I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Thanks for the link, Atrios.
By the way, Cockburn in The Nation this week (not on line) goes after Krugman hook, line, and sinker. Contrary to what one might think, I believe that Cockburn has done us all a great favor thereby.
All of us can now say to our right wing fellow species members, "See? Told ya! Krugman's no lefty. The Nation says so! He's a just moderate who's appalled at Bush's radicalism. Just proves how out there Bush really is!"
OT
The 9-11 Commission finally took the gloves off. Even the Bush-appointed Chair, Governor Kean, and the Republican-appointed Slade Gorton, are ready to take it to the White House.
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/2.../26KEAN.html?
hp
Read this at counterspin, it's great. When the Thugs "accuse" our presidential candiate (Howard Dean) of supporting gay rights, which they should, and do, support, they can say this:
"I don't think that at a time when our soldiers are fighting and dying in Iraq, when our mothers and fathers are afraid of losing their social security, when our children are being crushed with mountains of debt, that this is any time to be wasting out energy and effort to change our founding documents. I refuse to single out any group for special treatment, especially discrimination."
And all of America will be shamed into doing the right hing. Thanks to Rusty and Aimei.
I never liked Dick Cockburn anyway.
Oops, sorry, I just found out that Dick Cockburn's name is acutally Alex. I'm not sure why I thought he was a Dick. Must be senility.
"So few Richards, so many Dicks."
A bumpersticker I saw a long time ago.
Hey, this is the Krugman lecture I went to! I saw this one first hand! Krugman was a little freaked out because his plane had hit a bird.
This may be a little offtopic, but I'm wondering if anyone can explain to me how health insurance is different.
I already know that it is different, but nevertheless I'm looking for some clear explanation (for "dummies," as it were) of exactly how it is different.
TIA!
>I'm wondering if anyone can explain to me how health insurance is different.
Different from what?
Yes I know it's the most anticipated event of the year, but I'm too lazy. Tomorrow...
-Atrios 12:09 AM
We're running out of time..... I can't wait
Cockburn attacks anyone to the right of Kim Jong-Il, so I wouldn't take him seriously. So Krugman is a moderate liberal, so what? He's still the most important critic of the Bush administration, period. He's managed to expose this administration's fiscal irresponsibility, and is one of the few voices in the mainstream media to be openly critical of Bush. Those of us on the left should welcome support on our various issues from across the spectrum, not dismiss people for ideological impurity. Do we want Bush out of office, or do we want a Republican landslide so we can organize slightly larger protests?
Who cares what Cockburn thinks? He's an ass.
The Krugman show will be re-run Sunday night at 9:30 pm EST. Also, check out Joe Conason on Monday 1:00 am.
Sorry about the buggered formatting ...
The url of the Cockburn article on krugman is here:
http://www.thenation.com/docprem...1110&
s=cockburn
Does anyone have a password into the Nation Site or maybe able to post the text of the Cockburn article on krugman on this board, cuz I can't get to it?
weldon berger - makes me wonder if Poppy and Barb are speaking to each other.
OT - Black Hawk Down!!
Krugman not on board.
It wasn't hit by a bird.
I saw this the other night on CSpan. As a Krugman fan, I was duly impressed. He is the economic voice of reason in the Bushco deconstruction shitstorm we find ourselves in. I loved his non-endorsement endorsement of Dean for prez, saying the nominee has to be combative and call a spade a spade. He actually said that he had said enough to reveal his opinion on who was best to stop this economic suicide watch we are on. Perfect.
Just now on the Capital Gang, The Prince of Darkness defended General Boykin. Al Hunt and the Host of the program just about had apoplexy and in so many words told Novak that he was so full of shit that his eyes were brown.
Perhaps I will post it on Counterpunch
What did I name that Krugman article, again?
Excellent!! My link worked!!
Maybe this is the real Cockburn:
http://vasectomyreversals.com/about.html
"Krugman's World" is the title of the Cockburn piece on Krugman
OT, but how'd you do with the Breeder's Cup?
Cockburn is a hateful and embittered old lefty who stopped caring about trying to defeat right-wing evil decades ago. He should retire.
#$% *&^#$!@#$%^*&ing #@$%^&*!!!!
Realmedia? Why must they use Realmedia?
PS: Cockburn is a dick.
Breeder's Cup - I got to see the very end where the the guy was given the horse trophy. In the background was some guy on a cell phone waving and blowing kisses. I sure found that amusing
By the way, does anyone know why Atrios often calls Krugman "The Krenis?" And Bill Clinton the "Clenis"? Etc.?
BAtrios is busted!
Ah ah...it's because, well??? Because of Krugman's large cranium, yeah, his brain, you know! And because of Clinton's...well you know what Clinton is famous for???
Well I don't know really, why does Atrios call him the Krenis???
Please tell us Atrios.
Clinton Penis == Clenis
and the Clenis gets blamed for all things as we know. Since Krugman has apprently replaced Clinton as public enemy #1, therefore
Krugman == Krenis
Well I don't know really, why does Atrios call him the Krenis???
I would guess because he's the new right-wing target, much as Clinton was in the day.
'Xcept to my knowledge Krugman never had an illicit blow job...
I always assumed some bimbo like Michelle Malkin invented the term [the Clenis] and Atrios adopted it as a way of ridiculing it. But maybe it is more self-ridicule --- it's so hard to tell these days.
Is "The Clenis" supposed to sound like a redneck saying, "The Clin'ons?" Because it doesn't.
Krugman is also a free trader!!! Can this guy get any better?
White House withholding Sept 11 files -- report
Insurance II
Yes I know it's the most anticipated event of the year, but I'm too lazy. Tomorrow...
-Atrios 12:09 AM
Should I expect this in the next hour?
soon, soon...
Atrios, Insurance II is not a weekend post.
Have fun.
OT: "NATO needs to add three more members: Iraq, Egypt and Israel. Yes, you read that right."
Who else but Friedman yelling 'look at me, look at me, damn it, would you look at me.'
Man has that guy lost it.
Oops, I forgot, he never had it.
Well, at least we know that Insurance II is going to be well polished, and probably quite brilliant, given the time and effort that's gone into it.
Krugman + menis = Krenis...?
That is my little naive, idealist, spell-check-less take on the nick name...After all; Krugman certainly is a major menace to the Bush campaign! Heaven forbid Krugman’s totally accurate take on the State of the Union become heard and embraced by mainstream USA. We might actually wake up, begin to rationally re-think our choices, and start working towards getting our country on track! 
The changing of a name to closer resemble "penis" is largely a mockery of the massive campaign launched against former President Clinton, and henceforth all the ridiculous things that Clinton and his penis (or should that be capitalized, it is treated like a person...) have been blamed for.
So, the "Clenis" is a combination of Clinton and Clinton's penis, and is responsible for all the evils in the world. The Clenis leaked the CIA op's name. The Clenis hid Saddam's nukes, the Clenis is the one destroying the economy.
Etc.
I'd presume changing it to fit a new name indicates that said individual is being unfairly accused of forcing God to kill puppies.
I think the Clenis(c) is derived directly from that vast Southern oral and literary tradition of Brer Rabbit stories. Every time the Clenis seems vulnerable, it makes its escape into the briar patch, and beyond the clutches of brer wolf.
Speaking of Krugman, the cover of the UK edition of his book is pretty intense (click on the homepage link for the picture from amazon). Almost enough to put me off from buying the book, to tell the truth.
His plane hit a bird?
You don't s'pose. . .
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Being laid up, overly opinionated, recuperating and definitely one who likes to major in minors...I decided to look at the UK edition’s cover of Krugman’s new book...and boy is it sensationalized to the max! It definitely has a certain tabloid sci-fi flair to it.
I also don't think much of the US cover. I do believe in keeping it very clean and simple, but this cover looks like the work of...”OH SHIT! I forgot to work on the ho-hum Krugman cover and my deadline is NOW! Lemme' whip one up real quick!” (RUSH JOB to the rescue!)
Why didn't they choose a font like Atlantic Inline, Bank Gothic, Combo of Marriage or American Text for "The Great Unraveling?"...It doesn't look like much time, thought, or effort went into the cover at all. A book like Krugman’s should say,”this is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth” BEFORE you even open the cover! Yes, certain fonts and colors imply certain core beliefs, evoke certain emotions, and can make a huge difference in marketing. Luckily, Krugman book is a winner in spite of the US and UK covers, and not because of them. Personally, I think a brown paper bag cover might be more effective, wittier and definitely news worthy. Afterall, we may get in trouble reading a book like Krugman’s in public!
What about Conason's recent appearance on Book TV, Did they archive that? I can'rt find it.
I thought I heard the dude on C-span say he was 'working on' having MM on with Stupid White Men. Did that ever happen or are they waiting for Moore's 75th #1 seller before they give him a slot?
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