the YES references continue...
steve |
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10.31.03 - 10:27 pm | #
Good grief.
Someone needs to put a leash on the Rice bitch.
Gary Frazier |
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10.31.03 - 10:29 pm | #
This administration is a disgrace. Anyone outside their immediate circle gets treated like shit at every opportunity. Why does anybody support this witless crew? Because they want "in?"
Alan |
10.31.03 - 10:30 pm | #
Ot but relates to the merc topic.
Just stumbled across this. http://
www.democraticunderground...topic_id=194044
And note that David Kay is a former senior VP of SAIC and a major shareholder still. http://www.apfn.net/
messageboard...ion.cgi.88.html
The company that got the contract to run the Iraqi television is SAIC -- the same company that was recently hired to whitewash the Diebold BBV election software scandal.
"The fledgling IMN has taken over Hussein's 18 television stations, his government radio stations and al-Sabah, the 60,000-circulation national newspaper now published on what was the same site of the newspaper founded by Hussein's son Uday. Since this spring, management has been contracted out to Science Applications International Corp. (SAIC), a San Diego-based defense contractor with a $40 million-plus budget and no experience in media development. SAIC, in turn, has been overseen in Washington by the Defense Department's office that specializes in psychological warfare operations, or psyops." http://www.washingtonpost.com/
ac...anguage=printer http://www.onlinejournal.com/
Spe...2003landes.html
SAIC is a behemoth military defense contractor with a shadowy, if not tarnished, reputation, while former SAIC executives also have ties to VoteHere. Why is that important? VoteHere is a growing company, which aspires to provide cryptography and computer software security for the electronic election industry.
Former president, chief operating officer, and vice chairman of SAIC is Admiral Bill Owens, who is now Chairman of the Board for VoteHere. Owens also served as Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and was a senior military assistant to Secretaries of Defense Frank Carlucci and Dick Cheney. Carlucci's company is Carlyle Group, while Vice President Dick Cheney's former employer is Halliburton.
Another former SAIC board member, also on the board of VoteHere, is ex-CIA Director Robert Gates, a veteran of the Iran-Contra scandal.
VoteHere is already benefiting from the Diebold debacle, as it will be partnering with Sequoia Voting Systems, "to provide a new level of electronic ballot verification to customers of the AVC Edge touch screen voting system," according to the VoteHere website.
So the company that gets one of the big no bid contracts in Iraq and fails to deliver is also the same company all tied up with the BFE and their take over of our voting systems in the US. Mmm, somehow I doubt if anyone in the US media will ever notice the connection.
Anyone smell conspiracy?
In case anyone didn't read the MERC thread DynaCorp is either owned or owns SAIC. DynaCorp are the mercs preferred in Iraq.
Anonymous |
10.31.03 - 10:31 pm | #
Bitch slapping Congressmen? So, they must have asked for it.
Dick Durata |
10.31.03 - 10:36 pm | #
This shouldn't have been done, of course, but it's funny that Weldon is the leader of the delegation. He's a particularly repulsive type of wingnut. He fancies himself some sort of foreign policy "expert." Whenever he's on TV, he proudly announces the fact that he "speaks Russian." If knowing the Russian words for "booze" and "cooze" makes you an expert in that language, then I guess he qualifies.
TownDrunk |
10.31.03 - 10:53 pm | #
Oh damn! We noticed the Yes thing in the heds too. We thought we'd be the first to comment about it.
Oh well ... perhaps you could use "Does It Really Happen?" for something about the Bushies and Iraq, or others ... “Close to the Edge,” maybe?
SullyWatch |
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10.31.03 - 11:11 pm | #
I see a somewhat sinister pattern here. Administration is gaslighting negotiations with North Korea. For a year it was "talk but not negotiate". Now it is "written assurance but not a non-aggression treaty" but if you know Busheviks, this is a typical Foggy Bottom products that Bolton, Rice and Cheney will undermine.
These guys want NO exchanges with North Korea and no daylight on the negotiations that are and aren't. A Chinese diplomats was quoted as saying to American collegue: "I do not care what your policy is, just have one".
On top of everything, if Kim Il-Jong has a position, he is fully capable to explain it to Congress delegations, and if American non-negotiators made no sense so far, he can explain that too. (The guy is described as smart, if sinister).
By the way: Kim Il-Jong allegedly is fluent in Russian, his only foreign language. Knowing Russian CAN help. Keep this guy Weldon away, please! No one saner than DeLay should be allowed to investigate!
Piotr Berman |
10.31.03 - 11:22 pm | #
I guess the government takeover is complete. we now have an emperor.
samlex |
10.31.03 - 11:22 pm | #
can someone explain why the executive branch has the authority to tell congressmen where they can or can't go? Or is it just that they aren't providing an airplane?
praktike |
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10.31.03 - 11:45 pm | #
also, they're beginning to act like a cornered animal...
praktike |
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10.31.03 - 11:46 pm | #
Condi might yet get the "mushroom cloud" she was warning us about. But it will be because of her and chimpy's incompetence.
chimp hater |
10.31.03 - 11:49 pm | #
"Condi! Condi!
Get your narrow ass over here and unstick some of this shit you got on my face."
chris c |
10.31.03 - 11:56 pm | #
i don't think it's a good idea for them to go there. look at the way kim used albright's visit.
Anonymous |
11.01.03 - 12:37 am | #
See, what cha got here is your run-of-the-mill power hungry bozos running the country. They make arbitrary decisions just because they can.
Anonymous |
11.01.03 - 12:41 am | #
Help. The country has morphed into the Soviet Union. Or worse?
Jay R. |
11.01.03 - 1:20 am | #
The Bush administration has imploded. The wafer thin buffer its propaganda has relied upon to decieve America, heretofore with galling impunity, is in the process of shattering.
They have managed to offend their most vital (and thickest skinned) Mom and Pop supporters.
Those who absolutely believed that a military asssault on a sovereign country was justified, for reason of imminent threat, have now been disabused of that notion.
And Mom and Pop, albeit quietly, are really pissed off about it.
Sons, daughters, mothers, fathers, have been put in harms way on behalf of that lie. They die to serve that lie, on a near daily basis. Some amongst them return to our shores, shattered but unpublicized, because it would not serve the furtherance of that lie.
Those people that once trusted and supported George Bush now understand they were lied to. And they resent it like hell.
So the craven mutts of congress begin to yip.
Sovereign Eye |
11.01.03 - 1:28 am | #
welcome to the USsr.
pansypoo |
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11.01.03 - 1:43 am | #
man. totally thought i was the only one who was going to get the yes references.
k |
11.01.03 - 3:25 am | #
Well... why don't the dolts from the House just book some flight reservations and get their sorry asses where they want to go.
Then they thumb their noses at the Boy King and his junta.
What is so hard about going there on their own??
JimK |
11.01.03 - 4:03 am | #
They could easily go visit the place, North Korea's official website has all the info http://www.korea-dpr.com/travel.htm
Anonymous |
11.01.03 - 5:55 am | #
theres lots of people that still believe chimp, ie the wmds were moved to syrian or iran or wherever. it doesnt seem to matter when the lies are exposed, the repubs are extremely adept at manipulating a certain segment of the public, and i guess they figure they can just diebold the rest.
pretzelattack |
11.01.03 - 7:29 am | #
Wait...does this mean Iraq is an "active war zone" since the Pentagon refused to let Senate Democrats visit the country recently?
And notice how this North Korea trip got way more press coverage?
Hesiod |
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11.01.03 - 8:17 am | #
This shouldn't have been done, of course, but it's funny that Weldon is the leader of the delegation. He's a particularly repulsive type of wingnut. He fancies himself some sort of foreign policy "expert." Whenever he's on TV, he proudly announces the fact that he "speaks Russian." If knowing the Russian words for "booze" and "cooze" makes you an expert in that language, then I guess he qualifies.Back when I was a reporter, I interviewed an import-exporter guy who was doing a lot of work with the Russians. He told me he was "thrilled" to have the opportunity to speak with Weldon at a reception, but when he walked up and spoke to him in Russian, he got a blank stare.
As far as I could tell from my own research, Weldon took one semester of Russian when he went to West Chester State Teachers College (now W.C. University). I remember one year there was a really credible Democrat running against him, but the Philadelphia Inquirer endorsed Weldon again, mentioning that his ability to speak fluent Russian made him invaluable.
I called them and asked if anyone knew that for a fact. F*cking lazy media whores.
Susan from Philly |
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11.01.03 - 8:49 am | #
Comes a bit close to the edge. Though you and I obviously have some things in common. Not to be overly obvious, but I think it's your move.
Tim |
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11.01.03 - 9:17 am | #
One of the reasons why the delegation can't just book a flight is that you need special State Department permission to travel to North Korea (and a couple of other states). Indeed, looking at my now expired passport, I see a warning printed in the back that says my passport will be invalidated and confiscated if I travel to North Korea, Vietnam, or Cuba without proper State Department authorization.
Derelict |
11.01.03 - 9:28 am | #
Anyone outside their immediate circle gets treated like shit at every opportunity. - this was a 'Thug complaint against the Clenis™ too, but these guys are quantum leaps ahead on screwing supposed allies (not to mention us). I hope someone is writing thse down for future reference.
Also, Sid in Salon on more Condi/Bush inability to read. I thought Bush went to calludge.
BudMan |
11.01.03 - 10:20 am | #
Such Congressional visits, even involving hard-core cases like Weldon, might lead to a meeting of minds with North Korea. Bush and Rice would then be deprived of an enemy they are obviously saving for the future when we are disentanged from Iraq.
BobNJ |
11.01.03 - 10:22 am | #
Why write a letter to W with big words in it? It will take months for someone to explain it to him...
Anonymous |
11.01.03 - 7:04 pm | #