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GravatarI thought you had the Norcent DP-300??


Gravatarcan't disable the macrovision on mine -only the older ones let you do that.


GravatarJust buy a region-free DVD player. The Philips 726 is pretty awesome. You'll be able to watch all kinds of groovy French DVDs about the reasons they were right all along about the Iraq war.


GravatarI have a cyberhome that allows one to defeat macrovision and region coding.

Great for watching Japanese Miyazaki disks on a front projector using Descaler.


Gravatari dunno about on pcs but there are a few utils for mac that let you strip off region coding and macrovision (and furthermore convert to various and sundry mpeg4 based codecs)


Gravatarmy god, what the fuck are you all talking about? And why do I ask when I won't understand the answer anyway?

Who am I? Why am I here?

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GravatarYes, what are you talking about? I think I get region coding -- it's the same complaint that American plugs won't fit European sockets, yes? -- but I don't have the faintest idea what macrovision is.


GravatarYou can decrypt the DVDs with DVD Decrypter. That also removes the Macrovision and region codes. You then have to process the files and burn them to DVD-R or view the movie on the PC monitor. The result is a Macrovision/region-free copy of the original. While it is illegal to copy DVDs, as long as you're only making copies of your own movies for your own use you should be OK, although still technically in violation of the law. You can read about it here.


Gravataryeah, but if you need the subtitles there's a whole other layer of pain-in-the-assness..


GravatarMacrovision is lame but understandable. Region coding is, simply put, infuriating. Imagine not being able to buy a CD import? You might be $27.95 richer and one bad Depeche Mode B-side poorer.
All the same, I want the option of throwing away my $27.95. But I have a region-free player so my money is in jeopardy anyway.


GravatarAtrios, for the absolute BEST region-free DVD players, go to this site:

http://www.220-electronics.com/

I bought from them the JVC XV-500 for my home-theater system, and the International Sampo for the bedroom. These are the third generation of region-free DVD players I own since the format first came out. These are extraordinary. I strongly recommend either one of them.

Flawless conversion from/to PAL/NTSC and region decoding.


GravatarWell, we're living under the GOP, a.k.a. God of Pain, and their evil blood-sucking cheap-labor minions, the necrothuglicans. What do you expect?


GravatarScrew Macrovision - I had to rent the dvd version of all the VHS tapes I own to convert them to MPEG2/DVD (using my computer


GravatarI frequently travel to England (4-5 times a year) and my fiance who lives in the UK has figured out how to make his DVD player play all codes. So I usually bring DVDs of my own with me to watch with him, quite easily.

Instead of spending 800 on a code-free DVD player, how about figuring out how to make it code free itself?


GravatarWell, we're living under the GOP, a.k.a. God of Pain, and their evil blood-sucking cheap-labor minions, the necrothuglicans. What do you expect?

Fucked up copyright laws are not a GOP stronghold. See Hollings, Fritz. It's not like he's an anamoly.


GravatarI still don't have any idea what you're talking about.


GravatarI use DVD Decrypter, but how do you convert into mpgs? I think this is a question we libruls need to ask ourselves!


GravatarQue?


GravatarI'm just about to buy a Daewoo 5700 which
supposedly plays any dvd on any TV in any country. and has a macrovision off option. all for 100 bucks.


GravatarIf you're going the PC route, Google "DVD Shrink" and download. It'll let you make a "backup" copy of any DVD and will remove Macrovision, region coding, and encryption. It'll even preserve subtitles. And it's free - how cool is that?


Gravatar... I don't have the faintest idea what macrovision is.

Macrovision is a copy protection technology that mucks up the video sync information just enough that most newer TVs can still play the signal correctly, but if it's copied you loose enough that the copy is unplayable. I'm told the company not only has a patent on the technology, but also a patent on the most obvious technological means of defeating it. Some cable TV boxes and satellite boxes come with a Macrovision encoder that can be switched on to prevent users from taping pay per view and certain premium content.

Supposedly, we here in America have the right to make copies of this stuff for our own personal use, so long as we don't sell or trade any of it. So I for example, make copies of my favorite CDs to take with me in my car, so not to risk damage to the origionals. There are tools out there to defeat copy protection...it's mostly an annoyance for the technologically inclined. But beware the DMCA. At some point, the tools may become illegal to produce and to own...


GravatarApple's internal DVD drives used to be all-region. I guess this has changed?!


GravatarMike...

Even though we live in the GOP times (those bastards), Bill Clinton was the one who signed the Digital Millenium Copyright Act. Bill Clinton was the one who signed the Sonny Bono Copyright Extension Act. I hate Bill Clinton for it (but at least I had a job).

Fortunately, we now have the "broadcast flag" on HD-TV so we can see the end of the small time, locally produced crap that plays on local PBS channels.


GravatarThe Library of Congress recently held a rulemaking that might have excempted use of region-free DVD players by US residents from civil and criminal penalties under the DMCA.

Unfortunately, they denied the exemption (despite support from over 100 correspondents) because the requirement to purchase one DVD player, or at the minimum one DVD-ROM drive per "region", wasn't considered enough of a "significant adverse impact" to warrant an exemption.

The final decision is in the link above; feel free to write your representative and complain. Unfurtunately, the next rulemaking isn't until 2006.


GravatarThe Library of Congress recently held a rulemaking that might have excempted use of region-free DVD players by US residents from civil and criminal penalties under the DMCA.

Unfortunately, they denied the exemption (despite support from over 100 correspondents) because the requirement to purchase one DVD player, or at the minimum one DVD-ROM drive per "region", wasn't considered enough of a "significant adverse impact" to warrant an exemption.

The final decision is in the link above; feel free to write your representative and complain. Unfurtunately, the next rulemaking isn't until 2006.


Gravatarif you try to copy something with macrovision (without disabling it) it goes from dark to light to dark to light, sometimes breaking up at the extremes.


GravatarHey, I hated those evil bastards years ago. Evil bastards don't need a reason like macrovision and redion coding to be hated.

Hate 'em early, hate 'em often...


GravatarI have a Panasonic VCR that dates back to 1986. It doesn't recognize Macrovision. If I were to reverse-engineer the thing and sell VCRs based on its electronics, I'd be violating the DCMA.


GravatarFor pc viewing of a dvd try ZoneSelector, works great for me.

Does anybody find it odd that the studios are going to worldwide release a film (Harry Potter?)? I mean, isn't the whole idea of region codes to protect the studio's revenue since films were not released worldwide?
All this trouble and mandated technology and the studios decide they really don't need it after all. How about a law saying the studios can't worldwide release films as long as the region coding laws are on the books?


Gravataryeah, but if you need the subtitles there's a whole other layer of pain-in-the-assness..
Atrios

Depends the Sima Color Corrector will strip macrovision. It runs about $150.
Just plug the video in to the Sima and video out to device run audio straight.
You can also adjust color with it.
Other than that just go region free.
https://www2.setssl.com/~hivizone.../ main_frame.htm
The Momitsu DVD-V880 will do 720p or 1080i, and pal to ntsc ntsc to pal.
Hidden menu options to remove macrovision and region coding. Even has DVI out.
If you are ripping it to computer go here
http://www.dvdrhelp.com/
Also has a list of players with region free hacks.


GravatarAtrios, you don't lose the subtitles at all. What you can lose, if you want, are the extras like director's comments, etc.


GravatarLet me recommend the Cyberhome DVD player too! It is easily hackable to Region Free, also easy to defeat macrovision, progressive scan,and a great value. Cyberhome has one on sale for $79.99 (I got this one at Best Buy last Christmas for about $50.00). It works like a champ -- in some ways this is a better player than my early version Toshiba player. The PAL to NTSC conversion looks great on my (plain vanilla) TV.


GravatarThe Sima is the correct tool for this job if you can't defeat it in hardware.


GravatarOne entirely legal yet affordable option is to buy two DVD-ROM drives for your computer. One can be used to play DVDs from region A while the other can play DVDs from region B.

I agree though that region-encoding is a greedy and undemocratic practice. Personally, I hacked my Philips player to be region-free.


GravatarYou can get region-free firmware for DVD-ROM drives at:
http://www.firmware-flash.com

The list of hackable DVD players at dvdrhelp is okay. I personally buy "Sampo" brand players, for which a vibrant hacking community exists at Area450:
http://www.area450.com/

As long as you aren't bashful about burning upgraded firmware to your player, I wouldn't buy a player from places that pre-burn them. They charge $100 premiums for something that costs $0.25 in materials and about 30 min. of time.


GravatarAs long as you aren't bashful about burning upgraded firmware to your player, I wouldn't buy a player from places that pre-burn them. They charge $100 premiums for something that costs $0.25 in materials and about 30 min. of time! rolex watch
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