I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Jello Biafra calls Newsweek "Newspeak." I think this cover flashback shows, if I may quote the Simpsons, that "it's funny because it's true."
Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose...
I kiss you!...but I am still unemployed, and getting a bit angry...send your cheques to...
To paraphrase what I've hear on the tube alot lately: "Kisses on the cheek are not a ploicy."
P.S. Veering OT, if the admin (such as it is) insists that the two helicopters lost today "crashed" rather than "were shot down by hostile fire", will anyone believe them? How could we challenge them on this, yet another, lie?
Ah the good old days when we were showered with kisses and roses!
Wonder why we never see the next frame, where they shoot the soldiers.
"policy", of course. Too tired to type....nighty-night, Atrios.
Cakewalk!
How could we challenge them on this, yet another, lie?
Hudson | 11.15.03 - 11:17 pm
We'd have to take up money and send somebody over there to investigate it for us. The press is not going to do it!
Damned liberal media is making our soldiers sissies!!! Look at that shameful picture!!!!!
Who knew winning the peace only entailed letting an imported Iraqi exile kiss a few soldiers during a spontaneously staged demonstration. Maybe the peace would have lasted if they'd thrown in some tongue.
Little known fact: the man kissing the tank drivers in the picture is actually Patrick Swayze. He took the role as "the happy kissing Iraqi guy" when financing for Roadhouse II fell through.
"I was back in Gulf War II. I got molested by Chalabi. You don't know what it was like! The pain..."
Funny it should say "How to Fix Your 401k" right over it, isn't it? Think they're trying to change the subject?
Two of the worst mags in a vast field of lousy mags. Evan and David, scum the both of them.
"if the admin (such as it is) insists that the two helicopters lost today "crashed" rather than "were shot down by hostile fire", will anyone believe them? How could we challenge them on this, yet another, lie?"
According to reports, they crashed when one of the choppers was attempting to evade a missile attack:
At least 17 US soldiers were killed and five seriously injured on Saturday when two US Black Hawk helicopters collided over northern Iraq as one was reportedly trying to evade an attacking missile, according to US military and Iraqi police sources.
"There are 17 now dead, five injured and one soldier is unaccounted for," a US Central Command official said.
The crash west of the city of Mosul came as the US-appointed Iraqi interim Governing Council announced elections would be held in Baghdad by the end of 2005.
An Iraqi police officer said he saw a Black Hawk helicopter intervening as assailants ambushed a US foot patrol in the area.
A missile was then fired at the chopper, which crashed into a second Black Hawk as it tried to dodge the missile, he said.
The Central Command official declined to comment on that report, saying, "The incident is still under investigation, and the results will be released as soon as they are available. We will not speculate on the cause of this crash".
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/
2...8917662020.html
Doesnt matter what the white house says
1) dead is dead
2) people dont really beleive the white house anymore. Thank you Jessica Lynch
Who's asking and who's telling?
That guy just likes kissing men in uniform. Not that there is anything wrong with that. He probably is not normally allowed to do that in Iraq. Good for him!
Hey wait, is he slipping a little tounge?
Wasn't snarling Dick Cheney on the cover of Newsweek recently? I bet Osama is kissing that picture right now.
Is that Lindsey Graham in the helmet? What's he doing in Iraq kissing men? He better be careful, he'll get Santorum all over him.
According to reports, they crashed when one of the choppers was attempting to evade a missile attack
Sounds possible if you add that it occurred at 6:30pm Iraq time, it was dark, and neither of them probably had their running lights on since it is my understanding that they are under blackout orders. Therefore it is likely they couldn't see each other. What a waste this all is! Has anybody heard from our hero who lives in the White House?
Imagine, one gay Iraqi guy was enough for the liberal media to convince the American public that the Iraqis loved the conquering Americans.
So what will the lessons of Iraq be? Toppling a statue is not the same as a fat lady singing?
lol
Queer Eye for the American GI.
Probably will be put in during sweeps on FOX.
It might be your hair, but it not Mahir. I've never even been in Iraq.
17 more corpses for the drunken fratboy to ignore.
Pictures of the dead should be shoved in that prick's face everywhere he goes from now until his defeat next November.
So you guys went over there and killed Sadam's sons. Built those fabulous schools, which you will decide what will be taught in them.
Is this not the same policy backed by one, Anne Coulter? "we should invade their countries, kill there leaders, and convert them to christianity"
Hey Anne, do you have a plan B?
OT, but here's the question at CNN.com:
Does Blanco's victory signal a turnaround in Democratic fortunes?
GO!
are those fake, cause that's the exact same iraqi kissing GIs in both pictures...or at least they're wearing the same shirt...
I still have those magazines and yet when I ask people if they can find something similiar with the magazine they can't see the utter propaganda of it. "Uh... guys kissing a soldier?"
Me: Oh come on its the SAME guy kissing two soldiers!
them: OH!
duh
reading that above its almost as if the insurgents created a helicopter trap, they attacked a patrol, expected a heliborn fast response unit, and had countermeasures with them accordingly, even if they collided, the net result was argueably better from the resistance perspective, it seems we have encountered another strella type system, that was broung and on site as a countermeasure, they really are going to school on us....
could it be one guy at one photo op? getting caught on camera kissing different soldiers at what may have been the same place and time doesn't automatically make it a staged fakery...
the pics were on the covers of the 4/21 issues of both mags.
As an administration based mostly around propaganda they sure don't put much money or effort on it do they?
gregonthe28th: maybe the guy was a serial kisser...
sally: if Ann Coulter sees these pictures, she gonna say we should also covert them to heterosexuality...
OT, but here's the question at CNN.com:
Does Blanco's victory signal a turnaround in Democratic fortunes?
GO!
vote No.
Sun-Tsu reminds us of the element of surprise.
Gay Iraqis for Bush
it occurs to me that this kissing may have been in the spirit of the "thumbs up" iraqi children gave wolfowitz or, maybe, the kiss Michael Corleone gave Fredo in Godfather Part II.
Those pics have 3 words written all over them:
Wag the Dog.
perhaps someone has said it previously, the kisser is chalabi's bodyguard.
you saw him in the crowd when the saddam statue was pulled down.
you saw him when chalabi returned to the country he never left.
American GI have big dick !
( just ask yur local humpmeat )
Y'all need to flash forward to Newsweek these days: This week's cover is ``How Dick Cheney Sold the War''; two weeks ago it was ``Bush's $87 Billion Mess.''
You may now return to your regular tunnel-visioned carping.
coyote:
could it be one guy at one photo op? getting caught on camera kissing different soldiers at what may have been the same place and time doesn't automatically make it a staged fakery...
Yes, it was one guy at one photo op. I believe these were taken at the toppling of the Saddam statue, which was a staged fakery, and was attended by formerly exiled Iraqis, not a spontaneous outpouring of oppressed Iraqi liberation and love for Americans.
church tongue or porno tongue?
You may now return to your regular tunnel-visioned carping.
And YOU may return to your regularly-scheduled bipolar flight from reality.
Todays in-flight movie, "Black Hawk Down"..
is THIS how I fix my 401(k)? Sheesh, if I'd only known back in 1992...
Hey, laugh all you want, but when I saw these posted on Eschaton back in March(?), I saved them to my hard drive and sent them out to all my email contacts. My father and father-in-law (both pushing 70 at this stage) were completely flabbergasted by this, and wanted to know what the Hell was going on. Both of them have remained suspicious of the current administration, even though one of them is a pretty straight-and-narrow-conservative (y'know, like they used to be in the old days), and they are both old enough (and smart enough) to see that this might be really similar to the deftly-crafted propaganda that they both saw first-hand, one in Germany, one in the USA waay back in the 1940s.
The spooky part is that both said that they thought that they would never see that kind of stuff again in their lifetime...
lest we forget how this was all a massive photo-op: http://
www.informationclearingho...article2842.htm
>Me: Oh come on its the SAME guy kissing two soldiers!
Are you sure it's even two different soldiers? They look like the same guy, with his helmet turned around and from a very different perspective, to me.
just keep an eye on Israel. once Israel is attacked, things will get interesting...til then keep watching how a dozen or so folks are killed every day in Iraq and elsewhere due to terrorism, and never mind the fact how a couple thousand folks around the world die from AIDS...every day. No seriously.
Bush will still win 2004 if nothing blows up in the US. American's don't care unless something happens in their back yard.
Damn shame we don't learn sooner.
The best thing about Marines is their high, tight ass. Good Lord. These guy, Chalabi's bodyguard or whatever, knows what I'm talking about. If "liberation" is all about tonguing two marines in one day, count me in baby. I'll bring lube that smells like roses, anything. MMmmmmm.
Shows how uptight Americans (even liberal ones?) are about male affection. Straight men in many Arabic countries even hold hands with their friends. I'm sure kisses on the cheek are not uncommon and perfectly asexual.
If you want to get the real skinny about the USA just tune into the BBC.
Am I the only one who thinks the first soldier is female?
Question; If something "blows up" in america before the election, will it help Bush (you need me now more than ever) or hurt him ( he did not protect us by draining our military strength and money for national security)?
Is this not the same policy backed by one, Anne Coulter? "we should invade their countries, kill there leaders, and convert them to christianity"
a smart lady. less than a year and we've already achieved two out of three of our objectives. war kicks ass!
"reading that above its almost as if the insurgents created a helicopter trap, they attacked a patrol, expected a heliborn fast response unit, and had countermeasures with them accordingly."
It's also interesting that although both choppers crashed in the heart of the city, not one civilian was even injured. It's as if the entire town was in on it, and knew to stay out of the flight path.
btw that guys is very probably an operative of someones secret service - he is clearly making sure that the photos come out well by using his hand to point the soldiers face at the camera, and making sure that he is out of the way for a clear shot.
Normal people would hug people with both arms, spoiling the shot for the cameraman....
Straight men in many Arabic countries even hold hands with their friends.
They also make their women wear veils and stone their sisters to death if they get raped.
Captain James T. Mahir.
http://www.angelfire.com/fl/sapr.../
MAHIRTREK.html
A farrago
BBC radio reported this morning that witnesses saw one helicopter in flames before the collision. Other witnesses claim to have heard or seen ground fire before the crash.
In 1969 -- when British soldiers first started patrolling in Ulster -- relieved Catholics served the boys cups of tea in their front gardens. Things change.
A google search reveals the trooper on the Newsweek cover (the name 'Rega' is visible on his helmet) to be a PsyOps reservist from Pittsburgh, now safely home.
Rega's family had not heard from him since the start of the war and were overjoyed to learn from the photo that he was okay. "It was a relief to see how good he looked," Rega's mother said. Eschaton readers concur, Mrs. Rega, and so apparently did that no-good, two-timing Mister Stripèd Shirt.
Y'all need to flash forward to Newsweek these days: This week's cover is ``How Dick Cheney Sold the War''; two weeks ago it was ``Bush's $87 Billion Mess.''
You may now return to your regular tunnel-visioned carping.
Yeah, Newsweek is piling on... in obsequiously hedging tones (read inside)... NOW. They had ample opportunity to question the "mess" back when it mattered, and there were plenty of unanswered questions.
And by the way, they could do us all a favor and point out that it's at least a $170 billion mess, and likely to be in the $220 billion range by Q204.
Yeah, damn liberals, we're never satisfied. We'd love to see the OUTRAGE!!! these rags loved to wallow in back when presidential cum stains were the greatest menace to the Republic.
Carl - they have totally different helmets on (one has a communication device with a microphone, the other doesn't).
I remember hearing that all the guys kissing GIs in these photos were Kurds; the photos were all taken in the North where they still kinda/sorta like us.
And yeah, mideastern guys hold hands & kiss each other, and it's simply a show of affection. And, well, yeah, they still consider women to be chattel.
Look at them! Don't they both seem so happy! What Ahmed with the striped shirt may be murmuring into Pvt. Billy's ear (in Arabic of course, which nineteen year old Billy did not happen to learn in hi skool back in Texas) is: "Soon I'll drink your blood, infidel pig!"
Also, prostitutes don't really think their johns are sexy.
Yes, remember that the Pentagon puts Army psychwar operatives into American media outlets to propagandize us in war time.
I remember these two beauties well.
> Carl - they have totally different helmets on (one has a communication device with a
> microphone, the other doesn't).
Thanks, TR, I take your point. But I still think it's the same guy. Not that it matters.
The upper front teeth are completely different on the two Americans-- can't be the same guy....
Even it was the same soldier on both covers (I don't think it is, though), they're two completely different shots. Which means striped shirt guy "spontaneously" kissed soldier while he was facing camera and then again with his head thrown back. Either way, it's obviously staged. Any why doesn't the public know about this?
I don't have the details handy, but I remember reading somewhere that these photos were taken in two different cities.
The same guy was also apparently photographed at the site where the statue of Saddam was toppled by the U.S. forces -- another staged event.
Winston Smith is alive and well.
Hey, Copernicus:
Hell of an allegation there, that the government places PsyOps folk in news jobs at the networks and newspapers.
Explosive, if true.
Sadly, it is not.
The press might be lazy or complacent or compliant or even complicit, but Army PsyOps folk aren't the reason why.
Offer proof, or park the allegation in the Home for Old Nonsense. There's room next to all of those old Bush Admin lies (but don't use the space reserved for Shrub's lies-yet-untold.)
I wrote:
Straight men in many Arabic countries even hold hands with their friends.
gttim wrote:
They also make their women wear veils and stone their sisters to death if they get raped.
Yeah, I am not excusing other Arabic male behavior here. I am just saying let's lay off the queer jokes when in this case it's our problem, not theirs.
And to think it's making fun of someone by calling him queer/gay is also messed up.
> The upper front teeth are completely different on
> the two Americans-- can't be the same guy....
I don't agree. His upper right center tooth looks distinctly whiter than the other teeth in both photos; in both photos it looks like it eclipses the second right tooth. It looks crooked in Newsweek's picture and not in US News's, but I think that's the angle. Sorry to harp on this - it seems like a silly point and I'm not sure why I keep on it - but the more I look at the photos, the more convinced I am that they're the same person.
Points of similarity (non-dental):
o eye bags
o eyebrows
o two smudges below and outside right eye
o recessed mouth (or prominent cheeks, I guess)
o little bulge above nostril
For what it's worth. Does anyone have higher-resolution pictures?
The manufacture of consent.
Carl-
The Newsweek soldier has goggles on his helmet and no headphones, while the US News soldier has headphones and no goggles. It is cleary not the same soldier.
I wonder if US News's "How to Fix your 401k" was mutual funds?
This just pisses me off because I'm not allowed to just walk up to Marines and wipe my lips all over their stubbled face. Why do the Iraqis get more social freedom than I do?
Yeah, I am not excusing other Arabic male behavior here. I am just saying let's lay off the queer jokes when in this case it's our problem, not theirs.
Hey, I think it is fantastic that due to our military intervention in their nation, this guy can go an kiss soldiers! Man, I hope he can buy Village People CDs now also. Maybe some Dianna Ross. I just wish that woman had the freedom to walk down the street without being covered up.
Uhm, and if the guy is prostituting himself to the press buy going around kissing a bunch of soldiers, he opened himself up to ridicule.
Hello, liberators! I am Hassan, newly appointed kissboy for all of Iraq. I will be kissing the cheek of every soldier arriving here.
Please excuse the brown discoloration around my lips. I met Mr. Wolfowitz today, and he showed me a popular method of kissing among Republicans.
I'm not complaining, but this method does seem to be awfully unhygienic.
What's with the homophobia?
I noticed this at the time and emailed one of the mags about it but got no reply. It really made me laugh. Here's Dick Cheney's "Happy Iraqi." Unfortunately, there's only one of them in the whole darned country.
Clearly staged by Mr. Striped-Shirt, but at whose behest?
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