I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
what freaks me out, being a part of the male 18-25 demographic, just about to graduate from college, are the rumors of the draft boards being re-instated.
This, my friends, is why i am volunteering for the dean campaign, and for the first time and considering donating a substantial portion of my income to politics.
Canada is cool, but i'm an american, and i don't want this damn fool of a president making me leave the country i love.
only after the election
This then and now comparison debunks the Polarization Meme being pushed hard by the Networks, and the Cables, NPR included...
I'm confused (yet again), but doesn't the Now v. Then comparison show that Dubya was right about the military not being ready? I thought the Now-Then comparisons were supposed to show how W doesn't know what he's talking about? Could someone dumb it down a shade and explain this post to me?
are the rumors of the draft boards being re-instated.
These are not rumor, though "reinstated" is somewhat inaccurate.
According to the reports I read, the draft boards were never actually dissolved. Membership on the boards lasts for 20 years, and no new people have been added to them since 1983, so the excuse being offered by the Bush regime is that they're planning to keep the boards filled "just in case."
Salon (http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2003/11/03/
draft/)
Guardian (http://www.refuseandresist.org/war/art.php?
aid=1130)
"Beware the twelve division strategy for a ten division Army."
General Eric Shinseki, Army Chief of Staff.
Could someone dumb it down a shade and explain this post to me?
E | 12.06.03 - 4:08 pm | #
Point one: Chimpy and pals are hypocrits. They say one thing, do another.
Point two: Chimpy thought that having two divisions that were not ready for duty was a bad thing. Now he plans to have four divisions with zero readiness, as well as another four in Iraq and thus unable to contribute to any further action elsewhere. He was wrong in 2000, but critics who say that are armed forces are stretched dangerously thin now have a valid point.
One of the first flakes in a blizzard of lies. Had the press done its job, these mutilators of the truth would have been exposed. But Gore's apparel, and his "exaggerations," were the order of the day. Now the simpletons sit back, refusing to admit that they are partly responsible for the fix we find ourselves in.
For once, I don't see this is damning for Bushco (at least beyond the obvious squandering of military readiness). I'd expect that any unit rotating out of Afghanistan or Iraq is going to need a couple of months of rest and refit before being back up to both personnel and equipment strength.
Bush's ludicrous claim during the convention was one more indication of the pattern we've come to see characterizing his entire presidency:
Tell a lie. The lie gets a headline, which is what most people see and most people remember. The lie is then thoroughly debunked and proven demonstrably false, but this information is buried back on page C-8, just below the recipe for Aunt Hattie's Turd Sundae Surprise.
Thus, the lie becomes the truth in the minds of most people.
It points out once again that many of the campaign points trotted out and parotted constantly by Rebubs in the 2000 election to smear demos were not only incorrect then but things Repubs are guilty of now 10 fold...
Canada, Mexico, don’t even think about it, Voltron’s got our back.
Look on the brightside, everybody. At least they can't launch anymore unilateral wars for another 6 to 12 months.
are the rumors of the draft boards being re-instated. - Thanks for reminding me; I sent away for an application based on an earlier post somewhere. Here's what I received:
1) SSS Board Member Application
2) SSS Board Member Information Booklet.
I will be returning them today. I guess board members are then "appointed" by the Governor. THE BOARDS ARE ACTIVE.
doesn't the Now v. Then comparison show that Dubya was right about the military not being ready? - actually, at the time he stated it, that was a lie. As the article states, the readiness of each division can be measured with many specific metrics - and the divisions were ready at the time.
But now that we've overcommitted ourselves in Iraq, with no forseeable exit, w. has blown out the readiness and our ability to respond as the article stated to NK, China, etc. The "help is on the way" lie is now also exposed.
tell me again george why IWaq?
It's a good thing that we have a coalition of the willing that can start rotating their own troops in to help out. We'd be in real trouble if we were trying to go it alone, huh? Thank you Mongolia and Poland!
Pretty abominable, no?
Or to borrow from Bush referring to the military in debate no. 2 vs. Gore: "We need to build them up! We need to build them up, and bring them home!".
It doesn't really matter anyway, they'll all be home by fall of 2004, because no matter what has happened between now and then I have a feeling that we'll be declaring "mission accomplished."
As we've known all along (but the overpaid cable blatherers refused to notice) is that Bush spells his name with a dylexic "W" which is actually an "M" for mendacious. Bush has told so many lies, I wouldn't believe him if he told me he was himself. I suspect he was Rush Limbaugh in mask and an industrial-strength Playtex corset.
Last day of Ignore the Brownshirts Week - do your part!
Atrios, I know you can't read everyone's blog all the time...but here's my post on this on wednesday.
Great post on Kerry...thanks
Please, go see Kucincich's new ad..powerful
http://www.kucinich.us/dk.html
Arthur sez: "Bush has told so many lies, I wouldn't believe him if he told me he was himself."
Good one. I wouldn't either.
Has this man ever told the entire truth in his life? I really doubt it, 'cause I don't think he knows what it is. He lies when he thinks he needs to, he lies when there isn't any reason to - this administration is the most corrupt and dishonest one that has been in power in my life. And I bet I'd be safe in saying it is the most corrupt and dishonest administration ever.
Last day of Ignore the Brownshirts Week - do your part!
We didn't do so well. Maybe we should extend it another week, dave.
Now, if Moon decides to tell the NK's to act up, he has the leverage.
Does anyone think we are in as good a position with NK or with China and Taiwon, thanks to Chimpy's little adventure in Iraq?
He is throwing away the country. He is pissing on democracy. Does anyone think that we would approve of what they would elect if allowed in Iraq? That is why 66641 didn't go to Baghdad, they didn't want an religious freak running the country.
Are there ANY elements of the 'real' republicans left in their now Theocratic fascist party, any who will say enough is enough.
I said in Jan 2001 and I will say it again ,
We have a national security risk for a president. The man is a bloody world horror and ONLY the Moon trained wingnuts think different.
We are tubes.
noodles - actually, we have an international security risk for a president.
He's managed to make the whole world a much more dangerous place than it was before he and the rest of his demented crew got started.
Tena, you are right. Hey, I think I found a republican running for president. Seems he is tired of being lead around by the religious freaks and fascists Moon funded to take over his party also.
"I was a Bob Taft - Barry Goldwater Republican. But the Republican party drifted away from me and other principled conservatives. The Nixon, Reagan, Bush I, and Bush II administrations have discarded fiscal conservatism, they have trampled on the Constitution, they have shredded the Bill of Rights, they have engaged in foreign adventurism on behalf of global robber barons. It got so bad that in 2000 I ran as a member of the Reform Party. But now it's even worse. It is no longer acceptable to quietly allow the Republican Party to be captive to the cynical "neo-conservatives" pulling W's strings. Bob Taft was often called an isolationist. He wasn't. He stood for international law and for the United States being a respo
.. ooops, what's the word limit here now?
>Bob Taft was often called an isolationist. He wasn't. He stood for international law and for the United States being a responsible sovereign member of the family of nations. Would he have lied to the American people to whip up support for an aggressive, illegal, unconstitutional war in the Middle East? Of course not! Barry Goldwater was a real pilot. He knew and loved the men and women in the Armed Services. Would he have sent them into an Iraqi quagmire for oil company profits? Of course not! Would any of the pillars of the Republican Party have exchanged a two hundred billion dollar surplus for a five hundred billion dollar deficit? Of course not! Who among us can call mortgaging the futures of our children and grandchildren 'conservatism'?
Okay, off topic, but this ad from over at the Kucinich site is the most powerful anti-war, anti-Bush ad I've seen.
http://www.kucinich.us/dk.html
Check it out. Pass it on.
finishing...
Most importantly, conservatives always stood for the freedom and liberty of the American people, jealously guarding our rights under the Constitution. But now we have a Republican administration using their phony war on terrorism to spy on us, search our homes without a warrant, and lock us up without charge for months. Even those of us who aren't Muslim aren't safe. Merely voicing our disagreement with Cheney, Ashcroft, Rumsfeld, and the rest of the oil mafia can get us branded as potential terrorists and thrown into solitary confinement. It is simply no longer tolerable to have the party of Lincoln hijacked by these jackboot thugs masquerading as conservative Christians. Someone must step forward and offer an alternative. If no one else will, I guess I'll have to."
noodles - uh, what is the candidate's name? Did I miss it somehow?
you guys truly love it when our soldiers die dont you. buncha sick fucks. nothing separates you from the jihadis - not intention, not ideology. i can be patient - you'll get yours.
Oh, I see.
You can't make a point intelligently. You have to resort to (idle) threats and ad hominem attacks.
Pathetic and very amusing.
Yawn.
tell me again george why IWaq?
Short answer: Rumsfeld Visits Iraqi Northern Oil Fields.
Ok, it's still ignore the MBFs week, but I would really like to know where in Iraq pro-war and lovin' it is stationed -
Who would know less about military preparedness than Cheney? Ask Norman Schwartzkopf. Cheney, who hid from a war *he supported*, while my father, uncle, and four cousins were sent into combat for a "bright shining lie."
JD,
That was my own initial reaction.
The antiwar movement is well-positioned to exploit a "defense in depth" against the PNAC agenda. The sales job for Iraq was a hell of a lot harder than that for Afghanistan; and public opinion went south pretty fast (how many years were we into Vietnam before we had this level of public disaffection). Moms and Dads in the Red States, previously loyal Bush voters, are getting a lot of angry emails home from Iraq--the first war in history where this has happened. Right now, Rumsfeld and Cheney are scared shitless to even raise the possibility of a war against Syria or Iran; the political capital they would have to expend to get another such war would be far greater than what they gambled and lost in Iraq. The same pattern is likely to intensify with each new war. The strategy should be exacting the maximum political cost from the Bushies each time, and then immediately falling back to resume the war of attrition from the next line of d
but, I thought young killable Americans grew on trees, like oil...
What is it with Republicans and nonrenewable resources? We can only hope one thing-that some day W will look at his obscene mound, his great green barrow, of money and longingly sigh, "it was worth every drop of blood..."
TENA! pro-war and lovin' it is a certain LGF! A certain mobile ovum! The coward's no more in Iraq now than in Palestine when he exulted over the death of Rachel Corrie! And as far as us being happy about us dying (real logical), why is it we're the ones trying to bring them home?
kei & yuri - that is the one thing that never seems to get through to the monkey-warriors - that those of us who oppose the war really and truly want to save the lives of our military. For some reason which I cannot fathom, that seems to escape these people.
IT IS THE PEOPLE WITH THE YARD SIGNS SAYING: "SUPPORT THE TROOPS" WHO HAVE NO PROBLEM SEEING THEM KILLED - AND ALL FOR LIES.
And it is you and I who are devastated by the deaths and the destruction.
budman: how long was the turnaround for getting applications for the SSS board? I sent away too a while ago but I still haven't gotten anything 
. . . maybe they know i'm a democrat...grr
Just remember that no matter what was said/promised/threatened prior to 11 Sep 2001, IT JUST DOESN'T MATTER!
Campaign 00 - "I'm fiscally responsible"
Today - Deficits are OK because we are at WAR!
Campaign 00 - 2 divisions are "not ready for duty, sir" is BAD
Today - 4 divisions not ready for duty is OK, part of the WAR!
Campaign 00 - nation-building is BAD
Today - occupations in 2 different countries
Campaign 00 - America will be humble in foreign policy
Today - Watch out evildoers!
See - works for everything. Since 11 Sept, the administration cannot be blamed for ANYTHING......
BTW, thanks to all who made Ignore the Brownshirts Week such a success!
Only 4-1/2 hours to go (EST)...
IT IS THE PEOPLE WITH THE YARD SIGNS SAYING: "SUPPORT THE TROOPS" WHO HAVE NO PROBLEM SEEING THEM KILLED - AND ALL FOR LIES.
Funny how they're also not volunteering to go themselves... I'd sure like to see a list of all the moronic brownshirt blogging fucks who have signed up for a stint in the Marines, post-9/11...
dave - I happen to have an inside source (not) but here's the number of moronic brownshirt blogging fucks who have joined the marines since 9/11:
0
But you knew that.
Terry - it was at least a month. I kind of forgot about it, then heard a report that they weren't going to activiate the boards, then bingo.
ok, thanks budman.
>noodles - uh, what is the candidate's name? Did I miss it somehow?
sorry I scattered that post from to yonder...
Robert M. Bowman
http://www.rmbowman.com/Bowman20...2000/
index.html
Don't forget the woeful state of first responders in many of America's cities.
This is just as terrible as our military's combat readiness.
Tena nails it.
I was chatting with a neighbor yesterday. Her brother-in-law, a 39 year old reservist with 3 kids, is going to be sent to Iraq shortly after Xmas. He'll be gone a year and a half.
There's gonna be a draft if Chimpy gets re-selected, folks. A LOT of people are not going to re-up when the time comes. They're gonna need manpower one way or another.
Remind me again who "broke" the military?
Nov. 15, 2004: For the first time in 20 years, young American men will be subject to being drafted into the armed forces under an order from President George W. Bush.
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