I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
When you note that Nedra Pickler is missing you neglected to mention that she has been busy over the christmas season giving hummers to president unelectable and the rest of the GOP.
damn alex, you beat me to it!
Maybe she advanced to the next level and got a job with Fox or the Washington Times?
When Nedra Pickler stopped writing for the holidays she neglected to mention that she will, unfortunately, start writing again.
she's actually a ghost name for conservative writers when they want to act silly.
Apparently, she forgot to wear her anti-rapture helmet.
Atrios must be missing his favorite punching bag.
Notice how they carefully paraphrase everything as if it were a direct quote?
I'm surprised that the right isn't just quoting 'The.." from each comments then filling in the blanks..
"Presidential candidate Howard Dean said 'The...' today. Then ranted on about conspiracy theories that Bush knew."
Strange how everyone has forgotten Condi' and her 'Connect the dots..' comments that show how there was legitimate evidence to suggest the president knew more than what he is suggesting. Also strange how the actual arguments used to define our suspicions aren't even mentioned?
I hate america. I hate freedom. I want all of us to convert to satanism and eat our newborns. I want communism. I want everyone to sit around watching reality based shows. I want everyone to call each other 'comrad this or comrad that'. I want duck stepping police officers. I want everyone eating fatty foods. I want 125% tax rates for everyone. I want abortions for everyone. I want everybody to start preparing for 'gayness' cause I want you to. I want our flag to have a hammer and sycle on it.
And why not? We're all just antiamericans aren't we?
MYOB' (Whose already got his kids trained to beat up hippies)
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When Atrios said he sincerely hoped the Nedralator's absence from AP wasn't just a holiday break, he neglected to mention that she might have gone to a higher profile news outlet that (unlike Faux, the Moonie Times, etc.,) purports to be serious.
maybe she's decided to take a sabbatical and brush up on her journalism classes? we can only hope.
then again maybe she realised there are better Nedra Picklers out there after "Write Like Nedra Pickler Day"
Nedra, whose yewr daddy baby?
Nedra is/was a CIA operative (as are most slavish conservative journalists), although her cover has now been blown by the VLWC. She has been decommissioned with extreme prejudice. RIP Nedra.
When Steady Eddie noted that the Nedralator might have gone to a higher profile news outlet that purported to be serious, he neglected to mention that this would not be good news.
so if Nedra's really someone else (which seems true) I think someone should de-anagramize her name.
nedra= andre? etc.
sounds like a great job for someone else...
"she's actually a ghost name for conservative writers when they want to act silly."
Hey I wonder about this, does anybody know if the Pickler exists in 3 dimensional space in the same way that say Judith Miller does?
On the other hand, maybe I could have picked a better example.
"When Nedra Pickler stopped writing for the holidays she neglected to mention that she will, unfortunately, start writing again."
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I'd try...but I definitely cannot top that one!
From that same website:
"Only in a society suffering from severe crisis can a mass killer like Saddam be lauded as a hero. It takes a cosmic shock, sometimes, to force a culture into self-critical mode."
-Please tell me? Exactly how mirror-like this is to America as it currently stands under George W. Bush?!
"Only in a society suffering from severe crisis.."
-You mean like America after 9/11?
"..can a mass killer like Saddam be lauded as a hero?"
-You mean like George W. Bush, who never saw a person too young or too old, or too mentally handicapped that he wouldn't gleefully execute?
"It takes a cosmic shock, sometimes, to force a culture into self-critical mode."
-Or how about what is happening in America today post 9/11 where we chose not to be self-critical, but rather blame everyone else for our problems and start propping our deranged leaders like Bush/Cheney up as heroes?
http://
www.intellectualconservat...rticle2980.html
MYOB'
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I think it would be freaking awesome if the numerous emails people wrote to the AP got her canned, or more likely, put on a non-political beat. Look out for:
When Christopher the dolphin does three backflips, it clearly resembles the bending-over-backwards our administration is doing to help the American people.
NEDRA's Mission
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NEDRA promotes the professional status of researchers in the development community and provides educational, training, mentoring and networking opportunities to its members.
NEDRA's 2003 Conference was held on May 5-6, 2003, in Burlington, MA. Click above for full program. Watch our "Events" page for upcoming RINGs and workshops.
i dunno, maybe that's where she is.
or maybe here
The National Electric Drag Racing Association (NEDRA) exists to increase public awareness of electric vehicle (EV) performance and to encourage through competition, advances in electric vehicle technology. NEDRA achieves this by organizing and sanctioning safe, silent and exciting electric vehicle drag racing events.
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Nedra = Andre...3000? Of Outkast?
When Andre was concocting his brilliantly addictive hit "Hey Ya," he failed to realize that he had missed his deadline for 'her' latest piece of right-wing frippary. As a result, he was forced to 'shake it like a polaroid' for Dick Cheney. Not the most pleasant of duties in the Hannibal brigade.
keir dubois . . . anagramize her name? How about Andre LePrick?
One should follow the W goon squad example and use an "abundance of caution" when reading Nedra.
OT and for no other reason than to keep be busy.
A yearful of Bush lies and misdirections.
January: yellow cake
February: WMDs everywhere
March: Welcomed as liberators
April: precision weapons (shock and awe -- some fun).
May: mission accomplished
June: Everyone's getting tax cuts.
July: The whole world's going to join the already huge coalition.
August: WMD proof next month
September: the schools
October: The Justice Department is investigating, it's out of my hands.
November: look at the fake turkey not the crashed blackhawk.
December: Saddam (kill him or torture him?) could have had WMDs, which -- is just the same thing as actually bombing the World Trade Center.
stencil- we really need to have more months if you're going to limit it to one lie per month
where nedra at? preznit giv nedra turkee...nedra choke on turkee?
"...I want duck stepping police officers...MYOB"
I know you meant goose-stepping, MYOB, or did you? But duck stepping police officers is way funnier. Anything with ducks in it is hilarious, 'cept the duck pit--that is serious, and I know you'd want to reserve that as a very special place for Andre LePrick.
I see that the "Intellectual Conservative" out of Arizona makes the claim that the idea of reversing the consolidation of media and broadening ownership is a Dean plot to destroy independent media.
Thanks, Anonymous, now could you do some research on "Pickler"?
I remember having to "duck walk" as a punishment in jr High gym class. no fun. but it would slow down their pursuit of the criminal element
Suppose she’s any elation to the famous “doggy-style” defense attorney Nedra Ruiz?
relation, not elation
Her writings make me feel sick.
Elation is better.
Shaw Kenawe - damn, you beat me. I will have visions of duck-walking cops forever now. See them waddle down the sidewalk, handing out parking tickets?
intellectual conservative
I have a candidate for oxymoron of the new millenium. 
When Nedra Pickler is channeling Bill O'Reilley she fails to SHIT UP! JUST SHUT UP!!!!
Many rivals of Nedra Pickler see her absence as an opportunity to promote their own fictional, CIA-asset shadow puppets.
Ooops, those were both supposed to be SHUT, ewwww.
Actually, I would think Nedra's absence is a rather positive development. One thing we truly do not need is another rightist media whore. Sure, her (perhaps temporary) absence has but thinned their massive ranks by 1, but it's a start.
Now if only poor, whiny wittle baby-waby Howie would take an extended leave of absence, so we don't have to hear his whimperings about how Howard Dean never, ever asks me any questions, whimper whimper, sigh sigh.
Andre LePrick should just shit up with elation.
OT, but I think this is amazing:
From Adam Yoshida...
"Apparently Homeland Security efforts managed to foil a 9-11 style attack on Las Vegas- as the Washington Post is set to report tommorow (via Matt Drudge).
Damn."
This guy just keeps getting nuttier.
Las Vegas....is nothing sacred with these bastards?
If Yoshida ever should make the rest of us so unfortunate as to make it down to the US, he will undoubtedly get a visit from Bill "Aesop's fable of the three cherries" Bennett about that post.
No, that was a BAND named AlQaida; they were supposed to be at The Palms Christmas eve.
OT, but I think this is amazing:
From Adam Yoshida...
"Apparently Homeland Security efforts managed to foil a 9-11 style attack on Las Vegas- as the Washington Post is set to report tommorow (via Matt Drudge).
Damn."
This guy just keeps getting nuttier.
Bolo
WTF does that chickenshit canadian mean by "Damn."??? The reasonable explanation does not seem to fit in this context.
Helpppp meeeeeee....I am hopelessly addicted to these comments pages and I can't stop reading. I need a liiiiffffeeeeeee.....
speaking of strange female humans, has any heard from/about ariana huffington lately? She dropped out of sight, too!
Nedra Pickler is Karl Rove. The pseudonym is his homage to the only girl who ever had sex with him.
Andre LePrick!
I like it! I like it!
When Atrios expressed his desire to Nedra Pickler to join the ranks of the unemployed, he neglected to mentioned that there is some one who lives on Pennsylvania Avenue in Washington DC that should join her.
Dean wants to break up the same media that misled 70% of the American public before the war that Iraq had something to do with 911? What's wrong with that? Break it up into a million pieces.
Nemo - Amen, and then stab each one of those pieces numerous times until they all stop wiggling.
This election may be the first one NOT dominated by the mainstream media. The Deaneacs are proving that maybe you don't need no stinkin' mainstream media!
(can you prove a "maybe"?)
cap'n mike - I said this yesterday in the thread on the Dean comment about OSL. The media is not going to be any help whatsoever to the Dean campaign. We are going to have to get the man elected on our own.
Arianna is back and looking "refreshed" (which means - a little work done - but better than the Gropinator's). She was on Capital Report last night. Thank goodness - and a book in january i hear.
Tena; just HOW clueless will the "pundocracy" get in their efforts, though. They're getting pretty shrill already, what with more people blogging than watching any of the netnews feeds.
"Increasingly irrelevant" has a nice ring to it.
"SHIT UP! SHIT UP! SHIT UP!"--Bill O'Lielly
These unintentional typos are Freuding me out! Me & Freud? No elation. Now duck step outta here!
cap'n mike - it's anyone's guess just how outrageous they will get before it's all said and done.
I think it would be great if the pundits all ended up in an eternal roundtable discussion with absolutely no one paying any attention whatsoever.
Oh, NO! No more extreme right wing propaganda machine. What a terrible thing!
Maybe AP has not appreciated the implications of ".. an intellecually honest AP" writer cited in the first link.
I wanna see cops duck walk like Chuck Berry used to. That would be awesome. We'd make 'em carry Gibsons instead of guns, and to qualify to join the police force, you'd have to be able to at least play that opening lick to "Johnny B. Goode". Or maybe we could make 'em "camel walk" like Ronnie Hawkins used to do. And instead of "freeze", they'd have to holler "heeeeey, Bo Diddley".
That would be awesome.
"These unintentional typos are Freuding me out! Me & Freud? No elation. Now duck step outta here!"
It will be interesting to see if Karl Rove will be duck-marched out of the White House.
"I wanna see cops duck walk like Chuck Berry used to.--Backslider"
Not to be picky, but Chuck Berry did the chicken walk. He kinda scootched down with his guitar and skeedadled, with knees bent, across the stage, while thrusting his head back and forth.
"But he could play his guitar just like a ringing bell. Go, go!"
Damn. She's back.
While Dean chastized Bush for tax credits, he neglected to mention all the tax credits he himself gave out as Governor of Vermont.
Very Nedra
You spoke waaaaay too soon.
She heard her name and perked right up.
Now you need to do some ritual to quiet her evil spirit.
Shaw,
That's an accurate description of Chuck's walk, but it WAS called the "duck walk". He started doing it at a show in New York to hide the wrinkles in a rayon suit. It got an ovation and, boom, a rock & roll concept was born. And he was still doing it when I saw him last spring.
Although, to be fair, it always looked more like a pigeon than a duck to me.
And hey...Bill O'Riely is the conservative's Little Richard.
"Shut Up!"
Backslider needs a nap...
I cancelled my cable subscription about 2 years ago. I was sick of paying to be lied to. Then I cancelled my newspaper subscription after a terse 'letter to the editor' because Ann Coulter is syndicated in there. But I wanted to watch some local television including PBS so I re-subscribed to basic cable after a few months. The reception is much better than rabbit-ears. It's about $10 monthly. I get all my news from the Internet. Funny though, many cable channels like CNN, CNN2, The Food Network, and the National Geographic channel still come in great. Not FOX News, though. ha ha
LucianC - nono, maybe you missed what I was imagining. Let the rightwing propaganda machine spin away all on it's own. Imagine a room in space. It has a dais with chairs on it and the right wing pundits sit in those chairs through all eternity yammering away at each other. Noone else is listening!
In space, noone can hear you lie.
OT: I read James Carville's latest book on Wednesday. GO check it out; it was good.
In cyber-space, nobody can hear Nedra scream.
SHE'S BA-A-A-A-A-A-CK!!!!!!
Snow...I got the Carville book for Christmas!
I SWEAR ON MY LIFE EVERY DEM SHOULD READ IT!
It's truly this generation of Dems' CALL TO ARMS!
The books I've read so far this year:
1) Big Lies - Joe Conason
2) Lies...etc - Al Franken
3) Dude, Where's...? - Michael Moore
4) Thieves in High Places - Jim Hightower
5) Had Enough?! - James Carville
Lies was probably the funniest and most memorable...but Had Enough is truly the one that all Dems MUST READ!
I hope to GOD that every single Democratic Congressman and Howard Dean himself reads Carville's book! You almost want Carville himself to run for Pres (if only you understood his accent!)
Yes, she's back. Brand new story on Dean and taxes.
When Nedra doesn't write, the AP forgets to mention that she is suffering from Mad-Turkee Disease...
So who DOES Nedra work for?
Really.
BTW...I glanced at the new Zell Miller book today at my library...I read the cover flap and it goes on to explain that Miller is endorsing Bush and slamming all Democrats to help "reform" the Democratic Party?
Does this make sense to anyone? I'm not saying its outrageous, but does anyone here think Miller's condemnation of the Democratic Party from the inside is truly "helping" the party?
I'm just curious, because I don't think so he's helping us one bit, but many support Miller so I'm not sure if his "goal" is so far-fetched.
When Unka Karl's latest 'ho fingered the Evil Capitalist Dean as a hypocrite on tax breaks for corporations, she failed to mention that 2/3 of the approved credits had gone unclaimed because of the stiff anti-business provisions inserted into the law by the Evil Socialist Dean.
and what exactly does Zell Miller mean by "reforming" the Democratic Party?
does he mean "Repub"?
For fun do a google image search on nedra pickler and you get a link to a story she wrote about how the auto industry won't reach energy efficiency goals set by former pres Clinton. Anyway, it's just so Nedra. The article is from 2001 and it's the same. Oh, and I too am addicted to these comments. I need to get outside. It's still light here on the west coast.
Nedra Pickler is an actual, live person:
http://www.flintclub.com/about_us.htm
What's odd is that when I stumbled across this a month ago, there was a picture next to her bio.
The right is SCARED SHITLESS of Dean.
Faux has been running "Dean/Osama/Dean, Osama/Dean/Osama, Dean/God/Dean all afternoon. 'Three times in the last thirty minutes alone!
True terror is ugly to watch.
When Nedra Pickler notes Howard Dean's "hypocrisy", she neglects to admit that her ananym, Andre LePrick, sounds French.
Pickler doesn;t really understand how to do this correctly, does she?
I mean, Kit Seeyle and Ceci Connelly actually wrote unrtue stories about Al Gore that made him look BAD.
This story makes Dean look like a pro-Business Governor who pushed for and got a law giving tax breaks to businesses who EXPANDED in his state, thus creating more jobs.
EXACTLY the kind of image Karl Rove is dreading.
Here's the thing: Dean's crime is not that he's "too liberal," or "elitist" or "pessimistic." Blueblood ski-bum that he may be, he's positioned himself (or been positioned, or some weird combination of the two) as anti-establishment. And when you run against the establishment, you're not just running against George W. Bush, or the Republican Party. You're also running against the Democratic Party and the establishment media (NYT, Post, AP, networks, CNN, etc.). That's the best way to understand the reaction to Dean. And it's also the best way to understand why he probably won't win. The Establishment itself may well be divided about tax policy and foreign policy and whether George W. Bush is an idiot or a savant, but it remains very much undivided on one central question: the wisdom and right-to-rule of the Establishment. It's not exactly a "class" issue, it's more complicated than that, but it's a chasm that leaves Dean outside and Bush inside and Nedra Pickler well rewarded for elaborating on the differences.
Exactly Hesiod!
How long before Nedra places a correction in her next piece stating "I erroneously made Dean look pro-business and pro-jobs, I apologize for the mistake"
This is unrealted to nedra, but did I read correctly that Patriot II got stuck inside another bill and passed by both the senate and house and signed by scumbag?
bah, probably wishful thinking on Nedra's part...at least I hope so.
Ooooo scary! Dean rewarded corporations for bringing jobs into his state.
And that is just like what Bush is doing how?
When Nedra mentioned that Bush gave unneed tax breaks to his wealth friends she neglected to say that the only require for such a tax break was that the company first had to contribute to Bush's campaign fund and when Nedra mention that Dean gave tax breaks as governor, Nedra neglected to say it was exclusively for the "special interest" of job creation for the people of Vermont.
Heaven forbid than Gov. Dean entice the Canadian manufacturer, Husky Injection Moldings Ltd., to open a plant in northwestern Vermont. Dean should stop practicing the "cronyism" of enticing plastic injection Molding to setting-up mfg jobs for the people of Vermont.
Bush has a hard and fast rule-only companies with offices in the Cayman Islands are entitled to unneed tax cuts.
The Vermont Economic Progress Council, which Dean signed into law in 1998 to provide tax credits to businesses promising to expand, has approved more than $80 million in such credits, according to a report by the state auditor. Companies had claimed about $25 million of those credits by the end of the 2001 tax year.
Nedra neglected to say that unless Dean starts talking turkey with Hallibuton, the Bushies and Clinton Democrats are always going to consider him outsider.
How are you able to edit your posts with your nose so far up Dean's ass? Brown nosing is one thing, colon sniffing is another...
I wonder what Nedra's butt's for? I imagine quite a few Repervs could answer that question.
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"...but it WAS called the "duck walk. --Backslider"
Well, that's news to me. That'd be a great trivia question. Most people, I think, would guess it was "chicken," not "duck."
Anyhoo, it's a fowl subject. Badda Boom.
That was directed to the post above Town Drunk.
Which reminds me of this song.
Hey, Hesiod? Your URL in the comment thread says .cpm rather than .com.
I ended up putting Counterspin in my favorites list rather than worrying that this problem might crop up again. Sometimes we just have to work for what we want rather than waiting to have it fall into our laps, as Nedra knows. Fortunately, putting something in favorites is less ewwwwww-making than being a lickspittle journalist.
Renard Gris puts it very, very well. Dean is positioned (rightly or wrongly) as an "anti-establishment" candidate. So he's not going to get any kind of a break from the establishment media. Think they were horrible to Gore? This will be worse on their part.
But if Dean is able to keep building momentum, the possibility exists that they might come around - they'll want to bathe in that winnin' feeling ("You just want to be on the side that's winnin'." as Dylan would say). Where's the ratings, where's the money? They are whores after all.
Also ... Shaw, dude - don't ever argue with Backslider about the rock 'n' roll. As one who also lives for that shit, I can tell you - he's got it down!
O'Reilly as Little Richard - I love it! "Shut up!". Now if only Bully Bill could say it with Mr. Pennimen's mincing elan. That phrase has sass when the Georgia Peach puts it out there! If O'Relly weren't such a thug he might manage it, but as it is he couldn't pull it off even if he wore the mascara and pompadour.
The opening sentence of that article on ABC just made me laugh out loud. Does she even know how stupid she sounds?
It's time for everyone to start writing to the AP again. Let's kill the zombie for real this time. (and yes, I mean that metaphorically)
Can the race be won without the establishment media?
Al Qaeda is the new Communism, they're everywhere, faceless, defeatable yet not, so inhumanely evil they don't even need to be thought of as humans and no sacrifice is too great, you, your rights, your family, burn them all for your flag or suffer our wrath. Yes, the good old red-scare days are back, now all we need to do is be able to show that anyone can be Al Qaeda so that anti-administration white people can be painted with the same brush, we'll think of something, don't you worry, pro French or something not to worry, we'll get them.
The wingers got their beloved never-ending cold war back.
How are you able to edit your posts with your nose so far up Dean's ass?
At least she doesn't have her head up her own ass like you do.
"....Patriot II got stuck inside another bill and passed....
Bill in Seattle"
No preznit, real or imagined, with the possible exception of the absofuckinlutely unelectable Ralph "trust me" Nader would ever sign a Clean Bill Act.
"....Patriot II got stuck inside another bill and passed....
Bill in Seattle"
No preznit, real or imagined, with the possible exception of the absofuckinlutely unelectable Ralph "trust me" Nader would ever sign a Clean Bill Act.
Nedra's column complains that Vermont is losing revenue due to Dean's tax scheme - which she compares to Bush's tax scheme.
Hey, Nedra - doesn't that mean that if Dean's tax scheme sucked, then Bush's tax scheme must suck, too?
Whoever said she isn't real good at what she's doing got it right.
So he's not going to get any kind of a break from the establishment media.--MacJazz
No Democratic nominee is going to get a break from the establishment media unless they respond in force. The establishment media has painted Democrats as milquetoast since Jimmy Carter and the only Democrat to stand up to them did quite well. Remember him? Clinton?
There is a link to Newsweek on the MSNBC website that is rather positive about Dean, BTW. But I think if you are discounting Dean because he won't get a fair shake from the media, then you better discount all of the Democrats. At least Dean will stand up for himself and has a following that will fight for him and call them on their crap.
If you think that nominating a less controversial candidate will help, you haven't been paying attention. The media will have this alternative candidate looking just as controversial as Dean in no time. The difference is, most of the rest of them would be about as effective in standing his/her ground and fighting back as Gore was.
ZZzzzzzzzzzzzz
¡Que duermas bien, ojo del culo!
Well, I was OUTRAGED by her previous reports and wrote emails--but I have to say that I think this article is quite an improvement. Am I alone in this opinion? At least it's not contemptuous of Dean and the others, which was the prior subtext.
The first line is still a bit of a zinger, but at least she's refering to Dean as a "Democratic presidential contender" rather than the biased and inaccurate "anti-war candidate". That is a substantive improvement, and the rest of the article is fairly fact-based as well, to my eyes at least. Neutral enough for me, although I am chagrined that Bush's outrageous policies rarely recieve even this detailed an account, much less the criticism they deserve.
I hope this portends for a better future for her efforts, and still imagine that the root of the problem is the bias of editors as much as the reporters--who are often trying to fulfill the expectations of their employers. Who are the real zombies? I give her a pass on this one and even thank her for doing a better job than her previous efforts.
That said, I strongly expect her bias to resurface and will be watching her closely, as well as the rest of them. If they'd just do their damn jobs and quit softballing the bastards who actually hold office and make policy, there wouldn't be a problem.
... I think this article is quite an improvement. Am I alone in this opinion?
Umm, yes. She still sucks ass.
...if Dean is able to keep building momentum, the possibility exists that they might come around - they'll want to bathe in that winnin' feeling...
Absolutely gosh-darn right. They're already starting to line up in Congress, and as the losers start sounding more and more desperate and bitter (hi, John! Howzitgoin', Holy Joe!), their supporters will, at the very least, start flashing nice-nice at Trippi and Co.
It's gonna be a very short primary season, and by the end of March, "he not busy being born (will be) busy dying."
I was OUTRAGED by her previous reports and wrote emails--but I have to say that I think this article is quite an improvement.
When I originally read this, it had another byline at the top, and only the note that Unka Karl's 'ho "contributed." Now, no byline, just the note.
Does this mean she just re-wrote the lede - or did the originally-bylined writer completely rework the obviously-biased report Little Miss Brownshirt turned in?
I now pronounce Mark Russel is a dick.
It's possible the Pickle didn't have anything to do with the section of the story we've been ripping to shreds. The full Political Notebook article at the AP site has two items: the first is the Dean hatchet job, the second is an account of Dean and Clark picking up Congressional endorsements. The note at the bottom says "Associated Press writer Nedra Pickler in Washington contributed to this story." Since the Dean story is based in Vermont, and the endorsement item in Washington, it's possible Little Miss Brownshirt only worked on the second bit... or she was the rewrite person for the first bit, as well, and gave it her own special "spin."
dave - that first sentence is so purely Nedra that it could only have been written by her.
She still sucks ass.
Probably true.
Although the Associated Press contends that they have been publishing fact-checking stories for political campaigns in the past, a search of the Associated Press archives did not produce a single story about fact-checking Republican nominee Bush during the 2000 campaign.
I'm sorry folks, but there is not possibly anybody actually named Nedra Pickler.
I've spent the last summer pickling all kinds of things - cucumbers, peppers, onions, apples, corn, beans, you name it. But not Nedras. Never Nedras. That's just impossible.
You city folk'll believe anything.
http://www.sacurrent.com/site/ne...id=482778&
rfi=6
Someone was asking about Shrub signing Patriot2 under the cover of darkness?
that first sentence is so purely Nedra that it could only have been written by her.
I agree, but it was originally bylined to someone else - which makes me wonder if the Pickle wasn't asked to give it her own special "polish."
This formula is just amazing.
Find something critical that a Democrat said about Bush, as a way to launch your article.
Mention the criticism ONLY IN PASSING, WITH NO DETAILS (one or two sentences at most.)
IMMEDIATELY JUMP to a criticism about the Democrat which will then take up THE WHOLE OF THE ARTICLE.
That's "Fair and Balanced," right?
Perhaps Deaniacs should look at the silver lining in this: Nedra's piece has elicited a knee-jerk reaction in many of you, so much so that how many are actually willing to look into the actions of Dean's Vermont Economic Progress Council? It's not as if there wasn't controversy about the program while Dean was governor - he was attacked by Progressives and environmentalists because the Council lacked legislative oversite, despite handing out millions in tax breaks. Most of the criticism revolved around the Council doling out the vast majority of it's breaks to corporations in low-unemployment areas, despite the Council's purported mandate of economic development in high-unemployment areas. (see http://www.sover.net/~auc/vepc.htm for a Vermont Progressive criticism of the VEPC.)
These are valid issues of concern to many Progressive Democrats, and yet we'll now be scolded for buying Nedra's wares should we even breach the subject rationally. So Dean supporters should be thrilled. Once more, possibly valid criticism of Dean is quashed, all under the guise of not feeding the media trolls.
Yes, Nedra sucks. But there were a number of decent beat reporters from Vermont newspapers who covered this story long before 99% of you had even heard of the chief executive of Vermont. A simple Nexis search will show the extent of the controversy in Vermont.
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MB, Here's the issue I have. We keep hearing from people who are supporting other candidates how terrible Dean is. How he is unelectable and too angry and too this and that. But, outside of those supporting Clark, I've yet to hear one positive thing on this board about why we should be looking at the other candidates.
I've written several emails to the other candidates trying to get something more positive from them. I continue to get responses such as "as you have mentioned, we intent to keep the discussion above board and stay on message. Our goal is to defeat Bush." But the next time I see something in the media, it's more disingenuous criticism of Dean.
I can read and hear and I know that I haven't seen one criticism of out of the mouths of the other candidates about Dean that even begins to be honest. Why can't they just say in strong ways what they represent instead acting arrogant and patronizing toward their constinuency, patting us on our heads and telling us we are misguided. We are getting the same condescending crap from you.
I want a Democratic candidate who will stand up and fight. I'm tired of the milquetoast panderers we've had running in this party. Until I see Kerry or Gephardt or Edwards or any of the other candidates stand up as strongly as Dean, I'm supporting Dean. Give me reasons to support your candidate and I will. But calling me a "Deaniac" and acting like I'm a moron isn't the way to go about winning me over.
And if you think any of the candidates are going to be perfect, you are deluding yourself. I don't particularly like that Kerry, Lieberman, Gephardt and Edwards voted for the War. Or that they have let this president get away with half of the things he has done. They look weak to me and weak isn't going to win this election.
My governor is setting up tax free zones for businesses. I'm not thrilled about that either. But I'm not shooting myself in the head over it either.
So Dean supporters should be thrilled. Once more, possibly valid criticism of Dean is quashed, all under the guise of not feeding the media trolls.
Yesssss . . . BWAAAHAHAHA!!! It's beginning to work.
go . . . go . . . go . . .
i wonder how she feels about reagans feet?
Hansel, it's interesting that you immediately assume that every criticism of Dean arises only from some other candidate's "camp" of supporters. Can we not as citizens think and question for ourselves? I was critical of Dean (and other candidates) long before I endorsed any single candidate. I did not surrender my identity when I declared I liked one guy above the rest (and, btw, the reason I like this particular one is because he has the best record on protecting the disabled and tribal sovereignty - is that positive enough for you?)
I've done my homework, and not as oppo research for anyone but myself. While many may want us to fall lock step behind a single candidate before the first primary/caucus vote is even cast, I tend to still believe in the Democratic wing of the Democratic Party, and knowing the various candidate's policy positions and records does carry some import for me. I don't really go for merely drinking the kool-aid and blindly joining the crowd.
And to be honest, I'm tired of not asking enough of my candidates - I've worked for every Democratic nominee since Dukakis, as well as a handful of Senate and House candidates, and none of them were perfect. So while I'm not shooting myself in the head, I'm not taking it lying down. I'm running for the state house myself this November, so that I can finally demand the very best from my candidate. I won't do any less for others on the Democratic ticket.
Hansel, it's interesting that you immediately assume that every criticism of Dean arises only from some other candidate's "camp" of supporters. Can we not as citizens think and question for ourselves? I was critical of Dean (and other candidates) long before I endorsed any single candidate. I did not surrender my identity when I declared I liked one guy above the rest (and, btw, the reason I like this particular one is because he has the best record on protecting the disabled and tribal sovereignty - is that positive enough for you?)
I've done my homework, and not as oppo research for anyone but myself. While many may want us to fall lock step behind a single candidate before the first primary/caucus vote is even cast, I tend to still believe in the Democratic wing of the Democratic Party, and knowing the various candidate's policy positions and records does carry some import for me. I don't really go for merely drinking the kool-aid and blindly joining the crowd.
And to be honest, I'm tired of not asking enough of my candidates - I've worked for every Democratic nominee since Dukakis, as well as a handful of Senate and House candidates, and none of them were perfect. So while I'm not shooting myself in the head, I'm not taking it lying down. I'm running for the state house myself this November, so that I can finally demand the very best from my candidate. I won't do any less for others on the Democratic ticket.
Sorry about the double post - Haloscan froze on me...grumble
It's a small wonder how such a clearly amateurish writer as Nedra Pickler is still on with the AP. I've seen infinitely better, less biased writing in my college paper's op-ed section, and the writers are not even getting paid as much.
Hell, perhaps I should reconsider a career in journalism. Hey, if Nedra Pickler can do it...
Good for you MB. You've done your homework, as have I, and we have arrived at different conclusions.
Just because some of us have decided to support someone other than whomever you have chosen, doesn't mean we are lock stepping, drinking koolaide or following blinding or, in fact, asking you to. It just means this: "We have chosen a candidate other than the one you have."
You can be frustrated about that, but that doesn't justify the name calling. You should have known from the subject matter on this thread that there would be people in here supporting Dean. Did you come in here just to offend them?
I wish you the best of luck in run for state office. Seriously. You sound like you feel passionately about the issues and I'm sure you will do a good job in supporting your constituency. But please don't assume that all who've come to different conclusions about the candidates are followers. I follow no one and I'm quite capable of making up my own mind, and changing it if need be. I was actually supporting a different candidate up to a few weeks ago. I could still change my mind back, but that candidate needs to prove to me he deserves my vote. So far, he's failing in that regard. Alas.
so this is a dean blog now?
kwel.
It's not as if there wasn't controversy about the program while Dean was governor - he was attacked by Progressives and environmentalists because the Council lacked legislative oversite, despite handing out millions in tax breaks.
And there's the tightwire act a centrist/moderate candidate has to walk. Dean was assailed on the right and the left all during his tenure here--for this, the Left was pissed at him. And I voted for him every election, not least of which because he navigated these treacherous waters so well. Perfect politicians are just like perfect human beings: they don't exist.
so this is a dean blog now?
kwel
If you insist!
Hate to ask this again, but can someone pass along an email address for Nerd Pickles?
Thanks in advance.
Actually, I'm more concerned about where Maureen Dowd is ... she hasn't had a column in the NYT in weeks! Anybody know?
As far as Hydra Prickface is concerned, she's another example of a "journalist" who needs to look up the word "fact" in the dictionary; she obviously hasn't a clue as to what it means.
Beam me up, Mr. scott: she's actually a ghost name for conservative writers when they want to act silly.
Said a long time ago, way way upthread... but brilliant! That never occurred to me before now.
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Nedra Picler claims her identity was stolen but fails to mention her name is an anagram for plainer dreck.
Gay footage will stay in Lincoln Memorial video
Small victories are better than none at all.
Abenaki - since Dean is the current frontrunner, most of the outrageous Republican stories are going to be about him. He's simply the current bunny in the boiler, but if someone else wins the primaries, we're all of a sudden going to get twenty stories a week about how Wesley Clark once stiffed a waitress at an Olive Garden or he made a joke about watching Sex In The City during a speech which means he supports unmarried urban woman...and *white* ones, too!
(Or insert Democratic candidate of your choice - Richard Gephardt thinks we should burn American currency as national policy! John Kerry thinks the official religion of America should be the New England Patriots, because he worships a false god!)
Wendy--Dowd has been on "vacation". A rather loooong vacation it seems. I don't have any gossip on her though.
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Eerie. She's playing up the "but" opposition in the lead paragraph now.
Did ABC hire her because she's generating so much attention, and ask her to be more upfront about it?
Notice that these same critics she mentions in the lead paragraph clearly make a differentiation between Bush's tax cuts and Dean's tax cuts, in terms of impact, but Nedra fails to mention this, instead implying that the critics were saying that the two tax cuts "did much the same".
Nedra is one of the few journalists today who dare to buck the liberal, leftist tide of bias and tell teh truth.
"Nedra is one of the few journalists today who dare to buck the liberal, leftist tide of bias and tell teh truth."
Most of the journalists who dare to buck the liberal, leftist tide simply lie their asses off.
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