I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Being liberal.
Low ratings. And that's the only thing.
Who the hell is his syndicate/broadcaster? Somebody's giving this guy a paycheck (besides W's Legion of Doom)...WhoTF is it?!
He's nasty, disgusting, spreads (mental and spiritual) disease, and can't be destroyed...there's only one new slogan for him:
The Savage Weiner: America's Human Roach.
Didn't you know ALL Iranians are evil? Especially the children.
--at least that's what President Bush told me.
In a related development Dan Savage is still spreading santorum, which, as a substance, is about as pleasant as Mike Weiner's drivel.
...and Savage ain't the only roach. Some are fatter (Rush "To the pharmacist!" Limbaugh), dumber (George "What, me worry?" Bush), and more sickening (Adam "Coulter's Potential Boyfriend" Yoshida) than others.
OT
Is anybody tracking the stories written by JOHN SOLOMON ?
He seems to have it in for Dean big time.
http://tinyurl.com/2zbwh
The savage Wiener is also one of the "people" ranting about liberal hate speech.
As if Rove and Co. give us no legitimate policy complaints.
Jesse pulls the punch. Make it "Being reasonable."
By the way, Jesse is the best.
It's no worse than the party-line "the only good Palestinian is a dead Palestinian."
GOP - still the party of hate. They just change their object ot hatred every few years.
Howard wrote, Low ratings. And that's the only thing.
Not so clear. One Canadian guy claimed (on the USENET group sci.econ) that a very popular---and liberal---guy got axed, despite good ratings.
This is what passes for humor (and, to a lesser extent, the "antidote to PC speech") among the wingnuts. Savage/Weiner tells a gay caller that he "should only get AIDS and die" or advocates smallpox-laced blankets for Iranian earthquake victims; Rush tells an African-American caller to "take the bone out of your nose," etc. etc. ad nauseum, and the MBFs out there giggle and elbow each other in the ribs. Then they act surprised when anyone is offended, saying it was all "just a joke."
The joke is that these idiots get hired and listened to in the first place. Unfortunately, the joke isn't especially funny.
Why in God's name would you want Michael Savage kicked off talk radio?
Keep him on. Give Charles Johnson a nationally syndicated TV show, for God's sake. Give Glenn Reynolds a New York Times column.
You want this kind of hate out in the open, not skulking in the shadows.
You have no idea how many people I've turned to the left by sending them to Little Green Footballs.
You have no idea just how great it is to have somebody like Michael Savage out there in the open when you hear something like "well, didn't the Palestinians dance in the street on 9/11."
These people are the American echo of those Palestinians dancing in the street on 9/11.
Savage has called for systematically leveling entire towns in Iraq and said the US govt should arrest all liberals under the RICO act. He refers to Arabs as "bums in dirty night shirts." He is a major voice in the scarier brand of jingoism that has become more common and overt this year.
Astonishing smallness.
Not to be picky or anything, but where's the link? I know that talk shows don't necessarily post transcripts (for obvious reasons), but still.
GOP is the party of hate.
It remains to be seen if they Can be voted out of power.
They will attempt to smear and block any legitimate Democrat candidate. Dean the outsider will certainly get slimed. Clark likely will too- because they don't like friends of the Clinton family, either.
Any of the Senatorial sham candidates are likely their opponents of choice, since they will surrender the election in the end as the corporate masters dictate.
The GOP is the party of an economy that runs off of Endless War. They seek to set up a feudal American society. For example, take their Wecovery that only benefits the upper echelon of the mercantile class.
Savage may have been canned from MSNBC, but he has a bright future after the 2004 reSelection.
If we, the People, allow it.
It isn't "advocating genocide," so it's OT, but this reported attitude makes me think of the "banned" international flights of late. Reports are that other countries are questioning U.S. intelligence data. Seems one flight was banned because a small child on the flight manifest had the same last name as a suspected terrorist.
American Xenophobia, in other words, has become American Security Policy (it was ever thus). How is it that we are one whit safer today than on 9/10/01? The Keystone Kops are still in charge....
What Mr. Savage fails to mention is that most US foreign aid
goes to Israel and other countries that aren't poor, not to what he calls "turd-world" nations.
http://www.globalpolicy.org/soce...03/
0306help.htm
We already know that the Savage guy has been saying highly despicable things, this is even more so and beyond the pale, if it is verified, it is completely unacceptable not only he shouldn’t be on the air, but anyone consenting to appear on his despicable program or worse still sponsor it, should have their judgement equally questioned.
.....
Last night Savage was talking about Mars and how it's lifeless now, but water may have made it livable 16,000 years ago.
He joked that probably Liberals destroyed everything there, then went on to talk about how "unchecked Liberalism" destroyed the Soviet Union, Germany under the Nazis (they were "National Socialists," you know), and so on.
It's Liberalism that destroys everything, so we have to stop it if we want life to go on.
The new environmentalism. Up is down.
Is there anything that can get you kicked off talk radio?
One can only guess. Voicing similar sentiments about Israelis or non-Arab Africans would likely cause him some trouble.
Arab-Americans need to pull together and muster some clout if they want this shit to end.
I had a coworker who listened to Savage faithfully, and it got to be really weird. He would listen on his walkman, and we always knew when the show came on because he would get agitated and start muttering to himself. Thank God the local Cumulus station took him off, even they said that his comments were beyond the pale. Now that I no longer work there I am relieved, cause I bet that he can get the show in the evening during the wintertime from some distant locale.
That guy is really, really, whacked, and I can attest to the fact that the things he says are NOT taken as a joke, at least by many of his listeners.
MinnieB9:
Agreed, he was already canned from MSNBC for saying such things. There is the matter of verification, though.
Two girls kidnapped and raped in Lancaster, California: "Sluts and they got what they deserved."
"Do we have a government anymore? If we had a government, we'd blow [Mexicans as they cross the border] out of the desert with airplanes."
"You want hatred? You got the hatred!"
"Internment was right for the Japanese and it is right for today."
"In a sane society, they [the homeless] would be beaten up, thrown in a van, and thrown in a work camp."
"The White Race is being snuffed off the planet through immigration."
Non-white nations: the "turd-world cesspool."
"The gay and lesbian mafia wants our children."
"Anyone on welfare should lose the right to vote; they are parasites."
"The grand plan: to push homosexuality to cut down on the White Race."
The disabled: "Cripples."
"Most women happen to like ... being manipulated and controlled."
"You open the door to [Third World immigrants], and the next thing you know, they are defecat
"You open the door to [Third World immigrants], and the next thing you know, they are defecating on your country and breeding out of control."
"I'm beginning to think that women should be denied the vote. Their hormones rage; they are too emotional."
"[Whites] will be shoved aside so that the power can be taken by the Asians and the hispanics."
Mahatma Gandhi: a "diaper-wearing moron."
Nelson Mandela: "a terrorist."
"I'm not going to roll over to the pink swastika; I will not bow down to the pink swastika!" ("Pink Swastika" = gays.)
Ode to a Savage Gift
The icy night is beautiful
But my fingers cannot move
And my mother is dead
And the place where my mother sat is gone
I will trace the pattern of God's face in the sky
I will dream of my mother, and the peace of her perfect love
A man gives me a blanket against the cold
I huddle in the night
And then came the sores
And then I became a house that life abandoned
I am gone.
Love is so light--why do some not carry it everywhere?
***
These people are the American echo of those Palestinians dancing in the street on 9/11.
Um, not quite. Savage and his ilk are not living under an American-supported occupation. While the anger of those dancing Palestinians may be spread too thin and too wide, it's certainly justified.
Okay, Savage is now officially below Coulter on my "Most Dangerous People" list.
Although, you know, Coulter still ends up on national TV.
Or higher. The "More Dangerous" direction, at any rate.
Possibly but I wouldn't use this line on anybody sitting on the fence.
People like Savage are useful because they let you say "you think those Palestinians are the only ones who dance in the street at other peoples' suffering. Take a look at Michael Savage."
I suppose you could add "what's more, while it's entirely understandable that somebody living in a refugee camp might be angry, I can't say the same thing about a rich American in suburbia."
So I guess "understandable" is a better word than "justified."
p.s. Pedro the bus boy who got incinerated going to his shift at Windows of the World was hardly somebody who was oppressing the Palestinians.
" While the anger of those dancing Palestinians may be spread too thin and too wide, it's certainly justified."
Savage is a carnival geek.
Nothing more.
Somewhat OT, but while I was perusing the Savage Sucks website for some comments on this thread's topic (sadly, there were none), I came across this year-end wrap-up of the best and worst in the media. For a mainstream journalist, surprisingly close to the opinions expressed throughout the "blogosphere."
someone should abduct and torture savage. he's a later day father coughlin.
So I guess "understandable" is a better word than "justified."
Maybe from a public relations standpoint. However, 'justified' serves my purpose, since that's how I regard their anger.
(Hate to be the one to mention it, but those Palestinians dancing in the streets on 9/11 were file footage from days and weeks before.)
p.s. Pedro the bus boy who got incinerated going to his shift at Windows of the World was hardly somebody who was oppressing the Palestinians.
And that's precisely why I said "too wide and too thin."
I'm fully prepared to believe that snopes.com can be wrong but they say that it wasn't faked.
http://www.snopes.com/rumors/cnn.htm
Anyway, it doesn't matter. A lot of Americans believe that people in the Middle East celebrate the suffering of Americans and Israelis and the best way to counter this is to demonstrate that Americans do the same thing.
As for censoring Savage, it's a bit frightening but I don't think he's that much outside the pale. I live in a "blue state" and I know plenty of white, middle-class Americans who will come out with things like "who cares if people in Iraq get killed."
I think you want Savage out there in public so you can document the demographic he represents.
those Palestinians dancing in the streets on 9/11 were file footage from days and weeks before.
Actually, I don't believe that's true. My understanding is that it's Reuters footage shot on 9/11. It's an insignificant event regardless.
Huh. Had never read the Snopes article. My bad.
Huh. Had never read the Snopes article. My bad.
When one is surrounded by smoke and mirrors it's hard to keep track.
"The White Race is being snuffed off the planet through immigration."
The number one biggest, unspoken GOP rallying cry.
Savage has actually been fired (from one station) but here in the Bay Area he's on station KNEW with a vengeance, by which I mean that this station advertises his show HEAVILY; I'm constantly seeing advertisements encouraging me to watch his show (they haven't worked 
).
Can I mention the word that dare not speak it's name...capitalism?
"Snuffed of the planet"
By immigrants from Mars?
""The White Race is being snuffed off the planet through immigration."
Someone should send Savage an ebola laced blanket. What an asshole. I wish karma would hurry up and get him, preferably with something painful.
Iranians are so gay.
Assholes need love to.
There's nothing scarier than an out of control savage weiner.
Assholes need love too.
No, they don't. They have more than enough of self-love. What they really need is a big slap upside the head.
Find out who advertises on his talk radio show, then create a list of competitors... Ask people to boycott one group and support the other, then email the ones being boycotted and tell them why. (It hasn't exactly worked for Rush Limbaugh, but it's a start...)
Michael Savage-Weiner is a short stubby guy like Howard Dean. How about a cage match?
Savage is not a carnival freak.
what a fucking stupid thing to say, David.
Well, AM had Art Bell and his protege' (forgot the name). They regularly host people who just make shit up, not about politics, but science and reality. One guy I read about on the web page was going on about how AZT was just a scam by the pharmaceutical companies, that HIV didn't really exist, etc. Good idea, spew nonsense that could cost people thier lives.
ooops, my bad. I thought you meant Dan Savage. Sorry, David. NITPICKER above in the thread mentioned Dan Savage, sorry sorry. MICHAEL Savage is much worse than a circus freak. Sorry again.
My goodness. I wonder if Savage even knows where that little lovely suggestion comes from in America's colonial history -- probably not.
It's one of the low points of British Colonial Indian policy -- but wingnut Savage must think it was a good idea I guess.
Sigh.
Well, I was going to agree with you Deckard. After all, most circus freaks, while odd and frequently physically bizarre, are actually pretty nice people. I'd say to compare Savage to them is an insult. To the circus folk.
Don't buy "rock star" energy drink;
that's his family's company.
Atrios asks:
Is there anything that can get you kicked off talk radio?
Answer:
Yes: playing the Dixie Chicks.
Here’s a savage American.
What do y'all have against circus freaks?
Think globally, act locally. Don't bitch to his syndicate - complain to your local radio station, and if enough people do so - and make sure they tell local advertisers that they will not patronize their businesses, and encourage friends to stay away as well - then just maybe...
"What do y'all have against circus freaks?"
Absolutely nothing, provided their doing their job -- eating off the heads of live chickens.
"dean looks like a school teacher"
not really said, but the point that stupid references when they apply to progressives (read smart) stick and are parrotted in the SCLM. when they apply to a simpleton (read chimpy) you get the empathetic: "aww look at the little politician - he's so cute!"
"...women should be denied the vote. Their hormones rage; they are too emotional."
Yeah, and Savage is the living embodiment of calm, collected, rational thought.
Savage doesn't have the cojones to be a carnival geek.
I sort of thought that some of the Rethuglican Neo-Con Chickenshits would have been advocating a massive shock-and-awe attack on Iran now that they are down anyway. Show them the advantages of democracy and freedom and stuff like that.
The Palestinians cheering on 9-11 were in fact cheering, but the camerman threw sweets out to the crowd, mostly women and children, to stir things up and make a more dramatic photo.
The evil in that one simple selfish act to get a better picture has yet to run it's course. Thousands if not millions of Americans think that all Palestinians were celebrating, when in fact it was this one, semi-staged scene.
And no I don't have the references to prove this, but I do have my (sometimes faulty) memory.
"Savage doesn't have the cajones to be a carnival geek."
Or enough charm to be one, either.
and what about those terrorists near Dallas? I think we should invade their country, kill their leaders, and convert them all to ... to
oh shit
Is there anything that can get you kicked off talk radio?
Well, advice on the proper way to pot an FBI agent will do it. KPRC Houston shitcanned Liddy for that.
They also fired Roger Gray, a thoughtful moderate with the best ratings in his time slot (2-4 PM) for not being conservative enough.
And The Sports Babe, for something I forget. All the same station, same manager, Dan Patrick, same year. '96 or '97, somewhere in there.
So---is someone going to deliver a bunch of blankets to Savage's studio?
Find the address and I'll do it.
What do y'all have against circus freaks?
Why nothing, I was defending their honor. I find them to be quite cuddly and charming. Except for the guy with all the nails sticking out of him.
Is there anything you can say to get fired from radio in the U.S.? Try, capitalism is evil and see what happens.
No kind of demented, fascist, racist, genocidal swill is beyond the pale in the United States. Any kind of rational critique of the real state religon, mammonism, is to be crushed.
TORTURE MICHAEL SAVAGE
Take the poll on his website. You can do it, readers!
http://www.homestead.com/prosite...-prs/
index.html
The Palestinians cheering on 9-11 ...
Palestinians not cheering on 9-11 never get a mention.
The smallpox infested blankets in an old trick that you folks used on your "indians". There doesn't seem to be any limit to the depths to which Republicans will stoop to express their hatred of anything different from them. What a sad and pathetic lot.
Our national view of the Gulf War situation is more like this.
http://www.actsofvolition.com/
im...lf_war_song.mp3
And the guy lives in Larkspur, California, close to my grandmothers' house. One of the most liberal towns on the planet in Marin County, one of the most liberal places on earth. One would think if he believed all this right wing crapshit he'd live in a town managed by right-wingers. Sadly, no.
"Who the hell is his syndicate/broadcaster?"
Ever heard of Roy Masters? He is part owner of TRN (Talk Radio Network). The guy who sued the site 'Take Back The Media'. Masters is an EXTREMELY conservative religious leader. I was a student of his back in the 80's. His views are much more severe than Savage's. He used to publish a magazine called the 'Iconoclast' which later became 'New Dimensions' and had quite a bit of media coverage. 'World Net Daily' is published on property near Grants Pass Oregon which used to be Roy's religous retreat called Tall Timber Ranch. Joseph Farah and David Kupelian from WND are both long time disciples of Masters. The links go on and on. It scared the hell out of me when I started seeing people from WND appearing on mainstream news shows and being taken seriously. You have no idea how the super extreme far Right have now completely taken over the media.
When I talk with normal people who support W about this kind of stuff, their response is that SavageRushIngraham down on to OReillyHannityScarborugh are just showmen, just entertainers trying to say something provocative and make some money (not realizing what a nauseatingly irresponsible and dangerous way to make money it actually is). They tell me that I can't honestly believe that W is trying to implement the stuff these wackos advocate. They don't see any more reason to not vote Rep. because of these people than your average Dem. would vote Rep. because of LaRouche or, well... there really aren't any comparative voices on the left. See what I'm saying?
Is there anything that can get you kicked off talk radio?
Being shot in the head and badly decomposing.
OT... but I have to speak up about the Palestinians cheering on 9-11 ... I clearly remember the footage on TV being broadcasted right after the buildings fell I thinking to myself that it was strange that it was daytime over on that part of the world.
Wow... must proofread before posting. Here's a more articulate response: The Palestinians were cheering on 9-11 when it was nightime in Palestine, yet the footage was during the day.
Savage, (nee, Weiner), is perhaps the most vile piece of slimy pond shit that has ever existed. Many a time I have fantasized meeting him on the streets of San Francisco, and engaging him in some spirited, um ....conversation.
What galls me even more, is that this fascist, racist, evil scum, is a Jew! Given our history, and all the things that have happened to our people, how could any Jew advocate and stand for the hateful things he does? Goes to show, it takes all kinds. There must be a legal way to get him off the air, and if not, he should be yanked off anyway!
//And the guy lives in Larkspur, California//
Five miles from where I am sitting?
Bummer.
i would love to lock him up in a room with that 97 year old woman who survived. i bet she could tear him to pieces.
Some folks feel we should give hate media enough rope to hang themsleves. Leaving aside Christmas in Whoville, can anyone point to a historical example in which political hate was overcome by being recognized for what it was?
This currently trifling anti-semitism is a political engine in itself, to say nothing of the sunergies it promises for already powerful hate-fueled groups. I can give historical examples, but shouldn't have to. Enough rope, indeed.
Come on, no one could actually think that any of these people wants to live in the communities controlled by their listeners, where the police will haul you in for drunk driving and drug use.
It's okay to talk about it, but they don't want to live it.
Ever heard of Roy Masters? He is part owner of TRN (Talk Radio Network). The guy who sued the site 'Take Back The Media'. Masters is an EXTREMELY conservative religious leader.
You mean this Roy Masters? Holy crap. No wonder this dude can have Savage on...who's gonna say no to him? It'd be nice to see how much he contributes to C.R.A.P. (Commision to Re-Appoint the President).
His views are much more severe than Savage's.
That alone is too scary to fathom.
That's like combining the views of Coulter, Weiner, and Yoshida into one mega-winger.
(I hope an evil Frankenstein-type scientist didn't just read that...)
damn...forgot to close that link. Sorry...
Anyone who wants to try calling these tuna heads, here's TRN's contact info:
Talk Radio Network
P.O. Box 3755
Central Point, Oregon 97502
541-664-8827 phone
541-664-6250 fax
Website Questions:
Email: Webmaster@talkradionetwork.com
Affiliate Technical Inquiries:
Email: trneng@talkradionetwork.com
Luke, you weren't kidding about TRN being a hop, skip, and a jump away from WorldNetDaily:
WorldNetDaily.com
is published by
WorldNetDaily.com, Inc.
PO Box 1087
Grants Pass, OR
97528
(541) 474-1776
FAX: (541) 474-1770
Customer Service:
800-496-3266
Atrios asks: Is there anything that can get you kicked off talk radio?
I dunno; are there hate speech laws where you live? (there are where I live)
I seem to remember the Palestinians-cheering-9/11 thing being debunked early on, but then so was the Atta/Iraqi Prague meeting, and so many other things that just won't die the stinking death they so richly deserve
Is there anything that can get you kicked off talk radio?
Using reasoned analysis on the air?
Re: Palestinians dancing in the streets: The week after 9/11 the American ambassador in Israel got an inch thick stack of faxes from Palestinians in the territories expressing their condolences. That didn't make as good a sound bite as the ones dancing and carrying on like fools.
I don't have any patience for such behavior. I remember well during the first Gulf war how men gathered at a sports bar near Grand Central Station to cheer the war videos on TV. I walked past the doorway in the winter dark and heard the shouting, looked in, saw what they were cheering, and hurried on my way. Most of my New York friends were home in front of the TV, catatonic with grief and horror. But there were many others, not my friends, hallooing at the TV as if watching a football game. I still don't believe such people deserved the Trade Towers catastrophe as retribution, even if you could prove that a man dead on the 102nd floor had been in that sports bar howling a decade earlier.
Most humans
Most humans are petty and subject to mob madness. It's up to our leaders to keep this baying in check, and direct us towards higher instincts.
Dear Walmart,
Do you carry smallpox blankets? I am looking for one to send to a popular radio show host as a gift.
Please email color selection, shipping and handling information as well as additional cost for gift wrap.
SIncerely,
nnotm
Remember how the pulling down of Saddam's statue looked like a mass gathering, but was a select few in a small space cordoned off by American tanks?
Same with the Palestinian footage on 9/11: a close-up lens distorting the truth for the benefit of 'good pictures'.
(One thing, though it wasn't 'night' in the occupied territories: more like late afternoon.)
I just can't understand Savage. He used to be normal. He was a caring understanding person. He was even friends with NAMBLA-founder and beat-poet Allen Ginsberg. My own (tin foil hat) theory is that as an ethnobotanist, he consumed some substance one time too many that killed a few particular nerve cells in his brain, causing some drastic personality shift toward hatred. The guy is truly bizarre and I pity him more than most uber-rightists.
SAVAGE DRIVERS
In the SF bay area you'll occasionally see a vehicle (most likely a pickup) with a bumper sticker for SAVAGE's radio station. It likely has other angry bumper stickers and numerous American flags.
If you see one, steer clear. Every one of these guys (and they are ALL male) I've seen is as angry as a hornet after its nest has been sprayed. Cutting people off, flipping the bird, tailgating, weaving, speeding ... all standard for these turkeys.
You may be pleased to know that his book "Savage Nation" is now selling at Barnes and Noble for the amazing price of 5.99. There it sits among the other losers: the how to cast your cat's horoscope, the feng shui your garage book, the jerky cookbook, and the Fodor's Guide to Greenland. It was on the best seller's list just a few months ago and for it to fall that fast into the land of unwanted books has got to be a record.
Is there anything that can get you kicked off talk radio?
Attacking Christianity would do it, as would attacking capitalism. The two national religions.
Maybe also not attacking ethnic minorities, gays and lesbians or women enough. Sort of like being a luke-warm hater?
BTW, did Savage actually say this thing?
Normally I'm for free speech.
Savage's audio pollution is not covered by the 1st amendment. It is hate-mongering speech designed incite violence.
This man is dangerous, not just to "liberals", but to the constitutional government of the United States of America. Why can't more people see this? He ought to be arrested and tried before a jury of his "peers" (a scary thought, such a jury).
To bring up one of the most shameful acts of our history, the smallpox biowarfare we waged against the Native Americans, and propose that we revisit that tragedy, not out of desperation but out of hate, such a suggestion is pathologically criminal. Psychopathic personality disorder may fit Savage, who seems totally bereft of feelings for his own species. With no emotional connection to humans, it's easy to suggest all horrors of treatment, as easy as squashing a bug--or murdering six million Jews.
Oh, what could get someone kicked off radio?
Ask Peter Werbe. He's had to fight for his show, and I've read that it's an very popular show (sorry, no numbers). But his problem is that he doesn't hate enough. He preaches only quasi-hatred. Oh, and he's a liberal.
Personally I don't like any of these radio talkers, liberal or not. The standard format seems to be,
A. Host states an opinion, usually with overwrought language and emotion. Opinions are normally oversimplifications of complex issues, i.e., corporations are evil.
B. Host takes filtered calls and does one of two things:
1. Lets caller ramble because he agrees with caller's opinion. Praises caller and pats self on back.
2. Attacks caller and begins to argue. If caller is an idiot, he argues for some time. If caller starts to win argument, then host hangs up on him and gets in the last word.
3. Goto 1.
How is this helpful for public discourse? A show lasts an hour, yet if the hos
Low ratings. And that's the only thing.
Mike Malloy was kicked off Chicago talk radio despite having the highest ratings in his time period. His sin was being an unapologetic liberal.
"These people are the American echo of those Palestinians dancing in the street on 9/11. --SWR"
SWR, hope you see this, because
THERE WERE NO PALESTINIANS DANCING IN THE STREETS ON 911.
That footage has been debunked as old footage, dug up by the tv networks (with a little help from their friends in the WH), and shown incessantly. Classic psychout warfare.
The same is true about the so-called 'anti-American rallies' that we saw on network tv. These were generally funerals, and the 'anti-Americanism' seen on tvs all over America was actually Jordanians and others PRAYING.
Shouting Allahu Akbar to the sky is not an anti-American act. But it was sold to non-Muslim Americans as that, shamelessly. Faux News ran this stuff incessantly, and Murdock stations everywhere ran it.
He was even friends with NAMBLA founder...
Would that be the North American Man Boy Love Association? or the North American Marlon Brando Lookalike Association? just wondering. Personally I don't think he was ever normal, he just hid his hatred better. The rise of the right wing hate culture has just given him a venue to let it all hang out.
The remark also seems to advocate our policy of exterminating native americans....back when......since that was when we used smallpox infected blankets.
Nice.
And it is the liberals who are blinded by hate?
Isn't there a character in "It Can't Happen Here," a Jew who goes out of his way to ram a silly, phoney Gentility down the throats of goy neighbors who son't buy it for a minute but who humor him anyway?
Michael Wiener, an "appeasement Jew" who tried to capitalize on hatred of his own kind, is now linking the American Holocaust (against the Natives, as opposed to Slavery) to treasonously self-destructive spite. Leaving aside the strangeness of a cryptoNazi actually acknowledging that Insufficiently Patriotic Conspiracy Theory (we thought native population increased after Columbus, leaving us to the present state of being in the grip of a white-hating aboriginal majority!) this just cements his loathesome reputation.
Why does Whining Wiener hate America...and Jews...and innocent Iranians...and Native Americans for that matter?
And let no one say Atrios is giving Wiener publicity. Hate-fountains like Cal Thomas, Hal...that Hal guy advertising on Jazeerah.info, and Whining
And let no one say Atrios is giving Wiener publicity. Hate-fountains like Cal Thomas, Hal...that Hal guy advertising on Jazeerah.info, and Whining Wiener should be exposed.
Mo Rocca used this line as a joke on the Today Show on Thanksgiving morning. Hmmm.....
Ooh, be careful! Savage Weiner and his buddies Ashcroft and Bush are gonna be looking for your asses on the playground at recess!
You can read about actual genocide in progress here.
Paul-source on debunking triumphant celebrating Palestinians? Not disagreeing, but we want to be able to use that.
In the months and weeks leading up to the Rwanda genocide, hate radio was a major impetus. It became a daily drumbeat for killing Tutsis.You can look it up in Gurevitch's (sp?) book and elsewhere. I believe there was a recent war-crimes conviction against these "talk-show hosts" as well.
An excited/exciting voice speaking to fear and anger can be an incredibly powerful seductress. It can make millions, conquer Europe, etc.
According to snopes.com the Palestinians dancing in the street story is true.
http://www.snopes.com/rumors/cnn.htm
I'm almost sorry I brought it up. I wasn't trying to smear the Palestinians even more than they have been, just trying to point out that Americans regularly engage in behavior that's every bit as boneheaded as people in the Middle-East are accused of doing.
"Paul-source on debunking triumphant celebrating Palestinians? Not disagreeing, but we want to be able to use that."
Of course, I'm sure that the cameramen went looking for Palestinians who were celebrating in the streets. I could very easily take my camcorder out into the streets of Manhattan right now and come up with a nice series of soundbites of white Americans laughing about civilians being killed in Iraq or about Iranians dying in the earthquake.
My point was merely that there are haters everywhere and if you look for it, you'll find it. To say that no Palestinians celbrated on 9/11 would be dehumanizing almost as much as taking an out of context celebration and using it to represent the majority.
Arial Sharon is quite possibly waiting for results of the election, one reason it's so important to beat Bush.
I'm sure if Bush wins, "transfer" is one option on the table. If it's Dean or Clark, then Sharon will back off because either is too much of an unknown quanitity.
I think it's the same with any future invasions in the Middle East. I doubt Bush will act against Syria or Iran before 2004, but all bets are off if he wins.
"In the months and weeks leading up to the Rwanda genocide, hate radio was a major impetus. It became a daily drumbeat for killing Tutsis.You can look it up in Gurevitch's (sp?) book and elsewhere. I believe there was a recent war-crimes conviction against these "talk-show hosts" as well."
"I dunno; are there hate speech laws where you live? (there are where I live)".....................
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"...and Savage ain't the only roach. Some are fatter (Rush "To the pharmacist!" Limbaugh), dumber (George "What, me worry?" Bush), and more sickening (Adam "Coulter's Potential Boyfriend" Yoshida) "
"Savage's audio pollution is not covered by the 1st amendment. It is hate-mongering speech designed incite violence. "......................
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"someone should abduct and torture savage"
"Someone should send Savage an ebola laced blanket. What an asshole. I wish karma would hurry up and get him, preferably with something painful."
"and what about those terrorists near Dallas? I think we should invade their country, kill their leaders, and convert them all to ... to"
Someone should point out the irony of PotKettleBlack's ignorance regarding modified rightist quotes not being the same thing morally as their original sentiments. But we're not responding to trolls in the Bush-Ejecting Year.
Another thing we're not doing is fiddling with shiny metal headgear: "Thus, when the first attack occurred in New York just before 9:00 A.M., Palestine time would have been 3:00 P.M., and the area would still have been bathed in plenty of mid-afternoon sunlight.)"
So...in other words...while Americans were ignorant of the very first attacks, (see Bush's imaginary look at a nonexistant news visual before entering the classroom,) an illiterate Palestinian mob was better informed. But then of course all wogs were in on it...
wqeiner guy is so concerned about the white race and whatever, that he spends his off-air time running a vitamin business (where his son consorts with a porn star).
Is there any way in which Savage is not a phony?
Any mad cow in said vitamins? That could explain a lot of things.
i don't usually get emotional about any of this political stuff, but i'd personally like to deliver a couple of smallpox infected blankets to his house.
Won't somebody please think of the teen sex slaves!
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