HULK SMASH!!!
I'm sure the Republicans are going to dine out on Teresa.
It's very, very, hard to have a brain in this country. Doubly so if you are a woman.
Thwe reactionaries are at least in part correct. I hate America(n media), from top to bottom.
And Judy Dean is Jewish too! How dare she be that way! [/sarcasm]
Seriously, we all knew that it was only a matter of time before a major candidate had a wife who was a career woman and who didn't want to give up that life.
Heck, Tom Clancy in Executive Orders had Jack Ryan's wife still wanting to keep her career (As a doctor, nonetheless) after he took over the oval office. It's been years in coming, and is something that seems like a good thing to me.
I'm left wondering; if it had been a wife on the other side who had a career, would she have gotten the same reception?
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No, of course not, because the dishing of scandal and the personal attacks are primarily a republican modus operandi. Democrats are (foolishly?) still trying to talk policy.
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""The doctors Dean seem to be in need of some tips on togetherness and building a healthy political marriage," opined Maureen Dowd, a single woman who, even if she weds tomorrow, will be in a nursing home by the time she's been married for twenty-three years like the Deans."
Ouch. That's so good.
Imagine the endless coverage if Judy had killed someone with her car!!!
There is a course on 'First Ladies' at Rider University?
I would like to know if this school gets federal or state money in any way?
If so then someone should complain.
I gues that means me?
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Aren't Dowd and Brown supposedly liberals? Wait, wait...no they're just part of that incestuous and incompetent media elite.
brilliant.
It's very, very, hard to have a brain in this country. Doubly so if you are a woman.
Thank you, Dr.P., you got my vote.
I'm an Edwards supporter, but that hasn't kept me from being outraged at the media's treatment of the entire Judy Steinberg story. Katha Pollit always writes a good column, but this one deserves placement in an anthology of early 21st Century American political writing.
Judy Steinberg is the best argument for Dean's candidacy I have yet seen.
Excellent column. And it's nothing more than simple common sense, stated plainly. Maureen Dowd should hang her head in shame.
Katha Pollitt[, Al Cockburn and that nice "Mad Law Professor" chick, by t]he[i]r columns alone [probably should include Stu also] kept us getting the Nation forever. We eventually stopped because of the Altered Man mindless DLC support, and because every good library has it (like the very expensive Economist). But she's a jewel, what columnists and o'liellies are actually supposed to be: someone who spits out the long-obfuscated outraged commonsense truth.
Fabulous column! Thanks for the link.
I love the idea of Teresa Heinz Kerry as first lady. What does she care what people think about her? She's 65, a multi-millionaire, can speak at least 4 languages, well-educated and traveled, veteran political wife -- and she's wacky!
Of course, the media is going to have a field day with her if Kerry becomes the nominee.
Diane Sawyer: "Why did you make your husband sign a prenuptial agreement? Did you not trust him or believe that your marriage would last?"
Katha is great. She's also courageous enough to say how things are. Wait, isn't courage a male attribute according to George Will? At least so he says in his latest opinion column in the great liberal newspaper, the Washington Post.
That was awesome.
Does Phyllis Schafley know about Dr. Judy?
I thought the media had no shame. I was wrong. They are filled with shame to the point that they have to lash out at those people who have not prostituted themselves as much of the press corps now has. They are trying to bring Judy and Howard down to the level of the incestuous mob that the DC/NY media has let itself become. They think they're kool kidz, but when did prostitution become cool? They meet someone like Judy who has accomplished great things without giving up their dignity and the craven scriptbitches become jealous. They call good, normal folks 'elitists'. What a twisted bunch of fools. It's no wonder that honest commentators like Krugman stand out so much. He should be the norm instead of the exception. The days of Walter Cronkite are sadly gone.
Apropos of nothing, I shall contribute to the shallow end of the national discussion. Dr. Judy...hot or not? Have you seen the ABC video?
She's hot.
Oy vey. I swear, its like the 60's 70's and 80's never happened. And you know, its the women who are worse critisizing women than men!
I like Judy Steinberg. Good for her to have her own life, then to follow her husband around with a fake smile all the time like Laura Bush. I hope, if it ever happens, she stays in Vermont to take care of her life and patients. Who needs nasty, snotty Washington anyway.
For all you supposed Dems out there that were thrilled to see Dr Dean taken down, don't get exited, your man is next.
"A woman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle." --Gloria Steinem
What a hetero/marriage-supremecist article. I'm actually kind of sickened by it.
Women critisizing women-I meant Diane Sawyer. But then she also told the Dixie Chicks "Shame on you." What a turd.
No one reprimands Laura Bush for abandoning her career as a librarian and spending her life as her husband's den mother.
Katha, you're fantastic!
If Theresa Heinz Kerry were a man, no one would ask her why she asked for a prenuptial agreement. Jeez louise. That being said, prenups are de rigeur when wealthy (and even relatively well-to-do) people enter into later marriages. Especially when there are children from prior marriages. I just can't see the prenup issue getting any legs with most voters. If they're older people, they understand a little about wealth management. If they're younger people, they're likely not to see the point.
Esp. liked this:
...Sawyer acted as if she wanted to understand Dr. Judy's bizarre behavior: She keeps her maiden name professionally (just like, um, Diane Sawyer, a k a Mrs. Mike Nichols)...
When Sawyer does the inevitable Kerry-Heinz interview, I hope they remember to ask La Diane about her botox use.
The question should also be asked of Woodruff and Zahn, for starters (you can throw in the male whore of your choice, too).
The whole First Lady thing really gets to me, too. I'm with Katha on that. It is one of the things that makes me doubt seriously that we are going to see a woman president in my lifetime. I think it's truly weird that so much is made out of candidates' marriages and their spouses.
All of which reminds me - why does anyone think that the president should be encouraging people to get married (as long as they are of opposite sexes)? Why is getting married such a virtue? Don't get me wrong - I like marriage personally. But that's my choice, and I can't see why it is something that needs to be part of a government agenda. Everyone doesn't have to get married - there are good reasons for not wanting to. This just gets weirder and weirder. Bush has totally lost his mind at this point, IMO.
Richard - I have no idea which Dems you think were thrilled to see Dean "taken down." Furthermore, I have yet to see Dean "taken down." There are 48 more primaries. Noone knows who is going to wind up with the most votes.
That WAS great, thanks.
"Judy Steinberg is the best argument for Dean's candidacy I have yet seen."
I agree!
I also agree with this:
"For all you supposed Dems out there that were thrilled to see Dr Dean taken down, don't get excited, your man is next."
Excellent article.
It's amazing how backwards this country is becoming. You can almost see the hands going in reverse.
It's time to reset the clock.
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Diane Sawyer, Nixon whore and major assclown.
Tena,
nicked a bit, stumbled, but taken down? Naw, the guy's a frikkin' Gladiator. A Champion, like they say on "Angel".
My son saw him in St Louis yesterday, was really impressed by how clear his eyes were and his level of energy. Says the sumbitch is Deetermined!
EssJay, yar, on a totally superficial level, I find her lovely and attractive. She reminds me of my mother, who also wears sweaters and flats and doesn't put on makeup if she isn't going out and speaks softly and finds famous people, strangers and traffic intimidating. I'd elect my mom to any office in the land, and that's how I felt about Dr. Judy.
As Katha the Goddess put it so well, not every husband and wife are joined at the hip. Some of us find it quite possible to go out alone or with friends, do our jobs and spend a heck of a lot of time away from one another and find that it strengthens, rather than weakens, our marriage. Some of the most fucked-up marriages I've seen among my friends are the ones where the couple just can't ever be apart for any reason, ever.
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EssJay, yar, on a totally superficial level, I find her lovely and attractive.
My sense was "pleasingly normal". I mean, can you strike a more stark contrast to Laura's "homicidal clown smile"?!
Speaking of Laura Bush - can you imagine having Bar as a mother in law? Oh my god.
Now I am sinking to the level of the media nitwits, but honestly - Barbara Bush as your mother in law. Yeeeaaaaaaaagh!
bbuster - Every time I see footage of Dean lately, he looks better and better.
Speaking of Laura Bush - can you imagine having Bar as a mother in law? Oh my god.
Wow. Actually, I can't. And I have an imagination that is both active and depraved. There are some areas, though, that it just can't go. (Call it self-preservation.) This could make me pity Laura -- or, at least, form the basis for an insanity defense when we finally discover that Laura has been dragging children into sewers and killing them...
Holly cow, Tena, Babs is a really supportive mother-in-law. Just ask Neilsie's ex.
Holy, not holly.
Or maybe Neil's fiancee would be a better source to provide verification.
I like Dr. S. just fine, but in my fantasy version of the Sawyer interview, when Diane asks her about taking her husband's name, Judy asks her how she and Mr. Sawyer worked that one out.
And Dr. S. doesn't need to pattern after the Mrs. Bushes or Jackie O. She has Stockard Channing.
There is something positively disgusting watching the way The Deans have to answer to the American Whore media.
Never mind the fact that they are an educated professional couple. But they have to put themselves up to be humiliated at the feet of the likes of Diane Sawyer. I mean, when was the last time Sawyer did anything remotely worthwile? If ever there was an education wasted, it is Sawyers. A woman who enjoys a professional life, and salary, but can only get it by spouting the Republican hick philosophy
Sawyer, like wolfie the whore have become the right wing version of Pravda. SMEAR, SUGGEST, SLIME, any one who is a threat to the Rights dominance.
I dont know how they sleep at night, but then I guess they want that new BMW!
I've always enjoyed Katha's pen, but that one was out of the park - every word absolute gold. I trust we're all going to bomb Diane Nichols' email box with a copy? Let's emulate the ditto-borgs and hammer, hammer, hammer. If we all kicked hard enough, the soundbites in columns like this COULD become next week's media meme.
(aside: Mike Nichols!? Jeebus on toast points! I'm old enough to remember his brilliance back to the Elaine May days. How can such a legendary creative genius be married to such a public fucking idiot whose every waking breath is in the service of dumbing humanity down to the sub-Paris Hilton level?)
Actually all the dem wives I've seen fairly rock. Judy Steindean I want to marry myself. I saw Gert Clark on CSpan and just about thought she should be running instead of Wes. Oh and PLEASE bring it on with Teresa the Heinz K! She is half the reason I could be cool with Kerry.
Y'know, the attacks on Dr. Steinberg really backfired. Even the winger women defended her: "Shit, people! Who wears high heels to the grocery store?! Leave the woman alone!"
I think the sexism inherent in the nasty critiques are offensive to women in general, regardless of their political beliefs.
Acting like the woman is some kind of freak because she has a career is pretty stupid in a country where such large numbers of women do the same.
Guy:It's amazing how backwards this country is becoming. You can almost see the hands going in reverse.
It's time to reset the clock.
Yep. But it isn't going to happen. "Everybody knows" that the country is sliding to the right, and that means that all the media pundits must dig up their 1950's files on how to discuss women in the public eye. Were they aren't supposed to be anymore, unless it's as Stepford wives.
And don't read my blog, either 
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I don't know that I'd be so hard on Diane Sawyer, though. Sure, the questions were stupid, but they were aligned with the stupid nature of the attacks, and gave the Drs. Dean the chance to demonstrate how truly idiotic they were.
Oh come on - like this is something new? Ya'll don't remember Bill and Hillary having to go on TV together and be grilled over the state of their marriage when the Gennifer Flowers thing broke?
There is absolutely nothing new about this. We've always seen this - this isn't some "slide to the right."
But Tena,
The Clintons were also Democratic.
We never see this crap asked of the Republican wives. Don't you remember how the media just loved Mrs Dole, 'the career woman.'
Rather different when Hillary was running for office.
SLIME, SMEAR, SUGGEST, That is the Rights way!
Tena, you have a point, but remember with the Clintons there were rumors of infidelity. Although it was still *completely* stupid, there was a legitimate question about their marriage. This is acting like there are legitimate questions about their marriage because Howard gives flowers as gifts and Judy enjoys her medical practice, and that Judy's a weirdo 'cuz she wears flats and likes flowers. There is a difference.
And I'm astonished that anyone used *Laura Bush's* 'fashion' sense to critique anyone!
Tena, you're right. It's part of the baptism of fire. Do you remember the Bushes getting grilled?
I'm just curious. I didn't follow them at all, so I don't know.
pie -
If by grilled, you mean, did the media ask Mrs. Bush about the vehicular manslaughter she committed as a teenager, then no.
IIRC, every single front running candidate and his wife have appeared with one of the female talking heads during the campaign. There has always been this "human interest" crap in the possible "First Family." Always. I don't remember the questions they were all asked, because I haven't paid that much attention. But I also remember the amount of publicity that Ronnie's unruly kids got - the noncomformists.
It's stupid and a waste of time, but it's not anything new.
Why are so many people obsessed with other people's marriages?
Celebrity marriage, gay marriage, tax-payer funded marriage classes, Jesus, I've been married for close to a quarter century and I 'm not that obsessed with MY marriage.
Damn, the American people need to pay attention to their own lives for a while and leave the rest of us the fuck alone.
Oh, and Judy Steinberg is great.
And just so I remain consistent in these threads:
Laura Bush's car has killed more people than Tommy Chong's bong.
Free Tommy Chong.
So good it deserves repeating:
Jesus, I've been married for close to a quarter century and I 'm not that obsessed with MY marriage.
A.
cosmic grappler - yes, that was something I was wondering on either this thread or another. I don't get why anyone thinks that someone's marriage is something that everyone gets to stick their noses into. I also totally fail to see what it is about marriage that makes it something that Rover and Bushie think the president should be encouraging - provided one is talking about a man and a woman. That one really confounds me.
I'm with you, cosmic. It's none of our business. And people who live in glass houses...
Of course, it's easy to be sanctimonious if tone's own skeletons remain in the closet.
Travis, I'm sure that if any of the dems' wives had a similar history, the media would have ignored it too.
one's own!!!!
Apropos of a remark Pollit made in her column:
My only memory of "Mr. Margaret Thatcher" is a caricature of him at the end of a Roger Moore James Bond movie.
No one seemed too concerned with their marriage, did they? And I can't get my understanding past the proposition that another person's marriage is none of my business.
As Gene Lyons once memorably said: "Another person's marriage is a country where I don't speak the language."
Robert - great quote. And so absolutely true. Noone ever knows what is happening in someone else's marriage, no matter how much one might think that one does know.
How can such a legendary creative genius be married to such a public fucking idiot whose every waking breath is in the service of dumbing humanity down to the sub-Paris Hilton level...
Ditto.
Robert,
That reminds me of something someone said about Margaret Thatcher:
She's Reagan with balls.
Maybe that's the difference. I don't know.
Great Article. A-(wo)men!
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You know what is fair game, and what I wish a reporter would ask Bush? "We've been hearing disturbing reports about your brother, Neil, and his association with prostitutes and other problems. Since you are a born again Christian, don't you feel that it is your duty to try to persuade your brother to come to Jesus?"
Seems fair.
Clark was asked to disavow Michael Moore, and that one created quite a contretemps. Why shouldn't Bush be required to disavow Neil?
>Why are so many people obsessed with other people's marriages?
Because many people in this country really haven't moved developmentally beyond high school .
What else explains the popularity of glossy celeb fetish magazines and Entertainment Tonight?
And my theory also holds with regard to the preponderance of mullet haircuts in Fly-Over country.
Judy Dean is neither an argument for or against Howard Dean's election. If you really buy Pollitt's argument, she shouldn't be a factor at all.
But what I want to know is this: is Pollitt going to start webstalking MoDo the way she did her ex?
(oops -- not MoDo; I meant Diane Sawyer. Got my threads crossed.)
Robert - I said this in the thread below, but your comment about Texas Monthly was really interesting. I had no idea - I never look at TM, I've never liked it. But that was a great comment about the change there in the feeling about Bush.
With all this, and it's just the bare beginnings of the turn against him, I don't see any way in hell that his presidency can be rehabilitated by November enough to make it viable. I just don't.
Promoting marriage is a sure winner for the Repugs. It is like being "pro-life", if you aren't "pro-marriage" then you must be "pro-divorce" or "pro-shacking-up" or whatever. They get to frame the issue once again.
"Come to Jesus" oh yeeaah brother Bush. And while you are asking Neil, what about a Jesus moment by watching and honoring the unloaded the dead and wounded every night at Mathews AFB? Funding No Child Left Behind? Rescinding the pharmaceutical industry bill ( and how come the industry gets its money first?) and so many other "come" moments. Yeeaaasss, Jeeeesuuusss!!
Tena--
Burka sort of stunned me when he so rabidly supported Bush as gov. You are right (in the comment on the other thread), Texas Gov. doesn't really do much. Burka is usually a sharp enough observer to realize that, but his encomiums of Dubya made it sound like Bush was a political genius, when all he really did was snow John Bullock (who apparently was getting a bit long in the tooth if he was that easily fooled at the end).
And you could have knocked me over with a feather when I saw that cover.
I really see that as a serious nail in Dubya's political coffin. If Burka is so willing to so publicly question Dubya's fitness for office, then Dubya is in deep political trouble indeed.
I'm with you. I really don't see him recovering. Which means it's the Dem's race to lose. Just like it was last time.
Unfortunately.
"John Bullock?" Hell, I know better than that. "Bob" Bullock was Lite Gov. (the real power in Texas), and a good one, too.
But he stayed too long, and Bush charmed him like the ol' snake Bob was....
Because many people in this country really haven't moved developmentally beyond high school .
Yes, as someone wiser than I once observed, life really is like high school.
And no, we are not sitting at the cool table.
Robert - Yes, it is ours to lose. And god help everyone if we do.
I'm glad that life is at least like high school, because if it was like junior high, I'd go hang myself.
High school largely didn't happen for me - I stayed stoned for 2 years running and never went to school. They graduated me to get rid of me. I can handle that.
Nice writing. Thanks for the pointer. But her husband's position on Abenakis is hard on the health of Abenakis, and we don't _ever_ get nice, loving, warm, friendly press.
Why WebStalk when you can Stalk stalk?
A smart Democratic operative would hire detectives to follow MoDo and Mrs. Mike Nichols around. Interrogate the help. Look up old boyfriends and school "chums" and cull a few "relevant" quotes. Attack the fucking bitches with everything you've got and never let up for an instant.
Pollitt's right about political spouses (and marriages altogether) being a Merkin obsession. First Ladies in particular are treated like an administration's damn hood ornament.
Tina Brown, another goddess of the hearth, compared Dr. Judy to mad Mrs. Rochester in Jane Eyre.
Yeesh, Howard Dean's stark raving mad cause he, uh, raised his voice to be heard over a raucus crowd so geddaloadahiz crazy wife, Judith!
I hope the circle of Hell for media Heathers is place where they're restricted to writing only about each other (rather than at each other, the the way they do now.)
A smart Democratic operative would hire detectives to follow MoDo and Mrs. Mike Nichols around. Interrogate the help. Look up old boyfriends and school "chums" and cull a few "relevant" quotes. Attack the fucking bitches with everything you've got and never let up for an instant.
Well, I don't know about those particular tagets, but I'd like to see the dirt about others. Then get the SCLM to print it.
targets. Damn.
Now that people like Friedman have decided to switch to the bash Bush mobile, I want to hear the mea culpas from them. And if they don't start coming forward with them, we all need to remind them of where they stood such a short time ago.
Now that people like Friedman have decided to switch to the bash Bush mobile
Crazy Tommie the Bush Basher? When did this happen and how did I miss it?
Ab - there is a link to the Friedman piece - which bashes the economy - in the MoDo thread. Near the bottom, but not all the way there.
Holy crap, just got back from the NYT. Sorry Tena, I forgot that they post his column on Saturday. (although its listed as Feb 1). You know, the boy has been sounding amazingly sane lately. I remember he use to do this on a more regular basis before 9-11.
Fuck Tom Friedman. This disgrace of a war must be investigated, I don't care whose feelings are hurt. How can he just blow that off, all those people dead and hurt, both countries in shambles? He's another one who needs to say "I should probably kill myself for what I've done, but I'm going to try from now on to be a better man."
Maybe they upped Tommy-boys meds.
It's ok to be wrong. Hell, I'm wrong all the time. But he's got very little excuse for being wrong about Iraq. And that was a big one.
If he's right about everything from now to the end of his life I still won't piss on him if he's on fire as they lower him into the ground.
Agree with the person who said Pollitt and Cockburn are the only good reasons to read The Nation anymore. They put them in on alternate weeks so you have to pick the thing up every week.
Judy rocks!! She'd be the best first lady since Eleanor Roosevelt.
Doesn't Naomi Klein have a Nation column? And who's Stu?
If Judy Dean had been there when Laura Bush hit the woman with her car, that woman might be alive today.
But then, the way the Bushs drive-maybe not.
Don't worry Tena, "Enduring Friedman" is on it:
http://enduringfriedman.blogspot.com/
There's also the weekly poem in the Nation. Still, even with Katha and all, we are thinking of not resubscribing. But what's the alternative? I need something on paper to read in the tub. Maybe the weekly Guardian? It's pretty pricey, though.
Been meaning to resubscrite to the Nation. Katha alone is surely worth it.
Arianna H waxes poetically about the female Dr. Dean in her latest column at http://www.ariannaonline.com/col...les/
012804.html . Rather a different take but an admiring one nevertheless.
""For all you supposed Dems out there that were thrilled to see Dr Dean taken down, don't get excited, your man is next.""
Yeah, and your women, too!
this just makes george look like a lesser woman and Dean more of a MAN. a REAL grown up. way back when.
Judy Steinberg is one of the loveliest human beings I have ever seen on television.
Judy Steinberg is one of the loveliest human beings I have ever seen on television.
but boy can she not manage money. blowing through 40 large in only two primary contests - makes me want to see the books. how much did she and her hubby siphon off do you think?
almost makes you wonder if the entire exercise was to liberate money from the sheeple - which i think can go into their bank accounts when they abandon the race.
best scam in amerika.
Judy was quite impressive. It speaks volumes about her husband. He's already won a serious victory with a wife like that.
Sawyer is contemptible. A bimbo of the hard right.
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The media are the enemy. Who's more guilty?:
A) A semi-crazy, pathological liar with aphasia, or
B) A cop holding up a megaphone to his lips for a handful of silver.
They're supposed to be truth cops...except they're paid well for repeating lies by their oligarch masters. Fuck this shit.
Kill your TV. The blogs are the only ones doing the job right these days anyways.
"...how much did she and her hubby siphon off do you think?"
Chump, just because you would rip people off doesn't mean Dean has. Fuck off.
Just tremendous. This line alone should be worth a Pulitzer:
``It's possible she and her husband didn't understand they had left the real world for Mediaville, where it's always 1955, and thought it was no big deal if she kept working in Shelburne instead of being marched around Iowa in a power suit with a big bottle of Valium in her purse.''
A smart Democratic operative would hire detectives to follow MoDo and Mrs. Mike Nichols around. Interrogate the help. Look up old boyfriends and school "chums" and cull a few "relevant" quotes. Attack the fucking bitches with everything you've got and never let up for an instant.
David Ehrenstein | Email | Homepage | 01.31.04 - 7:23 pm
Good idea, David
"A good scare is worth more than good advice" - Anonymous
Kill your TV. The blogs are the only ones doing the job right these days anyways.
Silent Majority
And they're under constant attack from the Republicans. If Georgie gets back into the whitehouse expect some FCC action to finance internet consolidation and permission to kill off independent internet resources.
Slightly OT:
The most bizarre description of John Kerry yet, and how image counts in politics
For those for whom Haloscan parses the commas in that URL (it seems to have improved just now), the title of the Observer article is
"Relentless rise of the lantern-jawed lego-haired yeti in a suit"
"Relentless rise of the lantern-jawed lego-haired yeti in a suit"
That was great! Can we trade Marie Philips for Maureen Dowd?
Questions I would like to see Diane Sawyer ask Laura Bush---
Your husband was an admitted drunk until age 40, how hard was it to raise twins with a hard drinking husband and father?
Your girls, now aged 22, have seemingly inherited their father's "public drunkeness" gene, what was your part in their upbringing?
Chelsea Clinton and the Dean children seem so normal, for democrats, how is it that your born again, church going, silver spoon in the mouth brats have turned out so poorly?
One final question, do you feel comfortable sitting next to Neil Bush (cooties and all that) knowing his sexual history?
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The shameful press attack on Judy Dean makes me sad and angry.
I love Pollitt.
Questions I would like to see Diane Sawyer ask Laura Bush---
Your husband was an admitted drunk until age 40, how hard was it to raise twins with a hard drinking husband and father?
Your girls, now aged 22, have seemingly inherited their father's "public drunkeness" gene, what was your part in their upbringing?
Chelsea Clinton and the Dean children seem so normal, for democrats, how is it that your born again, church going, silver spoon in the mouth brats have turned out so poorly?
One final question, do you feel comfortable sitting next to Neil Bush (cooties and all that) knowing his sexual history?
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The shameful press attack on Judy Dean makes me sad and angry.
world traveler | Email | Homepage | 02.01.04 - 8:43 am | #
This is brilliant!
Clark was asked to disavow Michael Moore, and that one created quite a contretemps. Why shouldn't Bush be required to disavow Neil?
Robert M. Jeffers
I'm really late to this interesting thread -- just wanted to say we shouldn't forget every brother of a democratic president has been scrutinized: Billy Carter, Roger Clinton, drugs, beer, illegal money, we know most there is to know about them!
As to World Traveler's list on Neil bush, I'd like to know if he attends the family get-togethers in Kennebunkport, and what he and the twins talk about there.
- For the sake of honesty and balance, I will say this...Maureen Dowd (NYT columnist), followed up her rather negative editorial on the Deans and Judy's role with a very positive column citing her charm and praising the type of person that she seems to be. MoDO isnt all as bad as we tend to portray her...she has a biting tongue on the Bushies most of the time if one reads her regularly.
No issue or withdrawl of leisure. Unholiday error having to sign in to hospital or then leaving happy thanksgiving love all. Rest in Peace.
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