Shorter Bush campaign ads:
George W. Bush -- Because he was president when that thing happened, remember?
buck |
03.06.04 - 10:25 am | #
Bush's behavior on 9/11, far from being heroic, was actually representative of his administration:
He busied himself with irrelevancies (reading the children's book).
He hid.
He evaded.
And eventually, they lied - about the terrorists targeting Air Force 1.
Jon H |
03.06.04 - 10:27 am | #
Kerry should hire Appel.
Streaker |
03.06.04 - 10:27 am | #
Bush is obviously letting his strategists make these decisions; he's still distracted by another terrible incident:
A tragic fire on Monday destroyed the personal library of President George W. Bush. Both of his books were lost. A presidential spokesman said the president was devastated, as he had not finished coloring the second one.
Brooklyn Girl |
03.06.04 - 10:29 am | #
What I find fascinating is that this President refuses to attend funerals for soldiers who gave the last full measure of devotion to their country, and forbids our news media to film or report on the return of those soldiers bodies to the United States. This is done "out of respect for the families."
On the other hand, firefighters pulling a body from the wreckage of the WTC is acceptable for use in a partisan political advertisement, even if the firefighters union themselves condemns it.
Whats very clear is that the deaths of Americans is to be acknowledged only when it creates political advantage to the White House.
What I find fascinating is that this President refuses to attend funerals for soldiers who gave the last full measure of devotion to their country, and forbids our news media to film or report on the return of those soldiers bodies to the United States. This is done "out of respect for the families."
On the other hand, firefighters pulling a body from the wreckage of the WTC is acceptable for use in a partisan political advertisement, even if the firefighters union themselves condemns it.
Whats very clear is that the deaths of Americans is to be acknowledged only when it creates political advantage to the White House.
Holy shit, Magnum. I don't know how do feel about that as satire. I laughed, and then it dawned on me what I was looking at. I hope Americans can have a similar reaction to Bush's bullshit ads.
Pheo |
03.06.04 - 10:36 am | #
another letter in the NYT (days-old meme to the blogosphere):
All the ads need is a voiceover: "On Sept. 11, 2001, George W. Bush presided over one of the worst failures of intelligence and security in United States history, when 15 Saudis and 4 others (not one of them from Iraq) diverted four American airliners, flying two of them into the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center. Immediately thereafter, while United States flights were grounded, President Bush allowed several prominent Saudis to leave the country . . ."
flatulus |
Homepage |
03.06.04 - 10:37 am | #
Let us not forget that this message is playing very well in mid America and among middle class homeowners as well.I am always astounded that, with the panoply of Bush screw ups and arrogant give aways to his cronies, he remains popular with close to 50% of our fellow citizens
Why, I wonder might this be true? Is it the bias of the media ,refusing to dig and accepting anything they are given? Is it the lack of a forum for opposition opinion? Is it the cowardice and complicity of the democrats for the last three years?
Ardee |
03.06.04 - 10:37 am | #
Indeed. You return to the scene of your biggest fuck-up and hope people will think more highly of you?
Bob H |
03.06.04 - 10:38 am | #
Brooklyn Girl, and he had just gotten better at staying in the lines when he colored.
pie |
03.06.04 - 10:38 am | #
DonS, Magnum; agreed. Mag, that 'ad' is unspeakable. But then, being in the UK I've not seen the Bush ads...
TheaLogie |
03.06.04 - 10:39 am | #
Steady Leadership in Times of Change
Magnum
oooooohhhhh... that's gonna leave a mark!
renato |
Homepage |
03.06.04 - 10:40 am | #
Given W's intransigent nature, this is good. He won't back off from these ads, no matter how much political damage is done, out of sheer hubris. Once he admits a mistake, where will it end? When your whole life rests on an underpinning of lies, it's unwise to tinker with the foundation.
TownDrunk |
03.06.04 - 10:41 am | #
I would recommend that the president stay the course with this ad campaign. We'll see what the voters say.
"...And once we see what the voters say, we'll throw screaming fits for the entire duration of the Kerry administration, just like we did when Billary KKKlintoon was President."
Kuno HR |
03.06.04 - 10:53 am | #
That 'steady leadership' cartoon was on Bartcop's site (it's on a page that leads off one of his front-page issues).
Bart qualifies the cartoon with this: Yes, it's in bad taste, you're supposed to get mad when you see it.
..but instead of getting mad at me, get mad at Bush who's exploiting
his 9-11 nap (at best) and get mad at the press for not doing their
damn jobs and get mad at the people who accept Bush's refusal
to give the 9-11 commission more than an hour where he certainly will
repeat his Meet the Press performance with long, rambling monologs
that won't answer any questions as he keeps his eyes on the clock.
Damn! I hate when I forget to change my name back. Stoopid stoopid Haloscan.
Magnum |
03.06.04 - 10:58 am | #
' Why, I wonder might this be true? Is it the bias of the media ,refusing to dig and accepting anything they are given? Is it the lack of a forum for opposition opinion? Is it the cowardice and complicity of the democrats for the last three years?'
No, common sense.
commuter |
03.06.04 - 11:06 am | #
your boy is goin' down, commuter. Suck on that.
renato |
Homepage |
03.06.04 - 11:11 am | #
Doubt it. Most people think for themselves. Despite all the foolishness bandied about on this site to the contrary, it's not a lack of exposure that the democrats currently suffer from. It's too much exposure.
commuter |
03.06.04 - 11:17 am | #
Here's the thing - when cast in the light of all his other fuckups, the greatest security failure in the history of the United States actually looks good by comparison.
What, you thought he was gonna run on his jobs record?
stranger |
Homepage |
03.06.04 - 11:21 am | #
Anyone notice how nobody is discussing the polls anymore which alleged that more than two-thirds of all Americans thought Iraq was involved in the attacks of 9/11?
Notice how nobody is discussing new polls taken since the Iraq war about whether they *still* think Iraq was invovled in the attacks of 9/11?
Notice how nobody is discussing how polls showed two-thirds of all Americans thought there were Iraqis among the 19 hijackers?
Notice how nobody is discussing new polls taken since the Iraq war about whether they *still* think there were Iraqis among the 19 hijackers?
Notice how there have been no polls asking whether Americans think Bush and/or his administration of the nation's security was at fault for the events of 9/11?
Notice how there have been no nationwide polls asking how many Americans think the administration used 9/11 for political gain?
In fact, the only real polls that I've seen are those concerning topics surrounding the upcoming elections.
I would like to know if Americans still think Iraq was involved in 9/11 or had members on the team of 19 hijackers?
I think commuter meant, "No common sense". That fits best, and it's how his comment appeared at first glance when I read it.
Macjazz |
03.06.04 - 11:24 am | #
I think we need to remind Americans that Bush read to a group of school kids read while the rest of the country watched people jumping out of two 110 story burning buildings on live television.
After that, he turned tail and ran a yellow streak to Omaha to "get out of harm's way". Bush was AWOL in the Guard, he was AWOL on 9/11, he was AWOL before 9/11 on his month long vacation to Crawford after just six months on the job, and he's been AWOL in giving answers to the American people.
If you ask me, these ads are another major tactical boner. They will become a joke - just like his stunt on the aircraft carrier last May. He won't be able to run fast enough away from this debacle.
Crunchy |
03.06.04 - 11:27 am | #
Poor commuter. He can't think for himself. Otherwise, he would realize that the Bushies don't want exposure, because when you lift up the rock, look what scurries into another hiding place:
responsibility for Sept. 11
Plame affair leakers
papers from Cheney's task force meetings
intelligence fabricators in the run-up to war
pie |
03.06.04 - 11:32 am | #
I remember distinctly hearing some repugs on tv in the days immediately post Sept. 11 calling out to not ever politicize this event. Too late!
The Kerry ad should be a split screen
"...Some are leaders while some freeze at the helm" with Bush reading to the kids with a radio voice-over of the ongoing attack or a scrolling timeline,and Kerry on the other side in his jungle boat. But no visual of the towers... unless it gets desperate. Like when they pull Osama out of a hat.
chuco |
03.06.04 - 11:34 am | #
Bush, Kerry, whoever... American leaders are morons. They bully minor irritants like Iraq and Haiti, but do not dare take on real threats like Pakistan (biggest proliferator of nuclear stuff), Saudi Arabia (biggest proliferator of jihad), or China (biggest proliferator of all deadly stuff).
These numbnut leaders have turned a once proud, safe nation into a vain, unsafe nation which does not want to see and deal with its real enemies.
eSprit de Corpse |
03.06.04 - 11:36 am | #
Good stuff from GWBUSH04
Captainfancypants |
03.06.04 - 11:46 am | #
Poor pie. She lists the sort of things that get the exposure and that make your arguments about substance look so foolish.
You won't win this one pointing at this sort of crap and claming you do not get enough exposure for 'See! See! Worst president ever!. How evil he is!' Trouble is, you get too much exposure of that brand of ABB nonsense.
commuter |
03.06.04 - 11:51 am | #
Towndrunk made the point before I got here.
BushCo is congenitally incapable of admitting error. Which means, when they make one, like with this ad, they'll continue to perpetuate it to prove they aren't wrong. And be damaged in the process. Look for lots more of this type of stuff in the next 8 months.
Jennifer |
03.06.04 - 11:55 am | #
george W bush, steadily keeping the seat warm for the next president.
oops, i forgot about his puppet masters formenting wars.
commuter,
I was about to sympathise with you for being a Bush fanboy. It must really suck to be you around about now.
But if you think that the points referenced by pie are just 'crap' then you deserve all the angst and pain you get from trying to contort your puny brain into believing that the many scandals of the Bush administration are somehow unimportant or even positive.
Magnum |
03.06.04 - 12:02 pm | #
"..I think we need to remind Americans that Bush read to a group of school kids read while the rest of the country watched people jumping out of two 110 story burning buildings on live television..."
This alone is not enough. We need to point out:
1. He lied about seeing the plane hit the tower.
2. Even after knowing what had happened he continued to *****put the children in harm's way by sitting there totally oblivious to the possibility that he might be a target. That the terrorists might know he would be there that morning, and target him while he was.******
You are an idiot. Crap? Tell that to the families of the victims killed on Sept. 11.
Tell that to Valerie Plame.
Tell that to the dead and wounded troops and Iraqi people.
Your boy is going down. Hope you guys know how to swim.
pie |
03.06.04 - 12:20 pm | #
"..After that, he turned tail and ran a yellow streak to Omaha to "get out of harm's way"..."
I have never had a problem with this.
It's how things should be done.
We have to maintain a working government otherwise the 'shadow government' we know they created will take over.
Is that what you would prefer?
Besides, there was nothing Bush could do back in DC that he couldn't do on Air Force one flying around the midwest.
bush-
firm hand on the fan!
(whenever the shit hits it)
with the clarke book out soon,
and air force one having it's phone records subpoenaed,
and bad reaction to the 9-11 ads,
and the doj and even the wh connected to the theft of dem files,
and no iraq constitution,
and no bin laden,
there's no way this squad of monkeys won't invade venezuela, or syria, or there won't be another terrorist attack
in, say, sept or oct.
mamima |
03.06.04 - 12:22 pm | #
You're all morons. You too, Appell.
Why does Bush want to call our attention to this enormity? To scare you. To remind you of the horror of that day and impress upon you the fact that only he stands stalwart between you and Armegeddon, just like Poppy Bush was the sole bulwark between virtuous white women and gangs of homicidal African-American urban rapists seizing pale suburban neighborhoods--ones very, very much like yours, I might add--for their own sadistic purpose.
Why? Because if you're too busy running for your life, you won't think.
Brian C.B. |
03.06.04 - 12:22 pm | #
"..What I find fascinating is that this President refuses to attend funerals for soldiers who gave the last full measure of devotion to their country, and forbids our news media to film or report on the return of those soldiers bodies to the United States. This is done "out of respect for the families."
Disgusting."
DonS | Email | Homepage | 03
Don, the president can't attend them all even if he were moral enough to do so. There would be controversy regarding whose funerals he would attend.
Then there is the matter of there being so many it would take up all the time he could otherwise spend on the campaign trail at fund raisers and on his ranch running scared from his phobia of horses.
Brian C.B., what terrifies me is wondering what will happen if Bush gets four more years.
pie |
03.06.04 - 12:28 pm | #
Hey pansypoo,
Does what's going down in Haiti count towards "4 More Wars!"? Also, Venezuela -- that's pending.
I think Georgie, that eager boy, is getting a head start on his next term's allotment of injustice. Never put off for tomorrow, a war you can start today.
Peanut |
03.06.04 - 12:31 pm | #
"I was about to sympathise with you for being a Bush fanboy. It must really suck to be you around about now."
Commuter is obviously a parrot who squawks repetitiously whatever he hears on right-wing talk radio without bothering to think critically as to whether or not it's true, or even believable.
My apologies to parrots - they're actually highly intelligent.
Crunchy |
03.06.04 - 12:32 pm | #
There would be controversy
regarding whose funerals he would attend.
From who? The SCLM? I consider otherwise.
Magnum |
03.06.04 - 12:33 pm | #
Let us not forget that this message is playing very well in mid America and among middle class homeowners as well.
Look in the Chicago Sun-Times tomorrow. Kerry's beating Bush in Illinois (not just Chicago, it was a statewide poll) by 52 to 39.
The only thing more annoying to me than Republicans assuming everybody on the coasts is liberal and spineless is Democrats assuming everybody in between is conservative and stupid.
How many more people would the party have reached in the past 4 years if they simply hadn't counted them out at the beginning because they live in Nebraska and are therefore morons.
What distrubs me is the assumption by so very many people and endlessly repeated by a mindless press that 9/11, "changed everything."
This notion that everything has changed is a major cornerstone of the Bush campaign rhetoric.
Have any bloggers taken on this absurdity?
Blu |
03.06.04 - 12:39 pm | #
Anybody know how to contact Breslin personally? I'd like to thank him for being the one bulldog amongst the "pekingnese of the press".
Should I just send it care of his editors at Newsday, do you think?
Peanut |
03.06.04 - 12:39 pm | #
Magnum - you should have warned us that there was an ad for Sean Hannity's book on that page. Now I have to go bleach my brain.
Jennifer |
03.06.04 - 12:40 pm | #
Now I have to go bleach my brain
Nevermind that, I'm trying to get my head around the image of a guy standing in front of his parrot repeating "Show us yer tits, luv."
Magnum |
03.06.04 - 12:48 pm | #
"We're trying to be perfectly objective about this," Colonel Cathcart said to Yossarian with the zeal of sudden inspiration. "It's not that I'm being sentimental or anythin. I don't give a damn about the men or the airplane. It's just that it looks so lousy on the report. How am I going to cover up something like this in the report?"
"Why don't you give me a medal?" Yossarian suggested timidly.
...
"You know, that might be the answer--to act boastfully about something we ought to be ashamed of. That's a trick that never seems to fail."
Oh, my. Check out ThugCo's response to Kerry's radio address:
Scott Stanzel, press secretary for the Bush-Cheney re-election campaign, responded Saturday, "If John Kerry's policies had been adopted, our troops would not have the support and protection they need to win the war on terror."
That's the lamest response ever - even for the Bush Gang.
Kerry has put them back on their heels with this, make no mistake.
stranger |
Homepage |
03.06.04 - 1:01 pm | #
My comment to the "Mallard Fillmore" post and some of the OT discussions there. Glad to see I'm finally not the only one....
Can someone explain the logic of the Bush commercials to me? I mean, I'm a really smart guy, and I don't get it:
"OK, so, we got attacked. It was our job to keep it from happening, but we didn't really understand it or take it seriously. You know, shit happens--people make mistakes. But now that we see the threats for what they are you just HAVE to trust us to make you safe."
What am I missing? Is it "hide-in-plain-sight"? At the very least, it's Chutzpah on a grand scale.
Hudson | Email | Homepage | 03.05.04 - 10:15 am
Hudson |
03.06.04 - 1:09 pm | #
Scott Stanzel, press secretary for the Bush-Cheney re-election campaign, responded Saturday, "If John Kerry's policies had been adopted, our troops would not have the support and protection they need to win the war on terror."
He's right. They'd probably all have kevlar suits of armor like they're supposed to, but why should the military budget be compromised by this minor point when we have pork projects in republican districts that need funding?
pie, pie, if you honestly gave a shit about 9/11 or Iraq or why the troops are there or what they have accomplished you wouldn't roost here on this site (a little parrot dig at crunchy).
If you're so 'terrified' about another 4 years with Bush as president, I suppose you could follow the crowd here in November when they all trumpet their plans to move to Canada. Or perhaps just hide from the evil Bushco under your bed for those 4 years.
Perhaps Kerry will win and you won't have to. But, dear terrified little pie if he does, it won't be because of the spin you and the rest of the herd here put on the foolishness you listed.
commuter |
03.06.04 - 1:14 pm | #
Couldn't we have created some jobs manufacturing the ceramic plates for the troops' body armor?
This issue is a guaranteed winner. Nobody who likes Kerry now will be lost (ala gay marriage), and loads of people who adore WWWonderboy (militart, anyone) will begin to question the administration, such as it is.
Besides, if Kerry talks about it, maybe, just maybe the SCLM will report on it.
Oooooh! Gotta go watch Trump on TV.
Hudson |
03.06.04 - 1:16 pm | #
By the way, doesn't a set of plates go fro about $600? (I have $565 in my head for some reason?) That sure sounds like a tax-cut for two, to me.
"Here's your tax rebate. Oh, you'd like to protect your daughter in Iraq? Do you have $600?" Nice. Really compassionate conservative.
Hudson |
03.06.04 - 1:20 pm | #
commuter, time will tell who's right and who's wrong. People in the Bush administration require several changes of underwear every day.
Being saddled with Bush for four more years is just a bad dream.
I'm not going anywhere, and Bush is going to lose. That's reality.
You'd be better off if you woke up, too.
pie |
03.06.04 - 1:22 pm | #
commuter sounds familiar...the condescending terms of endearment...the broadside "all of you are full of shit and have no idea how to win but I do, even though I'm not going to tell you" claims, the selective quoting of other posters....I wonder who this poster, new to this board who yet seems to be so aware of "herd mentality" and what posters here think could be...I wonder...I wonder....who *could* it possibly be?
Jennifer |
03.06.04 - 1:27 pm | #
I like the "aWol/Chenron. protecting America from terrorism since 9.12.01" stickers
preznit giv me turkee |
03.06.04 - 1:37 pm | #
Commuter,
As my daughter sez "Sucks2BU."
R. Egg Onian |
03.06.04 - 1:47 pm | #
3000 people were burned to death in New York, because Clinton didn't invade Afghanistan after Bin Laden killed American after American. Year after year. It took Bush to root out this scum. Kerry is a pacifist and against capital punishment. Whoa, the terrorists are shaking in fear.
Ricky Vandal |
Homepage |
03.06.04 - 1:54 pm | #
Kerry needs to have a surrogate on tv all the time reminding people of this ..
the man for this job
is Gen. Wes Clark.
smartone |
Homepage |
03.06.04 - 1:56 pm | #
Countless thousands were spared death in terrorist attacks on 2/1/00 because Clinton didn't ignore the threat of terrorism. 3,000 died on 9/11/01 because Bush did. And Osama is still at large.
Jennifer |
03.06.04 - 1:57 pm | #
whoops, that should be 1/1/00.
Also, imagine the outraged screeches of the GOP peeping toms had Clinton invaded Afghanistan. "Wag the dog! Wag the dog! There's no danger there, he's just trying to distract attention from where his penis has been!"
Jennifer |
03.06.04 - 1:59 pm | #
I wonder who this poster, new to this board who yet seems to be so aware of "herd mentality" and what posters here think could be...I wonder...I wonder....who *could* it possibly be?
Jennifer, Hunter nailed *Anonymous* last night:
And there, finally, we have the admission of the obvious truth; your posts are not attempts at debate or expressions of conviction, but merely belligerent arm-waving for the sake of the argument, of a sort well-known to most of us familiar with the pre-web Internet. You are just here for an argument; any ostensible topic will do.
So I take it back; you apparently are a troll, of the most common and utterly banal sort. Like a loud, belligerent drunk at a party, standing six inches from other people's faces and listing the ways in which they should better themselves in your reddened eyes.
Could it be he? He did his usual drap job on the NYT thread. He presented no argument to back up his position at all; he just criticized everyone else. He was called on it there, too.
Hmmmm |
03.06.04 - 1:59 pm | #
Hey Ricky,
About your obsession for pasty-faced Jenna: You do realise what contempt she would have for you if someone ever directed her to your pathetic site? Her and her alcoholic girlfriends would bust their guts open. You have no desire particular for Jenna for Jenna's own sake though; rather, you think it would be cool to have daddy-in-law be president. But you know what? The Bush family are aristocrats. They don't mix with with the likes of you. You are riff-raff, detritus, worthless peons to them. Did you even know that?
Magnum |
03.06.04 - 2:00 pm | #
Vandal,
Seems more like the RNC is shaking in fear. They can't even come up with a coherent response for the points Kerry raised.
They're moving to get anti-Bush ads declared illegal and removed from the air.
They're calling 21,000 jobs per month 'turning the corner.'
They're so far in denial they may never burrow their way out.
Tell me again how the RNC has got a handle on any of this.
Oh, and Kerry's got medals for conduct in VietNam. Bush has a bagful of lame excuses.
Must suck to be a Bush apologist today.
stranger |
Homepage |
03.06.04 - 2:03 pm | #
Kerry needs to steal that one for his next speech.
Nickname |
03.06.04 - 2:06 pm | #
I just visited Ricky's web site.
Oh. My. God.
You're so lame! You loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooves Jenna.
Oh, and FYI, Magnum, the parrot on the Royal Navy ship had the good sense to keep its beak shut.
TheaLogie |
03.06.04 - 2:50 pm | #
I wonder who this poster, new to this board who yet seems to be so aware of "herd mentality" and what posters here think could be...I wonder...I wonder....who *could* it possibly be?
Heh. I too noticed that familiar odor of brain decay.
Blind allegiance to blatant liars (combined no doubt with copious amounts of alcohol to ease the process) has this way of atrophying the brain I guess.
Thumb |
03.06.04 - 2:57 pm | #
if i were ricky i'd be a little more worried what dad might say about his homage vs. jennas' ridicule. can any body say Hinckley. on the other hand J.A. is tied up with a serious tummy ache so maybe they won't catch it.
52 to 39 in illinois? i know it's only march but that's gotta be 'causing rover some headaches. "move over john, you ain't the only one hurtn', i feel a serious migraine coming on"
Rock the Vote / JFK in 04
dumonki |
03.06.04 - 5:11 pm | #
ECCE MEMO:
HE CARES MORE ABOUT HIS SAUDI FRIENDS THAN ABOUT THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN LIVES
HE CARES MORE ABOUT HIS SAUDI FRIENDS THAN ABOUT THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN LIVES
HE CARES MORE ABOUT HIS SAUDI FRIENDS THAN ABOUT THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN LIVES
According to my Tinfoil Hat RR buddy, the new RRtalking point is that the 9/11 Families arent really mad at Bush at all, and anyway they're all spewing DNC talking points in coordinated efforts to defame Dear Leader.
I didn't hear it, but supposedly a Liberal woman called Flush Rumble's show, claimed to ba a lifelong Repub, and started telling about the 9/11 Families hating Bush, and Flush was all over her, laughing at the whole idea. According to my friend, "it was all so tranparent, it was really laughable". De Nile is way more than merelay a famous river in Egypt.....
goober |
03.06.04 - 5:33 pm | #
Ricky's right. I mean, don't we all remember George W. Bush's ringing campaign slogan, "Invade Afghanistan Now! Osama Must Be Stopped!" His many speeches calling attention to Bill Clinton's failure to attack the Taliban after "death after death, year after year" owing to al-Qaida? And how, on his first day in office, he ordered the Pentagon to launch its attack against that South Asian nation. I'm sure Ricky does, in those sweet moments just after the needle slides into the skin, and Ricky loosens the loop of surgical tubing tied just above his elbow.
Brian C.B. |
03.06.04 - 5:35 pm | #
I heard Coulter say that the 9/11 families aren't really angry on CNN the other day. She said they were 'trotted out' to 'recite DNC talking points.'
stranger |
Homepage |
03.06.04 - 5:36 pm | #
Seth nails it in one sentence.
damn |
03.06.04 - 5:43 pm | #
"Kerry is a pacifist"
Really? I bet the Viet Cong fighter he personally shot to protect his men would've been surprised to hear that.
Ivytree |
03.06.04 - 6:04 pm | #
Can someone explain the logic of the Bush commercials to me? I mean, I'm a really smart guy, and I don't get it:
"OK, so, we got attacked. It was our job to keep it from happening, but we didn't really understand it or take it seriously. You know, shit happens--people make mistakes. But now that we see the threats for what they are you just HAVE to trust us to make you safe."
....
Hudson | Email | Homepage | 03.05.04 - 10:15 am
Wouldn't it be nice if someone re-ran the Bush ad with the above as a new voice-over?
Militant Agnostic |
03.06.04 - 6:17 pm | #
commuter, exactly what the f*ck reason should we give a shit about why they're there?
Please tell me is it one of the excuses that Bush shits out everytime the prior one f*cking goes bust under even the slightest microscopic scrutiny?
1. WMD?
2. Ties to Osama and terrorists?
3. Refusal to submit to UN mandates to disarm?
4. Saddam?
5. Saddam is a bad man thus he must go?
6. Saddam is a very bad man whom my father and my secretary of defense f*cking treated like a member of the f*cking family while brain-dead Reagan was off sucking jellybeans?
7. The poor, poor swarthy people of Iraq?
8. Freedom and democracy(except in Haiti)?
Or should we go to the secret list?
1. Demonstration of power
2. PNAC Need for Mid' East military presence, so we could evacuate from Saudi Arabia and extend our GOP penis size?
3. Oil
4. Military industrial complex's need for more money and power through military spending increases to help my daddy's Carlye investment portfolio before he dies due to wimpitus?
5. Saddam tried to kill daddy.
6. Saddam's still in power while my daddy's almost pushing up daisies.
7. I've got to get over the sodomizing initiation rituals they forced me to undertake to get into Skull & Bones to please daddy cause he was good at taking it up the ass when he joined!
8. All of the freaking above!!
MYOB, i like the secret list. especially #7. maybe kerry shoved a paddle up his ass back in the yalie days. i know that's an unseemly image. of course i don't really care, just as long as he does it in NOV.
dumonki |
03.06.04 - 7:46 pm | #
One can watch just this one thread and note at all the fantastic reasons that you folks offer for why Bush will lose and get an immediate sense of why he will clobber Kerry.
FYI: I did not comment here before yesterday. I normally read and comment on sites like tacitus where the democrats can put together rational arguments without the rhetorical excess and without carrolling the myths that you folks here seem to think validates your paronoias. Every person coming by to rattle your cages is not the same person. I imagine this joint is stirred up fairly regularly by different people just for amusement.
commuter |
03.07.04 - 12:31 pm | #
Well, "commuter", there's this thing called "forensic linguistics". People who are good with languages can recognize patterns of language usage in individuals. And some of your patterns are all too familiar. As is your admission that you're trying to stir things up "just for amusement." So either you are who we think you are, or there's a Troll Handbook of Language Usage floating around out there that we haven't seen.
In either case it makes no difference whether it's one stupid troll or 20 stupid trolls trying to stir the pot here for their "amusement", since if that's the level at which you (they) operate, there's little that could be said or done to reduce you (them) to an even lower level of pathos. I can't think of anything short of Bush getting elected (or stealing it again) and ripping off the mask so that even die-hard dumbasses like you (they) can see what's underneath that would do it. And since that of course would be bad for the rest of us who aren't die-hard dumbasses, I'm going to do all I can to see it doesn't happen, even if it will unfortunately help you (them) as a side effect.
Jennifer |
03.07.04 - 2:32 pm | #
You have your head so far up your ass you must roll.
I'm not who you think I am. And I doubt there's any handbook. The fantasies here are immediately obvious to any casual observer, and the reaction to the fantasies undoubtedly universal amusement.
commuter |
03.07.04 - 5:03 pm | #
Kerry is tall and ghoulish troll-like humanoid , anything with 2 legs can outsmart that stupid chimp W. The Tsunami is coming, and vote levers will make a flush sound that signals the Bush league's end of tenure.
Bush/Orwell 04 will lose. Bush/Nader 04 will lose.
Bush/Carlysle 04 will lose.
Bush/Steroids 04 will lose.
Bush/Tax Cut 04 will lose.
Now if you'll excuse me there is a free speech zone I am going to today, to chant "FOUR MORE WARS!" at...
Latest poll data- Bush 38.5%, Mullets 39.5%...
Bush 38.5%, Bush Sr 39.5%...
Dole/Viagra ticket would get more votes this year.
Larry King in drag would get more votes.
Janet Reno is polling better right now than shrub and a more convincing cowboy.
Bush 38.5%, pro wrestling 40% and climbing in comparison...
Trolls were great in the hobbit, move on.org back to your subterranean lair... we have a Democracy to uphold and preserve.
Mr.Murder |
03.08.04 - 3:16 am | #
It's simple, really. The Republican reputation for being strong on defense will not work for them in an election unless they have a boogey man to defend all of us from. If they really provided the security they claim to, the terrorist threat would already be neutralized, we would all feel safe, and voting for strong-on-defense Republicans would become less compelling in the face of domestic issues.
So far, keeping America in a constant state of fear only plays to perceived Republican strengths.
If the Democrats can demonstrate that Republicans are weak on defense, the Emmanuel Goldstein trick will backfire on them. It won't look good for the Democrats, either, but it would dispel the myth that Republicans make us safer by definition.
Informis |
03.08.04 - 10:04 am | #
Can someone explain the logic of the Bush commercials to me? I mean, I'm a really smart guy, and I don't get it...
As Informis pointed out, the Republicans want to maintain a constant state of fear, so people will vote for them for protection.
This has been the Republican scam for over 40 years: Since they don't do anything useful to the average citizen, they need a boogey man they can claim to be defending us against.
From the 1960s to the 1980s, they used "communism" as the boogey man. After the fall of the Soviet Union, they couldn't use that one anymore, so they used "drug dealers".
This was a natural focus for their propaganda since it was discovered about that time that the CIA had been importing cocaine into the US to fund the terrorists (contras) attacking Nicaragua. The anti-drug stance also helped to cleanse their image.
The "drug dealer" boogey man wasn't as effective as communism. Bush (I) lost, Clinton won, and the Republicans switched to their current boogey man: "terrorists".
Knowing how the propaganda of these parasites works gives insights on the best ways to counter it.
Alan8 |
03.08.04 - 12:56 pm | #