If they were honest, perhaps they'd have Karl Rove against a blank screen, saying "I wake up every morning and thank my pagan gods for 9-11."
covington |
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03.06.04 - 11:00 am | #
This "hands-off" approach of the conservatives is getting stale. They run for political office while pretending to despise "big government." If something goes wrong on their watch, it's the fault of an unnamed someone deep in the "bowels" of the bureaucracy. Nothing is ever their fault, you see, because they really want nothing to do with government. If only that were the case, the country would be much better off.
TownDrunk |
03.06.04 - 11:04 am | #
Bush has "steady leadership?" What happens when there is a pretzel in the room?
George Johnston |
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03.06.04 - 11:07 am | #
The Onion rocks. And they've been amazingly accurate at painting our strange new reality.
Alex |
03.06.04 - 11:12 am | #
Don't forget this prophetic Onion piece from before Bush's inauguration:
Yeah, give him another chance where he doesn't have to worry about being reelected and you'll get to see what it looks like when these hardcore facist thugs really put the boots to what's left of this here democratic experiment.
Pinky Tinkleton |
03.06.04 - 11:39 am | #
Does The Onion have a time machine or something?
If so could they do us the favor and tell us who won in Nov '04 so I can plan whether or not to move to New Zealand.
Gryn |
03.06.04 - 11:41 am | #
Better yet
Captainfancypants |
03.06.04 - 11:43 am | #
My first concern is whether the Dems will have the balls to be 'Bush-like' in their 'boldness' to run attack ads.
If there was ever a time to put aside the civility of the past and start running them this is it.
My second, and most important concern, is whether the networks will air the ads? Considering what we have seen so far, there appears to be a willingness to allow Bush ads but not opposing ads.
I have to wonder whether we are going to see local affiliates reject airing ads they deem offensive to the president? Whether stations in the south, or rural areas where there are lots of racists, are going to air the ads.
I want to know what excuses they are going to use, and the tactics the republithugs are going to use to aid them in rejecting the ads?
Are they going to pull out the 'attacking the president in time of war is treason' excuse?
My nephew was killed at the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001. He was a police officer. His last transmission was from the 87th floor of the South Tower just minutes before it collapsed. A loving and devoted family man, his wife still grieves for him, his three children are growing up without him in sadness and anger. His parents still grieve; his father will never get over this loss. Our large and diverse family has been torn apart: there are those of us who harbor profound anger and bitterness at the Bush Administration for its failure and subsequent cover-up; on the other side are those in our family who still like and trust GWB.
I cannot describe the pain and anger I feel about GWB exploiting the grief of my family. The horror of GWB standing on the grave of my nephew, whose body was never found, triumphantly extolling his leadership, when, as my nephew was being pulverized, he ran for cover like a scared little rabbit, is beyond description. I am shaking with anger even as I write.
What did they know? What are they hiding? The stonewalling of every investigation should be shouted from the tallest mountain. Why is the media complicit in hushing this up? Are they so afraid of losing their profits that they continue to apologize for this disaster of an Administration?
Survivor |
03.06.04 - 11:59 am | #
Survivor,
The answer is simple: The truth is as bad as you imagine.
My deepest and most sincere sympathy to you and your family.
cosmic grappler |
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03.06.04 - 12:07 pm | #
shorter Bush ad.
'This time we will stay awake at the helm'
pansypoo |
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03.06.04 - 12:22 pm | #
That sounds more like an admission that he's a total fuckup. Sheesh. Why give him four more years to fuck things up even more? That just doesn't make sense. Then again, he is a complete idiot.
Abiel |
03.06.04 - 12:27 pm | #
Athenae, Cosmic Grappler,
I appreciate it.
One might really wonder about the truth. For example, the investigation into the Columbia disaster one year ago met as much cooperation as would be expected, the events and failures were, as far as I know, fully vetted, and a full report was already released. As unspeakably tragic as that event was, at least we don't suffer the pain and indignity of official stonewalling and tap-dancing upon the graves of the fallen.
I wish I could contribute a louder voice, but it would cause too much pain for my family.
Survivor |
03.06.04 - 12:35 pm | #
God, I love the onion.
patriotboy |
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03.06.04 - 12:35 pm | #
The ads would be great if he was running for his first term. The problem with them is he keeps saying he knows what the country needs - he's been in there 4 years. Why wasn't he DOING these things for the past 4 years? Kerrys best option for TV ads would be to run bush's ads side by side with reality. What's being said in the W ads now has very little to do with reality.
Michael |
03.06.04 - 12:36 pm | #
Give Bush his due; when it comes to refusing oral sex, he may be the GREATEST PRESIDENT IN AMERICAN HISTORY, though you have to wonder who would be offering.
EvilJunglePrince |
03.06.04 - 12:43 pm | #
Memes and dirty campaigning.
Here's an idea... we're in one of those times where both the law and the tools of enforcement of the law have fallen far behind technology and sociological phenomena. It's all around us, from spam to... campaigning.
Imagine the cruelest, most below the belt, completely untrue things that were said about, for instance, John McCain during the South Carolina primary, or Max Cleland in his race against Saxbee Chambliss. The lies were spread anonymously, but in a well-organized and orchestrated campaign, through the conduit of every emailing and NewsMax reading dittohead who first got rumors of them off talk radio. Blast faxes, anonymous mailings, push-polls and far worse were used to spread absolute lies.
But since there was no return address, and since the republicans in charge of any investigations laugh at the idea they would want to do anything about it, they got away with it and it gave us the insane fools we have in office now.
If that was last time, what's going to happen this time? It will be the most brutal election since the civil war, and it will likely be mostly one-sided. On the other hand, imagine if some clever folks created a series of short film parodies of Bush, straight out of Saturday Night Live, with Rove, Cheney and Bush giggling and high-fiving each other as they watch the WTC fall, immediately realizing that Bush could steal a false legitimacy by taking advantage of the nation's shock, grief and anger, and Rumsfeld sending out his memo, as he really did on September 11, 2001, announcing his intention to use the attacks as cover to invade Iraq. If they were slick enough, disturbing enough, and had enough bitter humor, they'd be forwarded around like the viruses they are. As parodies of public figures unaffiliated with any campaign, they are protected free speech.
They'd become part of the mental context of the election, without ever hitting the news media, the television, or newspapers. Or, like the Kerry-Fonda doctored photo, they'd enter the mainstream media through stories about them. Rather than have any organization responsible for them, as Moveon.org was for their ads, the call to create and disseminate the ads would just percolate like the ads themselves, through the blogosphere.
The Onion, Mark Fiore and Tom Tomorrow are already out there doing this, but I suspect there's a far broader pool of talent. Where they are creative on a daily basis, surely most of us have one good political cartoon or short film in us, don't we?
Just create it, and start emailing it to your friends. The mental virus does the rest.
covington |
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03.06.04 - 12:46 pm | #
Thanks for linking to that ad, Brondo - that is great.
covington |
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03.06.04 - 12:55 pm | #
I tell you Atrios, I'd buy that T-shirt: Bush-Cheney 2004: Give us another chance!
Kevin |
03.06.04 - 1:02 pm | #
The Onion didn't write that as a parody. Isn't that an excerpt from the actual speech that Bush gave when he took the white house over after the Clinton administration?
I'm almost certain it is. Could somebody do a little Googling and find out?
Mooser |
03.06.04 - 1:14 pm | #
MYOB: "My second, and most important concern, is whether the networks will air the ads? Considering what we have seen so far, there appears to be a willingness to allow Bush ads but not opposing ads."
Good point! Remember the ad showing Newt Gingerich saying "We're going to let it wither on the vine" about Medicare? The Repugs claimed he wasn't talking about Medicare, and the TV stations refused to air it, claiming they feared being sued. Of course this was just an excuse not to air it, because the stations are owned by conservatives. Look for them to use this tactic again this year.
Riesz Fischer |
03.06.04 - 1:31 pm | #
"The president of this country will be held accountable for his promises, starting Jan. 20 of next year."
The cynic in me hears the fluttering sound of pigs' wings.
TheaLogie |
03.06.04 - 1:33 pm | #
BTW, how do you post in italics?
Riesz Fischer |
03.06.04 - 1:35 pm | #
"What did they know? What are they hiding? The stonewalling of every investigation should be shouted from the tallest mountain. Why is the media complicit in hushing this up? Are they so afraid of losing their profits that they continue to apologize for this disaster of an Administration?"
Survivor | Email | Homepage | 03.06.04 - 11:54 am | #
As has been commented on by every person who has ever come clean about this administration, everything they do is about politics and ideology. Anything that goes against the ideology must be rejected. Anything that could be used against them politically must be avoided.
It's not that they don't think they would or could be vindicated by the 9/11 commision, it's that they know their political opponents will use whatever negative that comes out against them despite any appearance of a positive.
This applies everywhere. They know that as long as only the positives are highlighted, the negatives cannot be exposed.
This is why we shake our heads in disbelief at their lies. It's like they fear that anything negative, no matter if put into proper perspective, will be used against them politically.
Remember. Ideology and politics rule in this administration. Everything is done to promote them both. Even if it hurts the country in obvious ways.
The Onion didn't write that as a parody. Isn't that an excerpt from the actual speech that Bush gave when he took the white house over after the Clinton administration?
well, even if it isn't word for word what he said in a particular speech, it damn sure hits all the points he was making.
wastlelandusa |
03.06.04 - 1:42 pm | #
I see the Democrats have resorted to fantasy. Butr then again, Kerry who sold his country to the Viet Cong thinks of himself as a war hero. Mindboggling.
Ricky Vandal |
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03.06.04 - 1:50 pm | #
Butr then again, Kerry who sold his country to the Viet Cong thinks of himself as a war hero. Mindboggling.
Ricky Vandal
Prove that statement.
BTW, I know the name of an army recruiter who would like to enlist an adolescent like yourself. Why aren't you in the army?
Survivor |
03.06.04 - 2:00 pm | #
Here's some more commentary on the Bush ads and Kerry's possible responses...
Yes, this is the President of the United States, the son of a VP COngressman, grandson of a US Senator, running as a Washington outsider, fighting against those East Coast Yalie prep-school educated Eastern elites he hates so much.
The guy might be an even bigger pit of self-loathing than Andrew Sullivan!
On top of the sorrow that all of us feel about 9/11, we carry an extra sorrow -- it gives the Bush team something to hang their hopes on.
scorpio |
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03.06.04 - 2:37 pm | #
Survivor, I am sorry for your pain, and for the never ending sense of helplessness and lack of closure you must feel. To all: here is the link for the 9/11 phone, fax, e-mail campaign to get the answers these survivors are entitled to : http://tomflocco.com/modules.php...=showpage&
pid=1
Peg |
03.06.04 - 3:18 pm | #
steady leadership = He really doesn't do very much.
Anonymous |
03.06.04 - 3:28 pm | #
Hey Ricky,
If you spent a day in uniform (Burger King paper hats don't count) I'll let your comment about Kerry slide. If not, you're a coward and liar.
Oh, but being a coward and liar seem to be prerequisites for being Republican these days, so forgive me if you're establishing your future presidential bona fides.
cosmic grappler |
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03.06.04 - 3:32 pm | #
OT:
What happens to Clark, Dean, Edwards, et al. now? They all say they'll do everything they can to help Kerry win, but will the dems use them? I'd like to see the former candidates (the popular ones) continue to make speeches, go on TV, even do ads, in support of Kerry. I hope these guys, who all have large supporters, won't just fade away to try to give Kerry the spotlight. He needs the spotlight, but showing a strongly united democratic party would also be a very good thing and each of the former candidates can play to the audience with whom he is strongest.
dalai |
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03.06.04 - 3:40 pm | #
I see the Democrats have resorted to fantasy. Butr then again, Kerry who sold his country to the Viet Cong thinks of himself as a war hero. Mindboggling.
Actually, we should thank him for reminding us how stuipd and dangerously delusional the other side really is. Perhaps he could be encouraged the spend some time on the Nader support sites.
covington |
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03.06.04 - 4:09 pm | #
Yeah, a guy goes to Vietnam twice, saves a bunch of lives and gets medals for it. I'd call that selling the country out to the Vietcong, alright. LOL
On the other hand, Dumbya wangles his way into the TANG, doesn't finish his time there, and he kept the country safe from the Vietcong how exactly?
Man, this troll has got to be one of the all time dumbest. Smarter monkeys, please.
Tena |
03.06.04 - 4:13 pm | #
What's mindboggling is that about a year ago, an AWOL coward of a deserter would prance about an aircraft carrier in a too-snug flightsuit in front of a "Mission Accomplished" banner, and consider himself a military hero, and consider the whole stunt to make a great re-election PR stunt.
We live in strange days indeed.
renato |
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03.06.04 - 4:17 pm | #
Mystery Date... I'm ready for my Mystery Date...
Ricky Vandal |
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03.06.04 - 4:18 pm | #
Hey Ricky, go tell it to Jimmy Breslin.
if you have the balls that is.
renato |
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03.06.04 - 4:21 pm | #
I find this speech hilarious, really. To me, Bush is saying: "I have fucked everything up so far, but if you vote for me in November, I'll quit fucking things up."
covington: The Onion, Mark Fiore and Tom Tomorrow are already out there doing this, but I suspect there's a far broader pool of talent. Where they are creative on a daily basis, surely most of us have one good political cartoon or short film in us, don't we?
Just create it, and start emailing it to your friends. The mental virus does the rest.
I have the DV and PC end of it. What I lack is actors, writers and sets. I'm in Nashville -- any help, here?
.
Jeffraham Prestonian |
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03.06.04 - 4:25 pm | #
steady leadership = He really doesn't do very much.
Anonymous
aka he's not shitfaced drunk and stumbling/falling down
On the other hand, Dumbya wangles his way into the TANG, doesn't finish his time there, and he kept the country safe from the Vietcong how exactly?
hey, the Viet-Cong never invaded Texas, did they
Man, this troll has got to be one of the all time dumbest. Smarter monkeys, please.
Tena
hmm, maybe ROveCo has started outsourcing trolling
preznit giv me turkee |
03.06.04 - 4:31 pm | #
preznit giv me turkee - I don't know if Roveco has outsourced or not, but if the kind of shit we are seeing out of the campaign so far is what Rove has been working on all this time, then I'd say Ricky Vandal is about on a par.
And the gods know it's a par 3 on a short course.
Tena |
03.06.04 - 4:40 pm | #
As all of you know, Ralph Nader handed George Bush the White House in 2000 and is trying to do it again this time. No doubt the Republican party is financing him.
When he announced, I started to think how I could help neuter him. Being a computer science professor, I began thinking if I could get the Internet to help out. I looked for his web site, which is www.votenader.org (also www.votenader.com). My first reaction was: "Did Ralphie, the aging hippie, do his homework and register all linguistically adjacent domains." Within 30 seconds, I discovered he had not registered www.vote-nader.org or www.vote-nader.com. Now it is too late. I registered
them. Take a look at them. He probably won't like them when he sees them, but he had 4 years to register them. Maybe he didn't have the $20. If this goes to court, it may be important to point out that he could easily have taken them, but was negligent in doing so. Lawyer! s like that word.
Any suggestions for improving vote-nader.org to moi.
My next project is to convince Google that when anyone types "Ralph Nader" they should get www.vote-nader.org (my page) instead of www.votenader.org (his page).
Google gives high rankings to pages with many links to them. In effect, it sees a link to a page as a vote for that page, and the winning page goes on top of the list. The page with the second most links is listed second, etc. At present, www.vote-nader.org is 27th in the Google rankings, but I have already used every trick in the book to get this high and I need your help to get higher.
Here is how you can help with the Neuter Nader project. On all web pages you have control over, add a link saying "Ralph Nader" pointing to "www.vote-nader.org". For example:
A vote for Ralph Nader is a vote for George Bush
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where Ralph Nader is hyperlinked to http://www.vote-nader.org. If you use some web design program, do it the way you know.
If you speak HTML, use this:
The text around the hyperlink doesn't matter. Thus
Don't waste your vote on Ralph Nader. Defeat George Bush. Vote for John Kerry . works just as well and also is one link for John Kerry.
If you want to add the link to a page where it would be inappropriate for anyone (e.g. your boss) to see the text, you can add a link with "Ralph Nader" in the background color, so nobody can see it. The HTML is:
Ralph Nader except you have to replace FFFFFF with the actual background color. If you don't know the background color's numerical value, give me the URL and I will try to fig
lea-p |
03.06.04 - 4:44 pm | #
and I will try to figure it out.
After you have created a modified page, go to
www.google.com/addurl.html
and add your URL with the comment Ralph Nader
Please help. Pass this message on to your Democratic friends. Does anyone know the name of the mailing list for DA in other countries? The more links we get, the higher the ranking and the more people will land on my page instead of Ralphie's.
---Butr then again, Kerry who sold his country to the Viet Cong thinks of himself as a war hero. Mindboggling.
Ricky Vandal
---Prove that statement.
Survivor
-The North Vietnamese general in charge of the military campaign that finally drove the U.S. out of South Vietnam in 1975 credited a group led by Democratic presidential front-runner John Kerry with helping him achieve victory.
In his 1985 memoir about the war, "How we won the war" Gen. Vo Nguyen Giap wrote that if it weren't for organizations like Kerry's Vietnam Veterans Against the War, Hanoi would have surrendered to the U.S. The Vietnam Veterans Against the War encouraged people to desert, encouraged people to mutiny - some used what they wrote to justify fragging officers. John Kerry has blood of American soldiers on his hands. It's as simple as that.
Ricky Vandal |
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03.06.04 - 4:57 pm | #
that is just so exactly his primary meme...
death of irony has left us near speechless...
how much more valuable are the Onion and the Daily Show than the unstirred pile of shit called Mass media...
kei & yuri |
03.06.04 - 5:01 pm | #
Oliver North said it, I believe it, and that settles it.
Ricky Vandal |
03.06.04 - 5:11 pm | #
Ricky, did you actually read Giap's 1985 memoir?
Or are you just parroting something you read at NewsMax or heard on Limbaugh, which in turn are just repeating something Oliver North came up with several years back?
From what I understand, Giap has written books but did not write one in 1985.
renato |
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03.06.04 - 5:17 pm | #
Jay-sus...you actually believe that claptrap? That protest groups led to the US losing the Vietnam War? Christ, not even Nam vets believe that (most of them believe it was the Dept. Of Defense and Pentagon who led to the loss). And, anyway...how is it all Kerry's fault? And wouldn't the blood be on the generals and politicians who sent the soldiers over there to fight in a useless war in the first place?
Jimminy crickets...this guy has got to be yanking our collective chains. No one can be that ball-slappingly stupid.
Dread Pirate Backslider |
03.06.04 - 5:22 pm | #
the book Ricky is referencing came out in 1976 not 1985.
He's just repeating some crap he read at NewsMax.
renato |
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03.06.04 - 5:24 pm | #
Someone should really pour some cold water or something on NewsMax, man. And armchair generals should really quit fighting Vietnam, too. Apart from Ricky's spew - which I've heard before from cats just as thick - the worst one I've heard was from an acquaintence who maintains we actually WON Vietnam. See, how it was is Nixon had a plan to win it using nukes but the mean ol' Democrats wouldn't let him. But we would've won it. So we did.
I told him it sounds like me saying I actually pooned the homecoming queen, even though she turned me down, because I had this really cool plan laid out. I asked my acquaintence where he got that particular fantasy from, and he said "NewsMax, where I get all my news." We don't talk about politics anymore.
Them that keep fighting Nam are almost as irritating as the nitwits who keep fighting the Civil War. Listen, the whole idea behind studying history is to figure out why something happened - and in some cases, prevent it from happening again - not to paint a prettier picture.
Dread Pirate Backslider |
03.06.04 - 5:33 pm | #
If Audie fuckin' Murphy himself were running for President as a Dem, the rightards would find a way to pair him with the VC and Jane Fonda.
There is no depth they won't sink to.
renato |
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03.06.04 - 5:38 pm | #
Man this Ricky guy has been busy in the last couple of days. I've seen him everywhere. As far as the Gaip quote, sorry. But it does give a picture of what those idiots will believe.
lawguy |
03.06.04 - 5:44 pm | #
Gee, if Kerry, who actually went to Vietnam, got a lot of medals, actually killed Vietcong, etc. helped win the war for North Vietnam; how much more help must Chickenhawks George W. Bush and Cheney been to them?
Anonymous |
03.06.04 - 5:47 pm | #
Little Ricky not answering or is he waiting for Ollie to tell him what to say next?
Does anyone remember Ollie North's colleagues Spitz et al. The ones he used to charm the rich, well the rude name for them was fag hags, to give money to the contras so they could murder more peasants in central america? How about his other connections with the gay uniform fanciers? You never hear that brought up, now, do you?
I remember hearing that a bunch of Reagan's fascists used to have parties in drag, Casey among them. How's about that for an interesting rumor?
Anonymous |
03.06.04 - 5:56 pm | #
Ricky,
You're a moron, a coward and now, a plagiarist. You pulled your last post almost word for word from the Newsmax site, including their fuckup with the pub date of Giap's book.
Before you criticize men for their stance on the war, I suggest you learn more about the conflict. I suggest Fire in the Lake, Karnow's Vietnam, A Bright Shining Lie, and The Things They Carried, just for starters.
Then, once you have some historical reference, meet me in DC, I'll buy you a drink, tell you about what it meant for young men to face the draft during war, then we can walk down to The Wall where I'll point out the names of some men who would have been in the VVAW. I know, I was there, and when I came home, the second thing I did was join the VVAW.
If you have to ask what was first, then you're even dumber than I thought.
Now, please, peddle your slander some place else. All you do is show your immaturity and ignorance.
And your Amazon goddess can blow me.
cosmic grappler |
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03.06.04 - 6:00 pm | #
george bush-
steady hand on the fan.
did anyone check to see if his fingers were crossed?
that nader site thingie is fantastic.
though vaguely reptublican.
still, what's important this time is winning, or canada's not far enough away.
though you can tell they're in trouble by the drop in winged-monkey quality.
mamima |
03.06.04 - 6:04 pm | #
Ricky is a coward, not even defending the honor of Ollie. Got wet behind the ears, college Republican written all over himself. Or did he soil his pinny?
Anonymous |
03.06.04 - 6:06 pm | #
Anonymous,
I had dinner about a year ago with an old Marine officer who had served with Ollie in Nam. I was hesitant to ask him anything about North, knowing my politics and the old Jarhead's probably didn't coincide, but after a few drinks I did ask and he got very quiet for a moment, took a deep breath and said, "That son of a bitch got some of my men killed. He cared only about himself."
As it turned out I was right, the old guy's politics were deeply Republican. But the man hated Oliver North. For that, I bought the next round.
cosmic grappler |
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03.06.04 - 6:12 pm | #
My father was a marine, when Ollie testilied in his uniform he was so disguested he made me turn off the TV. He said he should be court martialed for it.
I'm serious about the interesting gay angle, by the way. Being gay and having friends in DC and San Francisco you hear things.
Little Ricky, thought he'd try ,
T o sell the blog his right wing lies
When the adults came to play
Little Ricky ran away.
Anonymous |
03.06.04 - 6:19 pm | #
Anonymous,
It wouldn't surprise me at all of Poindexter and Casey shared a booth at the Georgetown Grill and swooned over how fabulous Ollie looked in his uniform. I believe there are a lot of closet cases with serious power issues in DC - look at the classic couple, Hoover and Clyde Tolson.
cosmic grappler |
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03.06.04 - 6:23 pm | #
I heard tales of parties where Casey was dressed in full elaborage drag. I know it's almost supper time but politics requires a strong stomach. You never hear the Republican establishment questioned about that kind of stuff. I'll add the the rumor was that Ollie himself was seen at some of them. I'm not sure if he was dressed as a WAVE. He'd look rotten in the uniform though.
Anonymous |
03.06.04 - 6:26 pm | #
Well, it looks as though Little Ricky can't stand the heat. I'm going to go mix myself a small libation. Later.
cosmic grappler |
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03.06.04 - 6:28 pm | #
He was on the Atrios Dead thread a while back. He knows he's being abused here, too cowardly to show his face.
Anonymous |
03.06.04 - 6:29 pm | #
Just like his daddy, some people never learn, even with hindsight, thank God!
the kid |
03.06.04 - 6:35 pm | #
--The North Vietnamese general Giap in charge of the military campaign that finally drove the U.S. out of South Vietnam in 1975 credited a group led by Democratic presidential front-runner John Kerry with helping him achieve victory.
--The Viet Cong achieved victory by having Hanoi Long John Kerry and Hanoi Jane and the rest of the VVAW diminish the resolve and support of Americans for the soldiers fighting in Vietnam.
The VC knew that they had to help Kerry by killing soldiers, because the more dead Americans the better Kerry's story would seem. Kerry and other Vietnam War protesters invited the death of American soldiers and used it to their political gain.
--I'm willing to go further. All the liberals and Democrats now screaming about "500 dead American soldiers in Iraq, so bring them home" are aiding the terrorists and inviting them to kill more American soldiers. Terrorists know they can't win on the battlefield. They have to win on American soil. Using the same tactic as the VC. Kill Americans, Democrats will call to pull the troops and thereby diminish the resolve of the nation.
Democrats tell Bush if more soldiers die, you will not be reelected. They invite the terrorists, who want Bush to go, to kill more Americans.
--Again Kerry is inviting enemies to kill American soldiers with his statement that he will pull back the troops from Iraq if he wins the election.
A vote for Kerry is a vote for the enemy. It's as simple as that.
Ricky Vandal |
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03.06.04 - 6:50 pm | #
Ricky, not only are you dumb I don't see how Karl's boilerroom will give you a shift bonus.
American Worker |
03.06.04 - 6:53 pm | #
Ricky, how do you keep the drool from ruining your keyboard?
renato |
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03.06.04 - 7:41 pm | #
Allow me to add a few more memes or bumperstickers:
Bush = unelectable, untrustworthy, out of touch
GWB = America's most dangerous intellegence failure
Enron ethics. Bush ethics. What's the difference?
If George W. said, "I cannot tell a lie," would anyone believe him?
Corporate looters and polluters, take comfort. You've got a friend in the White House.
Bush administration says US jobs to India is a good thing
George W. Bush -- he's too extreme
America needs a president who can walk and chew gum at the same time • Vote Kerry.
"Democrats tell Bush if more soldiers die, you will not be reelected. They invite the terrorists, who want Bush to go, to kill more Americans."
Bush sent the soldiers to go and be killed. Bush said, "Bring it on!" to the terrorists. Bush must want the soldiers to die. Funny thing is, its not terrorists killing soldiers in Iraq, its pissed off Iraqis. We left the terrorist Taliban alone in Afghanistan to regroup and regain power in the south. They are now funding themselves by paying the local populace to produce opium at the highest levels ever. Bush supports terrorists and drug dealers.
Terrorists are not afraid of Bush. Terrorists love Bush. They can see him clearly for what he is: the best recruiting tool that they've ever seen.
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03.06.04 - 8:29 pm | #
It bewilders me why anyone bothers to respond to this honestly self named "Vandal." Ignore him and he has to go away. It's like the idiots who tried to wreck Citizens Band radio by filling it with obscene noise. Once they were ignored, that stopped too.
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03.06.04 - 8:44 pm | #
Bush said today he wants to discuss 9/11 with the American people just not with the Commission set up to study it. Where is the media on fact checking his statements?
He said he wants to study 9/11 --just not for very long or well --why isn't the media asking the questions -if this is his intent why not fully cooperate with the commission he set up.
Instead the media gives him a big fat pass
ann |
03.06.04 - 9:32 pm | #
It's really amazing what's going in the world right now. Iwon't be surprised if Bush wins again. Too many morons in this country? is it that easy to convince them that they are the most valuable people in the world?
isapisa |
03.06.04 - 9:42 pm | #
Back in the “Before Times”,on 10SEP01, Dubya was stumbling along, killing the economy, endangering women the world over, destroying world treaties and generally screwing things up. I wrote a letter to my local paper on 10APR01 calling us a “rogue nation.” Bush & Co were advised repeatedly on Al-Queda. On August 6th they were told that Al-Queda was thinking of flying hi-jacked airplanes into buildings. The worthless Condileeza Rice would later testify that no one “could have predicted that they would try to use a…hijacked airplane as a missile”.
If bush wants a political image from 9/11, he should use his dumb-struck stool perch as he sat in that classroom and reviewed his failure. By the time he came out of hiding, the White House lie machine was reved up, all the bin-Ladens had been flown safely home to Saudia Arabia, and Giuliani had been a hero for days.
We had the world’s support, and bush blew it. Ever wonder why there are no 9/11 convictions anywhere? Because bush doesn’t work well with others. This war against terror is a war of ideas that bush is losing. We need allies and cooperation, bust mostly we need to make a more fair world. A world that rewards participation. We are not doing that.
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03.07.04 - 12:32 am | #
Say - where is John Galt?
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03.07.04 - 1:01 am | #
I this it is sick that he is using 911 for his own gains. Very wrong.
Go to www.witnessreport.com they have a very good article on that.
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03.07.04 - 1:21 am | #
It's like the idiots who tried to wreck Citizens Band radio by filling it with obscene noise. Once they were ignored, that stopped too.
gogol
It's not the same thing. The liberal blogs are under attack from an organized Republican effort to wreck them. Ratfucking, as Nixon's plumbers called it. It becomes increasingly obvious that some of these people are more than amatures. They won't just go away. Besides a lot of useful arguments for our side have come out of these exchanges. As far as the irritation some express with those of us who respond to the Republican's lies, there is the advice from The Band, "take what you need and leave the rest". I'll use the best ammunition against Bushco that can be found.
Nader's Nutters are also increasing their efforts too, and I'm not talking about rational Green Party memebers. They're just like LaRoushe's zombis, they'd drive the world off a cliff for their god man. As far as I'm concerned making them defend the indefensible is the best way to show others what a Republican tool The Blessed Virgin Ralph is.
Besides, making fun of the little toe rags is amusing.
EPT |
03.07.04 - 6:43 am | #
If bush wants a political image from 9/11, he should use his dumb-struck stool perch as he sat in that classroom and reviewed his failure.
Richard
--You mean Clinton's failure. Here you got a president being attacked for YEARS by a well known terrorist Bin laden hanging out in a well known place Afghanistan, but he does NOTHING. Result: Al Qaida has time to plan, train and fund the Twin Tower massacres. NO, it was Clinton's inactivity that caused 9-11. When Bush invaded Afghanistan Al Qaida imploded in a few hours. Clinton could have done that and saved 3000 American. But no, Clinton is a pacifist. Like Cut and Run Kerry, who is also against CAPITAL PUNISHMENT. We are being besieged by terrorists trying to cut out throat, but Hanoi Long John is against capital punishment. No wonder our enemies love Cut and Run Kerry. A vote for Kerry is a vote for the enemy. It's as simple as that.
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03.07.04 - 6:58 am | #
Little Ricky, still at it or did the next Republican trollete not change the name in the little box above.
How bout Ollie and his boyfriend Spitz C.? Nothing to say about the shit in a marine uniform you drool over?
EPT |
03.07.04 - 7:02 am | #
Not answering, Ricky Chicky? Sort of like Georgie didn't answer the call for the war he supported, huh?
EPT |
03.07.04 - 7:05 am | #
Yup, you can dress a little piece of twink in leather and he might soap a few windows but he's still just a Republican chicken.
The Onion, spot on as usual.
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Tragedy?
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