I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
oh canada,you kid u
what hosers, eh?
Eh? what aboot it? I love Canada!!
At the same time as the Canadian government was refusing to go along with the war in Iraq, the right wing in Canada was heavily critizing the government over refusing to take Bush's word for the "threat". Interestingly enough, the same right wingers didn't say anything about how Canada had demanded, over British objections, to send troops to Afganistan.
And here I thought it was because we marched in the freezing cold streets of every major Canadian city chanting, singing and celebrating peace.
Ho hum... It comes down to intelligence. Go figure!
Once again, just another indication of the deceit that this adminsitration rutinely engages in. Let's face it, Kerry is right, they are, you know, a bunch of liers.
republicans, brave PowerPoint Warriors
This is news!?
rook's right, they're crooked liars
You'd be surprised how effective PowerPoint presentations (even when there's a lack of evidence) can be, given the right lighting, ambience, and, of course, a full frontal lobotomy.
"It's not so bad, Homer. They go in through your nose and they let you keep the piece of brain they cut out. Look!"
Re-Neducation for everyone!
Many of us in the United States were, similarly, waiting for the evidence to be presented. "Trust us," it was implied.
The evidence never came.
Those who protested going to war based on false assumptions and no evidence were branded traitors.
Thanks goodness for the Candians, the Germans, the Russians, the French, and people of good conscience everywhere.
Now that the lie has been exposed, what are the consequences????
Why do canadians hate power point slide shows?
Well, what can I say. Every journalist involved in this fraud should just kill themselves in shame.
I gotta agree with you there. Unfortunately my cat is more likely to stand up and recite Shakespeare than any of the press admit they were wrong.
In the meantime I'm liking canadians more and more. It's good to know there are some sensible people in government in North America, even if they aren't in our country.
Who can trust these clowns? Especially now that we find out relatives of top Bush staffers are spies for Iraq.
Traitors! Stalinists! Hippie-homos! Bazoomba! Zprumphkjk! Hapzbab!
Feh. The day Powell gave his dog and pony at the U.N. was the day I knew the Bushies had squat on Iraq's alledged WMDs and were only pretending to have evidence of same.
They didn't want to share it because Bush thought that Canadians were dark-skinned with bushy eyebrows.
"I don't understand how dark-skinned people think."
Canadians 1, PowerPoint Rangers 0.
It's funny how many Bush defenders still claim that it doesn't matter that there was no evidence of WMD's.
cheney_usa : I am STILL laughing over that disclaimer on the advertisements. Thank you. Is there someone who can use that in a power point presentation? I'll watch!
I bet those Powepoint slides had all the animations and soundeffects:
explosions
machine guns
planes landing on air craft carriers
wild eyed swarthy guys with knives in their teeth
animation of money falling out of the sky to dancing fat white guys in suits.
"and up through the ground came a bubbling crude, oil that is, Texas tea."
I wonder if it included a final slide: "Questions?"
I'm under a gag order. I can't stop gagging.
Feh. The day Powell gave his dog and pony at the U.N. was the day I knew the Bushies had squat on Iraq's alledged WMDs and were only pretending to have evidence of same.
Me too. I never figured out why the press was all "it was so powerful!! Powell is so cool!!" All I could think was that asshat had drank the kool-aid and had joined the dark side.
"At least twice President George W. Bush's advisers said they would come to Ottawa "to present the case" for war, says this Ottawa official, who worked with Mr. Chrétien on the Iraq file in the Prime Minister's Office."
Its like a bad horror movie,when the aliens invade and they have to make personal contact to "convert" you.
I for one would NEVER have any contact with this bunch of "crooks and liars" I mean what if they ARE aliens and they REALLY do want to "take over earth"?
Ronald Reagan: "Trust, but Verify".
Those three words could have stopped those cheap-suited carpetburn-teabaggers.
In all seriousness, I am enraged. I have been for two years straight.
For God's sake. They were so full of shit from the get go about Iraq. And when I and everyone else who wasn't nuts said so, we were called loonies and traitors.
Sheeit, I chose my nick because it's all about venting rage.
Frankly, I am a Bush hater. Frankly, he deserves it.
Savage yawp!
If anyone should off themselves for the sake of shame, let it be Paul Martin, whose main concern was getting a piece of the contractual pie.
I certainly hope that Chetien is finally enjoying his 'BC bud' about now.
canada is just a focus group.
Hey Saltwater, he still has a while yet before its legal. In the meantime he can use his pepperspray for seasoning.
I for one would NEVER have any contact with this bunch of "crooks and liars" I mean what if they ARE aliens and they REALLY do want to "take over earth"?
smalfish
I've come to the conclusion that even if David Icke isn't literally correct, he is metaphorically 100% on the money. They are aliens who feel no kinship with us, are obsessed with ceremony and hierarchy, and thrive on the misery of our children.
It's funny how many Bush defenders still claim that it doesn't matter that there was no evidence of WMD's.
bad Jim
yeah, I got into a long discussion with one the other day, he said that it would take 3k US dead and $500B before he'd agree it was a bad idea for us to take Saddam out
I really knew for sure that it was bogus last March when the Niger bullshit was exposed in the New Yorker by Sy Hersh. We've been told since then on the subject about the "British intelligence" which prevents the "16 words" in the SOTU from being an outright lie - but they failed to present this to the IAEA as called for in UNSCR 1441. What is the punishment for Washington's violation of a UNSC resolution?
CBC Radio was a wonderful resource at the time. Quiet, measured, not willing to go for anything without evidence -- basically everything the BBC World Service purports to be, only with an Arts Report and hog futures. 
After Powell's Stepin Fetchit job at the UN, it was obvious that the scumboys had nothing. Unfortunately, from the way that even NPR sold it, the media here were just dazzled. Thank God for CBC, BBC, and the blogs.
preznit, are you fucking serious?
Wow, if we had only evolved a bodypart that could take emprical evidence and simple extrapolations and reasonable weighing of risk/reward in order to make some kindof, I guess I have to coin a phrase (they understand that part, coin), "common sense" maybe, look into the future.
Sometimes I wonder if they get surprised when it is dark at night. "What the hell!?!?!"
Another fuckup for Faithbased Intelligent Design.
Southpaw, we do not use racial epitaphs here:
Niger is now called Africa-Africa.
And Southpaw, I will now call you Mr. Sinister, because the devil is left-handed.
Ok ya'll got me...I was one of those that was sold on the WAR.I saw all the newsies jabbering at me and I heard the prez say mushroom cloud and even tho I was quite leery about the fact they wouldnt come out and show us the evidence I got sucker punched.I did'nt know anything at the time about this wonderfull technology of the internet search feature called google.I was blind deaf and stupid I admit.
Luckily I had had enough when they didnt find the perported WMD.I got out the trusty computer and started looking for answers.Sure enough they were hidden in plain sight.
Yesterday I could'nt spell Internet....today I is internet.
Thank you Eschaton.Thank you calpundit.Thank you GWB for opening my eyes to the world around me,you fucking idiot I hate you!Without you i would still be clueless today I AM SAVED!! (Can I get an AMEN??)
I agree with Adam Yoshida while he was still coherent...isn't he calling the White House Zprumphkjk Hapzbabs? I mean Canadians don't have bush-y eyebrows, right? Or are those the Bazoombas? (But hippie-homos are native Californians).
Send the PowerPoint Rangers across the Tigris first, to soften the target.
The true north strong and free!
Eh? Men? OK.
I love Canada. And, I have been seriously considering moving there should GWB win in November. With two teenage boys... and Wolfie/Cheney/Perle visions of never ending war...
I feel a 'draft' in here.
Anyway, I checked out what was required to move to Canada from one of their websites a while ago. They must have had a few people inquiring. They have an online test asking various questions (education, finances, bilingual, job offer in Canada etc.).
They had recently upped the required score to 75 from 67.
I scored 70.
Time to sign up for French lessons...
Ouch.
Hmmm... This is not a mere joke.
For a "senior Canadian official" to come right out and say the words "They didn't have any evidence" (and on the front page of the Globe & Mail, no less) is a decision with serious implications. It seems that Canada now sees no benefit in lending support to the Bush mythmaking enterprise.
This is a brutal poke in the Washington beehive, especially coming from "boring but nice" Canada.
I guess that is as clear an answer (in diplomatic terms, of course) as the Bushmen are going to get to their existential question:
"What foreign leaders are supporting John Kerry in November ?"
"Breaking news", indeed !
To all you Canadians up there in the Great White North.
I'm REALLY sorry that GWB is the President, and when his sorry ass is kicked out of the People's White House later this year, I hope that the People and Government of Canada will once again be our friend and neighbor.
Good one, Bob.
Perhaps it's thoughts of Franco-Canadian cuisine that brings this to mind, but how high must the heat get in the oven before the frogs realize that they are on the menu?
And by "ovens", I am obliquely refering to those of Topf & Sons.
Hitchens once wrote a book called "No One Left To Lie To". He said nothin about Canadians.
My dad (a hawkish Canadian, sad but true) kept trying to convince me that the Bushistas had evidence hidden in their pockets somewhere, anywhere, before that misadventure started. I think he's seen the light, now. (He wasn't really happy with me when I pointed out that this Iraq adventure-cum-invasion was just another in a long, long series of same.)
I knew all along they had shit, and shit for brains. Living outside the Great US Media Bubble makes this a little easier, though.
Further along in the article:
This official, who has been privy to many sensitive intelligence reports, said U.S. reports "always seem to have a sales element to them."
And isn't that what the Rethugs have made of all of government and diplomacy--a traveling medicine show trying to sell snake oil to the rubes.
" but how high must the heat get in the oven before the frogs realize that they are on the menu?"
UMM actually,If you put frogs in a pot of boiling water they will instintivly jump out..but.. if you put them in a pot of cold water and turn up the heat they wont know any better.
OT: I just barely caught a clip on CNN that the FBI wants the authority to be able to read all e-mails?!?!?
WTF!!!
It's funny how many Bush defenders still claim that it doesn't matter that there was no evidence of WMD's.
bad Jim
No, it's not funny. It feels me with rage like I wanna go all postal or Korean legislator and flay them like Jesus.
This is just another example of the state of the economy as illuminated in my previous post in the consumer sentiment thread. Sales jobs are all we have to offer.
Thank you for that clarification, smalfish, but I was attempting to allude to the fact that the supposed impropriety of comparrisons between the Bush administration and the Third Reich is in fact a matter of calling a spade an ace of spades.
Poll of the day.
56% of respondents think bin Laden's death/capture will be staged for Tipsy's benefit - this is in Cleveland!
"OT: I just barely caught a clip on CNN that the FBI wants the authority to be able to read all e-mails?!?!?"
When I find myself in times of trouble, PKZ, he comes to me, speaking words of wisdom, "PGP, PGP!"
See HERE for my personal cryptography page with all sorts of crypto links, as well as my PGP public key.
Look, it's quite obvious now that it will soon be time very for the folks here to stop pouring champagne over their heads and start thinking seriously about the next game of the series - how the USA is going to dig itself out of the deep latrenehole GWB pushed us into. Kerry is not going to have a fun time for the next four years (maybe that's why he looks so glum all the time.) He won't have a majority in Congress until 06 at the earliest, and the Repugs that are left are going to be bitterly defensive about the shame this administration has caused. Bush is toast, I'll bet big money on that. It don't matter if he's got a billion in his reelect fund, he's a loser. But now we've got to move on and start to offer sane ideas on how to fix things again.
Jeez, I sound like my dad. I didn't drink enough tonight, I guess.
Canada is being our friend in the same way the Allies-think about this for a minute, think about it-were the true friends of the German people in WWII: thus Generalissimo Por Vida Arbusto (GoPVA?) will soon find an "imminent threatening immigrant permeability dilemma" which must be dealt with immediately, lest there be an "imminence gap", and so it will become our 51st State.
"Historically, Canada has always been part of the US!"
You know there has actually been a drive to conquer it all through our history? We wasted a massive amount of our army in the Revolutionary War trying to steal Montreal. We tried for a while there to take Canada every time we went to war somewhere else. Gore Vidal calls it "the eternal dream", which is hilarious until you realize he's not exagerrating.
Sheesh Chris Tucker, your always spamming this site with your lame geek apps and sites.
Go buy some banner ads.
It's such a shame that Kerry is going to win this election. If he lost, I was going to move back to Montreal, my favorite city... Guess I'll have to stick around and help with the reconstruction.
Democracy is coming... to the USA. (Leonard Cohen, another great Montrealer.)
OT -
I caught several minutes of Dennis Miller's show tonight. OMG ! Is this the new 2 minutes of hate, the remix? What a bizarre show! At the end, he announced the next week's show, then mocked them! Including Bishop Desmond Tutu! I was just amazed.
Chris: Yes, everyone should have PGP installed and use it consistently.
Tecla, I have seen the Miller show also and it is the wierdest show i've seen. Its like he can't decide if he wants to be like the Daily Show or the O'reilley factor. The lame jokes combined with a lack of an audience or laugh track is kind of confusing and gives the feeling that your the only one in the country who's watching the show, which you probably are. I hope they take that garbage off the air. He's not funny enough for comedy and not smart enough for commentary.
Strangely OT: But March 11th bombings in Madrid are exactly 911 days since Sept. 11 2001. Now tell me that it's not Al Queda fundamentalist freaks.
OT: I just barely caught a clip on CNN that the FBI wants the authority to be able to read all e-mails?!?!?
WTF!!!
This isn't my America
The NSA already does. The FBI is just having yet another moment where it wants to take over all of the NSA's operations.
MSR: 912 days, actually. Pity for numreology, but it's a leap year. Anyway, evidence seems to indicate people trying to emulate AQ.
Why try and emulate AQ?
Why would a terrorist organization not want to take credit for the bombings?
Smalfish:That's actually a myth. Frogs are no more likely to jump out of a pot if it is heated up slowly
Re:Canada, speaking as a cross-border person, Canada is cool. A political structure that should result in implosion and self-destruction, yet a population who's cynical nature prevents that from happening.
And yes, America and Canada ARE tied together in many..many ways. Closer and closer every day..(that could be a song!). If you get a chance, read a book called Fire and Ice, it's a comparitive study on Canadian and American culture. The main difference is big differences on what it means to be happy. Americans tend to be much more goal oriented, which often gets in the way of enjoying the journey.
BTW..for the most part? Canadians are very little different than the people who hang around here. Snarky, yet compassionate at the same time.
blehz0r, I cordially invite you to suck my balls.
You know there has actually been a drive to conquer it all through our history?
Hell, at one point Irish revolutionaries based in the US invaded Canada.
They failed, and had to be content with the Bronx. Oh well.
"offer sane ideas on how to fix things again."
Why cant the president offer up a program like the apollo program?Sonething like lets make a renewable energy source,or something like that ...only instead of making it a ten or twenty year project why not make it into a 5 year goal?Wouldnt this make for a "rush" project and force the industries to crank up capacity to fulfill this goal?It does'nt have to be renewable energy,but something that would make for a project the size of the apollo project.May be the global climate project or I dont have all the answers but it seems to me the president has the power to insill a national goal and he also has the power to set its projected timetable.
Just an opinion,I could be wrong.
Karmakin -
I agree about Fire and Ice, good rec.
OT: I just barely caught a clip on CNN that the FBI wants the authority to be able to read all e-mails?!?!?
Nah, not all emails, only the ones about penis enlargement.
Ashcroft's orders, though he won't say why, exactly.
Don't homo-sexually harass me please Chris Tucker. Isn't that a hate crime?
Some lib please denounce this hate criming criminal.
Why does Canada hate America?
Too many French.
MSR, there was talk of the numerological aspects of the attacks the other day, including the one that you mentioned.
For my part, I don't see why Al Qaida would be particularly inclined towards numerological motivations, and certainly not on religious grounds.
As I stated yesterday, I have been quite dismissive of that study as a means of prediciting chaos, though my attitude was challenged when acquaintences who study and swear by such methods suggested that the 28 blacked-out pages in the 9/11 Report led them to caution me regarding my whereabouts around August 14th and 15th. (9/11-28 days)
I chuckled at what I considered to be paranoia on their part, but shortly after 4pm - which is midnight in Riyadh - my state and several others experienced a 'black-out' the likes of which I don't wish to experience again soon.
Such events have caused me to consider if perhaps my attitude towards what some call "conspiracy theories" regarding the control of groups such as Al Qaida by the intelligence services of America, or the 'Shadow' personnel thereof, may not actually be a more likely source of such significant occurances.
I read elsewhere that you are quite familiar with the nature of mercenary organizations, so I hope I am not wrong in presuming that you might know all too well how orchestrations of such events via outsourcing could be accomplished in such a way as to divert blame from the paying customer to the 'hired help'.
"Historically, Canada has always been part of the US!"
You know there has actually been a drive to conquer it all through our history? We wasted a massive amount of our army in the Revolutionary War trying to steal Montreal. We tried for a while there to take Canada every time we went to war somewhere else. Gore Vidal calls it "the eternal dream", which is hilarious until you realize he's not exagerrating.
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You're absolutely right, and it's quite evident in Americans' attitude towards Canada. For example, while I myself have no particular longing for the US to annex Canada, I will admit that I still think of our northern border as essentially arbitrary.
Kind of like how in my ignorant way I wonder why Australia and New Zealand went to the trouble of being separate countries.
Every journalist involved in this fraud should just kill themselves in shame.
we should be so lucky. i'd settle for one or two. what about it, ho's? restore a little principle to your blood-drenched profession?
Actually we need Albania or somebody to come and watch Jeb Bush and Kathleen Harris closely while we vote.
But Canada is our most needed neighbor who patiently watches our periodic bouts of hysteria and insanity.
For my part, I don't see why Al Qaida would be particularly inclined towards numerological motivations, and certainly not on religious grounds.
Okay, leaving aside ALL THAT NUMEROLOGY AND ASTROLOGY AND HERBALIOSM ALL THROUGHOUT ALL RELIGION (the mustard seed, stars, 666, etc etc etc), IX/XI is actually a very significant date to Jihad. What, do you think a carefully-orchestrated attack is dated randomly? Do you think they're going off phone numbers?!
right, not sounding very credible, but we're digging it up now, and it's very impressive!
Hear our unfounded assertions and quake!
I certainly didn't wish to offend, key & yuri. Please do explain the significance of IX/XI.
I did not think that I suggested that carefully orchestrated attacks were dated randomly, but instead that the organization of the attacks might be not merely the product of religions, but occultic power-mongers as well.
I dread using terms such as Illuminati as they ultimately result in scorn and derision which derail the point that, while not wanting to insult Al Qaida by suggesting they are incapable of carring out such orchestrations alone, neither do I want to give them undue credit when they are merely a front group for anti-democratic forces which prop up a variety of terrorist organizations.
hurn...
could this be ken yuri?
I don't see why Al Qaida would be particularly inclined towards numerological motivations
Then you're not following AQ's MO. Really, you aren't. They love this date shit.
Also, they are by now following a kind of capitalist franchise model -- subsidiary groups are borrowing the popular AQ brand name for local operations.
Invading Iraq was about 15 years behind the curve in combatting these assholes.
Your contention about the significance of dates may be accurate, Thersites. But surely Al Qaida is not the only group to whom dates and numbers are important.
kei & yuri, were you perchance refering to the verses beginning, "Indeed we sent Noah"?
Here's a detailed critique of the failures of the US press corp in the runup to the Iraq debacle - illustrating that not only were the journalists napping, but so were the editorialists and the watchdogs - very interesting stuff...
http://worldonfire.typepad.com/w.../world_on_fire/
Has anybody see this?Aq has a new message for us and it is very scary.I really dont like the sound of it.
okay, we're still digging. Here's the thing. Being Scandinavian-style "democratic socialists" or however you like, we can't dig child-devouring Yahveh, let alone "the number 9 equalling compassion" or crap like that. The article we saw and can't find now was good not because of wishy-wasy feelings but because it established that there are these dates and anniversaries that every Jihadi memorizes-driven out of Spain in 1453, at the same time taking Constantinople, etc. IX/XI, and a large number of these very deliberately chosen dates, had something to do with these anniversaries. A lot of the article dissolved into gobblygook but the thing to remember is Ossie Laden, Pat Robertson and every True Believer are full of gobblygook, use it--and may be predictable off it the same way police try to get inside a serial killer's head witout necessarily believing that prostitutes deserve to die.
So like the second half is talking about how the twin towers are the twin towers/pillars of Masonry, a social club pretending to roots in the Knights Templar, who of course were...Crusaders.
Now, what matters is not whether the architect who designed the Towers was some kind of Mason (OT-Wasn't he a Son of Heaven? Do they admit Japanese, the Masons?), what matters is whether such symbolism-the Two Pillars of the Jewish Temple, identified with the Two Pillars Propping Up Godless Secular Colonialism-would appeal to an antisemitic nut fighting a war on Godless Secular Colonialism, which it pretty clearly would *provided Laden has even heard about Masonry*.
Flight 11 hit a 110 story tower on september 11, then another plane hit the other 110 story tower and the two towers fell on the 22 story Vista International Hotel.
I also recall details regarding the design of the WTC noting its distinctive architectural features which were derived from Arabic design, including the tiled outdoor ground floor area between the buildings, and that this was considered to be an insult similar to the offense that Jesus was supposed to have responded to in his clearing of the Temple of economic activity.
Personally I've always felt that that episode had nothing to do with the character's notion that the physical temple was sacrosanct, but that the author wanted to communicate that one ought not to pretend that a convenience store is the confines of the Holy when in fact it is the bodies of all which can potential be the abode of righteousness. But I digress.
from the Skeptic's Annotated Quran, (equivalent of) "chapter" 9, "verse" 11:
9:11 But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then are they your brethren in religion. We detail Our revelations for a people who have knowledge.
Mufti Nooruddin Samhoudi : (Died 911 A.H.) He was born in Samhoud in Egypt. Everyone in Madinah was taught by him. He wrote three histories of Madinah. The first one got burnt. Second is titled Al-Wafa while the third one is Khulasatul Wafa and were published.
I can't take it anymore:
Letters to the editor
March 13, 2004
Homosexuals deserve our compassion
L.B. Miller Jr.
Doyline
Should the Constitution be amended to prohibit same-sex homosexuals from marrying? No, tread lightly here.
Should same-sex homosexuals be permitted to marry? Yes, but only in a special civil ceremony, just for gays. If homosexuals want to live together and share everything in common and want a certificate to celebrate their commitment, why not? They are living together now, and one thing for sure, they can't make any baby homosexuals.
Homosexuals don't meet the three basic requirements for a God-blessed heterosexual marriage. First, from the very beginning and down through the ages, marriage by definition and practice was always between a man and a woman. Second, God started the human race by creating Adam and Eve. He then stopped creating humans and turned the job of reproducing over to Adam and Eve. Third, God loves a family. He established the home with both a father and a mother so the children could be properly nurtured and cared for.
Homosexuals are not our enemy; neither are they monsters. They are people too but with a very different sexual lifestyle. We don't have to approve. God doesn't, but we should have compassion.
Promote responsible drinking, driving
Here is a Slate article about the Arabic design aspects Yamasaki used in the WTC:
The Mosque to Commerce
Bin Laden's special complaint with the World Trade Center.
well, it would appeer they are quite aware of Masons and "Jewish masonry":
(from the Masri message claiming responsibility for Madrid, at Jazeera)
In a separate attack the Jund al-Quds (Soldiers of Jerusalem) targeted a Jewish Masonic lodge in Istanbul. Three top Masons were killed in the operation, and if it was not for technical failure all the masons would have been killed, but for some Devine wisdom only three were killed. Thanks God anyway.
(can't resist) What a Jew that YHVH is!
"I've got the secret evidence...in my pocket! But you can't see it!"
I can't see why the Canadians didn't accept this as a valid argument. Perhaps the Bush people forgot to remind Ottawa about the historical precedents. Recall how in 1968 Nixon had a "secret plan" to end the Vietnam war but said we had to elect him in order to find out what it was? And isn't the Vietnam war over now? See how that works?
Mars,
dude, run out of that crazy state as soon as you can. I'm not even gay and that shit makes me crazy.
We don't have to approve. God doesn't,/i.>
How the fuck does he know? Some days I'm just embarrassed to be an american.
my parents are Canadian.
i think the most valuable thing they taught me is that patriotism & religion are just means of manipulation & control.
my father predicts that the US will invade Canada for their fresh water supply within the next 20 years.
sorry, too tired to close tags. Damn you hypertext markup!!! 
my father predicts that the US will invade Canada for their fresh water supply within the next 20 years.
maybe the rapture will come in the meantime and we'll all be safe from these marauding wackadoos.
Promote responsible drinking, driving
Mars Spirit Rover
There's someone there at the op/ed page who does shit like that just to give me a laugh -- including that line for the next 'letter to the editor' about drinking and driving responsibly right under that one. I don't know who he is but he's a sly caution, that one.
Has anybody see this?Aq has a new message for us and it is very scary.I really dont like the sound of it.
smalfish | Email | Homepage | 03.13.04 - 2:06 am | #
Bring it on!
my father predicts that the US will invade Canada for their fresh water supply within the next 20 years.
Maybe your dad should hope for another stolen Bush term. At the rate they're going, Georgie's regime will wreck the military so badly, we won't be able to invade anyone for a long, long time.
Religious zealots sound so similar to psychotics off their meds... coincidence?
Let's ask Mel. Maybe he knows.
So, is it safe to put the Canadians in the "against us" category?
I'm consistently amazed by people who took the case for the invasion of Iraq seriously and blown away by anyone who was convinced by Powell's speech to the U.N.
Michael Massing had an article in the New York Review, "Now They Tell Us" which nicely evaluates the press coverage and savages Judith Miller of the NYTimes.
Miller said that as an investigative reporter in the intelligence area, "my job isn't to assess the government's information and be an independent intelligence analyst myself. My job is to tell readers of The New York Times what the government thought about Iraq's arsenal." Many journalists would disagree with this; instead, they would consider offering an independent evaluation of official claims one of their chief responsibilities.
I don't read my local paper- it's too annoying. Bad enough I have to see our asshat gov. on TV when I can't get to the remote quick enough.
I took the test to see if I qualified for canadian immigration- I scored a 75, but don't have the funds to move there without a job. I think it's gonna get really scary here in the south with chimpy loses.
During the march to war, the abuse heaped on traditional allies for their skepticism will be constitute one of the more shameful chapters in any book on BushCo.
Whether it's Canada being slammed as a poor excuse for a friend by some patriotic Washington blowhard or a poorer Central American or African country being threatened with economic suffering and the withholding of humanitarian aid, this administration will be remembered as one of the biggest bullies and psychopaths in history.
It makes me burn with embarrassment that the world knows, through accurate coverage of the march to war, that African countries on the Security Council were told that desperately needed food aid and medicine would be withheld if the representative didn't vote for war. Already starving millions would starve more.
The legitimately earned reputation for freedom and generosity has been obliterated by a Bush-defined America that beats up on sick, starving, desperate people. Jeebus. I want my democracy back.
"Well, what can I say. Every journalist involved in this fraud should just kill themselves in shame."
That's the problem with these whores, they have no shame. Like with Pickler, for many the priority is to please the master in order to get ahead. Professionalism, integrity, democracy, they all pale in compairson. No, there will be no suicides by journalists, no matter how warranted, just more murdering of the truth.
Your contention about the significance of dates may be accurate, Thersites. But surely Al Qaida is not the only group to whom dates and numbers are important.
The big one was that the '98 African bombings were on 8/7, the anniversary of either the deployment of US troops on Saudi Arabian soil or the announcement of same, I forget which.
The dates they get off on are not to do with mystical or religious matters, but rather significant dates in the "West" vs. "Muslim" conflict. This is pretty well known, actually.
No, AQ is not the only gang of number nuts. However, the nature of AQ is not that of a single entity, like a gang of bizarre supervillians as from one of the lamer James Bond entries, such as Moonraker. Still less are they tied to a particular state or even region. Rather, AQ acts more like a kind of a terrorist foundation -- a grant-giving entity -- which offers consulting, advice, and financing to local groups interested in doing hideous bombings. For big projects, they get more involved, as in 9/11. But mostly they are decentralized and funded by multiple sources, as for instance the dangerous "Arab banks."
The real point is that Shrubco has no idea how to really combat AQ, or rather, the model of terrorism they present. Invading Iraq was, in terms of combatting terrorism, at best a waste of resources and at worst a boon to Islamist propagandists.
bad jim, wassup.
Miller said that as an investigative reporter in the intelligence area, "my job isn't to assess the government's information and be an independent intelligence analyst myself.
In other words her job isn't to think critically, it's just to be a whoring parrot for the current regime. Good plan.
Get that? "My job is to tell readers what the government thought."
I thought that the case for war was pure political bullshit back in July or August of 2002. That's what I got from reading Atrios and others of that ilk (Kos? Steve Gilliard?). Oh, and the Guardian and the BBC.
my father predicts that the US will invade Canada for their fresh water supply within the next 20 years.
I've even seen the propaganda for this plan, at my local supermarket;
Drink Canada Dry!
We'll begin with their tonic water, and then assault their ginger ale.
When Islamic zealots make statements like this
"We would like to announce to all Muslims in the world that 90% of the preparations of operation "Wind of Black Death" designed to be performed in America has finished, and will be performed soon God willing (at the Mujahideen's convenience). Believers will celebrate the victory of God"
What makes chrisians right when they make staements like this
"Homosexuals don't meet the three basic requirements for a God-blessed heterosexual marriage. First, from the very beginning and down through the ages, marriage by definition and practice was always between a man and a woman. Second, God started the human race by creating Adam and Eve. He then stopped creating humans and turned the job of reproducing over to Adam and Eve. Third, God loves a family. He established the home with both a father and a mother so the children could be properly nurtured and cared for.
Homosexuals are not our enemy; neither are they monsters. They are people too but with a very different sexual lifestyle. We don't have to approve. God doesn't, but we should have compassion."
What the hell is the difference?Both promote hate and intolerance and promote they're "god".This "god" shit just has to be done away with.It does nothing to promote peace,prosperity and happiness.WHen the masses are terrified of their god or somebody elses god I submit god ought to be outlawed.GOD SUCKS!
Drink Canada Dry!
We'll begin with their tonic water, and then assault their ginger ale.
That was hilarious.
operation "Wind of Black Death"???
What are we living in? a bad sci-fi novel?
"What are we living in? a bad sci-fi novel?"
No just the END OF DAYS!
And the lawd said let there be death and there was death and the lawd said this is great!
Perhaps I should be more blunt:
I don't think the problem is necessarily that the Bush administration fails to understand how to fight Al Qaida and other terrorist groups.
I think the problem may be that the Bush aminstration fails to fight Al Qaida and other terrorist groups.
Without the complete Trifecta, where would they have drawn the power or authority to kick Canada around?
In other words, Al Qaida may likely be just an Arabic version of DynCorp.
That was hilarious.
Hee... we aims to please.
Do you ever get the sense, by the way, that when they write the history textbook of the 21st century, they'll call the chapter handling the first four years "The Age When the Morons Ruled"?
operation "Wind of Black Death"???
What are we living in? a bad sci-fi novel?
four legs good
Isn't religion wonderful....
On 9-11-2001, shortly after the attack on the Pentagon, I went up on the roof of my 16-story apartment to see if I could see the Pentagon itself -I'm less than a mile away and could smell the fire within 5 or ten minutes of the plane's strike.
I could see the pall of smoke but not the building because of other high-rise apartments in between, but I noted with some startlement that a crescent moon was clearly visible high in the sky overhead. `This was an Al Qaeda signature,' I thought; a variation of what some call "The Italian finger salute." Most affinity groups, terrorists and serial killers have signatures.
That moon got me thinking back to 9-11. Then the news media began to stew over new indications that Al Qaeda related "chatter" is pointing to a spectacular new attack on the US and its global economy.
I mentioned the crescent moon of 9-11 in a phone interview with AM 710 KIRO Radio in Seattle on Thursday morning. And today (Friday morning) I decided to test this indicator against other Al Qaeda attacks. This required visiting the Naval Observatory for phase of the moon data for 1995-2003; then checking attack dates for moonrise/moonset times at the Farmers Almanac website (Website details are appended below).
Well, the theory holds water. Just as the US uses a sky devoid of moonlight for its key Stealth aircraft and cruise missile attack missions; the Islamist terrorists affiliated with Al Qaeda now seem to favor a crescent moon that is at least partly visible in daylight. The 9-11 attack was during the last quarter moon. The October 6-12 attacks in Yemen (the French Tanker) Kuwait and Bali start on the new moon of the 6th and during the new crescent moon; and the moon was visible in daylight hours. It also dawned on me that the Bali attack coincided with the second anniversary of the attack on the USS Cole in Yemen (Oct. 12, 2000).
But earlier attacks at Al Khobar Towers in 1996, against the Embassies in Africa in 1998 and the attack on the USS Cole did not take place under a crescent moon -that seems to have come up with the 9-11 strikes. Data for each attack accompanies this narrative.
As to the Cole attack, naval vessels are targets of opportunity, while tankers such as the Limburg, are more frequent passers by. The terrorist cell has to strike a naval vessel when it is in reach, not reach it when the moon is right; so military assets in the Middle East must always be watchful.
So as to that "spectacular" attack Al Qaeda purportedly has in mind; I note that Ramadan ends on the Dec. 4th new moon, with moonrise at 7:30AM and moonset at 5:08 PM. A crescent will be visible for the 4th-8th or so and while I don't think Al Qaeda would attack at night on the feast of Eid, daytime from the 4th on is a perfect Islamist "free fire zone." Dec. 27, 2002 - Jan. 7, 2003 is the next high risk period, with moonrise for New Years Day at 6:40 AM and moonset at 3:47 PM.
For civilian tar
"Wind of Black Death"
Perhaps they intend to detonate a stockpile of America's stored WMD's.
Be careful if living in/visiting Alabama.
For civilian targets, in the absence of anything specific, I would look at the almanac and move quietly to "condition orange" from "condition yellow" during the last quarter-first quarter periods and be doubly careful when the crescent is hanging out there in broad daylight.
Terrorists will strike targets of opportunity when they can, so it is unsafe 24/7/365, but for a big operation, Al Qaeda appears to have adopted the crescent moon phase of the month.
Thersites, yes, either that or the beginning of the "new dark ages".
Well if things get really bad we can all run away to the south of france and establish an expat community. MSR, you too, since we know you won't be competing with us for the chicks. Plus, if asscraft comes looking for us you can protect us with your mad mercenary skills.
Is anyone still awake who is old enough to remember NAWAPA? It was a plan to divert part of Canada's copious water supply south to irrigate the dry American west.
The Russians had a similar plan. Siberia's mighty rivers run south to north. This means that in the fall the mouths of the rivers freeze before the sources, so it floods in between. In the spring, the sources melt before the mouths, so it floods again. Unfortunately, correcting this requires planetary terraforming. IIRC, they were considering using nuclear explosives...
There were a lot of bad ideas floating around in the 1960's, along with some great science fiction.
Salt Water
I won't disagree with that assessment. I admit I'm usually baffled about where to draw the line between what the administration just messed up and what it deliberately planned to do out of either crazed or malicious motives.
"Feast of Eid"? I can't take it anymroe!
perhaps, since we don't have almanacs handy maybe you could warn us about those crescent moon periods.
Kind of as a public service.
Black Death and the Jews 1348-1349 CE
Is anyone still awake who is old enough to remember NAWAPA? It was a plan to divert part of Canada's copious water supply south to irrigate the dry American west.
I am. Ahhh, 60's science fiction. Remember the great magazines?
IIRC, they were considering using nuclear explosives...
Hmmm... intriguing. Thanks for the info.
As a favor for the suggestion, I'd suggest not buying land in North Dakota anytime soon.
I'd suggest not buying land in North Dakota anytime soon.
Thanks for the tip, me buying land in N. Dakota is even less likely than my cat dancing the bossa nova.
Muslims use a lunar calendar, and at least in some climes they require a sighting of the new moon to declare the beginning of the next month.
No biggy; European pagans used to use a lunar calendar, too.
We've currently got a waning moon, maybe a week past full. It wasn't new on 11 September either.
(I've heard that fundamentalist Muslims prohibit predictions of eclipses and the like, because it's up to God after all and it's impious to predict what he'll do beforehand. However, the Muslims who gave us algebra also named the stars for us and some countries, like Afghanistan, are content to use almanacs to predict moon phases instead.)
What do others here make of the strange stories about the mass deaths of Wyoming elk? You can find plenty of information by searching "wyoming" "elk" and "death" on Google News.
My clan (my sister and one niece, anyway) want to relocate to Tuscany. I don't get it - we already live in California, what's the difference? - but I do what I can to keep the idea alive.
My clan (my sister and one niece, anyway) want to relocate to Tuscany. I don't get it - we already live in California, what's the difference? - but I do what I can to keep the idea alive.
Better food and no rethugs. Probably less chance of a terrorist attack too. Probably less smog. Okay, forget the south of france, tuscany it is. I love italian wine.
Isn't Tuscany scheduled for a new ice age?
Along those lines:
Hollywood disaster film set to turn heat on Bush
Movie depicting horrors of global warming could boost votes for Democrat challenger
completely groundless speculation
argument I: Dark Age Europeans, scared out of their wits by the unstoppable plagues ("Black Death"), blame the local Jews.
arg II, § 1: Zionists insist on strangely yabbering about an entity called "World Jewry", which is a kind of mythical united community of Jews worldwide.
arg II, § 1A: fearful symmetry of above to every anti-semitic lie after the Medieval "Usurers" meme drawing on the idea of a Jewish global conspiracy.
arg II, § 2: Thanks to this peculiar insistence on the part of organized Zionism (by which we mean support for Israel, especially unquestioning support for its government) on this image of a uniform and active "World Jewry", ribald anti-semitic madness gains sickening credibility it was missing for decades.
arg II, § 3: French idiot criminals see the local Synagogue unquestioningly supporting a criminal government arrogantly destabilizing the world as the cause, by a kind of racist trigonometry, of similar world-destabilizing criminal governments' bombing strikes, so
prognosis II: these life-unworthy pieces of shit bomb the local Synagogue. (which is the same as I).
Thus alQaeda is seeking, besides the removal of the American military presense, to force the Israeli Support issue by making your backyard a "legitimate target" or whatever the IDF calls Arab schools, so the same grief-wracked madness of the orphan suicide bombers can spread. That will be the real "Black Death". Personally we'd be willing to bet the idea that "Black Death" is a bio ref is a red herring; Arabic is extremely poetic and colorful.
Here we are in the 1300s. Think we must be making up the idea of Zionists stupid enough to invoke a mythical uniform "World Jewry" straight out of the Protocols? We couldn't believe it either at first. Look:
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kei & yuri,
Goodness knows that Mr. Gibson has done his part to stoke those embers.
(addenda)
the issue is not whether Jews live all over the world or not. Of course they do; of course there is a "global Jewish community". The issue is, is this community, as one dissenter put it, "an amen chorus for Sharon"? Both anti-semites and Zionists want you, and any easily persuaded gun-hording rednecks among you, to think so.
My concern is not so much which dance steps Osaman Bin Laden/Al Quaida make, but who is calling the tune.
When, if ever, did Al Qaida become other than a front-group of the CIA?
Well now wait a minute. Let's not allow an nice evening of numerology and Jewish Masonry to dissolve into conspiracy opera. Plenty of CIA/FBI quit in disgust and leaked that the wahhabi al-Bushi, who would be millions poorer without the help of their oily friends (especially Dubya the Startup Cowboy), were forcing them to "lay off the Saudis". One of them became head of security at the WTC and died on that day. A man like that let's remember properly.
More silliness, more stuff.
Tales of medieval Jewry: I seem to recall that Britain expelled the Jews with the Edict of York, sometime in the 1200's. So, that was that. Spain didn't get around to expelling its Jews until the magical year of 1492.
So, Britain didn't have any Jews from then on? Unlikely. By the time they got things sufficiently together to look around they found they had some resident populations. It was a center for trade, after all, and all sorts of people came and went as a matter of course.
The official histories tell you the year in which a sovereign died of a surfeit of muffins, not the stories of people making deals in back alleys, or who set up shop in which yard.
Anyone want to argue who Shakespeare was?
Gold is thicker than water.
The Dot.com era should have taught us one thing... the bigger the lie, the better the PowerPoint.
Preznit giv me Powr poynt!
Anyone want to argue who Shakespeare was?
bad Jim
No, but I had a literature professor who believed that no important writer came before Shakespeare or after. And I immediately dropped his class..
A thing we can't get over, especially considering British hated for the Irish, is the old, established, strong, assimilated, numerous Anglo-Italian population (John Cabot/Giovanni Cabotto, etc).
I can't get over the English name "Leghorn" for Livorno.
I always assume that the Irish made the Brits tolerant. Not that the Irish were themselves tolerant...
Never dropped a class. I generally thought I knew what I was getting into beforehand, and put up with what I got . That was a long time ago, though.
We were assigned Philoctetes in Comp Lit. Odysseus is the villain in that play, and I didn't much care for it. The only good I got out of that experience was recognizing the story when Robert Silverberg served it up again in a novel. Might have liked his telling better if I hadn't already known the plot.
A near contemporary of mine took "beach skills" as a physical education course at a community college. I think she got a better deal 
You have to worry about this country that believed the swill fed them about Iraq. About 70% of the country fell for the big lie including most of the SCLM. Do they hold the liars accountable? Not nearly enough. People do not like admitting Smirk played them like cheap whores.
Alos; if i hear one more liberal say that Bush is a likable fellow, I think I'll just throw the fuck up.
Why do people say this?
"The day Powell gave his dog and pony at the U.N. was the day I knew the Bushies had squat on Iraq's alledged WMDs and were only pretending to have evidence of same."
the day I first saw Bush, was the day I knew he was a lying, sack of sh*t, ignorant stooge that would, given the opportunity would do great harm, and bring great destruction to humanity.
Feh. The day Powell gave his dog and pony at the U.N. was the day I knew the Bushies had squat on Iraq's alledged WMDs and were only pretending to have evidence of same.
Me too. I never figured out why the press was all "it was so powerful!! Powell is so cool!!"
four legs good
Add me to the list of people who knew Crawlin' Powell was selling a pack of lies that day.
Notice how Jean Chrétien wasn't taken in? In a parlimentary system you at least have to be smart.
What you say, what about Tony Blair? I don't think for a second that Tony the Terrier bought it, he knew it was a fraud and chose to participate. That's the down side, when they're crooked they're also smarter too. Look at Mulroney.
"When, if ever, did Al Qaida become other than a front-group of the CIA?"
When the US was using the Arabs to resist Soviet incursion into Afghanistan...CIA taught them everything they know and supplied them.
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Bliar is still selling the same dodgy dossier, though. The over-egging of the Iraqi sales deal appeals to him on some level.
Let's blame the entire mess on Carter and his reflexive anti-Communism. Perhaps Afghanistan was the low point of containment. Sure, it was fun to rub the Russian's noses in their Vietnam, but was it worth it, after all?
If we'd let them have free rein they probably wouldn't have wound up that much worse than, say, Uzbekistan, and we all know how congenial we find those creeps lately.
Add me to the Powell UN WTF List. His little tap dance was false on its face. I was listening to it live on NPR, growing angrier by the minute, remembering comedy routines making fun of Reagan fifteen years earlier that sounded exactly like what the Designated Sellou- er, Secretary of State was spouting in front of the whole world.
But none of that is important now:
my father predicts that the US will invade Canada for their fresh water supply within the next 20 years.
I've even seen the propaganda for this plan, at my local supermarket;
Drink Canada Dry!
We'll begin with their tonic water, and then assault their ginger ale.
Thersites | Email | Homepage | 03.13.04 - 2:46 am | #
This.
Is.
Frickin'.
Classic.
I usually agree with four legs anyway, but... oh yeah. Best laugh I've had all week. Thanks for starting my Saturday with a smile!
My clan (my sister and one niece, anyway) want to relocate to Tuscany. I don't get it - we already live in California, what's the difference? - but I do what I can to keep the idea alive.
Better food and no rethugs. Probably less chance of a terrorist attack too. Probably less smog. Okay, forget the south of france, tuscany it is. I love italian wine.
Hey guys, I have a "in" in Salsomaggiore, Emilio Romagna, Italy. It's near Parma....not too far from Tuscany. My niece's in-laws have a very nice little albergo with a wonderful restaurant and nice cameras with views of the countryside...on the outskirts of this lovely little spa town.
It's less than two hours from Milan, not too far from the south of France, close to the Alps and Lake Como and Switzerland, less than two hours from Cinque Terre, a little over two hours from Venice, a short drive to cheese city, Florence, Bologna, etc. I try to go once a year if I can afford it. I just spent Christmas & New Year's there in 03. This is not a promo, this is just an FYI if we ever do need to start an off-country commune.
She speaks the language fluently (unlike her auntie) and is a wonderful tour guide. She just had twin girls in Feb. 03 (one day before *my* birthday, how rude is that?) but they are mobile and they love to do daytrips. Cute little rugrats.
"Salso" has the world pizza championships and the Miss Italy contest. What more could you ask for?
My clan (my sister and one niece, anyway) want to relocate to Tuscany. I don't get it - we already live in California, what's the difference? - but I do what I can to keep the idea alive.
Better food and no rethugs. Probably less chance of a terrorist attack too. Probably less smog. Okay, forget the south of france, tuscany it is. I love italian wine.
Hey guys, I have a "in" in Salsomaggiore, Emilio Romagna, Italy. It's near Parma....not too far from Tuscany. My niece's in-laws have a very nice little albergo with a wonderful restaurant and nice cameras with views of the countryside...on the outskirts of this lovely little spa town.
It's less than two hours from Milan, not too far from the south of France, close to the Alps and Lake Como and Switzerland, less than two hours from Cinque Terre, a little over two hours from Venice, a short drive to cheese city, Florence, Bologna, etc. I try to go once a year if I can afford it. I just spent Christmas & New Year's there in 03. This is not a promo, this is just an FYI if we ever do need to start an off-country commune.
She speaks the language fluently (unlike her auntie) and is a wonderful tour guide. She just had twin girls in Feb. 03 (one day before *my* birthday, how rude is that?) but they are mobile and they love to do daytrips. Cute little rugrats.
"Salso" has the world pizza championships and the Miss Italy contest. What more could you ask for?
Yaaarggghhh....sorry about that. It was an accident, honest.
You know there has actually been a drive to conquer it all through our history? We wasted a massive amount of our army in the Revolutionary War trying to steal Montreal. We tried for a while there to take Canada every time we went to war somewhere else. Gore Vidal calls it "the eternal dream", which is hilarious until you realize he's not exagerrating. kei & yuri 03.13.04 - 1:07 am
The 18th century-vintage Fort Halifax in Nova Scotia has a lavishly-done diorama of an imaginary US attack on Halifax in the 1850's (blue Civil War uniforms!) repulsed by Canadian defenders, including "Canadian sharpshooters." You could just see that this exhibit was a true labor of love.
Trouble with moving to Canada, long term, is that the USA will screw it up, too. Not that I won't be seriously considering the move if required.
In any case, back on thread: The latest New York Review of Books has a review of Hans Blix's memoir. Read it--the review, at least.
"Blix wondered how the United States could be 100 percent sure that Iraq had banned weapons, but zero percent sure of where they were."
Iraq: a war to keep Saddam Hussein from giving weapons he didn't have to terrorists he didn't know.
Rove's Puppet - actually, that score is reversed. They've dropped the number to 67, -from- 75, for skilled worker immigration. You're good to go now.
You know, Wolfowitz's casual admission that WMD's were agreed on for 'bureaucratic reasons' as a pretext for war and this refusal to disclose 'evidence' to the Canadian government is all part of the same cultural strain: American exceptionalism.
I wasn't born in the U.S. and didn't go to U.S. K-12 schools so I can't explain it. But somewhere along the line a large segment of the U.S. population truly, madly, deeply comes to believe that the U.S. is different . So, when the chips are down and/or the government says so and/or the extremists are in power then the U.S. can do whatever the hell it wants - not just because it has the power and it can, but because it has the right. Don't forget the theme: "Because we are good, whatever we do must be right".
norbizness,
I think you mean that powerpoint presentations are effective given "brigh lights and AMBIEN."
aimai
Well, what can I say. Every journalist involved in this fraud should just kill themselves in shame.
As the truth came out, I wrote to several and told them exactly that.
As for not being able to immigrate thru lack of money - just about every province other than Ontario has a 'provincial nominee' programme which will sponsor someone moving north if they meet the criteria other than money. It's an old routine in Canada - that's how they populated most of the Prairie Provinces, by going out and recruiting people to settle.
As for the rest - Canadian Defence Plan #1 has been in effect a very long time. That's the one where all guns along the border are pointed south and assault repelled. Canadians are well aware that if the US wants to try invading again, all action will be taken. It's not the water that most think would cause such a move; it's the oil and tar sands up north.
Feh. The day Powell gave his dog and pony at the U.N. was the day I knew the Bushies had squat on Iraq's alledged WMDs and were only pretending to have evidence of same.
Me too. I never figured out why the press was all "it was so powerful!! Powell is so cool!!" All I could think was that asshat had drank the kool-aid and had joined the dark side.
four legs good
I went into my research methods class that night and conducted a 90 minute lecture/discussion on why a class project of this quality would fail.
He won't have a majority in Congress until 06 at the earliest, and the Repugs that are left are going to be bitterly defensive about the shame this administration has caused. Bush is toast, I'll bet big money on that. It don't matter if he's got a billion in his reelect fund, he's a loser. But now we've got to move on and start to offer sane ideas on how to fix things again.
I think if we swallow hard and treat the thugs with a modicum of respect, they might be rather cooperative. On the other hand, they are terrorists, and might just take that as a sign of weakness. Never mind, treat them like dog crap on your shoe, and they'll respect us better.
"Blix wondered how the United States could be 100 percent sure that Iraq had banned weapons, but zero percent sure of where they were."
Oh, Hans, you need to develop a stand-up act. Why didn't they listen to you?
They were too busy monitoring your phone calls and calling you names.
But you got the last *laugh*, didn't you.
evidence? canada wanted evidence?
why does canada hate america,eh?
Power corrupts and PowerPoint corrupts completely.
Careful, I don't think a mass exodus from good ol' US of A to Canada would be welcome to the Canadians. Would they really welcome our kind of insanity? Think it might be contagious...
Careful, I don't think a mass exodus from good ol' US of A to Canada would be welcome to the Canadians. Would they really welcome our kind of insanity? Think it might be contagious...
Shhhh! it's a secret. Don't tell too many people or the canadians will get hip to our plan to drink all their ginger ale.
This is either a description of Fear Factor, or Ezra Pound, despite his fascist leanings, got the Rethuglicans down cold a few decades ago:
The slough of unamiable liars,
bod of stupidities,
malevolent stupidities, and stupidities,
the soil of living pus, full of vermin,
dead maggots begetting live maggots,
slum owners,
usurers squeezing crab-lice, pandars to authority,
pets-de-loup, sitting on piles of stone books,
obscuring the texts with philology.
hiding them under their persons,
the air without refuge of silence,
the drift of lice, teething,
and above it the mouthing of orators,
the arse-belching of preachers.
And Invidia,
the curruptio, foetor, fungus,
liquid animals, melted ossifications,
slow rot, foetid combustion,
chewed cigar-butts, without dignity, without tragedy,
.....m Episcopus, waving a condum full of black-beetles,
monopolists, obstructors of knowledge.
obstructors of distribution.
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