I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
torture lou at cnn
Hello, please head to PvPonline.com and read the Friday, March 19, 2004 story titled "More info on Millionaire's "censoring."" It may be possible that this is just a publicity stunt.
Isn't the dirtest phrase in the American language "John Ashcroft?"
Why I do believe it is.
Fuck John Ashcroft, hell put is damned gall bladder back in.
first amendment? we don't need no steenken first amendment
But Mel Gibson can flay a guy for 45 minutes in big-screen glory.
And the Bush and his little dog McClellan can lie through their teeth every afternoon.
Speech is dangerous.
This doesn't smell right. Cunt that Ashcroft is, newspapers self-censor, and most--even a fair number of weeklys--would dodge "vagina." Also, it's not that funny, really.
Actually, Millionaire copped to screwing up the FCC cite, and it's entirely possible the Federal AG is seeking assistance from state AGs; they do that stuff all the time. --I agree we don't have a thoroughly comfortable level of confirmation yet, but the stuff PvP came up with doesn't come anywhere close to being evidence that this is a publicity stunt.
(That said: this is the first time I've been linked by the Mighty Casio. Jesus Christ. It's like a Nantucket sleigh ride, the traffic.)
Remember, he lost his last election to a dead man. Now the whole nation knows why.
This man has nothing better to do that to force his religious agenda. The entire US Congress could be corrupt and he'd just fold his hands.
Damnit! Let's put his damned gall bladder back in!!
First they came for the cunts ...
I'd love to know which papers were the ones that caved. I would like to think that The Stranger, a Seattle weekly edited by Dan Savage, who has given the world the new meaning of the word santorum, was not among them.
The Kerry campaign needs to make high-profile use of Ashcroft. This is not a campaign just about Dubya - there's a whole posse of lunatics that, if these stories were played up more broadly, would scare the santorum out of most Americans. I hope.
dear john ashcroft,
if you see kay, will you ask her to stop cursing so much too?
When do they assign us a church to attend? I guess everybody'll have to be Southern Baptist or Pentecostal. Hey ladies, you can't cut your hair or wear makeup and you have to wear a full-length skirt and sensible shoes. You can't shave your legs either.
I don't remember off the top of my head whether it's the Seattle Weekly or the Stranger that carries the Maakies. I think it's the Stranger, though. Anyway, I know the Maakies comic I read yesterday in whichever of them runs it, used vagina instead of cunt.
It appears Millionaire made the change to the strip himself, rather than giving papers the option of one word or the other. (Check his home page. It's there in this week's strip.) It's not that three newspapers caved; it's that three newspapers reported to Millionaire that they had been asked to make these sorts of changes, and he complied. So "vagina" in the Stranger doesn't mean the Stranger said boo.
Sick Of It All: When do they assign us a church to attend? I guess everybody'll have to be Southern Baptist or Pentecostal. Hey ladies, you can't cut your hair or wear makeup and you have to wear a full-length skirt and sensible shoes. You can't shave your legs either.
My latest development deal is a reality show about Pentecostals. The tentative title is "American Sharia."
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And we'll have to take up snake-handlin'.
And we'll have to take up snake-handlin'.
I saw a film on that in college, it was fucking creepy. The bad news is, if we have to start handling snakes, they'll probably insist we speak in tongues too.
Personally, if I'm gonna have to act like a freak, I'd prefer to take up Santeria. Those guys look like they're having fun, and then they have chicken afterwards. Yumm!!
On topic, another reason to fucking hate asscrack.
My definition of obscene really differs from that of John Ashcroft's apparently.
Words are only words, but ignoring the Bill of Rights, violating the rights of american citizens, murdering thousands upon thousands of Iraqis and five hundred plus american kids based upon lies and distortions are all really, really obscenities.
My latest development deal is a reality show about Pentecostals. The tentative title is "American Sharia."
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Jeffraham Prestonian
Well, don't forget to include how overbearing they are. There are a lot of them around here who travel in large family groups with a mess of youngins' pushin' and shovin' everywhere they go.
Oh, and ladies, no birth control.
Ashcroft is an asshole, true - but this story appears to be suspect.
And we'll have to take up snake-handlin'.
I saw a film on that in college, it was fucking creepy. The bad news is, if we have to start handling snakes, they'll probably insist we speak in tongues too.
Personally, if I'm gonna have to act like a freak, I'd prefer to take up Santeria. Those guys look like they're having fun, and then they have chicken afterwards. Yumm!!
On topic, another reason to fucking hate asscrack.
four legs good
Yeah, we'll all have to 'speak in tongues' or fake it. Not too hard but you'll have to roll your eyes back in your head with only the whites showing, fall to the ground between the pews while mumbling and rolling around. Just ask Ashcroft, the US Attorney General, to give you some lessons.
Why does my gall bladder hate America?
Why do all the states hate America?
Why am I the only one that loves America?
Fuck Ashcroft
Fuck the FCC
Fuck the Christian Coalition
Fuck every goddamn one of those uptight, puritanical, evangelical, nanny government shitboxes
right in their rotten eyesockets...
ahem, sorry, had to get that out while it is still legal.
Well, this fits in nicely with this story from where else? Missouri!
The state is tackling the horrible problem of adult shops/strip clubs advertsising on billboards.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/Midwe...s.ap/
index.html
Why does my state of Missouri hate America?
It's a joke.
Newspapers are litigious fucking animals and would NEVER tolerate John Ashcroft telling them what to do.
They may kiss thge ass of advertisers, but they flip when the feds start making suggestions. It's bad for business to tolerate government censorship.
Since when do kids read the funny pages anyway? At most US dailies, the comics section is more oriented toward people in nursing homes who are under orders not to get too "agitated."
"Missouri highways are lined with more than 12,000 billboards, according to the Department of Transportation. No official statistics are kept regarding content, but one lawmaker counted 45 sex-themed billboards along a 120-mile stretch of Interstate 70 between Kansas City and Columbia."
via CNN
It's enough to make a good ole Missouri boy proud. Only when we blot out the sun, stars and moon will we truly be free.
fuck you jesus freak!
Ashcroft boobies!
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The Us has always gone after comics. Check out the Comicbook Confidential documentary. Not only did they establish the Comics Code, but they had all these horrible documentaries about the dangers. One featured a number of children, boys about 10 to 12, reading comics in the woods. Then one pulls out a jack knife and starts stabbing trees. All done to very threatening music.
This is just another uptick in the morality cycle.
fuck the fucking religious right. Fuck the fucking fundamentalist christian jihadists. fuck asscrotch and fuck george w. bush for appointing the dumbfuck motherfucker.
The weeklies should get together and do a "calico cat" issue featuring dance steps and that statue at the Justice Department with the heavy, sagging breasts.
My eyes, my eyes..... arghhhhhh, gurgle.... moan....
wOOt you bastard, warn us please! 
Sorry, folks, but I have to agree with this one - "cunt" just shouldn't be in the comics. Believe me, I can't stand Ashcroft, Bush, et al, but there is no need to put "cunt" in the comics. I don't like agreeing with anything Bush, Ashcroft, et al, do, but fair is fair. This is not an issue we should be defending. There's plenty of real issues. My 10 year old son reads the comics - I don't want this work in the comics.
Sorry, folks, but I have to agree with this one - "cunt" just shouldn't be in the comics. Believe me, I can't stand Ashcroft, Bush, et al, but there is no need to put "cunt" in the comics. I don't like agreeing with anything Bush, Ashcroft, et al, do, but fair is fair. This is not an issue we should be defending. There's plenty of real issues. My 10 year old son reads the comics - I don't want this work in the comics.
In any event, what the hell is up with Millionaires edit? "Vagina" is probably the least funny word he could have chosen. Cunt was certainly the funniest, but 'twat,' or 'beaver' would have been worth a couple chuckles. 'Vagina' is only funny when you're *expecting* the word 'cunt.' Everybody knows that.
dear woot,
best damn fuckin' boobies ever!!!
Woots,
Thanks for the perfect stone titties. Looks like the sculptor didn't make the figure right. Technically, the asshole is supposed to be on the OTHER side of the body.
cunt cunt cunt cunt cunt CUNT
Jack, I hear Ashcroft might give you hand with that.
Jack--you let your ten-year-old kid read "Maakies," but it's only now you've decided to get upset at "cunt"?
Or do you let your kid read comic strips in general? --If that's the case, look at your logic: banning "cunt" from the strips in the back of an alternative weekly like the Stranger because your kid reads comics is like banning the word "cunt" from murder mysteries because your kid reads books.
Given the language that rather regularly appears elsewhere in these sorts of papers, there's no reason for anyone to balk at "cunt" in "Maakies." No logical reason, anyway.
But, you see, it's not up to the government to decide...
Why is John Ashcroft such a fucking cunt?
The story isn't making it past my bullshit meter. Doesn't mean it isn't true, but I've got my doubts.
Still, I reckon Ashcroft would just love to crack down on comics, just because he'd like to crack down on everything.
I'm expecting the moralists to start making noises about censoring just about everything, from pay TV to movies to comics to books to the Internet, by the time of the election.
Fuck John Ashcroft. Fuck Michael Powell.
"Missouri highways are lined with more than 12,000 billboards, according to the Department of Transportation. No official statistics are kept regarding content, but one lawmaker counted 45 sex-themed billboards along a 120-mile stretch of Interstate 70 between Kansas City and Columbia."
So it's the "Show me your tits" state. Apropos.
I am a cunt.
I love being Attorney Generalissimo for Jesus.
And I'm a cunt.
The story is bullshit.
First, "Tony Millionaire" says on the message board that his papers got calls from the FCC... an agency which has no authority over newspapers.
Next, he says that it was the DoJ... through 3 state attorney general's offices.
He then provides a link to support his statement that a bunch of "neo-Christian watchdogs" started a letter campaign against him to the AG.
But the link is to a 1986 AG's report!
Next is the utter unbelievability of it all.
It's nearly conceivable that Ashcroft would be this dumb. But that he could get three state attorney generals to follow him, and some newspaper editors too!
Sorry, I think newspaper editors tend to be keenly aware of, and very protective of their rights under the First Amendment. Even if they don't always get the story right, they make damn sure they have a right to publish it.
It's a publicity stunt... the guy's name is Tony Millionaire for fuck's sake.
Who cares spiritraveller we're practising
Jeebus, Jack, we ain't talking about your daily hometown rag comics, we're talking about an alternative paper.
Whatever happened to that First Amendment thingy?
I think it's the Misadministrations plan to immunize us with this kind of bullshit so that when the REAL bullshit hits the fan we'll go uhh huh,what else is new.
When the all the presidents men go to hell is when America gets free from tyranny.Not just this president mind you,thats any president.This paticular bullshit has been in the making for quite some time and this paticular story doesnt make it past raising my eyebrows.Unfortunatly this misadministration has got my WO level elevated to half past insane so it takes a little more than this to get the bar raised.
"But, you see, it's not up to the government to decide..."
Slothrop | 03.19.04 - 7:47 pm |
You must be confusing us with the Old America.
Millionaire has an abject hatred of Ted Rall, who recently got booted from the NY Times online comics page. He's making a sarcastic parody of Rall's situation by pretending he's also, to use Rall's wording "a victim of right-wing anti-free-speech protestors."
Millionaire runs a self-promotional scam roughly once a week, and the Justice Department has NO AUTHORITY WHATSOEVER on advertiser-funded mainstream publications. No speciics are given, and links to Justice are void. Given Millionaire's reputation, there is no cause to believe any of this.
cunt; any unpleasant or contemptable person.which i presume is the intended context of the word.
one lawmaker counted 45 sex-themed billboards along a 120-mile stretch of Interstate 70 between Kansas City and Columbia."
Wow, he was really paying attention, wasn't he? That must have been incredibly difficult for him, having to slow down and ogle all those dirty, dirty billboards. What an effort.
Fucking repressed fucking assholes. Other people are "doing it." Get over it.
A.
BTW - Tomorrow is the big day for the anti-Bush - oops, I mean anti-Iraq war marches.
Sorry, I mean the FCC has no jurisdiction. Millionaire is trying to make fun of the left-wing free-speech people. He's maintaining his position as a professional asshole, that's pretty much it.
I never used to use the word: "cunt." Now it is one of my favorites, because "Republican cunt" just rolls off the tongue so easily.
"BTW - Tomorrow is the big day for the anti-Bush - oops, I mean anti-Iraq war marches."
Does anyone have the link to the march going on in Crawford tomorrow?I read recently that almost everyone who showed up last year went to jail.Also that the town of Crawford changed the laws on rallies within the tonw.Anyone know more about this?
Tomorrow is the big day for the anti-Bush - oops, I mean anti-Iraq war marches.
Whoa, that is one ugly baby that Bush had.
OT: Karl Rove
Lovely little quote by Rove:
Karl Rove, Bush's chief political strategist, called the Medicare issue "much ado about nothing" on Friday because Congress relies on cost estimates for legislation made by the Congressional Budget Office, not the executive branch. In a Friday interview with the editorial board of The Miami Herald, Rove refused to say whether he was involved in the decision to withhold the high cost estimates.
http://tinyurl.com/2uph4
This man is an 'evil doer'!
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does anyone know just what ashcroft does with that crisco, anyway?
maybe crisco lathering leads to gallbladder malfunctions?
does anyone here work in the communion wafer factory?
i'll bring the LSD...
Sorry, folks, but I have to agree with this one - "cunt" just shouldn't be in the comics. Believe me, I can't stand Ashcroft, Bush, et al, but there is no need to put "cunt" in the comics. I don't like agreeing with anything Bush, Ashcroft, et al, do, but fair is fair. This is not an issue we should be defending. There's plenty of real issues. My 10 year old son reads the comics - I don't want this work in the comics.
What with (among a great many other things) forking over thousands in MY tax dollars to Pat "3,000 Dead New Yorkers is God's Will" Robertson, the FMA, "abstinence education" and enduring a fathead like John Ashcroft as AG, you'd think by now, (a) non-religious people, (b) religious people who aren't members of organized religions and (c) organized religions that aren't extreme-right, born-again fundamentalists--would get together to fight what's amounting to the imposition of a state religion.
And a particularly loony, racist and mean state religion at that.
Jack--you let your ten-year-old kid read "Maakies," but it's only now you've decided to get upset at "cunt"?
Jeebus, Jack, we ain't talking about your daily hometown rag comics, we're talking about an alternative paper.
Sorry - I guess I missed this part of the story. I thought we were talking about regular comics in the regular newspaper. I guess this wasn't about that. My bad. BTW, I never heard of "Maakies".
PS. Sorry about the multiple posts - must have had something to do the the Coronas this afternoon! My bad again. Sorry.
one lawmaker counted 45 sex-themed billboards along a 120-mile stretch of Interstate 70 between Kansas City and Columbia.
I wonder how he kept count?
fyi Ashcroft isn't just a fundamentalist asshole, he's an Assemblies of God one as well. They're the same idiots who brought you Jim and Tammy Faye Baker and the Disney protest on account of them actually letting gay people in their park wearing, like, gay pride clothing. Although now I guess naked would have been a problem too. But yeah, if you want to get the heebie jeebies scared out of yourself visit Springfield Missouri, it's crawling with them and frankly no fun at all.
Jack - That's ok - it was rather a pile on by the time everyone had chimed in on it.
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Just practicing blog-posting in tongues.
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"one lawmaker counted 45 sex-themed billboards along a 120-mile stretch of Interstate 70 between Kansas City and Columbia.
"I wonder how he kept count?"
mena | 03.19.04 - 8:43 pm |
If the lawmaker did due diligence and visited all the advertised locations then all he'd have to do is count his credit card receipts when filling out his expense report. Assuming that each billboard represented one astablishment and he only visited each establishment once - otherwise there would be all the dividing and adding and such.
Woot, judging from the photo, Sweet Lady Justice gives him Marty Feldman eyes. Must be pent up rage and hatred.....
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Why does John hate _-_-_-t-s?
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P.S. Not *my* home page, below.
"The contents of this message are mine personally and do not reflect any position of the U.S. Government.
Damn, it's about 20 outrages a day from this administration. And those are just the ones we know of or can get to. I estimate, conservatively, about 5,000 more until the election.
. . . same idiots who brought you Jim and Tammy Faye Baker . . .
Speaking of Tammy Faye but otherwise OT, I hear she's got inoperable lung cancer. Genuinely sorry--she always seemed like they type who'd go from something sillier, less painful and not so soon.
"We train young men to drop fire on people, but we won't allow them to write "FUCK" on their aircraft because... it's obscene." --Col. Kurtz
Oh yeah, and since theres "cockles", it stands to reason that there must be "cuntles", right?
Tena: How about Republicunts? Heh heh.
"Sorry, folks, but I have to agree with this one - "cunt" just shouldn't be in the comics. Believe me, I can't stand Ashcroft, Bush, et al, but there is no need to put "cunt" in the comics. I don't like agreeing with anything Bush, Ashcroft, et al, do, but fair is fair. This is not an issue we should be defending. There's plenty of real issues. My 10 year old son reads the comics - I don't want this work in the comics.
Jack"
Comix hell, that word doesn't even belong in the language. Sorry, just one of my pet peeves. if you really, really need to insult a woman, there are plenty of other words that won't make you sound like a lowlife shithead.
OT, but here's an article about a senior white house defense advisor that was employed during 9/11 saying that immediately after the attacks, donald rumsfeld was pestering bush to bomb attack iraq immediately.
and he's gonna be on 60 minutes on sunday.
OT and no obscenities:
Brooks and shields went at on the news hour. Brooks says war in iraq was all about saddam being an evil dictator that hurt his own people. The WMD's never really had anything to do with brook's reasons for getting rid of saddam. Also, admin gave numerous reasons for getting rid of saddam. WMD's were just one among many reasons. Shields blew his top. Brooks gave him the "you hate America" thing. Two unhappy guys at the end.
I don't like that word at all. However,
We don't need no education.
We don't need no thought control.
No dark sarcasm in the classroom.
Hey, teacher, leave those kids alone.
All in all you're just another brick in the wall.
OT, but I'd just like to say "Huzzah, I can finally get back to August J.Pollack's webpage after months of unsolvable confusion!"
*rubs hands*
Lots of reading goodness for me tomorrow! Unless John Ashcroft gets me... Say August, you ain't a lefty is yoo? Is it safe to be looking at that thar set o'words you be hold'n up?
Well, I'm all for it. I think that there are these strips that are nothing but pure poison in the great bloodstream of American Society, that destroys our moral fibre and our will to prevail even as enemies batter us from without. The Fifth Column really is three panels wide and next to the horoscopes.
And you know I'm talking about The Family Circus, Marmaduke, and The Lockhorns.
OT:
Transcript doesn't do it justice. I bet one of the two doesn't show up next week.
DAVID BROOKS: Of course it was -- it's what the president said. It's what I said 500 million times. It is what most people said, there were multiple reasons why we went to war. As the president said again and again and again, one was the WMD -- the main one for me and for a lot of people was that the sea bed of terrorism was the cascade of tyrannies in the Middle East and you had to address the fundamental problem that there were all these people sitting around with no hope, with no rights, with no liberty and you had to change the dynamic in the Middle East.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/p...political_wrap/
jan-june04/sb_3-19.html
"the sea bed of terrorism was the cascade of tyrannies in the Middle East and you had to address the fundamental problem"
How many time have you said that?
Here's the end of the Shields/Brooks NewsHour segment:
MARK SHIELDS: I recommend Keith Richburg's reporting in the Washington Post which was pretty straightforward. The Spanish people were lied to by their government in when it happened. The government in power that lost on Sunday's election made the case that this was the Basque terrorists rather than al-Qaida that had done this for domestic political consumption, showed how tough we were standing up to them and don't we deserve another term in office and people -- enough people had concluded quite apparently that they had been lied to and misled by their own government and they routed them out of office.
DAVID BROOKS: I would say you can conclude that but you still don't give al-Qaida the appearance of a victory because then they're going to be bombing another election in other countries.
MARK SHIELDS: I just couldn't disagree more. People vote for their leadership based upon that leadership, its strength and weaknesses and they were let down by their own leadership.
Seems OT, but hang on:
There's an essay in the new Harper's examining why the American working class turned against their own interests and started voting solidly Republican - the party of rich bosses.
Same thing happens in Canada now, esp Ontario and the West.
Got reminded of it when Jack posted his message and the pile-on began. He had an divergent opinion - ok, it was based on misinterpretation - but the general reaction was "are you a fucking idiot you fucking idiot?" That's not enough to turn someone away from the left (and I am not suggesting Jack is contemplating a vote for Bush-Cheney right now), but it can certainly sow the seeds. Resentment of lefty righteousness is a powerful force. The left in North America lost the last twenty years because it went looking around for offences and minute examples of divergent ideology instead of keeping focused on the real offences. They - we - basically left the field open to the right to come in and say, 'time for some common sense.'
For the record, the word "cunt" doesn't scare me, but it is a loaded term. Sometimes it's the perfect word (maybe even in this case, though, frankly, the cartoon seemed kind of lame - what am I missing?), but there is a big difference between banning a word (fear) and simply acknowledging its power (respect, humility).
Didn't I read a while back about a bit of an uproar over the word squaw, because essentially it's a pejorative that translates as cunt?
if you really, really need to insult a woman, there are plenty of other words that won't make you sound like a lowlife shithead.
Cunt is a fine equal-opportunity insult that can be applied to people of all sexes.
Yet it wasn't even used as an insult in the strip.
The house slave was at it again today. Gawd is he a disgusting fucking lickspittle.
Oh, BTW, the strip is utter crap.
OT, but let's play "Name That Moron":
I like Don Rumsfeld, I can't help it. I find him entertaining, I agree with his attempts to reform the military and I think that he's trying to do good.
Canadian Bystander,
I used to spend at least 1 weekend a month in toronto for years. I loved it. Stopped going about 5 years ago. Stopped loving it.
Anyway:
"Resentment of lefty righteousness is a powerful force"
That's rush pigbaugh talk. People bring that attitude with them and just look for confirmation. Too much pigbaugh.
"left in North America lost the last twenty years"
Had a dem president for 8 of the last 20 years. The last pres. election was robbery. And also had the house and senate on and off. Not sure of the numbers.
My New York correspondent tells me that - in anticipation of the Republican Convention - the City has begun shutting down Gay Bars and Strip Joints.
"Name That Moron":
Joe Leiberman?
hadenough:
Toronto was beaten down by an ignorant, spiteful neo-con provincial government for 8 years.
"Pigbaugh": The choice isn't between Chomsky and Rush - there's plenty of room for people to just tune out. The right helped make political disengagement the common-sense choice.The left did leave the field wide open - I think most intelligent lefties would agree with that. The most politically active person I know (who's back is fucked by being knelt on by the police so often) just about spits when he talks about what passes for leftist politics these days, both mainstream and on the fringe. He is sick of watching clear plans for action (he's a pacifist, so they're mostly of the 'turn barracks into shelters' kind of thing) get endlessly parsed for the slightest taint of incorrect ideology.
Why would you dismiss Rush and the like? Sites like this one and Billmon's and Tom Tomorrow's are fueled by the idea that right-wing talk is seductive, that they know how to make their message stick, and so the lies must be confronted and exposed. Not only the lies, but the methods behind the propagation of those lies.
Rush is a fool and a maggot, but not to everybody. Study your enemy.
(CIinton was a million times better than what you have now, but I wouldn't exactly view America during those years as a paradise for progressives, either.)
Things are really getting complicated now:
Iraq war 'may have been a mistake': Italian minister
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=...=/afp/20040318/
wl_mideast_afp/iraq_italy_attacks_040318113511
How will you know if your freedom sausage is Polish or Italian?
My New York correspondent tells me that - in anticipation of the Republican Convention - the City has begun shutting down Gay Bars and Strip Joints.
Paul Power
...This just in, Republicans move convention to San Francisco. (W. can have a photo op in the wreckage of the Golden Gate)
As George Carlin says, "It is all political!" A dirty word today is forgotten after the effect is no longer needed.
Ashcroft and Bush and Cheney will all be forgotten in 40 years...no self-respecting history book will give them more than 4 pages.
Reminder: check pvponline.com before weighing in on the topic at hand. There's good reason to believe this is nothing more than a blowhard calling attention to himself.
Canadian Bystander,
"Why would you dismiss Rush and the like?"
I have listened to pigbaugh for more than 10 painful years. I remember about 4 years ago he sounded like he was drunk. Callers calling saying rush you sound drunk! Went on for months. Pigbaugh says trouble with the equipment. Ha!
"so the lies must be confronted and exposed."
Does a cop hope for crime? Well, I hope not.
The left have been asleep at the switch. If it wasn't for clinton in the 90's we'd all be tattooed and living in ghettos. Still might happen.
Way back when you could hang on youngs st. drunk off your as* till 4:00am with no problem. Then the druggies moved in and I got tired of saying no thanks to a million offers of crack or heroin.
I have heard the auto building biz is doing OK in ontario. Even with decent wages they are competitive.
Canadian Fishing = Great
Ashcroft and Bush and Cheney will all be forgotten in 40 years...no self-respecting history book will give them more than 4 pages.
Of course, if by some treachery they get 4 more years, history will be abolished altogether...
...history will be abolished altogether...
science, too.
nature that doesn't involve a country club.
History books are not self respecting. History is written by the victors. Or, in this case, abolished.
Ex - Advisor Says Bush Eyed Bombing of Iraq on 9 / 11
NEW YORK (Reuters) - A former White House anti-terrorism advisor says the Bush administration considered bombing Iraq in retaliation after Sept. 11, 2001 even though it was clear al Qaeda had carried out the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.
Richard Clarke, who headed a cybersecurity board that gleaned intelligence from the Internet, told CBS ``60 Minutes'' in an interview to be aired on Sunday he was surprised administration officials turned immediately toward Iraq instead of al Qaeda and Osama bin Laden.
``They were talking about Iraq on 9/11. They were talking about it on 9/12,'' Clarke says.
Clarke said he was briefing President Bush and Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld among other top officials in the aftermath of the devastating attacks.
``Rumsfeld was saying we needed to bomb Iraq. ... We all said, 'but no, no. Al Qaeda is in Afghanistan,'' recounts Clarke, ``and Rumsfeld said, 'There aren't any good targets in Afghanistan and there are lots of good targets in Iraq.'''
Clarke, an advisor to four presidents, left his position in February 2003 after the White House transferred functions of the cybersecurity board to Homeland Security.
Clarke's comments are the latest to raise the question of the Bush administration's focus on overthrowing Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein.
Former Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill, fired in a shake-up of Bush's economic team in December 2002, told ``60 Minutes'' in an interview aired in January he never saw any evidence Iraq had weapons of mass destruction -- Bush's main justification for going to war.
O'Neill also charged that Bush entered office intent on invading Iraq and ousting its leader, Saddam Hussein.
``I think they wanted to believe that there was a connection'' between Iraq and al Qaeda, Clarke tells ``60 Minutes.''
``But the CIA was sitting there, the FBI was sitting there, I was sitting there, saying, 'We've looked at this issue for years. For years we've looked and there's just no connection,''' says Clarke.
WTF?!? cartoons?
do ya think he might have BETTER things to do , like getting ken lay, the plaime leaker, ect......
If the lawmaker did due diligence and visited all the advertised locations then all he'd have to do is count his credit card receipts when filling out his expense report. Assuming that each billboard represented one astablishment and he only visited each establishment once - otherwise there would be all the dividing and adding and such.
jimmiraybob
Where can I get this job? I can make sactimonious clucking noises too. I can also shake my fist angerly at imaginary evil-doers.
Does that mean I qualify? I sure would like a job counting dirty billboards.
Dear Dr. Morpheous,
We would like to thank you for the interest that you've expressesed in our "survey" law & order project. Your ability to make sactimonious clucking noises AND shake your fist angrily at imaginary evil-doers places you at the very top of the list (top 1% - exceptional skills group). We would like you to report to Bob's Pleasure Palace at exit 234 just off of hiway 70. Further employment arrangements will be negotiated in person and on site (bring $10- & $20-bills).
It is only in the last few years that Bush has taken on a meaning that is worse than cunt...
Jack - What if Eve Ensler (The Vagina Monologues) used the word "cunt" in a show? Should that be censored?
Who decides? What words? Where do you stop?
There may be things you don't want your kids to read. What's the best way to handle this - give some people in government the power to criminalize certain words and see where that heads in a few years - or just keep those publications away from your kids?
To all the trolls:
Remember there is a difference between saying "I don't like" something and saying "We should criminalize" something.
Be careful what you wish for, ye supporters of "less government".
Canadian Bystander:
We've been promoting that Harper's piece since we read it. It said not much we remember about Colmes' Complaint ("the left eat their own" [Rainbow Party style?]). It was rather about the cross-flagged truth Dean got crucified for: the Redneck with the traitor flag on his muddy pickup is the Rethug's greatest victim-and their greatest supporter.
Some people
are
stupid.
We'll fix it when we restore the public education and stop leaving children behind.
one lawmaker counted 45 sex-themed billboards along a 120-mile stretch of Interstate 70 between Kansas City and Columbia.
I wonder how he kept count?
mena
must have been hard after 21 
FWIW, Tony Millionaire has done a lot of graphics/animation work for They Might Be Giants, so he's far from a hack
Rall rules. Maakies is for aging hipsters.
Them is fighting words, alright.
Canadian Bystander, it wouldn't surprise me if the Harris government in Ontario wasn't the beneficiary of the sandbagging of the previous NDP government. When the NDP won control of a few provinces the big money people went ape and would have been doing everything in their power to destroy them. This happened in Sask. and B.C. too(well B.C.'s NDP didn't make the best choices either,).
If Kerry wins in the U.S. don't be surprised if big money doesn't do everything it can to destroy him too. They'd bring down the economy if it suited their long term interests. Luckily Tycoon Georgie seems to be doing everything to bring it down before Kerry can be blamed but that won't stop our media from blaming Kerry.
Clinton's great gift was that he was able to avoid their bullets and deliver economic expansion. That was a major accomplishment.
Bet this does prove to be nothing more than a publicity stunt. If you read his website, Tony Millionaire does seem to have a screw or two loose. You may have jumped on this one too soon.
Well golly gosh the only thing I can say is: FUCK THAT. God what a miserable little cunt Ashcroft is.
I'm thinking about starting a strip in my local weekly called "Jesus Christ Skullfuck Star". In every episode, Jesus is killed by a mob of drugcrazed leftwing hippies and hooknosed Jews. At the end of every strip my character comes in, beheads the dead Jesus, and skull fucks him through his eye sockets. But that darn Jesus foils the hippie and Jews every time, resurrecting himself just in time for the next weeks episode in which he gets killed, skullfucked, etc. Kind of like Kenny in South Park but more tasteful.
Its just good clean family fun. Think Ashcroft will mind?
...But that darn Jesus foils the hippie and Jews every time, resurrecting himself just in time for the next weeks episode in which he gets killed, skullfucked, etc. Kind of like Kenny in South Park but more tasteful.
Its just good clean family fun. Think Ashcroft will mind?
The Fool
well, as long as it's done tastefully and doesn't have any Calico cats he should be fine with it. oh, and make sure that the guy doing the skullfucking doesn't look like Pat Robertson and no pools of messy Santorum either
My New York correspondent tells me that - in anticipation of the Republican Convention - the City has begun shutting down Gay Bars and Strip Joints.
But where the Republicans go for entertainment?
Its just good clean family fun. Think Ashcroft will mind?
That sounds a bit like the strip here:
http://www.babysue.com/
Does Bush have to tone down the fratboy talk with Ashcroft? Somehow, I don't think he relishes a good conversation about "pussy."
Don't tread on my first Amendment rights Ashcroft! I've got these terrorist loving liberals right where I want them!
- GOP GIRL
Maybe I'll be out of place here, and perhaps no one will see this post so far down and so late anyway but as a left leaning individual ardently hoping that Kerry wins I have to say in all honesty that I am really thoroughly disgusted at dishonest attempts to try to turn disgusting swine like Howard Stern et.al into a first amendment issue. This embrace by certain ultraleftists of all that is revolting to the normal human psyche, and the domineering PEER PRESSURE they exert to try to COERCE other progressives into siding with them ONLY HURTS the progressive cause.
C'mon, progressives are right on the issues about 95% of the time but thinking people need to recognize that a small group of perverts is desperately attempting to shape the Democratic party in their own image and for their own benefit. No I am not a homophobe and I do recognize the need to protect the first amendment but by golly people get a %#&*!! backbone and don't let others dictate what you feel! The majority of Americans want decency in public matters (no I don't mean the hypocrital Dr. Laura kind) but you sideline a lot of people with your INSISTANCE and never ending focus on deviant sexual practices that to be "progressive" you have to EMBRACE rank repulsiveness.
Whew! Now back to the real issues.
I think decency in the sense that a guy can't steal a presidential election, loot the treasury, and get us into a war while obviously lying the entire time without the press and the public and politicians on both sides rising up and saying, "NO! That is political indecency and it has no part in our polite political society!"
You, Getting This Off, have fallen for the rightwing attempt to reduce decency to purely sexual terms. You know what? I got sick of Howard Stern several years ago. You know what I did? I stopped listening to him. I didn't feel the need to send federal agents to make him shut up so others who wanted to listen to him couldn't.
Why don't we send the FCC over to the White House to stop Bush's indecency the next time he accuses those who are critical of his fake wars of being traitors?
April Fools!
Bush is a cunt.
PS I would never really use "cunt" in my strip, kids can read that stuff.
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