I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
God is preparing lightning bolts for all of us right now.
Hey, I think that's our own Peter Carlin of The Oregonian!
Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.
I read that on the 5,000 pound stone thing in the Alabama courthouse.
So where do the outright lies of a demented Christian fit in the old inverted pyramid?
Christian Journalism 101:
Find out who, what, when, where and why. If the story doesn't exactly sing after that, make a lot of interesting stuff up. File your story. And now, the best part:
Sit back and feel God's pleasure. Rinse and repeat.
I don't know whether there's a God or not. But, if there is, I'm sure He's not a fucking liar as Kelley would have us believe. Is it possible that, after all these years, the people who claim to speak for God are just making shit up?
Note how he continues to swear by his stories, no matter how much evidence -- much of it
rock-solid, such as the drowned woman who turned up alive and well -- to the contrary.
well, I think he's just taking tips from the masters, after all, in that book those religious guys are always going on about (now a major motion picture) there's a couple of characters that are dead one day, get written up and then bam, alive and walking around a few pages later
Is it possible that, after all these years, the people who claim to speak for God are just making shit up?
Now, there's an understatement if there ever was one.
Obituary Notices
Death Revealed: The American free press expired early last year after suffering a long and debilitating illness caused by addiction to Republican press releases and chronic credibility deficiency syndrome. In a eulogy delivered at a memorial service University of California at Berkeley, it was disclosed that "journalists fear they will be seen as unpatriotic if they challenge White House statements, said Robert Sheer, a syndicated columnist for the Los Angeles Times."
http://www.contracostatimes.com/...mes/
8236112.htm
Although an autopsy has not yet been completed, many suspect foul play as the direct cause of death. Mourners are urged to send contributions to the John Kerry campaign in lieu of flowers.
There's really nothing about this that isn't appalling.
Feeling God's pleasure when you write and report? The fuck? How about feeling the pain and struggle of the people you're writing about? You're not the story. That's the second lesson he should have learned in school, right after Don't Make Shit Up.
A.
Note how he continues to swear by his stories, no matter how much evidence -- much of it
rock-solid, such as the drowned woman who turned up alive and well -- to the contrary.
Maybe his writing has miraculous properties.
It was great to see Blair's book bomb (despite the best efforts of Katy Couric, Chris Mathews and Larry-the-softball-King). I wonder if Kelly will get a book and movie deal? (Katy probably already has him for her next "get")
Yankeedoodle, how about instead of memorials to John Kerry, memorials to the Committee to Protect Journalists, which operates on behalf of the free press worldwide? Some of these motherfucking liars need to be reminded of how serious their job really is.
http://www.cpj.org
A.
When God speaks through you it's THE TRUTH. Facts are for fact checkers.
I got this vision of an apartment building with the number 925
What, no dolphins, like angels pushing him toward the right apartment?
Amateur!
Notice the even bigger silence on the use of anonymous sources?
Peggy--
No one considers you a journalist. Inserting Karl Rove's spin into columns just doesn't rate...
"Death Revealed: The American free press expired early last year after suffering a long and debilitating illness "
Goodby free press.
Goodby democracy
Goodby freedom
It was nice to know ya,hope our rules are not as brutal as most historical dictators.
I don't agree that the Blair plagarism didn't matter. It all matters, although clearly Kelley's lies were much more substantive than Blair's.
As you said in an earlier post, where are the calls for the Editor-in-Chief at USA Today to step down?
Note how he continues to swear by his stories, no matter how much evidence -- much of it
rock-solid, such as the drowned woman who turned up alive and well -- to the contrary.
I've always thought the reason for the maddening cognitive dissonance of the current Republican party was the result of the Christian fundamentalist's movement into that party over the past 20 years. It's the current face and personality of that party now. Of course, not the Jesus part of the faith but the smug obnoxious gorilla-side of monotheism. 'Faith' is the greatest cognitive dissonance of all. It's why republicans only want to believe what they only want to believe despite the facts and evidence. It's why hypocrisy continues to dog them and they don't care, because, after all, they're self-righteously right. They've got God on their side, after all. It's why they wrongly have a persecution complex. It's why it's so hard to reason with them. How do you reason with someone who already knows all the answers?
Kelley's fabrications were frequently inflammatory pieces on inflammatory issues.
Can you say "CIA Operative"?
You think one reason why Blair got so much attention was because he worked for that evil, "liberal" New York Times? I saw part of an interview with him with Bill O'Reilly, and O'Reilly just wanted him to say that the paper was full of liberals and therefore evil. Is there not a real liberal paper for these people to go after? Did they just deiced at random to say the Times is liberal?
But the more you read about Kelley, the more fascinating his lunacy becomes. Note how he continues to swear by his stories, no matter how much evidence -- much of it rock-solid, such as the drowned woman who turned up live and well -- to the contrary. He's the energizer bunny of liars, just beating that drum all the way across the room, out the door and down the hallway.
Looks like religiosity and maniacal self-delusion are inextricably linked.
Now why would this be, I wonder?
"Is there not a real liberal paper for these people to go after?"
I know of a good one. The Chicago Sun Times... in 1979.
Ya'll are nuttin buta buncha super-rationalists.
It's OK if you're white.
It's OK if you're a Republican.
It's OK if you're Christian.
OK. Good to know the rules...
Looks like religiosity and maniacal self-delusion are inextricably linked.
Now why would this be, I wonder?
Felix Deutsch
It's why their party is so aggressive now. Monotheism is extremely aggressive. It's why they don't care about the environment because Christians fundamentalists don't. The bible told them so they have dominion over it all to do what they want. It's not that Republicans want a fascist country. It's just that their ideology 'will have no other ideology before it.' Thou shalt have no other party than the Republican Party. And it's why it's impossible for them to realize they're crushing democracy and why they're so tireless at it. With religious zeal, they're wrecking the environment and destroying democracy here and they're not nuance-thinking enough to understand it.
The thing about the Jasyon Blair story was that it didn't matter. Sure it was egg on face of the New York Times, but his fabrications were almost entirely harmless and trivial.
That's debatable, but Blair wasn't caught earlier because his stories reinforced whatever the conventional wisdom was. Same thing with Stephen Glass.
Chritian fundamentalists don't do nuance. It's why their party is so anti-science. Because everything every human being should ever know is already known and it's written in the Bible.
The Real Reason Hubble Is Being Killed: The Wrath of the Religious Right
Now here's one that astounded even us, jaded as we have become by the excesses and outrages of the religious rightwingnuts. Working on a tip, we discovered that the Hubble Telescope has been at the center of a controversy involving the age of the universe and nature of star formation (overnight God trick or long-term process). The HST funding was declared withdrawn as the scope began to provide increasingly strong evidence of the Big Bang, and vast age of the Universe, thereby refuting assertions of creationist astronomers (yes, Virginia, there are such beings). here The creationists want to prove the universe is young enough to conform to Genesis. When Hubble said otherwise, the Bush Admin said "Off with its head! " This page shows how much HST figured into the creationists' ruminations.
here
Speaking as someone 'in the business', while I was appalled by the deceptions of Jayson Blair, I am practically incoherent with rage on Kelley, who - to me - committed a far greater crime against the public trust, and has yet to inspire a tenth of the journalistic navel-gazing and handwringing that followed the Blair revelations. I am not defending Jayson Blair; he violated his most sacred duty as a journalist: thou shalt not make shit up because it's easier than actually chasing down the story. But Kelley went beyond just making shit up -- his lies were, as pointed out, pithily, by our own Atrios, "inflammatory pieces on inflammatory issues".
He didn't just invent imaginary bystanders to give banal comments; he "looked into the eyes" of entirely imaginary suicide bombers, and "conducted interviews" with fake daughters of non-existant Iraqi generals. His lies spread fear and misinformation on issues that are already rife with complexity, and I don't even want to think about how many USA Today readers went on to form opinions on those issues based entirely on his lies.
Blair was a con man who got caught; Kelley is a sociopath, and he knew *exactly* what he was doing, and that it was wrong, as evidenced by his preparation of *scripts* that he would foist on individuals unlucky enough to be dragged into his web of deceit, to cover his own tracks.
And what depresses me even more is that he will likely become a posterchold martyr of the Christian right, and make thousands of dollars going on the lecture tour to rail about how a good Christian reporter was brought down by the forces of darkness within the secular media world. They live for that stuff. At least Blair seemed temporarily chastened, and admitted his lies. With Kelley, I expect that the lies have only just begun; it's only due to the diligence after the fact at USA Today. The paper, btw, does deserves some praise (albeit tempered with the obvious criticism for taking so long) for conducting a real investigation, and sticking to it, no matter how grim the eventual results would turn out to be.
I'm not clear as to what would qualify as a "firestorm in the media and blogging worlds." A simple search of google news reveals that hundreds of newspapers carry a story about Kelley. A google search for "Jack Kelley blog" similarly reveals hundreds of blogs that mention the scandal. Why isn't this a "firestorm"?
Just curious.
Damn, I sound almost panicked in those posts.
Get control over yourself man!
Bush isn't just destroying Hubble, he is destroying America (and the world).
The moronic god he 'worships' (aside from the Skull and Bone's buddy, Satan) is a god that periodically either destroys all living things or kills his own kid.
The moronic god he 'worships' (aside from the Skull and Bone's buddy, Satan) is a god that periodically either destroys all living things or kills his own kid.
Elaine Supkis
I had a really chilling email correspondence with a local fundamentalist I know. We've been each other's nemesis here for the last couple of years. Last week I wrote to him that if Bush, who he believes is a "good and decent man", get's another 4 years un-restrained, we're all doomed. His response to me was only, "That's why you need to get right with God."
Think about it...
I think that folk are maybe jumping into the lack of comment on the Kelley story a little fast. There was a huge amount of comment on the Blair episode, but relatively little on the day it started to come out.
The big issue in the Blair story was that the editors became implicated in a cover up. Lots of people in the newsroom had been asking questions, warning.
Now we don't yet know if the same thing happened here. I guess we will find out over the next few days.
Sure we know that large parts of the republican media is racism-friendly. Do we need this story to prove that? The fifteen year long failure to expose Trent Lott and Bob Barr's endorsements of racist groups is a rather better proof.
I think that folk are maybe jumping into the lack of comment on the Kelley story a little fast. There was a huge amount of comment on the Blair episode, but relatively little on the day it started to come out.
The big issue in the Blair story was that the editors became implicated in a cover up. Lots of people in the newsroom had been asking questions, warning.
Now we don't yet know if the same thing happened here. I guess we will find out over the next few days.
Sure we know that large parts of the republican media is racism-friendly. Do we need this story to prove that? The fifteen year long failure to expose Trent Lott and Bob Barr's endorsements of racist groups is a rather better proof.
The Hubble thing is infuriating. UGH!!
The Republican Party and especially the Christian fundamentalists in it are going to get us all killed and I don't see any way to prevent it. It seems like fate to me; already written in the stars. It's inevitable. It's hard to get enthusiastic about the democratic candidate when I know it wont stop anything. They can't be stopped only consumed along with us in their own fires. I'm not being defeatist. Just show me one example in history when it hasn't been so.
"Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.
I read that on the 5,000 pound stone thing in the Alabama courthouse."
I've always wondered how these politically active fundies could openly lie about and slander political opponents and still profess to be such good Christians. Maybe that's why they need the 10 Commandments posted everywhere, because they need constant reminding...
The ultra-sad state of American "journalism" where the needs of corporate profit trump every other value.
We've got to find a better way, before we destroy ourselves.
Gotta keep kickin' these clowns in the nads with the truth. Make'em squeal like the rethugs and freeptards here who regurgitate thier slop.
(Sorry about venting. I feel much better now . . .)
Googled him and found out he's--er, used to be--on the faculty of the "World Journalism Institute". Here's his bio. (Thank Google for the cache!) Check the names/affiliations of the faculty--lots of 'Christian' colleges, the Moonie Times, the Neocon Standard, etc.
Peter Carlin is a pretty cool guy too. He's the tv/entertainment type of reporter for the Oregonian. Some of you might want to go to Oregonlive.com and look under the archives for Peter because he once took on O'Reilly and his claims about stuff and just ripped him apart. O'Reilly actually left him a phone message and Peter ripped him on it. Funny stuff.
It's not just Christian fundamentalism. It's also the confluence and zeal of ideology, corporate greed, cult of personality, repressed sexuality, among many others all now embodied within the Republican Party. That's why they're able to blithely tool along taking us all down with them. One of those factors would be hard enough to counter. But they're all there now, interwoven. And what is there to stop it? We have a weak rational Democratic Party and an ignorant and apathetic public. That's all.
Oh well. I guess things will work out for the best. They always have....
It is one thing for him to say that he is a christian. Another to say he is an evangelical christian which is the nazi wing of the christian faith.
If he was trying to get through the right doors he sure had the right password.
Kelley: "Psst I'm a christian..."
Doorman: "Not good enough bub."
Kelley: "I'm an evangelical christian.."
Doorman: "Well! Right this way sir!"
MYOB'
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It's called 'serving a Higher Truth', and the government is in the hands of people who find it laudable.
Blair? Kelley? As an Englishman skimming this post, I am very confused
And what depresses me even more is that he will likely become a posterchold martyr of the Christian right, and make thousands of dollars going on the lecture tour to rail about how a good Christian reporter was brought down by the forces of darkness within the secular media world.
He'll take a two-tiered approach with this: 1.) He'll admit that he "made mistakes", and ask for the forgiveness of his readers. It's the Christian thing to forgive, after all. (This is Bush's strategy with his personal history.)
2.) He'll state that he was "inspired to speak the Truth that mere facts could not convey." (a la Mel Gibson's take on the attacks on "TPOTC"'s ahistoricity.)
Both of these should go down well with his core constituents. He'll then write a book, and get hired at the Heritage Foundation or some other right-wing loonybin.
Before Bush, I could take or leave those who believed in Christianity. Now I've come to feel a complete revulsion for any form of fundamentalist, absolutist belief, religious or not. The Bible has become just another in a line of inspirational, propagandistic fairy tales.
And to think that Bush was pandering to the Religious Right when he proposed defunding the Hubble Space Telescope, because it provides evidence that the Universe was not created instantaneously by God....
Excuse me while I take anti-nausea medication.
And what depresses me even more is that he will likely become a posterchold martyr of the Christian right, and make thousands of dollars going on the lecture tour to rail about how a good Christian reporter was brought down by the forces of darkness within the secular media world. They live for that stuff.
And they conveniently ignore the incredible seriousness with which most journalists regard their craft.
Cookie, I'm not happy this happened but I'm happy you're angry. The trade needs to be outraged about this and completely intolerant towards it. This needs to be the Unbreakable Rule, and anyone who violates it should be cast out and shunned in public. And yes, Mike Barnicle, you human scum, I'm talking about you. Get your smug ass off MSNBC.
A.
The mission of the World Journalism Institute:
There is one primary reason why the World Journalism Institute should be committed to the education of young journalists: it comes directly from the need to be faithful to the Christian example of accurately reporting (e.g., being reliable eyewitnesses) the work of God in today's world.
We at WJI believe it is now time to implement a new phase of this statement in order to help turn out journalists capable of presuppositional reporting. WJI has the right kind of professional and academic support network established for a venture of this kind.
The practical need for Christian worldview journalists in our contemporary society is self-evident, but to simply note the obvious, there is the urgent need to provide journalistic "salt" and "light" and "leaven" within the mainstream media as a manifestation of our Christian obligation to lovingly model justice to our society
.
For decades, WJI's parent corporation, God's World Publications, has stood against the cultural, intellectual, and spiritual degradation of our society. GWP has placed its focus on reporting from a unapologetic Christian point of view.
Now we have grouped together an outstanding stable of Christian journalists, editors, and graphic artists. To this group we have added nationally known Christian theologians and apologists. A truly unique learning experience for current and aspiring Christian journalists has been created.
At WJI we form a new cadre of tough-minded, warm-hearted, expertly trained Christian journalists for a new generation. Our courses are not writing workshops, or summer camps for essayists. For the most part, we don't care much about opinion pieces. What we care about is how students view and accurately report God's activity in the world.
The Institute programs are intensive, and not designed for the faint-hearted or weak-minded. WJI is only a start, but we believe that if interested students can give us some of their lives, we can hone their skills to become a new crop of competent journalists.
Most of our graduates enter the mainstream newrooms to provide quality journalism for the mass media.
And here's the mission of their parent company, God's World Publications.
Here's the crux of the WJI mission:
For the most part, we don't care much about opinion pieces. What we care about is how students view and accurately report God's activity in the world.
If a "liberal" group of journalists had such a manifesto, one can only imagine the howls of indignation from... well, mainly the roster of the WJI.
And here's that WJO roster.
Lots of the usual suspects...
Sorry, "WJI"...
Stars from the WJI roster:
Johnny "B.C." Hart!
Cal Thomas!
Gregg Easterbrook!
John Fund!
Michelle Malkin!
Fred Barnes!
Lotsa Moonie Times staffers, too...
dave, oh, holy fucking shit, no pun intended ...
A.
And their page of links helpfully directs you to the Moonie Times, the WSJ, and Whorowitz's FrontPage!
Nothing to see here... move along...
More good links from the WJI:
Alliance Defense Fund
The Independent Women's Forum
The Rutherford Institute
The Institute for American Values
You get the idea...
"I don't know whether there's a God or not. But, if there is, I'm sure He's not a fucking liar"
What about all those fossils he left to fool everyone, and the DNA common to all life...Oh, wait, that was Satan
If I remember correctly, the dumbing down of America was supposed to produce a generation of left wing, stoned, libertine, welfare taking, new age, hippies.
Look what we got instead. Elmer Gantry x 50,000,000
Why couldn't it have been the other choice?
"equivalent of murder." Come on Atrios, get a grip, you're losing it man. I'm finding it harder and harder to take you seriously.
This is sort of OT, but I wondered if anyone had heard this.
Yesterday I had my haircut, and my stylist, who grew up near Detroit, like s to go clubbing there with all her friends. She told me that one of them, who works at one of the clubs, told her that ClearChannel has started to buy them up. It has apparently told the old emplyees that their continued employment will depend on the results of a credit check. If they have a lot of debt and poor credit, it demonstrates that they are irresponsible. ClearChannel doesn't want such people working for them.
I've heard of drug-testing, but this seems extreme. Are they worried about people stealing? Are those that have good credit more reliable? Well, we know that's not true, don't we?
However, the fact that ClearChannel is even getting involved in this kind of business is even more worrisome.
"The Real Reason Hubble Is Being Killed: The Wrath of the Religious Right"
Very nice link..THank for the laughs.get this one theory.
"This diagram depicts events occurring at various times and places during the fourth day of creation according to one version of my theory. I’ve simplified the figure and exaggerated some of the times disproportionately for clarity. The main feature is the large ‘timeless zone’ in gray which expands out from the center and then inward back toward it. Inside the zone, nothing happens. Clocks don’t tick, and physical processes are stopped at whatever state they were in when the zone engulfed them. Billions of years worth of events occur in the distant cosmos while the earth experiences no time at all. After the earth’s clocks resume again, they measure only twenty-four ordinary hours total during the fourth day. "
You just got to love the thinking behind these dumbass creationist.It's no wonder why the world is in such dire straits.(you get your money for nothin and your chicks for free)
BTW, Monday's the day Howie the Whore has his little online chat with readers (the one where he ignores the vast majority of the questions). If you want to ask him why he's giving Kelley a pass after so enthusiastically throwing the rope over the tree for Jayson Blair, have at it!
In an administration filled with ironic actions, Sick Of It All, what's happened to NASA and space science- and happening to the NIH and biological science- is par for the course.
The Bu$h crime syndicate views NASA as a more-or-less (mostly less) civilian equivalent of Star Wars. They could care less about actually establishing bases on the moon or Mars. They do see a potential blank check if they can con the public into swallowing their hook.
As you accurately point out, they feel absolutely threatened by real space science. They have to realize there is no way to do relatively safe space travel without a lot more research and quality control. But they've given the orders for no more shuttle missions until Congress eliminates the scant q.c. they already have in order to facilitate "privitization".
Sean O'Keefe wants to eliminate these rules for his contractor buddies, some of which he sits on advisory boards for, and is holding the Hubble hostage until they're eliminated.
In reality, this is just an effort to give the keys to the NASA bank to private contractors.
However, the fact that ClearChannel is even getting involved in this kind of business is even more worrisome.
pie
that's the first I've heard of this, but it doesn't surprise me. more vertical integration, where they control the airwaves, booking and now even more of the venues. where's Teddy Roosevelt when you need him?
It's called "lying for the lord".
I've heard of drug-testing, but this seems extreme. Are they worried about people stealing? Are those that have good credit more reliable? Well, we know that's not true, don't we?
However, the fact that ClearChannel is even getting involved in this kind of business is even more worrisome.
pie
I've had an extreme check into my background. Any criminal, driving and credit and I work at a job they don't need to do that. They claimed after 911 they had to. But they didn't need to when I was first hired several years before 911. I think it was just an opportunity for corporate to weed out people. Who knows but I was very resentful signing the waiver for it. But what can you do? That's another reason I want out of this country.
what this country needs is freedom from religion...no offical religion-no
unoffical religion...no religion at all unless it is kept inside the individual head and never mentioned to
anyone else...religion should be completely personal and only between the individual and whatever they believe in...end of wars...end of sectarian slaughter...end of bullshit...if there is a god it dosen't need any help from any human to get the
message out...everything ever uttered by a human was made up by that human
without any holy intervention...the
churches are nothing but a tax on the suckers and a loss in taxable property
to the rest of us...tax the churches
and see how holy the bastards really
are...sorry alittle OT...
The thought occurs that if they want to keep the youth of today from becoming a bunch of godless hedonists (like us), they might try to control all places where kids get together (kids being everyone under 40!).
It would be like the Wal-Mart-ization of the club scene...
dave, the guy who I've been emailing back and forth with, the one I posted about earlier, works for Alliance Defense Fund. They make no effort at hiding their desire to turn America into a Theocracy. Check out all those websites, folks. So I asked him where their funding comes from one time and the bastard lied. Many people who are Christians and who aren't really anti-gay, don't realize that for years, a portion of their tithes and offerings given in their mainline churches, is quietly directed toward their very un-American activities and anti-gay crusade.
"what this country needs is freedom from religion..."
How much more truthful can we get?The RR would call for you head should you ever get heard outside this forum.I hate the religiousness of the world.Wars are started for someone's "god".How many wars are not started over god I wonder.And before you tell me Iraq I would caution you that the (Mis)administration brought jesus jumpers in right after the paratroopers hit the ground in Iraq.Politics and religion are a match made in the bible and only there.WHen we get them seperated we will find a great burden lifted from the shoulders of humanity.
And of course now, they're getting all our money through tax contributions, atheist, gay and straight alike, from governmental pork.
I think I got this from an Atrios commentor, but since so many of y'all have asked why this particular brand of "Christian" can get away with lying through their teeth, here's a link:
http://tinyurl.com/3b752
It's a bit long but very informative. In short, these Dominionists don't care if what they do is perceived as "right" or "wrong", as long as they get the desired result. Mix Machiavellianism with Christianity, and voila! You got your BushCo brand of Jebus-worship. Or, even short, IOIFYAR.
Sick Of It All,
Thanks for the Hubble link. It breaks my heart the brain-dead creationists have so much pull that they're gonna be able to shut that down. I cannot understand why some people seem to enjoy living in total ignorance, but I know why they hate science: it proves them and the Bible wrong, wrong, wrong. The universe is a wonderous place, why close off your mind because of something written by a bunch of whacked-out desert nomads 2000 years ago?
And the articles from "Creation" magazine...fuckin' hilarious.
They have Alliance Defense Fund offices in my small backwater town and each state has ADF state offices. No shit. I called them and heard people working in the background. Working to send gays to concentration camps, manning phones and bringing down democracy on my dime. Why do you think they have such contempt for the Constitution that they would vandalize it as they're doing now?
This isn't a conspiracy folks. It's in plain sight for everyone to know. But people have a hard time accepting the reality of it. They're going to win.
ADF is only one of many such Christian fundamentalist organizations. Their particular religious nut specialty is persecuting gays.
Oh, and OT, but Rhea County, Tenn., getting all the free publicity it could handle, reversed it's decision to ban gays. Via the Guardian:
http://tinyurl.com/2vrzx
There's a lovely little quote from a seventh-grade girl about how she don't want no nasty fags in her Christian community. Me, I'm just waiting for her to have that first confused, semi-lesbian experience in college...
Completely OT, but:
For all Whovians on this blog, Christopher Eccleston (of 28 Days Later, Elizabeth etc), has been announced as the next Doctor!
Saw a headline on the BBC News website today: the Conservative leader Michael Howard thinks the UK economy should be more like the one in the States. Um, hello?
I thought George W. Bush was the "energizer bunny of liars" -- and wouldn't that be a cool campaign ad: a Bush-bunny figure, beating the drum and announcing, "Tax cuts will help the economy! Iraq was behind 9/11! Well, they have WMD! More tax cuts will help the economy this time! Iraq is a real threat to us! (maybe a reference to Kerry's record, distorted)" And then someone says, "The president who keeps lying, and lying, and lying."
We can all discuss this academically until the cows roost and the crows come home but the further-muckers are winning.
TheaLogie,
And here I thought I was the only Whovian. That's good news - cause I do love me some Doctor Who. Apart from the obvious - Tom Baker, of course - I've always been partial to the somewhat out-of-control sixth Doctor as portrayed by Colin Baker.
Guess they weren't too pleased with Paul McGann, either. Frankly, apart from the whole kissing the companion deal, I sorta liked "The Enemy Within".
But we have to dig everything up because Jesus is coming soon and he wants us to use his gifts before he returns.
Gee, it's hot down here.
"We can all discuss this academically until the cows roost and the crows come home but the further-muckers are winning."
The truth hurts.But the real problem is,when they're done converting America to a religious state,the real task begins.Converting the whole world is their real aim,and they wont be happy till they get every man woman and child to "BELIEVE".
Like the man says.....
DO YOU BELIEVE?!?!?!?!?!!
Fuck that.
jeez, WWJD.
That's right smalfishAKA Bob. These people think big. I've always thought that had Christianity never taken hold, or any monotheism, human beings and their societies would be about 1000 years more advanced scientifically by now. Which means we would probably be exploring other solar systems out there in the Universe. Christianity caused the Dark Ages and has blocked science ruthlessly for 2000 years in Western Civilization. Had that not happened, we would be able to move to our own planet and get away from them. But there they are, domestic and foreign fundamentalists, forever pulling us all down with them.
Sick Of It All
The problem with that theory is tha if not christianity it would be Islam or judeasim or even fuckitism.
Anything to pervert the normal mind to idealism and radicalism.
The average human being does'nt need to be saved for the hereafter it needs to be saved from itself.
The dark ages once again bear down on humanity in the form of GWB and his RR fanatics.I dont know exactly brought humaity out of the dark ages.I believe it was science.If so we can be sure thaat history will not be allowed to repeat itself.
Ya know, I'm beginning to think they shouldn't let folks have any access to religious materials until they're 18 or so. Like porn, you just can't see it if you're a kid. If that nonsense wasn't pounded in your head from the cradle, you would not believe a word of it.
I went to get groceries last night and had the car radio tuned to a talk station. Some cat called up (I think) Bruce Williams and was trying to argue how evolution had been scientifically proven false and creationism was the only way to go. Everytime Bruce would negate one of the creationist's points, he'd just make an entirely different, unrelated one. He didn't try to argue his original point or give anything silly like proof. He just kept dancing around until the deejay cut him off.
Tax the churches!
You know, there's another obvious reason why this story hasn't gained traction yet the way that the Jayson Blair story did: Jayson Blair was committing his fabrications at the New York Times, for goodness' sake -- the newspaper which is still synonymous with "Journalism" in the eyes of the public; Jack Kelley, on the other hand, worked for USA Today -- the newspaper you find outside your door at the Holiday Inn in the morning. The McPaper.
In reality, of course, USA Today has been steadily improving as a journalistic entity for years now; it really is a pretty decent little national paper these days. But still, the impression of USA Today in people's minds is of the colorful paper with cute little pie charts in the corner showing that America is eating more cabbage.
Journalists, and people who closely follow the news, understand well just how hideous this scandal is; but it's going to take a lot of drumbeating for the public at large to figure it out.
More good links from the WJI:
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The Rutherford Institute
Having done so over at Talk Left earlier, I'm now going to defend the Rutherford Institute for the second time today. I will freely admit that their interpretation of the Establishment Clause differs from mine (yours, too, probably); likewise, their views on abortion rights. Similarly, I will admit that they were largely responsible for foisting Paula Jones on the world.
However, despite that, lumping them in with the Left Behind crowd is remarkably unfair to them. The Rutherford Institute has much more in common with the ACLU than with the folks who want to impose Baptist Sharia on the world. They've been filing amicus briefs right alongside the ACLU in the Jose Padilla and other similar post-PATRIOT cases (in fact, their web site quite amusingly refers to the PATRIOT Act as part of "Operation Eroding Freedom"), for instance; they've also argued against the death penalty and "zero tolerance" policies in schools. And while they are unabashedly pro-Religion in their outlook, they also agreed with Lawrence v. Texas, and seem to be generally supportive of same-sex marriages.
I don't agree with them on everything, but I still put them in the "good guys" category, on the whole.
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Someone PLEASE post a link to ALL published pieces by Jack Kelley in USA Today.
thank you
Backslide: re Bruce Williams, the financial advice radio guy fending off creationists? I can imagine the topic was buying life insurance for the pending apocalypse.
I had heard before and you can infer from his cartoons that Johnny B.C. Hart shares his xian leanings. So I get this uncomfortable feeling that B.C. comic strips have been the primary text for teaching early human history to several generations of kids. Is that also what this Kelley controversy is about? Exposing a subliminal context to journalism?
faith-brainwashed stupidity...
wrote that 15 years ago in me journal!
jeebus freeks realize that the dumbest among us are their friends
One reason Jayson Blair's lies received way more attention than Jack Kelley's:
The NYTimes is the closest thing this country has to a media institution like the BBC; it's a newspaper every journalist in America aspires to write for, and it sets the agenda for every other media outlet in this country (even the Murdoch empire defines itself as being the anti-NYTimes). USA Today, OTOH, is perceived as a hotel/airline freebie with little muscle behind it.
I encourage everyone here to read Thomas Frank's ONE MARKET UNDER GOD, whih has a terrific chapter on the media, and Gannett (USA Today's publisher) in particular. Frank was very prescient in his analysis of USA Today.
But it's USA Today we're talking about. Does anybody look to them for journalistic standards, etc? Which is not a defense of Kelley but rather the anemic public response to the Kelley story.
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