I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
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Did one of his friends offer to annoint his head in Crisco? Just curious.
Siegenthaler said the examination indicated that some people outside the paper were involved in helping Kelley cover up the fabrications. Inside the paper, no one was implicated, he said, though Kelley clearly had a number of "supporters and admirers."
Obviously, his fellow moles at the WJI.
livin up to it's name "worthless news today".
Outsiders helped fabricate. Who I wonder?
I suspect three in particular,
The Father, th Son, and that lying weasel the Holy Ghost!
Ya really need to ask who?
I do believe the preznit gave Mr. Kelley all kinds of turkee.
BTW, Monday's Howie the Whore's day for his little online chat. YOu might want to ask him why he's so reticent to cover this (in favor of paragraph after paragraph of Unka Karl's dictation)...
Tom Friedman must be sooo jealous.
I would give anything to see the Swiss bank accounts of all these media whores. You just KNOW that given their fine ethics and morality that they would sell themselves to the highest bidder.
No one believes that their ideology drives them. Money is the driving force behind everything in this world.
Hey, it turned out Limbaugh was a major drug addict, and countless other right wing bloviators have been exposed as frauds, so I think that my theory is not far fetched.
Howard, how long have you been such a fucking republican WHORE? I understand you make enough money shilling for their lies and spreading their propaganda, but as a human being, what does it feel like to actually WHORE yourself in order to get more stories from the single worst administration in American history?
Oh, and one more question, when did you first realize you wanted to become a WHORE when you were grown up?
The above being my submission to Howard Kurtz online chat.
Oh, I'm so excited. I hope he answers my question!
Tee hee!
Better yet Jack, ask him why he doesn't report on his own conflicts in interest in his column. After all, his wife is a big rethug muckety muck.
The whore thing I believe is genetic.
Hey, kids, speaking of cats who have a LOT to answer for, guess who's coming to Athens at the end of March? Why, it's that old game-spoiler himself, Ralph Nader. He's gonna give a speech on the UGA campus and, oh be still my naughty heart, there's gonna be a question-and-answer session afterwards.
You have no idea how much I'm looking forward to this. As a former with a capital "F" supporter, I have a few rather pointed questions to ask Mr. Nader.
Reverend, I expect a complete and full report. With photos please. 
We're counting on ya, bud.
Ask Ralph if he's planning to go to Ontario and marry Grover Norquist.
Always said if JC came back today the Repubs would whore him out. Anyone can be bought.
This Kelley story is amazing!
Who else in the "mainstream" was wise to Kelley and his ilk? Could it have influend the NYT and Pravda confecting those memos "clarifying" unnamed sourcing policy?
Ask yourself; Why would Nader appear at that hot bed of liberal thought, the University of Gawga?
A classy guy:
Mr. Kerry awoke determined to hit the slopes of Mount Baldy. The image-conscious candidate and his aides prevailed upon reporters and photographers to let him have a first run down the mountain solo, except for two agents and Marvin Nicholson, his omnipresent right-hand man.
His next trip down, a reporter and a camera crew were allowed to follow along on skis — just in time to see Mr. Kerry taken out by one of the Secret Service men, who had inadvertently moved into his path, sending him into the snow. When asked about the mishap a moment later, he said sharply, "I don't fall down," then used an expletive to describe the agent who "knocked me over."
OT, but atrios, you really should take a look at this...
I knew Rumsfeld was calling for an invasion and bombing campaign against IRAQ on 9-11. I already knew that. It's common knowledge.
But I didn't know THIS:
Richard Clarke, who headed a cybersecurity board that gleaned intelligence from the Internet, told CBS ``60 Minutes'' in an interview to be aired on Sunday he was surprised administration officials turned immediately toward Iraq instead of al Qaeda and Osama bin Laden.
``They were talking about Iraq on 9/11. They were talking about it on 9/12,'' Clarke says.
Clarke said he was briefing President Bush and Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld among other top officials in the aftermath of the devastating attacks.
``Rumsfeld was saying we needed to bomb Iraq. ... We all said, 'but no, no. Al Qaeda is in Afghanistan,''' recounts Clarke, ``and Rumsfeld said, 'There aren't any good targets in Afghanistan and there are lots of good targets in Iraq.'''
Oh-my-fucking-God...
He was senile back then, too...
Above post is via Blah3.com, forgot to credit The Editor for that one...
Later,
Dem presidential candidate John Kerry called his secret service agent a "son of a bitch" after the agent inadvertently moved into his path during a ski mishap in Idaho, sending Kerry falling into the snow.
When asked a moment later about the incident by a reporter on the ski run, Kerry said sharply, "I don't fall down," the "son of a b*itch knocked me over."
The Secret Service agent in question has complained about Kerry's treatment, top sources tell the DRUDGE REPORT.
Last month, Kerry began receiving Secret Service protection.
"Obviously, the complications and burden of being monitored 24-hours a day is not just an a simple inconvenience," a government source explained Friday. "But Senator Kerry should understand agents are working for his safety and well-being."
On Friday, Kerry, his snowboard strapped to his back, hiked past 9,000 feet on Durrance Peak, then snowboarded down the mountain, taking repeated tumbles. Reporters counted six falls, although Kerry was out of sight for part of the descent.
four legs,
Oh, I intend to have a whole lot of Jello Biafra-approved fun with this. Actually, I found out about it at the local war anniversary to-do today. My drummer, who was at the event (and is the only other politically conscience member of my band) quipped, "We should ask him he's running this time out of hubris or is he's just being an asshole."
rev, I suspect it's both.
Richard,
Athens is a pretty weird town, really. There's the college students - which, by a recent study, shows 'em to be mostly upper-middle class white kids from less than 100 miles away - who're more or less apolitical. There's a strong conservative bent you'd expect to find in the South, as well as more well-to-do conservative type from the folks who do business in Atlanta. The townies - musicians, artists, writers, whatnot - range from apolitical to radical lefties to the odd libertarian. Then there's the nutballs like me. I'm assuming that's who Ralph's coming to speak to, like he did back in 2000.
There's a fairly populous Green contingent made up of aging hippies, but frankly, they couldn't find their collective asses with a map. The guy they ran for a comission seat - a serious dipstick that I had the misfortune to work with at my restaurant job - was the candidate because none of the others would do it. It's a fairly typical sentiment here, I'm afraid.
Off the subject...
This is Bush's new catch phrase (easy to remember...cocaine apparently doesn't help the brain cells).
"Bush went on to deride Kerry for 'proposing a lot of new federal spending' without explaining how he would pay for it.
'There’s a gap between Senator Kerry’s spending promises and Senator Kerry’s promises of a lower deficit. It’s what I call a tax gap,' Bush said. 'Given Senator Kerry’s record of supporting tax increases, it’s pretty clear how he’s going to fill the tax gap — he’s going to tax all of you.' http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4568925/
Can everyone repeat "tax-gap, tax-gap, tax-gap."
How many times will we hear this phrase tomorrow on MTP, etc.? Any guesses?
four legs good - "rev, I suspect it's both." LOL
Hey rev, ask ol' Ralphie about his stock portfolio, will you? Ask which corporations he's living off of, and give us the list. I want to match it up with his anti-corporate work and see who he's attacking, and who their rivals are. Then ask him how come he won't let his employees join unions.
I call my pool boy a "dumb beaner" when he gets in the way of my sun.
Clarke says the last time the CIA had picked up a similar level of chatter was in December, 1999, when Clarke was the terrorism czar in the Clinton White House.
Clarke says Mr. Clinton ordered his Cabinet to go to battle stations-- meaning, they went on high alert, holding meetings nearly every day.
That, Clarke says, helped thwart a major attack on Los Angeles International Airport, when an al Qaeda operative was stopped at the border with Canada, driving a car full of explosives.
Clarke harshly criticizes President Bush for not going to battle stations when the CIA warned him of a comparable threat in the months before 911.
"He never thought it was important enough for him to hold a meeting on the subject, or for him to order his National Security Adviser to hold a Cabinet-level meeting on the subject."
Finally, says Clarke, "The cabinet meeting I asked for right after the inauguration took place-- one week prior to 911."
In that meeting, Clarke proposed a plan to bomb al Qaeda's sanctuary in Afghanistan, and to kill bin Laden.
Click on the URL for the link to CBS news
Tena,
I just wanna know where the hell he's been for the past three years, apart from writing letters to corporations and publications. Hell, I do that. Maybe I should run for president...guarantee you the inaugeration party would kick serious ass.
Seriously, the main reason I went Green was because I felt let down by the Clinton-Gore administration. I really feel the Greens did a good thing bringing attention to the stranglehold the two-party system has on elections, despite the incredibly regrettable outcome of the election (which I don't blame solely on Nader, but his actions did play a part). I just wanna know where he went when the people who believed in him really needed him.
I'm also gonna try to ask him if he's even tried working with the Kerry camp, considering how important winning this election is. Afterwards, when Bush is gone, we can work on the problems within the Democratic party and/or work for a viable third party. Now, it just seems he's not even trying to see if there's room for a compromise.
And I apologize for turning the thread to Nader. I know how ugly it gets sometimes. Sorry, friends and neighbors.
wtf? "atrios" lies his head off on a daily basis and here he is feigning outrage when others do it?
Oh, I think "Hack" refers to Glenn Reynolds and "Crazy Andy" is the name "atrios" has been against Andrew Sullivan since Sullivan nailed "atrios"'s sorry, lying ass in that radio broadcast.
It is very childish of "atrios" to use name-calling against his betters.
Hey, Atrios, you don't have to funnel any more money to me. I'm gonna raise dollars selling pictures of me and Ms Ketchup having sex.
Hey, the hit-and-run like a whipped dog troll hat's back. Groovy. I need a good a laugh. Been one of them weeks.
rev - that's ok. I understand your feelings about it and I think your question is the best one of all - where the hell have you been, Ralph? Actually, I can't figure out where he's been since he announced he was running, appeared on several TV shows, and then disappeared again.
I've said before that I think a viable 3d party would be a fine thing - once we get rid of Bush. Since you agree, I'll be curious to hear what Ralph says about it.
It's just not a good week for me when the gym coach isn't banning me.
Spit in your eye and tell ya it's raining:
“I’m all for united action, and so are our 34 coalition partners in Iraq right now,” he(bush) said. “Yet America must never outsource America’s national security decisions to the leaders of other countries.”
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4568374
Tena,
Agreed. I think most of us can admit that, one way or another, we haven't had anything close to an "ideal" candidate for president in...well, I don't know when. We've got a long, long way to go to fix what's wrong with the sytem and what's wrong with our country. It just bothers me that a guy like Nader - with so much support and ability to fix things - seems intent on being a gadfly. Bypass McAuliffe and the DNC, go straight to the Kerry people and say, "Okay, I'm ready to help if you'll have me. Let's kick some Bush ass."
If the Kerry people won't work with Nader - which, as long as we're playing hypotheticals, would be a massive mistake - then he'd be right in some of the things he says, I think. As it stands now, he reminds me of the guy who pisses in the punchbowl because he's convinced himself the pretty girl won't dance with him.
Hey hat - I gave you an assignment. You are supposed to be writing to James Wolcott and whining to him for calling your man Sully a "performing flea." Oh, he also has this to say: "It is Atrios, not Andrew Sullivan, who is in ascendance in the blogosphere." He also calls some things Sully has written "preposterous."
Ok, get cracking - you should be writing to those letters of protest to Vanity Fair for being so mean to your little teddy bear.
Rev - well, the idea of Kerry working with Nader is, if you'll pardon me, kind of strange really. What is it that they could work on together? Kerry is the most liberal candidate we've had running since maybe John or Bobby Kennedy. I don't quite understand what it is that some on the left find so objectionable. Sure, he's loaded, but they all are - Nader is too. Basically, I think Big John will be a hell of a progressive president if Congress doesn't just shut the government down trying to kill him. So I really can't see where there is any place that a partnership of sorts would gain anything for either of them or for us. I don't trust Nader - sorry, but I have known at least one person who knew Nader and doesn't trust him anymore - I can only go with that and my own gut, which tells me he is way less than forthcoming about himself or his ideas.
Anyway - enough about the poisonous subject. Sorry to get off on it. I really don't care one way or another. I just think once in awhile that someone should ask Ralph about himself and his dealings and his conflicts of interest.
Wolcott is a fat, washed up hack. Next.
Tena: my assignment for you is to tell me what rung law school st. mary's is. hint: bottom.
gee Tena,
Kerry, John and Bobby Kennedy: Guess what? ALL Roman Catholics.
John Kerry - I have no idea about St. Mary's and don't know why you asked. I have several friends who went there, and two of them are the smartest lawyers I know and are very rich as a result.
I don't know how you wingers got the idea I went there - I didn't. I went to SMU.
Tena,
Honestly - and I'm with you, the last word on this subject - my trust in Nader is at low ebb, if that's not already apparent. What he could bring to the Kerry camp, really, is numbers. Them that don't trust Kerry's status as a Washington insider (a tag I've always smelled horseshit on; look happens when an "outsider" gets in). And...that's about it. While I agree with the whole anti-corporate meme, that particular chokehold on the U.S. government isn't gonna be broken for a long, long time. Maybe not in my lifetime, and if it is, it's not gonna be pretty for us plebians.
As for Kerry himself, while I supported Kucinich and Dead in that order, Kerry's a very satisfiable third. He's got a good record on liberal issues in Congress, particularly when it comes to the environment and women's issues. On the corporate question, well...he's a player, sure, but that's just an indication that the game needs to be changed more than anything else.
Frankly, the only thing I'm uncomfortable with Kerry is that he's yet to say "Bush lied to us. He lied to Congress" concerning Iraq. And I think he's just saving that one up.
I'll see your Kennedys and Kerrys and raise you a Mel Gibson. And I'm tired of this subject. My grandmother was catholic, I have no particular problem with catholics, I have a problem with organized religion. That's all I'm going to say about it.
Damn, you've gotta click on that "defended Kelley" link, some fine reading pleasure there... here's something from the first post:
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Didn't USA Today editors see the red flags?
3/20/2004 2:31:14 PM
From KATHRYN QUIGLEY, assistant professor of journalism, Rowan University, Glassboro, NJ: Just got done reading the USA Today opus on Jack Kelley. Good Lord! My jaw is hanging to the ground I am so shocked. I remember reading about this way back when and thinking, "This guy is certainly protesting an awful lot, he seems sure of himself, so maybe he really didn't fabricate." Boy was I wrong.
Here is the part of the series that struck me the most, the quote in the sidebar that reads: "In at least 10 cases, Kelley wrote that he watched someone die." WHAT? Didn't that raise red flags to anyone? I was a daily reporter for 12 years. I saw my share of dead bodies (from car accidents, etc., covered in sheets) but no one ever died RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME. TEN TIMES. If this were true, Kelley would be the Grim Reaper or something.I certainly wouldn't invite him to parties!
Mel Gibson isn't a Roman Catholic, by the way. Though you could have raised a Pat Buchanan. He is an "outlier", however, in many ways.
sure you did, tena.
"Always said if JC came back today the Repubs would whore him out. Anyone can be bought."
OUCH!
THat one has to hurt someone.
Mel Gibson isn't a Roman Catholic, by the way. Though you could have raised a Pat Buchanan. He is an "outlier", however, in many ways.
This Kelley story will only get a wide audience when The Daily Show gets ahold of it.
Rev - I hear you. I understand the thing about Washington insiders, a lot of people feel that way. It has never particularly bothered me - and right now I'd rather have someone in the WH who really really knows his way around. I'd like to see both sides of the aisle speaking to each other civilly again and compromising once in awhile.
As for anything Big John has failed to say - I think he's doing great. He totally won my heart when he refused to apologize for saying the Repugs were crooks and liars the likes of which he'd never seen before.
I love Dennis Kucinich and his guts and his ideas - I really do. But I knew he wasn't going to get anywhere. I really like Dean, too, and started out supporting him. I do think he managed to alienate voters and that alarmed me, so I'm more than content with Kerry - I'm very happy with him. And I'm deliriously happy with the new unity in the left and the new determination to win. When Kerry is president, I expect to see more of this - and if it doesn't happen, I'll be as pissed as the next person, and I will be prone to blame Kerry if he fails to deliver and the left begins to fracture again.
Hey, Atrios, you don't have to funnel any more money to me. I'm gonna raise dollars selling pictures of me and Ms Ketchup having sex.
John Kerry (you peasants)
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IMPOSSIBLE! All trolls are eunuchs.
Ah, remember James Wolcott before he turned into a drunk hack with a giant I-hate-Bush bug stuck up his corpulent arse?
LOL about my law school - you think I'd lie about it? If I'd gone to St. Mary's I'd say so - it is a fine school. Some of the most liberal lawyers I know went there; it's certainly more liberal than SMU, but my friend, that's where I graduated from law school. Check if you don't believe me. Class of '81.
Tena,
The "left" is NOT unified behind Kerry. But he's certainly captured the center...lock, stock, and barrel.
Mel Gibson isn't a Roman Catholic, by the way. Though you could have raised a Pat Buchanan. He is an "outlier", however, in many ways.
Anonymous
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Correct. Him and his father belong to a splinter group that the Roman Catholic Church considers heretic.
Just don't confuse me with another Hollingsworth whom I know who did graduate from St. Mary's, top of her class, law review, now a partner at a top Dallas law firm and making mucho buckos, which I never made.
I graduated from SMU under my maiden name.
Mel believes himself and his fellow sect members to be the true cathlics, and the rest of the catholics as not.
Ok, Tena....Your point is?
"The "left" is NOT unified behind Kerry. But he's certainly captured the center...lock, stock, and barrel"
Lets hope so.I consider myself to be center.Tho my wife would vehemently disagree,thats just where she is on the political scale.I just believe that the government needs an overhaul to the worst degree.
The thing I want Kerryto come out and say is he will repeal ALL of GWB's enviromental policies.And that he will not give up on the criminal investigations of this (mis)administration).
And on a side note I hvwe good news......My pool is up to 72 degrees.Be swimming again real soon.YEA!
ass=asshat
Same borish nonsense, different day.
Well if Kerry has capture the middle, then Kerry will win because there's a lot more middle in this country that there is anything else.
Well if Kerry has capture the middle, then Kerry will win because there's a lot more middle in this country that there is anything else.
--Tena
Good for Kerry, then. Then referencing a clever post on another thread, I guess wolves will be having sheep for dinner.
smalfish - re: environmental programs - this is where my greatest hope for a Kerry presidency lies. And I think those hopes are well founded, I think he'll be a great environmental president. I certainly agree that every single one of the gawdawful environmental rapes that Bush has enacted should be repealed immediately. If they aren't, then I'll be screaming too.
Tena,
The Washington insider thing doesn't bother me as much as it did when I was younger and full of more piss 'n' vinegar. The elected officials, anyway, because they can be voted out. It may take the proverbial live girl or dead boy to do it, but it can happen. I'm still undecided when it comes to term limits, though. The guys that bother me the most are the cats that aren't elected by or answerable to the American people, like Kissenger or Michael Power or John Negroponte. That sort of "insider's club" thing just doesn't set well with me.
And I don't know how united the left is behind Kerry. I think the vast majority of the left is, not only because of the ABBA factor but because he's campaigning well. He's not backing down, he's explaining intelligently the attacks the Bushistas make (like the whole flip-flop nonesense), and moving on when they want to focus on something incredibly trivial, like the "world leaders' endorsement" flap.
Most importantly, he's giving a message of why to not only vote against Bush - like any sane, intelligent person needed one - by why to vote for him. One thing I liked about Edwards was his positive message. Making a better America and all that. Kerry seems to be moving towards that along with his attacks on the Bush people, sort of a synthesis.
Sure, there's some holdouts - there'll always be holdouts - but I think the left's more united behind Kerry than they've been since Clinton's first run back in '92.
Tena
One thing we CAN be certain about in a Kerry presidentcy is the media will be ALL over him AND his policies.I think by coontrast Clinton will have gotten a free ride.
Did anyone attend marches or demonstrations today?
I went to the march in NYC; probably some 100,000 people there, I'd guess. Fewer than last February but more than I expected.
Rev - I agree. I thought Edwards did a smashing job of campaigning, and I expect to see more of him, too. I love it that Dean has put together an organization to keep working on the progressive agenda. We need those kinds of organizations to overcome all the goddamned organizing the RR has been doing for 20 years. We've got to be able to counter the think tanks, the 4000 christian organizations and the rest.
But yeah, I was content to go with whoever was nominated, but I've been really pleased with Kerry so far. He has been putting forward all the right things. I think it will just get better, too. Well, I can hope - after all we've been through, some hope isn't so bad.
Small march here. Couple hundred people. Sound's like a great turnout in NYC. I bet the Times will report 10,000.
monica_nyc,
There was about 50-60 people at the one here in Athens when I finally split. Like your's, not as big as last year's but bigger than most expected.
smalfish aka Bob - you know, I would so love to see the rightwing media kind of go into a collapse with the collapse of the Bush administration. As things like this latest media scandal with Kelly continue to be revealed, I am hoping for an eventual journalistic redux, too.
People have already decided where they need to assemble to protest the Bush administration - at the polls this November. Heheheh.
Tena,
Indeed, and it's cool Dean's working with Kerry, as is Sharpton, Edwards and, I believe, Clark and Mosley-Braun. As a wise man once said, "We must hang together or surely we'll hang seperately."
This may be a little OT, but have any of our members of Congress introduced a measure to censure the preznit yet?
If not, why not? It wouldn't pass, of course, or even get out of committee most likely, but we'd be no worse off and the debate would be fun. If the Republicans refuse to let it on the floor, scream blue bloody murder about double standards THEN and maybe people will listen.
A.
Athenae - I signed a petition some while back calling on Congress to censure the president. You're right - they surely should be doing that. The excuse that it's an election year is just that, an excuse. That never stopped them from gutting Bill Clinton - nothing stopped them.
I too am surprised by the Dems for not at least trying to introduce a resolution censuring Bush in Congress. I mean, who knows, maybe there are some real honest folks among the Republicans, or some self-interested ones who would agree to them to save themselves or their party. At the very least it would be something that would go into the Congressional record for historians to recognize that at LEAST some of us don't think what Bush is doing is 'ok'.
I've given up trying to count on the Democrats to do anything because it is the 'right' thing to do. It is all just 'electoral strategy' for them bunch o' weasels.
I call my pool boy a "dumb beaner" when he gets in the way of my sun.
John Kerry (did you know i was | Email | Homepage | 03.20.04 - 5:16 pm | #
Ha Ha - John, You and I think alike. Thats wat I call my coke deeler.. "dumb beaner". Ha Ha - Hay John, if you get the nominashun, er.. elecshun to be prezdent, can I be in yore cabnet?
Considering all the brownshirt chatter on this thread, I'd say there's something about this Kelley story that scares the shit out of Unka Karl... disinformation plant? Brownshirt mole? Let's keep digging!
Preznit Kerry give me pate foie gras.
John Kerry has promised to take this country back from the wealthy. Who better than the guy worth $700 million to take the country back? He knows how the wealthy think. He can spy on them at his country club, at his place in Palm Beach, at his house in the Hamptons.
dave - something, because there's a lot on the other Kelley thread, too. It seems to have brought them out.
It's so funny when dave starts picking up signals on his tinfoil hat.
Prezdent Bush give me mucho dollars and contract in Iraq.
Tena: you need a man.
"Ted Kennedy is endorsing John Kerry and I'm wondering, do you really want the endorsement of a guy with a Bloody Mary mustache?" —David Letterman
"Over the weekend, John Kerry — the big John Kerry juggernaut moves on — he won primaries in Washington D.C., Nevada and, I think, Canada. And he's so confident that he's started nailing that intern again." —David Letterman
That damn Drudge! I linked to his title ...
" Interrogations of prisoners in Guantanamo yield results..."
....and what did I get?...
Page Not Found
The page you've requested does not exist at this address. Please note:
I thought something most illuminating would be there. !!
Knock that off, ya dumb beaner. You have me- beanie baby, remember... Don't you try to talk up that Tena chick. I know she is pretty and smart, a lot more than you, but she is already married.
I too am a little worried that the journalist story is going to resurface when the timing is "better"... The parents' one day change of heart seemed a little fishy...
dave - have Bush's numbers dropped again or something? I can't imagine what has gotten the wingers so riled up.
Who are these people so against pheasants?
It is all just 'electoral strategy' for them bunch o' weasels.
Yeah, because appeasing Bush worked so well in 2002. Fucking cowards.
A.
nothing better to do on a Saturday evening...that's all.
ot:
bob von sternberg contributed to saturday edition (03/20/04) of mpls star tribune with reporting titled "low cost and high impact: web ads score a political hit". sourced kos but not atrios (bummer).
I'm putting the skiing story into the archive with the story about the time Kerry ate someone else's pizza. Wow.
OT... but has anyone visited Riverbend's site lately?
"The War on Terror...
I'm feeling irritable and angry today. It's exactly a year since the war on Iraq began and it seems to be weighing heavily on everyone. .....
I felt horrible that Baghdad was being reduced to rubble. With every explosion, I knew that some vital part of it was going up in flames. It was terrible and I don't think I'd wish it on my worst enemy. That was the beginning of the 'liberation'… a liberation from sovereignty, a certain sort of peace, a certain measure of dignity. We've been liberated from our jobs, and our streets and the sanctity of our homes… some of us have even been liberated from the members of our family and friends.
A year later and our electricity is intermittent, at best, there constantly seems to be a fuel shortage and the streets aren't safe. When we walk down those streets, on rare occasions, the faces are haggard and creased with concern… concern over family members under detention, homes raided by Americans, hungry mouths to feed, and family members to keep safe from abduction, rape and death. "
addendum to post th | Email | Homepage | 03.20.04 - 7:20 pm |:
no disrespect toword the kos.
Tena: we wingers are bored. Kerry is such a trite piece of billionaire-marrying shit.
I went to the march in NYC
I live right near the starting point of today's "The World Still Says No to War" march, so I couldn't miss it.
I have protested against the war in New York on February 15 (an uplifting, almost mystical experience), in DC on March 15 (within sight of the White House, but Bush was not there), and again in New York on March 22 (and later that day met my now-fiance). I also turned out for a protest in the rain near Times Square the day the war started, and again to protest a Bush visit to Manhattan ("Where are the WMDs?")
So I couldn't very well miss this march that was starting just around the corner. I showed up, but I didn't stay very long.
more
Still OT - Riverbend
Her last sentence for her entry today "I hope someone feels safer, because we certainly don't."
Re: Riverbend
Are we going to be held responsible for our government's flagrant disregard for the (fourth?) Geneva Convention, and the responsiblities of an occupying force?
oldwhitelady - that is truly heartbreaking.
Pussy all around, on me.
OT: I don't know why, aside from a couple posters, there was pretty much an informational 'blackout' on March 20 Global Day of Action among the usually 'hip' blogs. Any ideas?
You people are truly pathetic. Go march or something equally useful.
Are we going to be held responsible for our government's flagrant disregard for the (fourth?) Geneva Convention, and the responsiblities of an occupying force?
I sure hope so. However, has Israel been held responsible for ANY of it's many Geneva Convention violations in regard to Palestine?
What's up with the new wingnut meme to trash Kerry because he married rich? Not exactly like boy george worked his way up from waiter at Denny's.
HEY,ATRIOS, YOU DUMB PIECE OF SHIT: HERE'S ANOTHER FACULTY MEMBER, Larry Woiwode, WHOSE BORN BROTHERS IS BETTER THAN ANYTHING YOU COULD HOPE TO WRITE IN 5 LIFETIMES. SO GIVE IT UP, ASSHOLE.
Larry Woiwode's work has appeared in Esquire, the Atlantic Monthly, GQ, Harpers, the New Yorker, the Paris Review, and many other publications, and his work has been translated into a dozen languages. His eight novels include What I'm Going to Do, I Think--a first novel that won both the William Faulkner Foundation Award and a "notable book award" from the American Library Association; Beyond the Bedroom Wall--one of the finest novels to appear in our contemporary literature; Poppa John; Born Brothers; and Indian Affairs. He has been a Guggenheim Fellow, a John dos Passos Prize winner, a recipient of awards from the American Academy and Institute of Arts and Letters, a nominee for both the National Book Critics circle, and the National Book Award. Of his collection of short stories Silent Passengers, the novelist Charles Johnson said that Woiwode's "masterful hand and generous vision transform our most evanescent and commonplace experiences into something akin to gold....they are stories that sharpen our way of seeing from one of America's finest prose stylists." Larry has recently published What I Think I Did which is an account of living through the fiercest winter in North Dakota history in 1996. He uses this 'season of survival' as a base from which to examine memory, and departs from the ferocious blizzards and ravenous cold to revisit his early days in New York in the 1960s, where his life as a writer began under the mentorship of the great New Yorker editor William Maxwell. He lives in North Dakota with his wife and children where he continues to write.
Tena:
I agree - It is truly heartbreaking when we think about the truly horrible state of conflict we've thrown the Iraqi people and our troopers (children) into. I think it is definitely a terrifying place to be at this time. It breaks my heart to know that we (USA and allies) are responsible.
America's Memory got a weekend pass?
Near me, the March 20 Events had varied themes but mainly to protest war and occupation. There was a short, permitted, march down streets to a public park where there were a few speakers. Perhaps there were 500 people all day. This evening there are also some candlelight vigils in different places.
OLDWHITELADY -- CRY ME A FUCKING RIVER.
For all the people who managed to make it to the rallies and marches today, I am so proud of you. When I got the notice that we were going to have a march in my town, I immediately thought to check my calendar because I wanted to attend. Unfortunately, a once a year happening was going on and I had previously agreed to help.
oldwhitelady - Long before I was mad about the war, I was just so sad. But then, I didn't agree with the bombing of Afghanistan, either. I never could see exactly what the point was in bombing a country that had already been bombed back to the Stone Age 2 or 3 times.
AM - Step away from the computer and take two of those yellow horse pills. Ask your mom to bring you down some milk and cookies, bedtime for bonzo.
oldwhitelady - Considering how much of the Arab world has been bombed pretty much since WWII, it's no wonder they decided to bomb back. Shit, what else do they know about American politics, but bombs? And money.
OLDWHITELADY -- CRY ME A FUCKING RIVER.
Anonymous | Email | Homepage | 03.20.04 - 7:43 pm | #
I have.... but it wasn't for you.
I can't imagine what has gotten the wingers so riled up.
Maybe it's just that, due to all the meetings with his legal team during the week, Unka Karl can only make an appearance in the boilerroom on weekends - so everyone tries to look busy.
Actually to at least before WWI...Don't let the Turkish Empire off the hook for what they did to the Arab world, either.
My father and I were talking about US foreign policies today and we decided it needed a total re-write....oh, yeah, he and my mother have been married a long long time and he does not feel that gay marriages take away from their marriage. He thinks gay marriages should be legalized. This is an 86 year old guy who has no gay people in his family, that we know of.
I can't imagine what has gotten the wingers so riled up.
I think Spain has exposed a huge crack in George and Dick's excellent adventure. Throw in what was supposed to be Dickey's major speech which barely got any coverage and what it did get was a split screen with Dick talking about how excellent their little adventure in Iraq was going with the other half of the screen showing Baghdad burning.
Hey, WJI has its own blog!
March 12, 2004
California is Going Crazy
Not everyone in California is going crazy. But that's the way it seems. Gay marriage is on the rise and our elected officials are not even trying to stop it.
Until very recently, marriage was defined as a covenant between one man and one woman. Not any more. Now anything goes...
Of course, the unstated goal of the pro-homosexual movement has always been to dismantle Christianity and all Christian influence in America...
What will be left of society, when the gays are done transforming it?
chris/tx - Jon Stewart showed a lot of the footage of that split screen between Cheney and the bombing in Baghdad. I had only read about it - hadn't seen it. O my god, it was incredible. It could have been a MoveOn.org ad just totally unretouched.
Tena - I saw it on CNN live, and then again on Stewart - Absolutely correct in that Kerry ought to steal that one and start running it uncut. Best line was when Stewart said Dick needs to look over at the other half of the screen, priceless. Stewart would be worth a million votes by November if he was in Leno or Lettermans spot.
Yes, I was assigned to this thread as I am a right wing religio-fascist knuckledragging idiot. I was assigned this detail to try and annoy the left wing truth tellers on Eshaton.
I deeply apologize for doing my job well, even though I have an IQ of 67.
Please do not drown me.
Kerry for President!
Will someone at long last decide to feed these idiots to the lions?
Poor animals, badly treated, malnourished, beaten up.
Think of the lions!
I admit I am a homosexual. There, I finally got that off my chest. Now I can marry whom ever I please.
WWJD at this moment? He would beat the crap out of me, then forgive me for being such a dork.
Dave 
Awww... I'm so flattered!
Well, of course the nut jobs are fanning out and doing their best to change the subject.
The Bush administration have come to the realization that they have created a morass that they can't lie their way out of, so they simply call Kerry a tax raiser and think that the massively unemployed workers and our brave patriots who they sent to die for NOTHING will just shut up.
I am ashamed that the huge bonus I received from the tax cuts caused soldiers to die because they were not equipted with body armor. That Bush cheaped out on their basic provisions. We have sent large sums to the USO and other support organizations, as I do not need blood money.
Hell yes, they are scared. Wait until election day, Bush will lose by a landslide and the world will rejoice.
I am a right wing religio-fascist knuckledragging idiot.
It's ...mouth-breathing knuckle dragging idiot, get it right.
Chris,
So sorry for the misquote. I will get it right the next time.
Repeat after me, mouth breathing....
Jeus hung out not with one male bud, but an even dozen. I would suppose, if you tried hard enough, and enough miracles happened like taking your demons out and putting them in pigs, even Jesus migh accept you....
Poll: Which would piss the wingers off more, proof that Jesus was banging Mary Magdalene or proof that Jesus was banging Peter?
No disrespect meant for the Big JC, but you gotta admit it's an amusing question.
A.
Geez Atrios,
I know ending the occupation of Iraq isn't part of John Kerry's ill-conceived election strategy (yet), but what more can really be said about USA Today's scandal. We already knew it was unreliable.
How bout a post about the REAL news of the day...
100,000 at NYC rally as protests gather nationwide
NEW YORK -- Anti-war protesters turned out nationwide Saturday to mark the first anniversary of the U.S.-led war on Iraq, with tens of thousands marching through Manhattan to call for the removal of American troops from the Middle East country.
I'm much more concerned with the likes of David Brooks, who today gave us the vomit-inducing
"Compassionate conservatism never had much of a life, but its collapse has had a debilitating effect on the Bush presidency"
"Compassionate conservatism's decline began with the Florida election mess. Suddenly, there was so much animosity..."
Isn't it just possible that compassionate conservatism was just a slogan, a fraud, something Bush never believed in?
On the real subject of Jack Kelly...Drudge is carrying a link in which Kelly makes strange religious claims and a bizarre (and obviously false) story of eluding killers and divine intervention in Russia. On Drudge 3-20-04, item teaser is "I feel God's pleasure...." It's from May 2001, and I could have told them he was a fake from that story alone.
I got mail! I got mail! I got mail! I got mail!
a couple of real clever Repub/cult members out today. Just as real and as clever as those Karen Ryan Medicare reports. Why won't they go elsewhere to masturbate? Speaking of perpetual jack offs, did any one see the "NewsHour" last night. David Brooks was babbling the party line so wildly that even Mark Shields looked shocked it almost seemed liked Shields wanted to pimpslap him back to consciousness.
Zut.
Alors.
Tiens.
Sacre bleu.
Too tiresome for (English) words.
Anybody see that movie "Shattered Glass" about TNR?
Some alums of the World Journalism institute have a webpage. If you ever wanted to know just what you're dealing with, that will tell you.
Here's my post about it.
So if Bush withdraws US troops from Iraq before the elections while Kerry is still calling for 40,000 more troops for such adventures. How foolish is Kerry going to look in trying to 'out' macho Bush on death and misery?
Repeat after me, mouth breathing....
pool boy
buuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrp!
So the #2 Al-qaedude was not the High Value Target, afterall... It was some random Uzbek Mullah. Who of course is still said to be an important man, close to OBL.
Gee whiz, the Pakistani's could deliver us Anthony Quinn and tell us he was one of OBL's Lieutenants, and the American media would never know the difference.
The Floridian 'interim President of Haiti' is praising the armed mercenaries who rampaged through villages all the way to the capital. This is the right message to send to people in a places where they actually have elections right? Why bother waiting for elections...
Aristide is meanwhile chilling in Jamaica, visiting with some family. Neither Jamaica nor Venezuela recognize the interim government of Haiti.
Holy shit! Anthony Quinn's in al-Qaeda?
I knew it!
Fucking zombie jihadis.
I wished either Kerry or Bush was saying that they had a "secret plan" to get us out of Iraq.
Link on frontpage of CNN:
Thousands cheer as Bush mocks Kerry
Quotes:
"The other day, here in Florida, he claimed some important endorsements," Bush said about the senator from Massachusetts. "He won't tell us the name of the foreign admirers. That's OK. Either way, I'm not too worried, because I'm going to keep my campaign right here in America."
...
"My opponent admits Saddam Hussein was a threat, he just didn't support my decision to remove Saddam from power. Maybe he was hoping Saddam would lose the next Iraqi election."
...
"My opponent says he approves of bold action in the world, but only if other countries don't object. I'm all for united action, and so are our 34 coalition partners in Iraq right now. Yet America must never outsource America's national security decisions to the leaders of other countries."
...
"So far, all we hear from that side is bitterness, partisan anger. Anger is not an agenda for the future of America."
...
"He's going to tax all of you," Bush said, adding, "Fortunately, you're not going to give him that chance."
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/
03/20/bush.florida/index.html
On his first full day off, though, Mr. Kerry awoke determined to hit the slopes of Mount Baldy.
The image-conscious candidate and his aides prevailed upon reporters and photographers to let him have a first run down the mountain solo, except for two agents and Marvin Nicholson, his omnipresent right-hand man.
His next trip down, a reporter and a camera crew were allowed to follow along on skis — just in time to see Mr. Kerry taken out by one of the Secret Service men, who had inadvertently moved into his path, sending him into the snow.
When asked about the mishap a moment later, he said sharply, "I don't fall down," then used an expletive to describe the agent who "knocked me over."
Suggested Kerry camp spin: Kerry was joking, in his macho, towel-snapping manner! Richard Holbrooke phones reporters to question the NYT's use of the adverb "sharply." ... Note to Maureen Dowd: You're only allowed to get two columns out of this, OK? ... Update: Kf's suggested spin won't work, since ABC'S O'Keefe bascially confirms the NYT's account (key word: "glared"). But if the skier whom Kerry cursed wasn't a Secret Service agent who was there to protect him, Kerry's annoyance seems less objectionable. ... O'Keefe replaces the lost obnoxiousness, however, with an extra helping of vain, obsessive image-consciousness:
As Senator John Kerry carved his Burton snowboard down a green rated Upper College run, another skier interrupted his stride, colliding with the presumptive Democratic nominee at 9,010 feet.
The slope-cade of two Ski Patrollers, several Secret Service agents, two journalists, one camera and one Kerry aide suddenly came to a halt. The Massachusetts Senator lay on the ground, removed his Smith sunglasses, and surveyed the damage.
Assured that the ABC News camera accompanying the entourage had not captured Kerry's fall, the Senator glared at your sloping Noter and assured, "I don't fall down. That son of a bitch ran into me." [Emphasis added.]
OT but important:
I haven't seen any discussion of this and this is what we have been saying all along. We need to hammer this point constantly!
Even such establishment voices as London's prestigious International Institute of Strategic Studies, which supported the Iraq war and hosted President Bush's during his recent state visit to Britain, concludes that the hostility sparked by the Iraq war has substantially increased the growth potential for jihadi terror groups. Rather than isolating the jihadis in Arab public opinion and starving them of support, the effect of the war has been to move their view of the U.S. closer to the mainstream.
http://tinyurl.com/2royo
Jeebus, please protect me from your followers.....
Q ...
In 1994, the President told the Houston Chronicle, in relation to his joining the National Guard, "I was not prepared to shoot my eardrum out with a shotgun in order to get a deferment, nor was I willing to go to Canada, so I chose to better myself by learning how to fly airplanes." It sounds like the President, himself, acknowledged that he went into the National Guard because he didn't want to go to Vietnam.
MR. McCLELLAN: The President -- again, Terry, this issue has been addressed fully.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/r...20040210-
3.html
Powell's bio:
My American Journey
on Page 144:
"... I am proud of the way American soldiers answered the call in a war so poorly conceived, conducted, and explained by their country's leaders. Dozens ... are too good to risk. I am angry that so many of the sons of the powerful and well placed and so many professional athletes (who were probably healthier than any of us) managed to wangle slots in Reserve and National Guard units. Of the many tragedies of Vietnam, this raw class discrimination strikes me as the most damaging to the..."
http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/...der/0345407288/
ref=sib_vae_srch/002-2806114-2868012?v=search-
inside&keywords=so+many+professional+athletes&
x=15&y=11
President-elect Kerry, stepping over Bush's semiconscious form,adjusted his tie and strode to the Podium.
"My fellow Americans, the son of a bitch ran into me.." Kerry gestured to Bush's limp carcass being drug offstage to cheers and wild applause.
Poll: Which would piss the wingers off more, proof that Jesus was banging Mary Magdalene or proof that Jesus was banging Peter?
No disrespect meant for the Big JC, but you gotta admit it's an amusing question.
I'll bet he was banging both. That loud pop splat noise you just heard was a winger's head exploding.
I'd like proof that he existed at all, quite frankly.
I don't know who Jesus was fucking, but I guarantee you Kerry was fucking Polier.
President Bush took a Chevy Chase-style pratfall off his father's Segway in June while vacationing in Kennebunkport, Maine.
Mr. Bush failed to flip the "on" switch so the self-balancing mechanism did not work, according to published reports. News photographers lingering outside the Bush family compound captured grainy images of the president's spill.
http://washingtontimes.com/busin...95318-
6893r.htm
You bonesmokers are still talking about me after all this time?
Holy Shiite!
"Poll: Which would piss the wingers off more, proof that Jesus was banging Mary Magdalene or proof that Jesus was banging Peter?"
I would throw my vote for peter.After all the Catholic church is more passionat for boys,so it follows that jesus was gay.To further the point,Jesus was just another man.Granted he was a popular man,but then again Bush is popular too in the church of the homophobe.
I wonder Jesus=gay
GWB=Gay??
Nice picture:
President Bush -- scraped and bruised after a fainting spell -- extolled motherhood on Monday as another symbol of American patriotism, and gave the John Deere workers he addressed a lighthearted lesson to chew on.
"If my mother is listening, mother, I should have listened to you: Always chew your pretzels before you swallow," Bush said jokingly.
http://www.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLIT.../bush.fainting/
President Bush once said in jest, "If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier ... just so long as I'm the dictator."
No Atrios Smith updates tonight, eh?
Folks should read Josh Marshall's most recent post, in which he reminds readers of the connections and involvements among certain of the boy king's "9/11 commissioners."
Wow... So many trolls out tonight. I thought I had no life. Looks like I have more of one than I thought. Woo hoo!
Forgive any typos. I'm still kinda buzzing from the Margaritas.
Now this thing with Mr. Kelley...
I don't think any of us expect reporters to be 100% objective and unbiased. It's impossible, because humans aren't 100% objective and unbiased. What we would like to see is that these reporters do their best to be as objective as they possibly can be.
Has anyone run Kelley's "supporters" through the WJI mill yet, to see if we have any matches?
It sickens me that Kelley is getting a free pass because he's a white, evangelical Christian, while Jayson Blair is forever ruined. What Blair did was wrong...but if that were wrong, what Kelley has done is monstrous.
10,000 dead Iraqis dispute assertions that their situation is improving
http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/...4/
032004H.shtml
While I'm probably among the least well-informed around, and compared to many of the regulars I've hardly even poked my massive, shaggy head out of the woods, the existence of the evangelical reporters cartel came as no surprise, notwithstanding my ignorance of this specific errorist cell.
There is an organised evangelical group for any given occupation or proffession, they spring up like 'shrooms (Hi, Grappler) after a spring rain in a cow pasture, and all have a similiar credo- they are devoted to "presuppositional" teaching, science, law enforcement, finance, government employees,doctors, you name it. I'm sure Google-ing will turn up a raft of these groups, floating far above the normal ethical demands which constrain us secularhumans. It seems that no longer satisfied with rendering unto Caeser, what is Caeser's, and rendering unto G-d what is G-d's they have decided to render Caeser to their liking. At the extreme are groups whose mission statement is expressly theocratic, like the particular little club the CEO of Diebold belongs to. Yup!
When I showed my wife the fist post about WJI, she immediately picked up on the word "leaven"- it seems that, besides the usual passage referred to Jesus also warns, in another Gospel, about leaven spoiling the whole loaf.
There are so many of these organisations crawling below the ethical radar that belonging to them is not even considered questionable anymore.
While they complain incessantly about persecution, the tolerance of liberals is allowing the theocrats to proceed with their agenda.
If I was impertinent enough I would say this is hardly Christian.
Re: 9/11 Commissioners
But the most revealing, of course, was that Bush actually initially tried to appoint Henry "The Fugitive" Kissinger to chair the commission.
ooh, kerry went skiing. ooh, kerry gets haircuts. kerry is rich. this is the best these pusbags can do? i guess they want to take our mind off the coke sniffing drunken awol coward who lied us into a needless war while letting our enemies regroup.
Atrios really needs to designate an alternate to kick in when more than four hours go by without a fresh post. Even the trolls are getting bored.
Did anyone else participate in one of the peace demonstrations today? I put in my two hours waving a flag on PCH. Got more cheers than jeers. Made me hopeful.
Thanks, hadenough:
Kerry better get his ass off Mount Baldy. Pronto.
Remember how it felt to watch Gore fumble the debate to GWB? I'm getting that feeling now.
The press ain't gonna carry John's chowdah for him.
HELP
HELP
HELP
Someone PLEASE post a link to ALL of Jack Kelley's pieces published in USA Today!
if this was done and i missed it i'm sorry
Shoulda read the thread first: Monica_NYC, Backslider, grytpype, one or two anonymice.
The turnout was much smaller than it was a year ago, of course, but bigger than Laguna's usual weekly vigil, fifty instead of a dozen folks.
Intresting article about the republican party
"Unfortunately, as Reagan’s term progressed, it became apparent that his government not only would "stand tall" abroad, but also at home, as the drug war escalated. To get an idea of where things stood when Reagan took office, there were about 300,000 prisoners in state prisons and about 20,000 federal prisoners. Laws governing illegal drug possession and sales for the most part were handled by the states."
[snip]
"The Bush I Administration completely abandoned whatever libertarian principles had been part of the Republican campaigns, replacing a view of liberty with a "doctrine" of overwhelming government force both overseas and at home. This has been part and parcel of Republicanism ever since. There was a very brief time following the elections of 1994 that swept the Republicans into control of Congress in which libertarian ideals were near the front in the form of the "Contract with America."
[snip]
"Since then, the small group of libertarians in the Republican Party have been on the run and are ignored in the larger political discussion, as the Neoconservatives have taken over the ideological wing of the party. The result has been the current economic and foreign policy debacles that ultimately will lead voters to throw out this set of rascals (and vote in a new set of rascals)."
It goes on to predict a democrat route in the upcomming elections.This to me makes sense in that the rethugs have shown themselves thru thier run to be incapable of governing to any sane extent.And that while in the process they have time and again shown that criminality is foremost on the agenda.Weather it be forcing more americans onto jail or commiting their own crimes(which they then gat away with)it has become part and parcel of the republican way.
I have more in common with the libertiarian party than either of the ruling parties and yet have no choice but to vote out the least desireable party.It has gone way past the governments ability to change the path of our governing bodies direction.Therefore we are on a course set aside by elitists movements on both sides of the isle.This is unfortunate for all people of this and other countries around the world.America rules for now,but this may end as a result of the blundering of our political parties.
Too bad we have no power to change our course of action.
Mooser:
I'm a bit curious about this. I believe the passage you're referring to is in Corinthians I: "Do you not know that a little leaven leavens the whole lump:
Therefore, purge out the old leaven, that you may be a new lump."
I believe the context of this passage is a variation of one rotten apple spoils the whole bunch. However, I also see something a bit, er, troubling in this emphasis on leavening by the WJI. And let's go with the idea that this group consists of journalists operating from a Christian perspective, people who, assumedly, would know the complexities of word usage and meanings.
Leaven doesn't necessarily "spoil" bread. In reality, leavening is what makes it "rise." Are we to take it that the WJI wants to "rise" as well? Hm...
Also, leavening is only a problem if the loaf needs to be unleavened. The most famous use of unleavened bread is in the Seder for the Jewish Passover. Other unleavened breads exist, of course, tortillas, piadinas, bibingkas, Ry-Krisps, Triscuits, Original Wheat Thins, etc. The western Catholic churces are known to prefer unleavened bread for communion wafers. But the Jewish usage is still the most famous. Considering the purpose of WJI, this kinda makes me say again, Hm....
damn. banned by fat ollie wannaburger.
Damn you, LJ. I was curious and dipped into Corinthians to find out what was going on. What a foul pit of misogyny! Women must and men must not cover their heads, among much other nonsense.
It's not all bad, of course, but that particular flavor poisons it for me.
"It is a good thing for a man to have nothing to do with women" [7] Bozo!
My wife, (The Moosette, bless her beautiful heart) has been a Christian from birth, and devoted to Christian principles and actions, in my opinion. And she tells me those Evangelicals (and I believe she would describe herself as one) who plot to impose their beliefs, (to be very generous with the definition of "belief") on others through organisations (errorist cells) are the rotten apples.
But I've got to go help her dust the chickens (with permethrin) for mites.
Or maybe we'll just pray, loudly, for divine intervention. T'anks all
when did USA Today become a reputed paper?
"errorist" is good
S.J.Perelman (who wrote for the Marx brothers, among other things):
"I asked the porter to get me a newspaper and unfortunately the poor man, hard of hearing, brought me the Los Angeles Times."
(The LAT was, at best, right-wing fishwrap before 1960)
Compared to TV, USAT's not that bad.
Mooser, "dust the chickens" simply cries out to become a sort of Internet euphamism for something.
Maybe "dust the chickens" can be blogese for troll shields of some sort?
I love the phrase, though a city girl like me has no idea how one dusts chickens exactly, or how the chickens feel about same.
A.
There's some good campaign finance numbers on this site if any of you are interested. Numbers with no opinions like c-span
Perelman also wrote:
Give me an underground laboratory, half a dozen atom-smashers, and a beautiful girl in a diaphanous veil waiting to be turned into a chimpanzee, and I care not who writes the nation's laws.
Please do not drown me.
Pool Boy
That would not be necessary as there is so much bone density in your head that you could drown yourself just by taking a bath.
So please, take a bath, the smell is unbearable.
I don't know who Jesus was fucking, but I guarantee you Kerry was fucking Polier.
BLow me down
If true, that would be one more person than BLow me down has ever fucked.
I went to the march in SF today-Organizers listed it as 50K, news 30K. I saw it as a very bitter "told ya so". Going back to that pic of Gov. Bush with the big bruise - he claims he fell down after choking on a pretzel? Looks more like he caught s right cross. Wonder who he pissed off?
bs
Good for you for turning out. I bet it was a gorgeous day in SF, and I bet that crowd was its usual silly self. That must have been fun.
Boy George could just have clocked himself on his coffee table. Who's to say?
So far, in my life, I've suffered more assaults from inanimate objects than from humans. Of course, I've certainly done more violence to objects than to fellow vertebrates, so it remains consistent with karma.
Ask Nader how much of his money and support is coming from Republican donors.
Ask him if there are any Republican operatives trying to help him get on the ballots in states where he lacks organization.
(The answer to that last one is yes, if you can believe Repub pundits boasts on MSNBC).
hey, i bought me some amiga compilation and the anthrox trainer is cool
http://ccoaler.blogspot.com/2008...2-233-
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