I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Frist
Frist
Behave
Why, I never. My dear A-daddy, I am the pure picture of manners, calm and level-headedness. I am besmirched.
Honestly, makes me want to be all bad and evil.
All I've got to say is: fucking Giants!
read about how a pentagon report says global warming is more dangerous than terrorism
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/
i...1153513,00.html
this is a vital campaign issue. the man is dangerous. tell your friends.
oh, beHAVE!
IT'S SUNDOWN!
PESACH SPANKINGS ALL AROUND!
Hey...OT, but it's come up once or twice - via tiny minds, admittedly - in previous threads. Gotta question...
Is Bill Clinton and/or Al Gore gonna testify before the 9/11 commission? If so, when? If not, why not?
I seem to recall hearing them say their willing and able, but I don't believe they've been called. Someone please do elucidate.
Now I know you don't want to have to come back there.
What kind of spankings?
Don't wanna behave . . . do I hafta?
to have to have me come--whatever the joke is ruined now. Forget it.
Harumpf.
Let me know if you recognize your Congressman at the Moonie shindig.
Suspects in Madrid Train Attacks Said to Die in Blast They Set
Backslider - Big dog and Al are going to testify privately. Have searched for the date but no luck finding it so far.
The attack on women's freedom of choice is a big focus for the wingnuts. They are starting to go after birth control now, telling conservatives that it just another form of abortion. They won't stop until women are all in burkhas.
Please join in the "March for Women's Lives" in DC on April 25. I'll be there. This is an issue that can clearly exposes the radical right for the extremists that they are. Info is at www.MarchforWomen.org.
What kind of spankings - Just Plain Backslider
Pesach, Hebrew for Passover. Must be that time of year ... Shalom la'olam!
chris/tx,
Are they gonna be under oath or is it like Bush and Cheney's deal? As foolish as the whole "Clinton had 8 years and he told the Sudanites they could keep bin Laden" argument is, I do think both men would shed a great deal of light on what went down that Tuesday morning.
What kind of spankings - Just Plain Backslider
Pesach, Hebrew for Passover. Must be that time of year ... Shalom la'olam!
Big Al and Bill will testify separately, not like the Charlie MCCarthy-Edgar Bergen routine that W and Dick will do. Too bad it'll be off camera, I want to see if Chaney's lips move.
Padraig,
Ah. My Hebrew is regretably weak. Thanks for the hip shot.
I will pass on any and all spankings, though, religiously induced or otherwise. The former would be an anathma to an agnostic-minded fellow such as myself, and in general, I'm a sensitive boy. Plus, I have the tendency to hit back.
so Atrios thinks he can run off and have a life? ha!
Oh what the hell am I talking about. It's sat. and I'm at fucking work.
Curses!!
Clinton is going to testify privately, and I seem to remember he offered to do it under oath. Not a chance that they'd make it public, way too embarrassing for chimpy to get compared to a real president with a real brain.
I second Jamais Vu. The March for Women's Lives is going to be the largest protest of its kind ever. What the Right is trying to do to women scares the hell out of me as I'm sure it does many of you, and it's too important to not participate in. If you're in the Chicago area and don't know how to get there, shoot me an e-mail. The buses we'll be taking will probably cost around $75.
Internal Security Minister Tsahi Hanegbi said in an interview with Israel Radio that “it seems to me that it (the US) should be the last one that can preach to us about how to implement our right to self-defence”.
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/def..._4-4-
2004_pg7_8
WHO DOUBTS THE FUCKING ADORABLE AWESOMENESS OF NAOMI KLEIN?!
Prosecutors are investigating whether Ricky Vandal guzzled dirtpipe milkshakes from Glen Reynolds scabby hole, it was reported. "It's in the early stages," one law enforcement source told The Miami Herald. "It's a bit premature to say we've got anything yet. But you're not wrong if you say that's where we're going..."
Backslider - IIRC it is like Bush and Cheney's deal, no under oath (but I think big dog offered to do it under oath).
Apparently Clinton delayed an attach on Afganistan because he did not think he should attach between the election and Bush's swearing in. This of course would mean that Clinton handed BushCo a detailed plan to go after OBL and AQ that was not acted upon.
Is "four legs good" an oingo boingo reference?
"Dirtpipe Milkshakes"...an extremely unpleasent mental image but, oddly enough, it would be an awesome name for a band (credit Dave Barry).
christ/tx,
I'd heard about the Afghanistan deal. Seems logical to me, frankly. Imagine the howling had Clinton gone "to war" just before leaving office. We heard enough nonsense about his "legacy" as it was.
And frankly, I don't understand why all 9/11 testimony isn't under oath. Am I the only one who thinks this is, ya know, kind of important? Also, I understand Bush trying unsuccessfully to keep Condi out of oath territory, the mechanics anyway. Who makes the decisions concerning Mr. Bill's non-oath status?
Link.
Read it and weep, Condi.
Now, off to a damn good steak and "Raising Arizona."
"I tried to stand up and fly straight, but it wasn't easy with that son' bitch Reagan in the White House. "
"Well, this is nothing but a goddamn shakedown and a screwjob, any way you look at it!"
"four legs good" is from Animal Farm
when one is "hoisted by their own petards".. what are "petards"?
>When one is "hoisted by their own petards".. what are "petards"?
I seem to remember that "petard" was a nautical term for a kind of bomb. But I could be smoking monkey crack, because my memory is not always completely reliable.
Jesse,
It means by they'll done in by their own devices, more or less. Actually, "petard" comes from an old French word, and use to mean a small bomb or a loud firecracker used to breach a wall. So, in other words, "hoisted by their own petards" means they'll be blown up by their own bombs. The phrase itself comes from Hamlet.
The French used the word to describe something that blew city gates down like - and I am not making this up - a fart. Those wacky French. They also had a celebrity named Le Petomaine who's shtick was various feats of skill via controlled tooting. Laugh if you must, but remember, we're a society that invented "American Idol" and Regis Philbin.
A petard was a hybrid bomb/cannon that siege engineers would attach to castle walls and set off (same etymological origin as the word "fart" for obvious reasons). The petards were notoriously unreliable and often explode prematurely, resulting in many siege engineers being hoist by their own petards.
don't make me stop this blog!
Sorry for the repetitive post with backslider...
Main Entry: pe·tard
Pronunciation: p&-'tär(d)
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle French, from peter to break wind, from pet expulsion of intestinal gas, from Latin peditum, from neuter of peditus, past participle of pedere to break wind; akin to Greek bdein to break wind
1 : a case containing an explosive to break down a door or gate or breach a wall
2 : a firework that explodes with a loud report
* * *
I always thought a petard was a rope, reading from context. My word-snot cred is GONE.
Can you be hoisted by your own fart???
I also didn't know "pesach" and thought K&Y had typoed "peach" and a peach spanking was a cocktail of some sort.
A major U.S. offensive into Falluhja is imminent, according to NBC News.
Hank,
No shame there. Great minds think alike, and all that. Plus, it adds to the sharing of info, which is always good.
Silleigh,
I dunno, but my brother has been known to unleash toots that'd fell sequoias...and this was BEFORE he switched to a health-food diet.
Troll haiku:
The Ricky Vandal
Eater of dirtpipe milkshakes
Early and often
petard
That crazy internet...
Open thread or Open mic night?
A major U.S. offensive into Fallujah is imminent, according to NBC News
Nothing like throwing a match into a room of dynamite.
chris/tx,
Hey, what better way to get justice for the horrible deaths of four human beings than...killing...a lot more human beings.
The logic eludes me, admittedly.
A friend of mine sent me this little tidbit,thought I'd share it here.
In a report published Monday, the Lovenstein Institute of Scranton,
Pennsylvania,http://www.lovenstein.org/ detailed its findings of a
four-month study of the intelligence quotient of President George W.
Bush. Since 1973, the Lovenstein Institute has published its research
to the educational community on each new president, which includes the
famous "IQ" report among others. There have been twelve presidents
over the past 50 years, from F.D. Roosevelt to G. W. Bush, who were
rated based on:
1. scholarly achievements
2. writings that they produced without aid of staff
3. their ability to speak with clarity, and
4. several other psychological factors which were then scored using the Swanson/Crain system of intelligence ranking.
The study determined the following IQs of each president as accurate
to within five percentage points. In order by presidential term:
142 - Franklin Delano Roosevelt
132 - Harry S Truman
122 - Dwight David Eisenhower
174 - John Fitzgerald Kennedy
126 - Lyndon Baines Johnson
155 - Richard Milhous Nixon
121 - Gerald R. Ford
175 - James Earle Carter
105 - Ronald Wilson Reagan
098 - George Herbert Walker Bush
182 - William Jefferson Clinton
091 - George Walker Bush
In IQ order:
182 - William Jefferson Clinton
175 - James Earle Carter
174 - John Fitzgerald Kennedy
155 - Richard Milhous Nixon
147 - Franklin Delano Roosevelt
132 - Harry S Truman
126 - Lyndon Baines Johnson
122 - Dwight David Eisenhower
121 - Gerald R. Ford
105 - Ronald Wilson Reagan
098 - George Herbert Walker Bush
091 - George Walker Bush
The six Republican presidents of the past 50 years had an average IQ
of 115.5, with President Nixon having the highest at 155. President
George W. Bush rated the lowest of all the Republicans with an IQ of
91. The six Democrat presidents had IQs with an average of 156, with
President Clinton having the highest IQ, at 182. President Lyndon B.
Johnson was rated the lowest of all the Democrats with an IQ of 126.
No president other than Carter [D] has released his actual IQ 176).
Among comments made concerning the specific testing of President G. W.
Bush, his low ratings are due to his apparently difficult command of
the English language in public statements, his limited use of
vocabulary [6,500 words for Bush versus an average of 11,000 words for
other presidents], his lack of scholarly achievements other than a
basic MBA, and an absence of any body of work which could be studied
on an intellectual basis. The complete report documents the methods
and procedures used to arrive at these ratings, including depth of
sentence structure and voice stress confidence analysis.
"All the Presidents prior to George W. Bush had at least one book
under their belt, and most had written several white papers
Bush is abolishing the Income Tax and replacing it with the Work Tax.
It used to be that the income tax was just that: people were taxed on income from wages, dividends, capital gains, inheritances. The Bush strategy is to reduce or preferably eliminate all categories of income except for wages. All he wants to tax, in other words, is work.
Why haven't Kerry and liberal economists been pounding on this?
"All the Presidents prior to George W. Bush had at least one book
under their belt, and most had written several white papers during
their education or early careers. Not so with President Bush," Dr.
Lovenstein said. "He has no published works or writings, which made it
more difficult to arrive at an assessment. We relied more heavily on
transcripts of his unscripted public speaking."
A Real Haiku;
Atrios site rocks
Just Plain Backsider Fucks Men
Sick of it All Likes
The Observer: Bush and Blair made secret pact for Iraq war
President George Bush first asked Tony Blair to support the removal of Saddam Hussein from power at a private White House dinner nine days after the terror attacks of 11 September, 2001.
According to Sir Christopher Meyer, the former British Ambassador to Washington, who was at the dinner when Blair became the first foreign leader to visit America after 11 September, Blair told Bush he should not get distracted from the war on terror's initial goal - dealing with the Taliban and al-Qaeda in Afghanistan.
Bush, claims Meyer, replied by saying: 'I agree with you, Tony. We must deal with this first. But when we have dealt with Afghanistan, we must come back to Iraq.' Regime change was already US policy.
Am I the only one who finds Atrios to be a little patronizing? Not because of "Behave", but generally?
Wow, Clinton had 182? Very impressive. My test results in high school ranged somewhere between 80 and 150, yet I made it through college somehow being half a moron.
smalfish,
It's been a long time since I've seen that, but I believe that little tidbit of information is on shakey if not false ground, as much as we'd like to believe it gospel. Snopes has the nitty gritty. Here's a link:
http://tinyurl.com/86sc
Alan,
Some economists have. They get hollered at for "engaging in class warfare," which must be the current equivilent of being called a "race traitor".
Point. I've never hosed a dude. I'm wired to dig females. Sorry to disappoint, bubba.
George Bush in a rare display of courtesy and intellect with the Dutch PM. (video)
Watch it all 
Article from Alternet:
The Christian Taliban
http://tinyurl.com/2zjqg
Bushco - Your government using tax payer funds to serve up heaping doses of hypocrisy, misinformation, and oppression daily.
Backslider -
Use to live/work in the Middle East and have dealt with Arabs/Persians for almost two decades in my line of work. These nitwits have created hatred that will be directed at the US for decades to come. Kill one, and make ten enemies. The book, "the ugly american" was written almost forty years ago, yet these guys learned nothing from this book. Fallujah will be another example of winning the battle and losing the war. Going into Iraq is like trying to break up a bar fight between a married couple. They both end up beating the shit out of you.
Terrific story in The Observer this weekend: http://tinyurl.com/2s5om
Bush and Blair made secret pact for Iraq war
· Decision came nine days after 9/11
· Ex-ambassador reveals discussion
The story, written by David Rose, begins:
President George Bush first asked Tony Blair to support the removal of Saddam Hussein from power at a private White House dinner nine days after the terror attacks of 11 September, 2001.
According to Sir Christopher Meyer, the former British Ambassador to Washington, who was at the dinner when Blair became the first foreign leader to visit America after 11 September, Blair told Bush he should not get distracted from the war on terror's initial goal - dealing with the Taliban and al-Qaeda in Afghanistan.
Bush, claims Meyer, replied by saying: 'I agree with you, Tony. We must deal with this first. But when we have dealt with Afghanistan, we must come back to Iraq.' Regime change was already US policy.
END OF QUOTATION
The story is based on a 25,000-word
article in the May issue of Vanity Fair, due out this week. It includes
a number of bombshells and is based in part on the private diary British politico Clare Short kept at the time.
The article focuses on the runup to the war on Iraq and thus would seem to be covering some of the same ground as Bob Woodward's upcoming book.
Can you be hoisted by your own fart???
in the weightlessness of space, yes
Why Gee Alan,
Thta's because all Kerry wants to do is tax work. The hardest working Americans make pay the most taxes.
(as though a crack mama works harder than a CEO). The Legally Elected President wants to ensure that all Americcan's pay their fare share. The means a flat tax based on salary. I think 10% should be fine.
If you liberalistas allow the dregs of society to pay taxes, then the Treasury will be flush with cash. Make them pay taxes on welfare. Then they'll learn how unfair the Keynesian/Marxian scale of proportional taxes really is. And they'll pay virtually nothing.
The Poor are the Scum of the Earth. If they didn't want to be Poor, they should just get jobs/two jobs.
Cornfed Hick: Do you understand what the voice over says? "Bush is being careful with this Dutch ally, now that the Spanish are in doubt." BTW, we call our PM Jan-Peter Balkenende Harry Potter.
chris/tx,
I must admit, my own knowledge of the "Arab mindset" is rather limited outside a couple of ex-roommates and one ex-girlfriend. Still, what you say has a lot of merit. The whole canard of "They hate us for our freedom" has never rung really true, even when it was used to describe the commie mindset. A basic persual of history shows a whole lot of monkeying by Western powers in an area that's loathe to forgive and forget.
Again, I'm no expert, but what you say makes sense.
Open Thread
I don't like to bash other blogs,but I will today. Mark Kleiman posted a disapproving comment about Kos' awkward comment the other day. But he didn't link to Kos or post the offending comment. He posted a link to LGF. I think that no matter how one feels about someone else's beliefs or comments, you should meet them directly, not link to a different place all together.
Maybe I just took it more personally because I have unusual positions on some things as well.
Open Thread
I don't like to bash other blogs,but I will today. Mark Kleiman posted a disapproving comment about Kos' awkward comment the other day. But he didn't link to Kos or post the offending comment. He posted a link to LGF. I think that no matter how one feels about someone else's beliefs or comments, you should meet them directly, not link to a different place all together.
Maybe I just took it more personally because I have unusual positions on some things as well.
The Lovenstein.org site is a spoof. This study was debunked on Snopes:
http://tinyurl.com/86sc
Too damned bad, though!
Sorry for DP
"as though a crack mama works harder than a CEO"
Actually, a crack whore fucks fewer people than a CEO, making her the paragon of virtue compared to the Bush "pioneers".
JPB,
It's OK. We're all Brothers. You can hose a dude. As long as you claim it was during you experimental-phase in College, everyone's OK with it.
It's no different from Women, which everyone supports.
Tomm -
Also think Blair was the one that tried to tell Bush the lynchpin of the Middle East went through Palestine. Bush talked him into doing Iraq first then they would handle Palestine, and then of course Bush fucked him by not being more forceful with Sharon.
smalfish -
I got caught on the IQ one about nine months ago after posting it at KOS.
I read the Naomi Klein article. Calling June 30th a 'handoff' of power is a joke.
A terrible sick joke that will lead us deeper into the quagmire and guarantee more burnt and mutilated American bodies in the future.
Electronic voting is being discussed on Laura Flanders' show on AAR.
smallfish hate bust up a fun rumor, but the IQ story isn't real
False IQ story
We've got plenty of real stuff to work with without having to resort to fake stories.
Thing to note about the story (and many hoaxes) It quotes scientific sounding research Like, "The Swanson/Crain system of intelligence ranking."
It has a web site, it has an impressive sounding background statement and given themself a history.
What I find interesting about this is how since it plays into our perceived reality of the situation, we are less likely to question it.
Organizations like RJ Reynolds set up fake sounding institutes like this all the time and take advantage of the decades of real research that real organizations have down. These fake institutes use the same shorthand that the real ones use to establish credibility then they drop the fake data into the report.
RJ Reynolds did this with a group busting "junk science". The actually DO bust a bunch of real "junk science" then when it comes time for the second hand smoke reports to be debunked they have estabilished some credibility. On this issue they are silent. Amazing communications ploy, it works as long as people don't know the source and aren't informed.
Great post on the Kos thing at Corrente (with a nice little "fuck you" tweak to the MBF Flave of the Day):
When a citizen joins the military, he or she takes an oath to protect and defend the country. When an employee joins a mercenary army, he or she signs a contract. It's wrong to confuse an oath to defend the country with a contract to perform certain services for money, and to give both equal status.
In fact, to say that the oath which the troops take is the moral equivalent of the contract which mercenaries sign is to open the door to a privatized military: A Republic of Mercenaries. Kos (thanks to alert reader Ricky Vandal)* has this one exactly right.
(* emphasis mine...)
Nope, not even in college. Wasn't in a frat, y'see. And again, sorry to disappoint, but buck up. You're not the first heart I've unfortunately broken.
Listening to Atrios on Air America right now.
Listening to Atrios on Air America right now.
Huh. I'm listening to Bev Harris and Laura Flanders.
A point-by-point rebuttal of Sen. Kerry's recent statements on Venezuela by Gregory Wilpert.
Mr. Wilpert concludes:
Allowing a “democratically elected leader to be cast aside” in Venezuela via a possibly fraudulent recall referendum process would be little different from what happened in Haiti. It would destroy what has actually become a more vigorous democracy in Venezuela than ever. More people are involved in Venezuela’s political institutions now than before, from land reform committees, to local participatory planning councils, to public accountability efforts (“contraloria social”). This week thousands of candidates are being nominated for August regional elections of governors, mayors, state legislators, and city council persons. There have been absolutely no limitations on anyone’s ability to participate.
The only reason Venezuela’s democracy is in danger is because opposition forces have never accepted President Chavez as the legitimately elected president and have tried to undermine his presidency via a coup attempt and a politically motivated shut-down of the country’s all-important oil industry – an act that would have been considered completely illegal in any country in the world (and for which no one in Venezuela has been imprisoned). It is due to these acts of the opposition that President Chavez and his supporters are so suspicious of the signatures that were recently collected for the recall referendum. The best way to ensure that Venezuelan democracy remains strong is by making sure that all sides agree that the referendum is legitimate. This is the main reason why the process has been taking so long.
By issuing this statement, Senator Kerry is clearly taking sides in Venezuela’s conflict and is supporting the opposition. As such, he is placing himself to the right of President Bush, who has so far only supported Venezuela’s opposition more or less covertly.
* * * * *
Who will have the temerity to insist that Sen. Kerry retract his misguided statement?
When will the Left insist that they will give no more donations to a campaign which foolishly aligns itself with anti-democratic perjurers such as Rand Beers?
If criticizing what could prove to be fatal errors by the Kerry campaign is somehow 'irrational', what is the opposite?
Listening to Atrios on Air America right now.
Huh? The livestream has the Laura Flanders show with Bev Harris on Black Box Voting.
BTW, for everyone wondering what happened to the Horse, Orcinus has some illuminating comments...
Strange. It shouldn't matter that I'm on the west coast should it?
I'm listening from the link below.
http://www.super62.com/listen/index.php
Why do I get the feeling that a certain obsessed "someone" is back amongst us?
He's talking about CNN. If they're hooked into the Whitehouse; Novak outing Plame...
Am I the only one who finds Atrios to be a little patronizing?
-Rodion |7:52 pm
Yes, you probably are. Shrill maybe, but not patronizing. (In the Krugmanian sense, of course.) I think he was referring to feeding all of these tiresome trolls who have been running amok in the comments since Air America went live. If you're not one of them, chill out.
That thought crossed my mind too, dave.
Same MO anyway.
Hey Phredd,
Did you know that Paul Krugman was an Enron Advisor?
Strange. It shouldn't matter that I'm on the west coast should it?
I'm listening from the link below.
http://www.super62.com/listen/index.php
Danya
Thats the Portland stream. They must be playing reruns from Wednesday.
You can get the livestream at the
Gah
http://www.airamericaradio.com
dave,
Nah. I still say they're different. Salt Water's pretty single-minded on the issue, not bull-goose looney tunes. This isn't tinfoil hat territory like the Skull & Bones thing. It is important and should be addressed and investigated. I just think he's going about it the wrong way, is all. I also don't think it's as all-encompasing important as he makes it out to be. Lots more stuff closer to home to be concerned about, but that's just me.
Course, I haven't seen him advocating voting for Nader, so who knows.
He's talking to Garafalo and Sedar (sp?) on the Minority Report??? Anyone else getting the same show right on Air America but me???
He's trying to be more polite.
But he'll crack sooner than later.
Thanks for clearing it up for me cornfed.
kei and yuri
thanks for the naomi klein link - how clear the writing and the depression after reading it.
I basically agree with Salt Water in that Kerry's South American stances are very troubling. However, that doesn't change the fact that he is the only way to get Shrub out of office, which is priority number one.
You can't undo 50 years of US Foreign Policy inertia in a single election, its going to take a lot of time and a lot of education.
Danya, am also hearing Atrios on AA right now
Hoist by your own petard: Caught in your own trap.
Heheheheh.
Would someone be so kind as to re-post the link to Air America?
And Atrios, can we pretty-please have a permalink for the live feed in the left column?
Does anyone have a link to a Air America (besides the Portland station) that doesn't require realplayer?
I fucking hate realplayer.
aura borelis - How are you listening, internet feed, if so, which one?
Dirtpipe milkshake?
Ugh. I think that mental image easily out-grosses the "dirty sanchez" thing from several weeks ago. And here Atrios was asking us to behave...
chris/tx:
http://www.620knews.com/listen/index.php
How do others suggest I address what I consider to be a potentially fatal flaw of the Kerry campaign?
A spoonful of sugar? Nose pinching? Feigned obliviousness? Accusing those who disagree with me of having multiple identities?
What has been made clear is that my criticism is one that those who seek to dismiss me with false accusations and childish comebacks are fully aware will be the undoing of the Kerry campaign should it gain traction.
Have no doubts: It will gain traction.
Rand Beers is a known perjurer. Plan Colombia is as dishonorable as Operation Iraqi Freedom.
Maintaining silence about this in the hopes that it won't come to light is irrational, as is attempting to suggest that this is the only topic I've discussed in my short time here at Eschaton. I simply happen to think that it is extremely germane.
The fact that others don't seem to know how to be able to address the matter without resorting to unconvincing negation and the repetition of the last letter of the alphabet would suggest to me that it truly is a conundrum for those who claim to desperately want to be rid of the Bush administration.
It this truly is their intent, one would think that they would exert their efforts in ways that might actually accomplish that goal rather than to unfairly malign others who dare to point out grievous errors by the Kerry campaign.
Perhaps I am being too optimisitic to think that such matters will be addressed with maturity by those here at Eschaton who never fail to resort to infantile imitations of narcolepsy.
But to those who have the ability to engage me with intelligence and actual wit, what can be done to ensure that Sen. Kerry does not sink his own ship by maintaining Rand Beers as Skipper of State?
Tubonium,
Ya wanna talk gross? Ya wanna know what a "Cleveland steamer" is or where the band Arab Strap got their name from?
Clinton should insist on testifying publicly before the 9/11 Commission. It would be great to see the warfloggers' and pundits' heads explode.
Bush, who has so far only supported Venezuela’s opposition more or less covertly.
Bit of an understatement, I'd say.
How about the Mexican Hat Dance?
chris tx yes internet feed, portland...liquid viewer
Salt Water,
Send your objections to the Kerry people, then. Make them stand up and explain their actions. It's indeed a serious question. Make them answerable.
"Clinton should insist on testifying publicly before the 9/11 Commission. It would be great to see the warfloggers' and pundits' heads explode."
Heh heh!
Speaking of AirAmerica, I would like to know the opinions of people here.
I find Randi Rhodes a refreshing change from the usual NPR types that bore most people to tears. She may have the charisma to win some new converts.
Franken is awesome as usual, and his radio skills have improved greatly from Wednesday's rather awkward performance.
Majority Report sounds a bit too much like smug college radio. The woman who is lucky enough to share a studio with Chuck D is awful. Give Chuck his own show, please. Don't waste his talents by pairing him up with some Uber-White Liberal Arts Grrrl.
Anyhow, thats my two cents.
Suspects in Madrid Train Attacks Said to Die in Blast They Set
Gabriel | Email | Homepage | 04.03.04 - 7:05 pm | #
So much for the inane notion that AQ was targetting the election.
.....
That Observer Article is dynamite, especially to Blair. And how about France trying to give an out to the Bush Administration. That will blow some winger minds (granted not much of an explosion but still).
I also agree with George Johnson, Clinton should ask the Commission if they wish him to TESTIFY in PUBLIC.
That should be fun and it might force Bush to do the same.
Salt Water, if it isn't gaining traction here, it cerainly isn't going to resonate in mainstream America.
right now is diebolt voting (www.airamericaradio.com). Majority report with atrios is from past wednesday, the first show.
At least now the Spanish folks have a government that is not confused between groups and will level with the Spanish people.
.....
At first, Rhandi Rhodes irritated me (her voice, I guess), but she's grown on me.
I like Majority Report.
Maybe I'm biased though, having a longtime crush on Janeane.
cleveland steamer, arab strap: googled 'em. And, yuck--but the d-pipe shake still maintains an (un)healthy lead...
Phredd
Well, I just think he tries too hard to be cool, and he gets stroked too much. So, I think it comes out a little patronizing. Compared to other prominent blogs: Marshall, Alterman…. Yet, I read it everyday and am glad he blogs so often. I guess I don’t look on Eschaton as a little club.
Marshall, Alterman
You mean blogs that don't have comments?
I just read the Naomi Klein article. Dammit, haven't they done enough?! As if it weren't bad enough that Americans have been blithely traipsing around the world making life miserable for everyone with their sense of entitlement and general lack of manners, now they're wearing our maple leaf while they do it!!
Klein and her Canadian friends need to tell the Iraqis how to tell Canadians from Americans, and the way they do it is similar to the way it's been done for centuries:
Judges 12:6
Then said they unto him, Say now Shibboleth: and he said Sibboleth: for he could not frame to pronounce [it] right. Then they took him, and slew him at the passages of Jordan: and there fell at that time of the Ephraimites forty and two thousand.
There are no Americans who can say "sorry" in twelve different ways like Canadians can, nor perfectly phrase a tag question "eh?", nor pronounce a schwa (as in "about" in most Canadian dialects -- an aou, not "oo")...
Or Make That Minnie 69,
Minnie,
Yes the Spanish Communists that have come to Power have clearly stopped the ScumBugs!
Hahahahaha!
Stupid Europeans! Tricks are for Arabs.
I guess I don’t look on Eschaton as a little club.
More like an all-night diner.
Why do I get the feeling that a certain obsessed "someone" is back amongst us?
I said that today on an earlier thread. I guess great minds think alike, eh?
as a fellow canuck, Interrobang I concur
Great article on Colin Powell in the latest American Prospect. The cover bullet is: "The Shame of Colin Powell-How a great general became a failed statesman". The article then establishes that Powell wasn't all that great a general. It's an absolutely devastating deconstruction of Powell's career, My Lai, Iran-Contra, everything, and ties it into his role in the current mess. The piece concludes that Powell has little backbone and less vision. Author Michael Steinberger has done a tremendous service. It is WAY past time the myth of "noble Colin Powell" got the exploding it deserves.
The article is available on line. www.prospect.org. Click the "Current Issue" tab, the article link is titled "Misoverestimated".
Selah.
Actually, pie, it has gained traction as well as evoked responses of support for the criticism.
Just Plain Backslider and Scorpio to name but a bare few, not to mention those who read but rarely post, including an entirely new audience of people who have ventured here since Atrios' appearance(s) on Air America.
While others may think that attempting to ignore this vital aspect of any hope of success is somehow a viable means of dealing with uncomfortable realities, I would suggest that it is quite the opposite.
Certainly a mature assessment of the failings and dangers posed by the inclusion of Rand Beers in the Kerry campaign is lacking by the majority of Eschaton commenters, but there are a good number who at least concur if not admit as much in writing.
I would think that those who wish to see Sen. Kerry prevail would do what they could to generate consensus about a potentially disasterous series of erros by their chosen candidate.
Beyond his infamous support of Plan Colombia and his association with the likes of Beers, Berger and Holbrooke, Sen. Kerry has clearly been the recipient of dreadful advice given his regretable statements of late regarding Venezuela.
The question becomes: Does Sen. Kerry actually regret his comments? And will he have the fortitude and courage to acknowledge them as being inappropriate.
You, pie, as well as others here, might be of the opinion that silent ascent to whatever the Kerry campaign does is the best way to express your regard for the man.
I suggest that this is an irresponsible and ultimately self-defeating stance, and that it is the responsibility of the citizenry to hold both parties accountable no matter where their sentiments lay.
As an Independent, I refuse to be silenced and be an unwitting contributor to the degredation of the democratic process.
As Richard Clarke might say: I am not the issue. The issue is the issue.
Please address your comments accordingly.
On Air America:
I would have to say that my favorite show so far is Al Franken's show.. It has made me laugh out loud several times so far..
I wish Chuck D was given his own show.. he's sort of lost in his current setting.
Randi Rhodes is loud and obnoxious but I think she's a good foil for Limbaugh.
I haven't heard Minority Report yet but Janeane is great otherwise.
I haven't heard enough of the other shows yet to make a good call..
Al Franken's Rush Limbarf impression is dead on fucking hilarious.
i'm sorry.. Majority Report...
Yes the Spanish Communists that have come to Power have clearly stopped the ScumBugs!
Guess who's still in power in Spain, you moron.
Madrid - Spain's Socialist prime minister-elect Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero is planning to govern with a 16-member cabinet split equally between men and women, Spanish radio reported on Wednesday.
Zapatero, who is set to take office in mid-April, won a shock election victory over the rightwing government of Prime Minister Jose Maria Aznar just three days after the devastating March 11
train bombings in Madrid, which killed 191 people in Spain's worst ever terrorist attack.
God, these trolls are stupid.
Am I the only one who finds Atrios to be a little patronizing? Not because of "Behave", but generally?
Rodion | Email | Homepage | 04.03.04 - 7:52 pm | #
so dont patronize his site.
pound sand, bub.
George Bush in a rare display of courtesy and intellect with the Dutch PM. (video)http://tinyurl.com/2eav5
Watch it all
cornfed hick | Email | Homepage | 04.03.04 - 7:58 pm | #
Very telling. You can see how much he enjoys welcoming guests to the 'People's House'.
I love his comment before the PM comes in.. 'write it down, I can't remember his name'... and the way he sits down, legs splayed open, I suprised he didn't give himself a good scratching.
Salt Water, people have asked you nicely to contact the Kerry campaign. Your one-note complaint is tiresome and a real turn-off.
Specter/Toomey debate reaction now online at http://www.hoeffelforsenate.com/blog/index.cfm.
Oh, it was a doozy.
OK, Here's how it is!
You folks are talking about A,erican Politics. If you are not a US Citizen, you are not qualified to contribute or vote.
So....GO AWAY!
The only Super Power in the World Must Speak.
Any Americans registered to vote in the U.S, please Post your Opinion on the United States now!
Dave:
Thanks for the shout out on Kos and the Fallujah mercs thing.
And it wasn't really a "fuck you" to MBF Ricky Vandal, or at least not in the usual way.
A good liberal ALWAYS cites sources, so readers can check for themselves. So I give readers shout-outs whenever I can. Therefore, Ricky V. got his mention, just like anyone, out of liberal principle.
Which is, come to think of it, about as sophisticated a form of "fuck you" as possible to an MBF.
Ha.
Rodion,
I used to love the White Stripes until they became popular, and now they suck.
Kinda like that?
Disturbing Mixed Signals from Senator Kerry's Latin America Policy
Kerry’s self-serving hemispheric strategy could have very grave implications for his political fate. When it comes to Latin American issues, there exists a very substantive, vocal and highly sophisticated political constituency in this county – in the hundred of thousands - regarding the region. This bloc repeatedly has denounced Bush, Secretary of State Powell, Noriega and Reich for the extremist policies being directed against Cuba, Venezuela and other left-of-center governments and movements in the region. The prospect of Ralph Nader attracting what normally would have been Kerry’s votes, particularly in a year when many Democrats had pledged to close their ears to Nader’s electoral blandishments, makes it clear that the cause for Democratic officials’ concern could be very real. At this point, Nader’s gravitational pull had been faltering as normally Democratic voters, unlike four years ago, seem to be rallying to the presumed Democratic candidate’s ranks, motivated by the fear that a pro-Nader tide could mean four more years of Bush rule.
Kerry could be making a mortal mistake by assuming that hundreds of thousands of former Nader voters, who at the present time are not in the mood to again “waste” their votes on the latter, will stick with the former at whatever price. On the contrary, Senator Kerry’s calculation that embracing a reactionary policy towards Latin America will bring about a win-win situation for him politically could be dangerously misguided. Ever since the Central American wars of the 1980s, there has been an increasingly vocal constituency within the Democratic Party— including labor, students, farm interests, multinational businesses and minorities—that has been calling for more enlightened policies towards the region. This coalition has advocated the adoption of a Latin America policy that is less belligerent, more balanced, and reflective of greater sensitivity to the region’s yearning for authentic democratization as well as its other political and economic aspirations, including the addressing issues of social justice throughout the region. If Kerry persists on his current move to the political right on hemispheric issues, he risks alienating this exceedingly important sector of his Democratic base, imperiling party cohesion and prospects for a high turnout that are essential if the Democrats are to hold any hope of defeating Bush and his huge campaign war chest in the upcoming election.
There is still time for Kerry to review his simplistic and unimaginative formulations on regional issues and abandon his mimicking of Roger Noriega and Otto Reich’s positions by beginning to articulate a clear alternative to the Bush administration’s disastrous Latin America policy. This approach would be far more enlightening than his present one in which Kerry accused Bush o
Rodion.
No. Mildly pedantic, not unreasonably.
He's a teacher.
And this is one of the better back allies to find, um, friends.
There is still time for Kerry to review his simplistic and unimaginative formulations on regional issues and abandon his mimicking of Roger Noriega and Otto Reich’s positions by beginning to articulate a clear alternative to the Bush administration’s disastrous Latin America policy. This approach would be far more enlightening than his present one in which Kerry accused Bush of “sending mixed signals by supporting undemocratic processes in our own hemisphere.” Kerry should also be denouncing the administration’s involvement in a coup attempt in Venezuela, its stubbornness in maintaining a Cuba policy that has not been reviewed since its inception almost five decades ago, and its persistent ignorance of social justice concerns. Kerry also should be condemning the White House’s bankrupt trade policy, its attempt to arm-twist its hemispheric counterparts into supporting its Middle East misadventures, and the general direction of Bush’s high-handed regional policy, including its fundamental intolerance for differing points of view.
Until his campaign begins to trumpet these criticisms and offer a clear agenda for change, Kerry’s Latin American policy will appear as nothing more than an echo of Bush’s—a position that could disaffect hundreds of thousands of Democratic voters living north of Miami-Dade County, as well as encourage the migration of tens of thousands of liberal Democrats back to Nader, at great cost to Kerry’s presidential prospects.
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Ignoring liabilities of Sen. Kerry's statements and choices = Campaigning for Nader
Salt Water - Atrios already asked you on the other thread to take it somewhere else. If you don't have anything else to add to the discourse, why are you still here.
Did you know that Paul Krugman was an Enron Advisor?
-Phredd Supporter
It must be hell to be a Bush apologist these days. You guys are really desperate, aren't you? Tsk, tsk.
Well, I just think he tries too hard to be cool, and he gets stroked too much. So, I think it comes out a little patronizing.
-Rodion
Well as they used to say in the Navy, opinions are like assholes and everybody's got one.
And why be angry at Calgary? And why here?
Still, as every Canadian on this board knows perfectly well, all US citizens abroad duck under the Maple Leaf periodically. It's not much of a problem, and friendly after all. It's when -that- doesn't work that we all need to get a little bit anxious - I don't have any more passports to travel under that people wouldn't automatically want to kill me for having....
(And if somebody could please explain to me why I find myself humming the Maple Leaf Forever these days I'd appreciate it. I mean it's not exactly trendy.)
Repukelicans are not filled with glee.
They have to sit down when they pee.
It takes them all night
To get their cocks into sight
When they find them, there's nothing to see.
As an Independent, I refuse to be silenced and be an unwitting contributor to the degredation of the democratic process.
It's already degraded.
That's why I don't concern myself with South America. We've got bigger problems here, and you're one of them.
come see my first blog interview with a super model/actress and talk some sports while there.
Someone should ask a certain poster if he is, indeed, "someone".
Let's not fool ourselves. The US uses contractors for certain jobs because they are specialists in certain fields. Another reason we use contractors is because every time a soldier dies liberals are crying CUT AND RUN. We can't cut and run. Clinton tried it. The Spaniards are trying it right now. It doesn't work. Either we fight there or HERE. So if partisan Democrats constantly play party politics with our soldiers and ther deaths, a government that knows it needs to finish the business of protecting the homeland will use contractors. And aparently, listening to Kos it works. Liberals couldn't care shit about the death of an American contractor.
chris/tx - Again you succeed in making me the issue rather than addressing the issue I've provided ample support for.
Why is this?
One can only presume it is because you, like others, simply don't know how to or are merely unwilling to engage in the appropriate criticism of the candidate you claim to support.
How does this dereliction of responsible citizenship help the candidate you'd like to see prevail? How does it invigorate the democratic process? How does it distinguish the left from the blind allegience that so many at Eschaton bemoan when it is exhibited by the Right?
Again, I'll thank you to address the topic and not my desire to see the topic be addressed.
Perhaps in doing so we can reach consensus and move on to other topics which are equally pressing and perplexing.
Until then, I have to assume that it is my duty to provide even more links about this terribly germane subject.
ricky vadal: *gargle*gargle*gargle*gargle*
Salt Water - If you think the Chavez government in Venezuala will be worse off under a Kerry presidency than under the current one, which has already actively attempted to overthrow the legally elected president at least once, you need to send the ol' gray matter in for a tune-up.
The choice isn't between Kerry or Nader because Nader cannot win. One of two candidates will win - Bush or Kerry. A vote for anyone other than Kerry helps Bush get elected. I suggest you concentrate on this simple fact, put your grievances with Kerry on the record in a letter to his campaign, and stop boring the rest of us with it. We already understand what the real choices are in this election and have made up our minds. You are simply annoying us.
I got sum misbehavin' for ya: PROOF that physicists are commies, and hate America.
If I were a true patriot like the General, I'd accuse Nelson of being unwashed, and French.
:o)
"The contents of this message are mine personally and do not reflect any position of the U.S. Government."
Windows Media Player stream from the Portland station:
mms://ccdig.liquidviewer.com/KPOJ
Cut and paste into the "Open URL" menu option.
REAL stream
As much as I hate REAL, it seems to behave better than the Windows Media stream on my Macintosh system.
Your milage may vary.
Someone should ask a certain poster if he is, indeed, "someone".
He is.
Nope, Salt Water, not going to happen. You don't get to pick which issues are germane.
Understand?
Salt Water,
I'll address the issue you raise.
I don't care about it.
There.. I addressed it. Are you satisfied?
Adam (Hoeffel for Senate):
Are you? Really? Have you been paying attention to what you've been reading here? Have you told the Boss? Does he give a shit?
Inquiring minds want to know.
Aw hell. I'm too late.
Troll shield... ACTIVATE!
Worth trying, anyways.
Ricky, the Xena rerun is on Oxygen RIGHT NOW!
Go worship your Amazon Warrior.
Don't forget the Kleenex™!
Senator Kerry, You Are Wrong on Venezuela
Dear Senator Kerry:
As a registered democrat who supports major changes to current U.S. governance, I must express my utmost disappointment and disillusionment with your March 19, 2004 Statement on Venezuela. I am a U.S. citizen of Venezuelan origin. I have voted on the democratic bill since I was first legally permitted to vote many years ago. Along with many other residents and citizens in this country, I believe the current U.S. administration has acted in ways contrary to my beliefs and perceptions of democracy and progress, and has betrayed notions of what the United States of America should truly represent and pursue in the world community.
Up until Friday’s statement, I had hope that you, as a presidential candidate, could offer the American people a true alternative and change from the brutal, insensitive and interventionist government we have had during the past four years. As a Venezuelan-American, I must tell you that your statement on Venezuela is not only highly misplaced, but also demonstrates how truly uninformed you are about the situation in Venezuela. It also leads me to believe that you have been influenced by interested parties insisting you take a stand on this issue in their favor.
You declare that international pressure should bear on President Chávez to allow the referendum to proceed, which clearly demonstrates your ignorance of the referendum process in Venezuela. As per the Venezuelan Constitution, certain procedures must first be completed before a recall referendum can be held on President Chávez’s mandate, and those clamoring for the referendum have yet to fulfill the necessary requirements that would permit such a vote to take place. It may be easy for you to make a statement on an issue you do not fully understand or care about, merely to acquire approval from a targeted voting pool, yet I would warn you to not make such whimsical declarations without first examining the entire situation.
You, as others in the current administration and Congress, may feel as though President Chávez is somehow interfering in the referendum process. But, Mr. Kerry, I suggest you seek out other news and information sources than those currently serving you, because a more accurate report of the events in Venezuela would demonstrate to you that President Chávez has taken no steps whatsoever to impede a recall referendum. Venezuela’s Electoral Council and Supreme Court are currently determining whether hundreds of thousands of potentially fraudulent signatures are subject to further review and certification. Determining whether substantial numbers of signatures on a very important petition is an issue, which I hope, you would consider worthy of scrutiny and absolute certainty. Or would you permit such a situation to occur in your own election and just let potentially fraudulent votes against you be counted wit
Ricky, want me to post all those articles about the yucky diseases the troops are getting (parasites, reactions to inoculations, strange cases of pneumonia), the suicide rates, the low morale and the 18,000 casualties?
I'll be happy to.
Woot - I had no idea that boobies had pink feet, but am sure you gave us one photo of one who did. Is that a common variable? Howcome?
Did you catch the name of the Iraqi joker whose fraudulent info Powell bought for his phoney WMD-in-trucks pitch to the UN? Curveball! The bugger goes by the name Curveball!
This will undo the Bush team for sure. They will become an object of ridicule. The facade cracks. The house of lies is about to come crashing down. To gales of laughter!
cont'd
Or would you permit such a situation to occur in your own election and just let potentially fraudulent votes against you be counted without any further verification or review?
In Venezuela, it is not President Chávez, but rather the Venezuelan people who voted for him in 1998 and 1999 and still strongly support him today, who have demanded the petitions be free from fraud and corruption and have insisted the appropriate overseeing bodies ensure a fair, true and honest electoral process.
You also mention in your March 19th Statement that President Chávez has “repeatedly undermined democratic institutions using extra-legal means, including politically motivated incarcerations, to consolidate power”. Honestly, Mr. Kerry, are you speaking of the same President Chávez who has been democratically governing Venezuela since 1998, has implemented one of the most progressive constitutions in the world in the area of human rights, has developed successful social programs that are benefiting millions of Venezuelans in the areas of health care, education, housing and jobs, and has brought more Venezuelans into the political process than any government in the nation’s history? The same President Chávez who survived a coup d’etat in April 2002 by an opposition movement that violently ousted him from his democratically elected post and then proceeded to dissolve all of Venezuela’s most treasured institutions, such as the Supreme Court, the National Assembly, the Constitution, the Public Defender and the Attorney General?
Prior to President Chávez’s administration, there were hosts of political prisoners in Venezuela. Yet since Chávez has been in office, there have been no political prisoners. This is a fact documented by Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International, and even the U.S. State Department’s Country Report on Venezuela. And more power is in the hands of the Venezuelan people than ever before. Finally, under Chávez’s governance, more Venezuelans actually have a say in their government and feel a part of their country’s progress, development and political process.
I would also ask you, Mr. Kerry, to verify just what exactly you mean by “Chávez’s policies have been detrimental to our interests…” Such a statement is not supported by fact. Under Chávez, the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) has been revitalized and the oil industry has surged in production and growth. This has benefited U.S. investors, companies and refineries substantially. Venezuela has paid off a substantial portion of its foreign debt and its own domestic industries are growing. Chávez has supported legislation in the area of indigenous rights and anti-discrimination laws, and has implemented education and social welfare policies that are far more advanced than those of the United States. If anything, Venezuela has become a world leader in socially humane governance.
As to your statements regarding President Chávez’s relationship with F
Yo... If I didn't like the links and commentary I wouldn't ever come around here. I am just saying the dude doesn't walk on water. He doesn't need to use the term "Behave" -- it's patronizing and a bit too fatherly. Who cares about the trolls?
Anyway, I hardly ever look at the comments -- a find that too many of you are here because the posts on your own blog haven't gotten enough traffic to support feedback. I am not here to allieviate my loneliness with my online friends. I just wanted to point out a minor irratation about this web site. That's all....
Salt Water- Don't be an ass.
We heard you the first time.
Slider talking 'bout Curveball. heh.
Ahh Spring is here, baseball is near...
conclusion
As to your statements regarding President Chávez’s relationship with Fidel Castro, all I can say is: give it up. Cuba is no longer any type of threat to the United States and has much to offer in the area of science, health and education. Did you know that illiteracy was eradicated in Cuba years ago? I don’t think the U.S. could boast nearly the same. In any event, most countries in Latin America and Europe maintain a diplomatic and economic relationship with Cuba. U.S. policy on Cuba is outdated and infantile.
Mr. Kerry, I wonder what the millions of Venezuelans receiving free education and health care, who are finally permitted to participate in their political processes, and who support a government that actually works in the interests of its people, would respond to your March 19th statement. Probably the same way that I would if they could vote in the U.S. presidential elections this year: by not voting for you.
You can count on me as one less democrat who will vote for you, Mr. Kerry. Your understanding of democracy is clearly as stilted as that of Mr. Bush.
Sincerely,
Eva Golinger, Esq.
Brooklyn, NY USA
* * * * *
This is exactly the kind of sentiment that should be expected if Sen. Kerry fails to retract his statements and to credibly distance himself from the likes of Rand Beers.
Those who criticize me for wanting this topic to be addressed are making it clear that they don't detest the Bush administration enough to make sure that the Democrat candidate wages a successful campaign.
With Democrats like those, who needs the Green Party?
Hey Condi. Why didn't you interview Curveball before invading Iraq? Too busy telling Foulball bedtime stories?
Any Canadians in the audience?
I've a question.
My father was born in Canada, of American parents.
Can I use this fact to make it easier for me to meet the Canadian requirements for emigration?
If it does become necessary to make a strategic withdrawal to more friendly surroundings, if you know what I mean.
Thanks in advance!
Okay Rodion, your point is made. You take exception to the word 'Behave.' We got it.
Thanks for the link, Chris Tucker!
GWPDA--
I had no idea that boobies had pink feet, but am sure you gave us one photo of one who did. Is that a common variable? Howcome?
As far as I know, there's 5 booby species in the genus Sula: the masked (Nazca), blue-footed, red-footed, brown, and Abbott's boobies.
You probably saw a red-footed.
A boobies primer, for those interested.
I'm partial to the blue-footed booby myself.
(º)(º)
vivan las tetas.
Great news via the Mpls Star Tribune -
Kerry over Bush by 12 points!!!!!
There is a goddess!
Shoot, the above post should be Kerry over Bush by 12 points in Minnesota. In my excitement I didn't give all the details, please forgive me!
Rodian,
If you would bother to read the comments once in a while, maybe you would "get it".
It's kind of an inside joke. Atrios posted an open thread a week or so ago, and we all got into a silly little thing pretending to party and trash the place while the adults were out.
Get it?
...a find that too many of you are here because the posts on your own blog haven't gotten enough traffic to support feedback.
Yes, you don't read the comments. You were absolutely right.
Can you be hoisted by your own fart?
Depends on what you ate for breakfast
This will undo the Bush team for sure. They will become an object of ridicule. The facade cracks. The house of lies is about to come crashing down. To gales of laughter!
Sorry Slider, but t'ain't gonna happen. Those of use that dislike Bush don't need more ammo - those that support him are never changing there minds.
Getting a Bush supporter to realize/admit Bush is a failure is as difficult as getting someone here to admint Clinton getting a BJ was pathetic.
No, I am not comparing Clinton to Bush - I am just stating that there are two flavors of Kool Aid - Red and Blue. Actually three, if you count the Green flavor - new and improved with Extra Self Importance.
Rodian: i am deeply troubled by the word "behave".
ExConservative, you'll have to convince me that getting a blow-job was a criminal act.
" Laugh if you must, but remember, we're a society that invented "American Idol" and Regis Philbin.
Just Plain Backslider"
And the Gong Show, and the Newlywed Game, and the Newlywed Game, and Gary Lewis & the Playboys, and Pet Rocks, and Disco....wait a minute, was that us or the French? I bet it was those damn French. You know, maybe Bush has a point on that one....
And Rush Limbaugh, and...
Salt Water, all that repetitive hollering must leave you hoarse. I'd like to take advantage of my recent enlightenment and be the first to recommend a nice, thirst-quenching dirtpipe milkshake, on behalf of the entire crew here at Eschaton. Bon appetit!
(see, class, I've decided that said milkshakes are extremely, terribly germane this season. You can't make me believe otherwise! We're going to discuss them in light of the Kerry campaign. A lot. Like Salt Water, I have spoken...and spoken...and spoken...etc...)
Salty:
Get over yourself. Your premise that Kerry's position on Venezuela will torpedo his campaign is just stupid. As noted by others, there is way more at stake in this election. your messianic zeal to "save" the Kerry campaign, if sincere, is delusional. Get back on the meds, son.
Selah.
Hey Sider,
Do you have a date with Sick of it All, yet?
Again, we want to let you know that it's OK to take it up the Ass as far as we're concerned.
It doesn't make you any less a man!
It just makes you all the more a BITCH.
HOW DID IT FEEL?!!!!!! DID YOU LIKE IT YOU FAGGOT!!!
We're gonna tyrack your wide ass dow and make you a laughingstock if you keep this faggot shit up!
Dearest Hairpie....,
No oral sex does not make one a criminal. Lying about it under oath does!!!!!!
i am deeply troubled by the word "behave".
-n69n
I too am troubled. I am troubled that some are troubled. I am more troubled that some are 'deeply' troubled. Deeply, deeply troubled about those who are troubled.
Salt Water, at this point we all just scroll past your copy and paste.
So would you please stop it?
ExConservative, you tangentially raise an important point.
We keep hearing from the media in somber voices that the country is still "deeply divided" between conservatives and liberals.
That's bullshit! The divide in this country is between the informed and the uninformed or misinformed, who are being led by people who have cynically misled and misinformed them.
I think we should all pile on this point every time we hear any of the talking heads or faux journalists raise this phony "point".
Almost all of us do, Saltaroo, almost....
salt water - I agree about the f'd up shit that has and is going on in central/south america via the u.s. government and will try and convey and change the kerrey stance but please stop posting the same thing over and over...
speaking for many
salt water - I agree about the f'd up shit that has and is going on in central/south america via the u.s. government and will try and convey and change the kerrey stance but please stop posting the same thing over and over...
speaking for many
Chris -
Did your pop declare or claim his Canadian citizenship? It was his by right of birth. In fact, did he ever actually claim his US citizenship? Born in Canada gave him Canadian citizenship, to US citizen parents gave him US citizenship, but generally he would have had to do the paperwork to claim it.
If your dad did declare his Canadian citizenship, then you might be able to use that as an argument that you were born in the US to a Canadian father. Might.
See, as a born Canadian, he did not abandon his Canadian citizenship even if he did claim his US citizenship - dual citizenship is recognised by both countries (none of this decide by 18 stuff in this case.)
Equally, if he claimed his US citizenship (had a passport or that kind of thing), he did not abandon his Canadian citizenship - he just didn't invoke it.
However, there's naught you can do on his behalf, or in lieu of his action. Getting Canadian citizenship or permanent status on the grounds that it skipped a generation might be a wee bit tricky to sneak past the Canadian migra. Ah, how I remember, submitting all the paperwork demonstrating how many times my dad had crossed the border between Alta and MT in pursuit of claiming my own Cdn-ism, to be told by the Embassy officer, with such patience, 'You western Canadians don't pay one damn bit of attention to that border, do you?' Nope.
Troll fuckwit: Lying, even under oath, about a topic not germane to the case under consideration by the court is not a crime. Ask Republican Judge Susan Webber Wright who presided over the phony Jones case (which she dismissed on summary judgement) who said so.
See the last thread for the explanation why.
Fuckwit.
Am I the only one who finds these two current events odd, given the third link here?
13 die of rabies after vampire bat attacks in Brazil (cnn)
Aventis Pasteur recalls rabies vaccine containing live virus (cnn)
"There is no evidence that rabies from bats has ever triggered an outbreak in other animals." (batcon.org)
Look Here DipShits!
There's only one reason why anyone gives a FUCK! about Venezuela.
That is because Venezueal = Over half the Oil America imports over any given year.
Otehrwise, we could simply "off" Chaves and the only people who'd give a shit were leftist losers who'd want to condemn America.
If any of you faggots (Sick of it All and BackSider - I'm talking to You!) have a problem with that, actually study what's going on in Venezuela adn rail against Chaves.
Until then, Shut Your Ugly Cream Holes!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jennifer:
That would make it a 3-way divide, with the Informed on the Left and Right, and the Uninformed in the middle. There are Misinformed all over the place, though as a (somewhat) Lefty, I'll opine that they are mostly on the right. The Right, of course, will say it is we who are Misinformed. The middle...well, they aren't sure.
I'm tired of scrolling past the humorless, monotonous posts. Sometimes I see some of my fellow liberals (i.e.; fucking 'purist' crybabies--'I'm gonna vote for Nader! Wah wah wah. I want my binky!!!') and am reminded why we are so utterly fucked.
Less oil is a good thing. Americans are overweight.
Why do trolls like to "BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!" ?
Woot?
Do boobies
hatch?
The genius of Colin Powell:
Liberals loved him because it warmed their hearts so see such a nice Negro . . . "and he speaks so well!"
Conservatives loved him because he was a good house nigger who'd empty the chamber pots, impress the club with the quality of their help, and disarm the liberals.
The boy's a genius. A war criminal, yes, but a genius.
I just read the Naomi Klein article. Dammit, haven't they done enough?! As if it weren't bad enough that Americans have been blithely traipsing around the world making life miserable for everyone with their sense of entitlement and general lack of manners, now they're wearing our maple leaf while they do it!!
You say that like its something new. I remember being treated rudely in Europe 1992-ish. Sooner or later, they would call me an American, and I'd say, but I'm Canadian, can't you see the maple leaf, to which i'd either get an apology or a statement that all American's hide under a maple leaf when in Europe.
I'm not making a statement against Americans, that's just the way it was. And obviously still is.
My father was born in Canada, of American parents.
Can I use this fact to make it easier for me to meet the Canadian requirements for emigration?
If it does become necessary to make a strategic withdrawal to more friendly surroundings, if you know what I mean.
Thanks in advance!
Chris Tucker
Yup, it should. Would help more if your father has a CDN Passport. I also know a Canadian named Chris Tucker, maybe you can steal his identity.
I think Salty got booted.
I agree, pie. Salt Water seems a tad full of himself. If he is concerned, let him send several lengthy communiques to the Kerry campaign. If we become concerned, we will do the same.
Fuck you, you name-changing puke. Why don't you go suck on Dear Leader's dick some more?
Salty was out of control tonight.
That's bullshit! The divide in this country is between the informed and the uninformed or misinformed, who are being led by people who have cynically misled and misinformed them.
Agreed Jennifer. It if very hard, even on the internet, to get a full and balanced view of what is going on. Even sites such as this are dangerously close to being the FreeRepublics of the Left - though with much, much less inbreds and mutants.
"The boy's a genius. A war criminal, yes, but a genius."
Nah, just in the right place at the right time.
"though with much, much less inbreds and mutants."
Gee, thanks.
I think.
Selah.
Sorry. I've seen the word 'faggot' and the 'up the ass' thing used one too many times tonight here by that repuke bigot. Then there's the Kerry bashing from one of our own, supposedly. Being that Kerry is the only real chance we have of getting the fucktards out of the WH, I have a low tolerance for this kind of bullshit. Usually this is a great place to read and LOL to.
Isn't piss salt water?
Hmmmmm......
I don't believe I've ever seen anyone here use the words "faggot" or "up the ass" here.
I could be wrong, of course.
Okey Dokey:
You were doing fine till you got to the last line there. The first two points are largely true, though I would have put quotes around "house nigger", just as a matter of style and clarity. But.....boy? That isn't the Liberals talking, and it isn't the Conservatives talking (though more than a few probably would say that), so who is it? Is it you talking there? If so, I'm sure I'm not alone in asking you to go find yourself another blog to troll.
Or better yet, my new motto;
"You troll, we scroll!"
Don't let the door, etc...
Listen, sorry, but some of you people are fucking nuts.
Is it REALLY so bad that you need to piss off and move to Canada or New Zealand?? For godsakes, Bush is bad, but he ain't going to start gassing people. Are YOU so radical that you pose a threat to the US Government?? Come on!!!
You are starting to sound like the wingnuts who cower before the machinations of the "HomoSexual Agenda".
Take what Limbaugh says, take what Krugman says, and I guarantee that reality falls somehere in the middle.
Although Limbaugh is completely full of shit, Buchanan is a much better example.
Some people have a hard time using language correctly. Sam Walton can't say Walmart "employees"; he has to say "associates." Ricky Vandal can't say "mercenaries"; he has to say "contractors." It is notable how people who think they can justify injustice still can't use simple time-tested words that remain, unspoken, as a challenge to their NewSpeak.
It if very hard, even on the internet, to get a full and balanced view of what is going on.
We get closer, however. It's unfortunate that this administration has been so secretive (do I need to back up that statement with verification?).
It's made it harder to get a more truthful analysis of the months since 9/11.
We never get the whole truth. But we need to know what some of the lies have been.
Oh, come on, KS, I'm not completely clueless! I know it's not new; I just rather suspect it's spread and gotten worse, which is sort fo what I'm protesting. Plus, given the current political climate here and Outside the US Media Bubble in general, there's more impetus for 1) Americans to do so in general, given public attitudes towards Americans abroad and 2) Canadians to get the shit by proxy.
I mean, it used to make the difference between rudeness and politeness, and now it's maybe the difference between life and death, and that pisses me off.
Chris T. -- You might be able to get as many as 10 points towards Canadian citizenship on the grounds of having a Canadian father. See here for more details.
Jime--maybe I'm just not scrolling fast enough.
Did Atrios say the traffic's picked up around here? Shit, this aint traffic, this is an I-10 Peasoup-Fog Chain-Reaction 114-car Pileup.
5 points for the first person to spot the joke in there.
10 points to the one who explains it to him/her.
GWPDA, thanks for the info!
I really don't know what the old man did about it. As he died in 1976, I can't ask him.
I think it might now be worth the effort to see about getting copies of birth certificates and whatnot.
Interrobang
Didn't mean to imply that you're clueless. And I see your point
Here's one I can't remember the answer to: after which major event did a US student exchange organization advise all of its overseas students to pretend to be Canadian, was it Afghanistan or Iraq? I have a feeling it was Afghanistan. It was bandied about in the news for a while, and in retrospect I think it was the earliest evidence of teh squandering of post-911 international goodwill.
Chris -
Personally, I like the identity theft option a lot - saves paperwork. I would have tried it, but everybody with my name was a relative to whom I do not speak. But you might want to chat with the migra in one of the offices in: Buffalo - Detroit - Los Angeles - New York - Seattle - Washington, D.C. just to put the personal touch on things. The people in Buffalo are really overwhelmed at the moment however - Pakistanis, Iraqis, fleeing the home of the brave(TM) you know.
Goober -- "This Diamond Ring" was a pretty good song for its time. Gary Lewis and the Playboys weren't all bad. Of course, I was in the 8th grade at the time so my critical faculties may have left something to be desired.
Silence about the mistakes of the Kerry campaign = Campaiging for Nader
Salt Water's posts just vanished? Ha! Good Lord - are skins really that thin???
How come people screaming "faggot" can stay, but someone critical of some pointless Kerry/Chavez bullshit get the heave-ho???
Ugh.
This is why Bush got in... They're Huns, we're bunnies... They're Sparta, we're Athens. Case you haven't noticed, were fighting for the character of America here... no crying about ticky tack mistakes in the campaign. Get behind your guy, cuz God knows the Reps will.
ExConservative, I'm more concerned with trying to make a living and not having to spend every cent on my meds for diabetes, high blood pressure, arthritis, et al.
I've been told by more than one employment expert to stay on disability. There's practically no company in America would hire someone with my health problems.
And, to be honest, it's not Fratboy Coward and his toadies that concern me, it's their wingnut fucktard followers that concern me.
The BushCo crowd are pragmatic little shitmonkeys. If they lose the White House, they'll bide their time until they can take it again.
It's the True Believers that are the scary ones. Fanatics never give up without a fight. Considering the calumny heaped upon Kos, for example, of wingnut irrationality at it's finest.
Thank you very much, thank you. Comin' at'cha now with an oldie but a goodie, "Wish I Knew Ya Fallujah" Thank you, thank you. We'll be here all week long at the Armageddom cafe.. don't forget to tip your waitress.. and a one and a two..
Salt Water,
I understand your concerns, but there are a lot of people here who think, no believe the Democrats are gonna save the world.
Don't worry though because they never actually tell us how they're gonna do it.
Oh, and for you more rabid Defenders of the Divine Right of the Democrats to the Vote because we got no choice, I am not a right winger or a Repug just some one lookin' for the truth.
Moving on when things got intolerable is the American way. How did YOUR ancestors get here, buddy?
That's human nature. Greener pastures and all that.
America is in many ways a very sick society. It's natural that some people might want to leave.
Also, keep in mind that the Nazis rose to power through democratic processes, and it only took them 10 years before they WERE gassing people.
And on top of it all, Salty doesn't know how to close his italics.... :-D
Chris Tucker:
Ya know, you can't just move in and start demanding the free meds.
You have to, you know, stick around for a while. contribute something.
We may be too nice, but we're not THAT too nice.
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okay, I'm off to the pub!
ExConservative, I'm more concerned with trying to make a living and not having to spend every cent on my meds for diabetes, high blood pressure, arthritis, et al.
My mistake then, Chris. And I understand your concern regarding the cost of Meds. My apologies in your case.
But I still say American is worth staying in and fighting for, the pendulum always swings back.
ExConservative, you nailed it earlier:
"FreeRepublics of the Left"
Though I disagree that Sen. Kerry's less than democratic attitude towards Venezuela is "bullshit", I am encouraged that you would find the disappearing of my posts to be less than appropriate.
ed, your comments are likewise appreciated.
Non-kool aid drinkers are not in abundance here. The difference is simply that most at Eschaton prefer their's with Nutrasweet.
cheney's so far up aWol's ass aWol's got fingernails for teeth...
Liberals couldn't care shit about the death of an American contractor.
Ricky Vandal
Well, apparently, conservatives couldn't care shit about the deaths of all the natives of the land their military is occupying.
there once was a blogger named Charlie
whose footballs were racist and sarly
said he, on a bender
with Ann Coulter's member
"her dick is all twisted and gnarly"
Chris -
You can however, move in, get a Social Insurance number, get a job, find a nice local medical practice and start buying your meds like a human being. Nice hasnt anything to do with it.
When I worked in Alta, there was one thing about the medical system that I took away and which has angered me ever since. One of the women I worked with had MS, a young woman. She quite often had to be out to the doctor, stay home, various things her illness forced her to do. All this had an effect of course. But the one thing that was completely and utterly absent from her was the fear that she wouldn't be able to see the doctor, wouldn't be able to work on getting as well as she could be, that she might have to go into work when she couldn't put one foot ahead of the other for fear of losing her job and her insurance. So - she didn't have fear, that fear, riding with her every day. And every single time now I see friends facing that fear, here, I get angry all over again. Every time I buy meds here that cost 4times as much, for no reason other than sheer greed, that anger hits me. I stick around, but, gosh all fishhooks.... Is it 'that bad' here, now? I dunno. Some days it's worse than others.
Chris - practice The Maple Leaf Forever. If you show you can sing it all the way through I bet you get your papers instantly!
No, Cap'n. Tears.
the friar: That is correct! You are not scrolling fast enough. I wasn't either and I saw the post. I think it was by "Slider" and (in a snotty kid's voice): "I'm telling"
(Yelling): "Trios, someone isn't behaving!"
"Kill Americans Markos" has just handed Bush the victory. www.dailykos.com Has anybody seen the war on the John Kerry blog after they pulled their link to Kos? My God. Pro Kos Democrats and pro Kerry democrats are ripping eaxh other apart. Democratic party is slowly turning into chaos.
http://blog.johnkerry.com/blog/
a...494.html#001494
there once was a blogger named Charlie
whose footballs were racist and sarly
said he, on a bender
with Ann Coulter's member
"her dick is all twisted and gnarly"
oops, that last comment of mine looks odd. I was just acknowledging to the friar that I, too, saw the post he mentioned that Jimi? didn't see
'slowly turning into chaos'?
My God, when were we ever otherwise? Uniformity of opinion is just, so, so -
fascist.
Yep. That's the word I wanted.
hendrix at woodstock on AA now!!
i'm liberal & i dont give a shit about The Death of Ricky Vandal
I have a question... I posted a website address in my URL (for homepage) a month or two ago. Everytime I go to make a comment, I have to delete it. Is there a way to delete it once and for all?
Salt Water sez:
...blah blah blah blah Kerry blah blah blah blah blah Venezuela blah blah blah blah Kerry blah blah blah blah Venezuela blah blah blah blah Kerry blah blah blah blah...
I say:
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...
"Non-kool aid drinkers are not in abundance here. The difference is simply that most at Eschaton prefer their's with Nutrasweet."
I like mine with honey.
Don't need me no money.
I'll vote for Kerry
and I'm a fairy,
and if gwb is the president this time next year we can all kiss our ass........GOODBYE!!!
After the revolution comes, I call dibs on Ricky.
Gonna hit you with a baseball bat, Ricky!!!
oldwhitelady-try, in Internet Explorer properties, deleting your History and hitting the "Delete Files" (or doing "Setting", then "View Files", then Control "A" [to highlight everything], then shift delete, more directly). (assuming you're on windows)
Thank You Kos,
We will enjoy our victory come Novemb. And we WILL reward those who have advocated on our behalf! Of course some of you will be audited, but suffice it to say that as a friend of Bush, You will be let off the hook!
Fuck a Bunch of Old White Ladies. Support Black America!
Old Hat,
Can I have sloppy seconds?
Hey Old Cunt,
Get fucked. You can have Ricky when you get through the real Americans (read...it'll never happen you crusty old Beotch!).
Kei & Yuri,
Godammit, I tried to teach you English, ut you just don't listen. I'm coming to Europe this summer. I will track your narrow asses down then. I'll make Kei squeal, and Yuri pledge his allegiance to Bush.
And then all will be well with my world!
Chris - practice The Maple Leaf Forever. If you show you can sing it all the way through I bet you get your papers instantly!
Hm. Since it is impossible not to look longingly toward Canada these days: Do you get any points for being able to sing, badly and off-key, everything Moxy Früvous ever recorded?
(And is it me or has this just been a damned cranky day around here?)
Lighten up, Goober. I'm no troll.
I didn't put quotes around 'house nigger,' as you say I should have, because I was stating the position of conservative crackers. They don't use quotes to spare offense. (Or maybe I didn't want you to think I was quoting Harry Belafonte, who used those words referring to Powell.)
"The boy's a genius" is praise. Substitute "lad" or "guy" for "boy" if the last term raises your PC hackles.
And yes, I freely admit I'm prejudiced. Someone puts a big banana spit in front of me, covered with hot fudge and nuts, well I'll prejudge that any day as good eats!
But I try not to be racist. It's racist to refrain from using common rhetorical devices, such as ridicule and scorn, just because the object of your contempt happens to be of a protected race. Colin gets no pass in my book. I disliked him from the day I heard he didn't know how to pronounce his first name. Now the bugger is trying to excuse his lies to the UN, shilling for Bush's war of aggression, by blaming an Iraqi stooge they call Curveball. Colin and Curveball. Sounds like kinky sex to me.
I have a question... I posted a website address in my URL (for homepage) a month or two ago. Everytime I go to make a comment, I have to delete it. Is there a way to delete it once and for all?
Delete the cookies in your web browser.
Get fucked. You can have Ricky when you get through the real Americans (read...it'll never happen you crusty old Beotch!)
Hmmm....me versus fat, middle aged greaseballs who eat Cheetos by the gross. Scary.
Kei & Yuri:
Thank you, that did the trick. Apparently, I haven't cleaned out my cookies in a long long time. I noticed there were cookies in there from last year
Hm. Since it is impossible not to look longingly toward Canada these days: Do you get any points for being able to sing, badly and off-key, everything Moxy Früvous ever recorded?
(And is it me or has this just been a damned cranky day around here?)
Silleigh
You get demerits. But those are balanced out by the increased points in the 'audace, toujours l'audace' category.
Very cranky. In every sense.
Thank you, Old Hat. You and Kei & Yuri both had the same suggestion and it worked! Very well
Repukelicans are not filled with glee.
They have to sit down when they pee.
It takes them all night
To get their cocks into sight
When they find them, there's nothing to see.
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Lime Rickey fan club forming soon
Hmmm....me versus fat, middle aged greaseballs who eat Cheetos by the gross. Scary.
Old Hat
There is a great joke about this guy who went to the doctor because his penis was orange. The doctor couldn't figure out what the problem was and asked the guy what he did jobwise. (For more enjoyment, I will use the name as the patient.)
Ricky V: "Retired",
Doc: "Well, what did you do in the past? were you around radiation or anything of that sort."
Ricky V: "Nope"
Doc: "Ok, how do you occupy your time?"
Ricky V: "Watch porno videos and eat cheetos."
Hahahah - pretty funny, huh? I love telling my mother that one. She has a favorite she read in a book and likes to ask:
How do you stop a dog from humping your leg?
Give it a blow job.
Hattie!
Who gave you permission to talk on line?!!!!
It is generally known in these parts that I can kick your ass.
It is also know that you are an excessive masturbator!
You'd best behave or your beloved Social Welfare Folks will give you a visit!
Sheesh. It's Saturday night and the "I Have Homosexual Issues" crowd is out in force...
Audaciously, bodaciously cranky 'round these parts today. I wonder if this is just a bummer side-effect of Atrios' ramped-up profile, not that I'm complaining about that.
When every wanker's wound up tight,
Frigid, fractious and forthright,
The plebes plugged up with plebiscite,
Trim the trad, go troglodyte!
It's boo time!
oh crap.. I meant to say: (For more enjoyment, I will use the name Ricky V as the patient.)
instead of:
(For more enjoyment, I will use the name as the patient.)
Oh well...
Toonscribe:
Gary & the Playboys had a few hits, before they faded out, which means a fair chunk of the country shared your lack of Musical Critical Faculties. Mine, too, for that matter. It was only later I realized what dreck a lot of the music of that period was.
GL&tP had 5 top 10 hits, all of them, would you believe, arranged by Leon fucking Russel. Whoodathunkit?
Not to fret, oldwhitelady. We got it and we loved it. Now pass the Cheetos!
Reflections on a Gift of Wingnut Pickle: How to eat a Wingnut
Don't bashful: dig in.
Let the drops of racist rhetoric run down your chin.
Sometimes I worry that all these posts are written by the same person using different names, and the only evidence I have of who the author is is this post.
Day Cart,
I am you.
Okey Dokey:
Weeelllll, Okey Dokey, then. Maybe I'm just wound up a bit tight lately. I'm with you on Powell, believe it or not, and I think PC sucks, but calling a Black man "boy" falls outside the bounds of PC, IMHO.
The quotes? "...conservative crackers. They don't use quotes to spare offense." They sure don't, because they are crackers. We aint. It's a bit hard to defend the moral high ground if we don't first climg up on it.
All of which amounts to "Ragger!"
[/hall monitor]
climg = climb. My typing finger is getting sore....
If any of you are off to bed and find yourselves unhappily without the distraction of a mate, you might ponder the following metaphysical question in your solitude and outcast state: put the question straight and blunt, is Bush or Condi the bigger cunt?
Why is the Department of Commerce's website prominently displaying what amounts to a pro Bush ad as their Top Story?
Obviously they might want to tout the strong employment figure and have news and information about it but to attribute it to "the President’s pro-growth policies." While stating "The alternative would be job-destroying tax increases and more government spending." seems a little partisan at tax payer's expense.
Juan,
Unfortunately you cna't vote in the upcoming elections.
If you could, I think we could convince you that Kerry's hiding behind his Ketchup Heiress would prove that he is the Biggest Cunt of All. Did you hear what Heinze's dead Old Man said about Kerry before he divorced his wife, and married the spouse of a dead man, and then fucked her (assuming the marriage was consumated)? He said Ketchup was a scumbag who was beneath contempt. It's just what the Repugs have been saying for years.
OK, Goober, I owe you a cold one.
You're right. Using the term "boy" in reference to an adult black man is beyond the pale, so to speak.
Just curious: Is Atrios pronounced AT-rios, Ah-trios, AY-trios or Mangrove Throat Wobbler?
Ol' Froth
Goober -- Leon Russell worked with GL & the Ps? Thanks for the info. I saw Leon Russell playing with Edgar Winter once at the Tennessee Theater in Knoxville, Tennessee. The night was sublime.
But, "Kerry is in Fact etc.:" if Kerry is ketchup, is Bush musturd?
bush was not mustered,
he is toast
I think it rhymes with DAY-TREE-HOSE
bush was not mustered,
he is toast
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Beautiful .
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Mangrove Throat-Warbler!! Diet Pepsi on the monitor! Damn, about time, too. This blog be getting strange here just lately.
Wow, 2 op eds in a row Dowdie getting her knickers all in a twist over Dubya and his delusions, her Mama Likudnik handlers may be rolling on the floor screeching at the thought of the handover .
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'Tis a bitter pill, midderpidge, when we have to pay for our own brain washing.
In the old America, this partisan use of a government agency would be illegal and unacceptable to the public (though Nixon did it all the time). Probably a violation of the Hatch Act or some other long forgotten piece of legislation intended to give democracy a chance. But in Bush's America, official criminaly goes unremarked. It the norm and expected. Our only hope is to vote the Bush gangsters out of office in November; to secure the election against theft and fraud; and to put them all on trial and hang them.
I think the word Dowdie shoulda used was Optical Illusion not Delusion, the way it used to be explained was that Delusion was a belief whereas Illusion is the perception, so Dubya may have the Delusion, but what they are trying to project is an Illusion .
But why quibble duckies, when the chick is huffing at Dubya, rock on .
Mo Dowd’s knickers twist over Dubya’s Dicey Delusions, whatever they are.
To me the biggest Delusion appears to be what she trustingly appears to report from so-called Bush strategists the wishful thinking that scenes of carnage and chaos are gonna make people wuw Dubya more and more.
To me the reality looks more prosaic, which crafty ole Dubya, far from being deluded about, is cannily aware of. And that is that every day the headline reads chaos, carnage and confusion is a day the headline reads Miserable Failure continues to Fail Miserably and that is why he looks like he is scrambling full speed ahead to facilitate the handover come what may .
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SlickWilly made the Bastardization of the US Government an art form.
Unfortunately for all Lieral Losers, Ketchup ain't no Slick Willy.
He's so gonna lose in November.
I can't wait to hear the grinding of teeth that will follow! It will be musinc to Main Stream America's Ears!
"seems a little partisan at tax payer's expense"
Just more evidence of W's fingers in every nook and cranny into all aspects of our(lives?)government.
thank you, MinnieB9.
I'm in fast company.
But there's a really creepy troll around tonite
2FbiC,
that main stream is me peeing on your leg.
Toonscribe,
I saw that tour in Philly in '89 ('90?). Great show/
As an aside: Do you think we could get one of the 9-11 Commission panel members to ask Cheney to take a drink of water while Bush answers questions about his comments concerning viewing the video of the first plane striking the Towers?
Just curious: Is Atrios pronounced AT-rios, Ah-trios, AY-trios or Mangrove Throat Wobbler?
Ol' Froth
Mangrove Throat Wobbler, of course.
Well, I think that clears it up! Back to lurking.
Ol' Froth
Whatever's happened to Kos' site? Been completely dead for half an hour or so.
DOS?
He has had his URL eliminated.
What kind of spankings?
Just Plain Backslider
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The kind Ricky Vandel gets every time his Daddy catches him using the computer without asking first... or not finishing his vegetables at dinner.
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