There are a lot of worse things they could be called. A should, but this is a civil society, right?
Strident Complainer |
04.16.04 - 6:19 pm | #
Fuck 'em. Moonies are just one more religion that we need to put up against the wall when the revolution comes. Them and marketing folks.
JoseCanseco |
04.16.04 - 6:21 pm | #
Where do you get this bizarreness? No wonder Tom Tomorrow calls you the king!
Frederick |
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04.16.04 - 6:21 pm | #
you rang random?
marskitten |
04.16.04 - 6:21 pm | #
Have you jizzed in your holy jizz sock today?
Rev. Moon |
04.16.04 - 6:21 pm | #
Incog:
Moonies? I hate them with all my marrow. Even if they fund my boys...
Hayes said: "I asked him how come you didn't do the right thing, and he said, `It's because you're a Moonie and I don't want to work with you.' Then, he started saying, `Moonie, Moonie, Moonie, Moonie, Moonie.'"
Lawlor recalled saying only "Moonie, Moonie, Moonie."
Rev. Moon. are you refering to the following holy text:
"Then did he raise on high the Holy Jizz Sock of Antioch, saying, "Bless this, O Lord, that with it thou mayst blow mine load to tiny bits, in thy mercy." And the people did rejoice and did feast upon the lambs and toads and tree-sloths and fruit-bats and santorum and breakfast cereals ... Now did the Lord say, "First thou pullest thy Holy Pin. Then thou must stroke to three. Three shall be the number of the stroking and the number of the stroking shall be three. Four shalt thou not stroke, neither shalt thou stroke two, excepting that thou then proceedeth to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the number of the stroking, be reached, then lobbest thou the Holy Jizz Sock in the direction of thine foe, who, being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it."
rooser04 |
04.16.04 - 6:27 pm | #
Haha...that was my favorite part as well.
"No, your honor, I swear I didn't subject him to a quintamoonie--merely a trimoonie."
Thel |
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04.16.04 - 6:28 pm | #
Good riddance, SCO. Jerks.
Old Hat |
04.16.04 - 6:29 pm | #
I don't get it. I thought being a Moonie was a badge of honor among our right-thinking friends.
TownDrunk |
04.16.04 - 6:29 pm | #
Wake it, shake it, Mooonie! Moonie!
Up, down, turn around, come on, Moonie!
Hey she give me love and I feel all right now
Don't stop now come on Moonie!
Come on, I said yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah... !
I love you Moonie! Moonie Moonie!
I love you Moonie! Moonie Moonie!
With apologies to Toomy James & the Shondelles...
Thersites |
04.16.04 - 6:30 pm | #
The santification of semen can be read about here.
When you are done laughing, the Moonists' increasing hold on the Black Congressional Caucus is mentioned here. I'm convinced the wacky stuff is just a cover to make their serious political activities look ridiculous.
John G |
04.16.04 - 6:30 pm | #
Sung Yung Moon can suck my Long Duc Dong.
Petey Wheatstraw |
04.16.04 - 6:30 pm | #
it's true, people get testy about these things - my wife nearly slapped me for calling her a mackerel snapper, for example. i don't think they have a name for congregationalists, but if someone knows of one let me know so i can give her some ammunition to fight back.
i think anybody who advocates genocide kind of abdicates their right not to be called names. just me...
r@d@r |
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04.16.04 - 6:34 pm | #
Kaus may not be a Moonie, but he definitely is a Hackie.
Kuas |
04.16.04 - 6:34 pm | #
"The santification of semen can be read about here."
Ain't NOBODY santifin' MY pecker paste. It's MY cock snot, and I'll do what I want with it! So keep your hands off my baby batter, Sung Young Moon. God, you make me want to throw up with all your nutty talk about my penis puke.
Petey Wheatstraw |
04.16.04 - 6:35 pm | #
Then, he started saying, `Moonie, Moonie, Moonie, Moonie, Moonie.'"
Lawlor recalled saying only "Moonie, Moonie, Moonie."
Now, now children. you'll have to learn to get along or there will be no recess for you!
That being said, if somebody told me they didn' t feel comfortable working with me because of my religion, There would be some hell to pay, I assure you. On the other hand, I don't talk about my religion nor do I impose its morals on anyone else. Nor do I use it to provide righteous justification for imposing influence over the puppetstrings of govenrment and business.
Anyway... back to work
KS ~ |
04.16.04 - 6:36 pm | #
"Lawlor said he "was gay at one time and he (Hayes) knew that." Lawlor said he is no longer gay."
Me neither. I used to be gay. Now I'm just pissed.
agitpropre |
04.16.04 - 6:37 pm | #
OT, but Bush has sent Powell out to clean up his mess after taking it in the ass for Sharon.
Melanie |
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04.16.04 - 6:38 pm | #
this is really silly, folks.
petey wheatstraw, you'll be hearing from clarence thomas sooner than you'd like.
oldupperwestsideLIBERALjew |
04.16.04 - 6:39 pm | #
"What the fuck is that song about? It's right up there with Louie Louie for nonsensicalness."
Athenae:
I think you answered your own question. Like Louie Louie it's about - fucking.
Me gotta go now.
agitpropre |
04.16.04 - 6:42 pm | #
I love this story. I love everything about it. The Repugs are getting into fights with each other. This is wonderful, this is hilarious. Now maybe some real conservatives in more places will begin to think "What the hell has happened to my party?" I love it.
Tena |
04.16.04 - 6:43 pm | #
Seems like another example of the religious extremists doing their part to work the machinery of the Republican party. I just keep wondering how the Repubs can not have any of the extremists supporters crap stick to them. Kos goes off on the 4 Mercs being killed and Kerry's camp immediately disassociates themselves, even though Kos apologizes quickly. The Repubs have so many bizarre supporters, do you ever see any disassociation being done? No, they claim that the Dems are the party of the extreme left, and that anyone speaking is supposed to be speaking for all of us. How do we fight this?
dumass librual |
04.16.04 - 6:44 pm | #
Am Moon loves the outcome of the election in South Korea, soon the Unification will occur.
Will Bush be best man at that mass wedding?
cheney_usa |
04.16.04 - 6:44 pm | #
Wedding of Mass Deception.
cheney_usa |
04.16.04 - 6:44 pm | #
In case you were wondering: THERE IS NO GOD.
Boy reportedly found dead in hot oven
Associated Press
BEAUMONT -- Police are investigating the death of a a 5-year-old boy after he was found in his home this morning.
The boyfriend of the boy's mother was arrested, and police said they believe the child was a victim of a homicide.
The Beaumont Enterprise today quoted relatives saying Trey Deven Odoms was found by his mother in an oven with the heat on.
Beaumont Police Officer Carman Apple told The Associated Press that no information on where the child was found would be immediately released. An autopsy was scheduled for later today.
"We don't know the cause of death right now. There are no apparent physical injuries to the child," she said.
The boy's mother, Kathy Jo Odoms, told police she woke up around 6:45 a.m. because she was hot and smelled gas. She found the oven was on and turned it off.
After the oven was turned off, her boyfriend left and Odoms, 30, found her son's body. She last saw him alive around 9 p.m. Thursday when she put him to bed, police said.
Trey is not the biological son of the boyfriend, but a 4-year-old boy in the home is the son of Odoms and her boyfriend, police said. The other child was not harmed.
Authorities found the boyfriend at his father's home in the Baytown area. He was being questioned.
A Marylander in Texas |
04.16.04 - 6:45 pm | #
How about mooning moonies? Should be some at Madison Square Garden Aug 29.
jay taber |
04.16.04 - 6:47 pm | #
What the fuck is that song about? It's right up there with Louie Louie for nonsensicalness
It's about a girl named Mony.
Who made Tommy James, er, feel like a pony.
I would've put in the "like a pony" line, but the "p" rhyme for "Moonie" is "poonie." And that didn't sound very nice...
Thersites |
04.16.04 - 6:48 pm | #
“Louie Louie”
(Richard Berry)
Louie Louie
Oh no, me gotta go
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
Louie Louie
Oh no, me gotta go
Me fine little girl she waits for me
Me catch a ship across the sea
Me sail the ship by me all alone
Never see how I make it home
Louie Louie
Oh no, me gotta go
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
Louie Louie
Oh no, me gotta go
Three nights and days I sail the sea
Think of girl constantly
Upon the ship I know she there
I smell the rose up in her hair
Louie Louie
Oh no, me gotta go
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
Louie Louie
Oh no, me gotta go
Me see Jamaica, the moon above
Won’t be long me see me love
Take her in my arms and then
Tell her I never leave again
Louie Louie
Oh no, me gotta go
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
Louie Louie
Oh no, me gotta go
We gotta go now
I said, We gotta go now
Let’s hustle on outta here
Let’s go!
munkihaid |
04.16.04 - 6:48 pm | #
I don't really consider using pejorative names about people who follow a man who advocates genocide against homosexuals something to worry too much about.
Why does Atrios hate God?
NTodd |
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04.16.04 - 6:49 pm | #
hey, i JUST read those comments by Daily Kos about mercenaries for the first time.
PUHHHHLEASE! I couldn't agree more.
Fuck them, I plan on repeating those comments on the radio tomorrow and seeing what people think about them.
btw, why do the Pixies tour the nation and not NYC?
weinish |
04.16.04 - 6:50 pm | #
People have already commented on this, but I have to do it again.
Yes, this is the best part of the story:
Then, he started saying, `Moonie, Moonie, Moonie, Moonie, Moonie.'"
Lawlor recalled saying only "Moonie, Moonie, Moonie."
btw, why do the Pixies tour the nation and not NYC?
I don't care, THEY'RE COMING TO EUROPE!
AGAIN!
YEEEAAAAAAAAARH!
Felix Deutsch |
04.16.04 - 7:00 pm | #
btw, why do the Pixies tour the nation and not NYC?
Why do they open the tour in Minneapolis, and I only find out after the show is sold out?
Chopper |
04.16.04 - 7:01 pm | #
So he punched the guy in the arm. Like boys do in junior high? That's just about the pussiest way to express one's anger, is it not?
dingbat |
04.16.04 - 7:03 pm | #
dingbat - yes, and unfortunately the really mean streak in me is very sorry that no black eyes occurred.
Tena |
04.16.04 - 7:06 pm | #
So he punched the guy in the arm. Like boys do in junior high?
These guys are children!
With apologies to children.
pie |
04.16.04 - 7:09 pm | #
Pulling BayStar's 50m investment would kill SCO.
They only have about 60m in cash, which would leave them with next to nothing.
Atrios after one of the most depressing days i've had in terms of world news (you see i'm afraid the world is going to hell...) i cried, and i never cry ,when I saw cnn story about ali (small child lost two limbs, and his grandfather) well...
then i come in here and read this. i don't know what is funnier the story or the thread. i hope these f'n repugs. chew each other up and spit out the pieces. ok, time to go play with my semen sock.
charley |
04.16.04 - 7:23 pm | #
If you search the Tparents.org website, Peter Hayes is the Moonies' go-to guy for addressing questions of gay marriage. This from followers of a guy who calls gays "dirty dung-eating dogs."
John G |
04.16.04 - 7:32 pm | #
Did I hear someone mention the Pixies? Are they still touring? (sorry, I have been out of the loop.) God, I feel like a monkey gone to heaven.
Non Tibi Spiro |
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04.16.04 - 7:33 pm | #
charley,
I wondered where that asshat CNN reporter was so she could ask little dismembered Ali if he understood what the US had done for him, if he understood why we were there. Crap day all around. Abductions, killings, Bush, Bliar, stay the course, lies, and more death.
"Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all convictions, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?"
Shaw Kenawe |
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04.16.04 - 7:36 pm | #
I hate to even post this, but David Brooks just said that something could happen in Iraq in October that would whether help or hurt Bush.
He prefaced that remark by saying that some people had already made up their mind about their choice in November, but others weren't paying attention yet. So, I guess, that October would be crunch time.
Where the astroglide is Concerned Backdoor Martyr? Is murderous homohate permissible from non-Semites?
kei & yuri |
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04.16.04 - 7:42 pm | #
I hate to even post this, but David Brooks just said that something could happen in Iraq in October that would whether help or hurt Bush.
Huh? Could you clarify that? What exactly happened? Was he on teevee?
Old Hat |
04.16.04 - 7:43 pm | #
I work with an ex-Moonie who is still friends with a lot cult members, they all call each other Moonies according to her.
Jett |
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04.16.04 - 7:45 pm | #
Did I hear someone mention the Pixies? Are they still touring? (sorry, I have been out of the loop.) God, I feel like a monkey gone to heaven.
That is one of the funniest things I have read in a while. A formerly gay republican versus a crazy conservative Moonie in a shouting match of invectives. The only thing I can say is that both men and myself agree on one thing....
And that's all he said at the end of that particular line of questioning.
See the transcript whenever it's available.
However, I think he meant that some voters will make up their minds in October. As far as he's concerned, if Iraq looks better or worse, people will pick their candidate based on that.
Chris Matthews just gave Toomey his ass on Hardball. You'd think old Chrissy just had a testicle transplant from Nancy Pelosi.
He was getting on Toomey, a pug running against Spector in PA''s senate race. I paraphrase the exchange as I don't have a transcript yet.
Toomey said if he is elected he would help to overturn Roe V. Wade and criminalize abortions.
So Chris asks him if that is the case, what would you make the punishment for abortion? If you are criminalizing it what would happen to a woman if she had an abortion? Would you put her in prison? Would you stick her in jail for 2 or 3 years?
(I would have said: in effect, destroy the mother's life by first separating the woman from her family and then forcing her to endure prison rape, un-wanted pregnancy, drug abuse and even death.)
And toomey the little bitch that he is, just kept saying I would have to look at what types of punishment are suitable but...Chris interrupts again, but what? Would you put her in jail? Give her the death penalty for an abortion? And again, the bitch just kept saying I can't define what sort of punishment is required but since it is a crime it would have to involve a punishment, however I have not thought about what that punishment should be.
That is exactly what these evangelical facists want. To bring back stoning as an acceptible way of executing people. Executing a woman (by means of putting her in an environment that would possibly result in her death) for not wanting to have a child or unwanted pregnancy that could lead to more social problems down the line.
These facist evangelicals are really seeing this as their only opportunity. They have the power, they know (as do we) exactly what their goals are. Exactly what their aim is and even how they are bringing it about...
jack |
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04.16.04 - 7:53 pm | #
pie, i heard bill scheinder the poll dude from cnn say the same thing on CSPAN at AEI ystrday. he didn't say it would happen but if it did it will have an effect.
i think it's clear people are worried the "terrorists" are going to try to effect the election. considering Osamas' message ystrday i'd say it's a good guess, if they can. i guess you're wondering, might bush let it happen???
kerry is french, and a bad catholic?
charley |
04.16.04 - 7:54 pm | #
btw, why do the Pixies tour the nation and not NYC?
Why do they open the tour in Minneapolis, and I only find out after the show is sold out?
Chopper | Email | Homepage | 04.16.04 - 6:56 pm | #
hear, motherfucking, hear
although i'm not that sympathetic about the Pixies not being in NYC because . . . it's NYC! you live in the capital of the world. you have plenty to do. minneapolitans live in minnesota and get skipped by every single good tour. don't even mention P*****.
harveythechainsaw |
04.16.04 - 7:56 pm | #
i heard bill scheinder the poll dude from cnn say the same thing on CSPAN at AEI ystrday. he didn't say it would happen but if it did it will have an effect.
Now I've heard of gay-bashing staunchly conservative Republican Moonies. But EX-gay-bashing staunchly conservative Republican Moonies, that's a first!
Peter Hayes, a pioneer in Republican idiocy.
radmanthys |
04.16.04 - 8:01 pm | #
Pah! You damned liberals just don't understand the fine art of Politics. Repeating a phrase 5 times is the act of a childish mind, but three times is high political art; By way of example, I give you "Education, Education, Education", by that famed Chimpreciator, The Right Honorable Antony Blair, MP.
America's Nemesis |
04.16.04 - 8:01 pm | #
Ah-ha-ha-ha-haaa, moonie, moonie, moonie, now remember kiddies, don't grow up to act like those two guys. Someone tell me again why the GOP is supposed to be superior to the Dems? Frickin' moonie maroons!
the kid |
04.16.04 - 8:05 pm | #
Heh. "Unificators?" Isn't that one of Byn Rand's Bad Names??
do the religious windnuts in KY know he's a moonie?
pansypoo |
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04.16.04 - 8:12 pm | #
Major props to Shaw Kenawe for posting Yeats! And I only came up with the Shondelles...
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?"
Who knew the "rough beast" would be this Texas/Harvard dry-drunk incoherent numbnut? I'd have at least wanted the apocalypse to have some gravitas, but we're all going to die in a fireball of low farce. Oh well.
Jack, "Chris Matthews just gave Toomey his ass on Hardball. You'd think old Chrissy just had a testicle transplant from Nancy Pelosi."
jack i saw this too. and while i enjoyed it thoroughly, this is just the sort of obnoxious behaviour that makes me hate c.matthews.
he could be so good and yet he is so bad. sometimes i can't tell snls' parody from the show. but he did make it clear toomey is a pig.
charley |
04.16.04 - 8:25 pm | #
Republican infighting! I bet this was fun to watch?
When conservatives fight it's the exact opposite of Darwinian theory.
Only the lying, backstabbing, thieving, hypocrites survive.
And since shit doesn't sink, it's safe to say a lot of them rose to the top of the heap.
Man, Sam Seder is on fire tonight on the Majority Report. It seems that Mr. Liu, who owns the Chicago air time AA is renting, has some interesting lawyers - the trail leads back to the highest reaches of the Repug party.
Sam went through the whole story and got louder and louder until he was all but yelling "You know what? This is still America, Mr. Liu, and you aren't going to shut us up. We're going to stay on in Chicago, and get a different deal in LA and you are going down!" (paraphrased)
Lifted my spirits. It was excellent.
Tena |
04.16.04 - 8:29 pm | #
What's worse than being called a Moonie? Um, being called a former homosexual?
Somefuckingchick |
04.16.04 - 8:29 pm | #
I'll not have you heatherns degrading either "Mony, Mony" or "Louie, Louie". It's rock & roll, dammit, it's not supposed to make any sense. And you gotta give the Shondells love for putting "Mony, Mony" out during the height of the psychadelic era, when pop music was getting increasingly complex, high-minded and boring as fuck.
As for "Louie, Louie", the FBI actually spent around six months and $70,000 investigating the song's so-called "dirty lyrics" after the Kingsmen's smash single. So, obviously, there was precedent for Ken Starr's little hunt in terms of money-wasting stupidity.
Backslider |
04.16.04 - 8:30 pm | #
somefuckingchick,
Reckon he went back in the closet, then? I've been waiting for one of the big gay celebrities to do that. Call a big press conference, make a big deal out of it. Anne Heche is what I get. Ah well...
Or reckon he's one of those "Jesus helped me not to be gay" types, the ones that are wracked with flames-of-hell-inspired guilt anytime one of their natural gay impulses crosses their minds?
Backslider |
04.16.04 - 8:34 pm | #
It seems that Mr. Liu, who owns the Chicago air time AA is renting, has some interesting lawyers - the trail leads back to the highest reaches of the Repug party.
The whole "people are now expecting a terra attack" is EXACTLY what the bushies wanted.
They WANT all 'Murkins walking around in October with nothing but "will it be today?" "What will happen today?" "I wonder if today is the day I should call in sick."
THAT is fear mongering of the worst kind. These RIGHT WINGERS realize that fear is the only thing they can run on. They have NO issues. Just a platform consisting of hate and fear.
So they go on these shows and say "Look at Spain! Look at how they appease!" as they pack the explosives for October's REAL surprise. Forget osama and his 15 minutes of TV. Forget Cheney not dropping out. Forget Diebold too. It's all about the "terra attack" and what them terraists are gonna do to us just before the election.
We all avoid trains, planes and automobiles because we know, we've been CONDITIONED with recent events to now EXPECT to be killed by terraists and look to the election as our way out or our way in deeper.
And these right-wingers who thrive on fear and hate and division only ratchet up the uncertainty. The skepticism and the preparedness fervor. We get into that booth and we think about our security and "who can best assure it."
jack |
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04.16.04 - 8:38 pm | #
pie - Oh, the entire story is much better. If I could just remember the whole thing. Mr. Liu's lawyer is somehow related to Ken Starr - same law firm or something. It's really a piece of work.
Tena |
04.16.04 - 8:44 pm | #
Major props to Shaw Kenawe for posting Yeats! And I only came up with the Shondelles...
I was in the shower this morning and this piece from TMBG popped in my head and it made me think of exactly how disgraceful Dumbya was on TV relative to pretty much any past (read: actual) president:
So I went to the president, and I asked ole' Whats-his-name,
Has he ever gotten writer's block, or something like the same?
He just started talkin' like he was on TV,
"If there's just two songs in ya, boy, whaddya want from me?"
jsg |
04.16.04 - 8:44 pm | #
All this talk of moonies has made me hungry for a Moonpie
FahCubeUsh |
04.16.04 - 8:46 pm | #
Backslider, nobody's dissing the Shondelles. Or the Kingsmen. Saying something is nonsensical does not mean you think it's bad rock music.
And now I'm off to party like it's my birthday.
Thersites |
04.16.04 - 8:52 pm | #
Thersites,
I know. I'm just being facetious. Thought that got across with "heatherns", but c'est la vie.
And happy birthday, if it is indeed your birthday. Happy Friday if it isn't. My birthday was this past Monday, starting the last year of my twenties. Memories...
Backslider |
04.16.04 - 8:55 pm | #
Shaw Kenawe, you get my attention with that one I'm amurican but my last name is McMahon. My fav. poet too.
"Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all convictions, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
charley |
04.16.04 - 9:01 pm | #
Backslider, sorry, missed the facetiousness. For myself two of the darkest dys in my life were hearing that Joey Ramone & then Joe Strummer died. Sigh. Well, the KK did take my baby away...
'Taint my birthday. I was channeling 50 Cent. Another awesomely stupid but still somehow great song...
Sip Bacardi like it's your birthday...
Thersites |
04.16.04 - 9:05 pm | #
Therisites,
I can dig it. In these troubled times, it's the music that moves my soul and my behind that's keeping my mind sane. Well, that and massive amounts of weed. I've noticed thatI've been looking for tunes and bands that are fun rather than the heavy, introspective stuff. I imagine that's telling.
And, still, party like it's your birthday. Do that every day, I say. I often think that the American mindset is that it's "proper" to not have fun all the time, but only on specific days, whereupon you act like a total doofus. We've got the government telling us not to have fun, but to be scared, and we got the church telling us to not have fun, but to prepare for the heathen-slaughtering Jeeezus with laser eyes.
I call bullshit on that. Have fun every day. Crank up the Who or the Blasters or the Beat Farmers. Indulge in the vice of your choice. Don't hurt anyone but have fun as much as possible. Life's too short not to.
Backslider |
04.16.04 - 9:11 pm | #
I think "Cultists" is a more acurate term.
SW |
04.16.04 - 9:14 pm | #
Then, he started saying, `Moonie, Moonie, Moonie, Moonie, Moonie.'"
Lawlor recalled saying only "Moonie, Moonie, Moonie."
I tell ya, it seems like today's been a good day for funny news. for me at least.
erin |
04.16.04 - 9:14 pm | #
We could call them moonatics instead.
No, really, i understand their objection to the perjorative terms.
It would be like calling all catholics idol-worshipping papists or labeling all evangelicals as soul-sucking god-zombies.
justathought |
04.16.04 - 9:15 pm | #
I highly reccommend Dave Marsh's "Louie Louie" for those of you who need to know all there is to know and more, about America's other National Anthem. Great book.
Goober |
04.16.04 - 9:15 pm | #
"It would be like calling all catholics idol-worshipping papists or labeling all evangelicals as soul-sucking god-zombies.
justathought"
Actually, it would be more like calling all Christians "Jeezies".
Goober |
04.16.04 - 9:18 pm | #
Goober,
I've read that book. It is a good one, one of the better examples of pure rock journalism. Richard Berry got screwed, but I have to admit, the best version to me is still the Kingsmen's version. Ya know, there actually is a four-letter word during the song? You can barely hear it, tho.
Marsh is an jackass, though.
Backslider |
04.16.04 - 9:21 pm | #
"And I am running to paradise..."
Tena |
04.16.04 - 9:22 pm | #
"It would be like calling all catholics idol-worshipping papists or labeling all evangelicals as soul-sucking god-zombies.
justathought"
Actually, it would be more like calling all Christians "Jeezies".
Nah, dude, it would be like calling them Christians. It would be like if Christians, for hundreds of years, called themselves 'Christians' until everyone knew who they were. Then, for PR reasons, they decided to claim that 'Christian' was an offensive term.
Why? Because then, when they started calling themselves something different, no one would have heard of them.
It's plainly preposterous. There's nothing else to call them -- except maybe Moonists, which would reflect their far-right extremist politics. Because it's really a political movement hidden behind a wacky cult.
John G |
04.16.04 - 9:27 pm | #
Backslider:
You want music that's fun? Root Boy Slim and the Sex Change Band is just what you need. Late 70's, early 80's, and Root Boy died in '89, I think. Songs like "Boogie Till You Puke", "The Shah Is Gone", "I Used To Be A Radical" should fill the bill. Band is pretty tight musically, too.
I caught 'em live at the Park West in Chi in '79, or so, and they were very good. his 1st self-titled album is available at CDnow (on CD, of course) his last "Root 6" is available, but out of stock (or it would be on it's way to my house as we speak).
Goober |
04.16.04 - 9:40 pm | #
" Have fun every day. Crank up the Who or the Blasters or the Beat Farmers. Indulge in the vice of your choice. Don't hurt anyone but have fun as much as possible. Life's too short not to.--Backslider"
And don't forget to eat well. And I mean beautiful, glorious SLOW food. None of that fast food crap.
Living well is the best revenge.
Shaw Kenawe |
Homepage |
04.16.04 - 9:41 pm | #
"it's plainly preposterous. There's nothing else to call them --"
--do the religious windnuts in KY know he's a moonie?--
I hoped you meant "wingnuts," although "windnuts" is an oddly satisfying neologism. Anyway, not being a religious wingnut, but being a somewhat religious person from KY, I can say I never heard of anyone being a Moonie. Then again, I don't pay much attention to KY Republican politics. That is, except when Jim Bunning makes an ass of himself by saying his likely Dem. opponent Dan Mongiardo, a third-generation Italian-American and KY native, looked like Uday or Qusay. From the C-J:
"Republican U.S. Sen. Jim Bunning, at a recent GOP event, told diners that state Sen. Daniel Mongiardo, his likely opponent in the November election, looks like one of Saddam Hussein's sons.
Yesterday, his campaign said it was a joke and apologized.
"We're sorry if this joke, which got a lot of laughs, offended anyone," Bunning campaign manager David Young said."
So apparently, if the joke is funny, you don't REALLY have to apologize for it.
dingbat |
04.16.04 - 9:50 pm | #
Goober,
Sounds like it's up my alley indeed. I've got a soft spot for loose-limbed rock and roll that's got an ever-so-slight political tinge yet has tongue wedged firmly in cheeck. Of course, Mojo Nixon is one of my spiritual guideposts in this cold, cruel indie rock world. And the Rev. Billy C. Wirtz is my personal spiritual guru and, I'm proud to say, a good buddy.
Shawn,
Yeah, that too. I forgot about eating. Eating rocks. Especially Tex-Mex and Itallian. Sleeping's good, too. Nap times are very important, I think, and I honestly believe this would be a much happier country if we did the siesta thing like they do in Italy and Mexico and whatnot. Work like hell until one or so in the afternoon, have a huge lunch and then a quick nap. None of this "a millionaire before your thirty or you're a failure" nonsense.
Backslider |
04.16.04 - 10:08 pm | #
'5 to 1 no one gets out alive' jim morrison.
sorry backslider, i like the heavier more introspective stuff. well in this case more like dark, weird, heavy stuff. thinkin' maybe i should go listen to the End but this day maybe that would be a little too dark. but louie, louie is good. fck it wait a couple days go rent apocalypse now (the only american made, mass produced movie i like) seen it about a dozen times.
i'm all about the party all the time part tho, especially the weed(careful with alcohol tho, its a toxin you know. look what it did to little george.
party like it's 1999 (ugh prince) but what a bad assed guitar player. once heard a rock journalist say he was better than hendrix. pshaw, i think to myself. the other day i heard him do a rendition of whole lotta love, hands down better than paige or hendrix.
once, when i was a kid, came home from hi school, told my mom i met some interesting people, called themselves moonies. she was a little freaked, tho i don't think she quite knew what it was about. that was 77 can't believe those freaks are still around. no end to the depth of american stupidity.
charley |
04.16.04 - 10:08 pm | #
charley,
Oh, don't get me wrong. I got plenty heavy stuff - Townes Van Zandt, lots of Dylan and the old-school country - it's just as of late, I dig the good-natured rock & roll. Not lightweight, mind you, but fun. Like AC\DC fun. ZZ Top fun. Or The Faces fun. Plus, I'm in Athens and everyone is in an indie rock band that's so goddamn introspective and heartfelt, it drives one up the wall. Just the current mood, and like I said, it's probably a direct result of the incredibly fucked up situation this country finds itself in.
As for Prince, he's awesome. End of story. He's playing Atlanta soon, and hopefully, I can spare the bread to go see him.
Backslider |
04.16.04 - 10:17 pm | #
As for Prince, he's awesome. End of story.
Damn straight. My name is Prince, and I am funky!
NTodd |
Homepage |
04.16.04 - 10:24 pm | #
The moonies started claiming it was a pejorative, I believe, because people remembered their little mind controlling, evil, lying anti-american bullshit when they are called this. People don't remember what an evil bunch they are when you call them by their BS names.
Moon has used the term many times. He called his wife the #1 moonie. They used to have moonie gear like cups with the "moonie' written on them. This is another bunch of bullshit from the grand bullshitter.
ARE YOU A MEMBER OF THE MEDIA?
If so, I just want to let you know that the word "Moonie" is NOT POSSIBLY a Pejorative! After you read this article and view my evidence, then you cannot help but agree. Just briefly, let me cover a few points to PROVE without a shadow of doubt that the Moonies are LYING (Yes! Lying!) when they claim that the title Moonie is an epithet to them.
mw |
04.16.04 - 10:32 pm | #
Conservatives have sold their souls to Moon for his money and 'vision' to help them take control of our government. Moon has supported and nurtured the theocrats in the repub party to take it over. It is an obvious goal of his and the holier than thou "Christian" repubs are happy to work with him to make it happen. They are anti-american fools.
Yes, Moon wants everyone to be his slave, a moonie, but he is very, very happy if we just become an americanized version of a theocracy. When he unites the religions, he will control them.us under his umbrella. He call it the natuarl subjugation of the American population.
We ARE being subjugated.
Repugs will say they don't support his religious agenda, that is because they are BLIND FOOLS. They have given him everything he could have dreamed of...look at our country.
The soul sellers are quick to point out that Moon is anti-communist. What they fail to tell you is that democracy is on Moon's shit list for putting an end to, also.
Then the next day, September 1, 1989 Father declared Heavenly Parentism. That way, all the secular forms of ism should disappear. Democracy, too, should disappear. Worst foundation is the democratic system. Party-fighting system. That is not God's concept. How can that be the foundation of the nation owner king? Democracy is the concept of brotherhood, Cain and Abel. They are fighting. The foundation of the nation cannot be established on such a foundation. Moon 9/8/06
mw |
04.16.04 - 10:51 pm | #
This IS who the REPUBLICANS worked with to gain control of our government. Moon has spent BILLIONS propping up their movement. NO MOON NO BUSH. It IS as simple as that.
Republicans work with and HONOR a man who's overiding goal is the natural subjugation of America. How sick is that?
Yet, Moon also made clear that his longer-range goal was the destruction of the U.S. Constitution and America's democratic form of government. "History will make the position of Reverend Moon clear, and his enemies, the American population and government will bow down to him," Moon said, speaking of himself in the third person. "That is Father's tactic, the natural subjugation of the American government and population."
mw |
04.16.04 - 11:00 pm | #
Excerpt from US News and World Report March 27, 1989
Through this method of recruiting, the church(Unification) has established a network of affiliated organizations and connections in almost every conservative organization in Washington, including the Heritage Foundation, the largest of the conservative think tanks and an important source of government personnel during the Reagan administration.
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The Unification Church's newfound influence has occasioned intense debate among conservatives. One group of worried young conservatives meets regularly in private to compare notes about the problem. But little of the debate has surfaced in public forums. "Most people are afraid to address the issue because they don't want to publicize the extent of the church's involvement," says Amy Moritz of the Conservative National Center for Public Policy Research.
Because almost all conservative organizations in Washington have some ties to the church, conservatives also fear repercussions if they expose the church's role.
mw |
04.16.04 - 11:06 pm | #
To all the former homosexuals out there: Jeebus loves you. But not, you know, in that way.
Somefuckingchick |
04.16.04 - 11:22 pm | #
ooops, don't know what I did above but the link to the story of how "moonie' is NOT a epithet.
1) Rev. Moon uses the term "Moonie" to describe his followers, his personal family and EVEN himself! I can produce at least a dozen documented speeches where he has done so...LOVINGLY! I have personally heard him use the word to describe members himself!
2) You can see for yourself below, the CUP that the Moonies sold to THEIR OWN MEMBERS which is emblazoned with the MOTTO: "I'm a Moonie and I Love (Sign of a Heart) it!" Are the Moonies self-deprecating? Are they selling themselves cups with prejudiced slurs on them? Will they begin painting MOONIE on their foreheads next? Obviously, they didn't consider the term offensive!
3) There is a book of proper Moonie protocol, and religious traditions called: The Tradition. This book was produced by the Moonies and written by one of their top leaders Rev. Kwak. This book is used loyaly, even today, and every good Moonie has one, so he can properly observe the Moonie religious rites described in it's pages. In Chapter 4, Page 36, of The Moonies' own Religious Observance Guidance Book, a Unification Member is told to: "Be a Moonie. Love the world." That is a direct quote. Aren't they something else? Are they to "Be a Moonie" but just not talk about it?
mw |
04.16.04 - 11:52 pm | #
"Moonie" a perjorative? hahah
More from Maxim:
4) Moon's speeches are considered Doctrine by the members. They believe that Moon speaks "God's Word" when he gives speeches. This is interesting in that in one speech which Moon gave, he turned the word "Moonie" into an actual church doctrine, by stating: "Formation stage members are Moonies. Growth stage members are Sunnies. And Completion Stage members are Kingies." He said it! I didn't! And so now we have a problem. If a Doctor of Religion was writing a book on the doctrines and practices of The Unification Church, would he not have to include in his book, the three levels that members are to pass through? Moonie, Sunnie and Kingie?
It is Moon who has made the word Doctrinal. It is Moonie leaders who have put their foot in their mouth, in this PR SCAM gone bad! You can lie, but someone will eventually catch you!
5) Here is a quote from Rev. Moon where he actually calls members 'liars' if they don't like the public calling them Moonies! In fact, he says it is the non-members that use the word moonie that are the honest or "straight" ones, and the members, who are the liars and not "straight" if they don't like being called Moonies:
you can read the quote at the Maxim link above.
mw |
04.17.04 - 12:03 am | #
Quote from the 70s congressional investigation of Korean influence.
Alan Tate Wood, a former UC member who had been president of the FLF, described to the subcommittee some of Moon's political ambitions and activities. He said that Moon, through the UC and its numerous front organizations, wanted to acquire enough influence in America to be able to "dictate policy on major issues, to influence legislation, and move into electoral politics."
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Anti-communism is one key reason for Moon's espousal of a worldwide theocracy and rejection of some of the most fundamental tenets of American democracy. Moon finds "American-style democracy" to be "a good nursery for the growth of Communism.'' In a speech in Seoul, Moon proclaimed that God was helping to set up a final battle involving the United States, Russia, China, North Korea, South Korea, and Japan.
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Please note, Moon said that in the 70s. Those SAME six countries who make up the "six way talks" which are trying to solve the NK nuke issue.
If Moon isn't involved/influencing those discussions I will eat Tucker's tie. Moon is best buds with Kim Jong Il. He just inked a monopoly agreement to make autos in NK, as just one fer instance.
If the south were to secede tomorrow, who would stop them?
Please go away,
Love,
Minnesota
Eric |
04.17.04 - 12:26 am | #
Kingies? i guess little george made it from govy to prezy. jebby must be so jealousy.
charley |
04.17.04 - 12:34 am | #
Living well is the best revenge.
Damn straight.
Hell, I throw a wiffle ball to my 4 year old, and it's like beating these motherfuckers all to hell. Don't fear the brown people and don't worship the fear-god of the GOP. Be outside and laughing. And human. If you hear me.
The Summer of the Shark, Portastatic: best album of the new century, by the way.
Thersites |
04.17.04 - 12:36 am | #
Aren't you the leaders of the Free World?
Tired Canadian |
04.17.04 - 1:06 am | #
Tired Canadian, not for long.
charley |
04.17.04 - 1:09 am | #
Tired Canadian, not for long.
What, you mean we won't be the leaders, or we won't be free?
I can see it going either way...
Thersites |
04.17.04 - 1:27 am | #
Thersites, very good advice.
Member's of Moon organization believe they are doing good. If the guy kept him from being a delegate because he is a moonie that is not right.
I don't care if people believe Moon is a '39 Chevy if they or their parents were not conned into it and they are not manipulated to stay in. But with a political agenda like his, I think people should be made aware of it so they can decide. The root of the problem is that Moon's organization was never made to fall under FARA, as the 70s investigation suggested, then we would know more about how they have driven our system. The country would know where the money came from and where it went.
This group has a couple million acre camp in SA that holds 30,000 people. He had 5,000 people at a 'peace' rally in Israel, his people say they are advising the state department, he is "crowned" in the Dirkson office building, republicans and democrats in tow, and the only media that covers it in any way here is owned by Moon.
Moon says they cannot separate the political from the religious, he's said that type of thing many, many times. His organization should be recognized for what it is, a theocratic political movement which has latched to a major political party.
And they point at Soros.
also, the crack about the guy being gay. Even if it did not happen, fact is, Moon, who Hays believes speaks for G-d, is rabidly anti-gay.
Moon tells the "Christian" conservatives Jesus didn't get the job done, and they work with him. Amazing.
Back to your advice...
4? Whiffleball? May be a bit young now, but have you heard of/scouted out Speeedminton? Got a set by emailing Germany a while back - I understand it is suppose to be available here now.
mw |
04.17.04 - 1:56 am | #
...but no one knows what a Unificationist is, you see? That's what the goal is, that no one associates them with the notorious teen-snatchers of the '70s.
Hey, shocker: Insight Magazine is shutting down. So are two other Moon-backed pubs.
John G |
04.17.04 - 1:59 am | #
Moonies.
Aren't those like moon pies but made in Korea?
IXLNXS |
Homepage |
04.17.04 - 2:29 am | #
"but we're all going to die in a fire ball of low farce. Oh well"
Made me spit on my screen.
jeff farias |
04.17.04 - 2:35 am | #
Listening to Franken has re-introduced me to the healing power of Jerry Garcia's guitar.
jeff farias |
04.17.04 - 2:41 am | #
My suggestion: call them Moonbats. Screw with a lot of wingnut minds that way, and reappropriate a very silly term.
Jake Nelson |
04.17.04 - 2:43 am | #
Ain't NOBODY santifin' MY pecker paste. It's MY cock snot, and I'll do what I want with it! So keep your hands off my baby batter, Sung Young Moon.
Who you calling nutty, Petey?
Arnold Ziffel |
04.17.04 - 2:43 am | #
MW - well said. The "brainwashing" debate is a silly distraction. I have nothing against the people in the movement, who seem nice enough, but the American people need to be able to decide for themselves if they want this extremist agenda so close to Capitol Hill. (I have nothing against UFO believers, trepanners or acid freaks, either, but they're not invited to coronations with Congressmen.)
John G |
04.17.04 - 2:43 am | #
TWT and all his media have done what they were supose to do, drive us right, by backing up or making up the bs to feed the pod people. For how long have people in Idaho heard that TWT said something and not known who was behind the the wheel of the bus. He could sell TWT tomorrow, it's done its job.
News World is saying they are taking the funds and putting them in SA. I wouldn't doubt it, what is funny is how they write at the end that the ad market has been soft, like any of his rags ever made a dime.
No, he doesn't make money off his papers. And since his main source of billions has slowed he's either tightening his belt or preparing to move out of here.
TWT is kinda wordy on Insight.
Insight on the News, a national newsmagazine published every other week with a circulation of about 30,000, will continue operations and 17 members will be laid off from its staff in the District.
Then they say they will have barely a staff. W&I must have cost a fortune to produce and prolly didn't get diddley for his political buck.
JG, did he ever get his helicopter? haha The Lord may take him out in that helicopter he is so obsessed with it. haha
I hope he never thinks he isn't winning, no telling what the old devil might do.
mw |
04.17.04 - 2:43 am | #
Yeah, I still keep meaning to find out how much my journalism school dean got paid to write for World & I.
John G |
04.17.04 - 3:07 am | #
About the Pixies, how the hell can you play in Davis of all places but not LA or SF?!?!?! Where is my mind?
Sprout |
04.17.04 - 3:36 am | #
How about Moon-calves instead.
Considering that religon is an entirely voluntary association and considering the fact that any set of belief or pretended beliefs can be made into a religon maybe religon shouldn't get to follow the same rules about terms of derision as race, ethnicity, gender or sexual orientation.
I'm never going to stop pointing out that fascistic, politically active, religons have some pretty screwball beliefs and doctrines. Any religon that preaches bigotry and violence is just asking for it.
One thing that really amused me was when I found out, by hearing Phil Donahue say it, the the pc term for Mormon inc. is now the LDS Church. Considering their wacky beliefs, special underware, Angle Moroni, Golden plates, racist theology, ...
Wouldn't LSD church be closer to the truth?
EPT |
04.17.04 - 6:43 am | #
OH, don't let me forget the idea that the universe came about because the All Mighty was jerking off and it's associated ideas about sperm and every man's ability to become god-like. An exMormon told me about those. Got something to do with the underwear, I understand.
EPT |
04.17.04 - 6:45 am | #
typos, sorry. Not a perfect master myself. So shoot me.
EPT |
04.17.04 - 6:46 am | #
What do you call the asshole of a formerly gay Unificationist?
The dark side of the Moonie.
letharjk |
04.17.04 - 9:00 am | #
Moonatics?
LUNAtics?
Anonymous |
04.17.04 - 10:09 am | #
I'm still holding a candle for Dog-eaters.
EPT |
04.17.04 - 10:14 am | #
What's the equivalent of Moonie for a Scientologist. A Hubbie?
Kill Dr. Fill Vol. 2 |
04.17.04 - 10:24 am | #
I did too much LDS in the 60s. Spent a lot of the 80s wanderin' around in SF wearin' a white robe and hood to hide my pointy ears, and hangin' around a guy that called himself "Captain."
Kill Dr. Fill Vol. 2 |
04.17.04 - 10:42 am | #
Heh heh. Break up everyone, we look like a cadet revue.
John G |
04.17.04 - 11:50 am | #
"Lawlor said he is no longer gay."
What, what, what??!
Saw a commercial yesterday where a bunch of hipsters unfurl a large banner from the top of a high rise that said, "BAN INTOLERANCE".
What a bunch of crap. I am not going to be tolerant of Moonies, or canibals or child molesters or bullies or nazis or homophobes or mormons or seven day adventists or born again christians or fundamentalists of any faith or advertisers or morning zoo dj's or people who subscribe to PEOPLE or ......
I an not advocating being cruel to these people but I am not going to accept their twisted sick world view and pretend that their opinions may be as valid as mine since it is quite clear that they are fucked in the head.
Time for me to have a nice lie down.
Misanthrope |
04.17.04 - 1:55 pm | #
Sprout, the Pixies are playing Los Angeles, sort of--they're at the Coachella Festival out near Palm Springs on May 1st. They're on a bill with Radiohead (who I love but I've seen them twice already this year) and Kraftwerk and many others. I'm going to that day only. The May 2nd show actually looks better on paper.
The best part of that story for me was the ex-gay part, like that Lawlor dude could just turn his homosexuality off like a faucet.
Jim |
04.17.04 - 3:09 pm | #
The correct term is "Moon organization operative" -- unless you are a Moon Unit or one of their dupes, in which case you can say "Moonie"
Too bad the conversation is on what to call these knuckleheads instead of how such a successful foreign intelligence operation run by Japanese fascists could thrive so openly in the Land of Freedom(tm)