Funny thing is, O'Reilly *does* like donkey semen in his lattes.
Cheap Shot Artist |
05.01.04 - 10:55 am | #
SHUT UP! JUST SHUT UP!! YOU'VE HAD YOUR 35 MINUTES!!!
Anonymous |
05.01.04 - 10:56 am | #
Exact same headline I put on our KU Dems blog (see homepage) about his spat with a columnist from the Globe and Mail!
Ryan.m. |
Homepage |
05.01.04 - 10:56 am | #
Just remember Cheney stated that Fox newsis his PREFERRED station for news. HA HA HA
veritas |
05.01.04 - 11:03 am | #
Well *that* is one of the great columns of all time.
BTW, my internet connection is acting very strange today. Anyone else having problems?
alex |
05.01.04 - 11:05 am | #
Mmmmm....cherry pop tarts....
KH |
05.01.04 - 11:06 am | #
So Chickenhawk O'Lielly wants to war on Canada next?
veritas |
05.01.04 - 11:06 am | #
I remember the first time I saw O'Reilly. He was a guest on 'The Daily Show'. I thought, 'Who in the hell is this arrogant prick?'
the friar |
05.01.04 - 11:07 am | #
Fascists come in two flavors, the stupid (the cannon fodder of all fascists movements) and the willfully ignorant (they choose to be ignorant and they run the show). Paris is now Dresden in '45, Canada doesn't really supply the US with anything of note, the mayor of Vancouver is a junkie, etc. O'Reilly is the perfect poster boy for willfully ignorant American fascism.
zepper |
05.01.04 - 11:07 am | #
"He's like one of those old guys you see on the street ringing a bell and shouting about eternal damnation."
No, those guys are smarter.
everyonelovespete |
05.01.04 - 11:09 am | #
Hah, O'lielly bitchslapped in that column. He's just a typical whining republican in the guise of an "independent". Al Franken, in his book, has let the secret out of the bag that the idiot, O' Lielly, used to be a registered republican. He still denies it. Funny huh?
What was that controversy about Polk again?
red_herring59 |
05.01.04 - 11:09 am | #
Why oh why can't we get writing like that down here? I feel like a just something great for breakfast.
Melanie |
Homepage |
05.01.04 - 11:09 am | #
Dick head had on his Gansta' look last night.
Bing Crosby |
05.01.04 - 11:11 am | #
WAR WITH CANADA- The real problem is that Canada would NOT allow Faux to broadcast in Canada. THAT is why O'Lielly is really denigrating our great neighbor.
veritas |
05.01.04 - 11:12 am | #
i serve donkey semen lattes in my peabody awards.
n69n |
Homepage |
05.01.04 - 11:13 am | #
The France blasting HAS to stop. France is one of our biggest allies in Afghanistan. They were smart enough not to fall foe w's lies and go into Iraq.
veritas |
05.01.04 - 11:14 am | #
Bill O'Reilly isn't a big fat idiot, HE'S A BIG BABY. Wouldn't be surprised to see him wind up in a sanatorium. "Time for your 4:00pm pill, Mr. O'Reilly."
Gary |
05.01.04 - 11:16 am | #
So O'Reilly does donkeys!?
gonzo |
Homepage |
05.01.04 - 11:18 am | #
I've asked this bitch to fight me. Unfortunately, he's denied my request cause he knows I'll whip his candy ass. By the way I'm 5'8" and the bitch brags that he's 6'5" and that his size lets him intimidate people. Question. Well bitch if you're so "macho" why don't you take me on?
PICHIFLAY |
05.01.04 - 11:18 am | #
Lookie, Fox "news" plans retribution for Ted Koppel and Nightline: "I will just say one thing to all of your listeners," he added. "Watch 'Fox News Sunday' this Sunday because we are going to have our response to Koppel and 'Nightline.'" Asked if he was "declaring war on Ted Koppel on Sunday morning," Wallace told Carr, "You'll see. Some people may think it's that. . . It's going to make some news."
from (Ugh! Newsmax) http://tinyurl.com/347ta
elvis56 |
Homepage |
05.01.04 - 11:18 am | #
It is arguable that the EU is actually the US's biggest trading partner (see URL). Total trade (imports and exports) with the EU was higher in 2003 (395.3 billion) than with Canada (393.9 billion). But that hardly makes O'Reilly's boycott idea less stupid. He doesn't know who's buttering our bread--if you think about it, it's pretty amazing that our trade with one country is roughly equal to our trade with all of Europe. Maybe we should call them Canadian fries.
radmanthys |
Homepage |
05.01.04 - 11:18 am | #
i serve donkey semen lattes whenever I donate my time for one of those
$25 millions dollar fundraisers.
SHUT UP, I do not take a speakers fee
SHUT UP, I do too raise that much money
Sadly, this is what happens when you give Calvin his own political talk show.
And take away his stuffed tiger.
pbg |
05.01.04 - 11:21 am | #
holy crap, radman...
that means not only the Canadians, but them evil Frenchies and Germans too!
jr |
05.01.04 - 11:21 am | #
Yes, I wish some mainstream columnists around here had the balls to constantly expose O'Reilly and all the idiots like him.
After reading this column, I have this fantasy vision of living in Canada, turning on the TV and hearing smart people talk truth about what's going on in the world, picking up the paper and finding really good reading...
Oh well...
Hey look, Michael Jackson in the headlines!!!! And Bush is resolute and steadfast as he stands by Flightsuit statement!!!!!
everyonelovespete |
05.01.04 - 11:21 am | #
More Oxycontin, Mr. O'Reilly?
abygailadams |
05.01.04 - 11:24 am | #
I've always wondered why O'Lielly is so scared of Canada. Where does his hatred stem from? The only answer I can think of is jealously — jealous that Canada is not f-cked up like the US is.
Zaine Ridling |
Homepage |
05.01.04 - 11:24 am | #
It's such a pleasure to encounter real wit and intelligence.
Johnson's Dog |
05.01.04 - 11:25 am | #
God, I wish I had something intelligent to say about Bill O'Reilly but, honestly, nothing comes to mind. The whole lot of them are the most anti-American, anti-individualist, anti-intellectual, anti-Christian people I can imagine. Is there any way we can get Canada to prohibit Faux from broadcasting here?
veritas2001 |
05.01.04 - 11:25 am | #
Narcissistic Personality Disorder
An all-pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behaviour), need for admiration or adulation and lack of empathy, usually beginning by early adulthood and present in various contexts. Five (or more) of the following criteria must be met:
1. Feels grandiose and self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents to the point of lying, demands to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)
2. Is obsessed with fantasies of unlimited success, fame, fearsome power or omnipotence, unequalled brilliance (the cerebral narcissist), bodily beauty or sexual performance (the somatic narcissist), or ideal, everlasting, all-conquering love or passion
3. Firmly convinced that he or she is unique and, being special, can only be understood by, should only be treated by, or associate with, other special or unique, or high-status people (or institutions)
4. Requires excessive admiration, adulation, attention and affirmation - or, failing that, wishes to be feared and to be notorious (narcissistic supply)
5. Feels entitled. Expects unreasonable or special and favourable priority treatment.
6. Demands automatic and full compliance with his or her expectations Is "interpersonally exploitative", i.e., uses others to achieve his or her own ends
7. Devoid of empathy. Is unable or unwilling to identify with or acknowledge the feelings and needs of others
8. Constantly envious of others or believes that they feel the same about him or her
9. Arrogant, haughty behaviours or attitudes coupled with rage when frustrated, contradicted, or confronted
Copay |
05.01.04 - 11:26 am | #
Well, he can't prove that he DOESN'T do donkeys.
gonzo |
Homepage |
05.01.04 - 11:26 am | #
Asked if he was "declaring war on Ted Koppel on Sunday morning," Wallace told Carr, "You'll see. Some people may think it's that. . . It's going to make some news."
So FAUX's Chris Wallace is going to take on the network where his dad works. At least he's unintentionally honest in admitting that FAUX is interested in making news, not reporting it.
monica_nyc |
05.01.04 - 11:27 am | #
Are the Coneheads still from France?
Dr. 10.Fill |
05.01.04 - 11:27 am | #
I get a real kick out of O'Reilly. Its a show grounded in 3rd grade logic with steamy servings of horses' manure thrown in.
The only way to get right wingers off the air is to pounce on their every miscue. Continually threatening to boycott their sponsors every time right wing broadcasters say deflamatory things, which is regularly, will definitely put the kabash on the enterprise.
Carter |
05.01.04 - 11:29 am | #
We disagree with the idea that latter-day Coughlins, rather than being the very souls of the deluded "celebrity culture" they deplore, are somehow "in on it". Especially on Fox, where professional conduct in the field means anything from verbal abuse to deliberate car crashes: we will never forget an "editorial" by Neil "Mutant Fetus" Cavuto, in which he screeched about thid doctor that was a little late to see him, the Important Neli Cavuto. And we mean screeched-his voice literally broke several times. It was clear he was sincerely angry as he devoted a portion of his airtime to this laughable personal non-incident. Anyone else see this?
That, and look at Shitbird Smith's mascara mounds, or any of their fake hair. Most fake breats are smaller and less ferrously perky than Faux Newsmen Hair. These people are like low-rent post-drug versions of normal hype-homoculi, and Ann Heche is certainly preferable.
kei & yuri |
05.01.04 - 11:31 am | #
Boycott Canada? Where do you think the U.S. gets a big portion of its energy from?
NightRunner |
05.01.04 - 11:31 am | #
Who is Chris Wallace's dad? Mike Wallace? Doesn't he work for CBS?
I'm so confused...
chance |
05.01.04 - 11:31 am | #
Slightly OT, but Vancouver's mayor has, as they say in another of your neighbouring countries, cojoñes. Larry Campbell is a former narcotics officer and chief coroner of British Columbia, and he's seen the effects of the traditional "drug war" first-hand. He ran on opening up an "injection gallery" to deal with the serious heroin problem in Vancouver, and not only won, but won handily.
Technical Blandishmentiser |
05.01.04 - 11:32 am | #
Oh, wait. I was thinking of Dan Rather at CBS, not Ted Koppel at ABC.
monica_nyc |
05.01.04 - 11:33 am | #
Holy shit, just read the quoted part of the post. "We'll boycott you"?! "We'll destroy you like we destroyed France, or Dresden [notice how proud he seems]"?!!
Has anyone considered-and this really is an insult to the fine anchormonster, we aplogize, but-a comparison between O'Reilly and Morbo?
"Puny Earthlings have sent Morbo and Morbo's editor whiny letters about journalistic standards. I WILL DESTROY YOU!"
kei & yuri |
05.01.04 - 11:35 am | #
Spinnin' dangerously OT again:
How about Howard Dean as Dennis Miller's replacement on RNCNBC?
Sorry, damn blood sugar's low.
Troubling...
Dr. 10.Fill |
05.01.04 - 11:36 am | #
Zaine - Billy is fighting hard to preserve the northern border from attack by the Doukhobors*. Also, fear of Socialist Ukrainian wheatfarmers from Manitoba**, poised and waiting to sweep down the plains and overwhelm both North AND South Dakota with their evil politics. And, then there's the Social Credit*** gang out of Alberta, with their tank****, all set to launch the black helicopters from their far north secret bases*****. Oh, there is much to be terrified of there in Grandmother Country. Government-grown pot! Flower gardens and grass-fed beef and endless acres of wheat, that damned, damned world-class wheat that the Italians insist on buying rather than the okay, not too bad stuff grown patriotically in the USofA!
Billy's gonna show 'em.
-----------------------------
*- NOT Baptists.
**-The Socialists did actually control Manitoba for years. Scary, hunh.
***-Big Bill Aberhart's party, and a darn good one. Not to be confused with Socialists. They've changed their name.
****- Provincial government candidate went all out in his attempt to purchase a slightly used big old military tank. Nobody knew why, but it seemed kind of kuhl.
*****-NATO base up north. Dark blue helicopters actually.
GWPDA |
Homepage |
05.01.04 - 11:39 am | #
o-lielly and kausmaus once spent a night in a georgetown
townhouse. also, they are known to hang out together
at farms alot. developing.......
/jimm throbinson |
Homepage |
05.01.04 - 11:39 am | #
DONKEY SEMEN! DONKEY SEMEN! BILL O'REILLY WILL DEVASTATE YOU LIKE HE CRUSHED FRANCE!
Anyone else notice how all Nazis have a fetishistic thing for France? France is not really that important, but if you watch Fox you probably think it's the center of the Great Anti-Semitic/Anti-American Conspiracy.
Anonymous |
05.01.04 - 11:40 am | #
Obviously many commenters here have seen O'Reilly. I couldn't handle more than the 1 or 2 minutes I saw before clicking the remote wildly.
So, my hat's off to those with the stomach for it.
Is O'Reilly the leading indicator of what US TV news/commentary will look like down the road, or the extreme example that finally leads to a return to a more fact-based journalism?
Having recently moved from Portland OR from the liberal shelter of San Francisco, the wingnut right is more visible here and blogging more has made the danger more evident.
Now, Vancouver Canada is just a day-trip away. I'm free to move again, and have even seriously considered what another four years of BushCo, Delayism, and the O'Reillys of the political landscape might be like "real soon now".
I've been wondering if Canada will soon allow US citizens to enter and remain as political refugees. That grass sure seems greener in Canada than it does over here.
JimPortlandOR |
05.01.04 - 11:41 am | #
Alex, my connection to Eschaton is acting funny too (only this site). The postings are showing up on the far right side of the screen in about a two-inch column--with a large blank space in the middle (where postings usually are). Started happening late yesterday afternoon. I've quit and reconnected several times but it doesn't seem to fix it. Any suggestions, anyone?
On-topic, O'Reilly and Bush, can't look at either one of them anymore without getting sick to my stomach.
beck |
05.01.04 - 11:41 am | #
The funny thing is that the Globe & Mail (from wence this column came) is actually a pretty conservative newspaper. It's just not psychotic about it.
Unlike O'Lielly.
John D. |
05.01.04 - 11:41 am | #
The funny thing is that the Globe & Mail (from wence this column came) is actually a pretty conservative newspaper. It's just not psychotic about it.
Unlike O'Lielly.
John D. |
05.01.04 - 11:41 am | #
If anyone wants more of O'Reilly vs. The Globe and Mail--in this case, the columnist John Doyle--check out Paul Wells' blog here. It's funny stuff.
Scott |
05.01.04 - 11:41 am | #
The wingers hate France and all things French because they can't pronounce it.
gonzo |
Homepage |
05.01.04 - 11:42 am | #
Funny to see "atrios" calling someone else a "whiny little punk".
hat |
05.01.04 - 11:42 am | #
Heather Mallick, I love you.
Flipper Baby |
05.01.04 - 11:42 am | #
anyone have a video of this, this would be fun to see.
jefe |
05.01.04 - 11:43 am | #
Whoops! Sorry 'bout the double post.
John D. |
05.01.04 - 11:43 am | #
Is it "ignore all brownshirt trolls day" today?
gonzo |
Homepage |
05.01.04 - 11:44 am | #
Funny to see "atrios" calling someone else a "whiny little punk".
So says a whiny little punk. And on and on.
I always love it when these morons bitch about France, knowing it allows our favorite neocon to summer there.
pie |
05.01.04 - 11:46 am | #
I have lots of Canadian relatives and friends (but I live here in the great city of Boston, which I love, by the way). O'Reilly has now guaranteed that the thirty million-or-so people above the forty-nineth parallel (as well as those farther south in Ontario) think he's a sputtering idiot, including the conservatives! My friend, relatives, and compatriots are LAUGHING at him.
Usually I do not think laughing at people with deep self-esteem problems and a few personality disorders is desirable behavior, but in this case he brought it on himself.
Lexie |
05.01.04 - 11:46 am | #
i tired of his (O'Reillys)shtick some time ago
megamike |
05.01.04 - 11:48 am | #
Heather Mallick is my new hero. Brilliant, absolutely brilliant stuff.
sdf |
Homepage |
05.01.04 - 11:50 am | #
America's 4th Reich has very few friends left in the world. O'Lielly et al seems determined to make EVERY country hate us.
Note to Canadians-MOST of the people in US are NOT supporters of the 4th Reich. Pleasestandwith us as we get rid of our unelected dictatorship.
veritas |
05.01.04 - 11:56 am | #
Obviously many commenters here have seen O'Reilly. I couldn't handle more than the 1 or 2 minutes I saw before clicking the remote wildly.
So, my hat's off to those with the stomach for it.
Is O'Reilly the leading indicator of what US TV news/commentary will look like down the road, or the extreme example that finally leads to a return to a more fact-based journalism?
Having recently moved from Portland OR from the liberal shelter of San Francisco, the wingnut right is more visible here and blogging more has made the danger more evident.
Now, Vancouver Canada is just a day-trip away. I'm free to move again, and have even seriously considered what another four years of BushCo, Delayism, and the O'Reillys of the political landscape might be like "real soon now".
I've been wondering if Canada will soon allow US citizens to enter and remain as political refugees. That grass sure seems greener in Canada than it does over here.
JimPortlandOR |
05.01.04 - 11:56 am | #
Is it "ignore all brownshirt trolls day" today?
Why not everyday? The little pricks quickly whither and die without attention. Its like a two year old who tries to get attention by screaming. It's hard to ignore, and it takes patience to work, but it does work in the long run. If you reward the screaming with attention, it will be used again and again.
Another Bruce |
05.01.04 - 11:57 am | #
"Canadians are always dreaming up a lotta ways to ruin our lives. The metric system, for the love of God! Celsius! Neil Young! Canada has amassed 80% of its population along our border, the longest unprotected border in the United States. Think of your children pledging allegiance to the maple leaf. Mayonnaise on everything. Winter 11 months of the year. Anne Murray - all day, every day."
I used in live in Toronto...a great city, and a great country. Above all, a REASONABLE country. O'Reilly should be in a padded cell, and not allowed anything sharper than a rubber ball.
Philalethes |
05.01.04 - 12:06 pm | #
""we" will boycott you and destroy your economy, just like "we" did to France. I said France seemed to be doing fine. He implied that France now looked like Dresden in 1945"
Ha, this shit is surreal. It's Fallujah, not Paris, that looks like Dresden 1945.
In fact, considering the current US policies vs French policies in the War on Terror, I tend to think Paris will just be fine when many US cities will look like Dresden or Hiroshima '45.
CluelessJoe |
05.01.04 - 12:08 pm | #
The NYT LOVES Bill O'Reilly.
David Ehrenstein | Email | Homepage | 05.01.04 - 12:24 pm |
I went to that NYT's article and ended up with coffee spewed all over my laptop after reading this:
I saw your column on the Internet and I want to apologize for the rudeness of O'Reilly and his viewers. In TV terms, I think most of these people live in parts of the country that "C.S.I." couldn't use for their story lines because all the DNA is the same and there are no dental records.
Yikes |
05.01.04 - 12:09 pm | #
Bill O'Reilly may be the most honest talking head out there. I'm convinced that he never says anything he doesn't truly believe.
I think that's the sort of "honest" we try to teach our children.
Of course, so much of what he says is just wrong that it's too damned hard to take him seriously.
O'Reilly -- besides being splotchy, uncouth, and ignorant -- completes the troika of 1950s-style Catholic McCarthyite public thugs: Bennett, Buchanan, and O'Reilly. Actually, O'Reilly isn't old enough to represent the true flowering of the strain -- maybe he picked up his attitudes from an abusive father. (Now how do I explain the even stupider and younger Hannity?)
yellowdogfox |
05.01.04 - 12:11 pm | #
I watched O'Reilly once in the last year. It was the show about Rush and his Oxycontin addiction. Oh, the crocodile tears...nothing like watching one winger pretend to defend another. O'Reilly sat there the whole show with this "cat that just ate the canary" grin on his face.
chris/tx |
05.01.04 - 12:13 pm | #
As a cross-border person..a few thoughts.
#1. The media in Canada, for the most part is a lot saner, even the conservatives. Even the wacko paper, the National Post (printed by Conrad Black), is still fairly reasonable.
If you go out to Alberta 'tho, things get crazy.
#2. Tin-foil hat time! Maybe this is to start a trade war with Canada, intended to block alllllll the oil imports. Raising gas prices through the roof so companies can gouge the consumer even more.
#3. There's just not very much anti-Americanism up here. People like O'Reilly need to get over it. I currently work in the enviroment that one would think would create the MOST anti-Americanism (A technical support call center. Ouch.) and you just don't see it.
There's a definite pity..but that's a different story
Karmakin |
05.01.04 - 12:15 pm | #
Karmakin - a little secret from an Albertan. Canadians tend not to be anti-US to your face. It's considered hideously rude. When you're around long enough for folks to forget you're from the US, you may discover a slightly less convivial attitude.
GWPDA |
Homepage |
05.01.04 - 12:20 pm | #
Holy moly! (/Radar)
And yikes, Yikes. There may be some... odd people in the UK media, but I've never seen them so manic as in this post of Atrios'. Never mind Oxycontin, this guy might just need some kind of sedative himself.
And that's a good quote radamanthys - I know the EU has just gotten bigger but that's still pause for thought. Wonder how many people would know which country was the biggest trading partner with the US? Not many I guess.
TheaLogie |
05.01.04 - 12:22 pm | #
Heather wrote a great piece - once again shedding light on the weasel-dick embarassment O'Buthead. O'Buthead is obviously mentally deranged and should by removed from the air waves and professional help should be sought.
An Aside: Mr. O'Reilly, it's not a disgrace to seek help. Treating your mental illness will make you a stronger and more socially functional person. You are not alone. Of course, it will blow your ratings. Oh well.....
jimmiraybob |
05.01.04 - 12:24 pm | #
Holy shit, did anyone read the Pravda story reprinted in the Halifax paper (among the last of pretty's links in that post)? NYT spun that O'Reilly "had the last laugh" and reprinted the text of the absurd letter as if it were a legitimate complaint, as the last thing in the piece The last lines-there was no differentiation between ORielly (as quoted) or the NYT saying this directly-were "spin that, Dyle."!!
Fuck the NYT! Shave their whoring heads after liberation!
kei & yuri |
05.01.04 - 12:28 pm | #
No, Canada is f$#%ed up in a totally different way.
1 We have one Party running the place for the last 20 years (with a 8 year break from the previous 20 years).
2 Our government run health care system is underfunded and has year-long waiting lists for surgery.
3 Our newly elected Prime Minister (by his party, although at least he won his seat, about 100,000 votes) used to be finance minister and owns a shipping company that registers its ships under flags of convenience to dodge taxes.
4 The second largest province by population (Quebec) has had TWO referendums in which they narrowly decided that maybe they would stick around; at least til the next one (if they get what they want in the meantime).
5 There is a small "s" scandal about this government's (previous Prime Minister, but present PM was Finance Minister at the time) having about a billion dollar slush fund to spend on their corporate friends, mostly in Quebec.
6 During the 8 year "break" the other party's PM probably embezelled hundreds of millions of dollars to get Air Canada (a crown corporation) to buy Airbuses instead of Boeings. Air Canada is just about bankrupt now, by the way. I only say probably because he sued the government for libel and won millions of dollars.
7 At least I probably won't get drafted.
doug r |
05.01.04 - 12:31 pm | #
I've always wondered why O'Lielly is so scared of Canada.
Rightwingers are very upset about Canada on a number of issues largely because Canadians, when you get right down to it, are just WAY too much like us. So when you see the Netherlands treating drugs as a medical rather than criminal thing, well, they're the Dutch. Odd little foreigners. When we see the Swedes and the French have social programs that seem to work most of the time, and long vacations, and so on... well, they're foreign -- real foreign.
But those damn Canadians -- they speak English, they play baseball, they drive stock cars at the local dirt track, their comedians and actors appear in movies and TV largely unnoticed. They are just way too much like us, yet they have medical care, they have reasonable gun control and much a much lower murder rate even in comparable cities, they manage to have cheaper prescription drugs, they are approaching the issues of pot, and gay marriage, with a somewhat reasonable eye. They are evidence, powerful evidence, that people very much like US can have these things without tearing a society apart, if only they want to have them. That's scary -- having an example like that right next door is one of the scariest things in the world to rightwingers in the States.
QrazyQat |
05.01.04 - 12:31 pm | #
Priceless! And this putz has a respectful audience here (I hang my head that my Dad is of their number)! I may emigrate North, if Novemeber is a disaster.
grishaxxx |
05.01.04 - 12:33 pm | #
Let me point out this about Doug's points. These things, or equivalent or worse things, are happening in the USA, but they aren't talked about like they are in Canada -- they're hidden and those in power try to pretend that there's no problems at all.
QrazyQat |
05.01.04 - 12:35 pm | #
I said, no, truthfully, I think I'm regarded as "idiosyncratic" (the first six-syllable word ever spoken on the O'Reilly show), and he erupted again.
Damn those hexasyllabic words. no wonder he erupted
preznit giv me turkee |
05.01.04 - 12:36 pm | #
I don't know about you guys, but I am sickened, sickened, every time I go to St John or Moncton and see those poor people, just shells, really, dragging themselves aimlessly through the streets, zombie-like, all the drive and energy and enthusiasm and life sucked out of them by socialized medince.
I tell the children not to stare, it's rude.
And then I hear they're trying to bring this living nightmare right here to Maine.
If Wyoming had any salt water, besides the stuff they use in Coal-bed methane production, I'd leave in a hearbeat.
Davis X. Machina |
05.01.04 - 12:41 pm | #
We must not let our national fall behind! There will be no Hexasybabolobic Word gap on my watch! We cannot and will not let the Canadians win this war. Karl, get O'Reilly on the phone!
GWB |
05.01.04 - 12:42 pm | #
QrazyQat,
Insightful comments. Thanks. I've wondered about that myself (being a Canadian in academic exile in the US).
Scott |
05.01.04 - 12:42 pm | #
doug r:
1 sounds like the UK (Conservatives were running the place for yonks until Blair came along, and it's just possible that they'll reclaim their crown);
2 sounds like the UK's NHS. But at least is not dependent on the caprices of HMOs to the same extent.
4 devolution, regional assemblies... not to the same extent, but there are big headaches looming.
5,6 sheesh. But who knows what's going on behind the screens of discretion so necessary to the running of governments?
7 congratulations.
TheaLogie |
05.01.04 - 12:44 pm | #
What world exactly does O'Reilly live in? Who seriously thinks France looks like Dresden in 1945? (I don't think bringing up the one honest to god war crime WE committed in WWII is a good analogy, Bill.) And not knowing Canada is our biggest trading partner? Hello, it's right above us with an open border, so why wouldn't it be. God, the man is an idiot and a thin-skinned bully (but we knew that already).
I liked the "manic child who had eaten 800 Pop Tarts" description. I salute this woman for putting up with O'Reilly for so long. Anyone who agrees to be on his show has the patience of the ages.
gfyfe |
05.01.04 - 12:44 pm | #
I always say yes to American TV because how else are Americans going to hear about radical notions like feeding the poor and sheltering the gentle, or letting black people vote in Florida?
This is true -- god, makes me wonder why they still put up with us. Canada (and France) must have a masochistic streak.
Streaker |
05.01.04 - 1:02 pm | #
My apologies to Prime Minister Poutine for O'Reilly's rude comments.
George W. Bush |
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05.01.04 - 1:08 pm | #
Can we outsource the entire news industry (journalism, commentary, electronic) to Canada?
Pimp |
05.01.04 - 1:23 pm | #
QQ - doug r - the thing of it is, is that Canada is NOT THE UNITED STATES. This is a hard thing for folks in the middle of the North American continent to grasp, particularly if they haven't quite grasped that other places besides the US actually exist. (Listen, I spent my share of time ox-stunned as a perky US coed explained to me that under the Bill of Rights Canadians had a free press and the right to bear arms. Or possibly arm bears.) Canada has its own assortment of problems, nuttiness, conventions, bigotries and bizarre food choices. That O'Reilly and his ilk find this astonishing is only alarming in that it draws undue attention to a country that, on the whole, would rather not be too visible whilst the US is doing its periodic insane paleo-patriot dance.
GWPDA |
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05.01.04 - 1:25 pm | #
To be fair, didn't O'Reilly once take a moment to congratulate Canada on its adoption of a 24-hour clock?
The First Fan |
05.01.04 - 1:35 pm | #
Times have changed,
Our kids are getting worse
They won't obey their parents,
They just want to fart and curse.
Should we blame the government, or blame society, or should we blame the images on tv No!
Blame Canada! Blame Canada!
With all their beady little eyes,
their flapping heads so full of lies
Blame Canada! Blame Canada!
We need to form a full assault,
it's Canada's fault!
Don't blame me, for my son Stan,
He saw the darn cartoon, and now he's off to join the klan!
And my boy Eric once,
had my picture on his shelf,
but now when I see him,
he tells me to fuck myself
Well, Blame Canada!
It seems that everything's gone wrong since
Canada came along
Blame Canada! Blame Canada!
They're not even a real country anyway.
My son could have been a doctor or a lawyer,
it's a true, Instead he burned up like a piggie on a barbecue
Should we blame the matches?
Should we blame the fire,
or the doctor who allowed him to expire.
Heck no! Blame Canada! Blame Canada!
With all their hockey hulabalo
and their bitch Auny Marie too.
Blame Canada! Shame on Canada!
The smut we must stop
The trash we must smash
Laughter and fun
must all be undone
We must blame them and cause a fuss
Before someone thinks of blaming us!
renato |
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05.01.04 - 1:39 pm | #
I like donkey semen in my AMERICAN coffee.
What pisses me off is all those French-loving America-hating latte' drinkers.
Bill O'Reilly |
05.01.04 - 1:53 pm | #
I like donkey semen in my AMERICAN coffee.
What pisses me off is all those French-loving America-hating latte' drinkers.
Bill O'Reilly |
05.01.04 - 1:54 pm | #
Oh, did you hear that this weekend Faux News is going to strike back by reading all the names of the US servicemen who haven't yet been killed in Iraq? That should be great for ratings.
Alex and beck, I too am having problems accessing this site today, but only from a Mac. Explorer (for Mac) refuses to open the site at all, and Safari opens the site but the comments windows are blank. Does anyone have a suggestion?
bee |
05.01.04 - 2:05 pm | #
Occasionally I have to reload the page as it's loading. I think this is partly a function of Eschaton being heavily used at any particular moment, partly the fact that Haloscan (for a high-traffic site) is b0rken.
TheaLogie |
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05.01.04 - 2:11 pm | #
bee et al:
The only problem I'm having with Safari (IE on a Mac? For shame!) is a "no data" message, but I just reload and it's fine. It started when I upgraded to Panther, so I assumed it was that.
Try emptying your cache, cookies, and history and see if that helps.
I'm going to guess that they're going to read off the names of the WTC and Pentagon dead, all while asking why Nightline didn't do that first and every week. In the authoritarian rightist handbook, the people who died in that event must be revered, and hauled out for political points whenever necessary. They seem to believe it's their trump card--as if only white (and a few black and latino) God-fearing Republicans died on that horrible day. Kind of a sick mindset, actually.
Re: Canada's problems--doug, don't forget four broken British subs, helicopters that are considered death traps yet will be in service until at least 2010 because the current regime shot down a contract for new choppers for no good reason, and the way the previous government in Ontario left the place a financial mess. If you want to piss off an Ontarian, say that you think Mike Harris did great things for schools and the health system. Ever seen a Canuck foam at the mouth?
Re: the Social Credit party... I'll have to do some quickie research, but I'm pretty sure the party's platform took on some seriously anti-Semitic overtones. Maybe not when Aberhardt ran Alberta, but some anti-Jewish sentiment definitely developed in the party.
America has a two-party oligarchy. Canada has a semi-shifting one-party dictatorship with staged "debates". I want a serious revolution, and it's not gonna happen any time soon.
Mark Bialkowski |
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05.01.04 - 2:20 pm | #
I don't know about you guys, but I am sickened, sickened, every time I go to St John or Moncton and see those poor people, just shells, really, dragging themselves aimlessly through the streets, zombie-like, all the drive and energy and enthusiasm and life sucked out of them by socialized medince.
I guess that's why I NEVER see people like that in the US.
Fred Somebody |
05.01.04 - 2:23 pm | #
Oh, and O'Reilly vs. the Globe:
A guy who lives off 40-cent words for his fame, vs. a newspaper that relies on $40 words for their fame. What a bizarre fight. I can't believe O'Reilly's getting bogged down in a slapfight with a small-c conservative Canuck paper.
I'm amazed he doesn't have guests from the National Post, which is about as close to authoritarian right-wing as this country gets.
I still remember waking up one morning to the sounds of O'Reilly screaming at some poor analyst who dared to imply that raw intelligence jammed in a memo by Doug Feith might not be confirmed, solid facts. Fox 29 Buffalo apparently runs Fox News on Sunday mornings, and my girlfriend left the TV on overnight. The horror. THE HORROR.
Mark Bialkowski |
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05.01.04 - 2:24 pm | #
Mark -- I am still trying to figure out who all those winger Ontarians are who thought Mike Harris was so kewl, you know the ones who hired a plane to fly over a Queen's Park protest with a "Silent Majority Supports Mike" banner...... pretty silent there......
Where are they now?
Fred Somebody |
05.01.04 - 2:29 pm | #
Where are they now?
At home, grumbling that McGunity has nothing but broken promises (and he does, with a mitigating circumstance left by the Tories) while wondering when their kids will get schoolbooks.
I still don't want to live in the heart of the Empire, but man this place has had a number done on it. I'm in Windsor now for a month, and the downtown area has just been killed.
Mark Bialkowski |
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05.01.04 - 2:43 pm | #
Oops, I accidently emailed the story to O'Reilly. I also mentioned that Canada IS the US's largest trading partner and that it is the largest producer of US oil imports.
doug r |
05.01.04 - 2:47 pm | #
doug r: Canada is f$#%ed up in a totally different way.
I think you exagerate some of the problems you mention in your previous message.
1) Last six federal governments
1993-now Liberal
1984-1993 Tories
1980-1984 Liberal
1979-1980 Tories (minority)
1974-1979 Liberal
1972-1974 Liberal (minority)
2) The backlog (weeks or months) is usually for non-life threatening situations
3) True, but Martin is likely to seek a mandate from the electorate later this year (he's been running the place for less than six months).
4) the next referendum is years away. And the soveigntists are not dead yet (the Bloc leads the Grits by 15 points in Qc right now)
5) It's a big S scandal. Subvertion of the democratic will of Quebeckers with a $800 million slush fund. See #4 for Quebecker reactions to this.
6) A330 and A340 are better airplanes.
7) The CF are so short-staffed and under-equipped that I don't worry too much about that myself.
ClaudeB |
05.01.04 - 2:48 pm | #
Thank you, sport_incident, your suggestion did the trick for accessing comments when using Safari. I only just discovered Safari the day before yesterday, when I upgraded to Panther. I'd've ditched IE long ago if I'd known there was an alternative.
bee |
05.01.04 - 2:54 pm | #
bill o'reilly is an absolute nothing. why would anyone pay attention to a nothing? this is a nation of zeligs.
Anonymous |
05.01.04 - 2:56 pm | #
Someone's got him nailed. And he is to mad to be insulted by an accurate characterization.
Give Camino a try.
doug r |
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05.01.04 - 2:58 pm | #
Mark - "I'm pretty sure the party's platform took on some seriously anti-Semitic overtones. Maybe not when Aberhardt ran Alberta, but some anti-Jewish sentiment definitely developed in the party."
Yes, well, I imagine there's always a possibility that things can change between, oh, 1930 and 1990.
'Social The ideology was embraced by the Reverend "Bible Bill" William Aberhart, who formed the Alberta Social Credit League based on Douglas' ideology and Christian social values. He was elected Premier of Alberta in the 1935 provincial election. His government was probably the only one in the world that adhered to the Social Credit ideology.... Aberhart died in office, and was replaced by Ernest Manning, who discarded the theory and attempted to purge the party of anti-Semites, but kept the Social Credit name.
Social Credit formed nine consecutive majority governments spanning 36 years, one of the longest spans of a single party in government in Canadian history. "
Social Credit always retained elements of the prairie evangelical bigotries of the '30s, found equally in Kansas, Nebraska, Oklahoma - other agricultural places that had been wiped out first, by the winds and the dust, and then by the eastern bankers. Social Credit was indeed a singular success -in Alberta-, and mostly wasnt any more anti-semitic than the next populist political party. That was not, however, either under Aberhart or Manning Sr., the point. The point was to ensure economic prosperity in the face of collapse, including such wacky concepts as universal health care, children's allotments (milk money payments), the establishment of the Treasury Branch financial services to keep money out of Bank Street, frugality in administration but ensuring that societal, health, welfare and educational needs were met, and insistence that the province's resources were controlled by the province. This was why, thru out the 1940's (particularly after the Turner Valley strikes) and 50s, and well into the 60s, that Alberta was not only the most well-to-do province, but the only one without the need for a sales tax and without a single scrap of civic debt in the entire province. As all things do of course, the Social Credit party got silly and fragmented, the federal government finally got its mitts on most of the oil profits and the government staled. I cannot, however, actually explain Ralph Klein, who when last I was paying attention, was sitting at the York Hotel Bar drinking beer, day in and day out. These things happen. Social Credit had some seriously nutty things to it, but as an entity that was determinedly both bright red in social matters, and deeply conservative about money, there's a bit more to the story than that some of its folk were ignorant SOB's. And I am NOT going to instance Brian Mulroney
GWPDA |
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05.01.04 - 2:58 pm | #
To Our Canadian Friends: Next time you come to the lower 48, leave the cheese soup, bring the Manitoba Red.
Harry Cheddar |
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05.01.04 - 3:02 pm | #
You see, the thing is, that Canadians could never/would never treat their elected leaders like they were gods--'specially not the Prime Minister--it would be to laugh!
Lexie |
05.01.04 - 3:13 pm | #
No, Canada is f$#%ed up in a totally different way.
1 We have one Party running the place for the last 20 years (with a 8 year break from the previous 20 years).
There are advantages to having your government spread out all over the fuzzy center and creeping up the sides of everything like a mold in a Petri dish. They get so many moderate creds that they can get away with things like allowing gay marriage. After they dithered around and let it go on for a while, and the sky didn't fall, everyone lost interest in arguing. They infect every initiative with their own gray mediocricy and so make it seem safe and natural. If worst comes to worst, as when they couldn't find consensus on a bill regulating abortion some years back, they just ignore the problem and it usually goes away.
2 Our government run health care system is underfunded and has year-long waiting lists for surgery.
Since the budget has a healthy surplus, this is purely an optional shortage. It will end when people get pissed off enough, and not one minute sooner.
3 Our newly elected Prime Minister (by his party, although at least he won his seat, about 100,000 votes) used to be finance minister and owns a shipping company that registers its ships under flags of convenience to dodge taxes.
Being a little bent is prerequisite for the job. That way we know he has no larger ambitions on the public purse. At least he doesn't spend his evenings talking to dead people and even his dead dog, like one of our late Prime Ministers did.
an the man |
05.01.04 - 3:14 pm | #
4 The second largest province by population (Quebec) has had TWO referendums in which they narrowly decided that maybe they would stick around; at least til the next one (if they get what they want in the meantime).
C'est la vie. Now that no one cares much, they'll probably stay. Why throw a tantrum when you'll be ignored? Besides, everyone's bilingual now.... but since I'm in Vancouver, my second language is Mandarin Chinese and what I have of a third one is Japanese. Maybe I'll add some Punjabi or Spanish one day. Quebec is a long way away.
5 There is a small "s" scandal about this government's (previous Prime Minister, but present PM was Finance Minister at the time) having about a billion dollar slush fund to spend on their corporate friends, mostly in Quebec.
Quebec is a little expensive to maintain. But like some of the relationships I've had, they generate enough fun to make it worth while. We put up with its quirks because it makes it absolutely plain to everyone we're not Americans.
6 During the 8 year "break" the other party's PM probably embezelled hundreds of millions of dollars to get Air Canada (a crown corporation) to buy Airbuses instead of Boeings. Air Canada is just about bankrupt now, by the way. I only say probably because he sued the government for libel and won millions of dollars.
He probably didn't. Doesn't matter. He's an asshole anyway. My mother still has a piggybank for dollar coins in daily use, where the pig's head is Mulroney. If you did that to Bush in the US you'd probably have someone from the SS stuffing it up your fundament.
7 At least I probably won't get drafted.
Don't go too near a forest fire in British Columbia. I'm serious. Yes, you can get drafted for firefighting, on the spot, and it's for something rather more dangerous than most branches of military service
an the man |
05.01.04 - 3:15 pm | #
For a Mac alternative to I.E., I strongly recommend iCab.
Versions for System 7.6.1 on 68k Macs, the PowerMac "Classic" OS environment, OS 8 to OS 9.2.2, and Mac OS X
Despite it's wonky CSS handling (to be fixed by the 3.0 release) iCab is my browser of choice. I's small, fast and has contexual menu options unmached by other browser. Built in popup stopper that works, uses the same plugins that Netscape uses, so there's damn little in the way of lug ins it can't use.
Currently at v. 2.9.8. Free download and free use.
Give it a try.
Chris Tucker |
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05.01.04 - 3:19 pm | #
"Besides, everyone's bilingual now...."
Alas, if only Alberta could be bilingual in a form of French that anyone, anywhere could recognise. Visiting Parisians cover their eyes in horreur at what is presented, visiting -Quebecois- stare in wonder, aghast at what is thought to be 'French'. All I can imagine is that being bilingual badly is an example of Albertan humor - akin to their fixation on naming rivers in weird ways. The Bow, for example, and it's offshoot, the Elbow. The Old Man.
GWPDA |
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05.01.04 - 3:22 pm | #
Tucker Carlson admitted in his Salon interview that he looks upon Oreilly as a mere pompous jerk but who has a very good knack for rabble rousing and instilling a sense of 'mob-rule' mentality. In other words he has a way of bringing out the worst in the worst people America has ever spat out of it's aborted womb.
Nobody who has ever seen Oreilly is ignorant of the many websites dedicated to covering his many lies and tendencies towards an extreme level of rudeness.
That supporters counter by either ignoring these claims or accusing them of being lies shows they live in outright denial thus concluding that if they are incapable of seeing the evidence found via neutral sources showing how Oreilly is a lying blowhard, then they are guilty by association, and thus should be judged just as worthy of public execution for crimes against humanity as Oreilly himself.
I would prefer that Fox news not be allowed in Canada since every country, no matter how noble, has it's evil side. Those that perpetrate that evil are capable of bribing or buying out more honest Canadians concluding that any fox news outlet brought to Canada will be free to deliberately skew the news in such a manner that it will be difficult for those honest Canadians to decipher the truth from the propaganda. They will be led into shadow like so many Americans have when the propaganda of Fox news tells them they are being attacked, that conservatives are their only hope of survival, and that it is lefties and liberals who are putting them in harm’s way. Just as Herman Goering foretold, the Canadian people will find their worst sides brought to the front of their conscious mind ensuring that evil triumphs in the end and fascism will prevail.
Just like the world’s wealthiest families want it to be, and William E. Dodd warned us about.
"ITS offshoot". Lord I hate it when fingers don't know the difference.
GWPDA |
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05.01.04 - 3:23 pm | #
"I always say yes to American TV because how else are Americans going to hear about radical notions like feeding the poor and sheltering the gentle, or letting black people vote in Florida?"
O'Reilly is a blowhard, and he's steadily gotten worse over the last few years. Everyone knows that, but the author of this article is a snob, and this ridiculous condescension is unnecessary.
agentalbert |
05.01.04 - 3:41 pm | #
You have to understand Heather Mallick and be familiar with her work. She absolutely knew she was making a snobby remark. She also has a very self-deprecating sense of humour, so if anyone can be comically snobby, she can.
A Tree |
05.01.04 - 3:44 pm | #
God I'll be glad when we take over Canada.
Fox Mews |
05.01.04 - 3:56 pm | #
Ah, a snob. Someone who is not one of us. Who fails to appreciate a good O'Reilly rant, the way the folks who are real do. That ridiculous condescion - who does she think she is to be a snob? Her opinion isn't the approved one.
My friend. Try not to read her column. It's obviously too upsetting to your hard-fought perspective and deep knowledge of appropriate behaviour. Whoops, used the extra u. How non-u of me.
GWPDA |
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05.01.04 - 4:08 pm | #
Wow, that column was great. Makes me almost proud to be Canadian. Did he ever send that twit into a frenzy. Can we do this to other talk show hosts in the US? Please? I'd volunteer.
Abiel |
05.01.04 - 4:09 pm | #
I really miss The Great Eastern.
EPT |
05.01.04 - 4:13 pm | #
O'Reilly is an obnoxious blowhard. Okay you already knew that. I thought he was all bombast and puffery, and not really worth getting pissed off about.
But I remember several months ago O'Reeeeaaaally had a German diplomat on his show, and he moaned about Germany not supporting the US in Iraq and actually started yelling at the diplomat "You owe us! We saved you from the Nazis!" while just about thumping the desk and foaming.
Yelling, "You owe us!" At a diplomat, who I guess normally deals with dignitaries and heads of state.
Magnum |
05.01.04 - 4:20 pm | #
That's hilarious. The writer really nailed O'Reilly.
A conservative-leaning friend of mine sometimes like to suddenly say--when we're talking about tax cuts, for instance--"You know what? That's what socialism is."
To which I typically reply something along the lines of, "What's your point?"
I don't think America should become a socialist country, but I think elements of socialism has served us well and will continue to in the future. This whole notion of socialism being a dirty word is ridiculous.
GWPDA wrote "My friend. Try not to read her column. It's obviously too upsetting to your hard-fought perspective and deep knowledge of appropriate behaviour. "
I suppose condescension is something you appreciate, as you are condescending yourself. I happen to think a little less of the habbit.
agentalbert |
05.01.04 - 4:34 pm | #
Fox News' response to Koppel:
OPtions:
1. Read the list of chickenhawks?
2. Read the list of Republicans who have made money off the war?
3. Reveal that Koppel has a hairpiece?
4. Read the list of detainees at Gitmo?
5. Read the list of reporters who never served in uniform?
I can hardly wait. This will be good.
Does anybody know what they'll do?
cheney_usa |
05.01.04 - 5:00 pm | #
Agentalbert! Guess what? It's a free country! Try to understand that no one but (possibly) your mother gives a damn whether or not you are appropriately analysing the conduct of those around you in order to assess their suitability.
And then, my very dear friend, always remember that there are those who are condescending, and those who are condescended to.
Hell, I'd love to see Fox come up North. For most of the Nineties we had the Canadian Alliance Party up here, mainly based in Western Canada and they formed the Official Opposition federally before merging with the Conservatives to form a new right of centre party. This new right of centre party fits right in the middle of the American landscape. Think Olympia Snowe or Joe Lieberman, they'd rather fight than switch, but not by much. Bill O'Reilly might have an inital freakshow appeal up here for a month or two, but thats it. A bloody nose to Fox might be just the thing to bring some sanity south of the border. Best
Dave Worsley |
05.01.04 - 5:08 pm | #
Dave Worsley - what you said. Since we both know that Fox would hardly trim its sails to appeal to actual Canadians, but rather just widen the signal north, it would have all the appeal of a cold goat left out too long. Sort of like watching the old kinescopes of wrestling. Nifty but, um, pretty stupid.
GWPDA |
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05.01.04 - 5:14 pm | #
That column was hilarious. Except for the fact that many foreigners will think we're all like O'Reilly.
God, he's like a mad dog that needs to be put down, isn't he?
four legs good |
05.01.04 - 5:53 pm | #
Al Franken has been very good at countering OReilly in the past. The key to force Oreilly to a fight outside the protection of his minions and bendover buddies. When he's on your turf he's as vulnerable as Jenna Bush drunk in Ricky Vandal's basement dungeon.
But if you notice his and many other neoconservative lapdogs, they are very aware of this fact and go to great lengths not to appear in places where he does not have an army of loyal followers there to stage his appearance. It's very similar to whenever Bush goes somewhere he must be surrounded by suck ups and people who look upon him as the living christ.
I loved that column! I also read NYTimes' Clifford Krauss' response to it, and his using that email from "Donna" claiming that the Globe & Mail and the CBC are "communist" as though that adequately answered all of the asinine, ignorant, uncivil, belligerent emails that O'Reilly's fans sent to the two Globe columnists.
I wrote a letter to the NYTimes, wondering if Krauss also believes, as some Alberta wingnuts do, that Canada and North Korea are both "evil communist" countries because we BOTH HAVE MANDATED HEALTH CARE.
I kid you not, I heard one of our new "Conservative" party Stephen Harper's adherents interviewed, and he said that. Mind-boggling.
With respect to the Liberal government and the current scandal -- I agree that it's horrible, and I wish we had a real alternative to the Liberals. But I was raised in the Reform/Alliance/non-Progressive Conservative milieu, and to elect these guys would in essence make all of North America one big Wingnut Paradise. So I must plug my nose and try to keep the "Conservatives" out of office.
Phyl |
05.01.04 - 6:00 pm | #
How to get rid of Mr. O'Reilly. Have Howard Stern and Mel buy out Fox. Then simpley fire the idoit. Come to think of it that would solve the intire Fox factor would it not? Howard would be blessedly welcomed into Canada, Mel would make even mo money and we could share some rather more real truthful type news,fair and balanced as it were. Cool beans A.
bluesman |
05.01.04 - 6:03 pm | #
We did have Sternin Canada, at least in Toronto, for a short time. He didn't go over very well, I'm afraid.
Phyl |
05.01.04 - 6:06 pm | #
Well I didn't mean the Stern show persay. More the new (liberal type) Fox. I'm sure your country could suggest a few good changes to help them fit in.
bluesman |
05.01.04 - 6:46 pm | #
As O'Reilly goes further and further past the deep end, I'm given to wonder just how long until it's discovered that Rush isn't the only with a drug problem.
jfk |
05.01.04 - 7:33 pm | #
ordinarily, i would not listen to the idiot-savant, but there was nothing else on the radio that i could stand to listen to and i had forgotten my cds.
so i surfed to o'really while he was on this canada granting asylum rantings.
made me want to jump through the speaker to appear out of his mic and strangle that winchellist.
albert champion |
05.01.04 - 7:45 pm | #
my brother is a O'Really fan. guess who was breast fed?
pansypoo |
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05.01.04 - 8:20 pm | #
"Watch 'Fox News Sunday' this Sunday because we are going to have our response to Koppel and 'Nightline.'"
I hope someone here is going to sacrifice themselves and watch it and let us know what was on, cause I'm in Canada and I don't get FOX News.
Stern is on 92.9 FM here in Toronto, though I don't know if that station is coming from Buffalo or what. He's more interesting now that he's dealing with politics. I'm not easily offended, but all that tits/ass/lesbians/farts humour -- sure it can be funny at times, but it gets old really fast when it's all you offer day after day.
satiRic air tanK |
05.01.04 - 8:28 pm | #
OOPs, I forgot:
GO LEAFS!
satiRic air tanK |
05.01.04 - 8:30 pm | #
go leafs?
you call yourself Canadian?
splash |
05.01.04 - 10:26 pm | #
As one who since childhood has been diagnosed with rapid-cycling bipolar disorder with anxietal manic emphasis, let me assure you that Mr. O'Reilly is far, far beneath us, even those of us who habitually consumed inordinate quantities of sucrose. Children like pre-lithium-me may bounce off the walls, but we do so rather gleefully and without the calculated, malicious intent of Mr. O'Reilly.
distant hipster |
05.01.04 - 10:43 pm | #
To Our Canadian Friends: Next time you come to the lower 48, leave the cheese soup, bring the Manitoba Red.
You probably haven't noticed, but most Canadians are no longer travelling to the U.S. We're waiting out this psychotic episode and hoping for better times. Get well, America.
NightRunner |
05.01.04 - 10:44 pm | #
Boycotting Canada is no threat to their economy. Now, if we sent Bush up there and got him elected Prime Minister of Canada, THAT is how you destroy the Canadian economy.
dean |
05.01.04 - 11:10 pm | #
And don't stop the France bashing. Just get the dollar back where it was against the Euro. I figured, when the whole "Boycott the Frnech" thign started that I would be able to pick up some great wines at great prices. Love those Frnech wines. Okay, I love California wines too, and a number of Portuguese wines are phenomenal. Anyway, I go check and the falling dollar put the cost of French wines HIGHER.
"It was like talking to a manic child who had eaten 800 cherry Pop Tarts for breakfast. "
Goddamn, I wish I'd said that! What a great description, and not just of O'reilly, either. That comment could fit just about anybody at Fux (Hello Sean! Hello Shepard!!), as well as just about all the retards in the Bush regime (especially the Chimp himself).
gene214 |
05.01.04 - 11:29 pm | #
This is funny, but we're still laughing about Pat Buchanan...in between crying and frothing about Mike Harris (yes, I am Ontarian, why do you ask?) and Stephen Harper.
Still, I'd rather be here than there. The thought of being unemployed without OHIP gives me the crawling horrors.
Interrobang |
05.02.04 - 1:48 am | #
But can you taste a rainbow? Can you ride a vessel of pure light when there is no way out of that maze that you have created in your tv mind?
Phineas |
05.02.04 - 1:57 am | #
I think there's a good lesson in all of this about the value of humor. The John Doyle column linked up-thread makes the point pretty plainly:
"Many join in my amusement at the barking-mad antics on Fox News. They know, as Americans usually do, that by laughing we drain the fanatics of their significance...Bring Fox News here by all means, and let's have a laugh. Americans can learn from that."
I've read many responses to O'Reilly during the Bush presidency, and most of them have been indignant, factual refutations of his hopelessly biased propaganda and demagoguery. Maybe, if a few more of us laughed at the farce that is Bill O'Reilly, it would be a more effective response.
In any case, it sure does seem to get him and the others hot under the collar, as Al Franken showed with his book. Maybe the sacrificial liberal guests on his show should stop trying to contend logically with all the interruptions and the stacked rhetorical deck, and just burst out laughing at him on the air instead.
Turbonium |
05.02.04 - 2:13 am | #
Just another recent O'Reilly thought for ya. We're looking out for you!
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Brad Friedman |
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05.02.04 - 3:05 am | #
The thought of being unemployed without OHIP gives me the crawling horrors.
Hey, Chainsaw Mike managed to nearly tank OHIP and the entire health system, and it's still under repairs. Not to mention all the BS with trying to "fix" the schools, after his original education minister, John Snobolen got BUSTED ON VIDEO telling some business conference that he had to "create a crisis" in education to ram his changes through. In an even more bizarre twist, said waste of skin was a high school dropout.
In a final bizarre twist, Harris was himself once a high school teacher. My drama teacher, who opposed the 1997 teachers' strike but definitely did not support the Tory regime, kept forlornly wondering how Harris could carry out his blunt-axe policies even knowing what schools need to run.
Let me tell you, 1997-2001 were great years for a young adult's political awakening.
Mark Bialkowski |
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05.02.04 - 4:00 am | #
satiricairtank:yes,92.9 DOES come from Buffalo. I think the calls(WBUF)are a BIG giveaway...
Carl |
05.02.04 - 8:52 am | #
eyes on the prize, guys...
O'Leilly is PAID to be on TV to LIE.
murcans like him and racist simon cowell...
this is murca - have your fascism with a side order of racism and warmongering...
peaches en regalia |
05.02.04 - 8:54 am | #
Now, if we sent Bush up there and got him elected Prime Minister of Canada, THAT is how you destroy the Canadian economy.
Won't work -- we don't use Diebold.
Canadian Reader |
05.02.04 - 8:55 am | #
Mark -- I'm originally from the teeming metropolis of North Bay, Ontario, also the home town of Mike Harris. I even attended the school at which Harris allegedly "taught" (took up space between 9am & 3pm is more like it) -- fortunately, after he'd been denied his teaching certificate & forced to leave. I recall that my old principal, Mr White, would go into an apoplectic fury if Harris' name was even mentioned.
This is the reason that Harris wanted to stick it to the teachers so bad -- they wouldn't let him into their little club. To give Harris credit -- at least he didn't call them "terrorists".
A bizarre fact which I discovered recently -- the father of one of my childhood friends (also a high school teacher) was the president of the local Progressive Conservative riding, though very much a Red Tory (for you Americans, think Lincoln Chafee). It was he who originally suggested to Harris that he go into politics, thinking that he would certainly lose & thus be less dangerous to society than we was as a teacher. I'm sure he has a hard time sleeping at night...
Chris Moorehead |
05.02.04 - 9:18 am | #
I even attended the school at which Harris allegedly "taught" (took up space between 9am & 3pm is more like it) -- fortunately, after he'd been denied his teaching certificate & forced to leave. I recall that my old principal, Mr White, would go into an apoplectic fury if Harris' name was even mentioned.
Wait a sec--Harris was denied his cert??? Wasn't this one of the guys who wanted to implement even more stringent teacher testing while wiping out the Teachers' College?
To give Harris credit -- at least he didn't call them "terrorists".
The word just wasn't in vogue at the time.
I actually feel sorry for that Red Tory you knew. To think, he tried to do a good thing for the future. The road to hell...
What a small, petty little man Harris ultimately was. I think he'll eventually get exposed over whatever involvement his office had in Ipperwash.
Just watching Fox News (the folks got home from vacation and turned it on this morning). I've learned that John Kerry's medals are worth more time than Bush's fascinating lack of service records, and that individual anger at torture exposed by CBS is the fault of Al Jazeera.
I think I need a drink. A big one.
Mark Bialkowski |
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05.02.04 - 11:34 am | #
"Rightwingers are very upset about Canada on a number of issues largely because Canadians, when you get right down to it, are just WAY too much like us."
WHAT AN INSULT!
As a Canadian from Toronto, I can unequivocally tell you that Canadians are most certainly NOT like Americans. In fact, we define ourselves by just how much we are UNlike Americans.
PROUD TO BE A CANADIAN |
05.02.04 - 12:16 pm | #
Canadians are, however, much more like Americans than, say, the Dutch are like Americans -- we at least speak the same language (sort of), drive the same automobiles, etc. It's much harder for an American to dismiss a Canadian as a "foreigner" (even though that's exactly what we are) than a European.
I lived in North Carolina from 1999 to 2002, & it was always a disorienting experience, because NC was just enough like Canada for me to forget that I was in the USA -- at least while Clinton was president, anyway. If you look at the population of a small, politically moderate state like Delaware as your comparator, Canadians are very similar.
This is what gets the looney right frothing about Canada -- we're enough alike to be the proof that their unbridled capitalist, bible-thumping, snake oil is an utter lie. There is another way, & it works (generally) very well.
Chris Moorehead |
05.02.04 - 3:36 pm | #
Does Stephen Harper, the Conservative candidate for Prime Minister of Canada, wear a hairpiece or not?
If he does, and if someone pulled it off during a Photo Op on TV, would he ever become PM?
There seems to be a debate going on all over Montreal. Will we ever know?
david mitchell |
06.03.04 - 1:08 am | #