I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
addressing the root causes of terrorism
I'm sure when he says "root causes" he means "the existence of heathen Muslims who hate our freedom and only love to kill Christians and Jews".
I love it when freepi brains explode. It's been happening a lot lately.
Happy days.
He even used that dreaded phrase "root causes" just to explode the brains of the freepi.
Freepers have brains?
military action will often breed more terrorists and more resentment of the United States.
You'd be amazed how many people are completely incapable of understanding this.
Maybe the words will make sense to some people now that they've been spoken by a Republican.
Freepers and neocons do not want to deal with the "root causes" as they would have to look at the I/P situation through a realistic prism.
wow, thoughtful, nuanced and salient. the rethugs will immediately brand him a commie for that alone.
Lugar is a start, but he's just a quieter version of McCain. An old fashioned kind of Republican that liked his budget balanced before tax cuts and international alliances.
However, the Bush Administration has given us a gift that democrats can use to get "W" sent home.
I said it in another comment thread but IMO the absolute BEST thing about Chalabi apparently using the Bush Administration to do Iran's bidding politically for Democrats.
Unlike Abu Ghraib, there's no downside for hitting Bush on this and hitting him hard.
This is one for the Democratic Leadership to take off after "W" tomorrow over his "W"incompetence.
Take the gloves off. I have a feeling that folks like Lugar and McCain will not stand for defending Bush against charges that are either treason or betrayal via stupidity.
ALong with the Palme d'Or to MM and the word that the Bushies did mean to exclude Iraqui prisoners from the Geneva rules, all I hear today is
Le dreep,
dreep,
dreep....
Verrrry loudly
Well freepi dont have brains so much as as nerve ganglions, but we get the idea.
Time to change that channel. November can't come soon enough, it seems...
Lugar to Freepi:
"Your Head A-Splode!"
The fiasco and tragedy and shame of the Bush WH has made me realize that this country needs not only good Democrats, but good Republicans, like Lugar, McCain, Warner, and Grassley.
We are all poorer if the Republicans cannot behave respectably and responsibly. We need an opposition with integrity and intelligence, even if we disagree on point after point of ideology, and in our visions of where America should be headed.
attaturk -- Hmmmmm. I've already read somewhere (sorry, no link but probably items linked to by Josh Marshall)that connections to Chalabi originated in -- wait for it -- the Clinton administration. Seems to me the spinners are already pulling the string . . .
Freeper heads don't explode, they implode from the vacuum. Shees, where have y'all been?
Of course those root causes are Islam and the Arab culture.
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The freepers/neocons are beyond grasping the link between military action and root causes. The neocons think, as good chickenhawks, that since a good show of military force would deter them it would deter anyone else. The freepers just think it's really cool that we kicked ass, or appear to kick ass, and that alone makes them feel safer so for all practical purposes they are safer. And anyone who doesn’t think that way obviously hates America.
Hey, Sully Watch, It's been a good few days for you and your blog what with Sully being especially stupid lately.
You really must do something with Sully's description of his evening out with Hitchens.
JS: Welcome back to "Scarborough Country." My guest tonight is Ann Coulter, one of the greatest Americans of her generation and certainly no traitor.
AC: Back at you, Joe.
JS: Ann, recently Senator Dick Lugar made these comments during a speech at some Commie school in Taxachusetts (text of Lugar's speech on the screen). Ann, my question to you is a simple one: are these comments treasonous?
AC: Oh, definitely. Definitely treasonous. Giving aid and comfort to the enemy (snorts disdainfully). Totally treasonous. Lock him up before he can harm the country.
JS: (chuckling) We're running out of room at the prison, Ann. I mean, all these traitors--
AC: (interrupting) We can build more prisons. But you're right, Joe, we need to start hanging some of these people.
JS: (nods thoughtfully) By the way, are you wearing a bra tonight?
The freepers/neocons are beyond grasping the link between military action and root causes. The neocons think, as good chickenhawks, that since a good show of military force would deter them it would deter anyone else.
Correction, a good show of force from the air. If you start talking about troop levels or a draft they start getting testy.
Chunky,
I'd suggest Coulter give offending traitors the worst possible of all punishments, a night of bad lovin' with and her adams apple.
Then they would day days later from her virulent "crabs of death".
"Crabs of Death"--I love it! I think could be next summer's blockbuster "horror pic"! Let's run it up the flagpole and see who salutes!
Taking a look over at freeperville (ack - I need a shower) they consider Powell, Lugar, McCain, et al 'Republicans In Name Only' (RINO). Today they were even going off on Bremer. Some were even saying that he is going to join the democrats?!?
Now, of course the ones they love are Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Gingrich (ack!) and Delay (double ack!!).
JS: You look so hot in an Eva Braun kind of way, Ann. I want to murder you in a fit of passion like I did to my intern.
Some were even saying that he is going to join the democrats?!?
Well, more power to the Dems' elbow if they do?
OK, just saw on Fox News that Bush had a nasty spill while on a "seventeen-mile mountain-bike ride" on his Crawdad ranch (I guess the "seventeen-mile" detail was to impress everybody with Bush's macho endurance).
Lame pity ploy?
Or did Chimpy finally fall "off the wagon" and get so drunk he couldn't stay on his bike?
I think he's cracking . . .
You mean someone noticed that Bush is as good with preventing terror as he is at stimulating the economy? Amazing.
The incompetence of the current administration is without limits.
Scorpio
Eccentricity
knuckledraggers i can see turning:
Lamar Alexander (independent-minded, but hamstrung by how junior he is)
George Allen (knuckledragger, but hehas the institutional CIA and military voters to worry about)
Lindsay Graham (a former JAG, and has really has a developed a righteous indignation over the torture scandal)
Orrin Hatch (likes to see himself as the senior statesman type)
Trent Lott (HATES the Bushies with a passion, and probably can't want to stick it to them, once it's politically palatable to do so)
Don Nickles (retiring, doesn't care so much anymore
Pat Roberts (likes to see himself as a senior statesman)
Richard Shelby (Although he's very right-wing, he's never been a knee-jerk partisan, and will speak his mind)
But if you're imagining Inhofe or Sessions jumping ship, forget it.
By the way, the biggest knuckledragger of all, and the single Senator LEAST likely to jump ship, is our old buddy Zell Miller.
OT: Fox News is reporting that Bush took a spill on his mountain bike--his what?--while on his ranch in Crawford, Texas. Minor abrasions, maybe some facial bruises, they say. He's may need some major makeup work before addressing the nation on Iraq next week.
To recap: He nearly chokes on a pretzel. He falls off while dismounting a Segway. And now he's taken a fall from a mountain bike.
Very accident-prone, our prez.
The GOP can no longer ignore the throbbing abscess of its own executive branch. (Merriam-Webster: Etymology: Latin abscessus, literally, act of going away, from abscedere to go away, from abs-, ab- + cedere to go: a localized collection of pus surrounded by inflamed tissue.) All drills on deck for the full root canal.
Richard who?
Where's he from?
A Republican?
W fell off his bike.
attaturk -- Hmmmmm. I've already read somewhere (sorry, no link but probably items linked to by Josh Marshall)that connections to Chalabi originated in -- wait for it -- the Clinton administration. Seems to me the spinners are already pulling the string . . .
yea, but the clintonintes didn't get punked like childish frat boys out on a sat. nite prank. and the bushies did. what dorks.
on another note, their juvenile childishness has untold costs, that the american nation will be paying for many years to come now.
You may want knuckledraggers, but don't expect it.
This is the beginning of major fractioning in the GOP. The first salvos in a war going on for "the soul of the Republican party" as the old guard attempts to reassert power over the radicals who have hijacked their party.
"The fiasco and tragedy and shame of the Bush WH has made me realize that this country needs not only good Democrats, but good Republicans, like Lugar, McCain, Warner, and Grassley."
I concur. It's not enough to have Air America, or the other liberal/progressive media (and yes, even blogs like this one) going "Republicans, bad, bad; Democrats, good, good".
There are good people on both sides of the political fence. People who want a country that's free, safe, and hopeful about the future.
Often, there is so much rhetoric and ideological rancor that this is often obscured. Not every Republican is a freeper. And not every democrat is rational, thoughful, and nuanced.
Lugar's speech at Tufts clearly shows that there are Republicans who are rightfully concerned at where Bush and the neo-cons have taken us as a nation.
My hope is that a future administration might be able to build some bi-partisan consensus around things like the environment, workers rights and living wages, respect and dignity towards people of all races and sexual orientations to name but a few.
Granted, I may be delusional and maybe this is too utopian to even entertain.
I guess one can hope that maybe, just maybe, Iraq and the blatant lies and hubris of this current administration might be the wake up call that America needs to once more, be a country that gets back to cultivating a democratic vision, not the current plutocratic government that's been foisted on us.
Bush took a spill on his mountain bike
I guess that'll really delay "Operation Walk & Chew Gum".
there are very few good republicans, and they should switch. jeffers did.
Jeffords
I guess that'll really delay "Operation Walk & Chew Gum".
No, but it will work fine for Operation Hide Epilepsy.
I guess if freeper brains are exploding then there are going to be a lot of people walking around without their asses, since that is where most freepers' brains are located.
freeper brains are exploding
You cannot have an explosion in a vacuum.
"OK, just saw on Fox News that Bush had a nasty spill while on a "seventeen-mile mountain-bike ride" on his Crawdad ranch (I guess the "seventeen-mile" detail was to impress everybody with Bush's macho endurance)."
Broke the fall with his head tho, no damage done -)
this is OT then again it's about what a horrible president bush is.
some authors write better when they are pissed david corn is a little pissed But, no doubt, the situation in Iraq will have changed so much that whatever Kerry has to offer today could well be irrelevant by then. For now, it is Bush the Infallible who is stuck with the mess in Iraq, and the nation is stuck with him.
Monkey - Also works for Operation Off the Wagon - especially if he wasn't really on a bike at all.
Frankly, the secret drunks I've know have revealed themselves via their bruises and scratches and broken noses from falling.
Not bad for a Rethug. Seriously though, how do guys like this actually stand behind Bush? Based on his statement, he sounds like a straight Kerry supporter, but in the end, party politics trumps policy.
attaturk -- Hmmmmm. I've already read somewhere (sorry, no link but probably items linked to by Josh Marshall)that connections to Chalabi originated in -- wait for it -- the Clinton administration.
Pssst. Clinton isn't President anymore and wasn't in March 2003.
that dreaded phrase "root causes"
You mean freepi are allergic to potatoes? 
(Come to think of it, who was the pol who couldn't even spell 'potato'?)
Jeffords, well you know that old guy from vermont. i think some of these senators should think about retiring. they can't all be as quick as they once were. and more than a few, show obvious signs of senility.
35 to get in, out at 70.
Someone asked so,: Richard Lugar is the senior senator from Indiana and chair of the Foreign Relations Committee and is highly regarded as a foreign he has bee quietly, too quietly in my opinion, trying to nudge Bush on to a saner path. But as you all know, the Bushies have been totally ignoring the saner Republican voices from the get go.
FranklyO is right, this country very much needs the Adults in the Republican party, like Lugar and McCain, to take back their party.
35 to get in, out at 70.
Normally I disagree with Freeper trolls but this would have saved us a whole lot of grief had it been applied to Reagan in 1980.
BTW, I realize Freepers don't read the Constitution but you can be a Senator at age 30.
Just thought you'd like to know.
(Sniffing) Is that "toasted troll" I smell?
Elegantly done, SWR
SWR - I consider Reagan largely responsible for where we are now. He's the one who de-regulated everything in sight. Sorry bastard.
Uh oh!
This from Shrub's Thursday pep talk with the GOP congresscritters:
``He talked about 'time to take the training wheels off,''' said Rep. Deborah Pryce, R-Ohio. ``The Iraqi people have been in training, and now it's time for them to take the bike and go forward.''
I hear snickers. Many snickers on the way.
We have engaged in self-flagellation over the September 11 tragedy rather than executing affirmative global strategies aimed at addressing the root causes of terrorism.
<sarcasm>
But this administration is addressing the root causes of terrorism. Bush immediately saw that the terrorists hate our freedoms and set out to remove as many of our freedoms as possible using Patriot I and II and any other means that came to hand (a minor setback in Miami the other day gave an edge to the terrorists). When all our fredoms are gone then the terrorists won't hate us any more. Surely everyone can see that.
</sarcasm>
It's too bad that he didn't decide that the terrorists hate our smug arrogance and hypocrisy. Those are things that we could afford to do without.
``The Iraqi people have been in training, and now it's time for them to take the bike and go forward.''
Hope they can ride a bike better than W.
The whole (totally insipid and insulting) training wheels-metaphor Friday and then this bike accident today . . . sometimes I think, maybe there is a God.
I hope the Onion is all over this.
Many thanks -- frankly0! Good thoughts.
Didn't Jena graduate from college today? (hands above your waist Ricky Vandal!)
So WTF is little Georgie doing on a bike ride.
SWR - I consider Reagan largely responsible for where we are now. He's the one who de-regulated everything in sight. Sorry bastard.
Ever read that passage at the end of "The Inferno" where Dante runs into a soul whose body is still alive?
For with the vilest spirit of Romagna
I found of you one such, who for his deeds
His soul already in Cocytus bathes,
And still above in body seems alive!
Georgie didn't want his security detail to "inconvenience" the other parents by showing up -- at least that's the story. Of course, that didn't stop him from inconveniencing other parents by giving two speeches at graduations in the last week.
Didn't Jena graduate from college today?
And Bush couldn't even go to the graduation because he's too chicken shit to speak at a real university.
Only tiny little Xtian colleges for him.
Part of leadership means confronting your critics. Just another area where Bush fails.
Exactly where does 'self-flagellation' come into the question?
It seems to me this could only apply to those who chose to attach blame wholly to muslims, arabs, and political opponents here at home as part of a fascist agenda.
That the flagellation was from anti-war moderates and liberals who wanted us to employ introspection rather than extrospection shows that the only act of flagellation was of liberals against the Bush administration and their supporters.
But to suggest that this was something maintained by the country as a whole is purely conjecture.
It was liberals and moderates who felt we should not rest on attrition before first drawing logical conclusions about the motives for 9/11. it was liberals and moderates who suggested we resist our anti-christian desires for revenge.
It was liberals and moderates who pointed out that unless we go to the root of the abstract and concrete reasons for 9/11 we will be carrying out a one-sided war abroad, while not implementing the required changes at home.
It was liberals and moderates who recognized that resistance on the part of the republican party and Bush administration towards anything that might shed light on the causes hinted at either exploitation or the possible act of deception.
So there was no self-flagellation on the part of conservatives and allies of the administration. That Lugar would suggest this now seems more like a person finally realizing they have dipped into the exploitation well too long, and are now trying to switch sides without appearing as if they have switche sides.
So fuck you Lugar! And the elephant you rode in on!
MYOB'
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SWR - That passage from Dante is breathtaking - he was almost a prophet. Thanks very much for sharing.
The photographers will have some fun with Pancake Night on Monday.
TheaLogie - Dan Quayle was the vegetable-challenged speller, and yep, it was pommes de terre that did him in.
That Lugar would suggest this now seems more like a person finally realizing they have dipped into the exploitation well too long, and are now trying to switch sides without appearing as if they have switche sides.
Lugar has been relativley sane throughout the past 3 years. He was one of the few who cautioned against going into Iraq, and also that if we do it should be through the UN.
Jena did not go to her graduation today, nor was her name read.
That passage from Dante is breathtaking
The Longfellow Translation sucks ass. Here's a text version:
And one of the wretches of the cold crust cried out to us, "O souls so cruel that the last station is given to you, lift from my eyes the hard veils, so that I may vent the grief that swells my heart, a little ere the weeping re-congeal!" Wherefore I to him, "If thou wilt that I relieve thee, tell me who thou art, and if I rid thee not, may it be mine to go to the bottom of the ice." He replied then, "I am friar Alberigo;[1] I am he of the fruits of the bad garden, and here I receive a date for a fig." [2] "Oh!" said I to him; "art thou now already dead?" And he to me, "How it may go with my body in the world above I bear no knowledge. Such vantage hath this Ptolomaea[3] that oftentime the soul falls hither ere Atropos hath given motion to it.[4] And that thou may the more willingly scrape the glassy tears from my face, know that soon as the soul betrays, as I did, its body is taken from it by a demon, who thereafter governs it until its time be all revolved. The soul falls headlong into this cistern, and perchance the body of the shade that here behind me winters still appears above; thou oughtest to know him if thou comest down but now. He is Ser Branca d' Oria,[5] and many years have passed since he was thus shut up." "I think," said I to him, "that thou deceivest me, for Branca d' Oria is not yet dead, and he eats, and drinks, and sleeps, and puts on clothes." "In the ditch of the Malebranche above," he said, "there where the tenacious pitch is boiling, Michel Zanche had not yet arrived when this one left in his own stead a devil in his body, and in that of one of his near kin, who committed the treachery together with him. But now stretch out hither thy hand; open my eyes for me." And I opened them not for him, and to be rude to him was courtesy.
Well, that translation sucks ass too. John Ciardi's is the best:
"I am Friar Alberigo," he answered therefore,
"the same who call for the fruits from the bad garden.
Here I am given dates for figs full store."
"What! Are you dead already?" I said to him.
And he then: "How my body stands in the world
I do not know. So privileged is this rim
of Ptolomea, that often souls fall to it
before dark Atropos has cut their thread.
And that you may more willingly free my spirit
of this glaze of frozen tears that shrouds my face,
I will tell you this: when a soul betrays as I did,
it falls from flesh, and a demon takes its place,
ruling the body till its time is spent.
The ruined soul rains down into this cistern.
So, I believe, there is still evident
in the world above, all that is fair and mortal
of this black shade who winters here behind me.
If you have only recently crossed the portal
from that sweet world, you surely must have known
his body: Branca d'Oria is its name,
and many years have passed since he rained down."
"I think you are trying to take me in," I said,
"Ser Branca D'Oria is a living man;
he eats, he drinks he fills his clothes and his bed."
"Michel Zanche had not yet reached the ditch
of the Black Talons," the frozen wraith replied,
"there where the sinners thicken in hot pitch,
when this one left his body to a devil,
as did his nephew and second in treachery,
and plumbed like lead through space to this dead level.
But now reach out your hand, and let me cry."
And I did not keep the promise I had made,
for to be rude to him was courtesy.
Ah, men of Genoa! souls of little worth,
corrupted from all custom of righteousness,
why have you not been driven from the earth?
For there beside the blackest soul of all
Romagna's evil plain, lies one of yours
bathing his filthy soul in the eternal
glacier of Cocytus for his foul crime,
while he seems yet alive in world and time!
MYOB - A fine rant, indeed.
I thought he was referring to the 9/11 Commission, but I think you may be right about what he was saying. Either he's trying to put himself on the side of the angels by letting us know that he flagellated himself, too, or he's just making it up that anyone in the Repug party flagellated him or herself over the war.
Everyone in the universe knows that Bush certainly didn't flagellate himself over the war. He was having the time of his life when he decided to have an end to the feud between Saddam and his family over the oil beneath Iraq's sands. He whooped it up like never before or since.
You know where his presidency went off the tracks? I can tell you with absolute certainty that it was when he let Rove, or Rove let him, put him into that flightsuit and land on the Lincoln. I knew when I heard about it that he had just hit the apex of his presidency and it was going to be downhill from there.
And he hasn't bottomed out yet, either. But he will.
Gotta jump - going out. Have a nice Sat. night.
Actually Georgie is only giving graduation speeches in battleground states. His kid's states aren't in play so they don't count. Also didn't UT deny him admission to grad school?
Actually Georgie is only giving graduation speeches in battleground states.
Has he given any speach at any major university? Or is he only speaking at small Christian colleges.
How about U Penn or Ohio State?
maybe 30 is too young, but 70 is often too old, reagan was a good example. i'm just saying sometimes it's time to give up the glory and retire. but i guess the power tastes too good.
and SWR, you might lighten up on the satanic poetry, you seem a little wound up.
and SWR, you might lighten up on the satanic poetry
That's Dante you goon.
maybe 30 is too young
BTW. That Thomas Jefferson guy:
As the "silent member" of the Congress, Jefferson, at 33, drafted the Declaration of Independence.
Thank God there was no age 35 limit then.
maybe 30 is too young, but 70 is often too old, reagan was a good example. i'm just saying sometimes it's time to give up the glory and retire. but i guess the power tastes too good.
Sen. Robert C. Byrd is 87 and still has more smarts than the entire Republican side of the Senate put together.
WAY down on the thread i comment: i like freepi better than freeper. i know you were all wondering...
70 is often too old, reagan was a good example
Wasn't Adenauer like 80 when he become Chanceller of Germany?
The Iraqi people have been in training, and now it's time for them to take the bike and go forward.''
Yes, let us presume to lecture a 30,000-year-old civilization on their "training" in self-governance.
Can we please hook these assholes up to that thing in a Clockwork Orange and play them the History Channel 24-7? I mean, I'd rather they read Herodotus, but I'm trying to be realistic.
A.
maybe trent twatt can make the freepi heads explode ala slim whitman's yodel.
or someone as backward asTwatt.
"root causes"... LOL surely Freeper heads exploded. Goddess forbid they should remember what Henry David Thoreau said once upon a time:
"There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root."
Evil has no roots. Only shrill, Michael Moore-like lunatics actually believe ("believe" because they cannot possibly "know") that there are roots. Hey, look! Is that Michael Jackson?
I would be in favor of 'performance-based' tests every year above the age of 80.
Do EEG, PET scans, etc.
They can't serve if they have holes, cognative and otherwise in there cerebrum
Sorry, Ricky Vandal.
and SWR, you might lighten up on the satanic poetry
That's Dante you goon.
and my characterization is wrong, because?
it's a play, and it's italian? you are suffering on some ring of hell, and i am not attentive enuf to the gross injustice?
my fav. satanic poet is rimbaud. these days i just watch the bush administration imploding.
as for ages, in the senate, i have no deep seated convictions on it. just seems some of them hang around longer than is healthy.
it is funny to hear the lame jokes about 'freepers' being empty-headed because their ideas are soo out of whack with any sentient thought...
BUT
THEY DONT CARE
is football on TV?
is there a new violent movie starting today?
does walmart have a sale?
this is what bugs murcans....the culture of nothingness!
it is nothingness when military and bombs are more popular than books
it is nothingness when art is construed as a useless venture
it is nothingness when the average cannot comprehend the basic
it is nothing when caring is a historical thought
so those of you who think that kerry is the silver bullet....I laugh in your general direction! Maybe we ought to elect king shrub again to really phuck up amurca, so that there will be no doubt when there are riots in the streets - that amerca is broken and must be fixed!
this country needs not only good Democrats, but good Republicans
seriously - a good Rethug? C'mon folks. A Rethug who could support this Prez and this Congress can *not*, by any objective definition, be called 'good'.
Re: Lugar vs. McCain - from what I can tell, completely different political animals. McCain leans toward the neo-con end of things, but he is more thoughtful and pragmatic and not so influence by Plato (via Strauss) and U. Chicago economic mental masturbation as the BushCO house-slave neo-cons are. I guess McCain is a Teddy Roosevelt type in terms of foreign policy (even if his domestic ideology is way right of progressive Teddy). Lugar, OTOH, is an old-fashioned conservative of one of the sorts you just don't see much anymore. I generally have found his views quite disagreeable, but he too is generally a decent person and can/will be quite an ally when it comes to injecting some sense into the political discourse.
Re: "root causes" - why do freepers and their ilk treat mention of root causes as hippy-dippy touchy-feely liberalism? Focusing on root causes is good-old fashioned conservativism! After all, it is such a fuddy-duddy idea as to be an aphorism ("an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure"). And it is not touchy-feely at all, but actually rather hard nose. Didn't Sun-tzu say something about knowing your enemy? If you do not understand your enemy in as basic of an area as motivation, how will you win a war?
SWR on "shows of force from the air" - good point. And it's bad strategy to boot. Not that I, as someone not in the military, am going to be Mr. Chickenhawk, but fighting from the air hardly shows superior strength. It just shows that you are a coward hiding behind superior technology; in order to show bravery, you must fight your enemy with the same technological sophistication as your enemy uses ... most brave is face-to-face combat. This is part of Israel's problem: whenever they are attacked, they strike back at some high valued target from the air. All this does is prove that the Israelis are vengeful cowards. Now, if the Israelis would capture some of these people alive and bring them to trial (which is more consistent with Jewish laws, anyway - < sarcasm > but God forbid Israel should actually make an attempt to follow Jewish teachings < / sarcasm >) - that would show Palestinian terrorists that the Israelis are brave and deserve some respect.
It all goes back to "know your enemy" doesn't it?
"... the Nunn-Lugar program has deactivated 5,990 nuclear warheads. It has destroyed 479 ballistic missiles, 435 ballistic missile silos, 97 bombers, 336 submarine-launched missiles, 396 submarine missile launchers, and 24 strategic missile submarines. It has sealed 194 nuclear test tunnels."
More here. And here. And here.
This speech illustrates just one of the many reasons that Lugar is the highest-ranking Republican I have ever voted for (yup, I live in the Hoosier state).
Doug
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