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Thanks Thers!
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Figures. I'd blogwhore and it's a new thread.
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Rockin Out Tonight
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Arachnid!
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sinfonian
glad you made it to J/J
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Are we there yet?
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thought of Lucy, too, ThinlyVeiled
Mina/Whilhelmina?
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Are we there yet?
Tlazolteotl
it's just around the bend
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I click so fast, yet it never seems to make a difference !!!!!!!!
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From previous thread:
Turing acknowledged a sexual relationship with Murray, and they were charged with gross indecency under Section 11 of the Criminal Law Amendment Act of 1885. Turing was unrepentant and was convicted. He was given the choice between imprisonment and probation, conditional on him undergoing hormonal treatment designed to reduce libido. In order to avoid going to jail, he accepted the oestrogen hormone injections, which lasted for a year, with side effects including gynecomastia (breast enlargement). His conviction led to a removal of his security clearance and prevented him from continuing consultancy for GCHQ on cryptographic matters. On 8 June 1954, his cleaner found his lifeless body.
I had never known these tragic details of Turing's life, but always admired the facts I had learned about his brilliance in the early development of computers and his work in cryptography. It would seem that that this story, like so many others, bears out the fact that government is visciously pathological by nature, at least in many if not most of its workings. The entire gays in the military thing reeks of the same schizoid paranoiac mass-hysterical mentality. Statistically, several of the people who participated in Turings despicable treatment must themselves have been gay. In light of stories such as these, Giuliani's record of maniacally despotic and dictatorial sociopathic behaviour, combined with his penchant for cross-dressing, does not exactly indicate the mental fitness Americans have a right to expect in any President, and perhaps especially if our government is by nature itself already such a dysfunctional creature to begin with.
Just sayin.
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I'll just bring it up from downstairs before I go:
I am pleased to present, in its final final form, the Fully Illustrated Pelosi Liveblogging Extravaganza, live from America's Glans™. Even includes a (shitty) picture of yours truly.
Hope you enjoy the pics and the narrative.
And with that, I have a 45-minute or so drive home. I'll see you from there. Bye for now! (This time I mean it!)
P.S. cosmic tumbler, Janet Reno is a Miamian. She ran for governor here in 2002.
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I like warm dead ham, myself.
But, yuck.
MP |
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thanks, ::matthew.
Going home now ...
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Thanks, Thers! The load time was getting a bit much.
Good evening all.
Life is crazed for me right now. Please say something silly to knock some sense into me.
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Mmmmmmm, ham!
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Heather is still a great girly-girl name. I have adored every Heather I've ever met.
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Please say something silly to knock some sense into me.
Uncle Smokes
well, not silly, but I had a few flitter-mice in my backyard tonight, and they were so adorable...
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Honey baked ham--cold or warm--is not bad.
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thers over my hammy!
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Mina's good, but I have a friend name Mina. Rumors might get started if people start hearing things like "Mina hacked up another hairball," or "Mina scratched the shit out of me yesterday." 
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P.S. cosmic tumbler, Janet Reno is a Miamian. She ran for governor here in 2002.
Sinfonian, Nancy Pelosi's BFF
Of course.
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Please say something silly to knock some sense into me.
Would "George W Bush has been president for seven years" help?
You have to admit, it's pretty silly.
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=^=: that anyone takes Giuliani's candidacy seriously baffles me. His suggestion that he stay on in office without standing for reelection should disqualify him from the presidency all by itself...
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Thers, how many papers did you have to read? Hope you are okay.
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Heather is still a great girly-girl name. I have adored every Heather I've ever met.
catalexis (ungrateful peasent)
I'm actually in the market for a girls name...still have a few months to decide
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Just under the deadline for Friday cat blogging, another spinoza cat sound asleep:
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Life is crazed for me right now. Please say something silly to knock some sense into me.
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Mother Teresa Cinnamon Roll
http://www.michaelmain.com/uploa...nbun-
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"Mina likes to sit on my face when I'm laying in bed."
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Please say something silly to knock some sense into me.
Uncle Smokes
Tomorrow will bring you huge bags of joyfulness.
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Zero comments my ass!
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Mina's good, but I have a friend name Mina. Rumors might get started if people start hearing things like "Mina hacked up another hairball," or "Mina scratched the shit out of me yesterday."
ThinlyVeiled, Visitor 109
Somewhat oblique, but how about Carmilla?
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Uncle Smokes, did you see Watertiger's video from the last thread? That ought to cheer you up. Silly doesn't even begin...
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I'm actually in the market for a girls name...still have a few months to decide
::matthew
Try Zamira.
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Heather is still a great girly-girl name. I have adored every Heather I've ever met.
Hitler referred to his penis as "Heather".
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How about Sophie, or Sophia for a girl's name?
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Thers, how many papers did you have to read? Hope you are okay.
'Bout a thousand.
I'm grand. It was a good experience. It's good meeting lots of my peers in the profession.
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"Mina likes to sit on my face when I'm laying in bed."

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Laura Bush caves into religious extremists and wears veil.
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spinoza | 06.10.07 - 12:04 am
That looks a whole lot like Sam.
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I learned a new word from a sweet old German lady -- she said when she was a little kid she had fine flyaway white-blond hair and her dad nicknamed her after a dandelion gone to seed -- a pooftebloomen!
Was that silly enough, Uncle Smokes?
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"Just under the deadline for Friday cat blogging, another spinoza cat sound asleep:"
--spinoza
Buzzzzzz...out of focus. Try again.
(see comment on dead thread if you missed it.)
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Try Zamira.
cosmic tumbler
ok, I tried that...what else you got?
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Tomorrow will bring you huge bags of joyfulness.
And they'll be those kind with the press-sealed ridges, like on snack bags, that when you try to open them tear along the main face and spill so you get the stuff everywhere. All six of them will do that. You won't get it out of the rug for weeks.
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Life is crazed for me right now. Please say something silly to knock some sense into me.
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The room was humming harder
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Hey, you guys - did you hear that a filly won the Belmont Stakes today? How about that?
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I'm actually in the market for a girls name...still have a few months to decide
::matthew
Give her a head start on scaring the fundies... Astarte
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Violet is a good name for a girl, not so much for a guy.
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Heather is still a great girly-girl name. I have adored every Heather I've ever met
Guided By Voices has a song "Chasing Heather Crazy"--pretty good.
We named our daughter Roisin. "Ro-sheen." "Little Rose" in Irish.
She is a terribly evil but adorable little imp.
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spinoza, I did NOT need to know that! 
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I'm actually in the market for a girls name
The old man always says that if we had ever had a daughter, he would have liked to call her Serafina.
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"Carmilla" is the female vampire in the story of the same name by le Fanu.
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Try Zamira.
cosmic tumbler
ok, I tried that...what else you got?
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Sorry. It's my daughter's name.
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John Lennon said that tune was his favorite from the 60s.
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I learned a new word from a sweet old German lady -- she said when she was a little kid she had fine flyaway white-blond hair and her dad nicknamed her after a dandelion gone to seed -- a pooftebloomen!
I thought a pooftebloomen was an effeminate man who studied Joyce's Ulysses.
/runs out of romm chortling
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Mother Teresa Cinnamon Roll
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Gilly Gonzylon

Thanks! Though I think it looks more like the witch from Snow White and the Seven Dwarves.
(Look out, Mr. Turing!)
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Sorry. It's my daughter's name.
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LOL. Sorry. Deadpan delivery.
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Buzzzzzz...out of focus. Try again.
That's artsy fartsy stuff, sort of lik smearing vaseline on the lens.
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Are you calling Thers a Poofta, Spinoza?
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My mother was scheduled to have a C-section on Feb. 14. My father declared that, male or female, I would be called Valentine. Dad went out of town on business. Mom rescheduled for Feb. 10. I am called Karen.
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Better that than pulling my butt plug from Tucker's cold, dead ass.
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Oh, man, freakin' Laura wearing a freakin' black mantilla to the Vatican. Good God almighty. No one should wear a mantilla but the queen of Spain, and then only if she's over 80. That mantilla was a shout-out to the insane right wing of American Catholic life, which has entirely too much influence in Washington. She could have -- and should have -- worn a nice straw hat, after all, it's freakin' Rome on a sunny summer day. A freakin' black mantilla . . .
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I'll say this right now. They've perfected the fucking watermelon.
MP |
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maybe this wil make Uncle Smokes smile
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Are you calling Thers a Poofta, Spinoza?
Giga poofta. It's amazing he can be such a poofta and have +500 spawn.Leave it to the Irish.
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The old man always says that if we had ever had a daughter, he would have liked to call her Serafina.
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After the witch?
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I am called Karen.
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I am "Maize". You may know me as "Corn"
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You won't get it out of the rug for weeks.
catalexis (ungrateful peasent)
"There is no need to do any housework at all. After the first four years the dirt doesn't get any worse."
-- Quentin Crisp
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Mom rescheduled for Feb. 10. I am called Karen.
Your mom sounds like a very sensible woman.
By the way, Saturday was my parents' 45th wedding anniversary.
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After the first four years the dirt doesn't get any worse."
That's not true
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I'll say this right now. They've perfected the fucking watermelon.
I miss the seeds. One of the best things about eating watermelon as a kid was spitting the seeds at my brothers.
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I'll say this right now. They've perfected the fucking watermelon.
MP
they need to get to work on the fucking cantaloupe
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And now that they have little ones a bit smaller than a soccer ball -- just the thing for a household of 2!
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LOL, Spinoza.
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they need to get to work on the fucking cantaloupe
Just use some lipstick to put some lips on it.
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there's some major eatage in Arachnid... jes SAYIN
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Serafina, after the witch, yes.
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they need to get to work on the fucking cantaloupe
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The only fruit forbidden to run off and get married...consider it a blessing, you orange sphere of goodness !
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maybe this wil make Uncle Smokes smile
JR, kerosene and a match
Was that one of those feral baramin über-kangaroos? 
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She could have -- and should have -- worn a nice straw hat, after all, it's freakin' Rome on a sunny summer day. A freakin' black mantilla . . .
strawhat, Gore/Edwards
Do I detect a smattering of bias here?

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Gilly: now there was a pun entirely beneath the green fruit...
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Was that one of those feral baramin über-kangaroos?
Uncle Smokes
I think it's quite clear that it's my neighbor's poodle
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Uncle Smokes:
http://
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Gilly is on a roll.
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She could have -- and should have -- worn a nice straw hat, after all, it's freakin' Rome on a sunny summer day. A freakin' black mantilla . . .
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Chimp shoulda dressed like Huck Finn
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Please say something silly to knock some sense into me.
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Acintya bheda bheda tattva
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Was that one of those feral baramin über-kangaroos?
Uncle Smokes
I think so.
Here's another LOL-T.rex
Much cleverer than mine.
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Gilly is on a roll.
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My town's recycling center has watermelon, tomato, and datura plants growing profusely from the rows of compost.
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It has gotten to the point that I'm feeling sorry for the Laurabot 2000. Almost all of her outfits are hideous! She can't have intended to dress that way. Someone is really giving her bad advice.
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My town's recycling center has watermelon, tomato, and datura plants growing profusely from the rows of compost.
Mr French
A movie in the making.
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My town's recycling center has watermelon, tomato, and datura plants growing profusely from the rows of compost.
Mr French
The best, biggest winkles were always to be found at the outflow pipe from the reactor, too.
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My town's recycling center has watermelon, tomato, and datura plants growing profusely from the rows of compost.
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Proves digestion is a secular myth
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Uncle Smokes:
http:// www.dependablerenegade.co...otato_wave.html
ThinlyVeiled, Visitor 109

Tears in the eyes!
(Make me fries.)
Thanks.
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Mr French, you caught me. I'm a Chicago Irish lefty Catholic and it just bugs the hell out of me when someone (who isn't Catholic, btw, and clearly doesn't know crap about modern American Catholic life) parades around trying to look like a Dame of Jerusalem because someone who dreams of being a Dame of Jerusalem told her that's what you wear. She wore the same damn thing to Pope John Paul's funeral -- and looked like a damn fool then too. (Of course, I think the Knights of Columbus look pretty silly when they get themselves up in their regalia too. Loyal Order of Raccoons, anyone?)
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Tigre, goddess of earworms...
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so I just got around to watching Casino Royale tonight.
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Make me fries! I wanna do the Potato Wave!
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Don't name her anything your relatives can add an"ie" or "y" to the end of her name. Other than that, you'll be okay.
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Re: Potato Wave
These lyrics are a big improvement, as if Pearl Jam lyrics were ever supposed to make sense. I think I now understand their 'message'.
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Which Casino Royale? I assume you mean the new one? I liked it - or more to the point, I thought Daniel Craig makes a fine Bond - how about you?
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Don't name her anything your relatives can add an"ie" or "y" to the end of her name. Other than that, you'll be okay.
mer
Wait, kitten or human?
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Don't name her anything your relatives can add an"ie" or "y" to the end of her name. Other than that, you'll be okay.
You mean, like "NToddy needs thersie to hold his bacon?"
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How'd they get in there?
strawhat
Garden waste, there are a number of decorative daturas.
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so I just got around to watching Casino Royale tonight.
::matthew
Of course.
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I thought Daniel Craig makes a fine Bond - how about you?
Tlazolteotl
yup...and moreso, I liked that i wasn't all gimmicks and rocket launchers coming out of the headlights
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She wore the same damn thing to Pope John Paul's funeral -- and looked like a damn fool then too. (Of course, I think the Knights of Columbus look pretty silly when they get themselves up in their regalia too. Loyal Order of Raccoons, anyone?)
A thought just occured to me...
Is anyone aware of pictures from George and Laura's wedding? I wouldn't be surprised if she wore red.
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Is anyone aware of pictures from George and Laura's wedding? I wouldn't be surprised if she wore red.
Mr French
Odds?
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The critters in our woods eat most of the scraps I throw into the compost pile. It's pretty funny seeing what's missing the next day.
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I liked the physicality of this Bond.
Tlazolteotl |
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Here's another LOL-T.rex
Much cleverer than mine.
JR, kerosene and a match
Time for one of my favorite Dinosaur Comics.
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And her mother, getting into the spirit of the occasion, wore white lace. Or black crepe, depending on her mood.
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Am I right in reclling that red is appropriate in Chinese weddings?
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Datura plants? Aren't they poison? How'd they get in there?
Datura is a common landscaping plant, and many of the improved varieties are very pretty.
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Is anyone aware of pictures from George and Laura's wedding? I wouldn't be surprised if she wore red.
Mr French
The high consulate from Solaxiant 9 sent her to earth not knowing the standard bridal color
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Red is a great color in Chinese culture. White, not so much.
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Am I right in reclling that red is appropriate in Chinese weddings?
ProfWombat
yes
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Evening all.
Anything irksome happen while we were off dining with a certain centaur?

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Isn't white traditional for the Chinese funeral?
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Isn't white traditional for the Chinese funeral?
ThinlyVeiled,
yes
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Simels! Did you get to meet the centaur in person? Did you get to meet the centaur's kitties in person?
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simels, we're just naming cats and babies. How are you and 4LG this evening? Did you sup well?
Tlazolteotl |
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Our latest adopted kitty, Milly (I didn't name this one) says it's time for lights out.
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"There is no need to do any housework. After the first 4 years the dirt doesn't get any worse" -- Quentin Crisp
Typically funny Crisp. I had the fortune to meet Mr. Crisp on occasion at various gallery openings and suchlike events in the east village during the halcyon days just prior to its being gentrified beyond all recognition or bearability, at which point I bailed, not being able to any longer afford my bar tabs and the perogis at the Ukranian restaurant Veselka while also paying the exorbitant rent on a broomcloset which at that time I called home sweet home. Crisp was invariably witty, polite and sanguine, and obviously quite the poofster, not in the least bit abashed by it at all. He usually flaunted some chiffon sort of cravat in various tangerine or pale pinkish hues, a broad-brimmed panama, and a well-tailored darkish suit, carried a walking stick, and generally had the air of a diminutive but extremely wizened, amused, and amusing chap. Some people do leave an impression, and the few times I met him he was as decent, thoughtful, interesting and nice a person as one might ever meet in those generally but not always great days, which now of course seem like the golden years in retrospect.
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"Fight pits pigeon, hawk lovers
Specialty breed - Members of the Northwest roller club are accused of killing birds of prey, some endangered Saturday, June 09, 2007MICHAEL MILSTEIN
Showing a visitor through the Hillsboro shelters where he raises "roller" pigeons, Ivan Hanchett described how he trapped hawks so they wouldn't bother his precious flock.
He suffocated the hawks in garbage bags, he said, and put them in the trash, noting he had "never seen a hawk that could hold its breath more than three seconds."
Hanchett went on: Oregon aficionados of the roller pigeon -- a special breed flown in competitions -- commonly capture and kill hawks and falcons that attack the smaller birds. A friend in Canby captured 30 hawks in 45 days. ......
The agent described the tour in new federal court documents released Friday that allege Hanchett and other leaders of an Oregon roller pigeon club -- the Northwest Roller Jockeys -- carried out a campaign of destruction against some of the country's most prized and protected birds.
Federal officials said the number of birds of prey killed in Oregon and Washington may number near 1,000, enough to put a serious dent in species such as peregrine falcons that only recently bounced back from near extinction.
"Some of these guys allegedly used weapons and guns with silencers and shot hawks right in their backyard with houses next door," said David Patte, a spokesman for the Fish and Wildlife Service in Portland. "About 95 to 99 percent of the members freely talk about their taking and killing of hawks as a regular part of their hobby."
Unnamed pigeon enthusiasts gleefully wrote in an online forum about the shooting of peregrine falcons that the Audubon Society of Portland had rescued in 2003 from the St. Johns Bridge during construction and released at a wildlife refuge north of Vancouver.
"I laughed and laughed," one person wrote. "All the pain staking measures they took to get these birds to adolescence and than (sic) to have someone take them out was simply bliss!"
http://www.oregonlive.com/news/o...6200.xml&
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Am I right in reclling that red is appropriate in Chinese weddings?
In upstate New York weddings, they wrap themselves in bacon and recite Derrida to each other. Then the bridal pair retires to Foucault itself.
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I have no idea why I am still awake, except it's so much fun. See youinsins tomorrow. Nite.
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Anything irksome happen while we were off dining with a certain centaur?
steve simels
Did they have to pull out the tables a bit?
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In upstate New York weddings, they wrap themselves in bacon and recite Derrida to each other. Then the bridal pair retires to Foucault itself.
My favorite Frenchman is Pierre Bourdieu. Remind me to bore you to tears one day about why.
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Our latest recently adopted kitty (a stray) had seven kittens on tuesday.
On the bright side, she's a good little mommy.
Anyone want a kitten?
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"Some of these guys allegedly used weapons and guns with silencers and shot hawks right in their backyard with houses next door," said David Patte, a spokesman for the Fish and Wildlife Service in Portland. "About 95 to 99 percent of the members freely talk about their taking and killing of hawks as a regular part of their hobby."
Fuck! You know, Darwin had a great interest in raising pigeons. But this is just so wrong.
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Then the bridal pair retires to Foucault itself.
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In the Panopticon?
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"Most of the best freighter pilots can be found here. Only watch your step...this place can be a little rough."
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Simels! Did you get to meet the centaur in person? Did you get to meet the centaur's kitties in person?
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simels, we're just naming cats and babies. How are you and 4LG this evening? Did you sup well?
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We ate Indian -- very spicey. Kitties are being taken care of by people the centaur trusts back at the home.
A very nice evening...The centaur's a doll. As is the divine Brooklyn Girl.
We missed you all, obviously.

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My favorite Frenchman is Pierre Bourdieu. Remind me to bore you to tears one day about why.
social capital, right?
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In upstate New York weddings, they wrap themselves in bacon and recite Derrida to each other. Then the bridal pair retires to Foucault itself.
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That's a very lacanic description of such an elaborate ceremony.
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Mr. French, you took in a pregnant stray? You giant sweetheart!
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That's a very lacanic description of such an elaborate ceremony.
rootless2
didn't even mention the whiskey...
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I laughed and laughed," one person wrote. "All the pain staking measures they took to get these birds to adolescence and than (sic) to have someone take them out was simply bliss!"
Fuck these fucking fuckers with a red hot poker.
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That's a very lacanic description of such an elaborate ceremony.
rootless2
didn't even mention the whiskey...
Or the pork belly futures.
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Did they have to pull out the tables a bit?
Ray Harryhausen is god.
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Enable cookies? My ass!
Tlazolteotl |
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Enable cookies? My ass!
Tlazolteotl
I just got that too...hit back button and it posted.
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Cookies should be eaten, not enabled.
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Time for one of my favorite Dinosaur Comics.
Uncle Smokes
Now that's funny.
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My favorite Frenchman is Pierre Bourdieu. Remind me to bore you to tears one day about why.
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My favorite Frenchman is Nicholas Bourbaki, who showed you can get to the top in France without going to the grandes ecoles as long as you are imaginary.
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Enable cookies? My ass!
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OregonLive has is out of control. they want you to enter your info on every stinking page now not just the first time you enter their site. it really sucks.
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Simels, that's great. The Plushlife blog has been abandoned for the weekend, so it's nice to know it was for such a good reason. The centaur warned us kidden addicts there'd be no updates for a few days.
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Fuck these fucking fuckers with a red hot poker.
Abu Ghraib was not an aberration. Some people live in a culture that nourishes horrible destruction and senseless killing as a sport.
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Hanchett went on: Oregon aficionados of the roller pigeon -- a special breed flown in competitions -- commonly capture and kill hawks and falcons that attack the smaller birds. A friend in Canby captured 30 hawks in 45 days.
Isn't the roller pigeon a defective inbred mutant?
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Ray Harryhausen is god.
Richard
Even God says so. 
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"Seventeeen thousand! These guys must really be desperate, this could save my neck!"
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Damn. I think I've had too much wine to be able to wash the floors. And, if I could only find the damned USB cord, y'all would have your kittens...
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c is for cookie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B...h?
v=BovQyphS8kA
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goodnight bats
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Isn't the roller pigeon fancier a defective inbred mutant?
Mr French
Editorial correction.
JR, kerosene and a match |
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Devil Dinosaur and Moon Boy by Jack Kirby! Now that's good dinosaur comics!! So is Rich Little, though.
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Lemmy is god.
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Isn't the roller pigeon a defective inbred mutant?
It's what Darwin and his contemporaries called a sport. And by observing these mutants in artificial selection, Darwin was able to conceptualize natural selection. There are some wonderful descriptions of pigeon sports in "Origin of Species".
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Mr. French, you took in a pregnant stray? You giant sweetheart!
We didn't know at the time, not that it would have made any difference. She's a sweetheart.
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Nite, ::matthew, sleep well.
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Peregrines are amazing, regal birds. These guys shouldn't even have pigeons, they have no respect for birds, obviously.
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SEVEN CALIFORNIA ‘ROLLER PIGEON’ ENTHUSIASTS CHARGED WITH KILLING, OR HELPING TO KILL, PROTECTED HAWKS AND FALCONS
Federal authorities have charged seven Southern California men associated with "roller pigeon" clubs on charges related to the fatal beatings and shootings of federally protected raptors. Six of the defendants were arrested throughout the day yesterday as part of a nationwide investigation - Operation High Roller - that is targeting roller pigeon owners who believe that hawks and falcons, while protected under federal law, should be killed because they attack pigeons, particularly when they suffer seizures in flight and tumble uncontrollably toward the ground.
The seven cases in Southern California, along with charges filed against defendants in Oregon and Texas, are part of a 14-month investigation by special agents with the United States Fish and Wildlife Service. In California, a special agent infiltrated several roller pigeon clubs and learned about members' efforts to trap and kill raptors, specifically Cooper's hawks, red-tailed hawks and Peregrine falcons, according to court documents. Investigators estimate that leaders and members of the National Birmingham Roller Club (NBRC) and other enthusiast organizations in the Los Angeles metropolitan area are responsible for killing 1,000 to 2,000 raptors annually.
http://www.fws.gov/news/
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Lemmy is god.
JR, kerosene and a match
Snicket is divine.
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SEVEN CALIFORNIA ‘ROLLER PIGEON’ ENTHUSIASTS CHARGED WITH KILLING, OR HELPING TO KILL, PROTECTED HAWKS AND FALCONS
Federal authorities have charged seven Southern California men associated with "roller pigeon" clubs on charges related to the fatal beatings and shootings of federally protected raptors. Six of the defendants were arrested throughout the day yesterday as part of a nationwide investigation - Operation High Roller - that is targeting roller pigeon owners who believe that hawks and falcons, while protected under federal law, should be killed because they attack pigeons, particularly when they suffer seizures in flight and tumble uncontrollably toward the ground.
The seven cases in Southern California, along with charges filed against defendants in Oregon and Texas, are part of a 14-month investigation by special agents with the United States Fish and Wildlife Service. In California, a special agent infiltrated several roller pigeon clubs and learned about members' efforts to trap and kill raptors, specifically Cooper's hawks, red-tailed hawks and Peregrine falcons, according to court documents. Investigators estimate that leaders and members of the National Birmingham Roller Club (NBRC) and other enthusiast organizations in the Los Angeles metropolitan area are responsible for killing 1,000 to 2,000 raptors annually.
http://www.fws.gov/news/ NewsRele...E4A89664B1CFC29
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responsible for killing 1,000 to 2,000 raptors annually
Feed them DDT.
Tlazolteotl |
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oops! Sorry about that.
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Feed them DDT.
Tlazolteotl
Not painful enough.
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what is it with these pigeon breeders?
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Well...thanks for the smiles, folks.
I must return to the tunes.
Y'all take care of your good selves.
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they suffer seizures in flight and tumble uncontrollably toward the ground.
Defective pigeons *should* be eaten.
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I googled the same story 
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Devil Dinosaur and Moon Boy by Jack Kirby! Now that's good dinosaur comics!!
Coming in August...
http://www.amazon.com/Devil-Dino...81450538&sr=8-
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Price: $19.79
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Publisher: Marvel Comics (August 1, 2007)
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Like I say, if they had any respect for birds, they couldn't have done such a horrible thing - killing raptors for being raptors. shitheads.
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It's sad that folks take joy in killing hawks and falcons. But if I were, say, raising shih tzus, and a neighber's pit bulls were killing them, I'd probably want them dead.
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But if I were, say, raising shih tzus, and a neighber's pit bulls were killing them, I'd probably want them dead.
ProfWombat
If you were raising lettuce would you go over to your neighbour's house and kill his rabbits?
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I guess these pigeon racers are on the same level as cock fighters. they don't care about the birds at all.
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It's sad that folks take joy in killing hawks and falcons. But if I were, say, raising shih tzus, and a neighber's pit bulls were killing them, I'd probably want them dead.
ProfWombat
That does not work.
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T;azolteotl: I think you have it right; they had no respect for birds qua birds, and took pleasure in their death...
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But if I were, say, raising shih tzus, and a neighber's pit bulls were killing them, I'd probably want them dead.
You might, but would you brag about beating and smothering them?
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But if I were, say, raising shih tzus, and a neighber's pit bulls were killing them, I'd probably want them dead.
Pigeons aren't shih tzu's and falcons aren't pit bulls.
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"Dantooine...they're on Dantooine"
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You keep live ham?
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If I was raising republicans and the neighbors pit bulls were eating them, I'd probably want to get some puppies to raise.
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ct: no, it doesn't, now that i think of it more. A pit bull owner is obligated to control his animals. Raptors raised to return to the wild, and living in it, are quite their own selves.
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ProfWombat. A man of integrity.
cosmic tumbler |
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quite their own selves.
ProfWombat
..and pigeons are lettuce.
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If I was raising republicans and the neighbors pit bulls were eating them, I'd probably want to get some puppies to raise.
I'd pitch in for kibbles.
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I'd pitch in for kibbles.
Mr French
I'd ptitch in for a stomach pump. Poor doggies.
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WTF is this on CNN and why did I not get a chance to liveblog it?
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Near where I live, the Navy wants to expand a fighter training area, which would mean killing a shload of native aviary animals. You might think that the locals would be gung ho about it, but they are opposing the Navy tooth and nail, and it is causing the military not a small amount of discomfort.
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"In my experience there's no such thing as luck".
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Hillary wearing a pink scarf and babbling on abortion.
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"Three Oregon Cases Are Part of a Nationwide Effort to Stop the Illegal Killing of Hawks, Peregrine Falcons, and Other Birds of Prey
Federal authorities have charged three Oregon men with unlawfully attempting to take, capture, and kill red-tailed and Cooper's hawks, and/or peregrine falcons, in violation of the Migratory Bird Treaty Act. The defendants, all leaders of 'roller pigeon' clubs, were arraigned in the Portland, Oregon, United States District Court on June 8. The charges are part of a larger investigation across the United States 'Operation High Roller' that targets roller pigeon owners who kill hawks and falcons, despite their protected status under federal law "
http://www.fws.gov/news/
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We have several pairs of peregrines in Seattle. One of them nests on a bridge I drive on to get to work. I see them quite often, and feel pretty protective of them, in addition to the many red-tailed hawks whose territories I drive through on the way to and from work (I'm so bad, I've actually named them).
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WTF is this on CNN and why did I not get a chance to liveblog it?
I think that is their Faith and Politics thing from Monday. Why the democrats agreed to it is a mystery. God orbid that CNN does a segment on the poor, or healthcare, or foregin policy. Instead they got these democrats up there to make odd hooting noises about sky gods.
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"In my experience there's no such thing as luck".
Apprentice to Darth Holden
True, but there is chaos, which always leads to change.
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rorty is dead
Oh shit.
spinoza |
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"Ain't no all-powerful force controls my destiny."
Culture of TrÜth |
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Devil Dinosaur By Jack Kirby Omnibus HC (Hardcover)
bestill my heart.
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"In my experience there's no such thing as luck".
Obi-Wan, you're so damn snotty.
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Cock fighters? What about human cock fighting?
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There's at least one redtail in my neighborhood who has learned to skim along the street about 3 - 4 feet off the ground. I came around the corner of the block one day and found myself driving along right behind him - he darted right, picked up something, then went back to flying down the middle of the street, veered off to the left, and set down in a neighbor's yard to devour the rat he had caught.
It does make me worry for the cat, though.
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Hillary pressing healthcare and faith. Sez 40 million uninsured is a "moral wrong."
Culture of TrÜth |
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"Send a scanning crew aboard. I want every part of this ship checked."
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It was nice to see a family of falcons, I think they were, or perhaps eagles, which took up roosting in order to raise their young on the ledge of a skyscraper one week in Manhattan, quite some time ago already, perhaps a dozen or so. The papers ran several front pages about them, and much of the city seemed to slow down a bit. Even the hard-bitten tabloids softened and carried doting 2-pagers with close-up photos of the avian family with detailed reports of how the father would fly back from central park with nesting materials. The fledgeling birds, unable to fly and relying on their parents for sustenance high above the town seemed to humanize our city for a while, and that is never a bad thing.
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Cock fighters? What about human cock fighting?
marv
The analogy doesn't work.
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We occasionally have egrets, which are royalty, IMO, and they act accordingly. But aside from the usual drakes and gulls, we often see ospreys, which at a distance, look quite like bald eagles. They are huge birds.
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=*=, you aren't referring to Pale Male, the red tailed hawk that resides on an apartment building next to Central Park, are you?
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Wolf Blizter is no going to rerun both debates from last week, but cross comparing their answers, or something.
Funny thing I learned this evening, if you google the Repulican debate, you get 9,500,000 hits, but that crazy Atriots, The Bobblespeak Translations is #1.
heh.
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Rorty was a good man, and engaged in the world more than philosophers tend to be these days. He'll be missed, but he will live on through the many he's influenced:
I've only this one consolation
As out of this old world I go:
I know that the next generation
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"Bring 'em on! I'd prefer a straight fight to all this sneaking around!"
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Not a bad summary of what Rorty accomplished:
Richard Rorty, the leading American philosopher and heir to the pragmatist tradition, passed away on Friday, June 8.... His work redefined knowledge 'as a matter of conversation and of social practice, rather than as an attempt to mirror nature' and thus redefined philosophy itself as an unending, democratically disciplined, social and cultural activity of inquiry, reflection, and exchange, rather than an activity governed and validated by the concept of objective, extramental truth."
http://www.telospress.com/main/i...&
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I Pre ordered it and Jack Kirby's fourth world Vol.s 1 and 2.
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Worst. Scanning Crew. Ever.
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Speaking of wildlife management, if any of you live in the areas with giant flying roaches that sometimes come into the house....if you catch one on the kitchen counter, a spray of white vinegar will slow it down and disorient it enough to knock it to the floor and kill it.
The vinegar, it burns, it BURNS!
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We have great blue herons everywhere. I often see them flying from one part of the city to another (usually from the Arboretum to GasWorks Park). They look like pterodactyls when in flight.
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Bald eagle perched not too far away from my brother's house...
http://thumbsnap.com/v/3DyeW7L0.jpg
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The analogy doesn't work. MMA cage matches? Maybe. Two homeless men provoked into fighting by 15 year old kids. Yes.
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the owls the developers displaced when they cleared the woods across the street have been rather slow to return to the Oaks around here.
and the hawks are constantly after their young. but they are coming back, nonetheless.
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O there was a redtailed hawk in my leafy suburban neighborhood last summer that scared the bejesus out of me one morning. I was backing out of the garage, minding my own business, and this *huge* pair of wings swooped down toward my windshield and back up over the roof of the car. That wingspan was four feet if it was an inch. Holy crap, that was a waker-upper if ever there was one -- and I was glad the cats were inside!
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Not a bad summary of what Rorty accomplished:
Richard Rorty, the leading American philosopher and heir to the pragmatist tradition, passed away on Friday, June 8.... His work redefined knowledge 'as a matter of conversation and of social practice, rather than as an attempt to mirror nature' and thus redefined philosophy itself as an unending, democratically disciplined, social and cultural activity of inquiry, reflection, and exchange, rather than an activity governed and validated by the concept of objective, extramental truth."
Blog on.
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I occassionally have egrets, but you know, you can never look back.
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That Amherst speech and Q&A by Patrick Fitzgerald is replaying on c-span now.
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It was nice to see a family of falcons, I think they were, or perhaps eagles
Pale Male and his brood?
"Pale Male," who built his nest at 927 Fifth Avenue back in 1993, was unceremoniously dispossessed along with his girlfriend, "Lola," by the co-op's board — which is headed by the real estate developer Richard Cohen, the husband of CNN anchor Paula Zahn.
http://
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Why does JOHN FROM CINCCINNATI hate me?
He keeps crashing my pc!
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"Where did you dig up that old fossil?"
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It does make me worry for the cat, though.
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Well, if it's a large enough hawk for yo uto worry about the cat it's probably a her, not a him. The ladies can take a fair sized bunny, so if you have a small cat...
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strawhat, I had something like that happen with an owl flying right in front of my car when I was just about to turn into our driveway late one night. Scared the bejeesus out of me, too.
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whenever I visit a shop I always scan through their one dollar boxes, looking for Devil Dinosaur, or OMAC. a shop is always known by how many cheap Kirby's they have in the bins. imho.
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I Pre ordered it and Jack Kirby's fourth world Vol.s 1 and 2.
I bought New Gods #1 when it first came out back in 1970. I was a fan of his even then. I was 7.
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I occassionally have egrets, but you know, you can never look back.
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Dylan, Ginsberg?
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"But they're going to kill her!"
"Better her than me!"
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Egrets, I've had a few...
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Egrets, I've had a few...
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Yes, so?
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=*=, you aren't referring to Pale Male, the red tailed hawk that resides on an apartment building next to Central Park, are you?
Tlazolteotl
mmmm, don't think so, although perhaps. As I recall it was a family that just suddenly decided to set up housekeeping. Perhaps it was PM though; as I said it was quite a while back. Those stories are by no means unknown in the Apple, but are generally rare and always notable. There is something about the contrast of nature and city, like the roots of a sidewalk tree that might one day break through an edge of the pavement square surrounding it. You look at that, at it makes you think a bit.
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O there was a redtailed hawk in my leafy suburban neighborhood last summer that scared the bejesus out of me one morning.
I once had a red tail fly into the house through the kitchen sliding doors. The spinoza cat took immediate notice. You could see the thought processes:
1. birds
2. big bird
3. big treat (cat gets up)
4. maybe too big (cat pauses)
5. uh oh.
The hawk flopped on the kitchen floor, then finally made it out the doors. It pushed back enough air that I could feel its force as it left the house.
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That wingspan was four feet if it was an inch.
About right.
I love redtails
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Well, if it's a large enough hawk for yo uto worry about the cat it's probably a her, not a him. The ladies can take a fair sized bunny, so if you have a small cat...
JR, kerosene and a match
The kitty is not a large one...a few months back, I heard an owl and then saw the wingspread on it when it flew out of the tree...kitty was not allowed back outside at night until I was sure it had left the area.
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Egrets, I've had a few...
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Good opening for a song...

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whenever I visit a shop I always scan through their one dollar boxes, looking for Devil Dinosaur, or OMAC. a shop is always known by how many cheap Kirby's they have in the bins. imho.
The mid to late '70's stuff can be obtained relatively cheaply, but it is nice to have it in book form, if only for the fact that the printing is so much better now.
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Good heavens, spinoza! A redtail hawk in the kitchen? What was *your* thought process?
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The hawk flopped on the kitchen floor, then finally made it out the doors. It pushed back enough air that I could feel its force as it left the house.
spinoza
Awesome.
2nd attempt.
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I do too, JR. I love birds, period. Though I have to admit, I'm not so fond of pigeons...well, the peregrines need something dumb to eat.... 
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I saw a giant Egret in full flight on the Hackensack river this afternoon.
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Kitties no likey the large birds. As I was saying earlier about the Czech neighbors with the parrots.
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"Where are you taking this...thing?"
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Good heavens, spinoza! A redtail hawk in the kitchen? What was *your* thought process?
Why is there a bird between me and the coffee maker?
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Yes, I know it was corny and obvious, but it is late and I am intoxicated. C'est la vie.
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Ice Spiders!
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That was a great story, Jennifer - I told my partner during dinner, and he cracked up.
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well, the peregrines need something dumb to eat....
Tlazolteotl
Too bad there are no rocs, to take out the pigeon breeders.
Although a nesting pair of harpy eagles could put a dent in their spawn populations.
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During winter here, the redtails are fond of sitting in the trees up and down the interstate...I've counted more than a dozen in a 75 mile stretch before. My guess is they're waiting for roadkill.
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Ice Spiders!
Again?!?
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I saw a giant Egret in full flight on the Hackensack river this afternoon.
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Get outta town -- really?
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Though I have to admit, I'm not so fond of pigeons...
My brother calls them shit hawks.
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I saw a giant Egret in full flight on the Hackensack river this afternoon.
Culture of TrÜth | Homepage | 06.10.07 - 1:11 am | #
Get outta town -- really?
steve simels
They are all over the lakes of eastern pa.
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Ice Spiders!
rorschach
Conjure a creature to keep 'em busy while you whack 'em, got me through that section.
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My cat once took a peek into the bird room...when the greys sighted him, they started growling (an amazing, scary sound) - he turned tail and ran back downstairs, fasted I've ever seen him move.
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During winter here, the redtails are fond of sitting in the trees up and down the interstate...I've counted more than a dozen in a 75 mile stretch before. My guess is they're waiting for roadkill.
Well, that explains NTodd's behavior.
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"Into the garbage chute, flyboy!"
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My brother calls them shit hawks.
Richard
Your brother is woefully incorrect.
Seagulls are shithawks.
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Tlaz - it freaked out my cat when they started calling him, too.
"Roscoe, Roscoe!"
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You can have this thread when you pry it from my cold dead ham.
Ham???, or Bacon Tree?
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I used to love to watch the interactions between my cats and my cockatoo.
Cockatoos can get real big, real fast when they feel the need.
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My guess is they're waiting for roadkill.
To you it's a highway, the them it is a buffet.
I love the way they space themselves out evenly along the road... very equalitarian.
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The mid to late '70's stuff can be obtained relatively cheaply, but it is nice to have it in book form, if only for the fact that the printing is so much better now.
Richard
I hope they collect the Black Panther and Captain America stuff from the late '70's.
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Waiting For Roadkill.
Jennifer
What is Becket's never-finished sequel?
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Dear Wombat, may I be forgiven
For not having hard enough striven
Your excellent sonnet
To heap praise upon it?
At work I am interrupt-driven.
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Hey kids - time for 4th of July shirts!
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I saw a giant Egret in full flight on the Hackensack river this afternoon.
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Oh please -- I saw a werewolf drinking a pina colada at Trader Vics.

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1. birds
2. big bird
3. big treat (cat gets up)
4. maybe too big (cat pauses)
5. uh oh.
The hawk flopped on the kitchen floor, then finally made it out the doors. It pushed back enough air that I could feel its force as it left the house.
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Ha Ha. Holy Crap...
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And his hair was perfect...
I've always been afraid of birds. Irrationally, uncontrollably afraid. Have no idea why.
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I saw a werewolf drinking a pina colada at Trader Vics.
Hup!
Draw blood...
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I saw a giant Egret in full flight on the Hackensack river this afternoon.
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Get outta town -- really?
steve simels
My office used to be on the river, and while they are not common, I would see on average about once every three months.
So yes, today was lucky, but there was no mistaking it. It actually swooped in front of the bus twice. Segulls and little egrets are not 5 feet long with a 4 foot wingspan -- never mind the legs.
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Oh please -- I saw a werewolf drinking a pina colada at Trader Vics.
steve simels
Warren Zevon was a gentle soul.
Sorry about the mis-post last night. Too much of everything.
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My guess is they're waiting for roadkill.
Actually, the like the sides of highways because they can see the rodents in the grass there more easily. Usually the grass is kept trimmed, so the hawks can really get a bead on the mice. Today I was driving towards Seattle from Redmond near the Micro$oft campus, a roadway with a lot of red tails. One crossed in front of me with a mouse in tow. I just saw the tail between the talons.
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Cockatoos can get real big, real fast when they feel the need.
Many years ago I had a red bellied conure that completely terrified 4 grown cats and a pit bull/mix.
It's all in the attitude.
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Hey, Steverino - how'd you do on the Preakness?
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Oh please -- I saw a werewolf drinking a pina colada at Trader Vics.
steve simels
Lord, that reminds me of the time I almost set a guy's head on fire in a club. He was sitting in front of us, and I had already been calling him Werewolf of London because he had wolf-man hair and, well, it was perfect. But I think he must have sprayed it, because when he started rocking out in his chair and was rocking back into my space, I lit my lighter and just held it up about even with my knees...he rocked back enough to catch a few hairs on fire and they flared bright enough that everyone sitting behind us saw it. My friends took my lighter away from me after that. Werewolf of London just kept rocking out, unaware that I had almost set his head on fire.
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To, with pleasure and thanks, repeat myself:
Your poems, sir, are every one a pisser.
I bow before the Greater Artificer.
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When I was young a neighbour rescued an orphaned red-tail baby, raaised it, trained it to hunt, then released it.
It would fly over the house and you would whistle to it, and it would answer.
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My guess is they're waiting for roadkill.
Actually, the like the sides of highways because they can see the rodents in the grass there more easily.
They are also interested in road salt. As I am sure you know, salt is rare (worth his weight in salt and all that). The amount we dump on roads attracts all kinds of animals.
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Egrets, I've had a few...
From heron out, I will not crane my neck to spy these creatures.
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rorshach, do you still have a 'too?
They are funny - they can look very big, but really they are all bone and feather. Little bitty scrawny things under all that fluff.
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Seagulls. Wow, have they ever gotten in on the act. Used to be they would not come anywhere near you, which is fine as they are beautiful, but up close quite a nuisance and nasty-beaked. One of those bastards marched right up and helped himself to the last bite of my beach sandwich. It was then I realized the late '90s were leading into a time entirely different from the past. My heart still goes out to any that get entangled in plastic or line, whatnot. That's really bad news. Gulls are all in all favorites though; excellent flyers, sort of the chevys of the air. Good functional birds.
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The amount we dump on roads attracts all kinds of animals.
spinoza
And kills all kinds of trees.
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Jennifer-
Remind me to keep you as a friend.
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56 visitors and everyone's all talky.
It's a good thing. 
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And kills all kinds of trees.
Yep..
Also, the spacing out of the birds has to do with their feeling safe from each other.
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I lit my lighter and just held it up about even with my knees...he rocked back enough to catch a few hairs on fire and they flared bright enough that everyone sitting behind us saw it. My friends took my lighter away from me after that.
I did that once. It ended in divorce.
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rorshach, do you still have a 'too?
They are funny - they can look very big, but really they are all bone and feather. Little bitty scrawny things under all that fluff.
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But they do love to be petted, unlike almost all other birds.
No, I don't have her any more. I found her on my stoop in New Orleans, kept her for a few years and brought her with me to the Ozarks, but then my travelling increased, so I sold her to a guy who kept and raised birds.
A very good home for her.
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The gulls around here caught on to cicadas right quick. You'll see a maple tree in someone's yard shaking and quaking, the top full of gulls, all chowing down on cicadas.
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"Will someone get this big walking carpet out of my way?"
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I'm not sure we use salt on the roads here, but I'm sure there are several reasons why you find redtails along roads.
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Werewolf of London just kept rocking out, unaware that I had almost set his head on fire.
Thats what that smell was!
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spinoza - as they say, a friend is someone who will help you move.
But only a best friend will help you move a body.
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I'm not sure we use salt on the roads here, but I'm sure there are several reasons why you find redtails along roads.
Everything is an interaction. (Where is Sallyh?)
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But only a best friend will help you move a body.
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I move the body of my best friend all the time.
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But only a best friend will help you move a body.
Jennifer- Is there something you are not tellinig us????
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But they do love to be petted, unlike almost all other birds.
True. Though my greys and the pionus do love to get their heads scratched...a lot. But the all-over scratching and stroking that cockatoos like isn't tolerated by most birds.
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Werewolf of London just kept rocking out, unaware that I had almost set his head on fire.
I saw a guy with a huge afro do that to himself at an Earth, Wind, and Fire concert. Too much paper in the joint.
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But only a best friend will help you move a body.
Jennifer
Especially if it is your own.
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my best friends body is moving all the time.
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I hope they collect the Black Panther and Captain America stuff from the late '70's.
They've done it already.The complete runs of both have been reprinted. Here are the titles...
Black Panther By Jack Kirby Volume 1 TPB
Black Panther By Jack Kirby Volume 2 TPB (Black Panther)
Captain America by Jack Kirby, Vol. 1: Madbomb
Captain America by Jack Kirby, Vol. 2: Bicentennial Battles
Captain America by Jack Kirby, Vol. 3: The Swine
Fuck you haloscan.
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I'm glad you found a good home for her. 'Toos are demanding birds to have as pets.
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Ryan Adams - Kinda derivative, his name is too close to another performer, but he's quite good. This performance is intense!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y...h?
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I was in bar once and it was really late and this guy with long hair was drunk and oblivious and getting on my nerves and I guess I was drunk too and I got out my lightsaber and was playing with it and anyway I sort of cut off his arm but we all had a good laugh and I throw the owner ten bucks and said sorry about the mess.
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But the all-over scratching and stroking that cockatoos like isn't tolerated by most birds.
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Yeah, she used to raise her wings insistently, demanding to be scratched underneath them. She was a sweetheart and a rascal.
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Jennifer- Is there something you are not tellinig us????
I don't think so. I know I've told the story about my friend's Uncle Frank being dug up and half-eaten by wild hogs several times around here. I've not tried to hide my light under a bushel round these parts.
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Crikey, Patrick Fitzgerald is making sane arguments about dealing with drugs and terrorism. He just said you cannot just arrest people to solve the problems. Giuliani! You hear that you fucking stupid cheap boy cop!?
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"What kept you?"
"We ran into some old friends"
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06.10.07 - 1:29 am | #
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Well I'd better get on the ball..I love those omnibus sized hardcovers, tho...
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06.10.07 - 1:30 am | #
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Giuliani! You hear that you fucking stupid cheap boy cop!?
spinoza
"Warehouse anyone who doesn't agree with me."
MP |
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I don't think so. I know I've told the story about my friend's Uncle Frank being dug up and half-eaten by wild hogs several times around here. I've not tried to hide my light under a bushel round these parts.
Can you put it in dactylic hexameter and get it annotated by thers?
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I've not tried to hide my light under a bushel round these parts.
This little light of mine.
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A medical examiner blamed a 17-year-old track star's death on the use of too much muscle cream, the kind used to soothe aching legs after exercise.
Arielle Newman, a cross-country runner at Notre Dame Academy on Staten Island, died after her body absorbed high levels of methyl salicylate, an anti-inflammatory found in sports creams such as Bengay and Icy Hot, the New York City medical examiner said Friday.
The medical examiner's spokeswoman, Ellen Borakove, said the teen used "topical medication to excess." She said it was the first time that her office had reported a death from using a sports cream.
http://
www.democraticunderground...mesg_id=2875489
Apply conservatively, I guess.
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QuentinCompson |
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Simels,
I'm watching something called "The British Beat" on PBS.
Culture of TrÜth |
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06.10.07 - 1:33 am | #
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I've not tried to hide my light under a bushel round these parts.
Jennifer- I love you a bushel and a peck, a bush and a peck, and a hug around the neck.
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Alrighty. Kelele is living up to his name and gacking like hell for the lights to go out. Parrots are very much creatures of habit, and they expect to be put to bed. Right this very minute! Kianga keeps telling him "you're all right" but he isn't buying it. Later, batses.
Tlazolteotl |
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Died of ben-gay poisoning? Yikes. Bummer.
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Jennifer- I love you a bushel and a peck, a bush and a peck, and a hug around the neck.
spinoza
Oy.
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'night, all
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"I'm taking an awful risk, Vader. This had better work."
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The medical examiner's spokeswoman, Ellen Borakove, said the teen used "topical medication to excess." She said it was the first time that her office had reported a death from using a sports cream.
I saw that earlier. Bizarro world stuff.
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My mom used to sing that little jingle, spinoza, I haven't thought of that in ages.
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Can you put it in dactylic hexameter and get it annotated by thers?
spinoza
Sorry, but I'm immune to the charms of poetry...at least the vast majority of it.
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"I'm taking an awful risk, Vader. This had better work."
"If only you could feel the power of Ben-Gay"
Culture of TrÜth |
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Night all.
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Guiliani needs to have it *all* exposed, everything, if he persists in this creepy fantasy of his, that he will actually become the Chief Executive of the United States.
MP |
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strawhat-I am not sure, but I think my mom's knowing it came from a quaker background.
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06.10.07 - 1:36 am | #
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How come I always miss the Kirby conversations?
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06.10.07 - 1:37 am | #
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That must have been a ton of cream she slathered on, she must have been highly sensitive, and probably at least somewhat dehydrated and really excersising hard, since salycilic is just asperin. Probably somehow absorbed through all her pores open from running. Probably hot and humid out too. What a way to go. Not good. Although still very weird; perhaps she had some other condition or substances going as well.
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I find it hard to imagine America actually electing the Keeper of the Crypt...
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When we were kids, we used to sing this one (to the tune of "silver threads amongst the gold"):
In the boarding house where I lived,
Everything was green with mold.
Grandma's hair fell in the butter,
Silver threads amongst the gold.
When the dog died we had sausage,
When the cat died catnip tea.
When the landlord died I left there,
Spareribs were too much for me.
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Jennifer, Rickety Tickety Tin was one of my favorite songs as a kid.
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If you're a fan of Steve Ditko and Jack Kirby, then this should be of interest...
AMAZING FANTASY OMNIBUS
http://www.marvel.com/catalog/?c...ZING%20FANTASY&
Across six issues of truly amazing adventures, Lee, Kirby, and Ditko dreamed up a cadre of ten-story tall menaces from Torr to Manoo to the one and only Monsteroso to trash unwitting Earthlings on a month-in and month-out basis. Backed up by weird tales of wax museums, witchcraft, Martians, and the occult master who set the trenchcoat trend in comics, Dr. Druid, it seemed these titanic tales could never be topped.
And then Stan Lee and Steve Ditko did just that by launching “The Magazine That Respects Your Intelligence!” An all-new approach for the young comics sophisticate, Amazing Adult Fantasy presented Twilight Zone-tinged tales of otherworldly aliens, time travel, ghosts, atomic nightmares, and maybe even the secret of the universe itself. With story after lushly-illustrated story, Ditko set a new standard for comic book illustration, and Lee raised the bar ever higher with his scintillating scripts. And, oh, in the last issue they created some guy named “Spider-Man.”
Collecting this lynchpin series of Marvel Comics’ history for the first time ever, the Amazing Fantasy Omnibus puts AMAZING ADVENTURES #1-6, AMAZING ADULT FANTASY #7-14 and AMAZING FANTASY #15 between two hardcovers 45 years in the making.
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Sorry, but I'm immune to the charms of poetry...at least the vast majority of it.
Gossip grows like weeds
In a summer meadow.
My girl and I
Sleep arm in arm.
-Htomaro
I wish I were close
To you as the wet skirt of
a salt girl to her body.
I think of you always.
-Akahito
(Rexroth translations)
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I'm watching the NBA finals from 1993. They canceled game 2 for this year.
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Walton: Judge, Snark Artist.
Goodnight.
Culture of TrÜth |
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06.10.07 - 1:42 am | #
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All hail Judge Walton.
The man's got a real talent.
Jennifer |
06.10.07 - 1:43 am | #
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"Look at the size of that thing!"
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Where the fudge is Ntodd ?
Gilly Gonzylon |
06.10.07 - 1:44 am | #
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"We have to destroy them ship to ship. Get the crews to their fighters."
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Where the fudge is Ntodd ?
Working double-time behind the Tastee Freez?
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Night all.
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Where the fudge is Ntodd ?
Gilly Gonzylon
Late night at the Tastee Freeze.
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Where the fudge is Ntodd ?
Collecting roadkill on interstate 91.
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06.10.07 - 1:46 am | #
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I'm watching this Valtrex commercial. A young couple looking lovingly at each other
He - "I have genital herpes"
She- "And I don't"
He- "And if possible, we'd like to keep it that way"
LOL
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EE Cummings. Good Poetry. Robert Frost too. Let's see. All of Shakespeares plays read like poetry, to me anyway. Some of Gertrude Steins work is fascinating. Some ancient stuff is beautiful, like digging up rare relics. A few of Sapphos works seem like they are being read in the next room, their feel is so contemporary. Not a poetry expert, but a fan.
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If the pundits want to wonder aloud in public about what has so coarsened our society, they need look no further than TV drug and personal hygiene ads.
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Ditko and Kirby: Pure Genius...
"Apply conservatively, I guess."
Let The Buyer Beware...
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"The guns...they've stopped!"
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If the pundits want to wonder aloud in public about what has so coarsened our society, they need look no further than TV drug and personal hygiene ads.
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Certainly one place.
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Walton. It is nice to note that there is something resembling a judge left somewhere. Although of course the pardon noises are everywhere. Exactly how much longer does this go on before they simply come right out and say "look, there is no justice except for when we want your parking ticket and dwi money, you schmucks, everyone knew that when we stole 2000 for massa."
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A friend just sent me this. I don't know why.
http://video.google.com/videopla...6&
q=tornado.avi
Maybe he's not really a friend?
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Where Are Your Friends Tonight? - Franz Ferdinand
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"You worry about those fighters, I'll worry about the tower."
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I'd like to tie up that cialis couple for 35 hours and 59 minutes and make them get it on for the last minute.
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Maybe he's not really a friend?
ThinlyVeiled, Visitor 109 | 06.10.07 - 1:53 am | #
Is that Kathy Griffin ? It should be...
Gilly Gonzylon |
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That is the freakiest thing evah. Hey!
You go girl, you go.
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heehee
he said 'pro bono'
heeeee
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Why do we have problems with drugs? Because kids are told by the teevee, repeatedly, that drugs are the answer to their problems.
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Judge Reinhold will head the appeal...
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Dang,it's actually slow enough here for me to keep up. Maybe I should stay up late more often.
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Apprentice - the whole society is pretty much over-medicated, with either the legal junk or the other. Pretty much every person you know who runs to the doctor for antibiotics every time they get the sniffles has bought into it. And I know lots of them. (True to nature, I always have to hold myself back from tearing them a new one for making antibiotics ineffective.)
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Why do we have problems with drugs? Because kids are told by the teevee, repeatedly, that drugs are the answer to their problems.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S...h?
v=SQtJmp7C7MI
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True to nature, I always have to hold myself back from tearing them a new one for making antibiotics ineffective
True to my nature, I always let 'em have it full force. Maybe that's why people think I'm such a bitch? Sometimes, though, I just can't bear the stupidity. Like the gal at work who refuses to watch the "news" because it's so depressing, and if she watched it she might have to do something about it. I shit you not, she actually said that.
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I would have died twice in this lifetime without antibiotics
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I would have died twice in this lifetime without antibiotics
phillip
Which is why they should only be used appropriately, instead of dispensed like candy to treat viruses.
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instead of dispensed like candy to treat viruses.
Upon which they have no effect.
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True to my nature, I always let 'em have it full force. Maybe that's why people think I'm such a bitch? Sometimes, though, I just can't bear the stupidity. Like the gal at work who refuses to watch the "news" because it's so depressing, and if she watched it she might have to do something about it. I shit you not, she actually said that.
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At the same time, I'm envious of those who are too unaware to know better. They're happier - more oblivious, but happier.
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Salicylic acid is not methyl salicylate. Methy salicylate is salicylic acid methyl ester. It's different.
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Well, time to take my unhappy, reality based ass to bed. The old man's due home soon, and as I am currently somewhat displeased with him, I wish to be incommunicado upon his return. Thanks y'all for putting up with/entertaining me tonite.
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True to my nature, I always let 'em have it full force.
Don't get me wrong; I can be very prosecutorial. I just save for when people are being assertively, rather than passively, stupid. You know, the guy blathering right wing talking points and making other people stupid in the process. I have to let most stuff slide, or I'd be chewing on someone all the time.
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Night. Lovely to chat witcha....
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I have to let most stuff slide, or I'd be chewing on someone all the time.
I come pre-tenderized.

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JACKSON — The state of Mississippi must have a party registration system and voter identification law in place for the 2008 elections, a federal judge has ruled.
U.S. District Judge W. Allen Pepper said political parties have a right to stop non-party members from voting in their primary elections. He said party registration and voter ID would do that.
Pepper ruled late Friday in a lawsuit filed in 2006 by plaintiffs wanting to stop non-Democrats from voting in Democratic primary elections. The Mississippi Republican Party was not involved in the lawsuit, but Pepper said his decision applies to all party primaries in the state.
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Pepper said voters must re-register and carry a party registration party and a photo ID to the polls in primary elections. Pepper said voters not wanting to register by party can designate themselves as unaffiliated, or independents.
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Opponents say there’s no proof that people have been masquerading as others at the polls. They also say that requiring ID could intimidate older black Mississippians, who for decades faced poll taxes and other Jim Crow laws that kept them from voting.
http://
www.democraticunderground...mesg_id=2875447
The judge who would be king.
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You know, the guy blathering right wing talking points and making other people stupid in the process.
Jennifer | 06.10.07 - 2:11 am | #
I've never encountered someone like that . I 'm laughing at the folks in San Diego county who are a huge pocket of reich wingers, yet are working feverishly to deny Blackwater from building facilities in a community over there.
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The most quoted movie in British history (60 sec clip)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j...h?
v=j5EmCKbWS6c
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Salicylic acid is not methyl salicylate. Methy salicylate is salicylic acid methyl ester. It's different.
corndogs in the snow
ah. perhaps that methyl ester part had something to do with it then. Sounds a bit more gasolin-y than just asperin
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Jennifer | 06.10.07 - 2:11 am | #
Those aggressively stupid types like Bush...
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Gilly Gonzylon | 06.10.07 - 2:22 am | #
One of my favorite pieces of British cinema...
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
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hey peeps.
trifecta |
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06.10.07 - 2:25 am | #
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One of my favorite pieces of British cinema...
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin | 06.10.07 - 2:24 am | #
I knew you'd be a fan 
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I just save for when people are being assertively, rather than passively, stupid.
Gear up then. There's a whole passle of way stupid coming down the pike, and from here it looks like a tsunami of aggressively, as opposed to merely assertively
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working feverishly to deny Blackwater from building facilities in a community over there.
Gee. One would think that they would welcome a private army at the border protecting them from uncontrolled Hell that is Meh-hee-co. Maybe, though, they're smart enough to understand that Blackwater is an army that will be used against them someday too.
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You know, the guy blathering right wing talking points and making other people stupid in the process.
Jennifer
The wingers don't bear listening to anymore, period. They are truly dangerous.
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Gilly Gonzylon | 06.10.07 - 2:25 am | #
I'm becoming predictable...
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Why do we have problems with drugs?
Because they are part of a highly profitable scheme. For some.
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The Key spot tornado. Great link...
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"Clinton voted for No Child Left Behind, President Bush's signature education policy, in 2001, but has since been a sharp critic. She said the program's emphasis on testing is diluting resources from other valuable areas of education."
So, did she take any lobby ondations for this cause? Was she simply for NCLB before she was against it?
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That's not a wave. This is a wave
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I'm becoming predictable...
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin | 06.10.07 - 2:29 am | #
No, you obviously have good taste.
Gilly Gonzylon |
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Brad Delong claims he can read a book in less than 20 minutes and retain everything. Do you believe that? Have you ever witnessed such a skill.
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That's not a wave. This is a wave
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A fave Youtube clip ...
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Gilly Gonzylon | 06.10.07 - 2:39 am | #
Thanks. Glad to see people who appreciate things that I like, and that I appreciate things they like.
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It's like "Community Health Centers".
Ahh...what about like doctors just doing their job normally in normal places like clinics and hospitals? Why does some new format always have to be propagated daily in order to dilute systems that should simply be restored and revamped to work correctly to begin with? How about just using common sense to get existing systems back to functioning and doing more with less bloat, instead of issuing ever-less effective "new" things?
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E-d-u-c-a-t-i-o-n. B-o-o-k-s. Smaller C-l-a-s-s-e-s. T-e-a-c-h-e-r-s. who get paid well enough to make it worth their while. etc etc etc. it's not rocket science.
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Yeah, the hospital will write things off but
radiology
anesthesiologists
surgeons
wound doctors
Will all bill separetely and all have different ways of dealing with financial hardship.
Most doctors are in fact pricks and refuse to write anything off until they have first destroyed your credit.
Their 'collection' attitude also prevents necessary and immediate follow up care because the person simply can't afford another bill.
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Why does some new format always have to be propagated daily in order to dilute systems that should simply be restored and revamped to work correctly to begin with? How about just using common sense to get existing systems back to functioning and doing more with less bloat, instead of issuing ever-less effective "new" things?
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It's a consumer culture. There must be new systems to consume as well.
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All we are saying, is give peas a chance!
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ifthethunderdontgetya™ł˛®© |
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Keach, all true. And really, really bad for America. When you realize there is an agenda to fuck everything up as much as possible it all starts to make much more sense, however. http://www.CuttingThroughTheMatrix.com
Most of the Republicans hardly realize how well and truly they've been had, and the ones that do and are into it, well, they are going to regret it when they suddenly become "expendables" themselves.
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Agreed and understood, Jenniffer. Hardly a recipie for any sort of stability, however. More like the opposite.
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Very funny Two Ronnies sketch...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G...h?
v=Ge7tLYQjtY4
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The Onion: Retired Gen. George Washington Criticizes Bush's
Mr.Murder |
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Good grief, haloscan sucks like a hoover.
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Anyone awake?
Phila |
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"E-d-u-c-a-t-i-o-n. B-o-o-k-s. Smaller C-l-a-s-s-e-s. T-e-a-c-h-e-r-s. who get paid well enough to make it worth their while. etc etc etc. it's not rocket science."
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Why is it that Republicans are convinced this is the one problem we are NOT supposed to throw money at, to solve?
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Kinda.
Mr French |
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T'storms say it's time go.
Be good all.
Mr French |
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Why is it that Republicans are convinced this is the one problem we are NOT supposed to throw money at, to solve?
Duane V | 06.10.07 - 3:09 am | #
Because if they can't completely control what kids are learning, they'd rather not have an educational system.
Phila |
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Haloscan's too much for me. Fuck it.
G'night.
Phila |
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This blog is a bunch of jackoff bullshit
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This blog is a bunch of jackoff bullshit
Big-Cocked Mike | 06.10.07 - 3:24 am | #
Yeah? Well, you're, like, a pussy and shit.
So there.
rorschach, shrimpherd |
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How can he be a pussy AND be "big cocked mike"?
Duane V |
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David Broder wanks so hard in today's column that he is in the ICU due to dehydration.
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How can he be a pussy AND be "big cocked mike"?
Duane V | 06.10.07 - 3:38 am | #
It makes it easier when we tell him to go fuck himself.
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there is that.
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Has anybody else seen the youtube footage of Alex Jones asking David Broder about the Bohemian Grove? Hilarious.
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The baby fell asleep 30 minutes ago, and like a retard I am awake still.
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This blog is a bunch of jackoff bullshit
Use your leadership to guide us to the promised land.
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I made the mistake of reading Broder while feeding him a bottle.
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I made the mistake of reading Broder while feeding him a bottle.
trifecta | Homepage | 06.10.07 - 3:47 am | #
Didn't you see the signs?
PLEASE DO NOT BOTTLE-FEED THE BRODERS!
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Broder gets fussy without his feeding though!
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Broder gets fussy without his feeding though!
Have you tried natural sounds, like ocean waves?
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Actually baby Tait has a sound machine built into his bassinet. He just has a long stretch around 2-3:30ish in the morning when he wants attention. He is a pretty decent sleeper. Our toddler only slept for periods of 2 hours or less at a time, so I ain't complaining.
But I am going to try going back to bed.
Night folks.
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"Broder gets fussy without his feeding though"
makes him gassy. and we know what a gasbag Broder can be..
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Broder - Libby was convicted on the testimony of reporters from NBC, the New York Times and Time magazine -- a further provocation to conservatives.
Perhaps Broder believes that no one really reads his column anyway so, just for fun write the most absurd shit imaginable and see what happens.
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Perhaps Broder believes that no one really reads his column anyway so, just for fun write the most absurd shit imaginable and see what happens.
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No, no. The mainstream media are respectable and dependable, whereas crazy-ass blogs such as, say, firedoglake, are just a bunch of deranged lunatics.
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Broder - Libby was convicted on the testimony of reporters from NBC, the New York Times and Time magazine -- a further provocation to conservatives.
Perhaps Broder believes that no one really reads his column anyway so, just for fun write the most absurd shit imaginable and see what happens.
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Yep. Nothing else explains it.
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One thing could explain it. Broder could be a senile old douchebag.
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Meanwhile, back on the WaPo Front Page, Thomas Ricks explains that We Ain't Goin' Anywhere
The immediate all-or-nothing debate in Washington over troop levels represents a false dilemma, some military officials said. Even if a total pullout is the goal, it could take a year to execute a full withdrawal. One official estimated that with only one major route from the country -- through southern Iraq to Kuwait -- it would take at least 3,000 large convoys some 10 months to remove U.S. military gear and personnel alone, not including the several thousand combat vehicles that would be needed to protect such an operation.
"We're not going to go from where we're at now to zero overnight," said Lt. Gen. Raymond T. Odierno, the U.S. commander for day-to-day operations in Iraq.
U.S. officials also calculate that underneath the anti-American rhetoric, even Shiite radicals such as cleric Moqtada al-Sadr don't really want to see a total U.S. pullout, especially while they feel threatened by Sunni insurgents. Also, officials think any Iraqi government will prefer to keep a small U.S. combat force to deter foreign intervention.
Such a long-term presence would have four major components. The centerpiece would be a reinforced mechanized infantry division of around 20,000 soldiers assigned to guarantee the security of the Iraqi government and to assist Iraqi forces or their U.S. advisers if they get into fights they can't handle.
Second, a training and advisory force of close to 10,000 troops would work with Iraqi military and police units. "I think it would be very helpful to have a force here for a period of time to continue to help the Iraqis train and continue to build their capabilities," Odierno said.
In addition, officials envision a small but significant Special Operations unit focused on fighting the Sunni insurgent group al-Qaeda in Iraq. "I think you'll retain a very robust counterterror capability in this country for a long, long time," a Pentagon official in Iraq said.
Finally, the headquarters and logistical elements to command and supply such a force would total more than 10,000 troops, plus some civilian contractors.
The thinking behind this "post-occupation" force, as one official called it, echoes the core conclusion of a Joint Chiefs of Staff planning group that last fall secretly considered three possible courses in Iraq, which it categorized as "go big," "go home" and "go long." The group's recommendation to reshape the U.S. presence in order to "go long" -- to remain in Iraq for years with a smaller force -- appears to carry weight in Baghdad, where some of the colonels who led that planning group have been working for Army Gen. David H. Petraeus, the top U.S. commander in Iraq since February.
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Finally, the bizarre conclusion to Broder's column:
Nonetheless, on the fundamental point, Walton and Fitzgerald have it right. Libby let his loyalty to his boss and to the administration cloud his judgment -- and perhaps his memory -- in denying that he was part of the effort to discredit the Wilson pair. Lying to a grand jury is serious business, especially when it is done by a person occupying a high government position where the public trust is at stake.
Knowing Judge Walton a bit, I was certain that he would never be party to allowing a big shot to get off more easily than any of the two-bit bad guys who used to show up in his courtroom for sentencing. When he goes to his next school session, he wants to be able to tell those young people that no one is above the law -- and mean it. You see, Walton is not just in the business of enforcing the law. He is also committed to steering youths in the right direction. This case will help. I guess this is Broder being "bipartisan" again... "Wow, you're both right." I'm not clear on how he feels about pardons for Libby (or Hilton).
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CSpan2, aclu and chi trib forum.
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Lotta shouting over here for only 14 people.
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Horowitz is on CSpan2 as well...
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Anybody got any pizza?
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Anybody got any pizza?
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Arthur J. GWPDA
If I had a quarter, I'd head to the tastee freeze.
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Lotta shouting over here for only 14 people.
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Arthur J. GWPDA
I R NOT SHOUTING, YOUR EARS ARE JUST TO SENSITIVE!!!!
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Anybody got any pizza?
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Arthur J. GWPDA | Homepage | 06.10.07 - 5:00 am | #
Matter o' fact, I succumbed to laziness and ordered pizza tonight. Help yourself.
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Took me a minute to get up to speed, all of 16 moaners.
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Matter o' fact, I succumbed to laziness and ordered pizza tonight. Help yourself.
rorschach, shrimpherd
Out of sync again, Pizza was last night, tonight was take out tacos.
Rors, do I need to send you a food calendar?
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From the Ricks WaPo piece.
U.S. officials also calculate that underneath the anti-American rhetoric, even Shiite radicals such as cleric Moqtada al-Sadr don't really want to see a total U.S. pullout, especially while they feel threatened by Sunni insurgents. Also, officials think any Iraqi government will prefer to keep a small U.S. combat force to deter foreign intervention.
And from an AP article today
Al-Sadr himself resurfaced in late May for the first time in nearly four months, ending what U.S. officials have said was his voluntary exile in neighboring Iran, apparently to avoid arrest.
His public comments , in a Friday sermon May 25 and a television interview last week , have since been heavily anti-American, calling for the withdrawal of all foreign troops from Iraq and blaming the Americans for all of Iraq's woes.
Click here to find out more!
When they use force to say get the fuck out of here, they really mean stay.
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Rors, do I need to send you a food calendar?
Barry from Alaska | Homepage | 06.10.07 - 5:05 am | #
Nah.
Just send the food.
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Just send the food.
rorschach, shrimpherd
We can do that, it's fishing season up here.
Not gonna promise nothing, but some lucky Atriots (not Duncan) are gonna get Salmon in the mail (well, fedex box).
And that could be YOU RORS.
Now I just gotta catch em.
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I R NOT SHOUTING, YOUR EARS ARE JUST TOO SENSITIVE!!!!
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Barry from Alaska
Hunh. You still in the plane, bubba? I know when I'm piloting I HAVE TO START TALKING REALLY LOUDLY!
Anchovies on the pizza, maybe? I'd really like something fishy and crunchy.
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Salmon would be good. I'd like salmon.
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And that could be YOU RORS.
Now I just gotta catch em.
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I say go and do that thing! I could go for some fish with lemon and butter.
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Hunh. You still in the plane, bubba? I know when I'm piloting I HAVE TO START TALKING REALLY LOUDLY!
Anchovies on the pizza, maybe? I'd really like something fishy and crunchy.
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Art, you got me.
We are not just 14 peoples shouting, we are contemplating.
That's pretty hard for moi, as most regular folks will attest to.
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I suppose I could just make some scrambled eggs and machaca - I see Two Legs took some out of the freezer last night. She never uses enough green chile tho. And there is the question of onions - did she or didn't she?
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She never uses enough green chile tho.
GWPDA is abusive that way.
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I suppose I could just make some scrambled eggs and machaca - I see Two Legs took some out of the freezer last night. She never uses enough green chile tho. And there is the question of onions - did she or didn't she?
It all don't matter if there isn't Cilatnto in there somewhere.
Born and raised in El Paso, I rest my case.
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Cilantro is evil. Only Californians like the stuff. The rest of us know it for the roadside herb from hell it is.
Of course, you're entirely welcome to it if that's your choice. Please have whatever you were planning to share with me.
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I used to like cilantro, but for some reason I have grown to loathe it.
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I had a very bad recipe failure involving tomatillos and cilantro. To this day it disturbs me to remember it.
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Dogs can cook?
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Dogs can cook?
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Why not? I've seen the paintings of the poker games.
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Dogs can cook?
rorschach, shrimpherd
Hunh. Of course. So can cats, but they don't season properly.
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So can cats, but they don't season properly.
Arthur J. GWPDA | Homepage | 06.10.07 - 5:38 am | #
I dunno; my cats have been described as "saucy."
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I suppose I could just make some scrambled eggs and machaca
Wikipedia-
Machaca is a term used in the Amazon region for the lantern fly Fulgora lanternaria. It is as long as 3 inches, has a protuberance at its head that resembles that of a lizard or a serpent, and which was falsely believed to be luminescent. It protects itself by displaying fake eyes on its wings, with its bitter taste to predators, and perhaps with its quite unique head.
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Machaca from El Charro Cafe de Tucson
Ingredients
3 Qts. water
4-6 Lb. roast (eye of round, brisket or chuck) cut into several chunks
(3" cubes or so)
Juice of 2 Limes
3/4 C. pureed Garlic
1/3 C. Olive oil
1 C. chopped green chilies (roasted) 1/2 tsp. Salt (to taste)
1/2 tsp. black pepper (to taste)
1/2 Lg. sweet onion, diced
2 Tomatoes (chopped)
Methods/steps
In an 8 qt. stock pot bring the water to a boil, add the Meat & 1/4 C. Garlic & bring back to the boil then reduce the heat to a simmer for about 2 Hrs. or until Meat is tender. Remove the Meat & set aside until cool enough to handle with the fingers. By hand, shred the Meat into 1/2 inch wide strips going with the grain.
Combine the Lime juice with 1/4 C. Garlic. Spread the shredded Meat evenly over a large pre-sprayed (with Pam) cookie sheet & sprinkle evenly
with the Lime/Garlic mixture. Place into a pre-heated 325 F. oven & roast until brown and as DRY as you like it. Skim & save the broth for possible use later.
NOTE: At this point you may allow the Meat to cool while further prep is done or you may pkg. & freeze for use later. In a very large heavy skillet, sauté the Chiles in the Oil with the Salt & Pepper. Add the Onion & Tomatoes & sauté briefly, adding the remaining Garlic just before adding the Meat. Heat the Meat thoroughly adjusting the consistency with the left over broth. If to moist, allow
to evaporate while heating in uncovered skillet.
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It's way too early to be sharing recipes. That's for the late afternoon, early evening thread. Please pay attention to the FAQs.
My beautiful new wood floor needs to be taken out and refitted which means I cannot continue with unpacking, and indeed, must repack my sewing room.
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My beautiful new wood floor needs to be taken out and refitted
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On Topic
I want more cold dead hams.
Not that I want to kill piggies, but I do like hams.
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Hams are good. Our Great Aunt Dorothy used to send a whole country cured ham every Christmas. The kind you then had to desalt and de-rind.
When you care enough to send the very best - send meat.
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dont eat the morning glory seeds
they'll spoil your trip, the trip, the best part, I really like.
(what'd he say?)
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Moisture. And underlay of plastic needs to be put down.
I unpacked all my fabric and arranged them by color. All must be packed again.
It's just a set back.
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Bacon Tree joke... one last time, and I'm not gonna hyper link it
http://www.alaska.net/~babyrne/b.../
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Bacon tree
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Thers' cold dead ham? Ew.
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Thers' cold dead ham? Ew.
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Yeah, I prefer a lively sausage.
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Moisture. And underlay of plastic needs to be put down.
I unpacked all my fabric and arranged them by color. All must be packed again.
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Me too, rors! 
plantsman, bemused |
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 plantsman!
Looks like the morning crew is signing on.
Well - anybody want some of this machaca and scrambled eggs?
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I guess not my night for here, kittie pics this week.
Or else, it could be me not entertaining.
Well, both of them just sucks.
So I'll forget em both.
G'nite rational thinkers, and moonbats.
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The wood absorbed moisture from the concrete underneath. So a layer of plastic needs to be put down and then the floor refitted.
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Having nothing to do with hams or sausages, Israeli General who was originally in charge of West Bank and Gaza after the Six Day War had a recipe for peace.
http://news.independent.co.uk/
wo...icle2640432.ece
::: At first sight Mr Gazit could be a classic military hawk. A tough, unsentimental man with 37 years in the Israeli Defence Forces behind him, he has never been slow in condemning Palestinian attacks on Israeli civilians. Yet he enjoys the unique distinction of having, from the heart of the Israeli military, proposed in writing a Palestinian state exactly 40 years ago yesterday - 24 hours before the war had even ended.
And he has never been more convinced than now that such a state, its negotiated borders based on those that preceded the war, and involving withdrawal from most of the West Bank Jewish settlements, remains the only answer to the conflict.:::
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Good morning, everybody.
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G'night Barry. Sleep well. Fish to-morrow.
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steaming plate of lizard sausage
heck yes!
count me in
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G'night Barry. Sleep well. Fish to-morrow.
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Nite Barry, you missed the government helicopter being blown over at the airport.
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Morning crew?
Sigh. Again I have waked my way thru the night.
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Life goes on, just barely. Today, I will uncharacteristically attempt to engage dad to tell him the whole truth about my situation - something I have not attempted since HIS stroke, let alone mine - but circumstances have become so dire, I feel I must.
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make my flapjacks extra extra flappy
(the small ones work as castanets if you over cook them
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(And they all moved away from him on the blog.
No, I don't want to wallow in this, or go into detail - I'm steeling myself for the event.)
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I wish you well in that, plantsman.
rorschach, shrimpherd |
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Good luck to you, Plantsman.
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Rors, I've missed you late at night, but I'm sorry you haven't slept this night.
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Huge banners proclaimed "Proud to be Partners," and billboards read "President Bush in Albania Making History." Red-white-and-blue paper top hats with stars on top were passed out to well-wishers in this Balkan nation. Albania has such an affinity for America that it issued three postage stamps with Bush's picture and the statue of liberty.
Bush said he wants to encourage Albania's free society, but it also makes good political sense on the world stage for him to stop in Albania, if only for about seven hours, and be seen receiving a robust greeting in the predominantly Muslim country.
"I want to make sure the Albanian people understand that America knows that you exist and that you're making difficult choices to cement your free society," Bush said in a pre-trip interview. "I'm coming as a lover of liberty to a land where people are realizing the benefits of liberty."
I thought Bush and the Republicans didn't want Clinton to get involved in the Balkans?
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Happy Father's Day?
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Arthur J. GWPDA |
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Thanks guys - as a local friend noted, "What have you got to lose?"
plantsman, bemused |
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Rors, I've missed you late at night, but I'm sorry you haven't slept this night.
plantsman, bemused | Homepage | 06.10.07 - 6:42 am | #
I've been taking time away from here for sanity (and putting things together for my cool new job in the fall).
And, no worries. I can sleep through the day if I feel the desire.
rorschach, shrimpherd |
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Plantsman, that's what families are for. And while we don't like those phone calls, parents are used to them.
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rors, what job did you get in the fall?
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In this climate, the transit into summer is typically halting and fits-and-starts; maddeningly so. At the time of year when heating normally can be stopped and power bills go down a bit, this year we have a 14% rate increase and cool weather!
plantsman, bemused |
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What the hell is the computer doing on at this time of the day?
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GWPDA, Roving Historian |
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rors, what job did you get in the fall?
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I got a teaching gig at UW-Oshkosh. Three sections of writing in the fall, and then one of writing and one of literature in the spring.
Very cool.
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ql, thanks; I know - but I have this perfect sister who's incredibly successful who also wants to dictate how dad relates to me, and she has inherited malign and evil intent from family members.
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(Arthur was secretly blogging on it, GWPDA.)
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rors, that is cool! And it certainly helps sort out localities after you, Miriam and the kiddies move!
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Morning, all.
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Morning all.
Do I have anything fabulously witty to say this early?
Afraid not.

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rors, that is cool! And it certainly helps sort out localities after you, Miriam and the kiddies move!
plantsman, bemused | Homepage | 06.10.07 - 6:50 am | #
Indeed. I'm essentially riding Miriam's coattails on this one (though they wouldn't have hired me if I didn't have a solid scholarly record of my own, of course). So it works out very well.
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Yer Gravatar's back, Moe! ( How about some "garden-cam"?)
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Damn.
That explains the computer. What about the skillet?
GWPDA, Roving Historian |
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What about the skillet?
I'll have mine scrambled, thanks.
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I'll try to take pics today, plantsman. Everything's looking great out back, in the veggie garden, but I'm still working on the side herb garden. And multiple deadlines loom.
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Last evening, some one was looking for decent places to overnight in Asheville, NC - the only thing I had close at hand was the Asheville Art Museum, and it didn't seem quite right.
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Does anyone have any suggestions about how to remove a snuggly, willful cat from one's lap?
Otherwise I shall never get another cup of coffee.
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How do you convince family members that a certain one channels the spirit of someone(s) not long passed? My father's mother (and two of her sisters) live in my sister - I swear to Dog!
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The Rude Pundit today:
For, indeed, if there's one thing Fox "news" host and a man who once mistook a guy in Spongebob suit for a loofah, Bill O'Reilly, loves more than the pungent odor of his own armpits moist with outrage and bluster, it's strippers. One can be sure that, every few months, strippers will somehow make it onto his show. Sure, sure, sometimes it's in a "newsworthy" story like the Duke lacrosse team not raping a stripper, but often it's just an out-of-nowhere interview that makes one pause to ask, "What the fuck does this have to do with, well, fuck, anything?"
Such a moment occurred on last night's episode of the ongoing soap opera The O'Reilly Factor. There was no apparent reason that O'Reilly should interview just graduated University of Nebraska student Jenny Heineman about her senior thesis other than the fact that Heineman wrote about strippers. And she's a stripper. In Omaha. Which sounds sad, except when you realize that she could be a stripper across the river in Council Bluffs, Iowa.
So O'Reilly had Heineman on his show to ask her such scintillating questions as, "What is it that makes it fun for you?" and saying things like, "Come on. Be honest. You like it," which is roughly the same conversation that O'Reilly had with a Des Moines hooker while she was blowing him behind the Cow's Patty bar, with the hooker not able to answer because she was concentrating on putting O'Reilly's tiny, demi-hard wiggle worm in her mouth.
Sheer genius.

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In the Guardian today:
"On average, eight children are killed by guns every day in the United States. Gary Younge picked a day at random and investigated each case, for an article published in Saturday's Guardian Weekend magazine. He says shootings are so commonplace that they hardly warrant a mention in the US papers."
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Good morning peeps. The sun is shining, the birds are singing, the dogs are barking, the baby's crying.
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That explains the computer. What about the skillet?
GWPDA
Maybe he was going to make you breakfast?
Be grateful. Our cats won't even wash the dishes, much less offer to cook.
(PS - bite me, haloscan.)
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The fundies are just completely full of shit:
God Talk: Escaping the dating game through courtship
...Courtship came on my radar screen through an older and wiser friend of mine. Bill had a strong marriage and his children's marriages were also healthy. He explained the process of courtship which holds marriage as its ultimate goal.
The word courtship has curious origins passed down from the Middle Ages in Europe. Royal families would receive a ship from the fiancée upon her betrothal (pre-engagement).
The ship would be displayed in the courtyard prior to the engagement and wedding ceremony...
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Oh, so THAT'S what "courtship" means! Huh.
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So I'm sure everybody's aware that there was a mini-mini-Eschacon in NYC last night, in honor of the visiting fourlegsgood, who is (of course) a total doll.
I bring this up because in the immediate wake of the actual Eschacon in '05, many of us -- by which I mean me -- got really annoying, posting about the incredible sublimity of the event and how those of you who weren't there really missed out on the greatest moment of your life.
So far, however, I haven't seen a post about last night.
Good to know we've learned from our mistakes.
Have I mentioned fourlegs is a doll, BTW?

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Royal families would receive a ship from the fiancée upon her betrothal (pre-engagement).
The ship would be displayed in the courtyard prior to the engagement and wedding ceremony...
Moe Szyslak
Oh.
My.
God.
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I do not think it means what he thinks it means.
3.58am and it's 77F. Long story in the paper about illegal and unlicensed tapping into the Rio Verde, jeopardising the water run from Prescott thru Chino Valley and south. All to support another zillion identical tacky boxes to accomodate people from lord knows where to move in and complain about it not being like back home. You know, I've lived a lot of different places and I don't ever recall whinging as constantly as the 'newcomers' do to the Valley.
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The word courtship has curious origins passed down from the Middle Ages in Europe. Royal families would receive a ship from the fiancée upon her betrothal (pre-engagement).
The ship would be displayed in the courtyard prior to the engagement and wedding ceremony...
It'd be bad enough if the writer just made shit up. Worse, this nonsense is probably written in some fundie reference book. Conservapedia?
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Fourlegsgood is a doll, hmphf! Who's taking care of the kiddies?
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The poor girl:
Equipped with new information I began to explain to her my ideas on courtship. My family had to meet her right away, so I took Sharla to my parent's house. She earned their approval! Great; now it was time to meet her side of the family. I amazingly earned their endorsement and our courtship moved forward.
I was not totally satisfied that we were a match. I had a church family whose opinion meant a lot to me and I wanted their blessing to court Sharla. Our church sponsored an annual youth camp and most of the leaders and workers were involved. Sharla agreed to volunteer as a staff worker at the camp and my church leadership got to know her.
She passed inspection with flying colors and we began our courtship! I was in my mid-twenties and ready to settle down, but was cautious as we spent time together.
I was determined not to fall in love with the wrong woman who might keep me from marrying the right one.
After a few months of courting, which involved meeting at public places, going to church sponsored events, and spending lots of time with family, we began to form an attachment. I was convinced that Sharla was the woman for me! I went to her father and asked his permission to marry her. He said yes and I began to plan a proposal. For fun I made it into a kind of scavenger hunt with the first clue taped to the door of Sharla's apartment. She followed the instructions which lead her back to work, to a hotel lobby, and then to a restaurant where her sister was waiting. Each stop along the way offered a gift; a bouquet of flowers, a bottle of Champaign, and an unsigned card. At the restaurant Sharla met her sister who was helping me. This threw her off, but her sister took Sharla to the gazebo in front of Bidwell Mansion where I waited in the twilight just after sundown. As Sharla approached I struck a match and lit a candle.
On bended knee I asked Sharla to marry me and she said, "Yes!""and we kissed passionately. I had a camera set up, ready to flash a photo of the moment.
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fundies
phony control freaks who have no control over their own lives therefore want to control other people's
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Really Moe, they won't be happy till we regress back to the Puritan age.
I guess with women out of the work place there will be fewer workers and the men will get treated with the respect they feel they deserve.
Of course, I believe all they deserve is a swift kick in the nuts, but that's just me.
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Ain't nobody never holds no cons in honor of me, gol-durnit!
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cant wait til my ship comes in
come on and court me courtney
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Conservapedia is the rightwingnut response to Wikepedia, which they think is too secular!
Like everything the wingnuts do, it's batshit crazy, anti-scientific and exalting greed and selfishness, just like the real live Goopers!
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On "Senior Ditch Day" many, many moons ago, we 'tubed' from just above the confluence of the Verde and Salt Rivers to several miles below. My desperately fair skin had not been in sun for months - and the sunburn, reflected off the rivers' surface was so bad, the skin peeled from the front of my legs, and I could not walk for a few days.
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Moe, that stuff reads like soft porn for fundie teenage girls.
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More proof (as if it were needed) that Ann Althouse is fucking insane:
[a post today]
"We are not always in agreement with University of Wisconsin-Madison Law School Professor Ann Althouse, the Internet uber-blogger."
The Cap Times has an editorial...
The idea came from a reader...
They link to my blog, but not to the post, which begins: "John IMs me that question from his bar review class in Ithaca." I don't actually have readers in classes everywhere IMing me. John is my son.
She has a son?
Holy crap. There's a ticking time bomb waiting to go off....
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plantsman, I can't even bear to go up to Prescott any more - I don't want to add to the burden.
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Let's introduce Althouse's son to Phyllis Schlafly's son and see what develops.
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Funny how fundies give science that bored yawn until you start mentioning new weapon systems for killing people.
Then they light up like xmas trees!
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I wonder if Atrios remembered to set Wiley/Gizmo....
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I used to adore Prescott, and Jerome, and Granite Dells, and Route 89A - I think I'll keep those memories tightly held.
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Athenae had a killer post up a few months ago about Malkin's minions sitting in their basements, daydreaming of Malkin being in a tough situation and how they showed up just in the knick of time to rescue her. Sad little people with nothing special in their lives, so they have to make shit up. That's all the fundies are doing. trying to make themselves extraordinary when in reality they are just one more face in the crowd. I guess we all do it to some extent, but they literally have nothing that sets them apart except the conviction that jeebus loves them. As the movement has grown, the fantasies have to get more involved.
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The delusions of the wingnuts...
Books could be written.
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Somewhere in mid/Northern Arizona was a cinder cone, near perfectly formed, we climbed and explored - pueblos, ancient ones, too.
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I always thought that Phyllis Schlafly was demented dingbat.
I didn't realize that dingbat's could reproduce. Who would want to fuck a dingbat?
And of course the answer is: another dingbat, thereby producing dingbat offspring.
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Somewhere in mid/Northern Arizona was a cinder cone, near perfectly formed,
It was grand.
GWPDA, Roving Historian |
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In Schlafly's case, gay demented, wingnut offspring!
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Not wikipedia, but the whole "ship" thing is out there in fundie world, to be sure. They're nuts about it, of course:
Last week my friend Lara commented (in a phone conversation) on the recent trend for young couples to say, "We're courting" or even for a young woman to say, "I'm courting so-and-so." Lara -- the only other woman I know whose marriage resulted from an arranged courtship -- did not think this was a correct usage. Courting is active. The woman's role in a courtship is passive. Men court. Women are courted. The man is the subject of the verb. The woman is the object...
But to the extent that this usage indicates an egalitarian interchangeability of roles -- if the young women who say "I am courting..." or "we are courting..." are actually doing what their words suggest -- it would appear to be establishing a very poor precedent with which to enter marriage.
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The article discussed the other day about the WH hiring an additional nine lawyers (none from Regent, btw) was quite interesting. Who the fuck is picking up the bill. Haliburton, or us?
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Watch out for up and coming crazy congresswoman Michelle Bachmann. Her husband is a total closet case. There will be fun stories with those two
trifecta |
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Not in *conservapedia*...
Moe Szyslak |
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they literally have nothing that sets them apart except the conviction that jeebus loves them.
Now, I realize that as an atheist I know nothing about it, but I would think that the absolute conviction that Jesus loves me would be enough for my happiness. I guess it doesn't work that way.
Sad, really.
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It's a very good thing Mr. QL didn't want a passive partner.
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Michelle Bachmann's loony W-love was well-documented (by the estimable watertiger, among others) here; it was scary looking!
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It's a very good thing Mr. QL didn't want a passive partner.
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Ditto over here.
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Wingnuts are tolerable so long as they don't have any power.
Unfortunately, America has literally become an asylum run by the inmates.
Bushboy, Cheneychins and most of the Goopers in Congress, should be cutting out paper dolls and trying to fit round and square blocks into appropriate places.
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Oh, yeah, Al Wynn is a complete machine hack.
(I realize I'm commenting on the post downstairs.)
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Is it strange that I forsee in Arizona's future, great Dune-style wind-traps for water precipitation and generation?
plantsman, bemused |
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Wingnuts are tolerable so long as they are dead.
That's more like it.
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"We are not always in agreement with University of Wisconsin-Madison Law School Professor Ann Althouse, the Internet uber-blogger."
Hmm. I didn't know reality could write editorials.
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Is it strange that I forsee in Arizona's future, great Dune-style wind-traps for water precipitation and generation?
plantsman, bemused | Homepage | 06.10.07 - 7:25 am | #
GWPDA as Chani?
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Is it strange that I forsee in Arizona's future, great Dune-style wind-traps for water precipitation and generation?
plantsman, bemused
Tell me about the waters on your home planet, Usul.
smitty werbenmanjensen |
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Unreality seems to do a lot of writing, however.
plantsman, bemused |
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Do you all agree that Broder is quite the wanker today?
trifecta |
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Now, I realize that as an atheist I know nothing about it, but I would think that the absolute conviction that Jesus loves me would be enough for my happiness. I guess it doesn't work that way.
Sad, really.
Marcellina
just another thinly veiled garment worn by murderous racism
a sad excuse is more like it
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Froggie went a-courtin', and he did ride! (Uh-huh, uh-huh)
With a sword and a pistol by his side! (Uh-huh, uh-huh)
Well he rode up to Miss Mousey's door. (Uh-huh, uh-huh)
Gave three loud raps and a very big roar. (Uh-huh, uh-huh)
Said, "Miss Mouse, are you within?" (Uh-huh, uh-huh)
"Yes, kind sir, I sit and spin." (Uh-huh, uh-huh)
He took Miss Mousey on his knee. (Uh-huh, uh-huh)
Said, "Miss Mousey, will you marry me?" (Uh-huh, uh-huh)
"Without my uncle Rat's consent (Uh-huh, uh-huh)
I wouldn't marry the president! (Uh-huh, uh-huh)
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On Caladan, great bundles of moisture - like cotton wool, scud across the skies. And sometimes - these things leak water, which falls like tears upon the earth. We call this rain.
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Well, that's good to know.
Given the amusement gap since the departure of Susan Molinari and her gay hubby.
BTW -- when is somebody gonna definitively out that little shitheel Lindsay Graham(e)?
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Do you all agree that Broder is quite the wanker today?
trifecta
You had me at wanker.
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Diana! It's daddy!
I'm home from my trip to london and while I was there I met the man I'd like for you to meet and marry!
Diana darling come down and meet Dody!
He brought you a gift! A little boat of sorts
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All right. I'm too sleepy, too disgruntled and too hungry - I think I'll skip the lizard dance this morning and take myself out to breakfast.
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GWPDA, Roving Historian |
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Some guy writes about plastic shit.
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This about sums it up:
"The chief enemy you fight in choosing God's best will be your own strong inclination to make a good choice instead of a God choice.
"http://www.marriagemissions.com/premarriage/
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make a good choice instead of a God choice
heh.
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The article discussed the other day about the WH hiring an additional nine lawyers (none from Regent, btw) was quite interesting. Who the fuck is picking up the bill. Haliburton, or us?
ql was in ny
...and poor George has to make ends meet with a measly $400,000 a year salary!
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Uncle Smokes:
Uh-huh.

steve simels |
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Some guy writes about plastic shit.
Moe blogwhores like a *gasp*, Canadian might!
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Moe,
While I do agree with you that the plastic shit is everywhere, in its defense I would say that glass and metal have a tendency to sink. Thus, the glass and metal are at the bottom of bodies of water, instead of bobbing around at the top and washing ashore.
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'Morning, batsies.
I'm obsessed with the LOL thing; A href="http://lolpresident.com/">these are funny (better ones on subsequent pages).
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The chief enemy you fight in choosing God's best will be your own strong inclination to make a good choice instead of a God choice.
Considering all the freaky sons of bitches that God seems to be choosing for these people, I'd question his advice and go with whomever enjoys having a good time.
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Preview; it is my friend. I will remember this.
lolpresident
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No Byetta this morning? Hmmm.
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Well, certainly, smitty. I'd argue, though, that on balance, people tend to keep things made out of steel and metal, at least more so than the plastic shit, which is less valued and more easily skuttled.
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...and poor George has to make ends meet with a measly $400,000 a year salary!
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Yet another reason to elect Mitt Romney.
He's so rich he won't take the salary!!!
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Thus, the glass and metal are at the bottom of bodies of water, instead of bobbing around at the top and washing ashore.
smitty werbenmanjensen
Very bad for fish and birds. Birds get plastic bags and six-pack rings around their necks and beaks quite often.
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Yet another reason to elect Mitt Romney.
He's so rich he won't take the salary!!!
God will tell him it's always a good idea to have some walkin' around cash on you, just in case.
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OK, gotta start some work.
See youse.
smitty werbenmanjensen |
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If Romney is elected, will we have Osmonds in the cabinet?
Uncle Smokes |
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I don't think six pack rings are legal in Canada. At least, I've never seen them here.
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Yet another reason to elect Mitt Romney.
He's so rich he won't take the salary!!!
God will tell him it's always a good idea to have some walkin' around cash on you, just in case.
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Plus, he'll need to buy more golden plates so he can write another Book of Mormon.
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Other plastic things, like the soft joined rings that hold 6-packs of beer together, present dangers to deer and all sorts of wildlife.
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Smitty, another thing to keep in mind is that marine life gets tangled up in the plastic shit, or eats it and dies. Glass at the bottom of the sea is less of a danger.
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Simels.
Molinari's husband isn't gay. He just tripped and fell, and his dick got stuck in Britt Hume's dead gay son's rectum.
Totally accidental and not gay.
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I owe V a drink.
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syringes of plastic float much better than the old steel ones
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We've got *chemical weapons* rusting away on the harbour floor here. Lots of bombs, too.
Moe Szyslak |
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Susan Molinari could make *anyone* question his or her orientation!
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Trifecta on David Broder's latest (and predictable) offense against all that is holy
http://newpairodimes.blogspot.com/
I'm speechless...
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Some guy writes about plastic shit.
Moe Szyslak
I like reading that guy's stuff.
And I can't understand the philosophy of getting rid of stuff one doesn't need anymore that involves just chucking it overboard or out the car window. And women should not be flushing plastic tampon tubes!
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Simels.
Molinari's husband isn't gay. He just tripped and fell, and his dick got stuck in Britt Hume's dead gay son's rectum.
Totally accidental and not gay.
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I stand corrected.

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Trifecta on David Broder's latest (and predictable) offense against all that is holy
I saw the "Henry Kissinger and a host of other worthies" line and stopped right there. One doesn't need to smell the bullshit to know it exists.
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"Pearl girl, I'm a pearl girl....." (Thinks cutesy Tampax jingle...)
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Libby was convicted on the testimony of reporters from NBC, the New York Times and Time magazine -- a further provocation to conservatives.
Great argument.
You gonna take my word about the BJ or this disreputable hooker?
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With a Romney presidency, I look forward to his choice for Attorney General, and the wonderful ideas that will be promulgated, especially if the implementation is televised.
Our culture is now primed for this.
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Molinari's husband isn't gay. He just tripped and fell, and his dick got stuck in Britt Hume's dead gay son's rectum
Now, that's interesting. All the way up to his rectum.
He should have been doing pRon.
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Barndog - banned, seriously?
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There's a group of academics trying to map the harbour floor-- all the danger sites and such-- but they're getting resistance from the pols, who say that if that knowledge becomes public, the terrorists win, or something like that.
A drinking buddy of mine, 20-year navy guy, says there's a WWI shipwreck near the harbour entrance. For decades, incoming ships dropped their bad/unwanted bombs atop the wreck. There's thousands of them, just at the one spot. And that doesn't even include the hundreds of other spots around the harbour.
It's so bad, when they built the new sewer pipe out into the harbour, they wouldn't allow them to disrupt the floor, lest mustard gas get released. They instead put a metre deep bed of gravel down, then the pip on top of that.
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Broder:
"This whole controversy is a sideshow -- engineered partly by the publicity-seeking former ambassador Joseph Wilson and his wife and heightened by the hunger in parts of Washington to "get" Rove for something or other."
That's not writing, it's typing the talking points that have been hammered for, how long, now?
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Have I mentioned that fourlegsgood is a doll?

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Barndog, formerly banned
Hey! Great to see you!
V for Virginia |
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BD!
Moe Szyslak |
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A metre deep bed of gravel for a sewage outflow pipe is prolly an ok idea anyway.
plantsman, bemused |
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I was banned for a few days.
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How feels the spine, dood?
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Nah, sewer pipes can crack, that's okay. In fact, they're designed that way-- with periodic holes all along the length, so that the sewage doesn't come out all at one place.
Moe Szyslak |
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I'm speechless...
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Broder - Looks at his critics, takes a deep breath and says "Go fuck yourselves. I'm the dean of the Washington gasbag-ocracy".
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They instead put a metre deep bed of gravel down, then the pip on top of that.
Moe Szyslak
That is some scary shit, and it's smashing my fantasy of Canada as a more responsible steward of the environment, WAHHHHH!
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I was banned for a few days.
Why???
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Henry Kissinger
international arms dealer and murderous carnage peddler who's collection of death squad organizations is rivalled only by his public view successor Negroponte
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BTW -- I am gonna go out on a limb here and say that Fred Thompson will absolutely positively definitely be the Republican presidential candidate.
He's Rove's guy. End of story.
And I think he'll cream any Dem except Gore.
We're in trouble, folks.
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Have I mentioned that fourlegsgood is a doll?
steve simels
Have you been up all night?
these kids today, I swear . . . :>)
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Comments are turned on at the bottom of the Op-Ed.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
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That is some scary shit, and it's smashing my fantasy of Canada as a more responsible steward of the environment, WAHHHHH!
V for Virginia
My sense is that states and localities down there do better than provinces and cities here, in Atlantic Canada. Neither does especially great, of course.
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Come to think of it, the harbour around Norfolk is also full of all sorts of scary military shit.
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