I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Beautiful....plenty of recommendations and things to say, but nuthin to back any of it up!
Precious!
Numbers do the Devil's work.
Facts are stupid things.
Proving, once and for all, that the devil IS, in fact, in the details.
The Bible says it, I believe it, and that settles it.
Maybe it's To Be Constructed: still, it's a bit of an oops. No, strike that, a lot of an oops.
"Pursuant to a policy established by the 1972 Anti-Ballistic Missile (ABM) Treaty with the former Soviet Union, the peopoe of the United States are vulnerable . . ."
peopoe is in danger! OMG Nooooo!
There are "facts" listed on the downloadable pocket card, but no figures.
Figures are classified of course.
Facts are too.
And the Missile Threat to National Security? Right there with Saddam's WMD.
"the peopoe of the United States are vulnerable to missile strikes."
I like to get my fear-science from "peopoe" who can't use spell-check
Beautiful....fuzzy math, anyone?
Facts? we don't need no stinkin' facts.
Fox, we need fox.
You should be nice, Atrios. The folks at the Heritage Foundation read your blog--somebody from heritage.org clicked through to my site from a trackback on one of your posts. Try not to hurt their feelings and for jeebus' sake, don't go talking about facts and stuff!
monkeys with guns in space, pointed back at themselves. adds new meaning to command and control.
i'd like to work some spiral development management policies on these fn boneheads.
Why fill W's pretty head with facts?
What happened to Ashcroft's plan to schedule the Rapture so ascending souls deflect the incoming missiles?
Bahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
guffaw!
The sun goes around the earth. Just look out the window every morning.
Common sense.
the peopoe of the United States...
Only Hawaiians?
OT, but god damn, I love Illinois.
Bush on the ballot? Nah. Why bother.
Heh heh heh.
A.
the peopoe of the United States are vulnerable
You see? We must preserve our essence! Our essential boldily fluids are being poisoned by the terrorists! Have you ever seen a terrorist drink a glass of water? Well, have you?
Reminds me of Jethro Bodine doing his "cyphering".
"1+1=2, 2+2=4, 4+4=8, 8+8=, gotta take my shoes off to keep going."
OT: CNN reporting that Kerry says he will announce his VP choice in a matter of days.
Everybody knows that SpellCheck is the Devil working a "spell".
Only those filled with the Spirit should correct God's chosen words, not a machine.
Facts are simple and facts are straight
Facts are lazy and facts are late
Facts all come with points of view
Facts don't do what I want them to
Facts just twist the truth around
Facts are living turned inside out
Facts are getting the best of them
Facts are nothing on the face of things
Facts don't stain the furniture
Facts go out and slam the door
Facts are written all over your face
Facts continue to change their shape
I'm still waiting...I'm still waiting...I'm still waiting...
I'm still waiting...I'm still waiting...I'm still waiting...
I'm still waiting...I'm still waiting...
Jack Tripper,
Would be ROTFLMAOWTIME if only it weren't so close to the truth.
Bat Guano:
OK, but if you're wrong, you're gonna hafta answer to the Coca-Cola company!
My eyes!!!
Print.... too fine... not worth knowing what Republicans think...
ooh, ooh, secularhuman, only a few more days to nurse my fantasy of McCain/Kerry bipartisan American Hero love before reality comes crashing down on all my fantasies.
Which are purely political, of course. The fantasies. They have to do with politics.
Totally.
I'm sorry, what was the topic again?
A.
"Pursuant to a policy established by the 1972 Anti-Ballistic Missile (ABM) Treaty with the former Soviet Union, the peopoe of the United States are vulnerable to missile strikes. Since the U.S. withdrew from the ABM Treaty in June 2002, that vulnerability is coming to an end."
So simply by abandoning the treaty, our "vulnerability is coming to an end". WahHoo! We are declared safe! No need to actually deploy a working system then, right? So no need for those pesky facts and figures.
hey, once you've got your talking points, why clutter it up with distractions. they'll just make them up as needed anyhow
If we didn't need missile defense to protect us from sophisticated twenty-third century Moslem fanatics, we would certainly need it anyway to protect us from godless MARTIANS!!! (Which is what I thought they were going to claim before 9-11 conveniently got in the way).
Reminds me of a line from a medical claims form I filled out years ago...
It is against the law to report facts that are false.
The facts and figures are "SLAMDUNKS", therefore why waste the packets to transmit them to the people.
OT: CNN reporting that Kerry says he will announce his VP choice in a matter of days.
Yesssssss! Dude, I'm totally pumped for Dick Gephardt. That guy really gets my motor running! Vroooooooom!
Maybe the facts and figures come from the distinguished Chalabi Research Institute for Advanced Science.
Surprised? If I recall, isn't this a criticism of Heritage from Alterman's book? Big on talking points, light on evidence. Nothing peer reviewed.
it's a faith-based missile defense system. That's why there are no facts nor figures.
Old Hat-
Please tell me that was sarcasm. Please.
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cheney_usa - Ah, good point. That's where the problem lies - they called it spell check. They probably think it is run by Hogwarts Academy, and god knows that Harry Potter is Satan's spawn.
ha ha. that was a good one
Imagine if these folks writ the Constitution:
We the Peopoe of the Untied States, in odor to form a more perfect Onion...
Please tell me that was sarcasm. Please.
Helllllll no! When Kerry picks a dynamic, exciting individual that the youth can relate to like Dick Gephardt, I'm going to be running down the halls at work in slow-motion, high fiving everyone and totally having fun! I'm going to throw 50 Cent on the boombox and crack open a case of Bacardi and party like it's my birthday!
Boo-yah!
Dubya,
"Shit! I thought it was the ATM treaty!"
Weapons of mass deductions...
Hey, speaking of that CapHillBlue article on Dubya losing control, he was uncharacteristically late for his meeting with the Pope today.
That's a no-no when meeting the Pope.
"The institution of marriage is overwhelmingly beneficial to children, adults, and society; but for more than 50 years, government policy has discouraged marriage. There is now a broad consensus that this trend should be reversed and that government should promote healthy marriage. Marriage promotion has the potential to significantly decrease poverty and dependence while increasing child well-being and adult happiness."
"But the Administration has concluded correctly that Yasser Arafat is part of the problem, not part of the solution: As long as he remains in power, little progress is possible. The Administration’s call for the Palestinians to develop an alternative, democratic leadership is a great improvement over the wishful thinking of the Clinton Administration."
God, this Heritage site is responsible for a spike in my blood pressure. Know your enemy, indeed...
OT: CNN reporting that Kerry says he will announce his VP choice in a matter of days.
I am going to wager that Kerry will pick someone that will completely piss off Dem voters.
I wish it would be McCain, I'd like it to be Clark, and I could live happily with Dean. Why do I think it will be Gephardt or Bayh?
Facts are written all over your face
Facts continue to change their shape
I'm still waiting...I'm still waiting...
David Byrne
Hey David, I saw at This London that some member of a Clash tribute band in England attempted to text the lyrics of Tommy Gun to another member. However, he sent it to the wrong number and the secret service dropped by for a visit!
Facts are simple and facts are straight
Facts are lazy and facts are late
Facts all come with points of view
Facts don't do what I want them to
Facts just twist the truth around
Facts are living turned inside out
Damn, Smarty, I thought you'd be training, not trolling for Heads lyrics!
I am going to wager that Kerry will pick someone that will completely piss off Dem voters.
I'm afraid you're right, but ever optimistic, I'll hope that Kerry surprises us. If he picks, Gephardt, blogging ain't gonna be much fun until the shouting dies down.
So, is the Illinois ballot flap really something Dems should want? Is Illinois in any danger of actually going red?
Wouldn't it be better just to let Bush get the brutal electoral fisting he deserves, far 'n' skwar?
Smitty,
I thought you were buried out in Floater's Cemetery???
Shit, ignore me, I'm late to the party.
scribeboy - that marriage blather is really offensive. The federal government has no business getting involved in marriage from any angle. I realize it is aimed at same sex marriage, but it is just as wrong when applied to hetero marriage. It's just flat none of their fucking business.
Smitty,
David Byrne posted those earlier. I just repsponded with the Clash story. Sorry I didn't make that clear.
About Melvin Sembler, Ambassador to Italy, where Bush stayed:
True Bushie
Here were the offending Tommy Gun lyrics...
SO LET'S AGREE ABOUT THE PRICE AND MAKE IT ONE JET AIRLINER FOR TEN PRISONERS."
OT- Hey Smarty!
So you thought that piccy of Team Holden should be photoshopped? Here ya go!
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I'll hope that Kerry surprises us.
Shit, the last time Kerry surprised me was when he won in Iowa. Otherwise he's the same boring block of man-shaped bullshit that us MA residents have gotten plenty sick of long before this election.
But I'd take him over Bush in a flash while sending a resounding F-You to the coffee shop Naderites.
And "Download a Printer-friendly Pocketcard" of that crap?
Bwahahahahahahaa!
Like people collect policy talking points from the Heritage Foundation?
Do you collect and trade them? Do you play board games with them? "BattleStar 'Conservata'" or something?
Geez, I am really unconnected from this younger generation . . .
spork_incident, great picture! Looks just like them. Holden looks good in green. 
Facts are biased and confusing.
Why so concerned Fox and Figurines?
spork_incident
that's too damn funny!
they are a bunch of cuties, aren't they?
Fred Woolsey:
Now I have to explain to every one in my office why I just burst out laughing.
From the folks at Heritage USA:
It also means adopting a streamlined management structure for the missile defense program.
Translation: No-bid contracts for Bechtel and other Bushistas.
From Spies Like Us:
"When we hired the Schmechtel Corporation..."
Hey, speaking of that CapHillBlue article on Dubya losing control, he was uncharacteristically late for his meeting with the Pope today.
That's a no-no when meeting the Pope.
WWDT
Emperor trumps Pope, no? BTW, google US ambassador to Italy, Marvin Sembler. Maybe Prince Bushdar found Marvin's penis pump and couldn't get it off.
Dubya:
"Penis pump? That's not my bag, baby!"
As a somewhat side issue: wouldn't a limited missile defense help protect against the occasional stray "rogue missile."?
Neil,
No...it would only work against limited missiles.
But the facts are biased. The facts clearly have an anti-Bush agenda.
Neil - It is my understanding that so far no missile defense system has tested successfully. In other words, they don't work.
If I'm mistaken about that I have absolutely no doubt that someone will correct me.
Neil:
Maybe if the missle had a homing beacon in it so our missles can find it destroy it. That is the only way the military has got it to work so far.
I believe the NY Pravda ombudsman Okrent says the facts aren't balanced.
Likely the Figures aren't either.
Reminds me of a Doonesbury comic based on a Reagan campaign ad...
(Little Girl Speaking
Girl: President Reagan wants to keep us safe. That's why he's building the Peace Shield! Oops...one got through! Bye!
Missile defense is like trying to keep the ground dry by catching every raindrop before it touches earth. Good luck!
And a missile defense doesn't protect against at least one delivery system considered by Teller at Los Alamos: "Backyard"
All your Plutonium are belong to us.
I recall hearing that copies of Pravda were used as toilet paper by ingenious Russians who would otherwise have to...never mind. Anyway, when someone had finished relieving themselves of several kilos of borscht and blinis, they would say something like (in Russian, of course), "That was a real Pravda!" I wonder how many sheets equal one Sunday Times?
OT: CNN reporting that Kerry says he will announce his VP choice in a matter of days.
False alarm. Kerry says he was joking:
John Kerry told a Detroit radio station on Friday he'd name his running mate "in a matter of days," throwing the Washington rumor mill into high gear. Later in the day, he grinned when told that his interview was taken seriously.
"All you have you do is listen to it," Kerry said aboard his campaign plane. "It was plain (that it was a joke). Don't ever write about me being dour and sober and somber."
"There is no announcement imminent," Kerry spokeswoman Stephanie Cutter said. "And we won't have more to say on the subject until Senator Kerry makes a decision on who is the best possible running mate."
http://tinyurl.com/2e5d9
So your political blue balls will have to find some other release in the meantime.
The Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists has had excellent coverage of the obscenely treasonous corruption of the nuke industry, bribing regulators to permit vulnerability to terrorist takeover.
I wrote the Governor, being a citizen of Illinois about how the Republicans want to be able to add Bush's name to the November ballot after the deadline.
I oppose any measures to allow President Bush and the Republican party to circumvent Illinois law by allowing the Republican party to add Bush's name to the November election ballot after the deadline set by Illinois law.
We are a nation and a state of laws, not men. If the Republican Party cannot nominate their candidate of choice for President by the time set forth by law in this State, then they forfit their chance to add their candidate's name to the Illinois ballot. This is a simple matter of holding every party and candidate to the same standards. Allowing the Republican party the priveledge of cicumventing the law when it suits them is a dangerous, dangerous precendent. We cannot allow or abide lawlessness and surely even the Republican party can understand this.
I implore the Governor to stand firm for the rule of law and oppose any exceptions for any party. Make a commitment in stark contrast of the lawlessness and corruption of the Ryan years. We, as citizens of this great State and this great Nation are looking to you for leadership and honor. I thank you for you time.
For actual facts and figures, see the American Physical Society report on the feasibility of national missle defense. Hint: It's not favorable.
BTW, not that I think Bush won't appear on the November ballot. But if his name didn't appear it would be such a wonderful tweak of his and the Rethuglican party noses!
Missile Defense isn't in the feasibility question range, it's not possible, and even if it were, it is completely useless anyway because it presupposes that someone would forego boxcutters, our undefended nuke power plants, various gaping low-tech holes and of course the old fashioned "missile defense", MAD.
Why does the Heritage Foundation hate people with bifocals?
About religion......
SOurces and studies show.......
At a size I can actually read..!!!!
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Churchgoers tend to live longer. Studies show “those who attend church more than once a week were expected to live another 62.9 years,” which is seven years longer than the life expectancies of those who never attend church.1
Religious practice is related to emotional health. Research suggests “after gender (girls are more likely to attempt suicide than boys), religiousness is the second strongest inhibitor of…suicide attempts.”2
Church attendance can be a predictor of family stability. Those children who, "at age 18, attend religious services with approximately the same frequency as their mothers," have "significantly better relationships" with their mothers 5 years later, as reported by the mothers.3
Married couples benefit from religious practice. Studies have linked more frequent church attendance to lower levels of divorce proneness.4
Couples that pray together, stay together—happily. Married couples that pray together respect each other more, trust each other more, and are more helpful to each other around the house. 5In fact, one study found “75 percent of those who pray say that the marriage is very happy, as opposed to 57 percent of those who do not pray.”6
Research shows that regular church attendance can reduce the likelihood of violence toward a spouse.7
Fathers who attend church are more involved with their family. Studies show that religion is related to levels of paternal involvement in “one-on-one engagement, dinner with one's family, and volunteering for youth-related activities." In fact, "religion appears to make a unique contribution to paternal involvement” in the “specific attention that religious institutions dedicate to family life.”8
Religious faith remains strong among America’s youth. The Institute for Youth Development reports that “94 percent of teenagers say they believe in God” and “nearly 9 in 10 teens consider their religious beliefs important to them.”9
Students who attend church regularly tend to perform better in school. In a study of 10th-graders, “higher levels of involvement in church activities likely signifies…a motivation toward education that leads to better math and reading skills.”10
Religious practice has positive effects for people of all ages. College students who scored high on a "spiritual well-being" scale, compared with their lower-scoring counterparts, exhibited healthier psychosocial profiles in areas of self-esteem, loneliness, marijuana use, alcohol use, and feelings of hopelessness.11
Most Americans approve of faith-based groups working in their community. A Gallup poll found that almost 70 percent of respondents “believe that faith-based organizations do the best job of helping youth in the community.”12
The work of faith-based organizations in reaching at-risk youth is essential. Results from the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescen
From their "Talking Points" on taxes -- note: not FACTS!
Many small businesses and family farms are destroyed by its penalty, which distorts incentives and hurts families.
I'd like to challenge them to come up with one actual example of EACH that was "destroyed".
Heritage Foundation as in Mousey Nazi Paul Weyrich?
the dead guy who built my house still gets fait, glossy mailings from the HF. i tear it up in little strips and stuff it into the postage paid donation envelope.
any of you ever look at their prospecti/mail come-ons? something about it screams "freemasons" to the hagbard celine in me..........
About benefits of marriage and religion on well-being:
it was statistically proven that playing golf regularly is positively correlated with income. The connection is statistically much stronger than with the marital status or with participation in a religion. We can reduce poverty by promoting golf among the nation poor.
More seriously, a thing about more spiffy version of missile defence: so-called boost-phase defence would require very rapid decision making, so decision whether to send missile to strike over the alien territory would be relegated to computer programs.
It is also estimated that no large software system works properly without being intensively used for a year, to discover all bugs. Thus the first 20-40 times the missile defence may be rather disappointing, but afterwards, it will be almost perfect; few missed attacks, few countries obliterated by mistake. To go around this tiny problem the military solicits research proposals for "novel principles of [verifiably correct] software design", which are out there together with unified field theory and thermonuclear power stations.
In Oceania at the present day, Science, in the old sense, has almost ceased to exist. In Newspeak there is no word for 'Science.'
--George Orwell, 1984
The worse thing about nuclear power plants is hearing all the tales of graft, corruption, laziness and sheer sloppiness - followed by coverup - from people who worked on *building* the damn things.
They're *not* safe. They're built by capitalists. They never were.
And people whose only goal is to make lots and lots of money don't care about what it does to other people somewhere else. Smeltries, chemical manufacture plants, nuclear waste - it doesn't matter.
"Burn, baby, burn!"
--Enron employees.
another faith based initiative
[I]"Pursuant to a policy established by the 1972 Anti-Ballistic Missile (ABM) Treaty with the former Soviet Union, the peopoe of the United States are vulnerable to missile strikes. Since the U.S. withdrew from the ABM Treaty in June 2002, that vulnerability is coming to an end."[/I]
Sometimes, I wish the trust-fund interns working, along with the resident "scholars" at that think tank would all be sent to Eye-Rack.
would it be cheaper to start flshing money down a toilet?
Yeah, you sneer now, but when the Kree and the Skrulls attack, you'll be whistling a different tune!
In this age where the threat is from highly-motivated people waking into poplulated areas with several pounds of semtex strapped to their bodies (just to use one example), I'm still waiting for any of the wingnuts in government or the media to explain how a missle defense system is supposed to make the US safer? Missle defense might have made sense 20 or 30 years ago when the threat was primarily from the Soviet Union, but this is no longer the case. There's an entirely new type of threat now but I don't that the neocons in the Bush regime understand that. After all, why should we let stupid things like facts get in the way of the "conservatives" efforts to shovel oodles of money to defense contractors?
OT:
www.michaelmoorehatesamerica.com
some fukin putz called wilson or something like that is mad at the stories Michael tells us in his documentaries...specifically he was pissed at the columbine movie where the little girl was killed and her mother it was said worked 2 jobs - implying that the mother working 2 jobs contributed to the fact that the child was killed...
this guy gets as much press as michael moore simply because he is fighting a progressive - it was on google news this am!
Fight The Power - Fight The Power That Be
Keep in Mind that NONE of the Missile Defense tests have worked- even early ones riggen not to fail. This s*** doesn't work people. The only time I ever saw it work was in an episode of 'Battlestar Galactica:1980' when the Earth was saved by the freakin' Galactica.
Have you seen the Galactica around lately? I didn't think so.
While missile-to-missile defense systems don't work at all, ever, there HAS been a successful test of a missile-defense system, one that's much more dangerous to have set up...
the Tactical High Energy Laser system. Here's a BBC article about it, right now it's just the ground-based system, designed for taking down Katyusha rockets. It's going to be deployed in Israel very soon.
Rumsfeld is pushing for money to develop a more powerful space-based version, a full-scale orbital laser cannon array.
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