I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
I'm moving 600 miles in 2 weeks. Any tips or advice, espacially for speeding up the cable guy?
You're having Jim Carrey over? Cool.
We'll see you next Thursday when the cable guy finally shows up
Can you set up a bunch of open threads, so that we don't continue to ramble on existing ones, going wildly off-topic (in a fun kinda way), but making threads reach record-setting lengths...
Also, Atrios, did you ever reach a decision about whether or not to set up a P.O. Box or some other some-such set-up for checks & money orders to support Eschaton? I've been waiting to hear, and if it's too difficult for you that's OK, we'll go one of the other routes. Mr. Kate and I were just hoping to hear your decision on that matter.
If people start jonesing, you could come over to my place and party. I'll buy beer.
No, I was never really popular in high school, either...
Good luck. Each move is a benchmark, a new chapter heading, so relish the details and remember, you're composing your narrative with each quibble, kvetch, belly-laugh and hug.
Yes, Atrios, good luck, indeed.
cs must have had more fun moving than I have...hope your move is just like that, with laughs and hugs. As opposed to the royal pain in the butt we've always found it to be. Take extra Vitamin C!
I packed my goat's fudge last night before my trip. He likes it tightly packed.
two moves equals one fire, sam clemmens i believe.
J.T.
If we break things over here, then we could always invade that Grok-girl's blog again. See how the teaching's going, now the dirty newspaper guys have said such bad things about 9/11.
we could always invade that Grok-girl's blog again.
Oh yeah, she's got some good stuff today:
By ignoring the growing threat that these Islamists pose, by turning a blind eye to the videos and photos they themselves take of their murders, I too fear we might ultimately lose the War on Terror. Or not have the fortitude to see it through. As Seppo said: "What is it that the networks believe we've lost in 60 years? What values and strengths held by my grandfather do I not have? And who in the hell gave them the right to make that judgement for me?"
Speaking of Mrs. Grok, she links approvingly to a boneheaded complaint about a reporter asking a question:
here's a question to the President from a White House reporter I know only as "Deb."
Mr. President, why does the administration continue to insist that Saddam had a relationship with al Qaeda, when even you have denied any connection between Saddam and September 11th. And now the September 11th Commission says that there was no collaborative relationship at all.
The reporter commits several logical fallacies and falsehoods.
Then Jason Van Steenwyk provides a stunning display of stupidity that proves he wouldn't know a fallacy or a falsehood if it bit him in his cognitive dissonance.
Old Hat, below you linked to a Hitchens article. Sorry, but he's still a rotten piece of dogcrap. I couldn't get past the part where we all have this collective guilt. Fuck that. Hitchens is guilty all by himself.
Sorry I can't help with the move. So here's my new home gift: the music I play whenever we move. Sorry only part lyrics. Best, funniest song about moving ever written.
I'm gonna go to the supermarket
I'm gonna go to the liquor store
I'm gonna get me some cardboard boxes
You know what them boxes are for
I'm gonna rent me a U-Haul trailer
Hook it on the back of my old car
Call up some of my stronger buddies
That's what your strong buddies are for
We're gonna move
We're gonna move
-"Cardboard Boxes", Loudon Wainwright III from
"I'm Alright" on Rounder Records1986
Good luck, Mister and Missus Smith and the Atri-Kitties.
No guest blogger during the hefting and schlepping and waiting for the cable guy?
Put Tena in charge till the cable guy arrives?
thanks for the mini vacation while you guys work your butts off and make sure you know where you kitties are.
Please please please let Tena open some new threads while you're moving!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We can't go two days without Eschaton!
NTodd - d'you suppose it's the same 'Deb' in Shrub's notes? You know the one designated as a question-feeder?
Good luck with the move, Sid... um, Atrios.
Science Friday was right, a derth of snarkism looms. An obvious plot.
Two versions of the Putin story are in the nations morning papers. One with the State department statement saying they've never heard this, the other not. Another major error by the nations press.
Too fuckin lazy to get ANY feddback or followup on the story. Were now taking orders from Pravda.
Dude -
get thee to a cybercoffeeteria.
The cable guy won't actually show up 'til July 7th, tap on the door with a feather while you're in the loo, and bugger off 'til September.
Good luck with the move, take good care of the kitties.
Blast from the Past:
Copyright 2000 Daily News, L.P.
Daily News (New York)
September 14, 2000
HEADLINE: MCCAIN STEPS UP FOR W. He'll hit key states, make rounds on TV
BODY:
WASHINGTON - The struggling presidential campaign of George W. Bush has asked former rival John McCain to ride to the rescue in the stretch-run battle for independent voters.
Top aides to the Arizona GOP senator said yesterday that they were working with Bush operatives in Austin, Tex., on scheduling appearances for McCain with the Texas governor in such tossup states as Michigan - which McCain won during the primaries.
Bush spokesman Dan Bartlett said the campaign had planned all along to work McCain hard in the final weeks, but the scheduling was "put on hold" when the senator underwent successful skin cancer surgery last month.
McCain seemed his usual feisty self at a series of Senate hearings this week, and he planned to hit the TV talk shows for Bush on Sunday before going on the road for congressional candidates and the Bush ticket in the coming weeks, a top aide said.
Congressional Republicans have been griping that their hold on majorities in the House and Senate could be threatened by a resurgent Al Gore, who now leads beyond the margin of error in some national polls and has pulled even in Florida.
Hmmm Tom Tomorrow and Atrios...moving at the EXACT SAME TIME...I smell conspiracy, where's Ken Starr when you need him?
Didn't you have a killer guest poster last December? What ever happened to him? I'll bet he's still available.
I'm just throwing this out. Last night my husband, who's a big time NASCAR fan, and who races with other big time NASCAR fans online, directed me to one of their online forums. Although generally these guys just talk about racing, this particular thread started out asking what everyone thought about Bush v. Kerry in November. At first I resisted reading the thread out of consideration for my blood pressure, since I figured the thread would be filled to bursting with wingnuts. Turns out that while one of the commentators was a card-carrying dittohead (Motto: "Don't confuse me with facts"), many of the other participants are planning to vote for Kerry. And a number of these volunteered that they're Republicans. It seems that Bush's plan to win over the NASCAR dads isn't going as well as it might either.
I thought McCain was one of the few honest republicans left. Guess I was wrong.
Hmmm Tom Tomorrow and Atrios...moving at the EXACT SAME TIME...I smell conspiracy, where's Ken Starr when you need him?
And Josh Marshall on vacation at the same time too.
If Kos were away too, well, I just wouldn't want to imagine ...
Bet you wish you had a car now..
Wingnuts and Repukes are the same.
They all must share in the blame
For the fucking mess
They've caused the U.S.
It's too late for the "separate" game.
Atrios is moving in with Tom Tomorrow?
European press reporting via WaPo that Condi's deputy, Fran Townsend, went to Abu Ghraib in November to urge harsher treatment of Iraqis to extract information.
Perky blonde on dirty business.
WASHINGTON, June 18 — The leaders of the Sept. 11 commission called on Vice President Dick Cheney on Friday to turn over any intelligence reports that would support the White House's insistence that there was a close relationship between Saddam Hussein and Al Qaeda.
The commission's chairman, Thomas H. Kean, and its vice chairman, Lee H. Hamilton, said they wanted to see any additional information in the administration's possession after Mr. Cheney, in a television interview on Thursday, was asked whether he knew things about Iraq's links to terrorists that the commission did not know.
wo crucial rationales used by President Bush to justify a pre-emptive strike against Saddam Hussein have crumbled. Now it falls to the American people to judge whether the war was sold on falsehoods or wishful exaggerations.
One goes to the credibility and veracity of the White House and the other to fundamental competence to manage the might of a superpower.
None of the justifications invoked by the administration before and after the war, and as recently as this week by Vice President Cheney, has survived bipartisan scrutiny.
Kos's site is not accessible this morning...
Kos's site is not accessible this morning...
I just got there and I'm using dial-up!
"Atrios is moving in with Tom Tomorrow?" Not only that, but he's going on the bus. With the catrios and Mrs. Jolly, jolly, fun, fun! Dr. Mrs. Tomorrow will be joining them later on.
Ack! The Cable Guy? When you have a chance to switch to DSL?? Madness!
Cable degrades as the number of users on a given line rises. DSL has no such problem.
Cable goes down like a cheap w... uh, like an escalator. DSL doesn't.
Oh well.
Scorpio
Eccentricity
We'll see you next Thursday when the cable guy finally shows up
Toes
personally, i've been waiting since tuesday for my cable guy, until now i've never been properly happy with DSL.
Put Tena in charge till the cable guy arrives?
anonymous in nc |
Anyone seen Tena around lately? I haven't -- just wondering...
HOUSTON (Reuters) - U.S. Senator and possible Democratic vice presidential candidate John Edwards (news - web sites) blasted the Bush administration on Friday for the chaotic aftermath of the Iraq (news - web sites) war and said President Bush (news - web sites), not his underlings, is to blame.
"If you look at what's happening, there's a lot of discussion and debate around the country about Don Rumsfeld and whether the secretary of defense should be fired and whether he should resign," Edwards said in a fiery speech to the Texas Democratic Party annual convention.
"Let me say this very simply -- the person who is responsible is the commander in chief," he said to loud applause from the enthusiastic crowd in Bush's home state.
I've been in contact with Tena. All's well. She's been busy.
Actually, she has posted recently, but not a frequently as she has in the past.
It is now pretty well established (911 commission strongly hinted) that Cheney gave the 'shoot the planes' order by himself without talking with Bush and they both lied to 911 commission that Bush gave the go-ahead to Cheney to give the order. But they were not under oath.
Now, is it not a crime to lie to federal officials even if one is not under oath?
Isn't that how Martha Stewart got into trouble, when she lied to SEC investigators even though she was not under oath? Can a lawyer-type enlighten us on this?
Tena spends most of the summer in Colorado, and doesn't post with the same frequency.
ecoast- IOKIYAR
ecoast- the procedure for shooting down planes had been changed a few months before 9/11, wherein the sec of defense was to give that order.
On 9/11 Rummy did not know LOL about attacks until pentagon hit.
mdhatter -
Cable is great. I always stuck with DSL because I thought the service would degrade as more and more people came on. but times and systems have changed and I believe this is no longer the case. Phone companies have not kept up and the cable industry in most cases has perfected the technology. I get my internet access at warp speed and there has been no problem. Also, when you need assistance they practically pick it up on the first ring. I think you will be pleased.
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If y'all are bored, today's chronology of events in Iraq is posted on my homepage.
oronto Star - 6 hours ago
KABULWarlords have overrun a provincial capital in central Afghanistan, forcing the governor to flee, in the latest challenge to President Hamid Karzai's authority in a country which Amnesty International warns is facing outright civil war.
Province security chiefs vow to retake Afghan town Reuters AlertNet
Bush on Tuesday
WASHINGTON -- President George W. Bush called Afghanistan the "first victory in the war on terror" on Tuesday,
It never ceases to amaze how dumb Dems are and appear to be getting dumber.
Why oh why did Dems go along with the Macain scam? Big John is a Repuke and will remain a Repuke. Only Dems are of the turncoat variety.
Now it will seem Kerry is taking a lesser Dem as VP when scorned by the best.---A REPUBLICAN.....
No Democratic nominee should appoint or select a fcukin Repuclican for any post. If they are a Republican they are a piece of shit----pure and simple. Will Dems wake up in our lifetime?
Broosky called Kerry a Castro supporter today -- anyone see it?
nur al-cubicle, cool homepage
Atrios - Remember to lift with your knees, not your back.
Anon,
Generalizations as you presented are exactly why the 'bad guys' are able to rally even the most commonsensical folks to them. But then I realize your comments are likely a troll. Partisanship is good when layered with a bit of wisdom and as said commonsense. Democrats do not have all the answers. Neither do the Republicans have all the answers. Constructive debate can provide good results. Unfortunately, what I see from the hard core extreme side of the Republican party, if I can call those folks actually Republicans is an effort to eliminate debate, choice and the sieve of elections in context to the times. But it equally pains me when I see heavy handed tactics from Dems or others and in a sense doing the same thing.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp...-
2004Jun19.html
or
http://tinyurl.com/2mx69
The Washington Post is beginning a three-part post-mortem on the Iraq occupation tomorrow. Short version of the first page: it's all been downhill since the end of the war. The Army blames the CPA. The CPA blames the Army. (Both are run by the Pentagon...gee, I wonder who's in "superbly" charge of that department?) Bremer cites as his most comforting accomplishment the making of Iraq more business-friendly, i.e., lowering tax rates, etc. What the..?
We will eat all these cocksuckas if you throw them over the fence!
I'm the only one in my house that uses Comcast, so my connection kicks serious booty!
BlakNo1- agreed, I love my comcast cable.
OT, but Steve Gilliard is trying to raise money for a new laptop so he can cover the Dem convention... frankly, I can't imagine a blogger I'd rather see posting from there. If you agree, help the guy out.
... meanwhile the WaPo Story about Condi's assistant, a WHITE HOUSE OFFICIAL going to Abu Ghraib last year is buried deep on their site, and I couldn't find it on MSNBC.com, their partner site at all.
Also, Tom Tomorrow catches the NYT at another blatant misrepresentation.
Toronto Star - 6 hours ago
KABUL -- Warlords have overrun a provincial capital in central Afghanistan, forcing the governor to flee, in the latest challenge to President Hamid Karzai's authority in a country which Amnesty International warns is facing outright civil war.
Province security chiefs vow to retake Afghan town Reuters AlertNet
Bush on Tuesday
WASHINGTON -- President George W. Bush called Afghanistan the "first victory in the war on terror" on Tuesday
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!
Good luck.
And on that note-
If all goes well, I'll be moving 1800 miles, TO CANADA! I'm even getting ready to file my immigration application papers.
Yippee, hug a moose.
Mr. Nobody, welcome to Canada. Whereabouts are you headed? East or west, maple syrple is the best.... Good chap tho - Grandmother Country is very, very happy to welcome you.
Hey, Boss, maybe you need Drew's Truck!
a cnbc poll has wes clark leading in the veep sweepstakes again...I think that's a lot of bull. those are republicans voting for the man they think will hurt the dem ticket not help it. there's no question the man of the hour now is edwards.
someone earlier mentioned rumsfeld not knowing the order was given to shoot down the planes. not only did rummy not know..but he was at the pentagon helping people get out of the building. now that's all well and good but for pete's sake the man is supposed to be running things, giving orders, supplying some kind of leadership....and leave the rescue operations in the hands of professionals. is there ANYONE in charge in washington?
Troubled times call for a strong leader. Someone who isn't afraid to take the gloves off when it comes to dealing with his enemies. It's a natural fit.
Republicans for Voldemort.
is there ANYONE in charge in washington?
Voldemort. Or is it Satan? There's that confusion again...
Moving is fun. It causes self-examination and makes one leave behind half of the stuff that should have been brought. And then other things stay in the cardboard boxes, never missed, until the next move.
And the only thing that always gets lost or breaks is the only thing that mattered.
is there anyone in charge in washington
Well, it depends on what you're interested in destroying.
Speaking of moving...
I moved from Los Angeles to NYC with two daughters (19 and 11) and 5 cats in a Penske truck.
We had to transfer all the cats into the motel each night and back into the van each morning.
Beat that!
I nominate Tena as a temporary replacement for Trios. If not Tena, then Thumb (remember him?). Or one of the other guest bloggers.
And I still sort of like Hitchens. And P.J. O'Rourke. Because they're both drunks and occassionally pretty funny. But that's it.
And fuck George Bush.
The new senatorial candidate from NH is worthy of everyone's support and a massive worldwide grassroots fundraising campaign.
Finally, someone actually honest in politics?
http://www.HaddockforSenate.org
The new senatorial candidate from NH is worthy of everyone's support and a massive worldwide grassroots fundraising campaign.
Finally, someone actually honest in politics?
Barack Obama in Illinois, too. Read the profile of him in the New Yorker a couple of weeks ago. Dude's like Kennedy, without the affairs, mafia connections and obsession with Castro.
Hey, imagine that! The liberal New York Times doesn't like Clinton's new book. Whodathunkit?
Old Hat, Obama is a real rock star, isn't he? When he's our Second Black Preznit, the interns will be throwing themselves at him.
With Jack Ryan's divorce files coming out in the open, even if they replace him on the ticket, I think this one's in the bag. And since Durbin seems to have found his balls lately, things look good for Illinois.
A.
P.J.O'Rourke is someone who rubs me the wrong way every single time I accidentally read him. He's a writer with one eye only.
Being as this is printed in the NYT, this is absolutely hilarious:
Mr. Clinton takes more responsibility in these pages for his affair with Ms. Lewinsky, his lies about that affair and the damage those actions inflicted on his family and his presidency than he has in the past. But he still spends a lot of time — like his wife did in her book — assailing right-wing enemies for his woes over Whitewater, the Paula Jones case and impeachment.
Let's see: and how did each of those end up? And has the NYT ever acknowledged its responsibility in that mess? So we are to assume from this that Clinton caused Jeff Gerth, the Arkansas Project, Tom Delay, and the circus that all but made a joke of the Constitution? Right....
In the end, he says, what brought him and his wife back together was weekly counseling sessions and their shared determination "to fight off the right-wing coup." He sheds little new light on his relationship with Mrs. Clinton, simply noting that he always admired her mix of idealism and practicality, and that she initially hesitated over his marriage proposal, knowing that "being married to me would be a high-wire operation in more ways than one."
And this reviewer has information to contradict that? No? Then why be so tendentious as to mention it?
In another passage, Mr. Clinton tries to characterize his impeachment fight as "my last great showdown with the forces I had opposed all of my life" - with those who had defended segregation in the South, opposed the women's and gay rights movements, and who believed government should be run for the benefit of special interests. He adds that he was glad that he had had "the good fortune to stand against this latest incarnation of the forces of reaction and division."
Sounds about right. Points out what a tool Gerth and the NYT were, though. One should add: "points out once again, in deference to the work of Gene Lyons, Joe Conason, (seperately and together) and the documentary based on their book.
That said, it may be the book is a chore to read. Who ever said Clinton was a good writer? Maybe he is, maybe he isn't. Time will tell.
Tho I gotta say, of Republicans running in Ryan's primary, I kind of liked Borling. Especially since nobody really gave him a chance aganst Jack "I'm so smart I fucked up my marriage to Seven of Nine but vote for me because I have a pretty smile even though I'm a complete and utter tool" Ryan.
And that Republicans for Voldemort thing upthread is feckin' brilliant.
A.
As usual, ended too soon on that book review:
Lies about sex and real estate, lies in the first case spread byothers and dutifully reported as "fact" by Jeff Gerth; in the second, who asked? except Ken Starr and Co., partisan rancor over "character issues" (not over weapons of mass destruction or pre-emptive war), and gee, who started that, and kept the fires under that pot burning with new fuel whenever possible? Clinton? I think not....psychobabble mea culpas, and tabloid wrangles over stained dresses again, Clinton caused this? Started this? egged it on? Was solely and wholly responsible for it? all seem like pressing matters from another galaxy, far, far away. Well, yeah, it does seem weird enough to have been an invasion from another planet. Seemed that way at the time, too. Again, are we to believe Clinton alone was responsnible for this feeling?
"Newspaper of record," my foot.
And, in the final proof that irony is not dead and God (or coincidence) has a nasty sense of humor...
the "printer friendly format" of that review of Clinton's book at the NYT is "sponsored by Fox Searchlight Pictures."
"Vast right-wing conspiracy" indeed. Why, the very idea is ludicrous.....
Spencer Ackerman, Josh Marshall's guest blogger, has an amazing interview with the mysterious anonymous CIA guy/gal who's writing that whistleblower book right here.
imagine that! The liberal New York Times doesn't like Clinton's new book. Whodathunkit?
And who gives a shit? Clinton's book's gonna be number one (just like Hillary's, which none of the brownshirted press liked either), at the same time Michael Moore's movie makes a shitload of money and is guaranteed an Oscar nomination, if not a win.
I'm reminded of a line spoken contemptuously by the prostitute to the gaggle playing poker in "The Front Page": "Gentlemen of the press - >sound of a huge wad of mucus being expelled from her throat and onto the floor< !"
I happen to be a cable guy, and I can tell you that the people who bitch loudest and longest, get things first, they always keep a couple of guys open to take care of the bitchy customers.
bitchy customers=religious right
cable company=republicans
Over at Emphyrio, I've got posts on the Israeli plan to patrol Gaza with armed robo-cars, and how even the hookers in the Green zone want the Americans out.
Kerry was smart to float McCain. It'd never happen, but it makes him look bipartisan to the muddled middle. Not a bad seed to plant, and for little cost.
Any further speculation on the techtonic-plate-shifting story Josh Marshall's working on?
GWPDA,
Thanks! I found a little cabin in the woods of Northern BC. Terrace is the nearest town. It's very premature of me to announce, as I haven't even bought the property yet. But something inside me says this is the place. My fingers are crossed. Thanks again.
Should I go to Direct TV?
With Directv you get The Daily Show. That alone is worth it. But you also get Worldlinktv, and Cspan.
and how even the hookers in the Green zone want the Americans out.
Probably because Republicans don't tip.
but it makes him look bipartisan
Bipartisanship is dead.
Mr Nobody, it's a little cabin far, far away, indeed! outside of Kitimaat and to the east of Prince Rupert, you'll be safe as houses as long as you have a dependable source of heating and water.
Terrace, BC. That's just about nearly as far as far away. Lovely.
Probably because Republicans don't tip.
Reminds me of a TV Nation poll:
70% of American women have never had an emotionally satisfactory relationship with a Republican
I miss TV Nation and The Awful Truth.
Here's more:
From a telephone survey of 204 Americans, Spring 1993
- 65% of all Americans believe that frozen pizza will never be any good and there's nothing science can do about it.
- 10% of the American public would pay $5 to see Senator Orrin Hatch (R - Utah) fight a big mean dog on Pay TV. 86% of all viewers would root for the dog. 100% of women viewers would root for the dog.
- 45% of Americans think rain doesn't feel as good in real life as it seems to in the movies.
- 16% of Perot voters believe "if dolphins were really smart, they could get out of those nets."
- 65% of American women believe there is "a lot of difference" between a campaign contribution and a bribe. Only 35% of men see a difference
- 70% of American women have never had an emotionally satisfactory relationship with a Republican
From a telephone survey of 229 Americans, Summer 1994
- In the past year 36% of Americans have chanted "We're Number One!" Only 22% of Bush voters have chanted "We're Number One!"
- 62% of Americans believe a trip to a major theme park is more culturally enriching than a trip to the Reagan Library
- 39% of Americans believe that guns are not "as dangerous as they say".
- 15% of Americans wish Dennis Hopper would go back on drugs.
- 29% of Americans believe that Elvis was right to shoot TV sets.
- 29% of Perot voters say "The candidate I vote for usually loses."
- 11% of Americans that suffer from indigestion would rather retake the SAT than watch a Jesse Helms filibuster.
- 12.5% of Americans that voted for Clinton believe that they will someday be told "just what Victoria's Secret is." 98% of Bush voters believe they will never know.
- 88% of Bush voters "have no idea what rappers are talking about."
- 14% of Americans surveyed agreed that Puerto Rico should not be the 51st state because "that extra star would make the flag look bad."
From a telephone survey of 208 Americans, Winter 1994
- 35% of Americans believe Richard Nixon went to heaven. 59% believe he went "someplace else."
- 34% of those who voted Republican in the last election believe "Forrest Gump" was a documentary.
Mr Nobody....Direct TV is owned by Rupert Murdoch...nuff sed.
samlex,
I know. I was going to drop it the moment he bought it. But dish didn't get The Daily Show. So I kept the subscription. Life isn't perfect. And Murdoch is hard to get away from. I can't live without my radio, and The Daily Show.
I guess what I'm asking is if anyone thinks digital satellite is much beter than digital cable--I'l keep my cable connection for the internet.
Ahem - in Terrace?
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I've just been looking at Terrace,
BTW, I'm over at the comments for Iraq the Model. They keep telling me that I'm missing part of the picture when I talk about our use of terror, but they seem unwilling to say what part of the picture I'm missing. I guess they're a little bit reluctant to say whether it's a good or a bad thing until they figure out just how far up it goes.
whoops "terror" should be "torture"
Iraq te Model's comments
You left out the one about how, if there was a button you could push that would make Larry King go away and never return, most Amnericans would push it.
GWPDA,
The place I'm looking at is 44 km north of Terrace. There's no cable there.
By the way, they missed cjsf, out of Burnaby. I've been listening to them for years. That's partly what inspired me to look north.
Wish me luck. 150 acres with a river.
Moving is fun. It causes self-examination and makes one leave behind half of the stuff that should have been brought.
Shit, I've been doing it wrong. I leave nothing behind, and somehow end up with twice as much as I had before...
Well, the majority of Americans believe in angels but not in dinosaurs. This makes me wonder if the petrified dinosaur footprints I found are actually angel footprints.
"Published on Friday, June 18, 2004 by Inter Press Service
The West May Go On Trial with Saddam
by Aaron Glantz
ARBIL, Iraq - A year after the fall of Saddam Hussein, the mountains and plains of Northern Iraq are still covered in landmines planted by the former Iraqi dictator's regime during the 1980s. That is when he fought a decade-long war with Iran and many battles with Kurdish guerrillas.
The Red Cross has made thousands of synthetic limbs for Iraqi civilians who have lost their arms or legs. Hundreds have been killed.
"We were in the village when we heard the mines go off in the middle of the night," recalls Mohammed Abuznawee, a shepherd who lives near a minefield outside Kirkuk. The Iraqi army mined the area around his village in 1985.
"Over 200 sheep broke out of their pen and walked into the minefield in the middle of the night and were killed. Then my brother went out to try to save the flock. He also died."
Iraq did not make any of the landmines Saddam used in his wars. They were all sold to him by Italy, China, the United States, and the former Soviet Union.
In Northern Iraq the Italian built mine Valmara is the most plentiful and the most dangerous. But the U.S. built landmine, the M-14 sold to Saddam by the administration of then president Ronald Reagan is also lethal.
"It's almost impossible to detect," says Wiyan Abdurrachman of the Kurdish demining organisation Aras. "There's no trigger that we can look for and mine is set off by pressure."
Aburrachman is angry that so many governments supported Saddam. "Saddam Hussein didn't have any mines, any ammunition. The only thing he had was money for buying the mines and guns."
The governments of France, Germany and Britain sold chemical agents to Saddam's government. U.S. companies also chipped in. France sold Iraq Mirage fighter jets and the Soviets Mig-29s that were used to deliver the chemical weapons.
The U.S. government added key intelligence information to make sure Saddam's planes were not shot down.
"Some day," Abdurrachman says, "those who supplied him will also have to stand trial."
But with a possible trial date drawing near it is still not clear whether Saddam's international backers will be called as part of a war crimes trial. "
http://www.commondreams.org/head...s04/0618-
02.htm
Well, the majority of Americans believe in angels but not in dinosaurs. This makes me wonder if the petrified dinosaur footprints I found are actually angel footprints.
Echidne
Well, I guess that settles the old angels-on-the-head-of-a-pin question.....or does it?
I mean, that really would be God's Own Pin, now wouldn't it?
Goober, so that's where the accronym came from! 
since this seems like an open thread i though i'd share another story of a former Bush 2000 voter turned against him!
My old Aunt Mary - 83 and her 87 yr old hubby Uncle Link, are aghast at Bush. They voted for him in 2000 (PA residents), but are "not ever voting for another Bush as long as they live" - which may be a while because they are both spry and with it at their current age.
Can't stand a thing he's done and "that awful war - that was such a mistake"
I tell ya it was the best part of the family reunion today - that and seeing my lesbian cousin show off her new baby to the family and specifically to her Charismatic Catholic mother who disowned her when she became pregnant but now seems to be coming around...blood is thicker than water, that's fer sure.
Atrios didn't ask me to, but if it gets too messy around here, I'll open a thread or two for y'all. I still have access to the back door. I haven't been here today - hiked 2 miles up to a small mountain lake with the biggest fucking brookies I've ever seen. There wasn't one under 12 inches, and most were 14. And fat. God it was fun. I'm exhausted.
That puts it in perspective. It's no different than Laos, with it's landmines that we dropped on them. How can we live our lives knowing we helped pay for these deadly devices. Thereaux went to jail for not paying taxes during the war in his time. Maybe that's what we all have to do, to stop the madness of the capitalistic war machine.
Yay, Tena!
Mr. Nobody - Tax rebels already exist, and they are, for the most part, survivalists who live in tiny out of the way places, like mountain towns. They own many guns. They are, to put it nicely, totally fucking nuts. That isn't going to work, IMHO. The federal law enforcement agencies are not people you want to even have to even think about, let alone have them looking for you.
I wish I thought it would work - I hate it like fury that so many unspeakably horrible things are done by this country, and I am a citizen of this country and I benefit from it and if I think about it too much it will drive me crazy.
Strangely, however, I run into more and more people who feel the same way that I do. I find that some comfort.
ronald is still dead.
firebrand -
I LOVE Aunt Mary & Uncle Link. This kind of story makes me feel good today...
Hi Tena - took a hike today myself - feels good, doesn't it?
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Tena,
Yes. They have the bullets. And we already know that doesn't work. There is no fighting the might we've given them. I suppose winning will take effort rather than force. I too, have great comfort in knowing that so many likeminded exist. Knowledge is our ammunition. We have accumulated it, against all odds. We were powerless against the early tyrants. Time will give us the advantage, against which they cannot sustain.
Mr. Nobody - "Knowledge is our ammunition." Oh nicely said. I really do think quite often about just that - knowledge and the fact that we are on the side of the truth. I think that's very important. It is for me, anyway.
We'll get there. We're already getting there. But, yeah, effort is demanded. The motivation going into the election on the left is just incredible. The trick will be keeping it going after the election. If we can do that, we've got ourselves a movement.
Jenny from the Blog - It did feel great. It was my first hike this year - I was sick when I got here and I've just started to feel good again this past week. That's another reason I haven't been around here as much. Two miles isn't far, but around here it's always uphill from any starting point. So the hike and fishing for a couple of hours has really knocked me out. But that feels great, too.
Especially great feeling was the hot bath I took when I got home. I'm so glad I don't live in a tent.
I'm so jealous of Mr. Nobody! If it were not for my family I'd be there in a flash.
Tena - "I'm so glad I don't live in a tent."
Ha! I used to live in a treehouse! (just a step up from a tent) but it did have a bathtub with hot steaming water (outside, of course). Sort of an experiment in alternate living.
Nothing better than a hike and a bath. I was so despondent when I went to bed last night - after reading the interview with the "anonymous" CIA agent whose book is soon to be released. Something about that (even though we've heard it all before) just chilled me and I tossed and turned thinking about all of the hideous, arrogant mistakes we've made waging this war and our conduct throughout. I know there will be an unbearable price to pay.
But today, like you, I just took a simple hike, and being in nature reminded me of some good things. I'm off for the evening now, but I'm so glad you're around.
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Jenny from the Blog - well thank you.
Tax rebels already exist, and they are, for the most part, survivalists who live in tiny out of the way places, like mountain towns. They own many guns. They are, to put it nicely, totally fucking nuts.
Yeah. My uncle Petey's one of them. He's also a religious whackjob whose ideas about subservient womanhood resulted in his wife and daughters basically kicking him out of the house and never speaking to him again.
He was always very sweet to me when I was small, so it was really sad to see him go absolutely crazy. I never thought he'd hurt a fly, but I try not to think about how much ammo he's got squirrelled away in case the "revenuers" come after him.
A.
Jeez, I hate moving. I've been living in an apartment I don't even like for four years, just because I so deeply and passionately dread moving.
You are right ofcourse... But... http://www.vitazine.com/steroids...c-
steroids.html
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