I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
get cheney'ed, ya fascist fuck!
Heartland values: being the CEO of a war profiteer.
Yes, yes, keep campaigning for Bush, Dick! We love to see you out in public! Show the world what a swell, charismatic guy you are! America loves you and your 20% favorability ratings!
If Kerry is out of touch with the mainstream I can't even begin to imagine what kind of radical freak outcast that makes me. I hope the farmers are greeting Cheney with pitchforks (and torches.)
If Kerry is out of touch with the mainstream I can't even begin to imagine what kind of radical freak outcast that makes me. I hope the farmers are greeting Cheney with pitchforks (and torches.)
Dick, go Cheney yourself, asshole.
Err, no elimationist rhetoric, please.
Sorry to be no fun, but that language is unnecessary. He'll be going down in the proper way soon enough.
Cheney's bus has paper over all the windows and he only campaigns at night. Wierd.
Tom DC/VA - I agree. Tar & feathers are cheaper anyway.
Ack chris/tx!! Cheney's a vampire?? OMG! Explains alot...the weird sneer (for his fangs?), the secret undisclosed location (his coffin?), his lesbian daughter (if that's normal, I'm outta here!?), the pasty face (hates sunlight?), the several heart surgeries (blood transfusions?)..OooOoo the list can go on and on!
Cheney's bus has paper over all the windows and he only campaigns at night. Wierd.
I'm of the "Cheney was hatched in a lab in Argentina" school myself.
yes, half the country or more is out of the mainstream and out of touch with the heartland.
This man won't be happy til we live in a one-party fascist state.
Buzzflash is headlining a story about a owner of a theater chain in the heartland that is banning F911. There's a fine example of a man that loves this country and cares about real values.
The Crazies
AMY GOODMAN:Now one of the things we are talking about a lot and seeing a lot is that the same people that were there during the Reagan-Bush years and even before, the Wolfowitzes the Rumsfelds, Cheneys were there then. What was George Bush’s view of these people then?
RAY MCGOVERN: Well, you know it’s really interesting. When we saw these people coming back in town, all of us said who were around in those days said, oh my god, ‘the crazies’ are back – ‘the crazies’ – that’s how we referred to these people.
Have any of those with Cheney's "shared values" told him to go fuck himself yet?
It might make them feel better.
From the WH 'Ask the WH' this week:
Mark, from Santa Fe writes:
So many current and former BushReaganCheney adminstration staff profit from war. What do you think of that? Isn't it in their interest to promote war instead of peace?
Richard Armitage
I don't know how they can profit from war. If you are speaking about investments, stock ownings in previous companies when they were in the private sector, most of us have to give up our stocks before we enter government. We have to sell them, so there is no way we can profit
No one profits from war except those who are free from subjugation.
ie, Bushco et al. Oh, and Cheney still has his stock options, but maybe those don't count.
Have any of those with Cheney's "shared values" told him to go fuck himself yet?
He did get booed at Yankee Stadium. Does this mean that "mainstream Americans" are Red Sox fans?
BTW -- where did the whole concept of this "heartland" bullshit come from anyway? That's just more divisive crap that implies that there are some places where "real" Americans live.
The theater chain owner has every right to decide what films run on the screens he owns. It'll be his pocketbook that's lighter for it, not his competitor's, that's for sure.
Again, the foolish wingnuts bring only further attention to F 9/11, which (if treated like any other film) would have been totally overshadowed at the box office by Spiderman 2's opening this weekend, if it weren't for their bleating.
Haw haw haw!
Has anyone else grown tired of this mythical construct of "the heartland"? I realize that sometimes simplifications and generalities are necessary, but this whole "heartland" thing has been much abused.
Both the right and left employ this myth (but I think the right does this to a much higher degree) as a kind of wedge; the right uses it in tandem with another myth - the "liberal elite" - while a few on the left like to turn it around and portray those that don't live on an ocean as unthinking yahoos.
This meme needs to ended.
Telling someone to Go Fuck Yourself is as American as apple pie. CHENEY'S STATEMENT HAS MADE HIM A ROCKSTAR IN THE MIDWEST.
Again, the foolish wingnuts bring only further attention to F 9/11, which (if treated like any other film) would have been totally overshadowed at the box office by Spiderman 2's opening this weekend, if it weren't for their bleating.
Since Kirsten Dunst goes to fundraisers for Kerry, I'd only have to ask one question.
Why does this theater owner hate Spiderman?
Telling someone to Go Fuck Yourself is as American as apple pie. CHENEY'S STATEMENT HAS MADE HIM A ROCKSTAR IN THE MIDWEST.
That's possible. Kerry's slide in the polls before New Hampshire stopped when he used the F word.
Neither would give Leahy the right to marry himself after he fucks himself (which means that they're both essentially for self-inflicted homosexual fornication).
But at least Kerry might agree to Leahy's getting a civil union and coming to visit himself in the EU.
Not in the Midwest my family lives in. They want Bush to drop him from theb ticket and tag Hagel.
Not in the Midwest my family lives in.
The Midwest is a pretty big place.
Are we talking about Chicago, Ann Arbor, Madison, or are we talking about Southern Illinois?
Why does this theater owner hate Spiderman?
Not just Spiderman, but Mary Jane, too!
I used the phrase "the Heartland" because it was in the article - but I agree that it is a myth and I find almost offensive. I find "the Motherland" extremely offensive.
Not just Spiderman, but Mary Jane, too!
I actually think Cheney would make a great Spiderman villain.
And Peter Parker is obviously a liberal:
1.) From New York City
2.) Intellectual
3.) Doesn't want to be a superhero (unlike Bush). Just wants a normal life as a geeky sensitive male with a crush on the girl next store.
No I'm afraid it's worse than hating Spiderman or M.J.
R.L. Fridley, owner of Des Moines-based Fridley Theatres, says the controversial documentary incites terrorism.
I used the phrase "the Heartland" because it was in the article
I get the reference but it's a myth that needs to be put to rest.
The Midwest and the Northeast are almost culturally identical. I see no difference between suburban Chicago and New Jersey or Westchester.
It just gets colder.
Contrasting the "heartland" with the elitist intellectual Northeast is also a bit misleading since it ignores the fact that the Midwest has at least 5 or 6 elite Universities.
How does Fahrenheit 9/11 incite terrorism? Most of Bush's speeches incite terrorism more than some documentary by some guy from the left.
If anything, the movie might reduce the increases in terrorism by showing that there are many different opinions in America, as well as real people who suffer when they lose their children.
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About Cheney's comments: I would be very insulted to be told by a politician what I supposedly believe.
Tena
I wasn't arguing with you. Cheney used the word "heartland" in his quote attacking Kerry. I never cared for words like motherland, fatherland, or even homeland. Every time I hear the words Department of Homeland Security, I cringe.
It's bad enough they steal our flag.
But when they try to call dibs on Spidey it really pisses me off.
The Spider Man I remember as a kid would have fit fine on the boards here at Eschaton. One of the more reassuring things to an old alchemist like me is how the kids I meet around here don't take nothin' off nobody.
Spider Man 2 has great special effects. A lot of good action sequences. But damn! that Peter Parker has far too much angst and not enough attitude.
Somebody had better send him over next door to hear what Michael Moore has to say about it.
Skellinton -- Fridley can say what he likes. All his yammering will do is put other theaters' ticket stubs into the hot little hands of theatergoers there.
And the "heartland" meme at its heart is anti-intellectual, because whenever it is invoked it assumes a rural, "simple" lifestyle in opposition to that of the (supposedly elitist) coasts...
Walmart can close down the small town stores, corporate farms can buy out thier families, urban sprawl can crawl unchecked all over the countryside, but that "heartland" just keeps going, huh?
There is such a fevered pitch in the Bushco war machine now. History will compare this time to the McCarthy period. Wasn't Walter Winchell the Rush Limbaugh of his time? I'm still waiting for the tipping point. The only reason that this has reached this level of absurdity is because of the treasonous press.
Toonscribe - I didn't think you were - I was tring to clarify my feelings about it since I did use the term down in my own comment. And I paused a nanosecond before I used it for that reason.
Heartland is one of those funny words that mean a hundred different things to a hundred different people, but hypnotize the weak minded in a very similar way.
An old Jedi mind trick, practiced by an Undead Sith Lord.
Somebody shine some light on that Vampire's Classified meetings with Enron, please.
Among other times he's sucked blood from the American public.
"And the "heartland" meme at its heart is anti-intellectual, because whenever it is invoked it assumes a rural, "simple" lifestyle in opposition to that of the (supposedly elitist) coasts..."
"Heartland" is also racist: Cheney wasn't so much happy to be speaking to the heartland as to a crowd of white anglo-saxon protestants.
Heartland is one of those funny words that mean a hundred different things to a hundred different people, but hypnotize the weak minded in a very similar way.
I'm going to start saying I'm from the headland. Better that than the hindland.
Unless I'm crazy, that's pretty much a word-for-word Bush line from his race against Dukakis. Wasn't it? Something like "He's out there, on the left, out of the mainstream"?
Yeah, I know they ALL say this all the time. It's just that this one sounded pretty close to identical.
A propos of which, I saw a cartoon today postulating that Republicans have no sense of time, and can't tell the difference between the past, te present and the future. (Which mght make them good physicists, given the need for atemporal perspective i that field...but it's a really lousy trait for politicians.)
Nobody's reading the link, because the best part is that he was there with Mary, who was selling out her gay friends and who was sporting a tattoo, no less. What do you think was tattooed on Mary. My idea is here.
Courtsey Eric Idle, a song Mr. Cheney could be proud of...
The FCC Song
Philalethes,
I was struck with deja vu when i read that quote as well.
It's gotta be verbatim from somebody's campaign. i know I've heard it before.
These chumps can't even come up with a new stump speech in, what, 20 years?
Maybe Dick's tour through the heartland will be followed by Lynne Cheney reading her lesbian pulp novel to third graders across the south.
Origin of HeartLand:
My Pet Goatboy sez, "Hey, Remember the 80's?"
After NBC showed "The Day After", the crazies got mad because the movie lied claiming that nuclear war would kill Amreicans (sarcasm). So of course, NBC did another movie called "Amerika", with Kris Kristoferson (He is in Sayle's Silver City) as some prisoner of war, oh wait excuse me, enemy combatant, after the Soviets conquer the USA (How is never explained, just like in that other neo-con fantasy "Red Dawn" that was shown non-stop on cable for years).
So, Robert Urich plays the Vichy type collaborator and the Soviets split the "indivisible" in five sub-countries and give Urich the one in the middle, named:
"Heartland".
THis is from memory of 20 years ago, but this miniseries and "Red Dawn" are the propaganda equivalent of alot of the shit we are seeing now.
People talk about the Red Scare propaganda of the 50's, so maybe some grad student in need of a project can do one for the 80's.
Brian Boru --
Another way the "heartland" idea is racist is that it is used to appeal to people afraid of urban blacks.
The blacks will be given DC which will be renamed: Soulland.
Well, I think come this November, the Republican Party is gonna suffer a collective Heartland-Attack. Probably non fatal, but debilitating none the less.
I hope.
Goober, I hope their heart attack is fatal...the republican party should be outlawed as treasonous, and the democratic should be shut down as spineless...
hmm, heartland values? stripping captive nakid? no, that's not heartland. torture? nope. corporate sleeze? nah un. using jesus like a $10 dallar whore? no, not that either.
Oh and it's so patronizing. When an R says "heartland," what he really means is: Simple honest peasants, close to the good earth, trusting and trustworthy, easy to fool into voting for us so we can keep on getting rich.
I find it sadly amusing that "heartland," folk eat this shit up... coming from a corporate, limousine-riding, fuck the little guy, corporatist evil fucktard.
Yes, I feel a little better, getting that off of my chest...
Linnaeus -
Oh, I agree - I grew up in Vermont - a VERY racially homogeneous state - and not especially progessive at all, except for (maybe) Burlington - and we've still managed to bring Bernard Sanders (I-Vt.), Senator Patrick Leahy, and (the horror!) HOWARD DEAN to the national stage..
David Patterson, are you still awake? Eat a bowl of fuck, sir. I'll always consider it a compliment to have VP Halliburton insult a Senator that I've always respected.. Or are you still offended by "bad language?"
Iowa, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illinois, and Michigan. All "heartland" states, and all voted blue in 2000.
Oh and it's so patronizing. When an R says "heartland," what he really means is: Simple honest peasants, close to the good earth, trusting and trustworthy, easy to fool into voting for us so we can keep on getting rich.
Tom Frank's article in last Spring's Harper's about Kansas is required reading for anybody wanting to see through the "heartland" myth.
Yes, you reading comprehension addled pettifoggers keep harping on the "values" of Cheney whilst your beloved Kerry said "fuck" in a Rolling Stone interview. It doesn't make you look like silly hipocrites at all.
Yes, all the "heartlanders" will surely embrace you in Novemeber, if only you make "Cheney" mean the same as "Fuck." Keep uttering "Fuck" and "Cheney" in the same breath Atriettes. It will serve you well in "changing the discourse."
Yes, you reading comprehension addled pettifoggers keep harping on the "values" of Cheney whilst your beloved Kerry said "fuck" in a Rolling Stone interview.
As long as we're comparing Rolling Stone to the floor of the Senate, can we get one of the Senators to hold up a sign that says "The Corporate Media Still Sucks" while he's addressing some committee or another.
Go for it, the rest of the country will be voting on it.
As long as we're comparing Rolling Stone to the floor of the Senate,
Not just that, but the usage of the word. Kerry used it to describe what the Bush regime had done in terms of policy.
Cheney used it to be directly insulting to a US Senator.
I don't much care about naughty words. I use them myself all the time. But I do take offense at people like Cheney pretending to be some sort of defender of "traditional values" or some such nonsense, when the only things they value are money and power.
Go for it, the rest of the country will be voting on it.
Let's see if I can explain this more clearly.
99.99999% of the American population uses the word "fuck."
Rolling Stone is an appropriate forum for this kind of language.
The floor of the Senate is not.
Now where you got your credentials to speak for the "Heartland" is still a bit of a mystery. Most people I know in the "heartland" are nothing like Freeper trolls.
Cheney used it to be directly insulting to a US Senator.
I hope Cheney keeps it up actually.
Leahy's not the kind of guy who's going to hit back that hard.
A guy like Frank Lautenburg might throw some insults back but I doubt he'll do anything drastic.
But sooner or later Cheney's going to piss off the wrong person.
Cetainly! Such moral cowardice should be expected from the Atriods. No one has ever told anther person "fuck off" or "fuck you." Irregardless of that, Cheney's utterance disqualifies Bush from the presidency. UhHuh.
Cetainly! Such moral cowardice should be expected from the Atriods. No one has ever told anther person "fuck off" or "fuck you." Irregardless of that, Cheney's utterance disqualifies Bush from the presidency. UhHuh.
It's kind of hard to respond to a troll when you can't figure out what the fuck he's trying to say.
English Motherfucker. Do you speak it?
English Motherfucker. Do you speak it?
Do you? Do you not understand the word "hipocrite?" Do you not see how ignorant it makes you look to say on the one hand it is not OK for Cheney to say "fuck" and on the other hand for Kerry to say "Fuck" is alright, but at the same time "fuck" is a perfectly colloqial word and we shouldn't get upset about it?
Do you? Do you not understand the word "hipocrite?"
Actually no. The word "hipocrite" doesn't exist.
Do you not see how ignorant it makes you look to say on the one hand it is not OK for Cheney to say "fuck" and on the other hand for Kerry to say "Fuck" is alright, but at the same time "fuck" is a perfectly colloqial word and we shouldn't get upset about it?
What part of "on the floor of the Senate" don't you understand?
What part of the Oval Office do you not understand? Oh, that would be where in proximity Billy Boy got a Blow Job. On the floor of the senate? Oh, the Vice President said "fuck" in passing. Equivalence!
What part of the Oval Office do you not understand? Oh, that would be where in proximity Billy Boy got a Blow Job. On the floor of the senate? Oh, the Vice President said "fuck" in passing. Equivalence!
Fuck yeah. I made a Freeper invoke Clinton and use the word equivalence in the same post.
3 point shot for me. Fucking A.
But to give you a consolation prize (since you're obviously struggling so hard with the English language), I'll promise that in November, I won't vote for any ticket that contains Cheney or Bill Clinton.
MMM, nice victory. No answer is equal to victory huh? I'm sorry, but I never went to a school where moral cowardice was equal to a rhetorical point. Advantage, well, hipocracy.
Could you please put in an end tag for the italics? It screws up all the posts below.
An email might be more apropos, Kristjan. People have been hinting in comments all day (or outright saying) that the tag is messed up. It'll be fixed eventually. Until then, enjoy the slant.
I always stop listening to anyone's argument as soon as he/she uses the pseudo-word "irregardless." Just breaks me up laughing. Almost as funny as "hipocracy." The poor chap won't even be able to find it in a dictionary from that starting point; it's not even close.
don't you guys get it -- this guy fridley is a national hero: he realizes that Des Moines, Iowa is full of "sleepers" and if any of them were to see Farenheit 9/11 they would be incited to burn the theater right down. he probably works for homeland security or the baptists
Wait until Cheney is indicted for the Plamegate. What will Chimpy do then???
Hey, Rudolph the Red, a bunch of us (the Smarty Jones team) are betting on indictments in the Plame case, fingering a Bush appointee (and I think -- Smarty, correct me if I'm wrong on this -- that Cheney would be included), before the Democratic Convention on July 26. Join the forces of light!
BTW -- where did the whole concept of this "heartland" bullshit come from anyway? That's just more divisive crap that implies that there are some places where "real" Americans live.
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This attempt to further DEVIDE THE COUNTRY will surely backfire.All Kerry has to do is keep hitting the meme,that he will UNITE THE COUNTRY IN A CIVIL and FISCALLY SOUND manner ,and these fiends will look like the RAVING,RAPING,RADICALS they are.BRING IT ON!(shorter Lincoln,a house devided amongst itself ,cannot stand.
The only thing Big Dick has honestly done to earn his keep as the VP during the past three and a half years is not die (yet). IT's number one in the job description. Everything else beyond that was done to con America into believing it was being threatened by Iraq so he and his big business buddies could steal their oil and rob tax dollars from the common folk via no bid contracts. Oh yeh, and spill innocent blood. Children, women, fathers, grandparents, and young soldiers. You just know a vampire digs that part.
Dick "go cheney yourself" Cheney represents all the worst in what the human condition has to offer...it is readily apparent just in that horrific snear of his, without even hearing the bilge that spills from his mouth. He is a human failure of tremendous proportions.
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I've been scratching my head since I first read his comments as to what conservative values he has in mind, then it came to me.
He must be talking about the value of launching a war against a nation, killing thousands of innocents (and costing American taxpayers hundreds of billions of dollars), that neither had anything to do with 9/11 nor had any weapons of mass destruction.
Yeah, thats it.
Or maybe its denying poor children school lunches so that you can buy yet more bombers and give the ultra rich a tax break.
Hmmm, yeah.
Maybe it's attacking the environment simply to assure that their despoiler buddies have the fattest bottom line possible.
Yep.
Oh, it probably has to do with the rank and file's great desire to turn the feds into a vast governmental Peeping Tom.
Am I getting warm?
It could also be our value to make sure that every man woman and child has a loaded AK47 in the closet for those special emergencies by gum!
Yea conservative values!!!
Don't they just make you feel all warm and fuzzy?
3 point shot for me. Fucking A.
High five.
Adding a line.
He must be talking about the value of launching a war against a nation, killing thousands of innocents (and costing American taxpayers hundreds of billions of dollars), that neither had anything to do with 9/11 nor had any weapons of mass destruction and were told that ahead of time!
Let's get on message, folks. From now on, we should refer to him as Vice President Dick "Go F*ck Yourself" Cheney.
On the other hand, maybe government secrecy, gofuckyourselfishness, and sacrificing lives in the name of lying and corruption are, in fact, the values of the heartland.
If not, why does the heartland vote Republican?
Heartland is supposed to come from the idea of living close to the lande. Black folks lived close into the land and delta as well.
But for the broader belt of the corn growers it does maintain more whiteness, it does not matter Cheney is a threat to those values.
Curse some more Cheney. Lie about the other candidates. Try your best to downgrade them you have nothing to run on, just a record to run from.
Gitmo and the Hague have your reservations awaiting...
The 'Soulland' sounds great for a meme as well, great idea!
Cheney off, dick!
hey, george, ever heard of a CIA cocaine kingpin named seal, barry seal? oh no? then why were you flying around in his plane as texas governor after he was killed and his plane was reclaimed? barry seal. hmmm. maybe asa hutchison could provide some answers. get ready for campaign 2004!
Strange. No America's Nemesis. This seemed right up his alley.
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