I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
thread has been officially shit on
You know, the repugs don't even try at reasonable debate anymore to defend their position, not that they ever could but at least they tried. And now they're like, "Yeah, we're dumb little worthless shits. So what?"
This is going to be too easy. You guys could have at least picked a real candidate..
Well, another troop was killed in Iraq so far today and this trolls is still sucking up oxygen.
BWWWWWWWAAAAAAAHAHAHAH!
BUSH WAS THE BEST YOU REPUKES COULD COME UP WITH!!!
BWWWWWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
THE BEST YOU REPUKES COULD COME UP WITH WAS A GIGGLING MURDERER!!!
THE BEST YOU REPUKES COULD COME UP WITH WAS A GIGGLING MURDERER!!!
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And the hilarious thing is that you are going to lose to him...again 
Didn't lose to him the first time, Useless Time Waster.
Honestly, I don't care who wins. You repukes are taking us all down to ruin. Let's go!
BWWWWWAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!
Since a Dennis Miller clone seems to have jumped into the fray, I'm going to drop this in -
July 15 Washington Post item:
Dennis Miller, a big backer of Bush, was in Green Bay, Wis., yesterday to warm up the crowd before the prez spoke. Miller made a glancing reference to Whoopi but promised, "In deference to George W. Bush, I will try not to fall to depths that some would in this case."
Then he went on to imply a homosexual attraction between Kerry and Edwards.
"Those two cannot keep their hands off each other, can they?" Miller said. "I think I have a new idea for a new campaign slogan -- use the bumper sticker 'Hey, Get A Room.' " (End of clipping)
Whoopi lost one of her jobs for her remarks... It would only be fair to get Dennis booted from the only one he' s got left for this crap.
Your Repuke is a sly little fox:
They pretend they have man-sized cocks.
Yet their women long
For Democratic dong,
'Cause Repukes won't fuck without socks.
Why do my fingers smell like pungent butthole?
The stupid trolls think their "team" must win at all costs like it's a football game.
The difference between 1988 and 2004 is that the reactionary right now has thousands of index-card-carrying excellent nerds more deeply entrenched in the media to repeat and reinforce its lies.
On the other hand, Bill Moyers was on Ring of Fire today, and the segment was great.
Hey Thug, get your fingers out of your mouth.
brucds, it's like this.....
lifes not fair.
Quick! Please somebody tell me how to post a jpeg on comments. This is really important: I have a scan of the
1967 Bush/fratboy Branding story, the NYT HAS MOVED THE STORY out of archives (damn that was fast) but I got the scan of it. It's not very big and believe me you guys wanna see this...
They didn't win the first time, they won't win this time.
The only way the right-wing can win is to cheat like shit.
I think Dionne's piece could be profitably read next to Jon Stewart's montage of rethugs repeating the same line over and over again (which I know has been discussed in other threads here). It seems to me that pointing out that this is a canned strategy takes some of its teeth, at least.
The stupid trolls think their "team" must win at all costs like it's a football game.
Nah, it's more like the bitchy backstabbing games played by high school cheerleaders. Which, um, Bush was. They couldn't play football because the refs wouldn't let them get away with such obvious cheating as stealing the game through your family connections, and not letting the black kids play. Only the sorryass media would do that. Because they were all Heathers too.
Uncle $cam- I would suggest sending it to one of our esteemed pro-tem blogmeisters. Even if they don't know what to do, it'll be in good hands until A-Man gets back.
Thug, it's like this. Kiss my ass, mutant midget.
Of course life's not fair. If life were fair you'd be an abortion statistic...and Miller would be selling used cars.
Now go back to FREEP or Frontpage where your IQ isn't a handicap.
LOL! BlakNo1, you guys picked a candidate who makes Al Gore look like Mr Personality. It's not even going to be close this time. After the conventions, you will start to see Bush pull away in October. It's Mike Dukakis all over again.
Desperate...cornered...pathetic.
Mmmmmm, ass. Indeed I'll kiss it, pucker to pucker. Your small meaty man doughnut.
OT: from the LA Times (19th paragraph)
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In an interview with the Al Hayat newspaper, Allawi said Iraqi police and national guardsmen had arrested several key insurgents in recent days, including a driver for Jordanian-born fugitive and suspected Al Qaeda lieutenant Abu Musab Zarqawi.
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Pakistan has refused to go along with the 'Capture Terrorist during Democratic Convention' ploy and this one is about one week early. Could this be why LA Times, not beholden to the GOP like WaPo and NYT, is the only neews outlet carrying this? Or is the Times in error?
but we probably should have had Edwards as the candidate. At least we could have won
I think Dion's "doing an Atwater on Kerry" contains a lot of good points, but Bu$h has screwed up so much in every conceivalbe catagory that just slinging mud isn't going to cut it. The whole, tired *librul* and terra, terra, terra have already run out of gas. So has Chimpy.
Quick! Please somebody tell me how to post a jpeg on comments. This is really important: I have a scan of the
1967 Bush/fratboy Branding story, the NYT HAS MOVED THE STORY out of archives (damn that was fast) but I got the scan of it. It's not very big and believe me you guys wanna see this...
Uncle $cam
E-mail address at top of blog, and next to my name on this comment.
Ah, I love the smell of troll fear in the morning.
Smells like....victory!!
brucds
Each time this cretin posts, one of us should send a donation to the DNC. I'm on my way over to their website right now. Can't think of a better way to keep the mutant midget from wasting bandwidth and cluttering up the neighborhood with inanities.
"you will start to see Bush pull away in October."
Oh, Bush will be "pulling away" alright - in a U-Haul trailer packed up with his sorry ass and all the shit that goes with him back to Crawford.
(Sorry for any appearence of troll-feeding but, hey, this was one time I couldn't resist.)
Damn, I hate how you have to register for every damned paper anymore. Anybody have an LAT entry code they want to share?
Since the cretin did a phony post using my "name" ("should have had Edwards blah, blah"), I'm sending an additional donation to the Democratic Congressional Committee.
EJ's treading on my turf here.
The 1988 comparison fails for several reasons:
1988: Bush and Dukakis were fighting for an open Presidency. Bush could come from behind because he had no record, or claimed to have none (remember "I was out of the loop"?).
I repeat my contention that Atwater-style tactics won't work to RE-elect a President whose record of accomplishment won't support re-election. It will only work when the candidate can simultaneously slime his opponent and make campaign promises.
In 2004, Bush will fail.
bigvic,
go to bugmenot.com
"C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator.TANK2\Desktop\
bushbrand.jpg"
They can't "win" it without stealing it.
Why?
Because no one who voted for Gore will vote for Bush. Gore won last time, even in Florida, even in spite of the various illegalities committed by the Bush team.
And because quite a few who voted for Bush won't be voting for him again. They don't even have to vote for Kerry; all they have to do is stay home on election day and Kerry will sweep it.
And because Bush still has so many hurdles to overcome. He can't count on the military vote this time. The Plame investigation is about to bear fruit. The 9/11 commission is wrapping up. And Farenheit 9/11 has been seen by about 10 million Americans so far, most of whom are not only energized to vote his sorry ass out, but whom are also working to turn others against his sorry ass.
Cheating is his only hope of a win, just like last time.
Oh, nevermind. That smell was just me farting 
Way OT, but I think y'all will like this.
A compendium of lists at http://www.mcsweeneys.net/ has this hidden within:
Playlists on Dick Cheney's iPod
BY RYAN BOUDINOT
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Classified
Classified Light
Classified Driving Music
Classified Smooth Jazz
Ashcroft, Seals and Croft
Rock and Roll, Probably
Prehomosexual Elton John
Now That’s What I Call Music! (vols. 1-10)
Republican Party Music
None of Your Fucking Business
* * *
The whole site looks good for worthwhile noodling-around. But there's a link to other lists here.
Forgive the error's sowwy ;-(
just slinging mud isn't going to cut it.
Listening to the boy king's contortions in trying to sound optimistic when he's going negative is amusing.
"The whole, tired *librul* and terra, terra, terra have already run out of gas. So has Chimpy."
bigvic
I agree. First, I don't think Kerry is going to sit back and take their shit. Second, Bush has WAY too many weaknesses to exploit in kind.
Remember that image of Dukakis in the tank? Bush in that flight suit with that cod piece in front of the Mission Accomplished sign is about 10 times more ridiculous, not to mention an outrage after what transpired in Iraq since that photo op went down.
So, bring it on!
Mr Boudinot also contriibuted this definition to a a book McSweeney's is putting together "The Future Dictionary of America".
Funny stuff.
blowkay [bloh'-kay] adj. of an attitude, typically exhibited by the electorate, that elected officials who have sexual relations outside of marriage while in office are less deserving of impeachment than officials whose decisions lead to the loss of human life. Folks say the new senator from Rhode Island is a skirt chaser, but as long as he doesn't send thousands of Americans off to die in a war on false pretenses, he's blowkay with me. —RYAN BOUDINOT
Thanks, Anonymous!
There's a contest for additional words to add to the dictionary.
http://www.mcsweeneys.net/2004/7/11.html
Maybe "santorum" or "turkee"
They can't "win" it without stealing it.
Why?
Because no one who voted for Gore will vote for Bush. Gore won last time, even in Florida, even in spite of the various illegalities committed by the Bush team.
And because quite a few who voted for Bush won't be voting for him again. They don't even have to vote for Kerry; all they have to do is stay home on election day and Kerry will sweep it.
And because Bush still has so many hurdles to overcome. He can't count on the military vote this time. The Plame investigation is about to bear fruit. The 9/11 commission is wrapping up. And Farenheit 9/11 has been seen by about 10 million Americans so far, most of whom are not only energized to vote his sorry ass out, but whom are also working to turn others against his sorry ass.
Cheating is his only hope of a win, just like last time.
Jennifer
you poor thing. the delirium has taken you completely and you babble unknowingly. it ok little jenny, we have all suffered through bouts of denial at some point in our lives, though with this crowd it often revolves around drug addiction as much as politics, and given enough time and psychotropic drugs you may one day recover. for now just drift in the fog and dream little one...
Ah, I've been name-stolen! I'm somebody now!!
The Republicans little nerd cottage industry prepares talking points for use at all levels of media --from the networks to a local monthly paper
but they all use the same terms
the phrase "out of the maintstream" for example is repeated. Most liberal in the senate ==although a lie is repeated daily now.
I don't blame the Republicans as much as the media itself for repeating the lies as if they were a breaking news story.
Lame, gullible, and stupid
bushbrand Maybe this will work ...
More OT stuff:
http://tinyurl.com/5qj4a
Cheney Effect [chay’•nee ee•fekt’]
n. the manifestation of personality changes brought on by the reception of a transplanted organ, usually the heart.
ralphnadir [ralf•nay’•deer]
1. n. the lowest point in any process, whereby the urgent need to alter that process becomes manifest. The ralphnadir of America’s unrepresentative two-party system led to the establishment, in 2012, of our current proportional allnite-party system. 2. v. the act of creating such a low point while simultaneously undoing one’s reputation. He ralphnadired their relationship when he condescendingly denied that he’d cheneyed their joint account.
It ain't 1988, Kerry ain't Dukakis and the campaign ain't going to operate like they've got a 17 point lead. Also, Bush is running on his own dismal record and a FUBAR war, not Reagan's coat-tails. I think that Bush is starting to look like road-kill, but nobody in their right mind is going to take anything for granted and the Kerry-Edwards campaign might just set a new standard for kicking GOP butt. There was nothing like the kind of energy I currently feel around Dems back in '88. Plus, the candidates weren't half as good. I say, bring it on...
ok, I done...I will e-mail it to the blogfather. sorry...
I remember back just after the primaries when little girls like Mickey Kaus were talking about "buyer's remorse" among Democrats "stuck" with Kerry.
These days - post-VP Edwards and with Kerry starting to get in gear - the only remorse I see is among right-wingers who are stuck with a budget-buster who can't even get traction on their wedge issues and GOP moderates who are truly embarrassed by their candidate and this administration. Oh, and did I mention folks who thought Iraq would be under control by now...
I can't believe that Dionne thinks the "tough on terror" thing is going to work for Bush. Bush has been sabotaging that himself, or through his surrogates. If he's so "tough on terror", then how come his own people -- Ridge and Ashcroft -- are going around saying that there's all this terrorist "chatter" and that something even bigger than 9/11 is coming down the pike, perhaps around the time of the conventions or the election. His own appointee raised the possibility of postponing elections based on a terrorist attack.
I realize that cognitive dissonance is a requirement for Republicans, but how can any thinking person listen to this scaremongering and think, "Oh, thank God we have George W. Bush in office, because we're so much safer now!" We have never in American history postponed a national election, and Bush's people are talking about it, and we're supposed to feel that Bush is doing a good job on the fight against Al Qaeda?
It's easy to defeat Bush's attempts to do what Atwater would have him do: call Bush's trustworthiness into account. Ask why we would believe anything he has to say? He wasn't telling us the truth about Iraq and the aftermath, about tax cuts benefitting us all, about expanding Medicare. He's not trustworthy. Why listen? Every time he opens his mouth, the response should be, "Why should we believe you?"
What I find hilarious is hearing what a genious KKKarl Rove is.
Nevermind that they lost the last election to Gore, who the press rode into the ground for them, or that putting politics over principal is so obvious in this admin. We're about to see that while Rove is the smarmiest person in politics today, he's no Atwater.
Brian, good idea, and it can be done without using the "l" word that the pundits get in such an uproar about (unless they're talking about Joseph Wilson, of course). Untrustworthy is a really good word to use for Bush; it undercuts his attempt to show himself as a guy you'd like to have a beer with.
Nora, what I like is the idea of trustworthiness doesn't question his intentions. Bush can mean well, and still fail through mere incompetence. You can have a beer with him, you just don't have to let him drive you home.
Aboard Air Force One on his way to Florida, Bush, traveling with daughter Barbara, watched the coverage of the Tour de France, as he has often done in recent days. Taking a break from the bicycle race, Bush linked his fate to that of American cyclist Lance Armstrong, who is vying for his sixth win. "He's going to win and I'm going to win," Bush told reporters on the plane. "There's no need to worry about either race anymore."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp...-
2004Jul16.html
It ain't 1988, Kerry ain't Dukakis and the campaign ain't...got a 17 point lead.
I am shocked. somebody here actually managed to make three factually correct statements. that beats the old record by two (back when we gave a point for attaching a nickname).
But Bush is the type of guy, who after spending all day drinking at a bar, invites you over for a beer then leaves, sticking you with his tab!
The "he means well" is a good place to start from, too, now that you mention it. My mother, faced with any kind of miserable behavior, will say, "He means well" and then proceed to eviscerate the behavior. It's a great way to show up his inherent lack of fitness to lead the country without sounding negative -- we've admitted that he tries hard, that he means well, but he just doesn't quite have what it takes.
Done right, it could be devastating.
Aboard Air Force One on his way to Florida, Bush, traveling with daughter Barbara, watched the coverage of the Tour de France, as he has often done in recent days. Taking a break from the bicycle race, Bush linked his fate to that of American cyclist Lance Armstrong, who is vying for his sixth win. "He's going to win and I'm going to win," Bush told reporters on the plane. "There's no need to worry about either race anymore."
did anybody see Lance sprint past Iven Basso and absolutely smoke Jan Ullrich this morning? An awesome stage of an awesome race from the greatest sporting event on the planet. I won't deny the frogs credit, there is something redeemable about France after all.
including a driver for Jordanian-born fugitive and suspected Al Qaeda lieutenant Abu Musab Zarqawi.
So Zarqawi can't get a driver's license?
Done right, it could be devastating.
Nora
is this the POLITICAL STRATEGIZING FOR DUMMIES thread?
I am shocked. But of course I keep working this spark plug in and out of my tender anus. Where's my Thug when I need him.
thief - nobody cares...go mow your lawn.
I'd say the danger is not the beer Bush has with you, but the everclear he's being fed by the pint every time he meets Rumsfeld, Cheney, and Rove out by the dumpster...
It is so fucking easy to scroll right past electionthief and Thug. I live in So. Cal. and I've been trained not to rubber neck at the bloody wrecks all over the freeways.
I don't post many comments and never give attention to the trolls who post, but it's obvious the trolls are running scared.
Sure it's obvious they couldn't make an argument on a factual basis using logic and reason, but the level of mean-spiritedness and frequency of their posts is evidence they're in full panic mode.
I fully expect to see this trend by the trolls continue until they finally explode somewhere around November 2.
I don't post many comments and never give attention to the trolls who post, but it's obvious the trolls are running scared.
Sure it's obvious they couldn't make an argument on a factual basis using logic and reason, but the level of mean-spiritedness and frequency of their posts is evidence they're in full panic mode.
I fully expect to see this trend by the trolls continue until they finally explode somewhere around November 2.
eeeeewwww! troll guts!
I thought that MB Cahill's letter to the Bush campaign this week demanding that Bush release all the information that he's hiding before the Dems would consider releasing the tape of the "hatefest" was a brilliant piece of political judo. Dukkakis wouldn't have done anything like that. I also though that the Kerry statement following Regean's death was very good. I think Kerry really wants to be president, he can taste it, and he's going to fight for it.
Now if he can just stop the Republicans from stealing it.
Of the two tough guys only Kerry actually killed commies.
"eeeeewwww! troll guts!
I have a feeling that they're similar to the grotesque creamy filling that squishes out of those giant flying roaches when you step on them or swat them. Though, hopefully, without the disgusting crunch.
I think Dionne's piece could be profitably read next to Jon Stewart's montage of rethugs repeating the same line over and over again (which I know has been discussed in other threads here). It seems to me that pointing out that this is a canned strategy takes some of its teeth, at least.
It certainly lays it out there for all (who are paying attention) to see. The most obvious point is that the Democrats have never learned to respond in kind. As Stewart said, once a certain phrase gets drilled into your skull, it becomes "the truth." Dems need to come up with a few phrases of their own to describe Dubya and friends and make sure they get similarly repeated ad nauseum. It may not be pretty, it may not be intellectual, but it's effective propaganda technique, especially with the unutterably lazy SCLM.
Uncle $cam,
You're trying to post a link to a file on your hard drive. Which won't work for anyone but YOU. Just send the thing to Holden already, ok?
"Of the two tough guys only Kerry actually killed commies."
Hey, let's be fair--Bush killed some Commies on one of those video games he's so fond of playing when he's not trying to read one-page summaries of incredibly complex international situations that leave out dissenting viewpoints.
I mean, some of those video games are HARD.
"eeeeewwww! troll guts!"
Actually they're not so bad. I've got a recipe - basically just treat 'em like chitlins. I'm planning to serve 'em up with some fried okra, greens and cornbread at my election night party. (Kerry might need a bit of dijon to get 'em down, but John Edwards knows good eating when he see's it. That's why he licks his lips every time he thinks about the debate with Cheney.)
Ooh! a troll-filled page-all defending their miserable failure.
Starting to smell like santorum in here.
I've been thinking for a while that the Rethug playbook was written in '88, with details, like the name of the current Dem nominee, to be filled in as necessary. I agree that it's not surefire, as others have indeed already remarked. Didn't work for Poppy in '92, after all.
But forewarned is forearmed, so kudos to Dionne for the column and Holden for posting it.
It's funny. The trolls are here specifically to get attention and poison the dialogue (i.e. make people turn away) but they only solidify our cause now.
The Repubs are dying a slow, painful death as a party, and this is their last pathetic grasp at power. At least we'll hopefully have true Republicans like John McCain around to rebuild it when the thugs and NeoCons are frog-marched out of the White House.
If I were a REAL conservative, I'd be more pissed off than anyone else. Look at the harm the last few Republican administrations have done to their party by pandering to their extremists. It's really a shame, and I'd be among the first to be voting Bush and his kind OUT if I were one of the Republicans. It's the only chance they have of ever being taken seriously as the party of small government and fiscal conservatism again.
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