Facts only confuse Judy and make her head hurt.
Thersites |
07.23.04 - 11:58 pm | #
"...putting his service..."
I would have guessed he was pulling his service, but whatever..
jimmiraybob |
07.23.04 - 11:59 pm | #
Judy Woodruff is a former smoker.
Anonymous |
07.23.04 - 11:59 pm | #
Smoking has nothing to do with it. She's a dimwit and always has been.
Emily |
07.24.04 - 12:00 am | #
puff puff?
I thought it was "blow, blow"
chica toxica |
07.24.04 - 12:01 am | #
Someone even worse than Kelli Arena.
Judy and Kelli and giving Laurie Dhue a run for the money on the dunce-o-meter.
attaturk |
Homepage |
07.24.04 - 12:04 am | #
When will bloggers around the globe collude and form their own, informed news network?
eric |
07.24.04 - 12:04 am | #
Love that "clarify."
yellowdogfox |
07.24.04 - 12:04 am | #
Sorry for the O.T.
9/11 PDF cleaned up
Glenn Fleishman sez: "Sid Steward is a PDF guru that I've turned to in the past to bookmark and clean up my electronic books. He forwarded a link to a site he's created where he has the 9/11 Commission's report optimized for faster download, and including bookmarks and other PDF add-ons. His site offers a fast full text search of the PDF with links that will open the file and hit those bookmarks." Link
9/11 commission report: How to get a copy online or in hard copy
Here are instructions on how to obtain a copy of the official final report of the 9-11 Commission. The document will be posted online at 11:30 am ET today is now available online at this Link.
The U.S. Government Printing Office offers hard copy, if you prefer. Ask for stock number 041-015-00236-8. This will cost $8.50 plus $4.75 for shipping, (total = $13.25), checks and most major credit cards accepted. Order by phone at 866-512-1800 or on-line, or by mail from Superintendent of Documents, PO Box 371954, Pittsburgh, PA 15250-7954.
You can also obtain a copy of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence's report on the U.S. intelligence community's pre-war assessments on Iraq on-line: Link. The GPO offers printed copies for $51 (stock number 052-071-01415-2, follow order instructions above.)
Update: Reader FerrisB says, "If you'd like to hear the testimonies from the commission hearings, the iTunes store has them available for free in their audiobook section. Link
Update 2: BoingBoing pal John Rambow says, "There's also a trade book edition of the report. It's only $10, and it's probably easier to get and read than the GPO's version. Link"
Update 3: Jason Kottke says, "I've created an HTML version of the 9/11 Commission Executive Summary with permalinks for each paragraph for easy linking and copy/paste. Link
Share and enjoy!
Chris Tucker |
Homepage |
07.24.04 - 12:06 am | #
Reading the transcript makes you realize that Jamie McIntyre is just as big an idiot as Woodruff. He keeps repeating the White House story line about how Bush says he fulfilled his duty over a 12 month period.
kathyp |
07.24.04 - 12:07 am | #
What's amazing is that CNN still has anyone on with any integrity. The fact that Jamie McIntyre actually corrected her determined non-understanding in real time and on the air is pretty remarkable for CNN these days.
Of course, Judy Suckup -- who unlike most of the media whores actually used to be a genuine and credible journalist -- immediately changed the topic.
Steady Eddie |
07.24.04 - 12:07 am | #
Atrios, you need to add her to the list of journalists that you need to ask a single question that's on the minds of blogospheriacs everywhere....
"Are you fucking stupid or just corrupt?"
fourlegsgood |
Homepage |
07.24.04 - 12:08 am | #
What hath happened to thee CBS?
Somewhere Bernie Shaw is crying and Bobbie Batista's eyes have uncrossed.
attaturk |
Homepage |
07.24.04 - 12:09 am | #
Oops, CNN, not CBS...
*grumble, way to make stupid joke even stupider Attaturk.
attaturk |
Homepage |
07.24.04 - 12:10 am | #
So, just to clarify, up is down, correct?
Hecate |
Homepage |
07.24.04 - 12:14 am | #
"Are you fucking stupid or just corrupt?"
We all already know the answer to that. Judy W. was once upon a time a real journalist. It's so sad..
mena |
07.24.04 - 12:19 am | #
>Share and enjoy!
>Chris Tucker
Bloggers are going to have my love child.
Hubris Sonic |
Homepage |
07.24.04 - 12:19 am | #
Fun fact: Judy Woodruff was born in 1925.
oyster |
Homepage |
07.24.04 - 12:21 am | #
Fun fact: Judy Woodruf is a c*nt.
Hubris Sonic |
Homepage |
07.24.04 - 12:23 am | #
I've often emailed CNN and torned a new one for the Jude Girl (doesn't accomplish anything, but I feel better). She's a complete moron (but then so's Wolfie boy...completely useless...and such an obvious Bushie she should wear a "Bush/Chaney 04" button on her lapel. I think the only thing she (and most CNN TV personalities-I refuse to call them journalists or reporters)cares about is her stock portfolio.
I stopped watching CNN 2 months ago. It's toilet water. And, unbelievably, it's what paases for "balanced" news in the US. Thank God for Canada's CBC and England's BBC.
waynorth |
07.24.04 - 12:27 am | #
Speaking of bloggers, tweety announced on the air today that he was going to have a blog at the convention next week. It's going to be called.... wait for it....
Is that fucking hilarious or what? (disclaimer- I was trapped into watching the show because the cat was napping on my stomach... I didn't have the heart to wake him up)
fourlegsgood |
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07.24.04 - 12:28 am | #
Does Atrios do anything else other than watch cable television news?
Does he actually ever read anything.
Or is all the news fit to refer to just visual? Like kindergarten . . .
It's really funny in a sick kind of way. This is their attempt at "unconventional coverage" of the convention.
Hey TWEETY!! you fucking idiot, there's going to be real bloggers there.
fourlegsgood |
Homepage |
07.24.04 - 12:31 am | #
Heh, was Judy Woodruff really born in 1925?
If so, I'd like to strap her ass to a bench, dangling Lucky Strikes, telling her that Big Tobacco is her salvation.
If not, I'd just like to put a big brick through her skull.
And fuck Al Hunt, he needs a brick in the skull also.
I'd be a bit lenient if these whores weren't mostly responsible for the mess were in.
cornfed hick |
07.24.04 - 12:33 am | #
Judy's favorite refrain many afternoons on "inside politics":
"But how is what John Kerry would do in Iraq any different than what president Bush is doing right now?"
Judy's a republican whore, bought and paid for like Blitzer and the others.
control13 |
07.24.04 - 12:33 am | #
Well Mr. Patterson, if he learned that America was under attack, he probably wouldn't sit impotent for seven minutes, with a primer in his lap.
Our lazy President was too busy on his ranch and visiting his brother to pay attention to terrorist threats.
Then when the terrorists attacked and Americans were burning to their deaths, he couldn't leave his photo op. He was reading "The Pet Goat."
Aeolus |
07.24.04 - 12:35 am | #
Fun Fact: Judy Woodruff can smoke a cigarette with her vagina.
Hubris Sonic |
Homepage |
07.24.04 - 12:36 am | #
Her performance during the weeklong Reagan hagiography was also heartwarming.
control13 |
07.24.04 - 12:36 am | #
But can she smoke a cigar withher vagina?
control13 |
07.24.04 - 12:37 am | #
Does Atrios do anything else other than watch cable television news?
Does he actually ever read anything.
Or is all the news fit to refer to just visual? Like kindergarten . . .
.
You mean like Washington Times or UPI? Or how about NYT? Or the WaPo?
Or better yet, Faux News?
ROFL.
Fuck you punk. I'll roll you into my breakfast burrito and burp loudly afterwards.
Here's a clue. There's a ton of job openings (civilian and military) for Iraq duty. Go apply yourself. Become a 'better person'.
cornfed hick |
07.24.04 - 12:37 am | #
Well, when Judy - I'm a Mean Old Bitch and I Have Stupid Hair - Woodruff speaks, then it's all over! I mean, the press has held us in such good stead over the past few years, who are we to question?
FUCK YOU, JUDY!
S in Mich |
Homepage |
07.24.04 - 12:37 am | #
Jano Cabrero, my kind if guy/gal!:
The Democratic National Committee called the ``supposed discovery'' of Bush's payroll records late on Friday -- on the eve of the Democratic National Convention -- ``highly questionable.''
``If the Bush administration continues to search, maybe they'll find answers to the long list of unanswered questions that remain about George W. Bush's time in the Air National Guard. Bush's military records seem to show up as randomly as he did for duty,'' said DNC spokesman Jano Cabrera.
smarty jones |
07.24.04 - 12:38 am | #
Listen, leave W alone. I'm sure that if he knew a war was on, he would have moved heaven and earth to find his unit, show up for his physical, and do his duty. Now back to values. Values values values. America is safer. Values.
Deek |
07.24.04 - 12:39 am | #
Eric's upstream post about bloggers forming their own news show is a great idea. Is their anybody looking into doing this?
Bb |
07.24.04 - 12:41 am | #
fun fact: david patterson can talk with his asshole while explaining the deeper meaning of "my pet goat"
pretzelattack |
07.24.04 - 12:42 am | #
Eric's upstream post about bloggers forming their own news show is a great idea. Is their anybody looking into doing this?
They do well on Air America, by and large.
Thersites |
07.24.04 - 12:44 am | #
At least the Reuters headline comes right out and says it:
Bush's Military Records Fail to Dispel AWOL Charges--Fri Jul 23, 7:15 PM ET
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Some of President Bush's missing Air National Guard records during the Vietnam War years, previously said to be destroyed, turned up on Friday but offered no new evidence to dispel charges by Democrats that he was absent without leave. http://tinyurl.com/5q7es
BigDuck |
Homepage |
07.24.04 - 12:44 am | #
Hardblogger?
I guess "Metamucil" was already taken...
Thersites |
07.24.04 - 12:46 am | #
OT -
Jesus fucking Christ... Fuck Kristof. ( I just wanted to be the first to write this). After his latest column, I, once again, want to kick his fucking teeth in. What the fuck is his problem? (same fucking shit as in every column, blame those who have been fighting for a better future. Fucker.)
Tecla |
07.24.04 - 12:46 am | #
I'm sure the fact that it's Friday night, the day's papers are done, the next day's aren't out yet, things are quiet and slow right now, print-wise, has nothing to do with how the posts start leaning toward what's on TV and the Internet at this hour of a Friday night.
I figure if I repeat certain things often enough, it might sink in.
LJ |
07.24.04 - 12:48 am | #
Jesus fucking Christ... Fuck Kristof.
Well alright. Is he going to the convention?
Atrios, that list is getting mighty long- better eat your wheaties.
fourlegsgood |
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07.24.04 - 12:48 am | #
Listen, leave W alone. I'm sure that if he knew a war was on, he would have moved heaven and earth to find his unit, show up for his physical, and do his duty. Now back to values. Values values values. America is safer. Values.
Deek
Worth repeating! Very funny!
smarty jones |
07.24.04 - 12:50 am | #
Who is more irritating...Kristoff or Friedman?
control13 |
07.24.04 - 12:52 am | #
i'm beginning to dream of a day, hopefully soon, where the mainstream media fuckwits like woodmuffmunch and the rest of her diseased ilk get literally rounded up and term'd on a single day, and replaced by a new crop of revitalized J-school recruits, whose mission is simply to report news as factually as possible -- in a sense, a return to what we had before the fascist right wing began its malevolent takeover of our culture, our language, and our conceptions of reality.
shit, long sentence. sorry. to think i have a degree in english.
Jim in LA |
07.24.04 - 12:52 am | #
"Values values values. America is safer. Values. Kerry's aren't yours. Values. Now watch this drive."
Nick Carraway |
07.24.04 - 12:53 am | #
Bush to blacks at Urban League:
"Take a look at my agenda"
Yeah, like appointing a racist judge and trying to get rid of affirmative action, both on MLK day no less.
control13 |
07.24.04 - 12:57 am | #
Kerry's aren't yours.
Hmm. Go to an Ivy league school. Make money. Live in a nice big mansion on Beacon Hill. Marry a rich woman.
Sounds like something right out of F. Scott Fitzgerald.
Not exactly un Amerken.
SWR |
07.24.04 - 12:58 am | #
And you should know Nick.
SWR |
07.24.04 - 12:58 am | #
Hey, if you can tell by watching "Capitol Gang", Al Hunt is a flaming liberal, reminding me of Bill Press. Every week, Hunt and Mark Shields deliver Bob Novak a much deserved bludgeoning, much as Paul Begala sometimes does on "Crossfire".
Judy is a total whore, as is Kelly Wallace - the blond bimbette with the annoying sqeaky voice and simpering "I love W" permasmirk. Candy and Kelly Arena are totally smitten with the Smirk as well.
pissedoffinaustin |
07.24.04 - 1:02 am | #
Holy crap. Right after the Jamie McIntyre bit in the transcript, there's a whole exchange that reads "Bash Bush" ... that's it, it's official, we're on a mission from God to get this fuckhead out of power.
Demogenes Aristophanes |
Homepage |
07.24.04 - 1:04 am | #
Or is all the news fit to refer to just visual? Like kindergarten . . .
David Patterson
Don't know about DP, but we read books in kindergarten. In fact, all the kids I was with in Kindergarten could read a little, and many could read pretty well.
I guess he had a different experience...which probably explains why he's equally incapable of understanding plain English, and writing competent English.
And why he's too dumb and arrogant to know the difference. Chances are, Republican school-funding cuts are to blame for DP's remedial English skills....one more thing to resent them for!
Philalethes |
07.24.04 - 1:08 am | #
Who's worse: Friedman or Kristoff...?
Friedman or Kristoff....
Friedman or Kristoff...
Now I'll be up all night. Thanks a lot, guys.
LJ |
07.24.04 - 1:09 am | #
Don't diss Judy.
She can mouth those RNC talking points with such conviction!
Surely that calls for our admiration!
Or something.
Wile E. Odysseus |
07.24.04 - 1:09 am | #
Ah, Phila, I love it when you rant in those dulcet tones.
LJ |
07.24.04 - 1:10 am | #
Yeah, Al Hunt did a fantastic job of preventing the Iraq debacle.
Way to go Al! What a journalist! Two thumbs up bro!
The fuck has so much power but all he can do is appear on TV with good hair, and whine liberally.
Fuck him. He isn't a journalist. He is a whore.
cornfed hick |
07.24.04 - 1:10 am | #
Who is more irritating...Kristoff or Friedman?
control13
Oh, Friedman, hands down! "The Lexus and the Olive Tree" is one of the most infuriating books ever written, and Friedman talks in that condescending, sing-song whine...to me, it's no contest.
Philalethes |
07.24.04 - 1:11 am | #
Isn't Al Hunt on the editorial board of the WSJ?
cornfed hick |
07.24.04 - 1:12 am | #
SWR: hey, his values work for me. Pretty much, anyway...
calling it a night here- remember everybody, do as I say-not as I do- and DON'T FEED THE TROLLS.
Nick Carraway |
07.24.04 - 1:13 am | #
"Fun Fact: Judy Woodruff can smoke a cigarette with her vagina."
News you can use: Dave Patterson super number one fucky long time and pussy banana show!
Demogenes Aristophanes |
Homepage |
07.24.04 - 1:13 am | #
"You f$#king son of a b!tch. I saw what you wrote. We're not going to forget this."
-- Bush to then Wall Street Journal Washington bureau chief Al Hunt in a Dallas restaurant in front of other diners, including Hunt's wife, Judy Woodruff, and 4-year-old son, 1986
This is the man she defends every day?
VMA |
07.24.04 - 1:14 am | #
SWR: hey, his values work for me. Pretty much, anyway...
The cure for diseases like Woodruff and the current CNN-GOP lineup is cable a la carte. Let subscribers choose which channels they want to receive. Yes to Comedy Central -- bye-bye, Faux News and CNN.
Batterfry |
07.24.04 - 1:15 am | #
Ah, Phila, I love it when you rant in those dulcet tones.
LJ
Oh, you haven't heard the half of it! I'm going easy on Patterson, lest I wound his fragile ego so badly that he decides to drink a bottle of Liquid Plumber and end it all. I don't want even that pinkish icewater that flows in troll veins on my hands, you know?
Plus, I've got 25mg of valium and a bottle of sake under my belt. My soul runneth over with the milk of human kindness, and I can't help but view half-bright cacozeliacs like Patterson with tender indulgence.
Philalethes |
07.24.04 - 1:17 am | #
Judy is no Nieman Scholar, but she isn't even close to the stupidest person on CNN. Nor is Kelli Arena, Kyra Phillps, or Anderson "the Mole" Cooper. Nope.
It's White House Corespondent Dana Bash. She is a complete fucking idiot. I mean she giggled when Bush snuck off to Iraq last Thanksgiving. Fucking giggled. She was more concerned with her Thanksgiving than her fucking job.
Every time I see her, I wonder how such a stupid person got on TV.
steve_gilliard |
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07.24.04 - 1:17 am | #
Hey VMA, thanks for illuminating exactly what I was trying to get at.
Whores, both of them.
Perhaps a column of Hellfire, from the fingertips of Jesus, will consume them both before the election.
cornfed hick |
07.24.04 - 1:18 am | #
Everything you need to know about Bush, excerpted from David Frum's* "The Right Man":
"The Bush staff rose to their feet with a snap that would have impressed a Prussian field marshal. When Bush was in a kidding mood, he directed the staff like an orchestra conductor: He would press his hands palm down to direct them to sit and then, when they had taken their seats, raise his hands palm up to order them to rise again. Only then would they get the final palms down."
*Presumably pro-Bush and not lying in this rare instance
Demogenes Aristophanes |
Homepage |
07.24.04 - 1:18 am | #
sure sure, but you know who is worse than Al Hunt (but not worse than MR. FUCKER Kristof) ...? That crusty bastard Daniel Shorr, who cribs notes from the Newsweek CW page when spouting his golden wisdom each weekend on NPR.
Tecla |
Homepage |
07.24.04 - 1:19 am | #
It's White House Corespondent Dana Bash. She is a complete fucking idiot. I mean she giggled when Bush snuck off to Iraq last Thanksgiving. Fucking giggled. She was more concerned with her Thanksgiving than her fucking job.
Every time I see her, I wonder how such a stupid person got on TV.
Demogenes Aristophanes .......that Friedman article is a most agregious pile of horseshit. I wouldn't even know where to start the debunking. And he's writing for the "foundation for a new american empire".....that's just beautiful. He now has his own regular show on one of the cable channels where he goes around interviewing pals and isrealis, middle east expert that he is. And also a noted and respected "liberal columnist"...lol
control13 |
07.24.04 - 1:20 am | #
calling it a night here- remember everybody, do as I say-not as I do- and DON'T FEED THE TROLLS.
How about them feeding US? Can we gnaw on their flesh, and pick our teeth with their brittle bones?
Can we cut their throats and drink their blood like wine, as Tampa Red would say?
Philalethes |
07.24.04 - 1:22 am | #
Phila:
My concern with the Liquid Plumber guzzling is the mess it would make on the floor. Good grief, I would never touch any of it, but the floors...! You can just never get that stain out.
And your Valium and Sake match my Tequila and Vicodin quite splendidly. Such an international flair, yes?
Seriously, I hope everything's okay there.
LJ |
07.24.04 - 1:23 am | #
I don't know, Steve. I repect your opinion and all, especially on tasty food recipes, but Kyra ‘Doctor, does he understand why this war took place? Has he talked about Operation Iraqi Freedom and the meaning? Does he understand it?’ Phillps really is the fucking stupidest person on CNN.
Tecla |
07.24.04 - 1:23 am | #
"And your Valium and Sake match my Tequila and Vicodin quite splendidly. Such an international flair, yes?"
And my Everclear and crank! But then I'm in a red state ...
Demogenes Aristophanes |
Homepage |
07.24.04 - 1:26 am | #
I am so glad I don't watch TV. To think that I would actually have to see the ineptitude described here would make me tear out my own eyeballs.
LJ |
07.24.04 - 1:27 am | #
Hey stranger, coming from you, that is the ultimate compliment
Anyhow, about those whores...
cornfed hick |
07.24.04 - 1:28 am | #
From Kristof's column:
"Why not democratize the chance to hear wolves howl or be menaced by grizzlies?"
Hear, hear. You go first, Nick.
VMA |
07.24.04 - 1:28 am | #
Demogenes:
I'm in a red state, too. But at least the tequila is cheap.
LJ |
07.24.04 - 1:29 am | #
Almost all of them suck out loud, why else are we looking forward to Comedy Fucking Central?... Moyers great tonight, Ted Turner on Charlie Rose really nailed the shit home, even very rich businessmen think Bush is a loser, and can't understand why everyone else doesn't...
Ronjazz |
07.24.04 - 1:29 am | #
let me get this straight...Al "mike" Hunt was married to Judy Muffmunch?
And also, someone spoke earlier of terminating all the mainstream whore journalists like Woodruff...I've had fantasies like that, but they're usually about Novak. He's old and a traitor, a burden to society. I envision him being led out to a field, given a last cigarette, and then shot.
control13 |
07.24.04 - 1:29 am | #
Listerine and all weather anti-freeze does me just fine, w/ a splash of Robitussin DM.
Tecla |
07.24.04 - 1:29 am | #
I don't know who was reporting on this, because I tuned in late, but NPR had a story on ATC about the Dem Convention, the gist of which was that it was a disaster, and no one in Boston wanted it there, and the whole city was resentful and bitter and hated the Democrats' guts. It was presented as pretty much the biggest fasco in American political history; the minor technical detail that the convention hadn't even happened yet was never allowed to get in the way of the Deeper Truth (i.e., Democrats are stupid, inept, and loathed by all good-hearted people).
The next story was an opinion piece explaining that Bush had done the right thing by snubbing the NAACP, who were a bunch of out-of-touch malcontents with nothing to offer anyone.
The wingnuts are right...why listen to AAR when we've got NPR?
Philalethes |
07.24.04 - 1:30 am | #
Woodruff's CNN commercial says it all:
"Judy Woodruff ...answering the questions you want answered" - cut to Judy - "how do you answer the critics of President Bush?"
so, watch this shit show and learn how to spin our shit President to your sensible friends at the office ...
Damfa |
Homepage |
07.24.04 - 1:30 am | #
Can we gnaw on their flesh, and pick our teeth with their brittle bones?
Man, you can if you want, but I'm not eating anything that smells like semen rubbed into a sweatsock stuffed behind Mommy's couch for two weeks.
Thersites |
07.24.04 - 1:31 am | #
Just wanted to share this exchange, it's priceless
Simple question, David.
Who is Robert Rice?
C'mon, you know this one, right?
Central Scrutinizer | Email | Homepage | 07.24.04 - 12:46 am | #
Another hint, David Patterson.
That's Robert Rice Ph.D.
Still waiting, David.
Central Scrutinizer | Email | Homepage | 07.24.04 - 12:51 am | #
Are you going to send "Dr. Robert Rice" to come kill me?
Could you at least E-mail me a pic of him, so I know what to expect?
.
David Patterson | Email | Homepage | 07.24.04 - 1:01 am | #
I can appreciate the fact that David Patterson ignores me, because he really doesn't know who Robert Rice is, though if he was what he claims to be (A D.C.schoolteacher), he surely would know that Robert Rice is the Superintendent of the District of Columbia Public Schools, where he claims to be a schoolteacher.
LIAR
Central Scrutinizer | Email | Homepage | 07.24.04 - 1:02 am | #
no imagination |
07.24.04 - 1:32 am | #
I can appreciate the fact that David Patterson ignores me, because he really doesn't know who Robert Rice is, though if he was what he claims to be (A D.C.schoolteacher), he surely would know that Robert Rice is the Superintendent of the District of Columbia Public Schools, where he claims to be a schoolteacher.
Busted.
But a good troll can usually come up with answer. Let's see how he resonds.
SWR |
07.24.04 - 1:34 am | #
Damfa -
That's really in a Woodruff commercial?
The reason I ask is because I swear I saw the exact same line in a spot for von Zahn...
CNN. Creepitude abounds.
And as far as a fitting end for the media whores - can we all chip in and buy an abbatoir and a couple of buses?
stranger |
Homepage |
07.24.04 - 1:35 am | #
Correction. A good troll is *at his best* when he's caught. A good troll with lie shameless exactly when he's caught. Let's see if Dave's the real deal.
SWR |
07.24.04 - 1:35 am | #
Can we gnaw on their flesh, and pick our teeth with their brittle bones?
Man, you can if you want, but I'm not eating anything that smells like semen rubbed into a sweatsock stuffed behind Mommy's couch for two weeks.
I'm with Thersites on this one. I wouldn't put that in my mouth, either. No telling where it's been, Thersites's colorful example being a real, but not the worst, possibility.
LJ |
07.24.04 - 1:35 am | #
Seriously, I hope everything's okay there.
LJ
Oh, it's fine. I had to have a follow-up test after seeing the doc last week...and in a situation where I'm offered a free 25mg dose of valium, you can bet I'm gonna take it. Driving home was interesting...but no harm done!
Nothing the matter whatsoever...but thanks for your concern! Now, I'm ready to lick my weight in David Pattersons.
Or LJs, for that matter!
Philalethes |
07.24.04 - 1:35 am | #
to think i have a degree in english.
We all have our crosses to bear.
fourlegsgood |
Homepage |
07.24.04 - 1:36 am | #
Are you going to send "Dr. Robert Rice" to come kill me?
Could you at least E-mail me a pic of him, so I know what to expect?
.
David Patterson | Email | Homepage | 07.24.04 - 1:01 am | #
WTF dude. There's Islamofacist Hoardes coming to kill you. Why should we even bother?
That K00L-AID tastes good, doesn't it?
cornfed hick |
07.24.04 - 1:36 am | #
Phila:
I'm glad to hear that.
Now, I'm ready to lick my weight in David Pattersons.
Or LJs, for that matter!
For the first time in my life I may be wishing for a 20-ton man...
LJ |
07.24.04 - 1:38 am | #
Man, you can if you want, but I'm not eating anything that smells like semen rubbed into a sweatsock stuffed behind Mommy's couch for two weeks.
Thersites
Thersites, as per usual your razor-sharp mind has cut to the heart of the situation with deadly accuracy! Forget I said anything.
Philalethes |
07.24.04 - 1:38 am | #
Okay, here's the response. He needs to google it and show us if this is indeed true:
Jesus o Jesus. He's an interim leader, appointed at the end of the past school year, and not expected to serve after the beginning of the forthcoming. At least that was the plan. We can't seem to find anyone else to take the position, so he may end up with it. As for me, I am in the charter system.
Which will no doubt horrify you.
I know how tough it is to accept the notion that black and poor people should be able to choose their kids' schools, but there it is . . .
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David Patterson | Email | Homepage | 07.24.04 - 1:13 am | #
no imagination |
07.24.04 - 1:38 am | #
For the first time in my life I may be wishing for a 20-ton man...
Or better yet, a 20-tongue man...
Philalethes |
07.24.04 - 1:40 am | #
Jesus o Jesus. He's an interim leader, appointed at the end of the past school year, and not expected to serve after the beginning of the forthcoming. At least that was the plan. We can't seem to find anyone else to take the position, so he may end up with it. As for me, I am in the charter system.
Decent recovery. Enough to let him go on trolling. B+/A-
The important thing isn't that anybody believe it, but that he's able to generate a response and be shameless about it.
You sent him to the canvass but he's not out yet.
SWR |
07.24.04 - 1:40 am | #
"NPR had a story on ATC about the Dem Convention, the gist of which was that it was a disaster, and no one in Boston wanted it there, and the whole city was resentful and bitter and hated the Democrats' guts."
I work in Boston and the drumbeat on this has been non-stop for months. It is being fueled by the Herald, which has run a spread daily under the banner "DNC Mess" featuring 2 cartoon donkeys braying wildly. Repub Gov. Romney has been trying to sabotage the convention. He tried to get the city to move it to a remote exhibition hall near Quincy (low ceilin, bad sight lines) and has used every tool in his arsenal (state police, state agencies) to impede it. The secret service has chipped in with a raft of burdensome demands. There have been scare stories about traffic being unable to move and the city closing down.
Strangely, no panic in NYC, where we have a sitting president appearing in the heart of the capital market. What's different? Maybe the fact that NY has a repub governor?
VMA |
07.24.04 - 1:40 am | #
I know how tough it is to accept the notion that black and poor people should be able to choose their kids' schools, but there it is . . .
If there's a Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Straw Men, someone really ought to tip them off about David Patterson.
Philalethes |
07.24.04 - 1:42 am | #
control13:
"Woodruff's husband, Al Hunt, is the executive Washington editor of the The Wall Street Journal and a panelist on CNN's political talk show The Capital Gang. Woodruff and Hunt have three children and reside in Washington, DC."
Like Carville and Matalin, a horizontally integrated Washington power couple. No matter who's in power, they thrive. Which, after all, is the root of the problem with the media. It's all about access and stardom.
VMA |
07.24.04 - 1:45 am | #
David,
You were calling your "black and poor" students the big "N" a few days ago. Is that a term of affection? Your hearty shouldering of the white man's burden is duly noted.
Logansquare |
07.24.04 - 1:46 am | #
Dear Atrios,
I, too, share disappointment in Judy's ignorant comments. But you don't have to call her a "slut" to get your point across. You only muddle it in many gender-conscious minds.
Every time I see her, I wonder how such a stupid person got on TV.
Maybe she gives good head?
fourlegsgood |
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07.24.04 - 1:48 am | #
Or better yet, a 20-tongue man...
[almost in a hopeless shag daze at the thought of such a thing]
I think I need to go over to Adultfriendfinder and torture a few unsuspecting souls there...
Who knows, I might find the 20-tongue man there, given the mutant factor of the majority of its, er, members.
LJ |
07.24.04 - 1:48 am | #
BTW, I don't have any problem believing that Patterson's a teacher; the world is full of ignorant, arrogant, lingustically bankrupt teachers. I had a fifth-grade teacher who got angry because I used the word "allusion"; she marked it as a misspelling.
I doubt, however, that he works with minority kids because my wife's in that line of work, and I've met a lot of people in that field, and they simply don't talk the way he does. Not that everyone's a liberal, of course...but the sort of arrogant simplemindedness he evinces here really isn't a feasible attitude in that profession. There are real legal and professional and even physical consequences to it. Just a hunch, though.
Philalethes |
07.24.04 - 1:49 am | #
"you don't have to call her a "slut" to get your point across."
In defense of Atrios, Shawn, that's a reference to the classic and fondly remembered parody of 60 minutes' "point counterpoint" done by Dan Ackroyd and Jane Curtin. Regrettably, I remember it like yesterday, though it took place in the 1970's.....
VMA |
07.24.04 - 1:55 am | #
Just a hunch, though.
Correcto-mundo my friend.
What's funny about this guy is he really believes he's clever. LOL.
He writes like a first year business school student who's attempting to channel William Safire.
fourlegsgood |
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07.24.04 - 1:55 am | #
Who knows, I might find the 20-tongue man there, given the mutant factor of the majority of its, er, members.
Well, if it doesn't work out, let me know. Frankly, I'm not sure you'd notice that much of a difference!
Philalethes |
07.24.04 - 1:56 am | #
I hope all the smartypants Democratic operatives watched tonight's NOW with George Lakoff.
Every time I see her, I wonder how such a stupid person got on TV.
Funny. Ever time I see her, I think of the Ellen DeGeneris fish from Finding Nemo.
grr |
07.24.04 - 2:01 am | #
Philalethes --
I agree. He could very well be a teacher. The world is unfortunately full of patronizing, ignorant, and self-aggrandizing teachers.
I remember the C I got for writing an "obviously plagerized" report (on Pirates! Very fun.) in 10th grade. "It's too well written." the dumbass teacher said. It was the first writing assignment he'd given us, the first class of his career. The rest of the staff just laughed at him when I protested my grade because I was known for being a good writer at the school.
Then there was the teacher (this is in a public school) that made us either do 10 pushups in class or write an essay and read it aloud as punishment for saying "god" in class -- as in "oh my god!" etc. I chose the essay of course, and chose as my topic why he was wrong in having a rule like that. So I read it to the class, and he admitted that I was right, but said that since it was his class, he made the rules, and the rule stayed.
I can see our Mr. Patterson operating in a similar manner.
MoniCA |
07.24.04 - 2:02 am | #
He writes like a first year business school student who's attempting to channel William Safire.
I know what you mean, but I see it is trying to channel NR writers two or three times removed from WFB Jr. He's got the affectless tone, without any kinda rhetorical or emotional dynamics. And he's got the bare bones of the syntax, but without the grasp of grammer or word meanings. Basically, he internalized the pretension, and didn't bother learning anything that would back it up.
Philalethes |
07.24.04 - 2:02 am | #
Then there was the teacher (this is in a public school) that made us either do 10 pushups in class or write an essay and read it aloud as punishment for saying "god" in class -- as in "oh my god!"
That hilarious! I had an algebra teacher who'd punish people by assigning 500-word essays. I turned in 500 words' worth of Victorian pornography, which cut off right before penetration...figured I'd not only make fun of his policy, but leave him hanging as well!
Philalethes |
07.24.04 - 2:05 am | #
Dear Atrios,
I am an ignorant slut. (Missed the SNL reference.) Thanks for clarifying, VMA.
Only a lit road flare shoved up his ass could possibly bring a glint of wisdom to his eyes.
thoughtcrime |
07.24.04 - 2:07 am | #
VMA,
Don't feel bad. I'm on the back-end of my twenties, and I remember it. Course, it's mainly because that's how my mother would respond to dumbass statements by my brother and I if she was in a good mood.
Odd woman, my mother.
Backslider |
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07.24.04 - 2:08 am | #
Sadly, we haven't seen how far Judy's tongue will stretch up Bush's ass. What a joke she is.
onehandle |
07.24.04 - 2:08 am | #
Y'all are missing the fun down at the Woodruff thread. DP just invited me to drinks in DC.
LJ |
07.24.04 - 2:10 am | #
Sadly, we haven't seen how far Judy's tongue will stretch up Bush's ass.
Hard to quantify unless you know how far she can get her head up there...
Philalethes |
07.24.04 - 2:12 am | #
LJ,
Don't go. He probably waters down his whiskey.
Backslider |
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07.24.04 - 2:14 am | #
Well, if it doesn't work out, let me know. Frankly, I'm not sure you'd notice that much of a difference!
But will you let me torture you, darling, like the AFF boys do?
And whatever will I do about my new ardent admirer, DP? Or do I just stand him up like I've done to hundreds others like him?
I really liked David Patterson's talking about driving by in a newish Mercedes! On a teacher's pay!
r.l. |
07.24.04 - 2:17 am | #
Atrios, I think a few people are too young to remember the real SNL. Pre-"girlie men".
Is it me, or has a lot of CNN help migrated to MSNBC and CBS the last couple of years?
Darwin |
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07.24.04 - 2:17 am | #
Basically, he internalized the pretension, and didn't bother learning anything that would back it up.
He apparently didn't learn the first rule of writing either. Be clear. Be concise.
Or the second rule- don't insult your readers by being an asshole.
fourlegsgood |
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07.24.04 - 2:18 am | #
And whatever will I do about my new ardent admirer, DP? Or do I just stand him up like I've done to hundreds others like him?
Handcuff him to the bed, stick a pickle in his ass, call 9/11, and leave.
Philalethes |
07.24.04 - 2:19 am | #
It was always fun to watch the kids that took the pushups. I realized after writing the essay was actually a sick sort of entertainment he was facilitating for himself and those of us who wrote the essay. No one could avoid breaking the rule. Not in the 80's.
Oh and the art teacher who freaked out and confiscated pictures the stoner kids would draw of Metallica album covers because they were Satanic!
Victorian pornography... that's pretty good. I was quite the strident young radical, myself.
But for every one of the above there's the one that will go off on tangents about the Kennedy assination, or how FDR let Pearl Harbor happen on purpose. And there was the English teacher that had us read things like A Modest Proposal and the Trial... The history professor who, to our hoots and embarassed laughter, explained the binging up of young men in Ancient Greece with seriousness that put the tittering to a stop so we could get on with the lesson.
MoniCA |
07.24.04 - 2:20 am | #
But will you let me torture you, darling, like the AFF boys do?
Don't know the AFF boys, sorry to say. Should I?
Philalethes |
07.24.04 - 2:21 am | #
Don't go. He probably waters down his whiskey.
Hell, he'd probably slip her a roofie.
fourlegsgood |
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07.24.04 - 2:21 am | #
Handcuff him to the bed, stick a pickle in his ass, call 9/11, and leave.
I don't know. I don't think I'd get anywhere near his ass.
He's so full of shit it might be dangerous.
fourlegsgood |
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07.24.04 - 2:23 am | #
But for every one of the above there's the one that will go off on tangents about the Kennedy assination,
I had a Western Civ teacher who literally didn't want to talk about ANYTHING but Alcoa's dealings in Central America.
Philalethes |
07.24.04 - 2:24 am | #
Handcuff him to the bed, stick a pickle in his ass, call 9/11, and leave.
I don't know. I don't think I'd get anywhere near his ass.
I'll rephrase that: FORCE him to stick the pickle in his ass, THEN handcuff him to the bed.
Philalethes |
07.24.04 - 2:26 am | #
Hah! The Bush Administration is a recruiting poster for conspiracy-obsessed liberal arts teachers everywhere!
MoniCA |
07.24.04 - 2:27 am | #
Yeah david patterson we all know how well charter schools are doing!
r.l. |
07.24.04 - 2:28 am | #
Judy Woodruff and the rest of the CNN crew need to grow a brain. They are too busy thinking about RNC talking points that they don't even know how to digest new information or ask coherent follow up questions. Check out Wolf Blitzer's visit to the Daily Show, and how blasé he is about the entire Iraq scandal.
Regarding Al Hunt, he's one of the few guys on CNN that I really like. He takes it to Bob Novak every week. Just because he works for WSJ doesn't mean you can blame him for their editorials. He doesn't write them, at least not the ones that get on our nerves.
Sage, Hollywood |
07.24.04 - 2:28 am | #
Honey, I wouldn't do that to a pickle.
How about a Bush bobblehead doll then?
Philalethes |
07.24.04 - 2:29 am | #
Phila:
The Bush flight jockey doll!
LJ |
07.24.04 - 2:31 am | #
Okay, the ultimate irony:
David invited me to drinks...because he thought I was a MAN!
LJ |
07.24.04 - 2:33 am | #
Phila:
The Bush flight jockey doll!
Great idea! I hate to think of you dirtying your hands though...how's about you lure him back to a motel room, I'll knock him unconscious, then we can dress him up in some sort of skimpy finery and dump him on the Capitol Mall.
And if there's any time left over, you can explain the ins-and-outs of this AFF thing...
Philalethes |
07.24.04 - 2:36 am | #
"So, Jamie, to clarify, the fact that my eyes don't detect any clothes on the Emperor indicates the particularly fine quality of material from which his wardrobe is made, am I correct?"
this pretty much rivals Ari Fleischer's statement, "I think the burden is on those people who think he didn't have weapons of mass destruction to tell the world where they are."
or that whole "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence" rejection of empirical study in favor of wishful thinking
bz |
07.24.04 - 2:38 am | #
David invited me to drinks...because he thought I was a MAN!
LJ
You seem to have that problem pretty often!
Philalethes |
07.24.04 - 2:38 am | #
Man LJ, you're really busy. No wonder you're havin' a hard time keeping track- first it's drinks, then you find out he really wanted a guy. Must be a bit flustering.
no imagination |
07.24.04 - 2:39 am | #
I'll rephrase that: FORCE him to stick the pickle in his ass, THEN handcuff him to the bed.
Well, okay then.
She still needs to stand well away from him though.
fourlegsgood |
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07.24.04 - 2:46 am | #
I know. Tis my curse. (Why? WHY? Is there testosterone in my word choices?)
But I do seem to recall correcting him on that mistake a few days ago....
Anyway, I'm for dumping in front of Jerry Falwell Ministries.
Now about these ins and outs...
LJ |
07.24.04 - 2:50 am | #
Where's David? awwww, I wandered into the wrong thread!
Big Mammma |
07.24.04 - 2:50 am | #
Backslider:
Sounds like your mother did a good job.
Did she ever tell you about the SNL skit where Spider Sabich was repeatedly, and "accidentally shot" by Claudine Longet? Before they did that skit it was literally unthinkable to do.
Now, every time I hear about the Bush records being "inadvertently" lost, or "inadvertently destroyed", or "inadvertently reported lost or destroyed", I keep seeing poor Spider gamely getting up after another face plant only to, once again, be "accidentally shot" by the forever blameless Claudine.
VMA |
07.24.04 - 2:51 am | #
I was just reading that Patterson thread LJ was talking about. I kind of feel bad for him.
There was this guy I used to work with who'd come up and spew Repub talkng points. And I'd debunk them and he'd say "Well you might have a point." And then he'd come up with another the next day. He was always perfectly polite, and folded the minute I gave him any hard facts.
I think more than anything he was just lonely.
DP's not really like that, obviously, but in the last thread there did suddenly seem to be some kind of sad neediness behind his belligerence.
Man, if valium and booze get me feeling sorry for an ill-mannered, dishonest cipher like DP...it's time to sober up.
Philalethes |
07.24.04 - 2:53 am | #
Now about these ins and outs...
LJ
Maybe Atrios needs to open a new thread for this discussion! Sort of the blog equivalent of "Get a room!"
Philalethes |
07.24.04 - 2:56 am | #
Man, if valium and booze get me feeling sorry for an ill-mannered, dishonest cipher like DP...it's time to sober up.
No, the effect of booze and sedatives just makes you more compassionate, hence why such behavior is frowned upon in GOP circles.
Steve in CO |
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07.24.04 - 2:58 am | #
I was just reading that Patterson thread LJ was talking about. I kind of feel bad for him.
That thread got really weird; rhetorically, DP is sort of lying there like a little puppy asking LJ to scratch his tummy. It's kinda gross.
Thersites |
07.24.04 - 2:59 am | #
No, the effect of booze and sedatives just makes you more compassionate, hence why such behavior is frowned upon in GOP circles.
I guess that's why they prefer cocaine, which turns you into a self-aggrandizing egomaniac with delusions of grandeur?
Philalethes |
07.24.04 - 3:00 am | #
anonymous in nc,
your blank post at 2:26am just blew my fucking mind, man.
Jefe |
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07.24.04 - 3:02 am | #
Phila:
I was thinking the same thing.
It's not such a game anymore after that...
LJ |
07.24.04 - 3:02 am | #
The compassion thing that is.
Now the get a room thing...!
LJ |
07.24.04 - 3:03 am | #
That thread got really weird; rhetorically, DP is sort of lying there like a little puppy asking LJ to scratch his tummy. It's kinda gross.
Well, at least we no longer think he's a Commodore 64 program.
Great to see trolls picthing woo at Eschaton regulars, though...isn't there some troll code of ethics that forbids offscreen fraternizing with "foul-mouthed, childish, ignorant America-hating leftists"?
Philalethes |
07.24.04 - 3:04 am | #
Phila:
By now you know that what they SAY and what they DO (or will do, as in sex...partners) are two different things.
LJ |
07.24.04 - 3:06 am | #
BTW, LJ...what's the vicodin for? Nothing serious, I hope?
Philalethes |
07.24.04 - 3:08 am | #
By now you know that what they SAY and what they DO (or will do, as in sex...partners) are two different things.
But who's "they"?
Philalethes |
07.24.04 - 3:10 am | #
isn't there some troll code of ethics that forbids offscreen fraternizing with "foul-mouthed, childish, ignorant America-hating leftists"?
So many of the right-wing sites are so obsessed with the anti-war movement that I'd be highly surprised if the average Freeper doesn't really fantasize about getting taken home by unwashed masked anarchists.
SWR |
07.24.04 - 3:11 am | #
Phila:
I had surgery about a month ago, which is why I'm on here so much now--Recuperation is boring. Thanks to modern technology and the luck of having good health insurance, I'm good as new.
Thanks so much for asking.
LJ |
07.24.04 - 3:12 am | #
isn't there some troll code of ethics that forbids offscreen fraternizing with "foul-mouthed, childish, ignorant America-hating leftists"?
By now you know that what they SAY and what they DO (or will do, as in sex...partners) are two different things.
I'd be highly surprised if the average Freeper doesn't really fantasize about getting taken home by unwashed masked anarchists.
I'm sure you're right...although the fantasies are probably pretty fucking unwholesome and misgynistic...
I don't even want to speculate about it, really. And maybe this is completely off-the-wall, but I really do subscribe to that Wilhelm Reich notion that sexually content and comfortable people are not drawn to authoritarian politics. I mean "comfortable and content" in the sense of "interested in mutual pleasure," instead of treating sex as some sort of weird zero-sum conflict. I'm sure there are exceptions, but I've always felt it was a good rule of thumb.
Philalethes |
07.24.04 - 3:18 am | #
Phila:
I had surgery about a month ago, which is why I'm on here so much now--Recuperation is boring.
Oh, OK. Well best wishes...yadda yadda yadda. I guess that means you weren't REALLY going to hit the town with me on your evening gown...foul temptress!
I'm almost tempted to say what they did to me today that necessitated the valium...but I'm trying not to think about it!
Philalethes |
07.24.04 - 3:20 am | #
I'm sure you're right...although the fantasies are probably pretty fucking unwholesome and misgynistic...
The typical Freeper *used to* seem to me like a misfit who felt rejected even by the rejects.
I have a friend who to this day hates free verse poetry and affects this dry white guy persona simply because he got turned down by this cool black free verse poet when he was growing up in LA.
I have no doubt that Charles Johnson got dissed by some Olympia hippie chick in his late teens/early 20s.
The problem now is that the Republicans have tapped into this feeling of rejection so successfully they warped populism into some kind of worship of resentiment.
They'd all secretely love to be John Kerry too. Who wouldn't? The typical redneck would love to own a house on Beacon Hill. They're not that stupid.
SWR |
07.24.04 - 3:21 am | #
Philalethes,
That does seem to fit really well... like a glove, actually.
The problem now is that the Republicans have tapped into this feeling of rejection so successfully they warped populism into some kind of worship of resentiment.
Or if not worship, they at least treat it as something noble and reasonable...and as something that says more about society than about themselves. Whereas in cases where I'm resentful (which are really pretty rare), my response is "What's wrong with me? Why am I letting this bother me? What's missing from MY life that would lead me to care about what's going on in someone else's?"
I have to confess that I used to think that basically everyone was the same...that they knew the difference between right and wrong, but couldn't always act on it out of selfishness, fear, or what have you. I based that on having done a buch of rotten stuff my own self, which I knew was rotten at the time. And it's a difficult emotional stretch for me to believe that some people are not acting AGAINST their better instincts, but acting ON the only instincts they have. I feel very naive saying this at 38...but it really does seem that there are people who simply don't have better natures, at all. What does one do about people like that? I don't have the faintest idea, personally.
Philalethes |
07.24.04 - 3:31 am | #
Whereas in cases where I'm resentful (which are really pretty rare), my response is "What's wrong with me? Why am I letting this bother me? What's missing from MY life that would lead me to care about what's going on in someone else's?"
I've gotten to the point where I don't see society as "inside" and "outside" but as "10000 little cliques/groups."
It's hard to be resentful when you see being outside of a group as being outside of one of 10000 groups.
SWR |
07.24.04 - 3:35 am | #
Great to see trolls picthing woo at Eschaton regulars, though...isn't there some troll code of ethics that forbids offscreen fraternizing with "foul-mouthed, childish, ignorant America-hating leftists"?
I wish there was a rule against "on-line" fraternizing. Then they'd stay the fuck away.
I feel very naive saying this at 38...but it really does seem that there are people who simply don't have better natures, at all. What does one do about people like that? I don't have the faintest idea, personally.
I think I figured that out about your age too. Depressing, isn't it? What does one do? hope like hell they get struck by lightning.
fourlegsgood |
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07.24.04 - 3:36 am | #
I see. The big item of the day is Bush's Air National Guard paystubs from 30+ yrs ago.
*cough*
How about this for the big item: Sandy Berger has just sunk the Dhimmicratic Party.
Oh, OK. Well best wishes...yadda yadda yadda. I guess that means you weren't REALLY going to hit the town with me on your evening gown...foul temptress!
Hmph. Don't ask what I was doing only a few days after the surgery. No, I'll tell you. I went shopping. I went out and drank myself under a table. I drove to Austin, for something to do...Had dinner out. And other things. I was entirely mobile within three days.
And ON my evening gown? Well, you naughty devil, you!
I agree with you entirely regarding sex and authoritarianism. If you're getting laid well on a regular basis, or at least if your attitude about sex is loving and fun yet still respectful, yeah, you're probably not interested in treating it like a war game, and that crosses over into your other attitudes.
LJ |
07.24.04 - 3:38 am | #
Sandy Berger has just sunk the Dhimmicratic Party.
Toby. I'm getting on a plane in an hour.
If I run into the Syrian musicians, what should I do? Tackle all 15 of them myself? Jump to protect the white women? Pull out my handy New Testment and try to turn them to Jesus?
I don't know why you ostriches are down on CNN. They're on Terry McAuliffe's joint 24-7.
Toby Petzold |
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07.24.04 - 3:41 am | #
I don't know SWR. Are you gonna be on a plane full of fellow travelers? My answer depends on that.
Toby Petzold |
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07.24.04 - 3:42 am | #
I don't know why you ostriches are down on CNN. They're on Terry McAuliffe's joint 24-7.
Toby Petzold | Email | Homepage | 07.24.04 - 3:41 am | #
I think that maybe at the first sight of Syrians with musical instruments I'll turn into Lancelot from The Holy Grail.
AH HA. Foul Islamofacists and frighteners of white women. Feel my hard Christian steel. Bow down and worship Jesus and the US of A.
SWR |
07.24.04 - 3:43 am | #
Weep for your liberty What are the constitutional merits of the free speech cage?
Weep for your country.
Uncle $cam |
07.24.04 - 3:45 am | #
How about this for the big item? Putzold blows goats, and President Kerry's going to put the F-102 back into service just so Chimpy can complete his obligation to the Guard. In Iraq.
anonymous in nc |
07.24.04 - 3:46 am | #
Drop the French Fries thou Islamic beast and move away from the bathroom!!!
SWR |
07.24.04 - 3:46 am | #
OT:
Congress was used for a Moon crowning...on two separate occasions. New photographs show that the Washington Post's account is (maybe unknowingly) protecting a bunch of Congressmen who attended a Feb. 4 crowning for Moon, almost two months before the ceremony that became a public debacle.
R. Robot |
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07.24.04 - 3:46 am | #
SWR, how is your anti-Xian bigotry relevant to the fact that Sandy Berger and Joe Wilson are liars who have irredeemably damaged John Kerry's chances at the White House?
Toby Petzold |
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07.24.04 - 3:48 am | #
Monty Python skit:
Arthur: But you killed 15 Syrians!!!
Lancelot: For God's sake man, they had French Fries. They could have killed us all.
SWR |
07.24.04 - 3:48 am | #
I really do subscribe to that Wilhelm Reich notion that sexually content and comfortable people are not drawn to authoritarian politics.
I think there's some sort of conection between extreme politics and sex, having something to do with the intensity of desire invested in a fetish object. Naziism and S&M have obvious affinities, to pick an easy example (I could pick a harder one if I were more awake).
I have to say though that I diasagree with Reich that the best way to a woman's uterus is through the nostrils.
Thersites |
07.24.04 - 3:49 am | #
SWR, how is your anti-Xian bigotry relevant to the fact that Sandy Berger and Joe Wilson are liars who have irredeemably damaged John Kerry's chances at the White House?
Dude. I'm about to face French Fry and Musical Instrument wielding Syrians and you're bringing up John Kerry.
Oh sir, little have you learned the lessons of 9/11.
SWR |
07.24.04 - 3:49 am | #
If I run into the Syrian musicians, what should I do?
Of course you should ask them to jam!
That would be mega-cool and would be sure to explode at least one winger's head on the plane.
fourlegsgood |
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07.24.04 - 3:52 am | #
SWR, be careful though, they might be wielding plastic forks.
And they might really, really have to pee.
fourlegsgood |
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07.24.04 - 3:53 am | #
Thersites...
I dunno about that nostrils thing, man. I've turned off on some dudes I otherwise liked and found attractive, without understanding why.
And then it would hit me that they SMELLED wrong. It's not that they were dirty or used bad cologne, or whatever. It was their personal smell. I can smell it under soap, cologne, whatever. And it either attracts or it doesn't.
But that's me. I wouldn't presume to speak for other women.
LJ |
07.24.04 - 3:58 am | #
I have to say though that I diasagree with Reich that the best way to a woman's uterus is through the nostrils.
Oh, there's LOTS to disagree with in Reich! But there is definitely a linkage between sexual repression--or sexual shame--and bad politics. (Interestingly, I think it was Harry Stack Sullivan who argued that no one who'd had a satisfying sexual relationship later became schizophrenic...no idea if that's true or even coherent...but that's what he thought.) As far as Reich's orgasm-as discharge-of-DOR thing goes, it did seem to me that the most catastrophically neurotic women I've known were the most orgasmic (with a couple notable exceptions), but this is a slippery slope and best not discussd at 1 AM while drunk. Basically, all the major psychologists were at least as nuts as any of their patients!
Philalethes |
07.24.04 - 4:08 am | #
SWR, how is your anti-Xian bigotry relevant to the fact that Sandy Berger and Joe Wilson are liars who have irredeemably damaged John Kerry's chances at the White House?
Toby Petzold
Don't you have the entrails of a chicken to view to divine the future or something?
Incognito |
07.24.04 - 4:14 am | #
Hey Incog,
he's probably one of those dudes who got caught on tape torturing chickens.
Did you just get off work?
fourlegsgood |
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07.24.04 - 4:18 am | #
Stranger -
"That's really in a Woodruff commercial? The reason I ask is because I swear I saw the exact same line in a spot for von Zahn..."
Yeah , you know you are probably right about that...it's just that keeping all these scrawny hacks straight is tough i guess ... don;t want to disinform regarding the disinformants
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07.24.04 - 4:21 am | #
Did you just get off work?
fourlegsgood
Yeah, and I'm so tired. Trying to drink a beer but only getting a headache. Not sleeping much these days and only got a few hours of sleep last night. Hopefully, I will sleep late into tomorrow instead of waking up like a nut after only a few hours of sleep tonight. I'm serious, it doesn't matter how tired I am, I sleep only 6 hours max and then my ass wakes up and I can't go back to sleep.
Incognito |
07.24.04 - 4:24 am | #
I'm serious, it doesn't matter how tired I am, I sleep only 6 hours max and then my ass wakes up and I can't go back to sleep.
Incognito
I feel ya. I've got the same problem. Some nights, I literally feel like I've been plugged into a wall socket. Although taking two benadryl usually gets me to sleep eventually...
Philalethes |
07.24.04 - 4:28 am | #
I feel ya. I've got the same problem. Some nights, I literally feel like I've been plugged into a wall socket. Although taking two benadryl usually gets me to sleep eventually...
Philalethes
I haven't a well rested sleep in a very long time. I'm just tense all the time. It's like my body gets just enough rest to go on but immediately wakes up after that to get on with it again.
Incognito |
07.24.04 - 4:32 am | #
I've got the same problem too. I usually conk out and have a nightmare, then wake up after less than an hour of sleep. I think we've all got a case of existential dread.
I've been sleeping about 5-6 hours a night during the week. I can usually sleep in on the weekends. I should be asleep now, instead I'm hanging out with you degenerates, talking about philosophy and disco.
I'm going to grab the cat and try to crash.
fourlegsgood |
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07.24.04 - 4:33 am | #
I'm going to grab the cat and try to crash.
fourlegsgood
Nite nite. I'm going to hang a little more and try to unwind after work.
Incognito |
07.24.04 - 4:37 am | #
Later dude, get some rest.
fourlegsgood |
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07.24.04 - 4:37 am | #
Hey Incog, have you escaped your red state yet?
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07.24.04 - 4:45 am | #
I haven't a well rested sleep in a very long time. I'm just tense all the time. It's like my body gets just enough rest to go on but immediately wakes up after that to get on with it again.
Incognito
I wish I knew what the solution to that was. I guess different things work for different people. In my case, it's kind of a bipolar thing, I think. Because when it really hits me, it's like I've taken speed or something...rest is out the question.
As for "being tense all the time," you might want to watch that. I just had some very nasty medical procedures done, only to find that tension was my only actual problem. The funny thing is, there's not much tension in my life except for political anger, so I've got yet another reason to be furious at BushCo.
I used to get acupuncture years ago, and it worked well..I just can't afford it right now...
Philalethes |
07.24.04 - 4:52 am | #
Hey Incog, have you escaped your red state yet?
Juan Hashcrops
I'm waiting until after the election. Not budging. I want to carefully watch what will happen leading up to it and its results. But after that, regardless of the outcome, I've been thinking about the Southwest lately. I wont follow politics in the future. I've had a crash course in political science these past 6 years and one thing I've learned is you can't do it forever. It's too hurtful. After November, I wont follow it closely and will just vote democratic.
Incognito |
07.24.04 - 4:53 am | #
SWR, how is your anti-Xian bigotry relevant to the fact that Sandy Berger and Joe Wilson are liars who have irredeemably damaged John Kerry's chances at the White House?
Toby, how is your utter misinformation regarding Sandy Berger and Joe Wilson relevant to the fact that anybody who refers to the Christian faith as "Xian" needs to have the Jeebus slapped right out of them?
agrajag |
07.24.04 - 4:58 am | #
Now Incog...
My son said the same thing the other day about voting Dem. I gently reminded him that it wasn't a party he needed to support. It was ideas. Granted, the Dems aren't pure, but, right now, they're the most powerful party that has some liberal ideas guiding them.
Besides, once upon a time, the Democrats were conservatives and the Republicans liberals. Things can change. A lot.
LJ |
07.24.04 - 4:59 am | #
The funny thing is, there's not much tension in my life except for political anger, so I've got yet another reason to be furious at BushCo.
Me too. I'm even resentful that any of us even have to be here instead of enjoying every second of life instead of being stressed because we're trying to understand what they're up to next trying to get a handle on how crazed they've made the world for us before they very possibly get us all wasted. From my research, the Southwest is probably the most immune area in the US from natural or man-made catastrophes so that's where I'm going.
Incognito |
07.24.04 - 5:02 am | #
From my research, the Southwest is probably the most immune area in the US from natural or man-made catastrophes so that's where I'm going.
Try Albuquerque or Tucson. They're both nice towns with cheap housing and great, GREAT food! A lot of great hiking and so forth too, if you're one of these outdoorsy types...
I gently reminded him that it wasn't a party he needed to support. It was ideas. Granted, the Dems aren't pure, but, right now, they're the most powerful party that has some liberal ideas guiding them.
I know way enough now that I can tell the BS from the truth.
Incognito |
07.24.04 - 5:07 am | #
From my research, the Southwest is probably the most immune area in the US from natural or man-made catastrophes so that's where I'm going.
Sorry but the possibility of terrorism notwithstanding, I'd still chose NYC over the southwest.
SWR |
07.24.04 - 5:45 am | #
Incogito:
Don't you have the entrails of a chicken to view to divine the future or something?
Yeah, I caught that same quote coming out of Bill Maher's slopchute. What a condescending fuck. Him, too.
Toby Petzold |
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07.24.04 - 6:01 am | #
Did you see Teresa Heinz today? What a creepy broad. She's gonna derail that train faster than Berger and Wilson are.
Toby Petzold |
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07.24.04 - 6:02 am | #
Did you see Teresa Heinz today? What a creepy broad. She's gonna derail that train faster than Berger and Wilson are.
Toby just because she's got an un Amerken ferrign accent doesn't mean that every American is an ignorant redneck like yourself who will hold it against her.
Racist little fuckhead.
SWR |
07.24.04 - 6:05 am | #
Only in the bizarro world of Putzoldia does one man's actions represent those of an entire party, and an educated, beautiful woman = creepy and the death of an entire party.
Toby, don't make me do to you what I've done to DP. You could be next.
LJ |
07.24.04 - 6:05 am | #
Toby, don't make me do to you what I've done to DP. You could be next.
Do to the fact that I'm a retard and I can't read, I got to the airport a too early.
I need to be entertained. Please. Smack Toby around to your hearts content.
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07.24.04 - 6:09 am | #
SWR:
Aw, hon. Airports used to be fun for watching people. Now I suppose there's a whole new twist on it.
As for Toby, it would be so much nicer if he'd, as Therisites put it, roll over and beg me to scratch his tummy like a puppy, without all that drama. I think I'm going to have to save the taming for another day. My inner dom is overloaded from the night's events.
That doesn't mean I might not smack him around, just for the hell of it, though.
LJ |
07.24.04 - 6:14 am | #
Aw, hon. Airports used to be fun for watching people. Now I suppose there's a whole new twist on it.
Seatac at 3 in the morning isn't fun for very much.
Although, FUCK, it's going to be 99 degrees in Seattle tomorrow and 75 in New York City.
Can't wait to get back to the relatively cool northeast. There's no air-conditioning in this miserable little city. When the temperature goes above 90 it's pure hell.
SWR |
07.24.04 - 6:17 am | #
BTW. Haven't you noticed basic wingnut.
Rich, vapid, brainless 21 year old Jenna Bush = good.
Because think about it. In New York, people have air-conditioners.
You have no idea of the sheer wretched hell of a 99 degree day in a city used to 65 - 70 degree days and, thus, without air-conditioners.
Even the methheads are sitting around looking dazed.
SWR |
07.24.04 - 6:24 am | #
After beating this story for 4 years without success maybe it's time for us to give it up and focus on something important? Just a thought.
shiko |
07.24.04 - 7:00 am | #
ya, Judy, it was so much fun he didn't want to get paid.
Yankee in exile |
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07.24.04 - 7:15 am | #
shiko, I served.
I can't give this up. The fact that the POS has an honorable discharge after deserting tarnishes mine.
Gary Frazier |
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07.24.04 - 7:31 am | #
I read that the three months in question are still missing. And we know they always will be because Bush was on a three month binge somewhere while collecting money he didn't have coming as brave Americans were dying in Vietnam.
What a 'fortunate' loser.
heavysole |
07.24.04 - 7:44 am | #
Is it just me, or is Toby more delusional than normal on this thread?
He secretly knows that the fratboy coward is toast, and is whistling as loud as he can past the graveyard.
Gary Frazier |
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07.24.04 - 7:54 am | #
...From WAY up thread -
Some of my all-time favorite "cocktails"
Toluene with a Tequila chaser - Favorite Friday night choice of a gang of Irish punks squatting near Piccadilly Circus in London.
Sunoco 260 with a Kerosene Chaser - Robert Klein quote from the '70's.
Moonshine and Crack - The "Mississippi Special" T-Model Ford, RL Burnside and the other blues guys on Fat Possum Records in Oxford MS recommend it highly. Must be a "Mississippi" thing, 'cause it sounds pretty damn lethal to me.
HB (Huntington Beach) Cocktail: 1 bottle Nyquil, 1 pint cheapest Vodka available, 1 quart Gatorade. Divide all contents equally between 2 Big Gulp cups, stir and bombs away! 2 broke skate-punks came up with this one on the way to a hardcore show in the early '80's. Almost as lethal as the "Mississippi Special".
...On what to do with DP...
Back in 1979-80, at the very first punk shows in Phx, a gang of rednecks (Reagan supporters, all) showed up and disrupted the show and vandalized the rented hall. The guy putting on the show, and having to pay for all the damage, invited the ring leader to a party. At the party, the host let the ring leader drink all the beer he could hold. When the ring leader was good and wasted, the host "mickey'ed" him and left him in a bedroom with 3 very LARGE gay men. When the gay guys were finished with him, they took all his clothes and re-dressed him in bra and panties, sundress and combat boots. The lipstick, eye make-up and red wig were nice final touches. When he woke up a couple hours later, he freaked. It was kinda sad seeing a "tough-in-his-mind" bully running around the party crying and smearing his mascara. Funny and fitting, but sad. Might work for DP. But, mabye not, since he seems to prefer men. Oh well. Never mind.
Now. What the hell is this thread about, again?
sakahamaz |
07.24.04 - 8:12 am | #
Noam Chomsky observed years ago in "Managing Consent" that the two institutions that must be controlled if the government is to prevent a revolution by the people are:
The military and the media.
The Goopers have learned the lesson well (or more likely it was one they never forgot). With the theft of the 2000 election they gained control of the military and the media has been in their corporate pocket for several decades.
The American people are toast, unless they think for themselves!
Rudy |
07.24.04 - 8:17 am | #
Wow! The exact same picture on the front page of the WaPo and the NYT --has that ever happened before?
Hecate |
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07.24.04 - 8:35 am | #
Bush won the contest of the "Stupidest Person of the Planet" yesterday at the Montreal Just For Laughs Festival.
He also won a special prize for putting the planet in peril, which he shared with Tony Blair.
Not so funny, actually.
mishimishi |
07.24.04 - 8:35 am | #
You have no idea of the sheer wretched hell of a 99 degree day in a city used to 65 - 70 degree days and, thus, without air-conditioners.
Oh, I do. I live in Vermont. This year we haven't gotten into the upper-90s yet, but last year we even hit 100. That sucked worse than anything has sucked before.
NTodd |
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07.24.04 - 8:42 am | #
This National Guard records stuff is irrelevant to the election now.
Because Junior is the "Peace" President now, remember?
Commander Zeep |
07.24.04 - 8:42 am | #
Oh, I do. I live in Vermont. This year we haven't gotten into the upper-90s yet, but last year we even hit 100. That sucked worse than anything has sucked before.
My ass was sticking to the bench I was sitting on.
The Cascades are covered, not in a rainy mist or in clouds, but in haze.
Arggh. Where are those Freepers who said that Al Gore's speech in NYC on the coldest day of the year proved global warming wasn't happening.
This is proof of global meltdown.
SWR |
07.24.04 - 8:46 am | #
Toby forgot his thorozine again.
He also can't own up to the fact that his preznit is a fucking DESERTER.
Yes, Toby old shitstain - the UCMJ doesn't care if it's 3 years or 30 years later. He will be held accountable. Dubya will get his nuts hung as a DESERTER. There is no statute of limitations on Desertion in time of war.
I as a Marine will be waiting for the day to arrive.
See, people like you who never served, wouldn't serve, don't have the BALLS to serve, have no concept of what it means to 'hold those accountable' for their actions. The military is in place to do just that in event the government fucks up too much.
Try reading your constitution.
And, have a nice day.
Barndog |
07.24.04 - 8:55 am | #
She's not ignorant. She's not stupid. She's not blind
She's corrupt, they all are. Don't think for one second every last one of these scumbags doesn't know what they are doing. They do. They do it to control the people, because they are the rulling class and they know they do not rule for the benefit of everyone.
Thankfully, after a century of media dominance in this planet, there is a strategy that time and again has worked to weaken the media. The media is too powerful, and it thinks IT is the voice of the people.
1.) the crybaby phase, Scream loud and long and hard about bias. Point ot everything, use specific examples (bernard shaw's "what if kitty got raped" question is a favorite of mine, as it's too harsh a question to dismiss as overzealousness if you don't allow it to be.) Scream that the Media is the enemy of working and middle class Americans. Say that they are the servants of monied interest. Point out how much money anchors make, constantly, point out where they send their kids to school. Point out that nobody elected these people to speak for them. Make yourself so obviously their enemy that nobody will listen to them when they talk about you.
2.) once you have power, once you win even one election, use the FTC, the FEC, anti-trust laws and executive orders to harrass, to intimidate and to break apart their media empires. Make them remember what it's like. People ALWAYS through history have sided with their leaders over the press when the choice is asked to be made. This will either break apart the media, or it will make it extreme squeamish about attacking you again. The state has the money for frivilous million dollar lawsuits. They can't match the states money.
Yes yes, I'm well aware of the sort of people who made this game plan. But that doesn't make it evil, not when the press is itself an obvious adjunct of the RNC. Anyone who doesn't think this works, well. Read a history book about the 20th century, or hang out in Russia for a week or two right now. I'm also well aware that this would, likely, trigger a minor backlash in the short term. But in the longrun, it will intimidate the media. It's just abroader strategy than the one the RNC already put into place (except they helped friends consolidate the media, rather than dismantling it)
Soul |
07.24.04 - 8:57 am | #
since reference has been made to seattle's temperatures, i grabbed this quote from an la times story earlier this week (http://tinyurl.com/4zkw6) about retirees' moving to wyoming. see, there is an upside to global warming:
Del Bowers, 67, arrived a year ago after living in Salt Lake City and Los Angeles.
"For a lot of folks, here is all they need," he said. "For me it's the open space. Winters aren't as harsh as they used to be, thanks to global warming. We only have a few days a year of 26-below-zero temperatures."
since reference has been made to seattle's temperatures, i grabbed this quote from an la times story earlier this week (http://tinyurl.com/4zkw6) about retirees' moving to wyoming. see, there is an upside to global warming:
It's not global warming. Too dramatic.
But it seems as if the Northeast has been having ultra harsh winters the past few years and the Pacific Northwest has been ultra warm.
It's weird as hell flying from a 99 degree Seattle to a 75 degree New York in July. It should be the opposite.
But that whole Freeper meme about one cold day in NYC in January "disproving" global warming is clueless.
You would think Republicans liked things like glaciars and the environment. But I guess Teddy Roosevelt would be a liberal these days.
SWR |
07.24.04 - 9:10 am | #
You know, I've got some friends in the DC public school system. Bet it won't be too difficult to id a white male school teacher who works in one of the city's few charter schools, drives an expensive car, is independently wealthy, and spouts conservative talking points.
Assuming such a person exists.
Hecate |
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07.24.04 - 9:21 am | #
It's the looney Republican bit:
Science can be molded to fit
Their latest flimflams
Or nutcase programs.
To them our descendants mean shit.
Lime Rickey |
07.24.04 - 9:30 am | #
Actually, last winter in Mass was pretty mild and this summer has been very bearable. Humid, but not overly hot. Compared to last summer, this one has been a breeze.
BlakNo1 |
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07.24.04 - 9:39 am | #
Toby, the only noteworthy liar here (as the National Guard Records show) is George Bush. The longer it takes you to catch on, the bigger the fool you are. You have been played.
Personal |
07.24.04 - 9:52 am | #
if you consider snorting cocaine flying, little judy, then, yes, preznit nightmare fulfilled his duty.
Anonymous |
07.24.04 - 10:02 am | #
JUDY WOODRUFF, HOST: Thanks for joining us here in the right field stands of America's oldest major league baseball park. With just three days before the Democratic convention gets underway here in Boston, this, we thought, was a fitting place for us to be.
ummm, before a Dem convention, wouldn't it have been more fitting to be somewhere more to the left?
or, given that this is Judy Woodruff, broadcasting from the Monster seats would have been most appropriate.
yoyoyoyoyo |
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07.24.04 - 10:11 am | #
"'d be a bit lenient if these whores weren't mostly responsible for the mess were in.
cornfed hick | Email | Homepage | 07.24.04 - 12:33 am | #"
Hello David. Up to your old tricks I see.
jri |
07.24.04 - 10:21 am | #
maybe the air in georgia makes you stoopid.
pansypoo |
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07.24.04 - 10:41 am | #
The White House continues to reveal what fools the American media have become. No one noticed that the person Bush got to add up his records to prove he served couldn't add. No one noticed the contradictions in the records released. Now it is pointing them off in the wrong direction to have them ignore the (mandatory AWOL) gap of over 7 months if Bush didn't serve in Alabama.
#1 on google for liberal news
Easter Lemming Liberal News |
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07.24.04 - 11:10 am | #
Comedy Central has been recognized, nay charged, to be a counter to bad news programming. This excerpt from a review of Crossballs in Entertainment Weekly:
Carlson, however, is a different matter. He's a real creep. On the July 5 edition, he insinuated that John Edwards made his name as a trial lawyer by "specializing in Jacuzzi cases.". This was an allusion to the horrific desembowelment of a young girl who'd been sucked into an open swimming-pool drain. When informed of the facts behind his cruel phrasing, he snapped, "Oh, I know. I've heard that," and then pressed the point that Edwards took money for getting the girl a $25 million settlement. Carlson is a quicker debater than any of the Crossfire hosts, and he's a good-looking twerp. But he's got cold, dead eyes that seem to match his heart. He's a prime example of the Triumph of the Telegenic. Recently rewarded with his own show on the now utterly-soulless PBS, Carlson can spew his bile all over the tube. It's gonna take more than a tepid parody show like Crossballs to cut a putrid pundit like hin down to size. Crossballs: C-
Janet |
07.24.04 - 11:41 am | #
> SWR, how is your anti-Xian bigotry relevant to the fact that Sandy Berger and Joe Wilson are liars who have irredeemably damaged John Kerry's chances at the White House?
Toby Petzold
Funny! This whining comes from the same guy who just called it the "Dhimmicratic party," an obvious anti-semitic, jew-baiting term.
Julius Civitatus |
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07.24.04 - 11:44 am | #
Patterson is independently wealthy, which is why he can sit there and tut tut all of us who aren't, who obviously are not as good as he is and should work harder besides.
Fag |
07.24.04 - 12:34 pm | #
Nice Polite Republicans are obviously feeling their oats after Kroc's $200 million donation. The dumping of Bob Edwards was just the tip. PBS is obviously next (first?) with Carlson.
Advice: Shut off NPR, tune in to Democracy Now with Amy Goodman (or listen on the Net), and try to get Public Radio International's "The World."
Al Gore, where are you with your new network? Ted Turner, step up to the plate! Unfortunately, the masses still don't know about/have time for the blogosphere. Hopefully it is just a matter of time...
mulls |
07.24.04 - 2:08 pm | #
Bush didn't have to fly to perform his required service (although, if he was no longer flying he should have been assigned to another, non-flying unit that might have made him subject to deployment to Vietnam). He did, however, have an obligation to serve somewhere. I haven't seen any records that showed he served the minimum required number of days in 1972. The implication was always that the missing days were during the time covered by the missing records. If he didn't get paid, it doesn't just indicate that he didn't fly, but that he didn't show up to work at all. Maybe he can count his time as Commander in Chief toward his service obligation (just as soon as he puts in enough time actually at the office).
Mojo |
07.24.04 - 10:00 pm | #
George W. Bush received an honorable discharge. If he hadn't completed his requirements, he wouldn't have received it. If y'all are saying that he received his honorable discharge because of the fraudulence of the ANG, take it up with them. Otherwise, shut your fucking pie holes, you wretched commie wankers.
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07.24.04 - 10:31 pm | #
George W. Bush received an honorable discharge. If he hadn't completed his requirements, he wouldn't have received it.
Yeah, right.
If y'all are saying that he received his honorable discharge because of the fraudulence of the ANG, take it up with them.
Nah, w'all saying that L'il Georgie got special treatment (of the fraudulent kind) from the ANG. Because of who his dad was.
Otherwise, shut your fucking pie holes, you wretched commie wankers.
Yawn. Come up with someone who can verify Bush's time in Alabama, you pustulent fuckwad. Garry Trudeau offered $10k for proof, and there were no takers. Trudeau's memories of Bush at Yale must have made him pretty confident.
anonymous in nc |
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