I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Ahh, but facts interfere with the script!
!!! Spot on Good Atrios!
BoBo
Only writes...it's pretty clear he
can't read.
Maybe Brooks is just unwilling to believe anything a politician says...
AsH - thanks for the homepage link to the Fisk. I presume this was in response to a few trolls...?
We need to start tossing copies of the Kerry/Edwards plan book at neo-cons on-camera. Lots of pictures of famous neo-cons getting buried under piles of the printed printed text of the K/E book.
Dear Bobo,
Thanx for knot askeng hard kweschins.
Kepe up gud work.
Luv,
Dubyoo.
What a Cheneying idiot. The notion that this moron is getting paid probably upwards of six figures to avoid doing the simplest of research, not to mention actually caring about educating his readers, pisses me off to no end this morning.
You know, I know where stuff like "Tweety" and "IOKIYAR" comes from.
Where does "Bobo" come from?
I'm a lefty blogger, I should know this stuff.
Is it because he's stupid like a Bobo?
His "book" Bobos in paradise or somethingcatchy like that.
Bobo - he funny.
Attaturk, hm, it's not in the Kossary at dkosopedia.com (perhaps it should be) but it does rhyme with MoDo, you have to admit.
"Bobo" means "bohemian bourgeoisie" and was invented by Brooks himself as a mocking label for middle and upper middle class lefty-leaning cultural creatives, or just plain consumers of counter-culture.
His implication is that it's somehow inconsistent or even hypocritical to be both "countercultural" and to have money to spend on cool stuff like lattes and Volvos.
In other words, it's a very genteel, Brooksian addition to the Rights class war against "Liberal Elites", as so well discussed by Thomas Franks.
I thought of this yesterday when a guy called in to Diane Rehm saying "I just don't know what Kerry's positions are...he hasn't made them clear," like John Kerry himself is supposed to ring his doorbell, hand over charts and graphs, and give a 15-minute lecture on his positions. For the love of God, dude, voting is serious business, and sometimes you've got to expend a little energy...
"Bobo", as applied to David Brooks, refers to his book "Bobos In Paradise: The New Upper Class and How They Got There".
dabrooks@nytimes.com
Send Davy the link to Kerry's Plan For America that he may educate himself before he writes another column.
I doubt that Kerry's agenda would include ripping off anything that isn't nailed down in Iraq. I came across an interesting article on Al Jazeera today.
"An American academic and writer has pleaded guilty to smuggling artifacts stolen from the Iraqi National Museum into the United States. Author of The New Iraq: Rebuilding the Country for Its People, Joseph Braude also admitted lying to customs officials at Kennedy International Airport on Wednesday. Ironically, the Amazon blurb says "The recipe for a prosperous new Iraq will marry the external demands of the global marketplace with an internal reappropriation of the unique attributes of Iraqi civilization."
Here's what Laura Miller had to say about Braude in a Salon article:
"He represents that breed of civilian who arrives in a newly occupied nation in the wake of the military personnel, aid workers and intelligence operatives, sniffing around after the money to be made amid all the flux and ferment. But Braude is more than just your average carpetbagger. His is
an extraordinary racket: He aims to get rich and famous by hustling the hustlers. "He worked for a company called Pyramid Research.
This whole fucking Iraqi operation seems to be run by crooks & idiots.
AsH - thanks for the homepage link to the Fisk. I presume this was in response to a few trolls...?
TheaLogie
Yeah, that and that fact that I figure I should just leave it up on my posting homepage in the hopes more folks will read it . ( I think everyone should be given a link to Truthout too) I was amazed at the reality there since Dahr Jamail wrote for the Nation 'Sarajevo on the Euphrates' . It so blew my mind that I contacted him directly and ended up helping him with some forensic analysis of bullet holes in Ambulances during the siege of Falluja . All the experts I could find said they were high-velocity NATO rounds, the holes too clean and straight through to be an AK. Since then , I try and find and link to as many 'on-the-ground' works as I can .
http://blog.newstandardnews.net/...iraqdispatches/
My partner survived the seige of Sarajevo and helped me become more sensitive to the need to read direct reports, unfiltered by the Governing Power.
Glad you dig it
Isn't Kerry's agenda to go into Washington and the Republicans will throw flowers and candy at his feet?
Oh, wait no, that is still Strong Leader's plan for Iraq.
"Also, as The New Republic previously reported, the arrests in Pakistan that provided the "context" for these alerts was also scripted and agreed in advance between Musharraf and GOP officials. Rove has very detailed research which purports to show that terror alerts can be manipulated to drive support for Bush. Rove is looking for a series of such alerts with growing intensity up to the election date. The alerts will all be timed to divert attention away from Kerry whenever he scores an important success or has a positive appearance. Rove originally planned to announce this alert on Friday, but others in the White House felt this timing would be too obvious, so it was put back a day. Brian Ross at ABC News has been working on a story on this. http://www.dailykos.com/story/20...4/8/7/416/
43626
Is it just me, or was all that crap above the last two just an excuse to get to the last two lines of the piece and use the "oh, I'm so clever with my writing, I just love me" part about the bar of soap?
Did anyone notice on PBS's coverage of the convention that it looked like someone was dressing David Brooks. No pink shirts, no purple ties...very un-nerdly for David Brooks.
And how would a real American who wears a sweat stained ballcap with a feed company logo on it and considers it a special occasion when he and the Mrs. head to the local Applebee's or Red Lobster in their 4x4 for the overcooked Wednesday special, who love nothing more than sitting on their cedar deck (a deck they built by hand with materials from the Home Depot) and talking about their faith in a country they love while drinking instant lemonade from big red plastic cups and eating Hostess SuzyQ's...
I'm sorry, I fell under Brooks' evil spell there for a second.
Sorry for the screwed up post.
From Kos
received the following from a former international news correspondent for a major network. "From a network of senior USG/FSOs:" (USG/FSO = US Government Foreign Service Officer)
Subject: They are going to do it again and again Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 13:36:36 EDT
"I spoke with Sy Hersh recently after delivering some documents to him (you'll read more on this in mid-September), and found him bubbling as ever, with a focus on the terror alert announced on Saturday. He says he has some information about this from a tipster at the Department of Homeland Security and also some information from a White House source close to Rove. In sum, he says that Gov. Dean's charge that this is all political manipulation is 100% correct. The data that was the basis of the alert has in fact been in US hands for two years plus and was previously rejected as a basis for an alert due to its staleness. A decision to go to alert status came from within the WhiteHouse and was driven by a strategy that Rove has been fine tuning for two years on fear manipulation as an election tool.
"Also, as The New Republic previously reported, the arrests in Pakistan that provided the "context" for these alerts was also scripted and agreed in advance between Musharraf and GOP officials. Rove has very detailed research which purports to show that terror alerts can be manipulated to drive support for Bush. Rove is looking for a series of such alerts with growing intensity up to the election date. The alerts will all be timed to divert attention away from Kerry whenever he scores an important success or has a positive appearance. Rove originally planned to announce this alert on Friday, but others in the White House felt this timing would be too obvious, so it was put back a day. Brian Ross at ABC News has been working on a story on this.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/20...4/8/7/416/
43626
OT, but blow a massive intelligence operation for political gain? IOKIYAR!
SLAMABAD, Pakistan - The al-Qaida suspect named by U.S. officials as the source of information that led to this week’s terrorist alerts was working undercover, Pakistani intelligence sources said Friday, putting an end to the sting operation and forcing Pakistan to hide the man in a secret location.
Under pressure to justify the alerts in three Northeastern cities, U.S. officials confirmed a report by The New York Times that the man, Mohammad Naeem Noor Khan, was the source of the intelligence that led to the decision.
A Pakistani intelligence source told Reuters on Friday that Khan, who was arrested in Lahore secretly last month, had been actively cooperating with intelligence agents to help catch al-Qaida operatives when his name appeared in U.S. newspapers.
Monday evening, after Khan’s name appeared, Pakistani officials moved him to a secret location.
“After his capture [in July], he admitted being an al-Qaida member and agreed to send e-mails to his contacts,” a Pakistani intelligence source told Reuters. “He sent encoded e-mails and received encoded replies. He’s a great hacker, and even the U.S. agents said he was a computer whiz.”
The Times published a story Monday saying U.S. officials had disclosed that a man arrested in Pakistan was the source of the bulk of information leading to the security alerts. The Times identified him as Khan, although it did not say how it had learned his name.
U.S. officials subsequently confirmed the name to other news organizations Monday morning. None of the reports mentioned that Khan was working under cover at the time, helping to catch al-Qaida suspects.
In addition to ending the Pakistani sting, the premature disclosure of Khan’s identity may have affected a major British operation in which 12 suspects were arrested in raids this week, one of whom U.S. officials said was a senior al-Qaida figure. One of the men was released Friday.
British police told Reuters on Friday that they had been forced to carry out the raids more hastily than planned, a day after Khan’s name appeared in the Times...
A British anti-terrorism police source would not comment on the reason for their quick action, but he confirmed the raids were carried out faster than planned: “It would be a fair assessment to say there was an urgency. Something can happen that prompts us to take action faster than we would,” he told Reuters.
Atrios,
Thanks for this ... I was so frustrated when I read Bobo's piece this morning ... it's almost as if he is mocking us ... it's outrageous for the NYT to allow this guy to do this ... so I emailed him the link to the Kerry / Edwards plan ... now I feel better.
Sorry. s/b ...all that crap above the last two lines ...
Doctors and Torture
By Robert Jay Lifton, M.D.
The New England Journal of Medicine
This is lovely. And these doctors all took an oath to cause no harm. Bastards.
We know that medical personnel have failed to report to higher authorities wounds that were clearly caused by torture and that they have neglected to take steps to interrupt this torture. In addition, they have turned over prisoners' medical records to interrogators who could use them to exploit the prisoners' weaknesses or vulnerabilities. We have not yet learned the extent of medical involvement in delaying and possibly falsifying the death certificates of prisoners who have been killed by torturers.
And how would a real American who wears a sweat stained ballcap with a feed company logo...
Are you referring to Michael Moore?
This whole fucking Iraqi operation seems to be run by crooks & idiots.
Yes, but these particular "crooks and idiots" are called Neocons.
Okay this is too rich ... maybe a few of you have received this too ... it's hysterical:
Dear friend,
Thanks very much for sending a response to my column, positive or negative. I'm afraid I can't respond to each message. My editors would wonder why I have no time to write for the paper.
But I do read every e-mail, and I frequently learn from them.
So, again, thanks,
David Brooks
Atrios,
For Brooksie to read Kerry's book to see what his positions are would be too much like, well, reporting. What do you think they pay for, hard work reseraching and understanding positions on complex issues, or partisan snark?
And if Kerry went Ross Perot on 'em, and had half-hour infomercials on his proposals, what do you want to bet that Brooksie's response would be [Homer Simpson voice] boooorrriinngg! [/Homer Simpson voice]?
Speaking of BoBo bad behavior
I see Instaliar is running the idea that the Globe reporter has some kind of conflict of interest. Despite the Drudge claim it is a lie and has been explainded but since that wouldn't allow him to make some snarky point he continues to post the lie. More proof of his lack of moral and ethical standards or maybe he is just a lazy ass.
Tbone,
Be careful channeling Brooks. You might not be able to pull yourself out of it.
"I spoke with Sy Hersh recently after delivering some documents to him (you'll read more on this in mid-September), and found him bubbling as ever, with a focus on the terror alert announced on Saturday. He says he has some information about this from a tipster at the Department of Homeland Security and also some information from a White House source close to Rove. In sum, he says that Gov. Dean's charge that this is all political manipulation is 100% correct. The data that was the basis of the alert has in fact been in US hands for two years plus and was previously rejected as a basis for an alert due to its staleness. A decision to go to alert status came from within the WhiteHouse and was driven by a strategy that Rove has been fine tuning for two years on fear manipulation as an election tool.
er, researching
Thanks Nancy ! More Sy Hersh!!!
He will either find all he needs to sink Bush like a White Star Liner , or some one will rub him out ...love that guy
Has everyone seen his talk at the ACLU? He was rambling and distracted and brilliant . Let me know if you want links
Nancy Richardson:
The quote you have is from the comment thread in your link, not the link itself.
It's pretty explosive stuff, but I don't understand what the source really is. Do you have any idea?
In sum, he says that Gov. Dean's charge that this is all political manipulation is 100% correct."
Damn! I wish they would get this out before mid September. Any clue as to when the Brian Ross report is due?
Bush supporters organizing another boycott.
Read this!
Dear Sharon Percy Rockefeller:
Why does David Brooks, who appears to be too lazy to click on a candidates web site and read the position papers, have a job?
In sum, he says that Gov. Dean's charge that this is all political manipulation is 100% correct
And NO-ONE backed him up on it ...even Kerry bailed on that one , and of course Fucker Carlson attacked his guests and insisted they either disavow Deans comment or stand complicit in his "insane" comments.
The right is gonna hafta buy a shit load of We're sorry Bouquets from 1800flowers when this is all brought out ....
Brooks:Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!
I dunno what Kerry's agenda would be!!!
Us:Here you go. There's his agenda
Brooks:Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!! It's way too complicated! It's so elitest! It'll never convince the average person!!
Us:*sigh*. What a buffoon..
>It's pretty explosive stuff, but I don't understand what the source really is. Do you have any idea?
Nope.
It was the response to something I posted regarding the politicization of Homeland Security. (I see the whole thing as part of the Rove wing of the White House)
And this post shows up in response. I am not a journalist, but it smells interesting to me...and I posted it such as it is....and not being a journalist or blogger, I am have to responsibility except to say...hey look at this. Isn't it interesting?
OK. Thanks, Nancy. I was just curious, is all. Definitely something to be on the lookout for.
OT: Right on track. Another beautiful mind in training.
George P. will be switching jobs this fall. He is leaving his position as an assistant to U.S. Judge Sidney Fitzwater in Dallas to join the Dallas office of Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld, where he will work in corporate law. The firm is one of the world's largest, earning millions lobbying in Washington.
Nice catch, Nancy Richardson.
Thanks for posting the stuff confirming that the terra alert is just politics, and that Rove is planning to pull this crap anytime Kerry goes ahead in the polls.
Hasn't Rove read Aesop's fables? The one about the boy who cried wolf?
Thanks for the information on the meaning of "BoBo". Should have known that.
My email to David Brooks:
Mr. Brooks,
I realize you are not an investigative journalist but since facts are critical to your role as an analyst, here is a link to obtain the facts, "the beef" on the Kerry Health Plan: http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/...es/health_care/
.
Might I suggest you bookmark the website as it has detailed information about many of Mr. Kerry's proposals: http://www.johnkerry.com/plan/.
The internet has been invaluable to me in becoming a better informed voter. I can only imagine the benefit is has to offer to someone in your field.
Hey, the guy might be blowing smoke, but golly, the information contained in, if true, backs up enough my suspicions about these lowlifes that I couldn't resist posting it.
It smells legit enough to throw out, with the proper caveats, of course.
BoBo, of course, doesn't WANT to know what Kerry's plan is.
What he wants to do is shock Bush into having a plan.
Brooks has heard the commentary, and knows it to be right: Bush is talking about the past, but neither the present nor the future.
Kerry is talking about all three, and starting to smoke Bush in the all-important electoral votes (i.e., state votes).
I don't expect Brooks to even-handedly deal with Kerry's plans. Even if he mentioned them, he'd choose selectively for his own purposes.
What's interesting is that he seems determined to distance himself from Bush.
The rats are starting to leave. Maybe the ship is sinking....
The criticism that Kerry lacked specifics emerged on the night of the speech. That was I believe the same night the corporate media only allowed Kerry an hour to make his speech.
"And how would a real American who wears a sweat stained ballcap with a feed company logo..."
Gosh, Davey, ever consider maybe going out and talking to a few to actually find out? Maybe you can get to that after you read the 200-page book on the Kerry/Edwards Web site that outlines their plan...
Dumbass
The rats are starting to leave. Maybe the ship is sinking...
Robert, the only thing that can save this administration is Divine Intervention.
And Karl is working on that as we speak.
Perhaps this will be of interest for a laugh.
Dougy "Mr. FUBAR" Feith tries to defend himself today in the Post.
As usual he doesn't do it very well.
He lives up to Tommy Franks description.
Charlie Reese on Fisk and Iraq:
http://tinyurl.com/44r8t
Sounds like the sharks are starting to smell blood in the water:
Aug. 7 - It didn’t sound like a hard question. After George W. Bush delivered a tepidly received address to a convention of minority journalists, a Native-American editor from the Seattle Post-Intelligencer asked, “What do you think tribal sovereignty means in the 21st century?” As president and a former governor, the journalist said, Bush had a “unique experience, looking at [the issue] from two perspectives.” The president fumbled. “Tribal sovereignty means that—it’s sovereignty,” he stammered. “I mean, you’re a—you’re a—you’ve been given sovereignty and you’re viewed as a sovereign entity.” As Bush rambled, looking like a schoolboy unprepared at the front of the class, many of the hundreds of Asian, black, Native American and Hispanic journalists gathered before him…well, snickered.
From the moment Bush took the stage of the Washington Convention Center on Friday morning, it was clear he would rather have been somewhere else. Anywhere else. Bush had come to the convention of Unity: Journalists of Color not because he wanted to, but because he had to. When he snubbed the NAACP’s annual convention last month his absence made headlines. Not a good thing in a closely contested election where every vote counts, not only among minorities but—more importantly—among the white swing voters who value tolerance and diversity. So when Unity, the largest journalist group in the world, invited the president to address the meeting it holds every five years, Bush couldn’t afford to look like he was dissing the entire American minority press corps.
John Kerry had been on the same stage exactly 24 hours earlier and had received enthusiastic applause. But Kerry had been, presumably, playing to his base. The president’s challenge was greater. Bush had come to office promising to be a uniter not a divider, on the tails of the ugliest election in 100 years, when, critics charge, as many as one million African Americans were disenfranchised. On Friday, clearly much of the audience remained skeptical of the president. “He’s worse than I imagined,” said one Asian journalist of the president’s flat delivery. “Why does Kerry get such grief for not being a good speaker?” During his speech the president looked like he was getting a tooth extracted...
Kerry had made news with his speech to Unity the day before. When asked by a reporter what he would have done if he had been “caught in a Florida…classroom on September 11,” Kerry said he would have politely excused himself and told the children “the president has to something to attend to.” For journalists attending Unity, the mini-firestorm that ensued offered a rare glimpse into how reporters can fail to get it right.
Almost immediately, the presidents’ surrogates, led by former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, condemned Kerry for Monday-morning quarterbacking. Most media portray
my email to bobo. let's make sure that he's got plenty of these in his inbox.
Mr. Brooks,
Based on your latest column, it's clear that you must have missed the detailed plan that John Kerry and John Edwards made available detailing their proposals and plans. I'm sure this was just an oversight as you must be very busy these days. I thought I would send you a copy to help you get up to speed. Look forward to the retraction of your ill-informed commentary and opinion.
Have a nice day,
Sorry...
...Almost immediately, the presidents’ surrogates, led by former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, condemned Kerry for Monday-morning quarterbacking. Most media portrayed Kerry’s comments as red meat for true believers. But neither a groggy Tim Russert speaking the next day on the Today show nor the front page of The Washington Post noted that the Kerry remark had been in response to a specific question about what he would have done had he been president at the fateful moment.
More than that, there was something disingenuous in the Republican onslaught. Most polls showed Kerry with a modest bounce after the Democratic National Convention in Boston. But what all the polls showed was that even those voters who would not cast their ballots for Kerry “if the election were held today,” had decided that he was credible on issues of national defense and homeland security. President Bush’s double-digit lead over his challenger on who would better handle terrorism and homeland security—the president’s signature issue—had evaporated. On the issue of Iraq, specifically, Kerry was polling better than Bush...
Stinky brings up a godo point. What's with all these elitest right-wing assholes who believe that the average person can't grasp even advanced concepts?
And why do some people..quite a few actually..let that defeatist attitude overwhelm them into doing nothing?
Actually yesterday I saw the ad that the DNC are putting on the jobs. The best thing..the absolutly best thing about this campaign is the direct theft from the Dean campaign.
"America can do better"
BoBo was on the NewsHour with Tom Oliphant Friday night. Bo was very discouraged with the economic news. Still, being the good soldier, he claimed that nobody could fix the US's economic problems if they were "structural". Tom was having none of that. In fact, with almost every BoBo comment, Tom got this crap-eating grin on his face...and would then filet BoBo's last remark. I almost felt sorry for David Brooks....
The exchange did made me look forward to the debates. I just hope that Kerry tells Bush that he can't use the phrase "I got nothing" because it belongs to Jon Stewart!
Wile E. Odysseus - "Hasn't Rove read Aesop's fables? The one about the boy who cried wolf?"
Nope - try Breslin instead.
Tena, I don't like where you directed me! FreeRepublic, wow... at least I now know what happened to all of the inmates that were forced out onto the street when the mental hospitals were closed. And I think they should boycott Budweiser, just on general principles. Sad little bunch of Anti-American losers, that right wing...
Tena,
Thanks for the link, even if it led to Free Republic.
My first look at that site. It was. . . . . . . . . . . educational.
So they want to boycott Kevin Sapcey's boyfriend's website?
Feh. I need coffee. (And a way to cleanse my mind of the dreck on Free Republic.)
er, Spacey.
I DO need coffee.
Proof of the cluelessness of the Freepers: the first poster on that thread said he never knew Kevin Spacey was gay...
The exchange did made me look forward to the debates.
I've been thinking about the debates, infoshaman. I'm sure Rove would like to just skip them. I mean, shit. Look at the matchup, and by then Kerry's going to be able to show some major righteous indignation with the smearing they're trying on him now.
The beauty of it is that if Bush doesn't do the debates, he's going to be soooo easy to tar with being a pansy who runs away, in contrast with Kerry who always says "send me".
Rove is trapped.
Bush supporters organizing another boycott.
Read this!
-Tena
Oh yeah, the same Bush supporters at that website that said O'Really was part of the ""librul" media" when O'Really deplored the Swift Boat attack ads as lies?
bobo luv turkee.
I just had about 30 grand worth of surgery. I've got really good health insurance. The interesting part of my bill though is reading how much the insurance company pays for my care vs how much an uninsured person would have to pay. My insurance company has set up a contract with the hospital so they really end up paying less than 1/2 the cost and the hospital eats the rest. If I had no insurance I'd end up paying the whole 30 grand vs the 15 grand or so that the insurance company paid.
Tena- I went and read it, and now I feel all dirty. Ugh.. I think I'll go take six showers now.
GWPDA,
Thanks for the link to Breslin. As usual, he hits the nail on the head. I'm glad that great minds think alike! 
Karmakin,
Maybe Kerry got the slogan "America Can Do Better" from Dean, but I'd argue that Dean got it from Kennedy's 1960 slogan, "We Can Do Better." Not that I mind that much in either case. 
Atrios, do you actually expect anyone from our somnolent "press corps" to read? Reedinz harrd!!!
Since everybody here seems to be mainlining coffee today here are the instructions for making a really good cup.
The most disturbing part for me in Brooksie's column was the line about Smirky doing a strip tease. All due respect to erotic dancers, but I sure as hell don't want to imagine W doing the same. Eww!
BoBo is CaCa
The ducks are waiting for you, Brooks.
Hey Tena,
I saw your post and jumped through all of the necessary hoops to join Triggerfish. I thought I’d let you know that folks over there seem to be taking care of themselves pretty well. On the free-for-all forum, someone that calls himself BushRules posted the following:
With the Swiftboat vets. for truth comeing forward now the long and painfull sinking of John Forbes Kerry begins. The Democrates already had buyers remose about him being chosen so early and now that the light of day is starting to show on their man he is going to start sinking like a rock. The normanl people of this country will not support a Purple heart stealing,anti war protesting hippy,gigilo,do nothing liberal from New England.
Its going to be fun watch all the liberals try to prop up this loser the next three months
Needless to say, he got blasted from all sides. The spelling alone was enough to bring howls of laughter. It doesn’t seem like many people are heeding the call to arms against Triggerfish. I’ll be keeping an eye on it though.
The latest Reeper Room talking points contains the phrase no president could fix the economy. Forgetting one point -by now surely the tax cuts would be working. NOT
I have heard the phrase no president could do anything about it from several of the rightwing loonies
ALERT ALERT ALERT
Thursday night on Larry King Live(NOT) The President and his perfect spouse Laura. One can only imagine the smirk fest this is going to be,
Sent to David Brooks,
Uh, Dave? Maybe you could join the rest of us here in the month of, say, August 2004? The Kerry/Edwards campaign has put out a book to explain what their plan for America is. It's been out for a while now.
The Bushron/Cheneyburton campaign has no such plan, as you, I am sure, well know. They are not really big on plans over there (no strategery and all that).
What I find most disturbing about your column is that you make no effort to inform your readers of the fact that such a book does exist. It would be one thing to pick apart the plan. I can appreciate honest criticism. It's another to act as if it doesn't exist at all. That's intellectually dishonest and I suspect you know that, too.
Your editors should have called you on that one. It becomes increasingly obvious how the Jayson Blair thing happened.
Brooks' ideology trumps his intellect - it's called willful ignorance. Also...when he doesn't know what he's talking about but has a book or column deadline, it's pretty obvious he makes shit up.
He calls the bulk of his writing "comic sociology" - I call it a fucking joke... The rest is blatant propaganda posing as punditry.
Wow on the blowing of the Pakistani intelligence op. It's Plame, the sequel. I love spy shit and boy are our guys even more fucking stupid than I imagined.
Shorter Kerry/Edwards agenda:
More War...but New & Improved!
Twice as many Special Forces! (Just don't ask us what they'll be up to)
Gays free to cavort...but not to get married!
More stem cell research...but no medical marijuana! (Maybe we'll have a commission, but don't count on it)
Greater fuel independence...but no industrial hemp for biodesiel!
Hey, look, up there!
It's John Edwards!
No, It's John Kerry!
NO! It's pie in the sky!
Got a long fork?
Yes -- as soon as I got it I sent it to someone with questions in areas I didn't have the information about. Hope it works for him, because he has already admitted that the millionaire President is wrong, wrong, wrong.
Scorpio
Eccentricity
"Kerry never says what he will DO, he just complains" is thrown at me all the time. In chat. In person. Everywhere.
I understand the need to tell them an entire BOOK on this subject is out now, but people, people, people... Johnkerry.com has been around for TWO YEARS. I've had people tell me they didn't know he had a website. Even after throwing the URL into his DNC Speech.
Many of these people are not fans of the truth, or reality. Showing them the 1st 100 days plan is at least a step in the right direction.
He knows perfectly well that there's a book. He's hoping his readers won't. I am half sick of shadows.
Anyone else have trouble accessing the Kerry site? I got to Bush-Cheney with no trouble (seeing if they had a plan online as well -- nothing but vague generalities), but my browser stalled accessing Kerry's. Heavy traffic?
MCafferty on the poor jobs report
first they had some woman who is insane quote Elaine Cho and then never mention the unemployment rate was not increasing because people are dropping out. Then instead of having the conversation McCafferty says let's talk about terrorism and all the good things the administration is doing....
CNN no longer cares about the appearance of fairness -- anything they can do to help Bush is okay with them. Lies distortions ommissions
Heavy traffic I think or adjustments at Kerry website. It seem fine now.
It just proves he didn't listen to Kerry's speech so how could he write about it? Well he probably wrote this piece before the speech with the help of Ed Gillespie and his Reeper Room don't bees.
Am I mistaken to have thought that MSNBC was fairly unbiased? I changed my mind yesterday. They went with Kerry's account of how he would have reacted to the news of 9-11 in the Fla. classroon. Kerry was attacked all day by them. Not once did they mention that Kerry was answering a question from the audience. MSNBC even included an attack from Giuliani on Kerry even discussing it. Naturally CNN and Fox were like a dog with a bone, but I was truly disappointed that MSNBC did that. I did send several emails, but I don't think anyone will read them until next month.
It's good to know that in these times of trouble and strife, when the going gets tough, the tough go fishing.
Quick, look over there, Jenna caught a big fish!
The beauty of it is that if Bush doesn't do the debates, he's going to be soooo easy to tar with being a pansy who runs away, in contrast with Kerry who always says "send me".
Oh, he'll show up at the debates, he has no choice. The interesting part will be how many. The 2000 election had 3 debates, and the press managed to spin it into "Bush wasn't a total idiot, and Gore sighed."
Remember the format of these things. Each candidate gets a question and then gives an answer that amounts to a campaign speech. Direct questions and conversations between candidates are discouraged, so the element of spontaneity and thinking on your feet will be minimized. Hell, it wouldn't surprise me to find out that Bush will know what questions he is going to get in advance. And still screw up his answers.
Am I mistaken to have thought that MSNBC was fairly unbiased?
Yes, you were mistaken. They are fox-lite.
All the major media outlets are beholden to their corporate masters.
Annya
MSGOP
try these emails
mark.effron@msnbc.com head of news dept
neal.shapiro@nbcuni.com president of nbc news
and you can probably figure out individual reporters as well
The Bush people here in Michigan are collecting the addresses of people with Kerry signs
in their yards. When I asked a neighbor today why they are doing this I was told that it may
be the " My Son Died in Iraq Letter Request..remove your sign please" scam. Has anybody heard of this before or is this all made up?
And how would a real American who wears a sweat stained ballcap with a feed company logo...
Are you referring to Michael Moore?
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Hey, Mondo ...
Maybe so, if my old employer Michigan State University has become a feed company ...
About the Sh*t Boat Liars for Bush ad...
Last night on my local news here in Ohio our stupid NBC & Fox affiliate gleefully announced they would be airing the ad on both their stations.
Here is their contact page if you want to give them a piece of your mind.
http://www.wkef22.com/dayton_oh/
...partments.shtml
Instapundit continues to lie about the Globe story as well. You know things are bad when they have abandoned any pretense of telling the truth. The don't care. They need to keep what remains of the abase fired up and are willing to lie to do it. Of course that's been the mo all along. But it's only for your own good because if we tell you the truth you might start asking questions.
Gary Frazier - My apologies... yesterday I mistakenly mentioned throwing someone into "Dave's Duck Pit", when in reality I meant YOUR Duck Pit.
Those responsible for the error have been thrown in the Duck Pit.
Annya: Am I mistaken to have thought that MSNBC was fairly unbiased?
Just to give you some background. Anything with NBC is owned by the parent company, General Electric. Jack Welsh, the former head of General Electric (he retired a couple years ago), is a committed right winger who was instrumental in the establishment of MSNBC & CNBC. I heard him speak about 3 years ago & he was going on about the need for unregulated markets & society's over reliance on the safety net.
MSNBC was created as NBC's version of FOX. It competes for the same audience as FOX. Its the same spin, just a different name.
I emailed him the link to the Kerry / Edwards plan
I wonder how long he spent trying to click his mouse on the piece of paper his secretary printed it on?
oh, and if Frist has such concrete bold new proposals, why is HCA being sued for artificially inflating charges to the uninsured and then placing the bills into collection?
My wife thinks the GOP is going to drop Cheney for Frist at the convention. I told her that, judging from the last nine months, Bill Frist in a presidential race would make Dan Quayle look like a Rhodes Scholar.
I went to www.georgewbush.com to look for the Bush/Cheney plan, and all I found was a bunch of meaningless buzzwords and talking points. The "Suggested Reading List" on the home page links to a page called "Kerry Media Center." What's the deal with that?
After searching around a bit on the web, I found a copy of the real Bush/Cheney plan (warning: PDF). In fact, they've actually been putting it into effect the past four years, so it's just a matter of staying the course...
Heth - let them run the Swiftboat ad. There are some pretty effective ant-Bush attack ads out there as well. For an example see: Dishonest Dubya
Let them run the ads
I am sure Senator Kerry would love to own a television station
Well hell, people, why not just shoot Karl in the head and liberate America?
"Why not shoot Rove and liberate America?"
Regrettably anti gun and generally
disapprove of that type of violence.
Let's just bring back the stock.
Speaking of agendas, whatever happened to Bush's second term plans?
There is no agenda whatsoever other than clinging to power by whatever means necessary. Does this bother BoBo?
Annya: Am I mistaken to have thought that MSNBC was fairly unbiased?
I was posting yesterday while watching Softball and being outraged as Tweetie stated in a question to Wesley Clark that Kerry had brought up the "What would I have done on 9/11" question "...out of nowhere I guess...." Then, as Clark spiked the question back in his face ("He was responding to a direct question..."), Tweetie was nodding and saying "Uh huh," as though of course he knew the real context. As Bob Somerby has been pointing out all week over at The Daily Howler, it's not hard (and absolutely crucial) to refute the smear points each and every time they're thrown out there. And as Clark (and Jon Stewart earlier with Henry Bonilla) showed, it only takes a few calm but firm words to parry the lie, and then they move on.
Matthews is hit and miss, mostly miss, and absolutely hates to impugn any administration motivations or figures (with the possible exception of Cheney, whom he seems to openly despise). I've heard him compare himself to Bush (and criticise a guest) with respect to knocking off the booze thanks to Jesus, and I think he gives Bush a huge pass because of his religious beliefs.
OTOH, if you're just looking for infotainment (which is as much as I expect from any of them any more), I think Keith Olbermann is pretty funny, and their MSNBC After Hours show has its moments (due in large part to Ron Reagan Jr.)
"... and the fluffy kitten played with that ball of string all through the night. On a lighter note, a Kwik-E-Mart clerk was brutally murdered last night." Kent Brockman
maybe david brooks gets all his news from tv (cf krugman's column from last week).
I sent Bobo the link, maybe we all should?
http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/
our...for_america.pdf
Maybe we should all print out copies of Kerry's plan and snail mail it to Brooks and/or his editors? They can all delete e-mails and send back silly "your message is important to me" spammed responses, but what are they going to do when sacks full of copies of THE ACTUAL PLAN, IN HARDCOPY, for you journalists who haven't yet figured out how to use the internet, show up on their doorsteps?
What is their snail mail address anyway, and how much postage would 200 pages cost?
It can be very discouraging. My local paper prints Cal Thomas' column. His column of a few days ago repeated all the lies, Saddam's WMD, Al Queada-Iraq co-operation, IRAQ-911 co-operation (!!!), murderous Muslims gonna do us all in, etc. as if none of these things was even open to question. Mind-boggling. And every day, two or three letters repeating these points, and equating any dissent with treason. Lovely. I stay in the house most of the time. I wish I still smoked pot. Lots of it.
It's the mis-information age.
Cal Thomas was the filthy bastard who questioned Dean's religious sincerity since Howard the Heretic married a Jew. Anyone know if Heinz has the same "problem" or if Cal has gone after Kerry like that?
Bobo Replies --
Dear friend,
Thanks very much for sending a response to my column, positive or negative. I'm afraid I can't respond to each message. My editors would wonder why I have no time to write for the paper.
But I do read every e-mail, and I frequently learn from them.
So, again, thanks,
David Brooks
There is no agenda whatsoever other than clinging to power by whatever means necessary. - if he admitted that Kerry's agenda exists, he would then have to admit Bush's doesn't. Being a pundit means never having to say you're sorry.
Atrios is right about Brooks, of course. But if you read "the book" -- all 276 pages of it -- you'll see it leaves some pretty big bases uncovered... like what Kerry intends to do about big cities. See more about this here.
In a related vein, check out this http://www.cleveland.com/news/
pl...71411225960.xmlgood article from two Brookings staffers in this morning's Cleveland Plain Dealer.
[re-post... sorry about the links]
Atrios is right about Brooks, of course. But if you read "the book" -- all 276 pages of it -- you'll see it leaves some pretty big bases uncovered... like what Kerry intends to do about big cities. See more about this here.
In a related vein, check out this
Did anybody see Brooks on Tweety's other show over the weekend? When Dean's terror alert comments came up, Brooks called it "black helicopter" stuff and compared Dean to the John Birch Society-what he called the right wing crazies. Not mentioning, of course, that the right wing fringe has been mainstreamed, with people like Limbaugh and Coulter serious commentators. No, instead, just John Birch is the extreme right. This is the kind of sleight of hand that Brooks excels at- and because he is so "rational" and "reasonable", he gets away with it.
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