I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

GravatarGood afternoon.


GravatarWell, I be damn.


Gravatarms f, :P


GravatarSorry, I wasn't greedy, at least.


GravatarOkay, meet me in bed, you wanna chat.

I'm napping. Pillow talk welcome.


GravatarWell howdily hi! Got a turkey carcass, water, celery, onion, carrots, salt and pepper simmering on the stove.


Gravatarfrom below:

"Everyone Loves Raymond" is a really vile show, when you observe the dysfunctional relationship between Ray and Debra. Really shitty people to each other.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore


The guys come off as weaselly and the women come off like ballbreakers.

And I cannot stand Patricia Heaton.


GravatarWouldn't want me there. Would take half an hour before I settled won.


GravatarVicki, darlin', my georgeous wife who never should have hooked up with such a nefarious character is snoozing on the sofa. Otherwise....


Gravatarbo

Only 52 days?


GravatarI comment thread on Atrios that's not 10,000 long!


GravatarThe arthritis is forever, but I've decided I ain't going to die of it.


Gravatarbo whatcha doing for it?

i have a few creaks myself


GravatarArrrrgh!
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Gravatarquakerboy,
You seem to have excellent priorities. Turkey soup, spouse, Obama and kittehs.


Gravatar"Everyone Loves Raymond" is a really vile show, when you observe the dysfunctional relationship between Ray and Debra. Really shitty people to each other.

A-frickin-men. Been there, done that. Often note the comparison between my current marriage and my last one (I was a young widower to aplastic anemia). Anyhoo...yeppers. A marriage is NOT a zero sum game.

My current one has benefitted mightily from lessons learned.


Gravatarbo -- thank you, thank you very much. I'd like to think so.


GravatarWhat...Vicki goes to sleep and the world stops?? Who knew????


Gravatarkidnap,

Started with enough griping at the podiatrist and orthopedist to get some physical therapy. Saw some improvement from the stretches and exericises.

Turned into a geriactric gym rat. Determined to knock off another thrity pounds. Doing stationary bike and exercise machines.


GravatarYou Go Bo!


Wait....didn't mean it, man....


Gravatari see

so, no meds

i have complicating problems that i have had all my life that are worsened with most gym equipment. i worked with a trainer for two years and only got worse and worse and worse.

i think swimming might work for me


Gravatarbo-we took up disc golf for exercise. Lots of fun and a good work out.


GravatarOTOH, tried a pushup a few minutes ago. Hilarity ensued.


GravatarWatching the story of John Allen Mohammed, the terrorist sniper, post-9/11.
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GravatarHow can I enjoy it? More than half of the 4 day weekend is gone, dammit!


GravatarHas Pope Benedict condemned the Wal-Mart tramplers yet?


GravatarAbout time, too:

http://www.comcast.net/articles/ ...hat_s.In.A.Name


GravatarExercise? What is this exercise you speak of? If it goes beyond moving food from the 'fridge to the cutting board to the stove, of what value is it? I ask you! It is a very curious thing you are espousing, grasshopper.


Gravatartried a pushup a few minutes ago


They sell those on tv.
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GravatarHas Pope Benedict condemned the Wal-Mart tramplers yet?
P O'Neill


He probably gets kickbacks from WalMart.


GravatarSwimming's a very good one. Likewise water aerobics.

Ibuprophen does good stuff for my joints and muscles, but I'm off it because of citalopram.


Oh, I'm a believer in glucosamine, too. Took a while before I noticed the benefit, but I think it helps.


GravatarInteresting blog here. #not_a_troll


GravatarWell, this is depressing.

Unlike home mortgages, businesses don't pay their loans over 30 years. Commercial mortgages are usually written for five, seven or 10 years, with big payments due at the end.

About $20 billion will be due next year, covering everything from office and condo complexes to hotels and malls.

The retail outlook is particularly bad. Circuit City and Linens 'n Things have sought bankruptcy protection. Home Depot, Sears, Ann Taylor and Foot Locker are closing stores.


Next year's gonna suck, economy-wise. Probably the next few years, actually.


GravatarInteresting blog here. #not_a_troll
Jesse


Don't jinx it.


GravatarCherries show promise in relieving arthritis pain.

http://www.komu.com/satellite/Sa...6c- 3ed2ae2e59cb


GravatarI have found that a judicious amount of scotch and sweet vermouth taken internally is a universal specific for most ailmants. YMMV.


Gravatardragging this up from downstairs.

Had a friend that played the accordion. One day when he was shopping, he forgot to lock the back door of his station wagon, with the accordion laying in plain site.

When he walked out of the store he saw that the back door of the car was ajar.
Running up the the car he discovered what he feared.













yep, there were 3 more accordions in there


GravatarRE: Arthritis

Osteo here.

I take two standard aspirin in the morning and two at bedtime.

Helps a LOT most of the time.

If it's bad, two ibruprofen.

Your Mileage May Vary!

Consult Your Physician!

Offer Not Valid In Tennessee!


GravatarSometimes unrelenting financial catastrophe might have struck a more appropriate gang of bastards.
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Gravatar$20 billion? Chump change.


GravatarForgot the link to the article.
Commercial mortgage problems


Gravatarql, husband really wants to take you guys disc golfing...not sure if time/weather will permit however


Gravatarglucosamine/chondroiton/aleve/heat/braces/rest


GravatarHi, ErinPDX. How's your weekend?


GravatarWell there ya go...another Atrios thread about sleep, food and booze degenerating into healthy exercize and economics. What is this world coming to? I ask you!!???


GravatarA,

If Matthews runs for the PA Senate, promise me you'll make sure he loses.


GravatarWell I personally find "Everyone loves Raymond" funny. (No accounting for taste?) I think it is because it is so clearly crazy dysfunctional. I know how it can be repetitive, but it's like a comic strip. "Ray does something stupid. Debra screams, Raymond's brother is jealous, Raymond Mom is snooty and overprotective, His dad say something disgusting Raymond apologized Debra accepts Show over. and I remember the episode called "The Angry Angry family" where one of the boys did a story about this angry family that was clearly the Barones. They tried to change but couldn't they realized that they are terrible people, but too bad, they aren't going to change, they need the ratings!

It's like they are sick and they are not you. I know some people liked the Honeymooners for the same reason. I never liked the Honeymooners but maybe that is an age thing.

And Patrica Heaton is a right wing wet dream, she is pro-life, has a hot body and is willing to put up with the shannagins of Raymond. I heard she was hired because she was the only actress willing to kiss Raymond. [shutter] Now that is the kind of woman ugly men everyone can love. In another context she would be a mafia wife. Would she put up with Ray's cheating? Killing? Depends on how much she gets out of it. Carmella anyone?


Gravatar Chris Tucker: Offer Not Valid In Tennessee!

So, it's that AND Truck Nutz, hm?
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Gravataryep, there were 3 more accordions in there - 1Watt, Hermit

He was damned lucky zuchini wasn't in season.


GravatarAny D is better than the specter of Specter.
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Gravatar"another Atrios thread about sleep, food and booze degenerating into healthy exercize and economics."

We're soooo predictable.


GravatarJeff, hey, I don't make the rules.

If I did, I'd be getting Smart Cute Asian Girlfriend stamps along with food stamps.


GravatarHow's your weekend?
TOW-has coffee

pretty good, how 'bout you?
Getting ready for the civil war game at 4:00. I'm one of those bleeding heart Ducks....Beavers have ruined our chance to make it to the Rose Bowl several times but I'll feel sort of bad if we do that to them today. hee.


GravatarBeavers and Ducks!

(I hate that stupid movie)
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Gravatar"Well I personally find "Everyone loves Raymond" funny. (No accounting for taste?) I think it is because it is so clearly crazy dysfunctional."


No reason for you not to enjoy. But for some of us, it hits too close to home and the commercial break never happened. It is a mutually abusive relationship; he because he is soooo inattentive and she because she is a harpy. Live one week in that atmosohere and get back to me. I did it for 20 years. Seriously. But the show is funny. I laugh at it. My favorite line..."what contest in Hell did I win." ...


GravatarI watched the Nebraska Colorado game last night. I really wanted Colorado to win, don't tell anyone, but I find Husker Fans often times insufferable.
They make me see red...


GravatarTo each his own, Quakerboy. My Aunt married a guy who was largely large and sedentary for the last 40 years of his life. He made 90.

Robert M. Hutchens is reported to have said, "whenever I get an urge to exercise, I lie down until it does away."


GravatarDoing ok. I want a quiet weekend since there's lots of stuff going on next week. Gonna watch a bunch of BTVS and get some house stuff taken care of.

No football for me. Except when it comes to the Dallas Cowboys. Then I root for whoever they're playing, since I hate the cowboys.


Gravatari am bored and want to come home.

only seven hours to go.

[ weeps inconsolably ]


GravatarI'm really bummed that I have no reason to watch NFL, tomorrow.
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Gravatarquakerboy; Obama & kittehs! | 11.29.08 - 3:12 pm

I DON'T live in that world (thank the Elders of Vulcan) so that is one reason why I can laugh at it. I think that one of my siblings had a relationship like that for a long time. (Divorced after 20 years).


GravatarI was doing stationary bike until my rheumatologist said that the knees don't get fully extended and I was beginning to show signs of knee arthritis. She said walking fully extends the knees. So in late spring I started to walk a little over two miles most days. That and dieting (trying to get used to and appreciate feeling hungry) allowed me to drop 20 pounds. I'm now at ideal weight and BMI of 23.71. Gotta keep if off now and have not been able to exercise since we came back from Taiwan with the new little one.


GravatarI root for whoever they're playing, since I hate the cowboys.
TOW-has coffee


[ passes tow a virtual lagunitas maximus ]

come over here and sit by me, son...


GravatarStoat, are you stuck in an airport?


GravatarI get all my exercise from jumping to conclusions, flying off the handle and running around in circles.


GravatarNFL is a sad state for LA fans. I may have to break down and route for the Chargers.


GravatarStoat, are you stuck in an airport?
TOW-has coffee


wurk!
/maynard g. krebs


GravatarSometimes I work out with leaps of faith and dancing around issues. Other times I work my upper body by pulling out all the stops and tearing down strawmen.


GravatarThanks, Stoat! /takes glass happily


GravatarThis was mentioned on a an earlier thread.

If you have a Macintosh, the application, Radioshift, from Rogue Amoeba, is highly recommended.

It plays streaming audio from all over the planet and you can schedule recording sessions for any of these stations.

Well worth the modest registration fee.

Currently listening to BBC World Service via Radioshift.


GravatarI get all my exercise from jumping to conclusions, flying off the handle and running around in circles.
spo cko


if it weren't for exercises in futility, some days i wouldn't get any exercise at all.


GravatarI DON'T live in that world (thank the Elders of Vulcan) so that is one reason why I can laugh at it. I think that one of my siblings had a relationship like that for a long time. (Divorced after 20 years).


good for you! Personally, I could look at Patricia Heaton forever except that she came out as a right wing hack. As I said, I laugh at it now, but there are a lot of painful parallels. My new life enables me to have that perspective. I am a lucky man.


Gravatar(O)(O)


GravatarFor the PC radio recording I use High Criteria's Total Recorder. Excellent little product.


GravatarChris Tucker, thanks for the heads ups on Radio Shift. Never heard of it but it sounds really cool.

TOW/Mac owner


GravatarI could look at Patricia Heaton forever except that she came out as a right wing hack


She embarrassed herself exceedingly during the Schiavo mess.

I was finished with her when she went on O'Reilly and trashed ladies like Sarandon and Streisand.

And then there's her Feminists for Life crap.


Gravatarwurk!
/maynard g. krebs
stoat


"WÖRK!" is the accepted spellage. Well, by me, anyway. With the rest of the universe soon to follow...


GravatarRE: Walking. Yes, excellent low impact exercise.

In point of fact, looking at the time, I need to make the two + mile walk to the 'local' Family Dollar and pick up some cheap Diet Coke for the rest of the weekend.

I've been doing this walk for over a year now, several times a week, to Family Dollar, the Shaw's Supermarket, SubWay, etc. The excess weight is gradually going away and it's helping the arthritis and BP.

So, that said, I'm off for my leisurely stroll to and from Hyde Park (Boston).

Back later!


GravatarI could look at Patricia Heaton forever except that she came out as a right wing hack.



Patricial Heaton has a Doppleganger on another TV show. Couldn't tell them apart.


GravatarI get all my exercise from jumping to conclusions, flying off the handle and running around in circles.
spo cko | Homepage | 11.29.08 - 3:16 pm | #



Just reading your comments, wears me out.


GravatarPatricial Heaton has a Doppleganger on another TV show. Couldn't tell them apart.
Jesse


I thought it was funny that they tried to put her on a show with Kelsey Grammer and he couldn't stand her.

That show didn't last long.


Gravatar"WÖRK!" is the accepted spellage. Well, by me, anyway. With the rest of the universe soon to follow...
Meanie-meanie, tickle a person


i'll accept that.

but i always have to look up how to WÖRK the umlaut thingie, along with accents of all kinds.

awright, if i'm going to remain a moving target today, i'd better get moving.


GravatarQuakerboy. I've seen Patrica Heaton up close and in person.
Observations
1) She is very tiny
2) Her teeth are yellow
3) She has that thin skin that you see in people who smoked or spent too much time in the sun with out sunscreen. That said, I don't have a problem with women with wrinkle.
4) She has a great timing and can deliver a punchline.
5) Her views on pro-life make her a hero to many people who are concentrated in some parts of the country (like the area I come from)
6) She is very open about her plastic surgery. (I loved a line that she used in the TV show about her possibly getting a breast lift.
"I've had three kids Ray. These are working breasts!")


GravatarTOW, essentially, you can pick up all the same stations via Real player, and the iTunes "radio" tuner.

It's the scheduled record feature that rocks.


GravatarI thought it was funny that they tried to put her on a show with Kelsey Grammer and he couldn't stand her.

That show didn't last long.
Terry


Kelsey Grammer's cool. Too bad he has some, um, bad habits.


Gravatar"I've had three kids Ray. These are working breasts!")



In real life, four boys.

And she once made a comment that it didn't matter if her boys got that much education.

I guess with her money, it doesn't.


GravatarKelsey Grammer is a wingnut, too.


GravatarOh yeah, it's the recording feature I want.


Gravatarand have not been able to exercise since we came back from Taiwan with the new little one.

I got Son one of those jogging strollers, which are also good for fast walking. He bundles G/Son up and they go out. He gets exercise. GSon gets fresh air. DiL gets few minutes peace.


GravatarJesus, I can't believe that my hangover has not subsided yet.

I bet it was the Java Stout made with sumatra beans.


GravatarIn real life, four boys.

And she once made a comment that it didn't matter if her boys got that much education.

I guess with her money, it doesn't.
Terry C ♥'s Pres. Obama
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She picked on Susan Sarandon my imaginary girlfriend!? Well, that's it then!

It's hard when people you find attractive have political views that are so different than yours. That is one of the great things about liking Susan Sarandon.


Gravatar Barndog: I bet it was the Java Stout made with sumatra beans.

If you did all the other stuff this morning, there's only two solutions left to ya:

1.) Nap, or;
2.) Coffee enema.
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GravatarI was going to say that Kelsey Grammer was at least talented but now I remember that he was riding re-hab when I went to see a live taping of Frazier.


GravatarShe picked on Susan Sarandon my imaginary girlfriend!? Well, that's it then!

It's hard when people you find attractive have political views that are so different than yours. That is one of the great things about liking Susan Sarandon.
spo cko


She and O'Reilly badmouthing Barbra and Susan.

I said "Where's YOUR Oscar, Patty?"


GravatarKelsey Grammer a wingnut? The coke-snorting drunk whose fellow cast members got him into rehab involuntarily so he wouldn't trash the show? Kelsey Grammer whose demons stem from the vicious rape and murder of his sister? A wingnut? I never knew! And to think that David Hyde-Pearce - an openly gay, fabulous stage actor - made his show. Who knew?


GravatarI started a fire in the fireplace. I "think" that I have the flue in the "open" position. We'll know soon.


Gravatarql, husband really wants to take you guys disc golfing...not sure if time/weather will permit however
ErinPDX


Hey, for that we'll stay an extra day.

Be warned, we suck at it. I'm still working on getting it to go 100 feet.

fuck you haloscum


Gravatar1.) Nap, or;
2.) Coffee enema

I'm on the coffee IV drip now.


GravatarYep...Grammer's a Repig:


http://www.nationalreview.com/ se...00405050839.asp


GravatarI think that I don't want to know about the political views of some actresses that I like. I also hate to find out that they smoke or use drugs. Then I though. Why do I care, it's not as if I have a shot at them. Let them smoke we aren't ever going to be buddies and she isn't going to come over to the house and ask "Can I smoke?" and I'll have to tell her, no go stand out side.

So I guess that Holly Hunter can smoke all she likes, we aren't going to be hanging out together.


GravatarCouldn't you just start drinking again?


Gravatarspo cko: Smoking isn't the same as trying to deny other women reproductive rights.


GravatarCouldn't you just start drinking again?

Well, I'd have to stop, first, and that would suck.


GravatarWell I've got to go an make a Cranberry Apple almond Crisp for some friends for Thanksgiving II, This Time with no crazy family.


GravatarCouldn't you just start drinking again?


Probally at ChiDyke's at dinner in a couple hours .

I really hate to re-begin this practice after stopping it for 10-12 years.


GravatarDangerous Opinions

from those who purport to be the defenders of freedom and american values to one of those that they falsely accuse of being in favor of totalitarianism

(from free republic to tacitus voltaire)

Your posting privilege has been revoked.

never doubt the power of words

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GravatarI got Son one of those jogging strollers, which are also good for fast walking. He bundles G/Son up and they go out. He gets exercise. GSon gets fresh air. DiL gets few minutes peace.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator


I had one of those when the little lefty was a baby. He loved going running with me, summer or winter. Usually was asleep before the first mile. Good times.


GravatarI'm kind of surprised at myself. I had to get a bunch of my medical records together to apply for new insurance (blah!), and I now don't have nearly the arthy issues I had several years ago--knock on wood. A few years ago I had a spur growing on a finger knuckle, it's gone now. I rarely take anything at all, but if I do it'd be aleve.


GravatarKelsey Grammer a wingnut? The coke-snorting drunk whose fellow cast members got him into rehab involuntarily so he wouldn't trash the show? Kelsey Grammer whose demons stem from the vicious rape and murder of his sister? A wingnut? I never knew! And to think that David Hyde-Pearce - an openly gay, fabulous stage actor - made his show. Who knew?

quakerboy


Those are some bad charges but the worse is that he father on Frasier was actually a ditty-writing piano player on Cheers. Rape is bad but an unexplained character role is treason.


Gravatarspo cko: Smoking isn't the same as trying to deny other women reproductive rights.
Terry C ♥'s Pres. Obam

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True.


GravatarOk, I knew that Patricia Heaton was a right-wing nut, although I wouldn't have kicked her out of bed (I have a vasectomy so the whole abstinence thing is moot). Frazier...I'm a bit rocked here. He seemed soooo...societally aware. My bad. So yes. I guess I don't need to know the stars' preferences. Like...my parents and Rock Hudson, right?


GravatarUsually was asleep before the first mile.

This is v old fashioned of me, but I believe kids sleep much much better when they get some fresh air, even if, actually, esp if it's cold air. G/Son was over the other weekend "helping" Son rake my leaves for a couple of hours in the crisp Autumn air. Took a 4 hour nap afterwards. Bundle them up and get them outside.


GravatarWalking is great. On a good day when the ligaments weren't too bad, coulld do three miles. Now the ligaments are finally improving, but there is a tremendous amount of tendonitis. I can barely make it from the living room couch to the bed.

I think using a kickboard once I am over the acute tendonitis ( both knees, both ankle.)


My back and his are stable for the firdt time in 20 years, though!


GravatarUgh!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Use...elebrities_Page


GravatarActors, er, act. They play someone they're not. That's the point of it.


GravatarI feel a nap is in my very near future. Later, fine people. BBE. (be back eventually)


GravatarJogstroller anecdote - the little lefty was at the age where he was just starting to talk. My cousin and his teenage boys visited us in Colorado and wanted to go hiking in the high country. So I took the little one in his stroller up a fairly strenuous trail. I was reduced to lifting and angling that damn stroller over fallen trees, rocks, etc. As the day got hotter, the trail steeper, my temper got worse. (CDousin and boys = no help at all). Turned a corned on the trail sw a string of fallen trees I was going to have to navigate, let out "Oh FUCK" -- spent the rest of the hike listening to little one chirping "fuck fuck fuck fuck", trying not laugh.


Gravatarnever doubt the power of words
tacitus voltaire


With the rightards, it's "the truth hurts."


Gravatar(from free republic to tacitus voltaire)

Your posting privilege has been revoked.

never doubt the power of words

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tacitus voltaire | 11.29.08 - 3:37 p


OMG, what did you say? was it treasonous? Of course you can't use the wingnut excuse when they are banned from a sight.

"So much for the tolerant liberals! So much for free speech! They don't like something they want to silence it! Here comes the Censorship Doctrine! I probably won't be able to say it after Jan 20th. Now I guess they will be classifying everything I say as "hate speech!"


Gravatar"Actors, er, act. They play someone they're not. That's the point of it."

Well, there is that.


GravatarActors, er, act. They play someone they're not. That's the point of it.
Moe Szyslak, eiditer


Yep, but I don't have to support them.


GravatarWhen I go outside, I can see smoke and heat coming out the chimney. That's a good sign, right?


GravatarNow I guess they will be classifying everything I say as "hate speech!"



If it walks like a duck....


GravatarWhen I go outside, I can see smoke and heat coming out the chimney. That's a good sign, right?

Generally, yes.


Gravatarhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Use...elebrities_Page
Terry C ♥'s Pres. Obama


David Lynch!?!


GravatarOur flue opens when you pull the lever outwards.


GravatarOMG Cyber Monday, the holiday is coming up. I'm going into CyberSpace and surf the Internets!


Gravatarpent the rest of the hike listening to little one chirping "fuck fuck fuck fuck", trying not laugh

I taught G/Son to say, "Mean people suck." Son was v not amused. But G/Son sounds cute as can be saying it.


GravatarOur flue opens when you pull the lever outwards.

I pulled it towards me. That's what the chimney guys told me to do, but they may have been wrong.


Gravatar"Yep, but I don't have to support them."

But Frazier and Niles were IT!!! Their insane obsessions and detail oriented phobias hit home! My favorite aspect of the whole series is that David Hyde-Pierce was written in for three episodes..then they realized he made the show. Several Emmys later, he's a Tony winner on Broadway. Thanking his partner the whole way. What's not to love???!!!


Gravatartacitus voltaire | 11.29.08 - 3:37 p
OMG, what did you say? was it treasonous?


in reply to this article

Shadow World: Resurgent Russia, The Global New Left, and Radical Islam

...The West is also threatened by a fifth column of global, radical Leftists with ideological connections to Russia and the theo-political-legal ideology of radical Islam...

i submitted a comment that began: "what a farrago of nonsense..."

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GravatarMy older sibling taught his kids to make right wing political statements about the Clintons. I suppose it was cute. The good news is that I have a feeling that they will reject his views just to piss him off now that they are older. We'll see. They always have their Uncle Spocko to visit in SF if they need another world view.


GravatarYoungest heard "fucking asshole" in the car. Enjoyed very much repeating it at dinner. Poor mr. ql couldn't figure out where she would have heard such a thing. Heh.


Gravatarhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Use...elebrities_Page
Terry C


Ugh, Denzel is on the list? I used to work with his auntie.


GravatarI managed to get my brother's ass whipped by the stepdad for mentioning the word 'potlikker' when we were kids.

I still laugh about that one.


GravatarI taught a friend's kid how to shoot the paper off a straw in a restaurant.
She still hasn't forgiven me.


Gravatar Hecate -- Good sign!

If you're even in doubt, holding a lighter or candle inside the chimney near the flue will usually clue you in, unless it's dead still outside.
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GravatarIn my defense, I taught him to say it about Cruella de Ville and worked outwards from there. And she is mean. And mean people do suck. So I don't think I'm a bad Nonna.


GravatarFor you east/west coasters, potlikker is a midwestern cuss out of the highest order.


GravatarSo far, lot of smoke visible outside, none inside. This may be one more thing I haven't fucked up, but it's too early to tell


GravatarFirst time all year that a safety couldn't stop Plaxico Burress: http://myespn.go.com/blogs/nfcea...zarre- turn.html


Gravatarpotlikker is a midwestern cuss out of the highest order.

I have never heard it before. Is it worse than "Mean people suck?" Because if it is, I could still teach it to G/Son before Xmas.


GravatarUgh, Denzel is on the list? I used to work with his auntie.
Jesse

The African-Americans and the women on that list, I just do not understand.

I guess everything else becomes subordinated to not having to pay your fair share of taxes.

And Danny Aiello can go fuck himself.


GravatarFor you east/west coasters, potlikker is a midwestern cuss out of the highest order.
Barndog, snow master


I thought it was the liquid left after cooking greens 'n' such.

Or am I missing some nuance here? Mo'n likely, ah s'pose.


GravatarHecate - did the chimney guys mention an outside fresh air feed to your fireplace?

Just asking, because the traditional flue designs use the ambient air inside your home, thusly burning your heat as fuel for the fire.


GravatarMy older sibling taught his kids to make right wing political statements about the Clintons


Child abuse.


GravatarHi, honey, I'm hooooooome!


GravatarRmj

I think that's pot liquor, which is the most nutritious part of the greens. But I may be wrong.


GravatarGrambling - Southern halftime on NBC
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GravatarI don't get Freddie Prinz, Jr. being on that list either. His poor dad is rolling over in his grave.


GravatarYoungest heard "fucking asshole" in the car. Enjoyed very much repeating it at dinner. Poor mr. ql couldn't figure out where she would have heard such a thing. Heh.
qlª - more lefty than you


When the Golden Child was a wee thing, the family ensconsed in the car and my wife stage whispers to me, to end a conversation: "She must think I'm a real bitch!"

Five minutes later, from the back seat, in a child's soprano: "Bitch. Bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch!" You can't imagine the pleasure in her voice, pronouncing this new word.

Another time, at dinner, the phone rings, I go to answer, and my daughter blithely announces: "Goddamnit!" Seems she'd been riding in the car with Daddy that day.....


GravatarI think that's pot liquor, which is the most nutritious part of the greens. But I may be wrong.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator


Always seen it spelled "potlikker."

Maybe it's a spelling problem....


GravatarHi, honey, I'm hooooooome!

Four words you hate to hear while having sex?


GravatarAnother time, at dinner, the phone rings, I go to answer, and my daughter blithely announces: "Goddamnit!" Seems she'd been riding in the car with Daddy that day.....
Rmj, Joe the Theologist


Step-bro was driving and someone cut him off; he said "Asshole!" 4-year-old echoed from back seat, "Asshole!" Mom says, "Aaron!" and kid says, shocked, "Daddy said a bad word!"


GravatarFour words you hate to hear while having sex?
Deacon Blues




GravatarOh why not. Three words you hate to hear while having sex? "Is it in?"


Gravatarand my wife stage whispers to me

this was how i learned the yiddish words "faygeleh", "momzer", "schwantz", etc...

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Gravatar(Yeah, trying to keep the typing to a minimum; Aaron was the kid.)


GravatarI pulled it towards me. That's what the chimney guys told me to do, but they may have been wrong.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator


Ours is that way - towards to to pen, away to close. 50-some-year old fireplace.


Gravatarto pen = open. Cold fingers.


GravatarHecate - did the chimney guys mention an outside fresh air feed to your fireplace?

Just asking, because the traditional flue designs use the ambient air inside your home, thusly burning your heat as fuel for the fire.


No, they didn't mention that. I had them come clean, etc. and then I had one fire w no problem. Next fire I had smoke inisde the house. My cleaning people had been here in between and my working theory, which may be wrong, is that they'd closed the flue. So I got out the notes that I wrote when the chimney guys were here and pulled the flue towards me (Open, according to them) and started this fire. Seems to be going ok, so far, and I can see smoke coming out the chimney when I go outside. Am I doing it right, do you think?


GravatarI don't get Freddie Prinz, Jr. being on that list either. His poor dad is rolling over in his grave.
Jesse


Freddie, Sr. got tired of rolling over in his grave after following his son's "acting career."


Gravatar. 50-some-year old fireplace.

Mine is 57, so that makes sense.


GravatarYou want to keep the flue closed between fires, to keep your heated air in your home.


GravatarOh why not. Three words you hate to hear while having sex? "Is it in?"
Deacon Blues



"Is that IT?"


GravatarHecate, I always used to build the fire stack (in the cradle), then wad up a section of newspaper, and light it when I opened the flue. Makes 2 things happen -

1. Takes the cold air out of the chimney, and

2. Makes sure your flue is opened properly.


GravatarHecate, you'd know by now if you weren't doing it right. I think you're a-okay.


GravatarSpeaking of heat, gotta go finish installing the furnace fan. Later, bats...


Gravatar"Are you done?"


GravatarThanks, Barndog and all. I hate to be such an idiot.


Gravatar"Are you done?"

"Three strokes is it?


GravatarFreddie, Sr. got tired of rolling over in his grave after following his son's "acting career."
Terry C

It's sad when a child of someone famous (Sr. meant a lot to the Chicano community) can't live up to the memory of the parent. But I guess we all carry that as well, famous or not.


GravatarBetter a warm idiot than a smoked idiot.


Gravatar"did I leave the webcam on?"


GravatarTwo unwanted words during sex:

"It happens."


GravatarIt's dreary.
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GravatarIt's sad when a child of someone famous (Sr. meant a lot to the Chicano community) can't live up to the memory of the parent. But I guess we all carry that as well, famous or not.
Jesse

His wife is equally untalented.

And Repugnican.


Gravatar"Yes, Aphrodite, YES!"

ahem.


Gravatar"Are you done?"

"Three strokes is it?
Barndog, snow master


"It's SO small!"


GravatarHow often do kids of famous actors or musicians outshine their parents?


GravatarHow often do kids of famous actors or musicians outshine their parents?
trifecta


Rarely.


GravatarThanks mer, et al. Seems to be going ok.

Amazing I can walk around outside unsupervised! After 6 years, I'm still figuring out this house!


GravatarHow often do kids of famous actors or musicians outshine their parents?
trifecta | Homepage | 11.29.08 - 4:10 pm | #

Well, Angelina Jolie for starters.


GravatarA few words unwanted during sex:

"You remind me of Jerry Bruckheimer"


GravatarLenny Kravitz did better than his mom Roxie Roker. Umm, that is a stretch though and different fields.


GravatarIt's dreary here too. Cold and rainy and gloomy.


GravatarAngelina Jolie for starters.


Meh!

She gets more publicity than her father.


GravatarNot opening the "tin" (whatever it's called in Finnish) can actually kill you because of carbon monoxide poisoning.


Gravatar mer: It's dreary here too. Cold and rainy and gloomy.

No rain, but TWC swears it's coming.
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GravatarGah, in English! It's the flue?


GravatarI prefer Donald Sutherland to Keifer.

What do all think of Lloyd v Jeff Bridges?


GravatarYou might throw Rufus Wainwright into the mix as well.


Gravatar Echidne: Gah, in English! It's the flue?

Oh, you haven't lived until you've experienced a flue fire. What fun!
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GravatarHow often do kids of famous actors or musicians outshine their parents?
trifecta

How about George Clooney. Or was Rosemary his aunt?


GravatarRosemary was his aunt. His dad was an actor though right? Nick Clooney.


GravatarMozart outshone his daddy.


GravatarI prefer Donald Sutherland to Keifer.

What do all think of Lloyd v Jeff Bridges?
trifecta


I prefer Donald, too.

Jeff Bridges made a great villain in "Iron Man."


GravatarAngelina Jolie for starters.


Meh!

She gets more publicity than her father.
Terry C ♥'s Pres. Obama | 11.29.08 - 4:12 pm | #

Wouldn't that fit a viable definition of "to outshine"?


GravatarRosemary was his aunt. His dad was an actor though right? Nick Clooney.
trifecta


George's daddy isn't hard on the eyes, either.


GravatarWouldn't that fit a viable definition of "to outshine"?
brian but not that brian


Not really.


GravatarQuestion:
Emilio + Charlie > Martin Sheen?

*Before* West Wing, answer would be Yes, but not today.


GravatarTC hearts PO,

Well, then I hope you have a new dictionary on your Amazon wishlist for the holidays.


Gravatarhow can you folx be forgetting the obvious examples?

Bill versus Irving and Gertie
Johah versus Lucianne
Frederick versus Donald

Each more loathsome and famous than the previous generation


GravatarWho *is* Angelina Jolie's father?


GravatarWho *is* Angelina Jolie's father?
Virginia, no, I'm working! | 11.29.08 - 4:19 pm | #

Jon Voight. You know, the guy whose car George Costanza bought.


GravatarToo much money plus too much free time?


http://www.comcast.net/articles/...ts- Burress.Shot


GravatarOther unwanted words during sex:

"You could fuck up a wet dream."


GravatarWell, then I hope you have a new dictionary on your Amazon wishlist for the holidays.
brian but not that brian


Condescending much?


GravatarGah, in English! It's the flue?

Yes Mom.


GravatarJon Voight. You know, the guy whose car George Costanza bought.
brian but not that brian


I think that was John Voight.


GravatarPlaxico..

At first I heard that he shot himself in the foot by accident.


Gravatar"I think the batteries are dead."


Gravatar"I hear the cat puking."


Gravatar"I think the batteries are dead."
shrimplate


"Beige."


Gravatar"My ex-wife's ass was almost as big."


Gravatar"I think the ceiling needs painting."


Gravatar"Your mom's asking you to pick up the phone."


GravatarFirst time all year that a safety couldn't stop Plaxico Burress: http://myespn.go.com/blogs/nfcea.../nfcea...zarre- turn.html
brian but not that brian | 11.29.08 - 3:53 pm | #

Jesse, that was my understanding as well.


Gravatardo you hear someone opening the door?


Gravatar"I'm kinda in a hurry. Can I have my $20 now?"


GravatarI think that was John Voight.
Virginia, no, I'm working! | 11.29.08 - 4:22 pm | #

Well, sure . . . but you're just saying that to drive the resale value down.


Gravatar"wake me up when you're done"


GravatarAfternoon, all!

What is a greater luxury than a Saturday afternoon with nothing to do and nowhere to go?


GravatarFun chatting, gotta go.

[he leaves]


GravatarMozart outshone his daddy.

Herr Mozart was Salieri to Amadeus...


Gravatar"hey lady, your sign fell down"


Gravatarrichard thompson has a song called "nearly in love," which he has been known to introduce in concert as "nearly in, love?"



i. am. so. bored.


Gravatar"wake me up when you're done"
ms fahrenheit/stop the wars


Worse: "Don't wake me when you're done."


GravatarI think s'ok. The time w the smoke must have been because the cleaning people close the flue.

I must say, Miss Thing thinks a warm fire is a v nice thing.


GravatarBut Falco surpassed Mozart.


GravatarThe younger Fondas


GravatarI don't feel like this is something to be celebrated:

When the officiant tells Claudaniel Fabien he can kiss his bride at the altar Saturday, no one will fault the couple for a little "should I tilt my head this way, or that way?" awkwardness.

It will be the couple's very first kiss.

And that night could be their very first ... uh, back to that kiss.

"I don't know how long it'll last, but it'll be great," says a confident Melody LaLuz, 28, who is marrying 30-year-old Fabien in Chicago after a yearlong courtship and two-year friendship.

The "no-kissing" rule came up as a way to prevent things from getting out of hand.

You see, Fabien and LaLuz both teach abstinence courses to Chicago Public Schools teens. And they say they practice what they preach.


GravatarOr, it could be like in Forrest Gump, where Jenny places his hand on her breast...

"I feel dizzy."


GravatarYou see, Fabien and LaLuz both teach abstinence courses to Chicago Public Schools teens. And they say they practice what they preach.
Tread | 11.29.08 - 4:28 pm | #


I'd put money on divorce within two years.


GravatarAnd they say they practice what they preach.

That is fucking sick.


GravatarHecate -- we used to put a cushion on the floor in front of the fire for our old black kitty so we could gradually slide him away from it. We were afraid he'd burst into flames, he wanted to be so close.

Also, once we brought in a bunch of firewood and there was a lizard on it, and he was thereafter convinced that firewood=lizard, so we'd have to watch that he didn't jump into the fire if a piece of ash or something blew around in there.

He wasn't a terribly bright individual.


GravatarHi!

And SHEETS!


GravatarI'll feel sort of bad if we do that to them today. hee.
ErinPDX

Not me, Erin. The way the Ducks lost last year's game allows me no sympathy for Oregon Agriculture College Beavers.


GravatarWhat is a greater luxury than a Saturday afternoon with nothing to do and nowhere to go?

I can't think of anything better than that.

I've worked in the yard v hard all weekend and, while there's more that I could do, the yard looks lovely, put to bed for winter, clean, beautiful. I've knit a sweater for my new great nephew and, if I feel virtuous, I'll do a hat and booties tonight. I've harvested a ton of rosemary and thyme and sage. And tomorrow may sleet, which would excuse me staying in all day and reading and knitting and doing nothing.

Life is good.


GravatarHow often do kids of famous actors or musicians outshine their parents?
trifecta


it's much less unusual in sports.

barry bonds, to name the most obvious example. both manning siblings.

like sarah palin, i will address the question i want to address rather than the one asked.


GravatarI would like to go down on Patricia Heaton.


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