I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Fuck em both.
Both are complete douchebags.
Jeez, Wolf got the seating right. For this he gets lots and lots of money. Fool.
Big deal. For once Wolf tries to correct the misstatements of GOP hacks. Too little, too late.
We have to praise these guys when they actually make a stand that supports the truth.
This should not be a remarkable event but unfortunately it is.
We have to praise these guys when they actually make a stand that supports the truth.
This should not be a remarkable event but unfortunately it is.
We have to praise these guys when they actually make a stand that supports the truth.
This should not be a remarkable event but unfortunately it is.
And Chalabi sat with Laura Bush. What's the point?
Their filty snouts sucking for air,
Repukes ascend from their scum-filled lair.
This newborn slime
Then seeks to begrime
Everything that is decent and fair.
It sounds more like name-dropping than journalism. "I was there." How dare you imply that I was somewhere other than a sky box? Hmmph!
That was just such a blatant lie that Wolf had no choice but to call him on it. Moore was shown far too many times sitting in the Carters' box. If Leslie had given a pass on this lie, he would have been irrevocably exposed for the whore/shill he is.
Not that anyone would give a shit.
The point is that Dem's need to stop whining about how bad the media is-I knew how bad it was ten years ago- and get off their buts and do something
But notice that Wolf only corrects him because he has firsthand knowledge of the issue at hand.
That was just such a blatant lie that Wolf had no choice but to call him on it. Moore was shown far too many times sitting in the Carters' box. If Leslie had given a pass on this lie, he would have been irrevocably exposed for the whore/shill he is.
Or: it's a perfectly irrelevant point that Wolfie used to prove he can "bring the heat."
Since even Michael Moore has a stronger reputation for asking tough questions than Blitzer.
And Jon Stewart? Well, at that point, there's simply no comparison.
SullyWatch nails it.
And will Wolf begin to vaguely realize this might be a sign that Republicans routinely lie in his face the way Mehlman did?
I don't even need to ask, do I?
What! Tweetie smacks down Malkin and now Wolfie hits the smarmy lying Mehlman with a two by four.
Why now? They have allowed so many lies to go unchallenged and now we see them actually trying to keep the lying liars of the right honest?
The point is that Dem's need to stop whining about how bad the media is
And how did the right-wingers gain their media ascendancy? By whining. And whining. And whining.
But people don't really watch the right-wing media, and the market is going to start correcting itself very soon.
But notice that Wolf only corrects him because he has firsthand knowledge of the issue at hand.
And it's all about as important, and relevant, as what color sweater Al Gore wore in the 2000 campaign.
Honestly, what is this guy's point? Michael Moore, the most famous documentary filmmaker on the planet, the man behind 3 bestsellers and the highset grossing documentary ever made, is friends with Kerry?
And Mehlman thinks this is a bad thing?
This guy's our man on their side! If this is how they "bring it on," well...bring it on!
Running my eldest off to college again this morning. (A bittersweet time, as parents of 20 year old boys will testify)
I wanted to vent my anger once more before the trek. I hate GWB. But my hatred is not the irrational hatred that conservatives accuse people of. Mine is a reasoned hatred and I am proud of it. If you take any issue that I have reached an opinion or belief upon in my greater than five decades of living, you will find the Bush administration diametrically opposed. Choose one: it really does not matter. Environment? I believe we are stewards of the land and have an obligation to our posterity not to sully everything. I believe that there is a rational middle to follow. GWB thinks that environmental regulations are simply unnecessary and would rather they were all gone. Worker's Rights? I believe that workplaces should be safe, healthy, and secure from unreasonable management. I believe that, if the government will not address the health care issues, then the companies must. GWB, again, believes that people are simply chattels to be exploited. And on and on.
But, my hatred is not irrational: it is real, reasoned, and palpable.
Not only did Chalabi sit with the First Lady (gack), we taxpayers were giving him a stipend of $380,000 a month to do so.
And had been for a few years I might add...
I, for one, am glad that Wolf corrects the GOP on the big points like, Seating Arrangements.
It keeps him from getting bogged down on the petty things like War & Peace, Social Issues and the Economy.
"If Leslie had given a pass on this lie, he would have been irrevocably exposed for the whore/shill he is."
the phrase "too little, too late" springs to mind.....
CNN Ratings:
Time Households Persons
7pm 371,000 435,000
I sent Leslie a congratulatory letter. Praise for good behavior. Stern teaching for bad behavior.
Moore attended the convention as a guest of the National Black Caucus.
Mehlman is a shameless piece of shit, and a bigass liar, just like his bosses.
Time for these lyin' sacks of shit to go.
It was Bob Rubin with Teresa Kerry. Heh.
Moore, as I understand, basically crashed Carter's little party. Celebrities are hard to throw out, even if Carter had wanted to.
Yesterday, a Republican shill responded to Kerry's attacks on "the debt trap" (a very real problem, by the way) by saying that no sentator had gotten more contributions from big banks (and how many senators are running for national office this year? Two?) than Kerry. The next paragraph in the CNN or AP story was:
"President Bush's campaign has recieved $528,000 from banks and other lending institutions, while John Kerry has received $92,000."
I like to think that they're learning. Slowly.
Like the War in Iraq was just a little mistake
er, per two threads above, hot sauce for bad behavior if they are sins of the tongue.
he missed the next follow up though:
"why lie to make point ?"
carter didn't know moore was there until he arrived about an hour after his speech. people in carter's skybox sorta pulled moore in as he was wandering around.
not that it matters.
Wolfy only lets lies go by that can't be faulted on himself. He witnessed the referenced event and has his "journalistic integrity" to think about. Now if this had been a swift boat liar saying anything about 35 years ago....
And Jon Stewart? Well, at that point, there's simply no comparison.
Jon's dissection of Wolf on TDS was a thing of beauty.
Regarding Tweety and Chicken Noodle Network seeming just a wee tad less than their normal total suck-ass mode, I would imagine the volume of irate emails and phone calls have increased along with the tempers of various participants and the ever dwindling news viewership. I mean you can't have synergy, without the cows buying up all the ever changing bling and blab, can you?
Who do you think penetrated deeper and wider, Israel or the radical Arabs behind Norquist? Whacking the Undersecretary for Policy takes an arrow deep into DOD Holy of Holies...but, then, its just like tavern prophets said after 911; the whole upper tier of the American establishment has been corrupted and compromised an day gots to go...oddly, would it have worked to America's favor if the 911 terrorists had not been successful in NY but had, by whacking some of these compromised generals and pols, in Virginia and DC?
Big deal, so he corrects them Mehlman on some meaningless point, to show he's balanced, and then will continue to give the big lies a pass. Maybe if he gets some positive reinforcement he'll get braver, but I'm not breaking out the party hats yet.
And that's some kind of victory? Jeebus. Amazing how small the bones are getting these days...
What low expectations we have.
It's like Baby Huey's attack on Malkin --it's all about him
Wolfman Hack is corrupt and a wee little guy.
Bush lies from what he would do for first responders to funding children's health --what he said and what he did...
home page link takes you to
what Bush said and what Bush did
on everything from first responder failedfunding to every child left behind
I understand Michael Moore is covering RNC as a USAToday columnist. Can someone confirm?
ecoast - according to Moore's website, that is indeed the case.
Wolfie likes to keep the fanciest of his gentleman callers happy, but some things like lying about seating arrangements go beyond the pale. I'm sure Wolfie gave Ken something real sweet later on that evening just to keep him interested.
I agree. Too little, too late.
Though I was under the impression that it was the former president's daughter Amy Carter who 'sort of' invited Moore to sit in their box? I thought I remembered reading somewhere that she was a fan of his?
Correct me if I am wrong.
Except trolls, whose opinion I don't care.
MYOB'
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One might also make the observation that Moore was a big booster of Clark, not Kerry, during the primaries. One would be hard-pressed to find a Kerry-Moore connection.
This does make me wonder how things would have played out with F911 and such had Clark received the nomination... because then Moore really could be seen as Clark's surrogate.
>Can someone confirm?
He is doing a column ala Ann Coulter, ooops, the Goldberg kid.
If Blitzer hadn't been "there", he probably would have given the fool a pass. In any event, the important thing for Blitzer to remember is - as Rob Cordry reminds us - that incontrovertible, documentary proof is "only one side of the story." God forbid he should start putting a filter on the news...
Well, it's complicated and controversial. Probably, we'll never know for sure. Some say MM sat one place, but others dispute that and other facts. We report; you decide.
>because then Moore really could be seen as Clark's surrogate.
Not really. Madonna endorsed Clark (she thought he was real spiritual). The act of endorsing a candidate, doesn't necessarily make you a surrogate, except in the loosest terms.
Is Moore a 527? No. He is an independent film maker with a lot of extra cash in his pockets, and sense of political responsibility.
I saw it and had the exact same reaction: whoa, Wolf's doing his job. Maybe the people at CNN are starting to figure out that IT'S BORING to watch someone like Mehlman sit there and recite talking points. Maybe they're figuring out that powder puff interviews aren't exactly a huge draw.
The other thing that was interesting about that particular interview was how effortlessly Mehlman lied. I had to back it up and watch it a second time because it was striking. Sociopath. And Wolf corrected him a second time!
BLITZER: He sat with Mrs. Carter, Jimmy Carter -- and former President Jimmy Carter, just to be precise. I was there.
MEHLMAN: I apologize for that. But he is somebody who from the beginning the Kerry campaign has relied upon to deliver their message. He has made a lot of outrageous statements about this country, about our response to the war on terrorism. And we are happy to have Michael Moore out there speaking for the Kerry campaign as he has been for the past several months.
BLITZER: I don't think he's speaking for Kerry campaign...
They lie, they lie, and they keep on lying until someone calls them on it.
...and then they lie some more.
That Wolf and Matthews are actually starting to challenge conservative lies after rolling over for so long suggests two possibilities to me.
One is that, having deducted that the conservatives aren't going to win this fall they have begun sucking up to their new alien overlords. or...
They're beginning to get tired of seeing their names listed on MediaMatters on a daily basis in another article about the lying media.
Personally I think it's the later. No amount of millions of dollars in salary can make up for when someone day after day, week after week keeps pointing out that they suck at their jobs.
Volvf Bleeitzer acting like a human for a split-second? Time to check his meds I guess.
this morning on cnn in "On the story", we had candy crowley talking about how george bush loved the pressure - the more, the better he performed.
she left out how much more medication he needed.
Hey CNN, from now on, when Americans exercise their right to peacefully assemble, let's report on the peacefulness of the assembly only when it is not. Deal?
re: Planned Parenthood rally in NYC on CNN.
Am I the only one who thinks it was much cooler to be in the Carter Box than the Kerry box, anyway?
Nancy,
You are not the only one. Carter is pure class through and through. A true gentleman in every sense of the word. Words fail to convey the love and deep abiding respect I feel for Jimmy Carter. And, Jimmy only gets better and better as he goes on...
And THK isn't classy?
Uh-oh! Wolf is going to get called on the carpet for that one. I'm sure once he's properly chastened he won't make the mistake of correcting an interviewee with anti-democratic views again.
>And THK isn't classy?
Well, actually no. And there is no way she would the likes of Michael Moore in HER box.
He's just "not our kind dear."
this morning on cnn in "On the story", we had candy crowley talking about how george bush loved the pressure - the more, the better he performed.
So "some Democrats" are concerned about Kerry's responses to the SBVT, and everything else...?
But Bush "performs better under pressure"?
Like he did on the morning of 9/11, in that classroom?
No, no media bias here. Completely objective...
I'll retire to Bedlam.....
>I'll retire to Bedlam.....
Maybe we can get a group rate.
So, have the GOPranos flip-flopped and asked Poppy to address the convention this week?
Wouldn't his absence be rather conspicuous?
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Mehlman must have been thinking of Chalabi in Laura Bush's box. Oh. Sorry. That sounded dirty.
You see, because Michael Moore and Teresa Heinz Kerry were in the same building, Michael Moore was with the Kerrys.
MEHLMAN: I apologize for that. But he is somebody who from the beginning the Kerry campaign has relied upon to deliver their message. He has made a lot of outrageous statements about this country, about our response to the war on terrorism. And we are happy to have Michael Moore out there speaking for the Kerry campaign as he has been for the past several months.
very impressive, how he's able to condense the anti-war, anti-bush stance moore has into some tight little ball that only kerry and him and some guy that owns a cafe down the street have...
as if more than half of this country isn't thinking what moore is thinking and agreeing with him, and as if the vast majority of the rest of the world thinking that exact same thing means nothing either.
Leslie's still getting the duck pit, though.
Wolf Blitzer also did a segment last night pointing out that the AWOL charges against w are accurate. He didn't say "he was Awol" but he said all the investigations have shown that he was missing for a year and that he was suspended from flying. I was in such shock I had to go lie down with a cool cloth on my head.
" people in carter's skybox sorta pulled moore in as he was wandering around.
not that it matters."
NIce to see seating charts don't matter quite so much to Eschaton's amateur kremlinologists when its Michael Moore under discussion and not Ahmed Chalabi.
No, it was Ahmed Chalabi who sat with Laura Bush that was the guy one of the candidates in the current presidential race said he hardly knew ...
Oh, sorry -- thinking of something else.
"No, it was Ahmed Chalabi who sat with Laura Bush"
whoops I take it back. I guess we can now start holding Carter (not Kerry) accountable for Moore's many distortions.
Good to know, thanks!
even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Candy Crowley said Bush responded well under pressure?
Here's a bit from the NYT interview (at which GWB was accompanied by FOUR handlers -- because, you know, he loves the pressure):
"Mr. Bush appeared unfamiliar with an administration report delivered to Congress on Wednesday that indicated that emissions of carbon dioxide and other heat-trapping gases were the only likely explanation for global warming ...
The new report was signed by Mr. Bush's secretaries of energy and commerce and his science adviser. Asked why the administration had changed its position on what causes global warming, Mr. Bush replied, 'Ah, we did? I don't think so.' "
And this:
"Showing none of the alarm about the North's growing arsenal that he once voiced regularly about Iraq, he opened his palms and shrugged when an interviewer noted that new intelligence reports indicate that the North may now have the fuel to produce six or eight nuclear weapons."
I take full credit for this amazing turnaround in Wolf's performance. I think the latest e-mail I sent to Eason Jordan (cc to Wolf) regarding Wolf's continuing inability/reluctance to follow-up when people spout the standard talking points or say interesting things like Bob Dole's off-mic utterance about the McCain ad has finally worked. I mentioned CNNs dismal ratings lately and explained to him we don't need to actually watch his disgraceful network to hear about all the bias and/or incompetence of his on-air readers.
So I'm taking credit for this. Of course, the thousands of others who wrote Mr. Jordan are welcome to claim their share of the prize.
So, wear your ribbons proudly, ladies and gentlemen. We earned 'em.
Unfortunately, he quickly reverted to form. He asked a good, needling question about the smear campaign against Kerry following in the footsteps of the McCain and Cleland smears, but when Mehlman immediately and angrily dropped into the bullshit ``This election isn't about 30 years ago bullshitbullshitbullshit yaddayaddayadda''and completely skipped the question, Blitzer of course didn't bother to follow. It was nice to hear the little fuckweasel Mehlman have to apologize for the Moore seating ``mistake.''
Blitzer should have called him a fucking liar and thrown him off the show.
The New York Post printed a letter the other day that also claimed that Michael Moore sat in Kerry's box.
Thank God, with this one exchange, the media has redeemed itself.
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