I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Thus saith Republican Jesus:
Don't be concerned about the spy. It's good that the U.S. is doing Israel's bidding. It keeps the apocalypse on schedule.
SHUT IT DOWN: NYC GENERAL STRIKE
Wednesday September 1st, 2004
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A general strike will be more beneficial to Democrats than a rally, protest, march, etc. because it displays and implies the disapproval of native New Yorkers toward Bush's NYC policies and posturings since 9/11 (fewer police officers, employing NY as a backdrop for your strength whilst shortchanging ("unemploying") security forces, etc.). That indigenous citizens of NYC are taking part in "shutting down" NYC, and not some imported bandana-wrapped hippie out-of-towner, would (might mildly...) dissuade the media from portraying it as an act that inconveniences New Yorkers, since NYers made the decision to inconvenience themselves.
The general strike idea works where it is tried ("Old" Europe, East Asia, etc.), Americans just don't try it that often, regretfully so because it is far more promising and less potentially disastrous than a rally where one or two unhinged (read: pro-Osama or virulently anti-Semetic, neither of which would play well to anyone rational, much less a NYer) speakers or attendants could do something rash or premeditatively idiotic and in turn get THOSE actions/words shown on the 5pm news instead of the 99% positive/peaceful demonstration. What can people do that would be despicable or portrayed negatively (by the SCL-media) if they're skipping a day of work (at home) out of range of a camera crew???
I doubt even FoxNews would report on the fact that a leftist commie protestors lazing about at home was caught eating peanut butter directly out of the jar, though while I'm convinced of everything else I've said, I'm not sure about that... (Also: sorry about the double thread post).
foist.
Two golds for Argentina! Yes, there is life after neo-liberalism.
Has anyone got an idea what happened to My War (one of the best milblogs i've read so far)? Mil. censure?
P.S.: Parts can still be found in the Google-cache.
Yay!! We're number three!!
Bush campaign push-polling in Oregon to scare voters about Kerry's cancer
From a diary on dKos
Bush is an asshole double talking hypocryte,that doesnt care one iota about the people of this country.Him and his cabal are in it for the destruction of the American way of life and to wreck as many lives as they can.
They are on the verge of taking out many of our constitutional rights and are hell bent on making everyone of us a fundamentalist christian or bible thumping idiots.
If he should be selected there will become mandatory bible school in our public schools and retraining for all "liberals".
To all you trolls who visit tonite.Can you in good conscience vote for someone who is massing huge amounts of debt on your children vote for another 4 years of massive debt on them?
Cann you in good conscience approve of the internment of innocent civilians inside foriegn prisons by this administration?
If so,what will you tell your children?
I did it for you?
While they languish in despair of a newly created thirdworld country.
Jeez, catch this from the NYT Week In Review story about the SBV:
Erik Johnson, the chairman of Young Americans for Freedom, the campus-based conservative group, was born in 1975 - the year Saigon fell - but he said his members found the old debate entirely relevant.
"It affects us directly now," he said. "Here you have John Kerry saying he's a war hero, and then he's consistently anti-strong national defense. We have a lot of members who want to join the military, but not under him."
Other Priorities, ver. 2004
Al French is one of those in the SBVT ad against Kerry's Vietnam record.
He has some accounting to do for his affidavit and adv:
[transcription of letter, copied to me as a complainant]
Oregon State Bar
5200 S. W. Meadows Road
Lake Oswego, OR 97035
Alfred J. French III, Esq.
Clackamas County DA’s Office
Oregon City, OR 97045
Dear Mr. French:
The Oregon State Bar has received the enclosed correspondence and e-mails from numerous sources. Pursuant to Bar Rule of Procedure 2.5(a), the Client Assistance Office reviews all inquiries regarding lawyer conduct to determine whether there is credible evidence of misconduct. Some of these concerns may implicate the provisions of DR 1-102(A)(1) and DR 103(A)(3).
Many of the inquiries contend that your affidavit and the advertisement make representations that are misleading. Please explain what role you played in preparing and producing the affidavit and the advertisement, and your intent in doing so.
In order for me to make a fair and informed analysis, I would like to have your account of the matter on or before September 9, 2004. I am able to grant an extension of the time to respond for good cause if requested before the deadline.
A copy of your response will be sent to the inquiring parties. All material submitted by the parties in the course of this investigation is public record and both parties will receive copies.
After I review all documentation and information gathered in this matter, if I feel that further investigation is warranted or that there is credible evidence of a violation of the disciplinary rules, the matter will be referred to Disciplinary Counsel’s Office for further handling pursuant to BR 2.5(a)(2). Your failure to respond to this request will also result in the matter being referred to Disciplinary Counsel’s Office.
Sincerely,
Scott A. Morrill
Assistant General Counsel
John Kerry has cancer ha ha ha ha
Smores anyone?
here is a statement from one of my military friends:
"John Kerry never voted to increase military spending or programs in his 20 years in the senate."
I'm sure there are at least a few programs or funding that Kerry voted to add at least once, anyone know the facts about this?
Go Jim!
Pray For A New President!
Can you imagine what this country will be like if Bush doesn't have a re-elction to worry about? No checks. No balances. Pray for us. Pray for US.
I guess Rudy Guliani is still acancer victim by that definition
It is so despicable to use JFK's cancer against him. I never cease to be amazed at the disgusting levels to which the Bush Camp will stoop to win.
Does this make you angry? Call the Bush Campaign in Oregon and demand an explanation.
Bush/Cheney Oregon
(503)293-4142
Defence spending has become a huge burden on the public at large.FOr what?So we can heve a new Nuculear submarine?SO we can buy a pig in a poke called missle defence,that does'nt work?
The military has had many opportunities to straiten out their finances and have yet to become accountable.Shoot,they cant even account for where their money is going.Why oh why cant the American public see that the defence of this country has become a sham?The American taxpayer has bee shafted for way too long on military projects that are wasteful and many that dont work.
Military industrial political compex.Rememer that!
General strike in NYC?
More than half the people I know have left town for the week.
At work we were given the option of working from home.
What a fine specimen that we have for President
The Medical History of President George W. Bush
For your reference, the following site has compiled all of the charges and the holes in them:
http://swiftvets.eriposte.com/
I imagine Kerry's vote for the 87 billion qualifies as a vote for military spending. It certainly wasn't domestic spending. Which is too bad, because my district (in Texas) always digs having lots of extra ammunition around, just in case.
here is a statement from one of my military friends:
"John Kerry never voted to increase military spending or programs in his 20 years in the senate."
Send your friend to Factcheck, pointing out that it's nonpartisan:
"The Bush campaign bases its claim mainly on Kerry's votes against overall Pentagon money bills in 1990, 1995 and 1996, but these were not votes against specific weapons. And in fact, Kerry voted for Pentagon authorization bills in 16 of the 19 years he's been in the Senate. So even by the Bush campaign's twisted logic, Kerry should -- on balance -- be called a supporter of the "vital" weapons, more so than an opponent."
here
"Ten Ways Bush Screwed New York" The Village Voice. Stunning Articles!
http://www.villagevoice.com/issu...434/
barrett.php
By Wayne Barrett
texas loves ammo .. especially those drive through liquor/ammo stores where if you get an urge to re-enact "natural born killers" you don't have to really conspire much at all
lovely state, texas, they still executing them on a bench to save time down there? works better than a chair because you can only do one at a time
Your military friends is an ass
he would rather have someone who didn't serve, who mocks someone who did and a president that charged soldiers while in the hospital recovering and sent soldiers to Iraq without body armour. Rep.Ellen Tauscher a Democrat on the House Armed Services Committee helped correct this horror. Bush thinks of the military as a costume shop.
Families
When John Kerry returned home from Vietnam, he joined his fellow veterans in vowing never to abandon future veterans of America's wars. Since then, John Kerry's commitment to veterans has never wavered, and he stands strong with them to this day.
John Kerry has fought with veterans in their struggle for better care in VA hospitals, in their efforts to cope with post-traumatic stress disorder and Agent Orange exposure, in the battle for military strength and military pay, and in their quest for answers about POW/MIAs. Throughout his decades-long career in public service, John Kerry has tried to be a voice and a champion for the men and women in uniform who serve our country.
In his efforts, John Kerry is guided by this basic rule: "Mission First, Troops Always." As president, he will make that rule a reality by implementing a comprehensive plan for veterans and military families to eliminate the disabled veterans' tax, ensure mandatory health care funding, and affirm the United States' covenant with its soldiers and their loved ones in a Military Families' Bill of Rights.
Ensure Mandatory Funding To Assure Quality Health Care. Over the last three years, whole classes of veterans have been locked out of the VA health care system. Decisions by the Bush administration will, at the current rate, exclude approximately 500,000 veterans by 2005. That's nothing more than rationed health care. As president, John Kerry will insist on mandatory funding for veterans' health care to ensure that no veteran's health need ever goes unmet.
Eliminate The "Disabled Veterans" Tax. Today, hundreds of thousands of disabled military retirees are being taxed on their disabilities. Under an 1891 law, retirees who receive both pensions and disability compensation must surrender one dollar from their military retirement pay for every dollar they receive in disability compensation - so their disability pay is actually being subtracted from their retirement fund. Military retirees with disabilities are the only category of Federal employees that lose some of their retirement simply because they are disabled.
John Kerry thinks this policy needs to end. As president, he will enact "full concurrent receipt," a policy that would do away with the archaic 1891 law and allow veterans with disabilities to receive both the retirement they've earned and the disability payments they are due.
Make the Veterans' Administration (VA) More Responsive. Today, some 330,000 veterans are awaiting their disability rating, and 130,000 are waiting to hear back about appeals of ratings dec
Rove to leader of Britain's Conservative Party:
Fuck You
Anonymous above with the factcheck link was me.
According to Alcoholics Anonymous, as many as 50% of alcoholics have relapses. And those stats are for folks that seek help through the program, unlike our dear Chimperor thought he could recover all on his own.
Bush's untreated alcoholism is more a threat to our national security than Kerry's illness, for which he actually received medical treatment.
"At work we were given the option of working from home." -curly
I believe the general strike is intended to be more for blue collar, service oriented workers who could not possibly telecommute to their jobs. Not having IT, marketing directors, managers, publishers, etc. go to work will accomplish nothing. In my opinion the strike is meant to disallow the RNC from obtaining ordinary services (as they expect to be provided by their minimum wage slaves...) such as dining in restaurants, seeing broadway plays, having their hotel rooms cleaned, and those sorts of things. Anyone who can "work from home" is probably not someone who would either see the use in a strike, participate in one, or would be a useful striker.
Though here's hoping professed leftward-voting white collar workers would actively promote/advertise the general strike, support their fellow NYers, and disapprove of scabbing. If not, one has to wonder where the left is in this country if we can't even get behind a strike in the face of extraordinarily unfair policies circumstances, you know? How far would be have strayed from our proud labor roots? Such dishonorable apathy, callous disinterest, or outright disapproval would be a sad thing to witness OUR modern left doing...
Hey, Jim in Portland -
Thanks so much for your continued effort regarding that worm, Alfred French. I've been writing his spineless boss, and have written to the Oregonian to thank them for their coverage.
I hope French gets his butt nailed against a wall for his deceitful behavior.
Best wishes to you!
A better question might be of your military Provide Mandatory Funding of Veterans Health Care
The Bush Administration chronically under-funds VA health care. There are nearly 90,000 veterans waiting for healthcare appointments. Instead of adding sufficient resources to a system desperately in need of them, President Bush has frozen whole classes out of the VA system. By the Bush Administration’s own estimate, their policies will exclude approximately 500,000 veterans from the VA healthcare system by 2005. President Bush also proposed increasing fees and co-payments in an effort to shift the burden for care onto the backs of veterans and drive an additional million veterans from the system. John Kerry will end the game of playing politics with funding for veterans health care. He will insist on mandatory funding for veterans health care. In a Kerry Administration, veterans will get the appointments they need with VA doctors and the federal government will invest the resources necessary to make sure that no veteran has an unmet health care need.
Do Not Overstretch the Military
George Bush Has Overstretched the U.S. Military
The Bush administration has compensated by using the National Guard and Reserve and more than 154,000 are on active duty. Reservists are overburdened and many may leave the military in large numbers because they can no longer make military service compatible with their lives.
John Kerry Will Reduce the Strain on the Military
He has called for a temporary increase of about 40,000 active-duty Army troops. This increase would be temporary but likely last the remainder of the decade. About 20,000 of the troops would be in such specialties as military police and civil affairs which are currently predominantly found in the reserves. The other 20,000 would be combat troops. Kerry’s proposal will be budget neutral because he will streamline some large weapons programs, putting more emphasis on electronics and advanced sensors and munitions and by reducing the total amount of money spent on missile defense.
Make the Veterans Administration Responsive
Under George Bush, 280,000 veterans await their disability rating. In addition, some 108,000 other veterans are waiting to hear back on appeals of rating decisions. John Kerry will streamline the VA so that veterans hear back about their status and receive benefits they are eligible for in a timely manner, supporting legislation, appropriations, and other steps as needed so that such decisions are made promptly and fairly.
Properly Compensate Soldiers and Their Families for Their Service
John Kerry believes that we need to treat our troops and their families with respect, dignity, and fairness in what they are paid, where they live, and where their children go to school. We need to make sure our troops are paid enough so that we address problems of retention and enlistment – and we should improve active duty housing for soldiers and their families. And as some
General strike?
Great idea. Hope it gets enough publicity to be widespread. My guess is that its starting a little too late, but who knows.
smalfish -- they (trolls) can't and they don't care about those things. We're talking small minds enslaved by the propaganda they hear.
However, many non-troll republicans can still be reached. Remind them of that debt, remind them (if they're old enough) what a crappy job Bush has done on Medicare. I've found that there are many moderate Republicans who are uncomfortable with the direction Bush has taken the country but haven't yet abandoned the ticket out of misplaced loyalty to their party. Expose them to what some of the GOP candidates (MoveOn had a good list of these folks along with quotes they've made) who are demonstrably unamerican, like the guy who said we need to suppress the vote, the candidate who goes door to door campaigning but only introduces himself to whites, etc.
Hammer them. Don't waste any time on dead-enders like the trolls here. The people we need to talk to are the decent ones in the GOP who have watched their party get hijacked by a radical agenda. These people are close to abandoning Bush. We need to give them that push.
Sorry if this has been posted already...Michael Moore writes a letter to Bush:
It Takes Real Courage to Desert Your Post and Then Attack a Wounded Vet
August 26, 2004
It Takes Real Courage to Desert Your Post and Then Attack a Wounded Vet
Dear Mr. Bush,
I know you and I have had our differences in the past, and I realize I am the one who started this whole mess about "who did what" during Vietnam when I brought up that "deserter" nonsense back in January. But I have to hand it to you on what you have uncovered about John Kerry and his record in Vietnam. Kerry has tried to pass himself off as a war hero, but thanks to you and your friends, we now know the truth.
First of all, thank you for pointing out to all of us that Mr. Kerry was never struck by a BULLET. It was only SHRAPNEL that entered his body! I did not know that! Hell, what's the big deal about a bunch of large, sharp, metal shards ripping open your flesh? That happens to all of us! In my opinion, if you want a purple heart, you'd better be hit by a bullet -- with your name on it!
Secondly, thank you for sending Bob Dole out there and letting us know that Mr. Kerry, though wounded three times, actually "never spilled blood." When you are in the debates with Kerry, turn to him and say, "Dammit, Mr. Kerry, next time you want a purple heart, you better spill some American red blood! And I don't mean a few specks like those on O.J.'s socks -- we want to see a good pint or two of blood for each medal. In fact, I would have preferred that you had bled profusely, a big geyser of blood spewing out of your neck or something!" Then throw this one at him: "Senator Kerry, over 58,000 brave Americans gave their lives in Vietnam -- but YOU didn't. You only got WOUNDED! What do you have to say for yourself???" Lay that one on him and he won't know what to do.
And thanks, also, Mr. Bush, for exposing the fact that Mr. Kerry might have actually WOUNDED HIMSELF in order to get those shiny medals. Of course he did! How could the Viet Cong have hit him -- he was on a SWIFT boat! He was going too fast to be hit by enemy fire. He tried to blow himself up three different times just so he could go home and run for president someday. It's all so easy to see, now, what he was up to.
What would we do without you, Mr. Bush? Criticize you as we might, when it comes to pointing out other men's military records, there is no one who can touch your prowess. In 2000, you let out the rumor that your opponent John McCain might be "nuts" from the 5 years he spent in a POW camp. Then, in the 2002 elections, your team compared triple-amputee Sen. Max Cleland to Osama bin Laden, and that cost him the election. And now you are having the same impact on war hero John Kerry. Since you (oops, I mean "The Swift Boat Veterans for Truth!") started running those ads, Kerry's poll numbers have dropped (with veterans, he has lost 18 points in the last few weeks).
Some people have said "Who are you, Mr. Bush, to attack these brave men considering you yourself have never seen combat -- in fact, you actively sought to avoid it." What your critics fail to understand is that even though your dad got you into a unit that would never be sent to Vietnam -- and even though you didn't show up for Guard duty for at least a year -- at least you were still IN FAVOR of the Vietnam War! Cowards like Clinton felt it was more important to be consistent (he opposed the war, thus he refused to go) than to be patriotic and two-faced.
The reason that I think you know so much about other men's war wounds is because, during your time in the Texas Air National Guard, you suffered so many of them yourself. Consider the paper cut you received on September 22, 1972, while stationed in Alabama, working on a Senate campaign for your dad's friend (when you were supposed to be on the Guard base). A campaign brochure appeared from nowhere, ambushing your right index finger, and blood trickled out onto your brand new argyle sweater.
Angus, here is some info on what happened to the My War blog:
NPR story
Then there was the incident with the Crazy Glue when your fraternity brothers visited you one weekend at the base and glued your lips together while you were "passed out." Though initially considered "friendly fire," it was later ruled that you suffered severe post traumatic stress disorder from the assault and required certain medicinal attention -- which, it seems, was provided by those same fraternity brethren.
But nothing matched your heroism when, on July 2, 1969, you sustained a massive head injury when enemy combatants from another Guard unit dropped a keg of Coors on your head during a reconnaissance mission at a nearby all-girls college. Fortunately, the cool, smooth fluids that poured out of the keg were exactly what was needed to revive you.
That you never got a purple heart for any of these incidents is a shame. I can fully appreciate your anger at Senator Kerry for the three he received. I mean, Kerry was a man of privilege, he could have gotten out just like you. Instead, he thinks he's going to gain points with the American people bragging about how he was getting shot at every day in the Mekong Delta. Ha! Is that the best he can do? Hell, I hear gunfire every night outside my apartment window! If he thinks he is going to impress anyone with the fact that he volunteered to go when he could have spent the Vietnam years on the family yacht, he should think again. That only shows how stupid he was! True-blue Americans want a president who knows how to pull strings and work the system and get away with doing as little work as possible!
So, to make it up to you, I have written some new ads you can use on TV. People will soon tire of the swift boat veterans and you are going to need some fresh, punchier material. Feel free to use any of these:
ANNOUNCER: "When the bullets were flying all around him in Vietnam, what did John Kerry do? He said he leaned over the boat and 'pulled a man out of the river.' But, as we all know, men don't live in the river -- fish do. John Kerry knows how to tell a big fish tale. What he won't tell you is that when the enemy was shooting at him, he ducked. Do you want a president who will duck? Vote Bush."
ANNOUNCER: "Mr. Kerry's biggest supporter, Sen. Max Cleland, claims to have lost two legs and an arm in Vietnam. But he still has one arm! How did that happen? One word: Cowardice. When duty called, he was unwilling to give his last limb. Is that the type of selfishness you want hanging out in the White House? We think not. Vote for the man who would be willing to give America his right frontal lobe. Vote Bush."
Hope these help, Mr. Bush. And remember, when the American death toll in Iraq hits 1,000 during the Republican convention, be sure to question whether those who died really did indeed "die" -- or were they just trying to get their faces on CNN's nightly tribute to fallen heroes? The sixteen who've died so far this week were probably working hand in hand with the Ker
Hope these help, Mr. Bush. And remember, when the American death toll in Iraq hits 1,000 during the Republican convention, be sure to question whether those who died really did indeed "die" -- or were they just trying to get their faces on CNN's nightly tribute to fallen heroes? The sixteen who've died so far this week were probably working hand in hand with the Kerry campaign to ruin your good time in New York. Stay consistent, sir, and always, ALWAYS question the veracity of anyone who risks their life for this country. It's the least they deserve.
Yours,
Michael Moore
mmflint@aol.com
www.michaelmoore.com
P.S. George, I know you said you don't read the newspaper, but USA Today has given me credentials to the Republican convention to write a guest column each day next week (Tues.-Fri.). If you don't want to read it, you and I will be in the same building so maybe I could come by and read it to you? Lemme know...
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Anybody catch Bill Maher last night? He gave it pretty good to Swift Liar O'Neil, but parroted everybody else on the 527 issue. Basically, they let Caligula change the subject from lies vs truth to 527s are bad. And he kissed Tweety's ass for being tough on his guests. Being a belligerant asshole doesn't make you tough on anybody. Speaking of assholes, Dana Rohrbacher is a 5 star flaming one. Thoughts?
DON'T STOP AT RUMSFELD
(Yelling is pasted in from the Opinion piece, which is short, sweet and to the point...)
Steven D. and others:
If you know Republicans who are on the fence about the Boy King, send them to:
www.republicansforkerry04.org
They are working in the battleground states to get John Kerry elected.
The USA network is showing what America will become if Bush should be reselected.
USA in the very near future
The Kerry rally in Tacoma had a large crowd (but I haven't heard any estimates on size) and was carried almost entirely by Northwest Cable News. They showed Wes Clark, Jim Rassman and Kerry.
The fundraiser last night was very good also. They'd hoped to get $1 million, but got $1.5 million! Weee!!
Also, I saw an ad run by the DNC. A very large empty building, some kind of manufacturing plant. The only voice over is Bush's saying things like "Our econmy's strong and getting stronger" while text on screen has actual economic figures. It was well done. It needs to air nationally.
***texas loves ammo .. especially those drive through liquor/ammo stores where if you get an urge to re-enact "natural born killers" you don't have to really conspire much at all
lovely state, texas, they still executing them on a bench to save time down there? works better than a chair because you can only do one at a time***
Yes to all counts. But to be fair, we love ammo because the feds keep recruiting us to fight your Yankee-conceived wars (Bush wasn't born in Texas, remember. I guess LBJ was, though.) Northerners do most of the thinking; we do most of the dying when the thinking is limited to such thoughts as, "Hey, we should invade a multi-ethnic Middle Eastern nation with a nearly half-and-half Sunni/Shiite split! Worked for the British!"
Ps. Dems should push poll in Oregon about Bush's lobotomy.
Kate thanks.
Will do.
More Kerry votes of interest to the military including pay raises and troop strengthening
Tell your asshole friend in the military not to depend on any Republican to do anything but lie
Add 40,000 troops and double anti-terrorism special forces. (Jul 2004)
End the backdoor draft of reservists, help is on the way. (Jul 2004)
Will lead a global effort against nuclear proliferation. (Jul 2004)
Quickly implement the recommendations of the 9-11 commission. (Jul 2004)
Bush's foreign policy has not made American safer. (Jul 2004)
Four new imperatives: alliances, modernize, end Mideast oil. (May 2004)
Exaggeration by the Bush administration should be questioned. (Jan 2004)
Bush administration is misleading America in a profound way. (Jan 2004)
Increase military by 40,000 troops-but no draft. (Jan 2004)
Bush misused the authority Congress gave him. (Jan 2004)
Color-coded warning system needs to be changed. (Jan 2004)
Focus more on human intelligence gathering. (Nov 2003)
Make certain the veterans have benefits. (Nov 2003)
Focus on first responders instead of duct tape. (Oct 2003)
No new generation of nuclear weapons. (Sep 2003)
Automatic citizenship to immigrants who serves in army. (Sep 2003)
Voted YES on adopting the Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty. (Oct 1999)
Voted YES on allowing another round of military base closures. (May 1999)
Voted NO on cutting nuclear weapons below START levels. (May 1999)
Voted YES on deploying National Missile Defense ASAP. (Mar 1999)
Voted YES on military pay raise of 4.8%. (Feb 1999)
I write a eulogy for the Republican Party over at my blog. The crux of the article: the Republicans have chosen orthodox ideology above all else, and have thus poisoned American politics.
I'd appreciate any feedback or ideas you have on the article! Thanks.
Why does George Bush hate old people?
I write a eulogy for the Republican Party over at my blog. The crux of the article: the Republicans have chosen orthodox ideology above all else, and have thus poisoned American politics.
I'd appreciate any feedback or ideas you have on the article! Thanks.
sorry!
I didn't mean to post that twice! I'm such an idiot!
smalfish, I think this Kurt Russel "Escape from..." movie is more in keeping with Bush and the Vulcan's fantasyland. Everyone is in jail and there are constant terror attacks to keep Americans frightened and voting Republican:
IMDB "E.F.N.Y." synopsis: Due to huge crime rates, the United States turns its once great city of New York into a maximum security prison where hardcore criminals are put for life. All the bridges leading into the city are mined, a large wall is built along the shoreline and a large police force army is based there to stop or kill any attempted escapees. En route to a conference, the President, on board Air Force One, is forced to eject in a pod when a female terrorist takes over the controls and crashes the plane into a building. A new prisoner, ex-soldier Snake Plissken is offered his freedom if he goes in, frees the President and finds a tape with important information for the conference. Snake agrees but to ensure his co-operation he is injected with a small but powerful explosive that will only be destroyed if his mission is successful. Snake must set out into the decaying city, filled with immoral criminals, and he must succeed - for his own life.
Yup, that'd be the future if we keep building jails, provoking terrorists, providing propaganda, and sending jobs overseas, and... well basically if we use the Republican Platform to be laid out next week as a blueprint for the country. So let's hope that simply remains a mediocre movie (well, I don't like it) and an awful RNC dream...
Now, if the general strike goes down and the RNC had to "Escape From New York" because they couldn't get their lobster dinners delivered to their hotel rooms (and their transsexual prostitute got ornery and became violent...), that'd be a plot worth watching!!!
Wha' happened?
Time-stamp on the Open Thread is 1:56 PM, yet it had to have shown up (here, anyway) in the last half-hour, and the first post is stamped 5:54 PM (praise Republican Jesus).
the Republicans have chosen orthodox ideology above all else
Good christ! When did this happen?
Dana Rohrbacher is a 5 star flaming one. Thoughts?
Dana Rohrbacher was a full on pot head in college. I'm sure he lost a lot of cells back then and never fully recovered.
Nothing more conservative than a reformed whore. He's got lots in common with the shrub.
are his lips moving
That is one awsome site you have linked to there.
Everyone ought ot at least check it out once,if not over and over to gain a handle on what it is we are fighting.
Ahem, I meant this movie. Haloscan isn't a movie, yet.
Ask your military friend if he suffers from stockholm syndrome?
The Bush Record on Veterans
President Bush likes to talk about the tremendous sacrifice offered by American veterans to defend the country. But words are all he's offered them in return. Bush's has repeatedly squeezed the veterans health care system, closed VA hospitals, and imposed new costs on and denied benefits to middle-income vets.
Bush Has Consistently Short-Changed Veterans Health Care
Bush imposes new costs on middle-income vets. Bush's 2005 budget will institute a new annual $250 enrollment fee and an increase in prescription drug co-pays from $7 to $15 for middle-income veterans. In 2003, Bush tried to pass the same charges on middle-income veterans, only to be rebuffed his own Republican-led Congress. And in December 2001, Bush more than tripled the prescription co-payments for nonservice-connected veterans from $2 to $7.1
Bush rejects VA Secretary's plea for more money. The Department of Veterans Affairs received $1.2 billion less than it requested from the White House when President Bush's fiscal 2005 budget was assembled, Secretary Anthony J. Principi told lawmakers in February 2004. The revelation during the House Veterans' Affairs Committee's first hearing on the budget reaffirmed the view of many legislators, including House VA Committee Chairman Chris Smith (R-NJ) that the administration has underfunded veterans programs in its budget.2
Bush Cuts Waiting List... by Forcing Vets Out of the System
Bush promises to reduce waiting times on the backs of middle-income vets. At a time when demand for VA health care is at its highest point in history, the White House guaranteed "the waiting list for medical care will be reduced from its high of 300,000 to zero in early 2004." Waiting lists may indeed decline if middle-income veteran health care recipients decide not enroll in the VA health care system and others drop out due to the new proposed user fees. VFW Commander-in-Chief Edward Banas said, "The budget seeks to drive veterans from the system by realigning funding, charging enrollment fees for access and more than doubling the prescription drug copayment." DAV and AMVETS estimated that more than 500,000 middle- and low-income veterans would be forced out of the VA medical system, leaving many without access to affordable health care.3
Bush denied health care health benefits to more than 160,000 veterans. In January 2003, rather than seek additional funding, the VA instituted a new policy that blocked approximately 164,000 middle-income veterans from enrolling in the VA health care system. VA Spokesman Jim Benson said the "temporary adjustment" was needed to relieve a "strain on resources" caused by increased demand.4
Bush proposed closing seven veterans hospitals. In August 2003, the Bush Administration announced it was closing seven hospitals in its efforts to "restructure" the Department of Veterans Affairs. Hospitals to be cl
Y'all think Texans love ammo? Holy shit, people, you don't have a clue unless you've been to the western slope in Colorado. There are more guns per household here than anywhere else in the nation. They sell guns and ammo in the only general grocery store in this town. They sell guns and ammo in a gift shop downtown that otherwise sells candles, tee shirts, home decorating kitsch, etc.
Most of Texas would have to stay up all night for 3 weeks buying guns and ammo to even come close to just this county in Colorado. I'm not trying to whitewash Texas, but honest to Pete, I may be one of only 3 people in this entire county who doesn't own one gun. Pretty much everyone else here owns at least 3, and one of them is a handgun. Colorado is the most gun-happy states in the U.S.
Glad to see the world would take it out on the right people if given a chance:
WASHINGTON (AP) - Secretary of State Colin Powell canceled his trip to Greece at the last minute partly because of concern his presence - expected to be met with anti-war protests - might have disrupted the closing ceremony at the Olympics, State Department officials said Saturday.
Powell's decision, announced just hours before he was to depart, came after anti-American protests in Athens on Friday that featured ``Powell Go Home'' placards.
Sucks to be you, doesn't it, Colin?
smalfish | Email | Homepage | 08.28.04 - 6:31 pm
I was certain after seeing "USA Network" up there that the link would go to a box-set of The Dead Zone.
Speaking of guns and ammo, this story will amuse you:
NEW YORK (AP) - Note to delegates and other convention attendees: Leave your guns at home. As New York increases security for the Republican National Convention, the event's organizers are making sure nothing's left unsaid. That's why ``weapons'' topped a list of prohibited items sent out in advance.
Phil Morris, a 62-year-old delegate from New Albany, Miss., said he had seen the list before he arrived in New York Saturday. ``It's probably a good idea,'' he said of the gun ban, though he added that ``I would really prefer to carry one for protection.''
The list mentions explosives, fireworks and knives - ``regardless of size'' - as well as some less obvious items. Don't try to get into Madison Square Garden with balloons or a stroller.
Hope it doesn't rain because umbrellas are out.
``Umbrellas - especially the big golf-type ones - they could be used in an improper way as a weapon,'' said Ann Roman, a spokeswoman for the Secret Service.
Did we read stories like this before the Dem Convention?
Haloscan isn't a movie, yet.
::shudder::
After going through the end of the Foghat thread... "Haloscan: The Movie" would have to be in wide-screen format.
The USA network is one of the only networks that is *not* owned by the big three.While true they are owned by Universal.It is pretty close to the only independant television network we have left.
Universal also runs the Scifi network.About the only channels I can watch without being totally pissed off.They seem to be as neutral as they come these days.
Too bad one of the big three is trying to buy them out,Viacom I think.
HEY!, what's Bush going to do about THIS terrorism? Can we expect him to stand on a file cabinet outside the laboratory with a bullhorn denouncing the bombing and vowing to find those responsible? Perhaps wearing a white labcoat as he pretends to be a scientist? I'm guessing not. HYPOCRITE. Where the hell is the White House press corps, and why aren't they pressing this question HARD???
Though God knows even if Bush did decide to go after these actual terrorists instead of neo-con boogiemen he'd just screw it up the way he has the Osama hunt...
Oops I think I should have said big four instead.
"We have a lot of members who want to join the military, but not under him."
Interesting. Kerry's not president. Are the baby chickenhawks losing faith in their candidate and believe we're going to have a Kerry presidency come November?
Twisted Martini: I live in california and I am considering a "dana rohrbacher voters for truth" website and campaign to pull the plug on that low-brained retard. He used to be a surfer -- wink, wink -- which means he bashed his head more than a few times on rocks catching the tube, if you know what I mean.
he needs to go - especially after his stance on the environment on bill maher (most surfers I know would thank him for the needles, medical waste and oil that runs onto the shore almost daily in cali).
he's nothing more than a right wing pimp and completely out of touch
if there are any cali folks willing to put some skin in the game -- i am game
Ohhhh... "this terrorism" = Pipe bomb explodes at U.S. stem-cell lab...
From the article linked to above, we find this gem:
During a speech-editing session on Friday, Hughes said, Bush told his speechwriters to accentuate the "transformational power of liberty." She said he will argue that freedom and democracy are the best weapons against terror.
WHY don't their heads explode? That's what I just don't understand! These are the people who believe that the American people don't have a right to know anything about what their government is doing. These are the people who require loyalty oaths of anyone who attends any of their "rallies", and who arrest anyone who wears clothing that suggests anything less than sheeplike devotion to the Bushies! How can these people even say the word democracy without toads and snakes pouring out of their mouths?
we could also go after Dreier as well -- another pin head
Oompa loompa doom pitty doo
Did Bush do jail time in '72?
Fuck politics.
Anyone read Robert Rankin or Jasper Fforde?
I think Fforde has the edge on originality.
But Rankin has a shitload of material.
For those who missed it
http://news.com.com/
How+eight+pi...g=st.rc.targ_mb
"Microsoft has also managed to upset women and entire countries.
A Spanish-language version of Windows XP, destined for Latin American markets, asked users to select their gender between "not specified," "male" or "bitch," because of an unfortunate error in translation."
The USA network is one of the only networks that is *not* owned by the big three.While true they are owned by Universal.It is pretty close to the only independant television network we have left.
I wonder if that explains some of the stuff the writers get away with on The Dead Zone. I don't watch a lot of series-TV unless you count HBO/Showtime, but are any other series dealing with subjects like evil politicians rigging voting machines?
check this link out on dana rohrabacher -- just if you need some good laughs
ORANGE COUNTY WEEKLY OC Weekly: Cover: Rogue Statesman
Rohrbacher with Afghan rebels, 1988
Photo courtesy Congressman Dana Rohrbacher
"[Rohrabacher] says the Taliban are devout traditionalists—not terrorists or revolutionaries. He believes a Taliban takeover [of Afghanistan] would be a positive development."
—Washington Report on Middle East Affairs, November/December 1996 issue
WHY don't their heads explode? That's what I just don't understand! These are the people who believe that the American people don't have a right to know anything about what their government is doing. These are the people who require loyalty oaths of anyone who attends any of their "rallies", and who arrest anyone who wears clothing that suggests anything less than sheeplike devotion to the Bushies! How can these people even say the word democracy without toads and snakes pouring out of their mouths?
Nora
I could understand if the majority of americans ever wanted to know what their country is doing.
But they don't.
So, why would most people care if Bushco lies?
Smallfish Universal bought/merged with NBC so sorry
Anonymous, please use tinyurl in the future: tinyurl.com
Here's some more guns and ammo-related actual terrorist activities.
No umbrellas involved, though.
Anonymous, the only Robert Rankin I read was The Hollow Chocolate Bunnies of the Apocalypse, but that was brilliant and just weirder than anything I've read in years. Has he written anything else? Is the rest of his work that bizarre?
That said, I do love Jasper Fforde, though I've only read the first two books (and I liked The Eyre Affair better than the second book because it seemed more audacious).
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.
Ummm, the hell is going on? Is haloscan broken? Why did mine come out as "petey?"
Oh. Haloscan has not developed new problem. Little brother was using my computer posting as "petey." Very sorry for any confusion if there's been cross-pollenation of our responses/posting, God only knows what was posted w/ what name. However, HAHA, VERY glad to see he actually listens to me sometimes and is pushing the NYC general strike! Go Pete(y)! AT least it wasn't a troll.
To make this post more political than it has been up until now: When is John Kerry going to make Bush's inaction on mad cow disease an issue and release a testing plan? Bush has made it illegal to even test the cows for MCD! And if Bush has decided to use scare and smear tactics, why can't Kerry use fearmongering in response to an actula shortcoming and in pursuit of an actual policy. Kerry, START TALKING ABOUT MAD COW & BUSH'S INACTION!!!
Speaking of assholes, Dana Rohrbacher is a 5 star flaming one. Thoughts?
I doubt it.
"[Rohrabacher] says the Taliban are devout traditionalists—not terrorists or revolutionaries. He believes a Taliban takeover [of Afghanistan] would be a positive development."
—Washington Report on Middle East Affairs, November/December 1996 issue
syntallic
It was in some categories.
The Taliban controlled the warlords, who did more damage.
The Taliban limited poppy growing.
If you look at Afghanistan before the Taliban it was much worse for the populace than under the Taliban.
Which tells you how really shitty Afghanistan is.
Anonymous: TinyURL please!
dammit...
you know, rohrabacher, just shows how in touch the rethugs are with foreign policy -- and I would dump this into the fray.
It's a total outright criminal act
s a speechwriter and special assistant to President Ronald Reagan, Rohrabacher played a key role in the late 1980s getting money and arms, including U.S.-made Stinger missiles, to Afghan holy warriors, then at war with the Soviet Union. He once bragged of being "certainly a major player" in a coalition inside the White House that supported anyone "opposing Communist domination around the world." In November 1988, he even visited the Afghan front lines during a five-day hike with an armed mujahideen patrol in eastern Afghanistan. Among those fighters he encountered, he later recalled, were "Saudi Arabians under a crazy commander named bin Laden."
petey, I haven't been near a computer and haven't watched teevee for two days, but was this even a big news story?
I bet the answer is no, because it's being perpetrated by fundie terrorists in this country who are every bit as scary as the ones overseas.
People need to get a clue. A HUGE clue.
Smallfish Universal bought/merged with NBC so sorry
I had heard they were trying to get bought up.That sux that it happened.I thought I had been seeing too many promos from NBC but I thought it was because of some rights deal over Law and Order.
Guess not.
So much for the independance of television anymore.But,then again we knew it was a matter of time.
i guess congressman surfer dude picked the right faction?
Jim Rasmussen, not petey, I guess.
interesting article:
IS ISRAEL BLACKMAILING AMERICA?
Though God knows even if Bush did decide to go after these actual terrorists instead of neo-con boogiemen he'd just screw it up the way he has the Osama hunt...
He'd also be in the awkward position of throwing a big chunk of his constituency behind bars.
"[Rohrabacher] says the Taliban are devout traditionalists—not terrorists or revolutionaries. He believes a Taliban takeover [of America] would be a positive development."
JimPortlandOR >> "Many of the inquiries contend that your affidavit and the advertisement make representations that are misleading. Please explain what role you played in preparing and producing the affidavit and the advertisement, and your intent in doing so."
Please report what you get back (if, that is, you do get something back). I'm still left wondering what Mr. French's motivation was, what he thought he'd get out of making his "SVBT" statement.
He should have known it would focus a lot of attention on him, and risk exposing the skeletons in his closet.
If one had a t-shirt made up that said, "ADA French Lies for Bush," and wore it into his courtroom, how long would it take for them to get kicked out? 
Of course, Philalethes, that's the reason this administration was so busy downgrading counterterrorism as a priority from the time they came into office: because they were afraid that counterterrorist efforts would focus on the fundie nuts who were part of their base. Don't expect to see the stem cell bombing become news; it wasn't in the New York Times today.
here's some more on rohrabacher - if he was a democrat, they'd be calling for his head on CNN, MSNBC and FOX
What’s remarkable is not only Rohrabacher’s attempt to rewrite history after Sept. 11, but there’s also his glaring naivete, evident in his bungling assessment of the Qatar meeting. One member of his entourage, Khaled Saffuri, executive director of the Islamic Institute, a Washington, D.C.-based group that partially bankrolled Rohrabacher’s trip, said he was impressed by how "flexible" Taliban officials appeared. Rohrabacher came away equally impressed. He announced he would travel to Afghanistan to work out details with the Taliban.
But Rohrabacher was out of his league. In the Afghan capital of Kabul the next day, Muttawakil presented Rohrabacher’s plan to the Taliban. Mullah Omar immediately issued a statement denouncing American efforts to orchestrate a new Afghanistan government. "The infidel world is not letting Muslims form a government of their own choice," he declared.
More darkly, 137 miles east across the border in Pakistan, Osama bin Laden measured the distance between Rohrabacher and diplomatic reality. "I issue a call to the young generation to get ready for the holy war and to prepare for that in Afghanistan," he said during an April 11, 2001, pro-Taliban rally in Peshawar broadcast throughout the region. "I appeal to you to teach Muslims that there is no honor except in holy war." The hard-line crowd of 200,000 carried pictures of burning American flags and chanted, "U.S., listen to us! We are the death of you!"
While Rohrabacher waxed optimistic, American diplomats became increasingly suspicious of the Taliban. On April 27, 2001, the U.S. State Department officially rebuked Rohrabacher’s meddling. Alan Eastham, assistant secretary of state for South Asia, told reporters that while the congressman belongs to the president’s Republican party, he did not have authorization for a diplomatic mission. Rohrabacher "did not inform us in advance of his plans with the Taliban," Eastham said.
Is anyone else irritated that the GOP have the nerve to have a big thing honoring Johnny Cash at their convention?
Then again, Cash felt deep commitment to the poor and imprisoned, so I guess the right wingers did much to further his career by making people poor and putting them in prison...
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.
Nora
Rankin has a fansite
http://www.sproutlore.com/
It looks as if he has over twenty books.
All very unique.
The Brentford trilogy has five books.
rohrabacher is at least an idiot if nothing else, but he playing with the taliban less than six months before 9/11
what a dickhead
HEY!
SOmeone was bitching at me yesterday because I said something about the Isrealies that were cheering when the towers collapsed.
They wanted a link or wanted me to hush up about it.
Nanananaa!
I'm sure the 10 million cancer victims nationwide would appreciate the repugs using cancer and lying scare tactics in an attempt to affect how Americans select their next president.
Is NOTHING beyond these bastards? Nothing?
Anonymous: TinyURL please!
dammit...
Silleigh
Aww, honey it ain't the gun but the gunner.
Don't matter if your url is tiny.
Someone will want you.
Rohrabacher aids insisted that the American-Israeli Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), which regularly sponsors congressional fact-finding missions to Israel, never offered to take Rohrabacher along.
But an official at AIPAC’s legislative affairs department gave a more nuanced account. “We’ve offered repeatedly to take Rohrabacher to Israel, but he always had a scheduling conflict.” The one time Rohrabacher asked AIPAC to sponsor him was to make a trip during the Easter recess. “That happens to fall during the Jewish Passover, when nobody is around you can talk to,” the AIPAC official said. “We don’t do Israel trips over Passover.”
ARE YOU CATCHING ON YET??????
Just saw some of the sickening "Beltway Boys" on Fox. They're still all over the swift boat thing, especially the Cambodia issue, and the fact that another swift boat guy named Schachte came out against Kerry. Of course they failed to mention that two of Kerry's crewmates deny that Schachte was present during the the event in question, but never mind small details.
No mention of the Israeli spy, but I didn't see the whole show. I did, however, watch CBS News and they seemed to be downplaying the whole issue, waiting until 10 minutes into the program to mention it. And when they did they featured an "analyst" who said he thinks it's overblown and doubts the Israeli's would spy on us again.
I hate to say this, but I don't think this is going to do much damage to Bush. I hope I'm wrong.
Just saw some of the sickening "Beltway Boys" on Fox. They're still all over the swift boat thing, especially the Cambodia issue, and the fact that another swift boat guy named Schachte came out against Kerry. Of course they failed to mention that two of Kerry's crewmates deny that Schachte was present during the the event in question, but never mind small details.
No mention of the Israeli spy, but I didn't see the whole show. I did, however, watch CBS News and they seemed to be downplaying the whole issue, waiting until 10 minutes into the program to mention it. And when they did they featured an "analyst" who said he thinks it's overblown and doubts the Israeli's would spy on us again.
I hate to say this, but I don't think this is going to do much damage to Bush. I hope I'm wrong.
pie - you're absolutely right, I can't believe that a research laboratory was bombed (BOMBED), albeit "only" pipe bombed, on thursday and the most visible mention I've seen of it has been the very last headline in MSNBC.com's Health section.
It's incredibly scary, because what are these right-wing fundie terrorists going to do when the government is "in the wrong hands" (in their divisive, polarized minds) when Kerry wins... They won't feel like they are destabilising a friendly regime as they may with Bush in office and they'll be more prone to violence.
The media, of course, will be shocked (SHOCKED!) by their actions because they've paid so little attention to the obvious and increasing signposts and signatures of rightwing domestic terrorism even after OKC... They will then strain to distance these rightwing terrorists from the GOP (who have winked and nodded at them for far too long), as is their biased way. Meanwhile, protestors against the likely still ongoing Iraq war will still allowed to be tarred and feathered as terror sympathizers...
Such is our future, so welcome to 1984 (again), where our government encourages rightwing terrorists at home, doesn't give "much thought" to catching terrorists abroad, and bombs civilians to keep the adrenaline-soaked revengemongers happy. ARGH.
damn closing tags, i'm very sorry about that.
Not Israelies -- Palestinians read the article
Is anyone else irritated that the GOP have the nerve to have a big thing honoring Johnny Cash at their convention?
Yes.
It's an affront to everything that Johnny Cash ever stood for, and an outright insult to his memory. It's a slap in the face to everyone who ever really listened to the social commentary in his music.
Just another instance in which any sane human being would be ashamed. But, of course, they're Republicans... they have no shame, and no decency, and no honor whatsoever.
You people are just a bundle of joy tonite.Pipe bombing a stem cell research lab and the Isrealli's tapping every phone in America.
How sweet it is to be in the "know"
Why should anyone be surprised that the Republicans are trying to subvert Johnny Cash's musical legacy?
They've been trying to subvert Jesus Christ's legacy for years.
They won't feel like they are destabilising a friendly regime as they may with Bush in office and they'll be more prone to violence.
But Ashcroft will be a distant nightmare, and the new Attorney General and FBI head will be decidedly unsympathetic to these terrorists.
Why should anyone be surprised that the Republicans are trying to subvert Johnny Cash's musical legacy?
They've been trying to subvert Jesus Christ's legacy for years.
HAHAHAHA ... if the real jesus christ were to stand up today/he'd be gunned down cold by the CIA
-lyrics by The The
Watching Novak on CNN right now, he is absolutely the lowest. Not sure who the other players are.
Jim, I am already decidedly unsympathetic, as are many of us.
Speaking of pipe bombing.DOes nayone have any information on that guy the feds found in Texas with a complete arsenal?The one that never made the headlines.
Was he convicted or did Asscroft decide he was "ok"?
During a speech-editing session on Friday, Hughes said, Bush told his speechwriters to accentuate the “transformational power of liberty.” She said Bush will argue that freedom and democracy are the best weapons against terror.
Ah yes. Which is why we're using AC-130 'Spooky' gunships to teach this important lesson.
Oh, any plans for your son to go to Iraq, Karen? No?
But there are so many supporters of right wing terrorism in this country, and just like fundamentalist terrorists elsewhere every arrest is a martydom... It doesn't matter that Kerry would actually crack down on these groups, since their perception is everything here, and their perception would be that a Kerry administration is one they can commit their terrorist acts against via lab bombings, clinic bombings, Dr. assassinations, etc.
You are of course right in the long-term, I'm speaking only of a possible initial spate of right-wing terror at the beginning of a Kerry admin. Long-term we'd actually have a president, Mr Kerry, who would be committed to fighting ALL terrorism, not just the kind that doesn't actually exist. So, all of this and more are reasons I worry short-term about rightwing terrorists and their GOP cheerleaders and will be a long-term Democratic voter!
Aww, honey it ain't the gun but the gunner.
Don't matter if your url is tiny.
Someone will want you.
Anonymous
Around here, when it comes to URLs, smaller is better, less is more; people
are more likely to keep reading a thread if the margins aren't blown to shit by a
long URL. For many of us on pretty standard systems, that's what happens.
Novak is a bottom feeder for the Rethugs and he couldn't find a story unless someone was shaking the tree for him.
Then again .. isn't he a gatekeeper for the neo-cons?
Activists need to do a job on him and xray his life and lifestyle -- just like he does to his so-called "adversaries"
Thanks for the camaraderie-in-outrage, not to mention the highly suggestive JC (Jesus Christ)/JC (Johnny Cash) parallels... That hadn't occurred to me...
I believe in freedom of the press but many of these folks really should be reviewed for their facts. I am not sure what form that would take, but if Kerry is elected, I think examining the press/media should be a priority. It is not a matter of simple opinion or differences in the facts, it appears to me to be a determined and likely managed process to eliminate the truth. Lord HaHa and Tokyo Rose should have company in history books. Novak, Limbaugh, Hannity and others should definitely have their names ledgered if found to be operating in collusion. I hate insinuating this sort of investigation for fear it would have the opposite effect of gagging the press.
ain't it just amazing how Rethugs want to legislate morality until it affects one of their own?
wonder what the Preznut would do if Jenna wanted an abortion?
we already know where Cheney is with his daughter.
We should have nominated anyone but Kerry.
Eat shit Maureen Dowd:
Here's a bit of good news. Let's hope it continues.
Poll: More Believe Bush Behind Attack Ads
Someone was bitching at me yesterday because I said something about the Isrealies that were cheering when the towers collapsed.
That was me, smalfish, and I said a credible source. I don't think that site meets the criteria.
We should have nominated anyone but Kerry.
And the award for most inane and unproductive comment goes to...
How many STDs do the twins have?
Just curious.
who cares about the press -- we need to take back the equal time provision for media.
the marketplace has already shown that it cannot regulate itself
heck we have parental warnings on rap CD's - we should be labelling the news (for the children, of course) -- so busy parents don't have to parent .. wink, wink
syntallic
Excellent suggestion. Why if these folks are going to gin up the news, don't folks gin up their background but factually. Outfoxed is about the only real effort I have seen, but lets get down to brass tacks. Novak with his personality alone should have a few skeletons in the closet. Then there is Rush. Hannity? ? ? Where there is arrogance, there is usually a few moments when the sense of power went to the head.
Send your friend to Factcheck, pointing out that it's nonpartisan:
"The Bush campaign bases its claim mainly on Kerry's votes against overall Pentagon money bills in 1990, 1995 and 1996, but these were not votes against specific weapons. And in fact, Kerry voted for Pentagon authorization bills in 16 of the 19 years he's been in the Senate. So even by the Bush campaign's twisted logic, Kerry should -- on balance -- be called a supporter of the "vital" weapons, more so than an opponent."
here
Anonymous | Email | Homepage | 08.28.04 - 6:21 pm | #
Good point anonymous, but like all the other misguided and moronic Bush attacks, they presuppose that his yawling and bawling is gonna resonate with the folks who are planning to vote for Kerry or with the indies who have deep reservations about him and who are looking to switch.
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I think it is certainly good if Kerry et al debunk it, as part of their campaign strategy to show that Bush campaign is based on lies and distortion and smears, and on the whole I think it will be reassuring per se.
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But I really doubt if more spending on histrionically expensive weapons systems and making defense contractors more rolling in tax payer money or billions and billions being whooshed overseas or being a Rubber Stamp for Rethugs is what the communities want to see.
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I think our side wants to see sensible spending but also stalwart oversight whereas Bush wants to whoosh the money out of the communities and absolutely can’t stand the least bit of responsibility and oversight.
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Dana Rohrbacher is my Congressman. He is up for re-election in Nov, and I will vote for any one else. Late 1998, I wrote Rohrbacher and asked that he not vote to impeach Pres. Clinton. I received a two page letter back that informed me of all the serious crimes that Clinton has committed. Perjury, obstructed justice, engaged in witness tampering, attempted to secure a job for a subordinate to ensure her silence, abused his office by invoking executive privilege to thwart the case.
My God, you would have thought Clinton went to war on info based on lies, was personally responsible for the deaths of 1000 American Soldiers, and 6000 wounded, $180 billion for the Iraq war so far, a deficit of $445 billion, and 44 million Americans without health coverage, not to mention the 1.8 million lost private-sector jobs and I could go on and on
Dana Rohrbacher is a Bush flunky. He should be driven from office. A radio station here has nominated Rohrbacher and 4 other Congressmen to choose from, to select one that they intend to blast, chop, stir and hack to pieces, and hopefully cause his defeat this election. I am hoping they pick Rohrbacher or David Drier.
friar: We should have nominated anyone but Kerry.
I nominate you... to run up your own ass and fight for air. Oh! Pardon me. It seems you've already been fitted with your sphincter collar.
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How many STDs do the twins have?
Just curious.
David Ehrenstein - 7:34 pm
I think the official GOP thinking on this is abstinence outside of marriage. Surely you aren't suggesting..
Yahoo! News - Poll: More Believe Bush Behind Attack Ads
Wowza, there is hope for this electorate after all. For the neo-idiot who states that we should have nominated somebody other than Kerry, you haven't begun to see a fight like the one Kerry is about to mount.
He is the right guy at the right time - John Edwards or Wesley Clark or Howard Dean were too easy to marginalize. Big John has the nuts to fight it out street by street - just wait until after Labor Day.
And sheesh, the way the Bushie yawls and bawls about Thanks for Clearing that up, does he know what an absolute moron he sounds like?
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Just asking.
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Moron, he can’t even tell the difference, that shows what a bonehead he is, thanks for confirming that moron. 
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Posted by: Anonymous at Saturday, August 28, 2004
My name is Betty Lou Grayson and I am concerned about Vice President Cheney's recent remarks concerning homosexuals. There has been a lot of reporting on the homosexuals who voted for President Bush in 2000. One story said over one million homosexuals voted for Bush. It looks like they are trying to wink to those voters while still trying to get my vote. I read in another story Bush is going to let homosexuals be in the military because they are so short handed.
I know everyone says he only did it because he has a homosexual daugher. But it seems odd to me for the Vice President to be doing this at this time since my understanding is his daughter has been a practicing homosexual for a long time.
A friend at my Church told me Bush has told the homosexual Republicans he will not push the amendment to protect the sanctity of marriage and
will not veto any legislation giving employment protection to homosexuals.
I found this on a Republican/Christian blog and I think it would be worth reposting it to any number of other like places.
I hope you're right about Big John. It's not hyperbole to say the future of this country is at stake. He's gotta him those fuckers back fast, often, and hard.
Ha, ha, don’t worry about the Izzie spy, plenny more where he came from and plenny more besides already there .
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Oh jeez, friar is an auto-script troll. He probably doens't even exist outside of some GOP fuckfaces hard drive.
Annya --- I couldn't agree more. So WWJD?
what would jihad do? if there was one missle to strike with, I would have a hard time choosing between Congressman Surfer Dude and Congressman Stiff Shirt (Dreier) -- the both should be tarred and feathered on the streets of Anaheim.
Jim--
Thanks for the plug for our project. For those of you not in NYC, we have been all over the local press in the past few weeks and the AP story on CNN.com today was big for us. It'll be hard to gauge given how vacant the city feels, but the momentum is peaking at the right time and the feedback we have gotten from fellow NY'ers has been great.
Thanks
How about this one?Or Or this one?Or maybe this one to top it all off?
I didnt think I had imagined hearing about it.I wouldnt have wanted to go off half cocked.Now,it may be that all these sources have an aganda and I am mistaken.If I am I will gladly take back the accusation.But as it stands here.I accuse the Mossad of espionage.
that prick Mellman now defending the Swiffers....but but but ....I thought you didn't have anything to do with it ?Sack of shit...
I am trying to think ahead and plan my drinking schedule for November second. I figure we will have some exit stuff going on by noon, and if Bush is leading I don't want to break too much stuff. Or should I just go out to my cousins place at the river with no TV or radio. Decisions, decisions.
Well, as far as journalists' skeletons, everyone knows that Joe Scarborough was a REPUBLICAN LEGISLATOR and he still has a show. Most people know a DEAD INTERN was found in HIS CAMPAIGN OFFICE, and still he has a show. He's clearly coming from a background of mental deficiency, and still he has a show...
Does the media care about what the media consists of? Despite all their meta-reporting ("Has the media overplayed ________?," "Go on teh front lines with journalists risking their lives!," etc.) I don't think most of them do care who they are or why they do what they do. Does the public care? Scarborough is just as highly rated as the other MSNBC shows, so apparently they don't care so much either. The public doesn't appear to know what to expect out of their journalists any more than the journalists know what to expect of themselves.
For a long-term solution we need to actively build the IDEA of a responsible media and what it would look like and do, providing one or two examples put forth as templates before we can enact substantial change. Until then it's just a short-term series of unrelated smear campaigns impugning the dignity and honor of a few rightwing hacks hoping they'll be fired eventually... Though I'm in favor of that as well.
I read in another story Bush is going to let homosexuals be in the military because they are so short handed.
Betty Lou Grayson
According to my sources, the Rethugs will let them in the military as long as they work the minefields.
And if Likudniks hadda send a gay lover to a Governor, why couldn’t they send one to Governor Perry? .
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At least we’da had some excitement next door, ha, ha, ha.
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"According to my sources, the Rethugs will let them in the military as long as they work the minefields." -syntallic
Sort of relatedly: Does anyone remember which country it was that offered to send minesweeping monkeys to help the US in Afghanistan and Iraq? Wasn't that strange!
That was me, smalfish, and I said a credible source. I don't think that site meets the criteria.
kiki |
Were Israelis Detained on Sept. 11 Spies?
Five Israelis were seen filming as jet liners ploughed into the Twin Towers on September 11
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smalfish, I like most of your posts and agree with much of what you say.
Are you suggesting that Israel was behind 9/11? Because that sounds like Saudi propaganda to me.
Joe Scarborough the mayor of looneyville --loves the chimpster so much they have matching flight suits
and Scaryman never served at all
No, anonymous, I think Bushie is winking at the Christian right, he is saying, I am not gonna say anything about gays and chicks right now, let them get bamboozled again, and then I will crush them if I win.
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He has already expressed the most anti-choice rhetoric in a decade and he made grown women dependent on their own fetuses, everybody knows he wants to over turn Roe v Wade.
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I'm confused. What military advantage do gays gain by being shorthanded? Also, is there a correlation between being shorthanded and being gay?
Are you suggesting that Israel was behind 9/11? Because that sounds like Saudi propaganda to me.
NO NO NO .I did not say Isreal was behind 9/11.There is no evidence of that and I never intended to say anything like that.
I was just making a case that Isreal is not as good a friend as most people like to think.And that story is just one of the proofs of that idea.
Why did he ask for an anti-gay amendment to be put into the US Constitution?
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Knight-Ridder is reporting that what broke yesterday as a story about one Israeli spy in the Pentagon is actually a much larger and more wide-ranging investigation:
An FBI probe into the handling of highly classified material by Pentagon civilians is broader than previously reported, and goes well beyond allegations that a single mid-level analyst gave a top-secret Iran policy document to Israel, three sources familiar with the investigation said Saturday.
I love the Scarborough story, but no one wants to get into it. Heck, the Rethugs are still talking about Vince Foster -- so I guess the right wing is correct about media double standards?
I actually like the nightly dose LOONEY BIN COUNTRY because it helps me gauge the debauchery of the Rethug cause. I even love Ann-ti-Christ Coulter and her touch of sedition.
Embrace them, because they are hopeless little dweebs who telegraph what the opposition is thinking and doing. It's how the Right did in the Left -- they watched the media to find our soft spots.
The more they speak the more they tell.
Retro vs. Metro: The Uncivil War affects every American, whether raising kids on an hourly wage with no health insurance, or dodging bullets on the streets of Baghdad, or ingesting dirty air and water, or wondering if our votes will count in the coming election. This conflict is as old as the 13 Colonies and as new as Swift Boat Veterans for Truth. Until now, the two sides have never been precisely defined --- or named. We call them Retro and Metro America. On this website you can learn about these two Americas and how the escalating war between them affects each of our lives. You also can order the groundbreaking bestseller: The Great Divide: Retro vs. Metro America.
My feelings about the Kerry campaign change almost every day. A few days back I thought he had turned the tide. Now, I'm not so sure. Why isn't he making an issue of Bush's "miscalculation" statement; why aren't they making more use out of this Barnes guy? These seem like perfect openings to me.
They wanted a link or wanted me to hush up about it.
Ah, yes, "whatreallyhappened. com," or as we call it, "WWW. blameitontheJews. com," the website that also "proves" that Vince Foster and Ron Brown were murdered.
That's something to "nanananaa" about, Smallfish, you fucking dick.
>I am hoping they pick Rohrbacher or David Drier.
"Bob Roberts was based on Dana. Jim Brandt who is Dana's first more then token opponent in years is one of the Dean Dozen.
A friend of mine is managing his campaign....Jim's. They need MORE volunteers. And cash. They are looking to raise name recognition because their polling is showing constituents hate Dana.
There were three people (including John Kerry) on the boat when Kerry sustained the "rose thorn scratch" injury that won him his first Purple Heart. Here's what Admiral William Schacte, one of the three, and the only available eyewitness other than Kerry, has to say about the nature of that wound:
Sometime during the early morning hours, I thought I detected some movement inland. At the time we were so close to land that we could hear water lapping on the shoreline. I fired a hand-held flare, and upon it bursting and illuminating the surrounding area, I thought I saw movement. I immediately opened fire with my M-60. It jammed after a brief burst. Lt. (jg) Kerry also opened fire with his M-16 on automatic, firing in the direction of my tracers. His weapon also jammed. As I was trying to clear my weapon, I heard the distinctive sound of the M-79 being fired and turned to see Lt. (jg) Kerry holding the M-79 from which he had just launched a round. We received no return fire of any kind nor were there any muzzle flashes from the beach. I directed the outboard motor operator to clear the area.
Upon returning to base, I informed my commanding officer, Lt. Cmdr. Grant Hibbard, of the events, informing him of the details of the operation and that we had received no enemy fire. I did not file an "after action" report, as one was only required when there was hostile fire. Soon thereafter, Lt. (jg) Kerry requested that he be put in for a Purple Heart as a result of a small piece of shrapnel removed from his arm that he attributed to the just-completed mission. I advised Lt. Cmdr. Hibbard that I could not support the request because there was no hostile fire. The shrapnel must have been a fragment from the M-79 that struck Lt. (jg) Kerry, because he had fired the M-79 too close to our boat. Lt. Cmdr. Hibbard denied Lt. (jg) Kerry's request. Lt. (jg) Kerry detached our division a few days later to be reassigned to another division. I departed Vietnam approximately three weeks later, and Lt. Cmdr. Hibbard followed shortly thereafter. It was not until years later that I was surprised to learn that Lt. (jg) Kerry had been awarded a Purple Heart for this night.
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In March of this year, I was contacted by one of my former swift boat colleagues concerning Douglas Brinkley's book about Senator Kerry, "Tour of Duty." I told him that I had not read it. He faxed me a copy of the pages relating to the action on the night of December 2-3, 1968. I was astonished by Senator Kerry's rendition of the facts of that night. Notably, Lt. (jg) Kerry had himself in charge of the operation, and I was not mentioned at all. He also claimed that he was wounded by hostile fire.
None of this is accurate. I know, because I was not only in the boat, but I was in command of the mission.
Dr. Louis Letson, who treated Kerry, and Grant Hibbard, Kerry's commanding officer, agree with Schacte's account. Kerry got his undeserved Purple Heart three months later, when e
That's something to "nanananaa" about, Smallfish, you fucking dick.
Am I buggin you?Dont mean ta BUG ya!
How on earth can the GOP run on national security when the FBI has to investigate the Pentagon because they are completely incompetent in dealing with secret documents for God's sake?!
I'll take Kerry's prostate over Bush's liver any day.
Why did he ask for an anti-gay amendment to be put into the US Constitution?
Because Rove did the math and figured out that if he didn't go nuclear right he didn't have enough votes. So he went after a hot spot with evangelicals to reach the rest of the neo-fascist base.
It's about energizing the base, and it's real pandering. The Rethugs cannot win unless they go ultra right, and this silliness is why you'll never get a true conservative in the office. Conservatives and libertarians are good; neo-cons like the preznut are fascists.
Dude, the Israelis were so totally behind 9/11!!!! I read it on the internet!
According to my sources, the Rethugs will let them in the military as long as they work the minefields.
Mort "Fox's 'liberal'" Kondrake once told me at a party pnce that his wife thought gays should be used as cannon fodder. He thought it was funny.
Syntallic, are you the other Democrat here in Orange County. I heard there was another one, but I could never prove it
HEY!
SOmeone was bitching at me yesterday because I said something about the Isrealies that were cheering when the towers collapsed.
They wanted a link or wanted me to hush up about it.
Nanananaa!
smalfish | Email | Homepage | 08.28.04 - 7:10 pm | #
smalfish, how many vans with dancing Israelis were there.
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sheesh weird story.
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MSNBC just made a flub-they mentioned three protesters arrested for trespassing at Bush events and then indicated "in all three cases, trespassing charges were dismissed", one of them was Brett Bursey, whose charges were not dismissed.
See:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jks...sc-
03cr309.html
Note to others- Write to MSNBC and complain about the inaccurate reporting.
The Torricelli option continues to beckon the Democrats the longer Kerry refuses to release all the records and put an end to all the speculation.
I didnt know Whatreallyhappened was a tinfoil site.I apologise for using it as a reference at first.
Please forgive.
This just in: President George W. Bush's first term has been among the most consequential and successful in modern times.
HAAAAAAAAAAAA ... schickelgruber
As in "The Producers":
Boy could that Fuhrer paint, one room, two coats, three days!
realphiladelphia, two of Kerry's crewmates dispute that Schachte was present that day. You are a liar.
The Torricelli option continues to beckon the Democrats the longer Kerry refuses to release all the records and put an end to all the speculation.
It does?
smalfish, just becoz Izzie spies on us doesn’t mean they aren’t a good friend.
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This shows that you may not be knowing the full range of noodgy and snoopy good friends, ha, ha, ha .
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annya .. yuppers a real democrat, in the center of the spectrum, but in LA right now. I was noticing that I was wearing brown shirts and red arms bands much too soon after moving from massachusetts.
Haven't had much chance to comment this week, but I went to a John Edwards town-hall rally in Golden, CO on Thursday, Women's Equality Day (commemorating passage of the 19th Amendment in 1920). I estimated about 1500 pro-Kerry people showed up around 3PM on a weekday, along with maybe 10 Bush demonstrators, about half of whom were children. His talk was mostly on issues of major concern to women, especially their healthcare plan. Biggest applause lines were for rolling back the Bush tax cuts for the wealthiest 2% (to pay for a lot of the programs), and for pushing for new solutions to end our national dependence on oil. He kept asking for undecided voters to ask him questions, but only one (a college student) identified herself as such. She asked how they were going to deal with the giant mess that Bush created in Iraq.
Oh, to get in? I got an email, printed out an invitation, exchanged it for a pass outside the venue, and walked in. There were Secret Service all over, but they were pretty much just eyeballing people (so far as I know anyway). Edwards did make a comment about how they don't require loyalty oaths and actually want people to ask them real questions.
Edwards is a great speaker, though I would have liked more specifics than are probably possible in this kind of format. One of his best responses was to a little girl who said the art program at her Denver public school had been cut last year and what could he do to help get it back. He said he would never have achieved all he has at 51 had he not had a great public school education, that they are dedicated to funding education, especially for the younger kids (no unfunded mandates- another huge cheer), and that often what we best remember from past cultures is their art. That just as some kids have athletic or intellectual talents that need to be nurtured, so too do the young artists.
Anyway, no real news in it, but a fun rally. I checked out the Denver Post's reporting on it- they left out most of the content other than the focus on healthcare, threw in that the US Chamber of Commerce plans to help fund ads blaming trial lawyers for everything, comments from the Lt. Governor that a Kerry presidency would "wreck" the great prescription drug benefits program that was passed, and this description of the event:
The proposal drew a standing ovation during Edwards' hour-long town-hall-style meeting at the Jefferson County Fairgrounds. Partisans, festooned in Democratic T-shirts, buttons and banners, hiked across a dirt parking lot littered with horse manure to hear Edwards speak in what usually serves as a livestock arena.
Yes, unbiased reporter Joey Bunch managed to work the value-neutral words 'partisans' and 'horse manure' into a brief report about Edwards' visit while ignoring almost everything he said or including even a single mention of Equality Day, which was a major theme of the event. BTW, my 'hike' was about 100' and completely manure-free.
Mort "Fox's 'liberal'" Kondrake once told me at a party pnce that his wife thought gays should be used as cannon fodder. He thought it was funny.
Did he think it was "ha-ha" funny? Or did he think it was "ha-ha-my-wife's-an-idiot" funny?
Okay, smalfish. I see a possible link between the two news articles and the pentagon spy story that broke yesterday.
But the website you posted first goes way beyond the idea of an Israeli spy network in the U.S. It creeps into the conspiracy theory realm by suggesting Israel allowed 9.11 to happen to provoke the U.S. to attack Iraq.
We should all be careful when we mix a little fact with a lot of conspiracy theory in case we lose sight of what is rational.
OK, so I am taking it that there were no white vans and no dancing Israelis, are we agreed on that. .
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They don't dispute it, they left it out in their original story. Kerry made so much stuff up, he forgets what is the truth. The fact for me is I don't really care,he did his honorable service and was heroic for going to Nam and getting shot at. It's what he did when he came back, and his zero record in the Senate....and oh another one:
Former Navy Secretary John Lehman has no idea where a Silver Star citation displayed on Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry's campaign Web site came from, he said Friday. The citation appears over Lehman's signature.
"It is a total mystery to me. I never saw it. I never signed it. I never approved it. And the additional language it contains was not written by me," he said.
Oh, I missed the post kiki refers to, were there white vans and dancing Israelis or not, please clarify .
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why i am i surprised, patriotdude?
anything out of kondrake's mouth resembles loose stools; he's about as gutter as freddie "never saw a corporate welfare scam i didn't patriotize" barnes
Here's a simple equation, regarding the importance of issues:
What happened in Vietnam 35 years ago < what is happening today in the Pentagon.
Fair enough?
We should all be careful when we mix a little fact with a lot of conspiracy theory in case we lose sight of what is rational.
Wholeheartedly agree.
I think Bush needs to be pushed into his true hard right position.
Is Dick Cheney using his daugher to
try to save those 1 million 'homosexual' votes --in a campaign where 500 votes makes a difference --perhaps he is.
This is Bush's choice --the fundies or the gay lesbian community --he cannot have both.
jojo -- he thought it was "ha, ha funny." He also thought ut was a good idea. There were four of us there. Him, Elenor Clift, me and another student--it was a hannukah party at a prof's house. Clift lit into him. Now, that was funny.
Where's the link,Real Philly, you trolling jackass?
speaking of patriots .. they are on tv tonite, and this is a good omen for Big John (if you're into omens -- one winner begets another -- the real patriots are from massachusetts!)
shameless self promotion!
It's not what happened on a swift boat in Vietnam 35 years ago.
It's the incompetency, stupid.
NTodd, You owe me twice on your (acceptable) blog whorage. Your link verbage raised my blood pressure to the point where I looked like a boiled dick, and the only reason I my eyes didn't squirt blood on the monitor when I read the link is that I wear glasses. Have mercy on an old man, please!
Okay, I may not be the sharpest tool in the shed. Are we implying that Israel was behind 9-11 attacks and tried to blame Palestine so they could attack. Or is the message that because they were phone tapping they knew what Al-Qaida was up to but did't warn anyone so they can blame the muslims so we would go to war with IraQ? Whats the story here?
I believe myself to be rational, but honestly I don't know what to believe anymore.
http://www.suntimes.com/output/e...nws-
lips28.html
Kerry citation a 'total mystery' to ex-Navy chief
August 28, 2004
BY THOMAS LIPSCOMB
Former Navy Secretary John Lehman has no idea where a Silver Star citation displayed on Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry's campaign Web site came from, he said Friday. The citation appears over Lehman's signature.
Charley doesn't do cocaine in Alabama. He shoots at sailors from the Mekong's shore.
A friend of mine is managing his campaign....Jim's. They need MORE volunteers. And cash. They are looking to raise name recognition because their polling is showing constituents hate Dana.
Nancy Richardson
You 4 real???? I just mailed you.
You are soooo right Jennifer, incompetent in a Swift Boat, incompetent in the Senate from Massachusetts, incompetent as a Presidential candidate---John Kerry.
But competent as a loser in November.
reallynotphilly quoting drudge --
there won't be a link because it is not true
How about that post upstream about a Yahoo item that says more than 50% believe that Bushies are behind the smear.
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What is wrong with the rest, ha, ha, ha .
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I clicked the link, but it was expired.
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Imagine that, more than half already ascribe it to the Bushie rat weasel smear machine.
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Our Leader took a shard of glass in his arm when he fell off his bar stool while boasting about what he'd do to Charlie if he came to Alabama. War is hell.
Good show on Dan Abrams MSNBC on spy
story..
Here's the link:
http://www.suntimes.com/output/e...nws-
lips28.html
sloboat to hell liars
have yet to produce one shred of documentary evidence and nothing has changed here
Meanwhile back in the real world
Bush calls his FUBAR in Iraq a little miscalculation --here's what people who work for him say
"We blatantly failed to get it right," said Larry Diamond, a senior fellow at Stanford University's Hoover Institution who served as an adviser to the occupation authority. "When you look at the record, it's impossible to escape the conclusion that we squandered an unprecedented opportunity."
June 19, 2004 Washington Post
Our Leader wanted to think like Charlie by getting in his mindset. Since heroin wasn't available he used cocaine as a field expedient substitute. He'd be ready for Charlie if he infiltrated Mobile's red light district.
Don' be shtupid, be a shmarty!
Come und join de Nazi party!
Totally OT, and only recommended if you don't feel miserable enough already:
Sixteen-Year Old Girl Hanged for Adultery"
Charlie never went AWOL. So Our Leader rubbed their noses in it by doing so, himself.
Our Leader took a shard of glass in his arm when he fell off his bar stool while boasting about what he'd do to Charlie if he came to Alabama. War is hell.
Gen JC Christian, patriot - 8:14 pm
No I was there, he broke a molar opening a beer bottle with his teeth. That was why he went back for the dental treatment. It was a service connected injury, but not enough blood for a purple heart.
Wrong realphilly. The two men with Kerry that day, John Runyon and Wm. Zaladonis, say they were the only ones with him.
Boston.com, Aug. 20:
"Myself, Pat Runyon, and John Kerry," says Zaladonis, the engineman on Kerry's first swift boat, "we were the only ones in the skimmer."
"There definitely was not a fourth," says Runyon. Though the two assume they took hostile fire, both men acknowledge they aren't completely certain. But they also firmly reject the claim that Kerry somehow wounded himself by using an M-79 grenade launcher.
realphilly is either a liar or doesn't know what he's talking about.
JeffCO, I hope you wrote to these people to complain about biased coverage:
Jim Bates -- Denver Post
Title: Deputy National Editor
Department: News
E-mail: jbates@denverpost.com
Phone: (303) 820-1010
Fax: (303) 820-1369
Address: 1560 Broadway, Denver, CO 80202-
Gary Clark -- Managing Editor - News
E-mail: gclark@denverpost.com
Phone: (303) 820-1351
Fax: (303) 820-1502
Address: 1560 Broadway, Denver, CO 80202
Lee Ann Colacioppo -- Denver Post Title: Metro Editor
Department: News
E-mail: lcolacioppo@denverpost.com
Phone: (303) 820-1010
Fax: (303) 820-1369
Address: 1560 Broadway, Denver, CO 80202-
Gregory Moore -- Denver Post Title: Editor
Department: Headquarters
E-mail: gmoore@denverpost.com
Phone: (303) 820-1010
Fax: (303) 820-1502
Address: 1560 Broadway, Denver, CO 80202
John Davidson -- Denver Post
Title: State Editor
Department: News
E-mail: jdavidson@denverpost.com
Phone: (303) 820-1829
Fax: (303) 820-1369
Address: 1560 Broadway, Denver, CO 80202-
Denver Post -- Letters to the Editor Phone: (303) 820-1331
Fax: (303) 820-1502
Address: 1560 Broadway Denver, CO 80202
Courtesy Congress.org Media Guide. Bookmark it. Use it. Enjoy it.
Hey RealPhilleee
Come on down to Newark De. I have a new Taylor Made driver I need to try out. You, having a head the size of a golf ball, would be perfect. I bet I could drive it, oh... say 320.
Can you say Beetlejuice?
AS always there is more to the story
the lie and then the truth.
Lehman denied a charge yesterday by chief Kerry foe John O'Neill of Swift Boat Veterans for Truth on Fox News earlier this month, who claimed that Kerry asked Lehman to rewrite the award.
"That's not what happened," Lehman told The News. "I did not rewrite the award. And John Kerry did not come to me."
Lehman, a GOP member of the 9/11 commission, said when Kerry lost the originals and requested replacements, Lehman was not involved in the "routine" task.
Kerry had nothing to do with the changed wording.
NY Daily News 8/27
I live in a pretty right wing area and everyone I speak with says the Swifties are liars trying to pull down Kerry.
the more the swifties play this thing the more they make the case for regime change
realphilly is either a liar or doesn't know what he's talking about.
I vote for number one.
Hey troll why is it your emporer doesnt know that his administration flip flopped on the clobal climate change policy?
What will you tell your children when they ask you why they have to pay off the massive debt your leader amassed?
Or will you lie to them like you lie to yourself?
Don't bother him, he is fellating himself.
Interesting thing about the article by Thomas Lipscomb, contributor to the American Spectator and Jewish World Review. It quotes Lehman as saying that he didn't sign the letter for Kerry's SILVER STAR. No, that letter was signed by Adm Zumwalt. He did, however, sign Kerry's BRONZE STAR, which, according to the above post, was a copy.
Got that in 30 seconds on Kerry's web site.
OT -
so the chimp and his stepford wife are on Larry King again tonight for the whole hour? WTF?!
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You creeps crack me up, quite a moving target you all are. Give you some proof, you divert, or scrteam...typical of your boy too. I'm not a liar, you're mixing apples and oranges here about Lehman. Quoting the Right wing rag NYP? what has this s-hole come too? Haaaaa, I live in a very Democratic area, and folks here distrust Kerry, don't like Bush either (typical Demos, they hate everything abd everyone excpet those trying to kill us), but they believe the Swift Boaters....tghink it will bite back, NO WAY. I can't wait for the Prez to eat Kerry alive in the debates, just like the freaking Genius ALGORE. Most people end up believing Bush and end up realizing he's genuine and decent, but end up knowing that Kerry is the prep school jackass you and your friends did not hang with. He's a cold hearted scheming poodleboy. We die as a nation if he wins.
realphilly wishes he could meet a real woman instead of spending all his time with a blowup doll.
Nothing more depressing than to realize that you have Rohrbacher as your representative. I hate Drier even more. The ultimate rat.
Nice job, RealPhilly.
You almost had me until you threw in that "genuine and decent" phrase which reveals a brainwashed demogogue to say the least, in my humble opinion.
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Back to the talking points -- it's genuine and decent to:
lie about Iraq
convince people that Saddam was part of 9/11
use 9/11 in an eerie Sophie's choice fashion in a campaign ad
outsource our country's intelligence and military
allow no bid contracts in Iraq
deny overtime rights
connect yourself to the Swifties
do i need to go any further or are you going to paddle us some more with your surburbian analysis?
Enjoy the latte ... because the froth is the Rethug machine jacking off on your rights
Love MM's letter to Bush!
It's Saturday. so here's a poem:
Love After Love by Derek Walcott
The time will come
When, with elation,
You will greet ypurself arriving
At your own door, in your own mirror,
And each will smile at the other's welcome,
And say, sit here, Eat.
You will love again the stranger who was your self.
Give wine. Give bread. Give back your heart
To itself, to the stranger who has loved you.
All your life, whom you ignored
For another, who knows you by heart
Take down the love letters from the bookshelf,
The photographs, the desperate notes.
Peel your image from the mirror.
Sit. Feast on your life.
Nice hysterical outburst, realphilly. It's sounds like you are the one doing all the screaming and diverting. You have given us no proof of anything. And why didn't you comment about Runyon and Zaladonis? Probably because it makes you and your buddy Schachte look like liars?
Recent poll show a majority of voters now believe Bush was behind the swift boat ads and they don't like it. Anneberg School did the survey so shouldn't be a problem for reallynotphilly --NYPost a right wing paper --I'm sure Rupert Murdoch will be shocked to hear that.
Some golden oldies from the crucufiction of Sandy Berger:
"I think it's gravely, gravely serious what he did, if he did it. It could be a national security crisis."
-Tom DeLay
"It's our lifeblood, those secrets,"
-Deputy Attorney General James Comey
"What information could be so embarrassing that a man with decades of experience in handling classified documents would risk being caught pilfering our nation's most sensitive secrets? Mr. Berger has a lot of explaining to do." - Denny Hastert
You see, the rethug machine uses suspension of disbelief in every single thing they do? It's right out of Tom Clancy novel from the outset.
State a bunch of factual stuff that no one can debate, and then slide in the fiction so that it looks like a factual account.
Here's the next one:
"Yes, the preznut did desert his post in the Air National Guard, but he did his duty protecting Houston from the Viet Cong. But Mr. Kerry was never hit by a bullet, he was hit by shrapnel. And what's the big deal about a bunch of metal shards tearing into his flesh? But a real man would have been hit by a bullet. With all due respect to Senator Kerry, over 58,000 brave Americans gave their lives in Vietnam -- but HE didn't. He only got WOUNDED! What does he have to say for himself??? And cowards like Clinton felt it was more important to be consistent (he opposed the war, thus he refused to go) instead of the preznut who used his political connections to work on a campaign, suffering numerous papercuts in the name of freedom."
I had to throw in Clinton -- the rethugs just can't resist it.
"I can't wait for the Prez to eat Kerry alive in the debates"
Yep. Even Kerry knows this. George W Bush has never lost a debate. I have very high expectations for the President in the debates. I'm sure he will be knowledgeable, resolute yet humble, down to earth and coherent.
True, the preznut has never lost a debate as the challenger.
I guess we'll have to see what happens when he has a record to defend; and I don't think Kerry will make the same stupid mistakes that Gore made.
It will be high theater to be sure.
Novak is a bottom feeder for the Rethugs and he couldn't find a story unless someone was shaking the tree for him.
Then again .. isn't he a gatekeeper for the neo-cons?
Activists need to do a job on him and xray his life and lifestyle -- just like he does to his so-called "adversaries"
yes... lets xray that < a href="http://www.mind.net/basile/DeficitDubya92.html">TURD
Nick, you must be kidding right?
"I can't wait for the Prez to eat Kerry alive in the debates"
Do they test this bait before they throw it out here.
Talk about amateurs.
Bush has had a great week
He gave a great big Cheney to
Max Cleland, Viet Nam war veterans
and The International Olympic Committee.
Yes he's a uniter.
Metadude ... freakin nice!
Robert Novak
Love the morphing -- it's like watching Hobbits run for preznut!
When Nick says Bush never lost a debate --he is quoting Kerry on the Daily Show. And since the media does the spinjudging --we can count on another Bush win this time.
Baby Huey Matthews has already led the charge with --will Kerry be more or less arrogant than Bush.
I know this isn't a good way to feel
but frankly if Chris Matthews dropped dead --I would be pleased.
edit
proper Baby Huey quote
Will Kerry be more or less arrogant than Gore
This is classic - Lawn Bigots - for our friend Zell Miller
Mitt Romney did too, are his lips moving. So what? Are the fools who shill for John effin Kerry gods or something? Why won't the Kerry shills accept the letters others are trying to give them?
"However, the Democratic group had its event crashed by another group of veterans upset with Kerry's attendance record in Congress. They held signs reading "Where is John (Waldo) Kerry?" and "Kerry No Show," and they expressed outrage at Kerry's high absence rate in Congress this year. The group, calling itself Veterans for Working Senators, echoed a message put forward by the Republican Party."
http://www.boston.com/news/local...at_state_house/
Indeed Dr. King,.....the truth shall set you free.
Kerry is running scared; Senate attendance, John effin Kerry absent......Cambodia, Proven liar...first purple heart; unknown for sure at this time....issues, all I have seen him do is bash Bush (When is John effin Kerry going to give us his plan, in detail, for America?)
Morons.
Sort of relatedly: Does anyone remember which country it was that offered to send minesweeping monkeys to help the US in Afghanistan and Iraq? Wasn't that strange!
Jim Rasmussen | Email | Homepage | 08.28.04 - 7:46 pm | # ...........................Morocco wanted to send smarter monkeys to the white house.
I'm with Nick- Bush is an excellent debater. In fact, I would expect him to demolish Kerry with his polished elocutions and irrefutible logic. Anything less than a KO should be seen as a miserable failure. I'm also expecting he should get a 14 point bounce out of the convention. Anything less- failure. If he's not up to 60% or so after the debates, I'll have to go with the media calling his performance a disaster. I mean, I have to assume that's what they'll do, right?
Ntodd
I just followed your link. That is freaking weird.
At least Kerry hasn't given any secrets to Israel or Iran.
And attacking his attendance record is a bit hypocritical, considering Bush has taken more vacations than any president in modern history.
Moron.
NTodd, You owe me twice on your (acceptable) blog whorage. Your link verbage raised my blood pressure to the point where I looked like a boiled dick, and the only reason I my eyes didn't squirt blood on the monitor when I read the link is that I wear glasses. Have mercy on an old man, please!
My humblest apologies for almost killing you. That was certainly not my intent. I just wanted the traffic!
Ntodd
I just followed your link. That is freaking weird.
As somebody observed over at dKos where I also whored the link, it's really nice to know that BushCo would never use government resources for political/campaign purposes...
Brandon, you ignorant slut. John effin Kerry has just sold out the POW's/MIA's, and taken "election donations" from the Chinese.
Fuckwit.
George "Take a Vacation for a month after being warned Osama bin Laden would attack inside US" Bush wants to make an issue of Kerry's attendance? In a Congress that is controlled by hateful Republicans like DeLay who won't let Democrats have conference rooms? Go back to your Oxycontin, fool.
Ronald Reagan--the Great Communicator.
George W. Bush--the Great Miscalculator.
BULLETIN: Matt Sludge thinks you're an idiot.
He cites the recent Time magazine poll, trumpeting the fact that "almost 1 in 3 voters (35%) say there’s "some truth" to the accusations." Of course, the converse of that statement is "Two-thirds believe it to be complete and utter bullshit."
"some truth" my ass...
Hey, Usama, you are a real high-minded fellow, aren't you? Why don't you go back to the freerepublic reservation where you came from?
And that Chinese money--cite please?
So, Clark finally spoke like a general today, asked why Bush failed to fight for his country and called him a coward.
Morons always get what's coming to them.
Brandon, you ignorant slut. John effin Kerry has just sold out the POW's/MIA's, and taken "election donations" from the Chinese.
Usamabinlazy
You may not want to debate policy on China unless you're informed. Neil Bush is taking $2 million from the chinese lobby and even Pat Buchanon is beating the heck out of the preznut over his policy there.
Shrub is taking more from china than kerry has even considered
sloliars must be out of favor --now we are back to the phony attendance issue
Bush more vacation than any other president --and he isn't there when he is in town.
Usamabinlazy is the fuckwad in this debate -- boing!
Try Usamabinsmokin cuz your high!
When are Dems going to stop whining about the media and do something about it?
China documents, Fuckwit. Enjoy!
http://www.judicialwatch.org/3800.shtml
Soon, the truth shall shine its light on this issue as well.
"So, Clark finally spoke like a general today, asked why Bush failed to fight for his country and called him a coward.
Morons always get what's coming to them."
Melvin Goodwin, USA | Email | Homepage | 08.28.04 - 9:30 pm | #
Melvin, linky please?
quote liars to prove a point
go back to feeper town when you have a document that didn't come out Karl Rove's ass
judicialwatch from 1998? Wow .. that's a real expose usama.
did you also know that Richard Nixon is dead too?
It would be nice to have some truth
click the homepage link to learn what Bush says versus what Bush does
I love veterans he says
while visiting a VA hospital
and on the same day cutting their funding.
Bush a liar's liar
he's kind of like Scott Peterson
he would like to his own Mother
edit
He's kind of like Scott Peterson
he would LIE to his own Mother
note the troll's name:
Usamabinlazy, funny, huh? binlazy
so, he's saying bin laden is just another shiftless colored person.
oops, sometimes the racism sneaks out, they just can't hide it.
Oh, judicial watch, that's a really reputable organization isn't it? That just shows you are a conspiratorial right-wing nutcase.
The Next Bush lie
With his decorated combat record in question, Kerry said, "I'm in a fighting mood," and a campaign ally chided Bush for serving stateside in the Texas Air National Guard while others fought in Vietnam.
In an interview, Bush told NBC's "Today" that Kerry "going to Vietnam was more heroic than my flying fighter jets. He was in harm's way and I wasn't. On the other hand, I served my country. Had my unit been called up, I would have gone."
How could he have gone since he wasn't certified to fly
Why is it that right-wingers like to infiltrate liberal blogs? Doesn't this reaveal a rather creepy and obsessive nature on their part? Do liberals ever do this on conservative blogs?
The preznut would have gone if he was called? I think he did go -- he was protecting Texas and Alabama from the Viet Cong.
You can't imagine all the painful papercuts he got stuffing envelopes in the campaign office.
Hare Krishna Moonlanding Debunkers For Truth
Quick -- somebody call CNN, MSNBC, and Fox News! I've got a hardcore group of people -- thousands, in fact, located all around the world -- who will swear the whole NASA moonlanding program is and always was an outright hoax; that we never went there.
Plus -- unlike the Swiftboat folks -- they're not just blowing smoke up your ass; they've got photographic proof -- forensic evidence! -- to back up their claims.
What's more, they're "pious, religious folk" -- so the cable news shows can angle for inroads into reaching those potential viewers . . .
. . . C'mon, now: Wolf, Sean, Chris, Ken, Aaron -- let's get these folks booked on your shows, and let's hear some honest skepticism about "the official record" for a few weeks, eh?
Ok. I'm seriously considering leaving the country. I just can't talke it any more, the creeping more and more to the right, the constant erosion of civil liberties,the war mentality.
I do feel like it's wrong and unfair to leave, but I'm hoping to go else where and make ammends, to atone in some small way for the sins & failings of the US government.
I have dual citizenship with another E.U. nation, but I'm thinkning of joining a service program and working overseas. Does any one have any idea of any non-sectarian service programs that will take families as volunteers?
How many others are contemplating bagging the US altogether. Does anyone else feel guilty about the idea?
And I heard from reputable sources who were there that Ashcroft says the Holocaust never happened.
He was spotted at a neo-nazi event in Kirkwood, MI in the 1950s and was photographed putting a white hood over his head next to burning cross.
notice "the I flew fighter jets"
there has been a lot on freeper sites
about how much more dangerous figher jets are...wellyeah if he flew one
he was going door to door for some Republican candidate --this has got to stop
Can you imagine what this country will be like if Bush doesn't have a re-elction to worry about? No checks. No balances. Pray for us. Pray for US.
Pray yes, but remember: "Faith without works is dead". (the words of St. Paul)
I never gave anybody hell! I just told the truth and they thought it was hell. (the words of Harry Truman)
GET THE TRUTH OUT, IT WILL PREVAIL.
Bush's days are few!!! LET'S DO IT !!
Speechless.. bye bye.. I hear Alec Baldwin has some digs that he promised to flee to...but never did. I'd feel guilty if I didn't prod you to leave. I'd suggest France. Fess up that you hate America, you'll fit right i.. until the terrorist horde overwhelms them, and you're thrown to the lions as an American.
Actually, considering Bush's history in the Guard coupled with his drinking (at a minimum), it makes me shudder to think he probably was over my house from time to time in an old century series jet.
How many others are contemplating bagging the US altogether. Does anyone else feel guilty about the idea?
Speechless
I have the opportunity to go dual citizen as well, but I can tell you from experience that things overseas are no better.
Much too much right wing in the world, and there's no escaping it unless you go to a Third World zone (and then you risk the coup d'etat from the place you left, so to speak) -- aka, Margaret Thatcher's son
How many others are contemplating bagging the US altogether. Does anyone else feel guilty about the idea?
Yes, I do. If there are four more years given to this dangerous madman and his evil group, I will leave.
Dr. Spinnaker is a scientist and can work anywhere in the world. I speak plenty of languages (that's how you know I'm must not be a "patriot").
Both of my parent have died in the last 10 months so taking care of them is no longer and issue.
Baby boy spinnaker is three years old and loves anything new, very adaptable.
I am VERY seriously considering it as you can tell. Actually, I think you have made me realize just how seriously I have considered it already to have made such a list.
RealPhilly obviously lives in an Alabama trailer park -- most people I know in Philly actually have a brain and have been educated.
You can tell, because an ignorant swine always goes to the "french" thing when they run out of ideas.
yeah, as I recall the joke goes like this:
"I'd leave America in a heartbeat..."
"but I'm too scared of U.S. foreign policy"
First thing I do if Bush steals it again, scream my head off and cry my eyes out at the same time.
Next thing I do, look up my good friend who's an ex-infantry rifleman and have him teach me the ins and outs of shooting.
Then, I go home and wait for the first fucker who tries to "relocate" me.
righteous, justathought
and the uninformed wonder why the rest of the world is filled with disgust when they hear our country mentioned?
the most centered member of the current administration -- Colin Powell -- can't even go to freakin Greece for the close of the Olympics?!?!?! Does anyone catch the significance of that event?
RealPhiladelphia,
I hear the snideness in your voice, but I've got to say I love and hate America. I spent a number of years over seas and found that there was NO freedom of speech anywhere as great as here in the US. It's more a cultural thing that we feel empowered to speak our minds. I LOVE that.
At the same time. I find that there is so little room for conversation anymore. My experience is that a lot of places in the world are opening up to the possiblity of speaking honestly to each other, while here people seem to use freedom of speech with little civility, little regard for each other's humanity. That hurts.
But, to get to the implicit question in your remark--I want to leave because it feels like this has become a nation which condones bullying. Look at the tools we could be using to engage in dialogue round the world. We seem to have a knee-jerk desire to use force. But more than that, American consciousness itself is largely colonized by aggressive capitalist shills. I haven't sipped too much of the mainstream media Kool-aide, and as a result I sense that people like yourself would lynch me if you could... Am I wrong?
W & Laura on Larry King is a repeat.
Earlier on CNN, the usually reliable voice of reason Al Hunt made it sound like Kerry had basically lost the race this month - this from poll results showing things tied. He made no sense at all - if he had wanted to say Kerry should be up by 10 points now, so it's been disappointing, fine, but he gave no basis for his pessimism.
Zero word (on Capital Gang) on the FBI/spy case, but then, since Novak is a panelist, not surprised they couldn't.
How many others are contemplating bagging the US altogether.
No knock on you, but eff that. I feel the liberties that we used to take for granted are my birthright, ones my father nearly got cut in half by German artillery shrapnel to guarantee. I'll take a fascist bullet in the face or rot away in some Ashcroftian hellhole before these jackbooted tinhorns kick me out of my country. If I am going to go out, I'm going to jam a chainsaw up RealPhilly's ass, and every one of his pinhead cronies, before I do.
brandon, I'm not infiltrating. You left the front door open. Frankly, it all amazes me, I know many Democrats, most are ill-informed and only get their news from the broadcast and print media, (which we KNOW is biased left on the whole). I take a look at everything, check facts (hey, sometimes you guys are right) and choose. I choose not to vote fro Kerry. I could vote for Lieberman, perhaps Gephardt. Clinton's politics (besides his lies and basic aloofness to the rising terrorist threat) were not so bad.
I sniff around here some, and have for a long time, without posting. Time for me to stop again. (You'll all be glad and curse me out,and sully my heritage, etc....that kind of thing does NOT happen on rightwing sites generally, except by the lefties that swing by. That just confirms what I have learned through the years, "right wing" folks are generally nicer. Really. My leftist friends are hard case basty dfay to day, in stores and to waitreeses, to their employees...Freak out on me ...it's what I expect here, not reasoned discussion.
Please go to DemocraticUnderground.com and scroll down to picture of Bush in uniform and following blog. Walt Starr did a fabulous job of showing and proving Bush is wearing medals he did NOT earn. Can't believe he has gotten away with it so long. Spread the word and maybe national media will pick it up. It would be great to have him on the defensive for the convention.
Speechless,....lynch you? Please. Stay, talk, reason, but do not automatically assume I'm a jackbooted thug because I support George Bush. I honestly believe that National Security / the possibility that we could be nuked soon or worse is a reality. I do not believe Kerry is up to the task. I think there is to much rancor on both sides.
Real Philly,
if you think right-wingers are so all fired sweet, go over to Freep sometime and post something to the effect that the boy-king is not all he's cracked up to be.
see how long it takes til' they ban you.
or go post something like that at little green footballs, see how polite they are.
phooey
BlakNo1: Next thing I do, look up my good friend who's an ex-infantry rifleman and have him teach me the ins and outs of shooting.
If you haven't already, you should exercise your Second Amendment rights, and buy some legal firearms, and ammo -- NOW. Not in November. NOW. Start your training ASAP.
.
BGK,
You're pretty spunky.
Earlier on CNN, the usually reliable voice of reason Al Hunt made it sound like Kerry had basically lost the race this month
I am actually extremely optimistic -- while Kerry hasn't closed the deal yet, neither has the preznut (if you look at the polls) which is very disturbing for an incumbent.
Read into the Eleanor Clift article, and I know for a fact that the Rethugs are truly nervous (the preznut hit the trail well in advance of a normal incumbent) and they shot their load too soon on the Swift Boat story.
I also know that the preznut is going to get a ration of last minute attacks on his doorstep because the Dems are smarter this time around. He can't run on the economy and the numbers are getting more disasterous for Shrub boy, indicating another slow down already. If we don't get some relief on trade policy the far east and the eu is gonna eat our lunch.
juatathought...OK, perhaps..I've been banned here. Atrios or minion does not like my anti-Huffelism. I stay off the nut case sites on both sides..
I heard that John O'Neill has been so motivated to get John Kerry because he is guilty that he raped an 11 year old girl and then blew her head off.
Has anyone else heard this?
If you are banned why are you still here
Real Philly,
You say: . I honestly believe that National Security / the possibility that we could be nuked soon or worse is a reality. I do not believe Kerry is up to the task.
What makes you think Kerry isn't up to the task? This mystifies me. He was the one who went to war, and looked death in the face.
I don't get it. It's seems so clear that Bush has never lifted a finger to help anyone but himself....
Why isn't Kerry a far more obvious choice to save us from the threat you foresee.
(By the way, it seems to me that considering the constant projection onto the "enemy" of our own worst intentions, it's more likely that the US would be the aggressor in a nuclear attack.)
realphilly--We are ill-informed because, you claim, we get most of our news from the broadcast and news media? Where do you get your news from? Drudge, NewsMax and WorldNetDaily?
JP- I know, I know.... 
I heard that John O'Neill has been so motivated to get John Kerry because he is guilty that he raped an 11 year old girl and then blew her head off.
Has anyone else heard this?
You're pretty spunky.
No, I've just eaten my last ration of crap. I was talking with my 82-year-old father today about the Israeli spy shennanigans. This is a man I've seen in tears maybe five times in my 30-plus years. When I asked him if he ever thought he would see America turn into a banana republic in his lifetime, he choked up and had to leave the room. I cannot express how angry having to see that made me. These goons are pissing on the work of everyone that made this country what it is, or at least kept alive the promise of what it could be, and they're having a good laugh doing it.
Real Philly:
Just a quick side question: if there are hordes of terrorists in France, don't you think we should have a better realtionship with France in order to ensure maximum access to information.
If France is such a stronghold for terrorism, shouldn't we be focused on routing them out. How will our continued hostility towards Francce serve our own security needs?
Or Germany, or Russia, for that matter. Doesn't it seem that with the rising tide of Muslim extremism and anti-Semetism in these three countries, our National security would demand a better working relationship?
If for no other reason then the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
And wouldn't in fact, the theoretical move of good fellow Speechless to France to show the kind American face of freedom, be in fact, a very essence of patriotism?
A personal statement of extending the hand of friendship to France for the greater good of solving our mutual pesky problem of the use of terrorism by extremists, if you will.
I get banned, I get back in, who knows? Atrios is nice. 4 months in Vietnam dosn't convince me, lots of freinds who did 2 tours in Vietnam, I wouldn't trust them to watch my cat. Bush has 3 years as CIC, doing the right thing (in my eyes..freak out on me I expect)to take it to them before they bring it to us. The kind of nuke I'm talking about is the portable variety,I don't expect Russia to drop one on us. Kerry has had 19 yeras in the Senate to prove his national Security cahones...hefell short bigtime and that is on the record he cannot deny. Forget about Vietnam, he went, he deserves hero recognition, but He kept bringing it up through the years as a centerpice of his campaihns. Now that he is challenged by MANY other veterans, he wants it to stop, or blames it on Bush.
Europe has been dealing with arab terrorists since the 1960's. They are so much ahead of us, and when I lived there in the 1980's it looked and felt like NY does today with the RNC in town.
So when the preznut distanced himself from europe -- okay, everybody but tony blair - he isolated us as the enemy.
Let's face it: even the Brits are rethinking their association with us. So when they go the other way, we are really in trouble
Kiki its true. Dateline or 20/20 had a story about it quite a while ago. A woman in an apartment building reported them to the police. The were investigated and the individuals all fled to Israel. They were associated/employed with a moving company that investigators think was a front for an Israeli espionage ring.
Several witnesses in the apartment building were interviewed for the story. ALl thought they must be Arabs. Turned out they were Israelis.
An excuse was made that the celebrations were made because it would throw the US into fighting the same enemy as Israel and this was good for Israel.
Genosail
I hope you don't mind me horning in on your question to Real Philly,
You asked: if there are hordes of terrorists in France, don't you think we should have a better realtionship with France in order to ensure maximum access to information.
Isn't this part of the frustration. There are all these levels to these issues. I can't help but sense that Real Philly is put off by
France because of some sense of cultural elitism-- something that's in his head, and in the head of a lot of people in the US. But rather than being forthright and attemoting to address their fears of their own culture being inferior to French (or European) culture, they attack it on "moral" grounds.
I used to believe you should never respond to the subtext of racist and biggotted arguments, but like Andrew Marvel recognizing that we have not "world enough and time..." in recent years I've tried to unmask the subtext as I go along. I find though this makes people like Real Philly really really mad.
Kiki the Homepage link has the URL for ABC news story.
too tired for html and tiny URL
My post above was purely from memory so if the article conflicts somewhat from what I wrote be kind.
There's another lie .. Kerry did two tours in Vietnam -- one on a large ship and then he volunteered for another four month tour in a swift boat.
He blames the crap on the preznut because rove and his slime bags have a history of doing this stuff and now people are leaving the preznut's campaign staff.
You seeing it clearer now? How in the heck can you support this retard boy king when he forces a loyalty oath in a country that is built on protest, revolution, debate and free speech?
It's the foundation of the american thing for chrissakes. And we have never gone thru a period of oppression in our lifetimes like the one we are dealing with now. Terror from overseas, economic terror on families, a non-representative government that is re-allocating wealth.
Any way you cut it -- Kerry is the choice, because the next 20 years are at stake
brandon, I look at those sites, just like you. I also hit all the left sites, I read it all. It percolates and filters down. Personal observations locally have generally written my political stance. I live in Philly, I see what corrupt Democratic thugs have done to a beautiful town.
If democrats are corrupt, at least the rethugs are hypocrites.
Talk about flip floppers:
pro-life but want the death penalty
family values but health care isn't a right
no child left behind but more children in poverty than 40 years
I can go on with more.
BGK, My dad's also a WWII vet. Seeing his anger and frustration grow with GW Bush, has really made me appreciate the sense that he fought in WWII for SOMETHING IMPORTANT, something Bush & the neocons are trashing.
He's a tireless letter writer. These days we e-mail each other articles on what's going on. You should see the scorcher he just sent to the Phila. Inquirer re the Swift Boat Idiots.
Not at all Speechless.
The sub text is hardly sub anymore, is it? That is a result of a leader who see the world as checkers instead of chess.
I believe I am still waiting for a well-reasoned, fact-based answer. Again, I would ask for emphasis on the fact-based request part of the answer. I think I can deduce your opinion for myself.
Speechless, you are more than welcome to wait with me.
Real philly -
Yeah, CNN, all liberal, all the time
Today - political analyst says Bush is up partly because no bad news out of Iraq in the last month
and Miles O'Brien a couple days ago called Jim Rassman the man who may have been pulled back into the swift boat by Kerry (when NO ONE is disputing that he pulled him in)
Go with that idea, if you want. Hope you like the new unAmerica you get if Bush is elected
Speechless, you are putting words in my mouth. Nothing racist or bigotted in my my ind about France. For me it's all about them hating us forever, except when we pull their arses out of a World War. It's agreat place to go to if you hate America, that's my thought...you'd fit right in. And somehow I think they're culturally elite? Please, I could care less. And I won't get really really mad no matter what you say. However,that might go for a few other here that want to shove a chainsaw up my butt, etc...
I will check back in the morning for the well-reasoned and thoughtful answer.
If it's ready by then...
Real Philadelphia:
Sorry to bother you with pesky facts, but would you include in the forever part of the French hating us the part where they provided strategic and critical military support in the Revolutionary War?
hecate,, beautiful poem,, thanks
The French?
You mean those allies of ours who were convinced there were not WMDs in Iraq (and they were right) and told us as friends we should not have invaded? If we had followed their advice, 1000 soldiers would be alive, we would have saved $200 billion, not made our fight against terrorism harder.
Yeah, damn the French! How dare they be right.
genoasail, i suspect we'll be waiting for the historians to get that factual answer...still I'd like to see the effort made. That's what really helps, when opposing parties get their sense of the "facts" on the table.
And Real Philly as for that chainsaww up your...(I just can't bring myself to write it)_...it would be so messy and unpleasant for an effet francophile like me...
By the way, don't count on seeing me in La Belle France, I'm thinking more of India or somewhere in Africa...
shove a chainsaw up my butt
You know, there are private chatrooms for this sort of thing...
The French?
You mean those allies of ours who were convinced there were not WMDs in Iraq (and they were right) and told us as friends we should not have invaded? If we had followed their advice, 1000 soldiers would be alive, we would have saved $200 billion, not made our fight against terrorism harder.
Yeah, damn the French! How dare they be right.
Again, Real Philadelphia, I hate to bother you with facts, but I believe that Speechless went to some lengths to state of love of America, in fact, somparing it to overseas.
I believe if you will reread the post you will see that Speechless was considering leaving because of the tone of the government, which I believe you yourself complained about in a previous post, citing too much "rancor on both sides".
Perhaps you could clear this question up for me; if both you and Speechless are dissatisfied by the tone of government does that make you both love America, or both hate America?
Still waiting...
there were no WMDs in Iraq -- even Stevie Wonder could see that
And Saddam knew that the real war in Iraq started as soon as our troops reached Baghdad and claimed victory.
I am still waiting for the flowers of iraqi appreciation -- maybe they'll save them for Allah for us.
Speechless:
I really liked the Ethiopia and the Ethiopian people are the nicest people I've ever met in the world.
Real Philadelphia: I'll try you back in a couple of dys when you've had time to crack a book or two.
I just caught Chris Mathews on Bill Mahr's show and he:
A. Bad mouthed W's foreign policy.
B. Bad mouthed W's domestic policy.
What's up?
Genosail,
Thanks for your Ethiopia suggestion. Do you know if the Irish Service Corp is working there? (I suspect they are) Even though I'm religious, my spuse isn't, so I need to find a non-sectarian service organization. Anyone with any ideas, I'd appreciate it. But, like Genosail, I'm off to bed.
Thanks to all. Goodnight!
Genosail, I'll post it sometime in the next month or so, so keep checking back all day and night long until then. Oh, that's right, you're all here full-time anyway.
The well-reasoned and thoughtful answer for the US is the re-election of George Bush.
Matthews knows where his bread is buttered and it's on the outside looking in; he's a life long democrat just trying to survive this neo con period until his people come back in power.
Whoa - leave this thread for a while and come back to find one of my fellow Philadelphians being threatened with a Buttocks Chainsaw Massacre. Gruesome indeed.
The well-reasoned and thoughtful answer for the US is the re-election of George Bush.
oh, the irony.
Genosail, I sleep too, so on a serious note and to leave this on a better note, I do love America, just as Speechless, and my thought that there is rancor on both sides would probably be shared by you. It's more like a family situation, perhaps a wayward son...despite whatever he might have done, he's still family, no matter what. When folks declare that they're fed up with the US and want to leave, it's like a family not helping that son, no matter what.
How does that help to leave the US? Leave to do missionary or service work, fine, I admire that.
OH YES, CHRIS MATTHEWS....
such an idiot.
this is the progressives' friend?
SEE TODAY'S DAILY HOWLER.
JUST ANOTHER FRATBOY. I LIKEN HIM TO THE HITCHENS WITH A TV SHOW.
Actually, syntallic, Matthews was much worse when Clinton was in power. His show during the late 90's was non-stop Clinton bashing.
Matthews may say Bush is fubar but he trashs Kerry on a personal basis every change he gets --he has used the French reference, called him lurch, called him an elistist and said he has no friends and is too aloof and wouldn't you rather have a drink with George Bush.
He is an idiot
and although I know I will got to hell for this. It wouldn't bother me in the least if he dropped dead.
Real Philadelphia:
Personal attack followed by personal seal of approval option.
Still waiting for the thoughtful well-reasoned response to terrorism question.
As far as the America as family analogy, well, it may be time for our wayward son to have some tough love or at the very least, a group intervention.
I'd say the intervention will begin about 7 AM on November 2nd, followed by some tough love starting around November 3rd.
But I wouldn't want to keep you from your rest as I'm sure you need it to continue to present thoughtful, fact-based arguments here and thoughout the world at large, bettering us all, one at a time.
Good night.
"I need to find a non-sectarian service organization. Anyone with any ideas, I'd appreciate it."
Try www.idealist.org, they've got opportunities all over the world, paid, unpaid, and internships.
Too bad Tip O'Neill didn't bash enough sense into Matthews head. I personally think Matthews sizes up his audience before deciding who to bash.
If it's en vogue to bash the preznut he'll do that; if kerry is on the ropes, he'll bash him for a change.
I actually can't think of an elected official he hasn't bashed? He loves attacking Clinton cuz it keeps his right wing bosses happy and keeps him employed.
A very simple question, I think for the lurking Republicans:
If ya'll care so much about security and about this country - there's the concern about the mole story? I could name a lot of other concerns, but we can start here.
Why are you still howling about 33 year old faded memories? Will 3000 more people have to die before you remember the world does not revolve around the "#1 concern - piss off the liberals" banner?
Come on, Real Philly or somebody. Have at it.
Matthews fawns over Reeps and never has a balanced panel and has on screamers like Laura Ingram and lets her scream. Then Baby Huey will have someone like Pete Stark and then ignore everything Stark told him
He's a rightwing tool. And he thinks he and George Bush are just too good old boy former drunks. And I agree Matthews delivers the same quality as George Bush -scum
Truth, Lips Moving.
another baby boomer sell out
Well, folks - the sad fact is - Matthews is still one of the freaking few who wakes up and stops acting like people wearing underwear on their heads is the norm, if you get my drift. That's what we're stuck with in the media now.
So panders to the right much of the time - still he's one of the few who getas fed up once in a very blue moon. I still want to crack him upside the head about half the time but I'm talking reality. He's weirder than hell. He allows a lot of people to say most anything about Kerry - then he rips one or two of the RWers to bits and laments how the smear on Kerry hasn't been fair.
We need a nation-sized dose of therapy. The world really is on its ear.
Warren Terra...
It quotes Lehman as saying that he didn't sign the letter for Kerry's SILVER STAR. No, that letter was signed by Adm Zumwalt.
Warren, your research on the Kerry website may have led to an incorrect conclusion. Some further research on the web reveals that Lehman's signature appears on the 3rd version of Kerry's Silver Star citation. The first was signed by Adm. Zumwalt, the second version with added text was signed by Adm John Hyland, and the third version, which adds additional text and changes some of the past text, shows John Lehman's signature.
In all fairness to your research, the Lehman Silver Star citiation copy was on the Kerry website 2 weeks ago, as I printed off a copy, but may have been removed since then. I'm heading there next to doublecheck. If you want to see a copy I can forward some links to the Lehman version.
hey ya'll.
coming at you dead up from new york, my home town born and raised, and now karl rove's ground zero.
it never ceases to amaze me that bush uses the war on terror and his status as 'war' preznit as a selling point, when anyone interested in being honest can clearly see that he has done a terrible job on the war on terror and on homeland security.
i don't think it is necissary to go into the details of why this is so here, but i wonder why the kerry campaign, or moveon, or the dnc, has not discussed this in more explicit ways.
frankly, i don't care about the deficit. 9/11 scared the shit out of me-- not enough so that i will be irrational about how i think about the solutions to the threats- but enough so that if i really thought that bush was doing a bang up job, i might put aside all his other lunacy...
well, i have galaxy 500 on the radio, friends in the other room, and one more beer which i should grab before its gone.
big ups to atrios and crew. keep it up. as for me, i am not buying any cds, any t shirts, any anything until this election is done with -- my money is going to the kerry campaign. peace out, and a big fuck you to the repug jerks who i hope not to run into when i take the subway. don;t ask me for directions -- i'll send you to newark.
ps i was pleased to see a henning mankell novel on atrios' favorite list. thats some good shit. after the election, a-dog, i'll get it for you.
Warren Terra...
My apologies to your research. You are right. The Silver Star citation signed by John Lehman has been removed from the johnkerry.com website, and only the 1st version signed by Zumwalt remains there. Seems odd they would remove that one, because the Lehman version had the very favorable additional text:
"By his brave actions, bold initiative, and unwavering devotion to duty, Lieutenant (jg) Kerry reflected great credit upon himself...."
as was noted in the newspaper article.
The problem with removing it, seemingly in response to the Lehman statement, is that doing so will simply feed the speculation by the Kerry critics.
Thanks for clearing that up, Moron is all over the place going from town to town saying to John Kerry thanks for clearing that up, what is it, Moron must be the only one on the planet who does not grok that a vote for the resolution was not a vote to screw up Iraq, a vote for the resolution was not a vote to moronically mishandle our alliances, a vote for the resolution was not a vote to bust in, bog down and get 1000 casualties.
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Thanks for clearing that up Moron, John Kerry needs to say, Moron, George Bush is gonna be in NYC hollering and whooping and he has been going round the country thanking me for clearing things up, well, we hope he sees things clearly now, we hope he gets that a vote for the resolution was not a blank check, a vote for the resolution was not a vote to send troops in when their backups had not even reached the border, a vote for the resolution was not a vote to moronically tick off the entire world and our allies and a vote for the resolution was not a vote for a bog down and sucking sound and billions being whooshed from the communities.
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Let’s clear up some more things for George Bush, send George Bush a message, say we are gonna clear things up for you so even you can understand, we’re coming, you’re going and don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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Oh yeah, sweet, sweet, sweet .
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So I just had this great idea: a web site in response to the Swift Boat Liars called swiftboatliars.com. It would contrast what they said then with what they say now, and have other evidence of their lies. So I type in http://www.swiftboatliars.com/ and find that someone did it for me!
Anybody know anything about these folks?
Al Hunt, reliable voice of wishful rethugnik .
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Ha, ha, ha.
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More than 50% of folks blame the Bushies for the Swift boat liars and smears, imagine that, ha, ha, ha .
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I’m shocked_shocked.
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Everybody groks they are the fugly rat weasel icks and everybody groks that the reason they are fugly is that they are scared witless.
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So I just had this great idea: a web site in response to the Swift Boat Liars called swiftboatliars.com. It would contrast what they said then with what they say now, and have other evidence of their lies. So I type in http://www.swiftboatliars.com/ and find that someone did it for me!
Anybody know anything about these folks?
Apparently the pragmatic rethugnik wing has been imploring them to do a pretty please, bogus beatific, bounce the Bambinos kind of convention.
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They think the snarly warly is just ticking people off, gee, wonder why .
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They are telling the hardcore intestinal rethugniks to shush up and be quiet for a while, while Bushie does his W is for Wonderbra number aka We will Uplift Thee.
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This should be so entertaining.
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Betcher Dubya will not be able to keep it a snarl free zone.
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Ha, ha, ha .
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Anyone think John Kerry is being too quiet?
I don't.
Anyone think John Kerry is being too quiet?
I don't.
kissfan ... he ain't loud enough yet ... I want more vocals from the challenger instead of the shrub
syntallic -
I think he's waiting for the debates. He's got to be setting him up. He's been too successful for too long to run a campaign this quiet without a good reason.
kerry will do fine with debates --- but he needs to jump the preznut good for the next few days
It's going to be hard to get any airtime over the next few days during the convention without really making some inflamatory accusations. That would mess up the whole quiet approach but maybe he needs to pull out an old Rove trick and have his surrogates do it for him. I'm sure Howard Dean would be glad to go on the attack. Remember the flack when he said the terror alerts were politically motivated?
that's what I am talking about --- get a surrogate to do the killing so Kerry gets no blood on his hands.
use Dean, use Carville, use whomever takes the lightning rod approach. Bob Dole did this crap for years
sometimes, if the opponent gets too close to the lightning rod, they get executed
If done correctly, this could be Kerry's setup for the debates. But it would have to be something that will stick. It needs to take away a strength of Bush's, maybe security. Kerry already leads on economy healthcare and education so it has to be something else.
Actually, syntallic, Matthews was much worse when Clinton was in power. His show during the late 90's was non-stop Clinton bashing.
That's when I formed my impressions of Tweety, and when I decided life was too short for me to spend watching his show.
I think Hunting of the President or A Vast Conspiracy quotes him as saying he found his ratings went up when he did the Clinton bashing. That explains, at least in part, why the former aid to Tip O'neill acts like a Republican stooge.
zactly odysseus
bashing clinton was a regular cottage industry with the media -- it still is, only now a billion michael moore's are out there now because they cannot get a voice inside corporate media
matthews will turn on bobo, too, and he's already hedging his bets if you watch some of his actions on the swift boat thing, michelle malkin and real time with bill maher
it's quietly getting acceptable to bash the preznut at certain points. he is vulnerable with these polls and if the ratings turn into a preznut bash matthews will be hacking with the ax just like the rest of them
I call it "axman tv" and nobody does it better than matthews
Does anybody have the link to the interview with Karl Rove the other night in which he kept referring to the protesters as Democrats. I can't find it on this site or dailykos (i saw it here or there on Thursday. Please let me know...cause I'm in the middle of a blog post (lol)
Why Are We Back In Iraq?
Over 200 arrested so far in NYC. How many total were arrested in Boston? 7? 10?
These republicans aren't fucking around. Be careful out there: this isn't a free country.
About that general strike in New York idea -- I happened to be touring Italy when Florence went on a general strike oh, about ten years ago now.
Everything was closed from a certain hour to a certain hour. Museums, shops, parks, everything. After the certain hour (I think it was about six pm), back to business as usual. (Tourism is a major industry in Florence; don't want the tourists to take their lire down the road to the next town.)
Anyway, our bus (yes, it was a package tour, we had a terrific time) got caught in the middle of a huge march. Our guide (who'd been through such things before) said, don't worry, relax, watch the show, but stay on the bus just in case.
It looked like everyone in town was going to a big ball game. Everyone was cheerful. People were carrying signs and singing songs. People were marching in groups with signs identifying who they were. (The Florentine firemen got a big swoon from the women on the bus and half the men too.) The street sweepers did drill routines with brooms. It looked like a big mobile picnic.
It got a lot of attention, no one got hurt, everyone had a good time, and did I mention it got a lot of attention. It was all over the news and the papers, with lots of good pictures. (Think about it: wouldn't you stop at a picture of the Florentine firemen? and then read the story to see what they're doing?) And after about six o'clock, everyone went and had a vino and talked about what a great time they had, let's do it again next time we've got something to say.
I thought it was an immensely healthy way to demonstrate public opinion of something.
when the total hits a 1000 and it will, then the media will turn it into a story
Well, I should have done some research before I posted. That general strike in Florence was actually all over Italy -- see what I missed while I was gawking at the firemen -- and it led to the downfall of the Berlusconi government, which was trying to cut the Italian version of Social Security. How about that.
(Berlusconi came back years later, though. That boomerang thing seems to be in fashion among politicians of a certain type.)
Go New Yorkers!
much peace to NYC .. they are getting it right up the ass over this convention
it's like feeding the bears at the zoo and I fear that rove knew what he was doing by selecting new york
CBS News
Suspected Pentagon spy served in Israel
Reuters - 1 hour ago
A Pentagon analyst suspected of passing classified information to Israel served as a US Air Force reservist in Israel, The Washington Post has reported.
FBI Probes Whether Pentagon Official Spied For Israel
For those interested, I've posted my latest (8/29) survey of Electoral College tracking / prediction / projection / forecast sites here.
Executive summary: currently, of the 46 sites surveyed, 28 (61%) show Kerry winning, and 6 others (13%) show him ahead. Nine sites (20%) show Bush winning, and 3 others (7%) show him ahead. Kerry's lead over Bush has eroded considerably from its high of over 300 votes -- he currently averages around 275 votes.
Over the past week, 76% of the sites (26) which have been updated in that time (34 of them) show Bush gaining votes, mostly taking them from Kerry (68%), but also from previously unasssigned "toss-up" states.
Bush is now in the best shape he's been in for the past two months, although he hasn't quite re-gained the ground he lost in that time, and Kerry still leads.
explains, at least in part, why the former aid to Tip O'neill acts like a Republican stooge.
Wile E. Odysseus
Don't forget what an ineffective Speaker Tip was in opposition to Reagan.
Also don't forget that when Tip gave way to Jim Wright, who was the only effective opposition to Reagan, it was that "bastion of liberalism" Common Cause which made common cause with Gingrich, trumped up a petty charge against him and gave the far right a free hand.
Matthews is a willling tool of corporate oligarchy. If on occasion he gives one of their other tools a hard time it hardly makes up for his entire career.
I just heard on the news that when Bush was in Tampa an off duty police officer screamed at Chimp and told him that if he had bullets he would shoot him in the head and that he would also shoot his father. The man is under arrest and could face 5 years in prison.
HAAAAAAAA Chimp
No wonder he's got short man's disease; he never earned a thing in his life, and he sounds like jetthro bodine
Got to get some winks so I can watch some mad protesting later today. Also watching 2 Hurricanes heading for the East coast.
Any chance one of the Hurricanes is named George and headed for New York? Oh the irony....
You know, it occurs to me that we may have proof that either Bin Laden and Al queda WANT Bush to win, OR that Ridges/Ashcrofts' alerts are politically motivated.
I mean, the fact that we had alerts just when the democrats convention was ending, when they were gathering momentum and votes...the fact that there haven't been any alerts while the whole "swift boat" controversy has been happening, nor in the build-up to the RNC convention....
Gotta mean either Al queda desperately want Bush to win, OR that the WH is playing politics with the alerts....
Don't ya think?
Mort "Fox's 'liberal'" Kondrake once told me at a party pnce that his wife thought gays should be used as cannon fodder.
He thought it was funny.
patriotboy | Email | Homepage | 08.28.04 - 7:57 pm | #
This is joke...isn't it?
Dear god....
Perhaps it is time for another Google bomb
Swiftboat Liars Trying to Get Deserter Bush Elected.
for the HTML impaired
<a href="http://www.swiftvets.com/">Swiftboat Liars Trying to Get Deserter Bush Elected</a>.
Always nice to see other leftie Kiss fans. We seem to be a rare breed.
Irony:
McCain gets introduced by the senator from South Carolina who says that he is honored by all of his military comarades.....isn't South Carolina where they got some vets to trash McCain in 2000? Then McCain quotes FDR at the Republican convention...
Thats just TOO SICK!
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