I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
then why was a democrat INVITED by the republicans to be their keynote speaker? fuckwits
then why was a democrat INVITED by the republicans to be their keynote speaker? fuckwita
Dude. I hear that Lyndon LaRouche is a member of the Democratic party.
Might have been an improvment over Sieg Heil Zell.
Why was a 'Democrat' invited? Plausible deniability, dude. Even as we watched the thing happen, there were the Republicans saying, 'who, us? Not us, it's a D*E*M*O*C*R*A*T'.
Where's that bandaid?
I always love it when someone prefaces a joke with "I'm not racist, but..."
I kind of miss the days of PC, when the rules were well known and racism and racist comments couldn't simply be shrugged off with a 'they don't know any better,' or 'that's just the way he is.' I realize now that that was what "PC" was for, so people couldn't be racist and claim ignorance. It worked for a little while and then people decided that they were sick of PC and wanted to be racist again. Its everywhere, but the Republican party and its followeres lay it on thick. Now its a battle that doesn't seem winnable anymore. So sad.
Repukes get the biggest kick
When they see an AIDS-ridden spic.
A disabled nigger
Is good for a snigger,
And a war wound is considered a nick.
You should have seen the "Protest Warriors" at the RNC protests carrying their "Black Children in Black Schools" signs.
It was supposed to be "satire" of "limousine liberals" but everybody assumed they were saying it straight. Looking at their ugly little white faces, it looked more like a Freudian slip.
Bush Numbers"
from the Independant.co.uk
A selection
George Bush And his special friend
$60bn Loss to Enron stockholders, following the largest bankruptcy in US history.
$205m Amount Enron CEO Kenneth Lay earned from stock option profits over a four-year period.
$101m Amount Lay made from selling his Enron shares just before the company went bankrupt.
$59,339 Amount the Bush campaign reimbursed Enron for 14 trips on its corporate jet during the 2000 campaign.
30 Length of time in months between Enron's collapse and Lay (whom the President called "Kenny Boy") still not being charged with a crime.
Anyone here who hasn't already read Perlstein's account of the 1964 LBJ/Goldwater campaign, BEFORE THE STORM, do so immediately. He is an outstanding writer.
I dunno, Atrios. Read that again in a few days. I think you must have had to have been there.
GWPDA,
have you signed up for Iraq? Hey if you talk the talk, walk the walk, baby.
Unless you don't want a bandaid.
Good article.
GOB
good link. thanks
Yes, the party of compassionate social and fiscal conservatism. Comply or get a boot in your face and your windows shattered.
This is how it’s happened throughout history. We’ve all shaken our heads in disbelief as we watched grainy black-and-white footage of the German “rise” from war-torn nation to an industrialist nation rebuilding, to economically depressed nation to war-like nation. (Partly blamed on “terrorists” who burned down the Reichstag) Then we watched its march to fascism and eventual self-destruction all while saying to ourselves “God, how stupid could they be? How could they not see this happening to their own country? How could they not see it coming?”
It’s because they were human beings who always tended to skew slightly towards extremism as a group when whipped up into a frenzy, even though it’s citizens would be shocked had they undertaken such activities as individuals.
Yep! We're definitely turning the corner folks…Onto 4th Reich Avenue.
Lime Rickey, I say this a lot but this one is your best limericks ever. You do collect these don't you, or do you just take your brilliance for granted?
Lime Rickey knocks another one out of the ballpark.
prochoicelib, GDWPA is talking about the "purple heart" bandaids that the Republicans were passing out at their convention to mock Kerry. It's sarcasm. GDWPA is one of us.
Didn't notice the link before my earlier post. Right you are, Atrios.
Who did those uppity, vicious, ignorant white folk (and Alan Keyes) think they were talking to, anyway?
And Keyes shaded them on the blithering idiot scale!
11 point jump in the polls, my ass.
Damn, damn, damn! Feel the hate. These bastards own the Whitehouse, Congress and the SCOTUS. WTF are they so permanently pisses about? Their raw hatred of all things liberal is scary.
The Laugh Factory? You mean that stuff was supposed to be, like, funny? Ha-ha? Somehow I don't think it would have been any better experiencing it live. It's all very well to be a racist, homophobic moron, but gee whiz...if you don't even have a sense of humor....
Some of the jokes were funny, I grudgingly admit. On health care: "Sure you can get an abortion in Canada. But the waiting period is nine months."
Thanks Hec - GWPDA is definitely one of us.
Wow! That was a powerful article. I was particularly struck by his mention of ReThug "grassroots extremism". How very true.
I've caught some of the RNC.
So far, it appears that Bush's platform is based on War, War, and more War. That's what the speakers keep applauding him for.
Sen. Killen went on for the longest time denigrating Kerry because he wouldn't bring us as much war as Bush will. He chided Kerry as being the kind of man that would wait until a nation proved to be a threat by attacking us before invading them, whereas Bush will invade nations before they become a threat.
Pop Quiz: Which nation attacked the US on 9/11?
*"It doesn't make any difference if, like me, you couldn't even speak English until you were in your twenties..."*
"Islamic prayer in Spanish," said comic Julia Gorin. "That's the next step."
I knew it! When Jeb's son spoke Spanish at the Convention, I thought, "They're playing to the Hispanic and especially Cuban vote, but how many of the regular white Repubs are gritting their teeth about him not speaking English."
So if I pledged $1 to Kerry/Edwards for every time OBL was mentioned during the RNC, would I be even a penny poorer?
So if I pledged $1 to Kerry/Edwards for every time OBL was mentioned during the RNC, would I be even a penny poorer?
Hell I heard Obama's name more than I heard Osama's.
i think you'd owe a dollar. rudy giuliani escaped from the reservation for a sentence or so.....
my apologies to GWPDA
sorry dude.
Some of the jokes were funny, I grudgingly admit. On health care: "Sure you can get an abortion in Canada. But the waiting period is nine months."
Some of the jokes were funny, I grudgingly admit. On health care: "Sure you can get an abortion in Canada. But the waiting period is nine months."
Some of the jokes were funny, I grudgingly admit. On health care: "Sure you can get an abortion in Canada. But the waiting period is nine months."
Some of the jokes were funny, I grudgingly admit. On health care: "Sure you can get an abortion in Canada. But the waiting period is nine months."
These people just think differently. I cannot understand their anger and fear.
Zell Miller's speech was not just the greatest oratory of my lifetime. It stands proudly beside the best speeches ever delivered. I'm glad I lived long enough to hear it.
I believe history will place it beside those of our greatest Americans.
7 posted on 09/04/2004 8:31:07 AM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
with at least 4 enthusiastically agreeing responses.
I think it's time for us to get rid of our acronym SCLM (so-called liberal media) for one that's more up-to-date and appropriate: SRM (state-run media).
Nota -
Anger? Yes. Fear? No.
If you had been alive during WWII as Miller was,
and if you had attended the Democratic caucuses where Daschle so cynically trades
away our national security for a bargaining chip
for a union, you'd be angry too. You'd want to
stop it, too.
If you had been paying attention to what the muslim fanatics have been doing since the late '70s, and you really understood that they intend to kill YOU as soon as possible, then you'd be determined - not fearful - determined to go hunt them down where they live, and "drain the swamps" of that festering hatefilled ideology.
That's where it comes from.
I'm so glad Zell's not from Texas.
interestingly enough, the famous grainy footage of the nazis burning books was filmed when they were destroying magnus hirschfeld's institute on sexuality (i may have the exact name a bit botched, but you know what i mean), the pioneering institute that helped lay the groundwork for what has grown into lesbian/gay/bi/trans liberation/equality movements and the likes.
the destruction of magnus' library was a tragedy for a host of reasons; the archives, manuscripts, dossiers and reams of information from international sources that were meticulusly maintained literally went up in flames and with them, a huge piece of the historical underpinning which hirschfeld held to be essential in grounding, explaining, and yultimately in creating a tolerant and fair and equal society for queers and not-queers.
folks seem to forget that the queers were one of the first targets of the nazis, and the type of force and ruthlessness exerted by the nazis was intentional. a group which lacks an historicaL documentation of its past has no true past, just a faith in that which gets passed on through whatever mechanisms can be pieced together (i.e. oral tradition and underground writings/media) -- and of course. the inadequacies of such methods for maintaining the historical foundations for a group of individuals so stigmatized would render that group so disadvantaged -- and that was the point.
depending upon the faith in the breadth and accuracy of oral tradition or the underground means that for a great many within the dominant culture can summarily dismiss claims by such oppressed groups as heresay or myth. if these "heresay stories" and/or 'myths" are to have any power, that power is derived from the will of those in dominant culture, to the extent that those in power wish to vest any oppresed group with some degree of worth and relevance. a shift in the ruling social more can inflict a tremendous amount of injury upon such a group.
i was appalled that so many folks were so encouraged by bush trashing lesbians and gay men (and bi folks and tran s folks too) for all the known reasons, but also because it is so disheartening to have our president publicly state that the cultural more he embraces does not embrace queers.
as an easy target for the nazis, the bush cabal has deemed queers an easy target again.
same for pro-choice, same for pro-environment, same for pro-public health, etc.
the parallels to pre-ww2 germany are quite apt i hold.
Some of the jokes were funny, I grudgingly admit. On health care: "Sure you can get an abortion in Canada. But the waiting period is nine months."
Zender,
I'm currently in Berlin, having some interesting conversations with a famous physicist who was 10 years old during the fire-bombing of Darmstadt. Personally, I'm a rational atheist but if you want to talk about Islamic fundamentalists first read Karen Armstrong's "Battle for God" about fundamentalism in the three main monotheistic religions, and get back to me.
Hint: it's about the fear.
queen crab - you must have missed the memo. The replacement for SCLM is SCUM. So Called Unbiased Media.
Zender, I agree, bombing a civilian population who never did anything to you is the sign of a festering hate-filled ideology. That's one of the reasons I was against the Iraq war.
Zender, I agree, bombing a civilian population who never did anything to you is the sign of a festering hate-filled ideology. That's one of the reasons I was against the Iraq war.
Rick P., no, that's not even close to being funny, and it's not even close to being true either. And don't refresh your window after posting, unless you really like spamming the window with nine reposts.
drain the swamps" of that festering hatefilled ideology.
If our goal is draining the swamps of festering hate-filled ideology, I imagine we could start a whole lot closer to home with some gen-u-ine American swamps.
Just sayin'
On the other hand, if our goal were to create lots more swamps, well, we could hardly do any better than we've done under Bush. Now, even people who used to be our allies hate us and our Secretary of State can't even attend the Olympics in Greece.
queen crab - you must have missed the memo. The replacement for SCLM is SCUM. So Called Unbiased Media.
Good one. Or how about Corporate-Run Antidemocratic Press.
ooh, good one. CRAP. I nominate you for the Atrios acronym generating committee
Thanks, Karin. I finally found my niche 
.
If you had been paying attention to what the muslim fanatics have been doing since the late '70s,
Oh, puh-leeze. Hell, we can't even get the wingnuts to admit we backed Hussein back in the '80s.
It's fear, son, that's all you have.
And as for the stuff at the GOP comedy night, it's telling how wingnut humor plays out. Guys like George Carlin, Lenny Bruce, Bill Hicks, Groucho Marx, Dick Gregory, Richard Pryor...they attacked and poked fun at the people in charge. Wingnut "comics" make fun of people who can't fight back. Typical.
Rock on, queen crab. You & Lime Rickey are awesome!
Um, yeah, those jokes REALLY weren't funny. All I read was a hate-filled spiel (sp?) masquerading - poorly - as humour.
And for the record, Rick, we do have abortions in Canada, and they are performed in a safe and timely fashion. I used to be a clinic escort, and the staff and facilities were top-notch. So shove your repeated, lame-ass 'joke'.
Apologies for the repeated posts. And for the implication that what the comic said about Canada is TRUE. Of course it isn't. What I should have said was that the some of the jokes were funny if you accept their idiotic premises.
Fair enough, Rick. I apologize for my snark, especially as a serial double-poster. 
What is more troubling--in fact MOST troubling--is that the once proud progressive bastion "The Village Voice" chose to cut Pearlstein's stuff.
I live in Nashville. Bruce Dobie, the editor of the once "alternative" 'Nashville Scene' sold the Scene to a group of investors tied in with the Voice. In the process, he became a millionaire, and in turn, bought into this consortium, which is now called "Village Voice Publications."
VVP has since bought "The LA Weekley," "The Orange Country Weekley," and other "alternative" papers around the country.
Dobie, the person who bought the Scene over ten years ago, and for awhile, transformed it into a cutting edge muckracking publication here in Nashville, was described by a woman I know who used to model for his publication as "a red neck who wants to be hip" and as a nerdy person who was all about wanting to get rich.
All of this is to say that I've watched as the Scene has become slowly defanged, unoffensive, and even right-wing in various circumstances during the past three years. (Within the past year, Dobie has run an editorial decrying those who are alarmed by media consolidation.)
In short, in terms of cutting edge, "alternative" journalism, the Scene has become a joke as its owners/editors play safe in their ongoing attempts to grow their new media empire and get richer and richer.
It sounds to me as if they're doing the same thing to the once venerable "Voice" as well.
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