I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
It's not odd to stay at sea with a boat, but it's very odd it would be sitting still. Normally you put to sea and head away from the hurricane.
maybe he's a bush, they live down there in florida and have a history of low regard for the little people
Stay the course now, stay the course...
I don't know, but my ass would have been off the boat 2 days ago. Job or no job.
must be a republican
see that's the problem with you libruhls. Always the pessimists.
What about the schools, dammit, the schools! I suppose you would prefer that Saddam be the skipper of that yacht?
the employer must have offered them flex-time, out of concern for their families.....
If you know what you are doing and have been at sea during a huricane before, then staying at sea is sometimes the better option.
The other option is stay safe with your boat tied up and watch it get bashed to bits.
Maybe, it's Crockett and Tubbs.
I hope they realize they won't be getting any overtime pay for this.
WTF is up with this non-stop hurricane coverage? Good grief. I was sick of it 3 days ago.
The captain's on now, he says he was hired to babysit the yacht through the storm. I presume he had instructions to get the hell out of there and head to calmer waters if necessary. But he had engine trouble and went adrift.
You're watching CNN, best to probably not take it too seriously.
Look! Rush and Daryn are bringin' in a couple of keys.
This just it! More personal horror that we can air Live as it happens! Sir sir your first born was just swept away into the ocean while you were trying to save your roof tiles how do you feel?
and the anchor just said that the yacht's employees are still on it?
The yacht has a talking anchor???
(slinks off in shame)
magnum:
thanks for the laugh. a real live, out loud belly laugh. i'd have blown coffee out of my nose, had i been drinking coffee.....
NewsPorn.
I mean, what's the fucking point? It's not as if you're actually going to see someone die, since there's a 5-second delay. But that's the only reason to show the damn thing.
Magnum, I laughed!
It's always interesting how the networks crank up coverage after the first serious storm makes U.S. landfall. Usually because their inattention to the first storm denied them the good visuals. I guess the presence of better hotels on the east coast, the nonstop flights from New York, and the supposed dearth of real news on a long weekend is what's brought out the big guns. Dan Rather is having one of his emotional episodes on CBS. It looks like he's sought on the spot where the lashing winds and rain buffet him the worst. I love when he talks about how "we believe the storm will may landfall," etc., as if he's more than an overpaid, mentally unstable observer to this event. It gets especially grating when he mixes in his cornball-yet-surreal fractured Texanisms. I watched for about five minutes before returning to the more rational local coverage.
I guess this coverage must be wearing on everyone in the rest of the country. Being in the Ft. Myers, Florida, area, and not necessarily out of the woods, I'm keeping a pretty close eye on it.
That boat has a better anchor than CNN.
Totally OT, but....
Have I mentioned how much I hate Andrew Sullivan?
Jeez...I just looked at his latest postings, and I swear to god he's like a more articulate but crazier version of Adrian.
Oh! Gilligan...
The captain and crew are under no danger. It is obvious they are cowards. In a few decades the truth will come out that it was a minor rain and wind storm, nothing more. Just ask Yacht Captains for Truth. The lady with the cuts on her hand, fell on purpose so she could be president in the future.
Thanks, magnum, I actually laughed, too.
I'm still thinking about the 'Swift' recovery (as in Swift boats). People typically say, "I wish you a SPEEDY recovery."
Rove doesn't miss a beat.
What? No lame ass poll about John Kerry not supporting storm systems?
Soon Cheney will go to Florida and tell them that Kerry's not a true southerner and can't protect them from hurricanes the way that Bush and Cheney can.
Did you see Jeb earlier this morning talking about the plans to bring in housing so vegetable and fruit growers would be able to harvest their crops? He was not worried about migrant workers losing everything they had, just about their employers not being able to get their vegetables and fruits picked. Do you think there will be disaster relief for migrant workers?
on the ABC News Now feed (available on some HD feeds) they are carrying WPLG-Miami coverage.
Miami-Dade Mayor Alex Panellas just said that he had gotten some reports of employers telling their employees too come to work or face termination.
He basically told them not to do that or face the consequences.
Do you think there will be disaster relief for migrant workers?
There hasn't been serious federal relief for anyone else, so it seems migrants have finally achieved some degree of economic parity with the rest of the poulation.
Since people displaced by Charley are still waiting for those "surging" house trailers three weeks after they were promised, I suspect there will be civil unrest if they don't come to the west coast first.
If I couldn't get it out to sea, there's no way you'd get me to stay on it tied up. With a big storm it doesn't matter how many fenders you tie on, you're going to get slammed into something.
I had great fun sailing in hurricane Bob way back in the day tho. Of course Bob wasn't much of a hurricane.
Vot a buncha gurrly men! I vould take der Storm God's hammer and jam it up his ass.
Hey, did you see the Reputed gay CNN
morning anchor actually getting blown (about) on the air by Francis! Must be a first on an American news network?
My wife teaches k-5 computers, so I gave her this internet weather map loop for her class, but she refused (probably wisely) to show it to her younger kids:
http://tinyurl.com/69n2s
Looks like it's coming ashore right between West Palm Beach and Port Saint Lucie.
http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/...4/
090404V.shtml
McCain: Miller's attack on Kerry could hurt Bush
By Janet Hook
Tribune Newspapers: Los Angeles Times
Friday 03 September 2004
NEW YORK — Sen. John McCain, who has pushed for more civility in this year's presidential race, is warning that the biting attack on Sen. John F. Kerry by a fellow Democrat at the Republican National Convention on Wednesday night might harm President Bush's efforts to woo swing voters.
McCain (R-Ariz.) said the keynote address by Sen. Zell Miller (D-Ga.) could prove as controversial as a speech by Pat Buchanan at the 1992 GOP convention in Houston.
"I think it backfires," McCain said of Miller's rhetorical assault on Kerry. He added that it "makes Buchanan's speech … look milquetoast."
OK, it hit me belatedly. If the storm is bad enough to destroy the migrant housing, there's not going to be anything worth picking anyway, so Jeb is just blowing smoke. He's probably just saying something/anything to reassure the largely-Republican agriculture lobby, since he's just been grinnin' and shuckin' and jivin' up until now. Amazing how Chimp found the time and money to parachute in the Sunday after Charley for a little swing-state political theater, but still no sign of those "surging" masses of people and equipment, at least from FEMA.
Hey, plus more Bush family compassionate conservatism for all you economic girly men (form an article in my local paper):
"Floridians in the intersection of Frances and Charley hit by both hurricanes are subject to double damage from the storm and a twofold financial wallop: Homeowners' policies require separate deductibles for the two events.
"'We recognize that that truly is a financial hardship, but the law's very clear,' Treasurer Tom Gallagher said. 'We do think (insurance companies will) be very generous in their handling of the claims.'
"Two-thirds of Floridians have 2 percent deductibles on their homeowners' policies.
"For a $200,000 home damaged by both hurricanes, that would mean $8,000 in out-of-pocket expenses before coverage would kick in."
Shorter Bush crony to storm victims: drop dead!
OT, but something you will NOT see from "Eschaton";
Spinning swift boat vets as Bush surrogates (9/1)
Reporters and pundits keep going beyond the evidence to blur the lines between the Bush campaign and Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, a group that has been critical of John Kerry's Vietnam war record.
While news outlets including the New York Times have documented various connections between Bush and the so-called 527 group, there's no evidence that the President is behind the ads. But as Columbia Journalism Review's Campaign Desk weblog showed recently, reporters have often written news articles based on the presumption of a connection, writing only that the two groups claim to be separate.
Since then, many liberal pundits have implied a direct connection between the Bush campaign and the independent group. Filmmaker Michael Moore went the furthest in a recent open letter to the President. In it, he repeatedly attributed accusations made by SBVFT to Bush. "And thanks, also, Mr. Bush," he says in one such accusation, "for exposing the fact that Mr. Kerry might have actually WOUNDED HIMSELF in order to get those shiny medals.
More common than such outright conflation are accusations that the SBWFT are "surrogates" of the Bush campaign. The word implies evidence that the SBVFT are working on behalf of or as substitutes for the President, but pundits often aren’t demonstrating that.
For instance, Atlanta Journal-Constitution editorial page editor and syndicated columnist Cynthia Tucker said of the Swift Boat Vets, "Bush's surrogates lie to tarnish Kerry's medals." Other pundits who have referred to the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth as Bush campaign "surrogates" are Hearst Newspapers reporter and columnist Helen Thomas and New Jersey Star-Ledger national political correspondent John Farmer.
Disturbingly, this spin mirrors the Kerry campaign's line on the Swift Boat Vets. The Democratic presidential candidate has called the group a "front for the Bush campaign." Other Democrats have directly referred to them as Bush "surrogates."
Surely pundits and reporters should present some evidence before repeating unproven political claims as fact.
http://www.spinsanity.org/
post.h...409200462012856
Any of you moonbats have any facts concerning this?
Thought not.
Bwaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Daryn Kagaan and Rush ? wtf? Sorry , I just can't wrap my brain around that , but it does conjour the scene from the Grifters when Annette Benning turns a trick with the enormous land lord to pay the rent ...
More a matter of physical scale than an oblique reference to kagan/ prostitution...but as media whores go ...ok, ok, I'll stop ....
Meanwhile on Fox News :
SBVFT indicate that this storm has
lied and is really a squall. Its
status as a Hurricane is under new
scrutiny as one crew member after
another steps up to attest to the
true puny nature of this storm.
'We do think (insurance companies will) be very generous in their handling of the claims.'
the next time will be the first time....
It must be bad -- I'm watching the Weather Channel, and Jim Cantore's hair seems to have been completely blown off his head....
Usama:
Who gives 2 rabbit turds about the Swiffers. They are bankrolled by Texan Right wing Extremists , led by a sociopathic neo nazi and an ex-nixon hatchet man , professional liar and transparent buffoon.And everyone has figured that out by now but you , oh yeah and fuck off
changing my name to MoonBat#1
Maybe they're just hanging on and risking life and limb to get that big $50 tip from Barbara and Jenna.
"Any of you moonbats have any facts concerning this?"
well, a couple of them are bush administration appointees.
http://news.yahoo.com/news?
tmpl=...erry_veterans_4
Yeah, I'd try to save the fruit and the fruit pickers first. It just makes good business sense.
"HEY! TROLL HERE! LOOK AT ME! Hey, I'm talkin' to you libruls! LISTEN TO ME, DAMMIT!
Read my stupid freeper shit, moonbats! HELLO?!!? Stupid libruls, PAY ATTENTION TO ME! I'm important, dammit!
(sound of troll head exploding, crickets chirping)
the next time will be the first time
Compassionate actuarialism.
can you guys imagine that someone actually lacks perception enough to actually continue to boost for the Swiffers?
Wouldn't you have to live in a cave not to know that that corrupt group has no credibility ?
and that no-one cares....
Jeb will give nothing to the migrant workers - who gives a shit about them? They don't vote, and if they did, they'd probably be Dems anyway.
Just the fact that prettyboy asshole Bill 'Rush Without The Daryn' Hemmer is stuck in the middle of a huge fucking storm makes me very very happy.
>>Big John on CNn.com Live from OHio
It's Kerry's yacht.
I'm sure there's no direct link between the Swiftboat Heroes Investigating Truth and Shrub himself. Just like there was no direct link when Shrub used the tactic against Cleland. Or McCain. Or when Shrub's daddy called someone to call someone to get him into the TANG slot Shrub went AWOL from. And Al Capone was a used furniture dealer.
Read my stupid freeper shit,....
Usamadumbasstroll
The above statement shows me, and everyone, just how stupid some people really are. So, now www.spinsanity.org is a "freeper" site?!
BWAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
BWAAAAASSHOLE
we can solve the swift boat mystery - the white house just needs to respond to an FOIA request for their telephone logs with karl rove. they refuse. what do they hve to hide?
If I were Atrios, I'd be a little miffed at the extrememly low quality of moronic brownshirt fuck that Unka Karl was assigning to me...
I agree Atrios, as John effin Kerry should do the exact same thing. Let it ALL be out in the open, how about that?!
:o)
Seriously A-man, with all the money you raise you would think they would send at least the b-team over here.
Will someone ask this girl from Craigslist out and gently persuade her of the error of her ways?
re: Swiftboat Liars for Bush
This has probably already been said, but...
The swiffer ads, I think, were nothing more than an effort shore up the chimps sinking poll numbers before the election in order to make it Bush's post-convention "bounce" appear larger than it would have been otherwise.
Imagine, no swiffer ads and bush is behind by 6 points going into the convention. Then, post covention he gets a 7 point bounce. Now he's only a point or two ahead, instead of 5 or 6 points ahead (with the swiffer ads).
I wouldn't be suprised if the swiffers suddenly disappear, their work done.
The Bonership Society
Seriously A-man, with all the money you raise you would think they would send at least the b-team over here.
Hubris Sonic
Facts suck, don't they, Hubris Sonic?
:o)
no... you suck... the facts say that John Kerry is a war hero and bush is a coward. those are the facts
As long as the storm does not veer into Cambodia, I'm cool.
::yawn::
Ignore the troll
I want to know why the Preznit isn't down there with Jeb calling in faith upon the hurricane to peace be still.
(I expect the Rush/Daryn thing to last until she tries to get his fat ass out of bed to go running with her.)
War hero or AWOL drunk?
Those are the facts, brownshirt... end of story.
Usama, you ran off last night! I've been dying to talk to you!
First, I wanted you to tell us, where was John Kerry during the time he claimed to be in Cambodia?
magnum your "homepage" is disturbing.
Will someone ask this girl from Craigslist out and gently persuade her of the error of her ways?
No thanks. Clearly she'd expect a real man to enlist and go get his legs blown off to prove that GWB isn't really like Saddam after all.
re: Swiftboat Liars for Bush
_Refuted by spinsanity; http://www.spinsanity.org/
post.h...409200462012856 _
The swiffer ads, I think, were nothing more than an effort shore up the chimps sinking poll numbers before the election in order to make it Bush's post-convention "bounce" appear larger than it would have been otherwise.
_Opinions and assholes, everyone has them._
Imagine, no swiffer ads and bush is behind by 6 points going into the convention. Then, post covention he gets a 7 point bounce. Now he's only a point or two ahead, instead of 5 or 6 points ahead (with the swiffer ads).
_Wishful thinking. Keep it up and wathc the John effin Kerry meltdown continue._
I wouldn't be suprised if the swiffers suddenly disappear, their work done.
Tim-In-Houston
I wouldn't be surprised if more 527's start attacking John effin Kerry. Just a matter of days now.... http://www.moveonforamerica.org/
Oh, Ghod, it's not out Ship of State, is it?
no... you suck... the facts say that John Kerry is a war hero and bush is a coward. those are the facts
Hubris Sonic
I guess the military gives out honorable discharges to cowards?
http://users.cis.net/coldfeet/ANG22.gif
Ahem. "our". sheesh.
magnum your "homepage" is disturbing.
Hubris Sonic | Email | Homepage | 09.04.04 - 12:06 pm | #
Try a Google image search for "Magnum" and you'll see it's the best of a bad bunch!
you would think the coast guard would order them ashore.
john muhammad got an honorable discharge
Usama, why won't you tell us where John Kerry really was when he claimed he was in Cambodia?
Laura Bush's vagina got an honorable discharge.
$3,000,000 marine tax writeoff (must be a Republican).
I found this
google magnum picture
which is pretty nice yo.
I guess the military gives out honorable discharges to cowards?
http://users.cis.net/coldfeet/ANG22.gif
If they are important cowards.
OT-Article and photo of George W. Bush wearing an Airforce medal he never earned!
The Air Force has confirmed that he did not earn it.
The same photo can be found on Bush Sr.'s Presidential Library website about halfway done the page.
Google has a cache of it.
Anyone know if they have used that photo at the convention or in campaign material?
Ownership Society = We (top 1%) own, rest of you slobs rent. Don't like it? WORK HARDER!
I guess the military gives out honorable discharges to cowards?
http://users.cis.net/coldfeet/ANG22.gif
what the hell is that? Obviously you dont know the military. they dont know their ass from a hole in the ground ANY vet will tell you that.
what is that anyway, the Santa Claus defense? If the post office delivers mail to Kris Kringle well thats good enough for you.
friggin 12 year old trolls. grow some ball hair boy.
First, I wanted you to tell us, where was John Kerry during the time he claimed to be in Cambodia?
Swimming to Cambodia
Ask John effin Kerry, he has TWO version of Christmas of 1968 floating around;
............
As he told the Boston Herald in 1979, "I remember spending Christmas Eve of 1968 five miles across the Cambodian border being shot at by our South Vietnamese allies who were drunk and celebrating Christmas. The absurdity of almost being killed by our own allies in a country in which President Nixon claimed there were no American troops was very real."
LBJ was President on Christmas Eve 1968, but let that pass. Here's an Associated Press story from 1992: "Navy Lt John Kerry knew he had no business steering his Mekong River patrol boat across the border into Cambodia, but orders were orders… By Christmas 1968, part of Kerry's patrol extended across the border of South Vietnam into Cambodia."
Just one problem. It never happened. Every living officer up his chain of command says Kerry was never ordered to Cambodia. At least three of his five crewmen say their boat was never in Cambodia. And if you don't believe any of his fellow veterans, read the excerpt from Kerry's own journal published in Tour Of Duty, the recent hagiography by Douglas Brinkley.
On December 24 1968, Kerry was at Sa Dec – that's well inside Vietnam, 55 miles from the Cambodian border – and waxing wistful to his diary about a quiet Christmas far from home: "Visions of sugarplums really do dance through your head and you think of stockings and snow and roast chestnuts and fires with birch logs and all that is good and warm and real. It's Christmas Eve."
..............
http://www.opinion.telegraph.co..../
ixopinion.html
john muhammad got an honorable discharge
Atrios
So did Lee Harvey Oswald, Your point being?
you can tell its some 12 year old. all it can do is cut and paste and write with _underbars_
is school still out?
So did Lee Harvey Oswald, Your point being?
it cant even process logic.
I AM a veteran, moonbat. Served from dec. 31,1981 to 1985, USAF. Target Intelligence Specialist, AFSC 201X1
The yacht owner has apparently asked a higher father for advice. Only history will be the judge of his stupidity.
USAF. Target Intelligence Specialist
HAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA
sure you are... Super 201X1 man.
Today's Poll 9-4
Bush 49 Kerry 45
And right after a convention where Bush will lose momentum from now until Nov.2 ...we can win this...you think the public cares more about Cambodia then WMD that were never there? Lies are Bush's ball and chain.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/
...acking_Poll.htm
The yacht owner has apparently asked a higher father for advice. Only history will be the judge of his stupidity.
Doug
The stupid ones are the dipshits onboard right now. He found some dopes to oversee his property.
that's well inside Vietnam, 55 miles from the Cambodian border
Thank you Usama. But now I have another question. If he wasn't in Cambodia, as your extremely strong evidence seems to suggest, and he was instead in Vietnam, as you so clearly reminded us, what was Kerry's motivation for claiming he was in Cambodia? Was Vietnam a better place to be than Cambodia? Was Vietnam a safer place to be, so that, by claiming to be in Cambodia, Kerry was somehow suggesting to be performing actions that were in some way more valorous than the reality of being in Vietnam?
I'd really like to understand this.
msgop and faux are both reporting an "explosion" at the LAX terminal.
developing . . . as the gossip columnist always says.
Hey, bwahahashitstain.
See the word 'opinion' in the URL you posted? Look it up in a fucking dictionary. And Mark 'Shit' Steyn's opinion counts for nothing, given that he already tried that bull with Max Cleland.
You'd think the Telegraph would drop him, since he only got employed in the first place to suck Conrad Black's cock.
bwahahahahahahahahahaha!
Has Fox taken over the weather channel?
"Just look at those waves rocking the boats around"
Bulletion!!!!! Fox stud Geraldo Rivera will be taking over and he is armed and dangerous
john muhammad got an honorable discharge
Atrios
As did Tim McVeigh, a crazy right-wingnut who perpetrated the worst terror attack on American soil prior to 9/11, killing 168 innocent people who worked for the evil federal gub'ment that Grover Norquist wants "to drown in a bathtub". Sadly, some of the victims were children of evil gub'ment workers who had the misfortune of being at an on-site daycare when McVeigh blew up their parents.
The Newsweek poll was just released. Still trying to understand it..
http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/
...=top_world_news
this time poll is even a bigger joke than I imagined before, and i just saw some of the new zobgy stuff and it looks more authentic in the details -- once again, zogby has this thing pinned -- just like 2000
bobo has seen a positive upturn, but it does not have tread as a huge percentage are not sure if they are going to vote for him in the election
the early suggestion that bobo received a series of diminishing bumps over the days of the coronation was accurate analysis
we are more than "in this thing" now
"Just look at those waves rocking the boats around"
If this boat's a rockin' don't come a knockin'.
syntallic - I think I love you.
The "Ooh, we're going to lose/John Kerry is a pussy" line is just so tired. You always have the data and the analysis to shoot it down. Thanks.
you would think the coast guard would order them ashore
Can't. Just like "mandatory evacuations" mean "we really, really, really want you to leave and we won't send police, fire, or EMS if you call so don't be a dummy and stay we really can't make you though OK it's your buttocks but don't say we didn't warn you."
There was a guy locally in a sailboat who was trying to get out to sea after the Sanibel Causeway drawbridge had been bolted down. He grounded his boat and was going to ride out the storm, despite the desperate pleas of the Coast Guard. His boat was found wrecked after the storm, and his family feared the worst. Turns out just as it got fatally hairy, he put on his SCUBA gear and somehow swam to shore. He checked hinmself into a motel a few miles inland and heard the reports of his demise on the radio.
Holy bounce, Batman! So much for the outlier hypothesis regarding the Time poll:
http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/
...=top_world_news
Liberals are dumb.
I don't see how you can claim the Zogby poll is the one to look at when even Zogby's newest numbers incorporate data as old as 8/3O.
no prob, tena ... ha!
i hear the rethugs are really worried about that "proportional" electoral vote ballot item that could divide the nine EVs in colorado
bobo could still take down florida again, and once again it's still within the MOE, so CO could be a very interesting development; bobo needs all of them to win this election; he also has to have nevada too and the word is that he is struggling big time in nevada because of the nuclear waste issue and huge demographic shifts in the last four years -- bobo may have a huge base in the traditional south, but the edges are frayed in places like VA, NC, TN, AR, AZ and WV
LAX is closed due to "2" security incidents... cnn.com
A DailyKos diary has an excellent analysis fo the Time mag poll. Apparently, that poll has lots of problems.
Jonathan, a commentator there, sent this email to several news execs and reporters at networks and major papers.
From Jonathan from dailykos:
Hello,
As you have no doubt heard, the latest Time poll finds a large lead for George Bush. However, you should know that other polls conducted over roughly the same time period find no such thing:
Zogby: Bush 46, Kerry 44
ARG: Bush 48, Kerry 47
Rassmussen: Bush 49, Kerry 45
Economist: Bush 45, Kerry 45
Furthermore, and more importantly, the Time poll suffers from severe methodological problems. So severe, in fact, as to appear someone wanted to produce a significant "Bush Bounce".
The Time poll before and during the Republican convention used different methodology. The Time poll before the convention did NOT push "Leaner" respondents to decide one way or another. However, the poll conducted DURING the convention DID push leaners to decide. This is a fundamentally different method for gauging responses, especially while a convention is going on. In other words, it compares apples to oranges.
Secondly, the Time poll (conducted over the telephone) first asked to speak to a male respondent. Men are more likely to vote Republican. This is a very odd thing to do, and again almost appears to be intended to skew Republican.
Finally, the act of conducting a telephone survey during the convention itself is likely to produce skewed results, as Republicans and Republican leaners are more likely to be at home, watching the convention. A Newsweek poll conducted over a similar time period during the Democratic convention found a similar pro-Kerry result.
In short, this poll's results are highly suspect, and I urge you to hold off reporting any "Bush Bounce" until true, well-done, post-convention polling is conducted next week. Anything else will be inaccurate.
See the word 'opinion' in the URL you posted? Look it up in a fucking dictionary. And Mark 'Shit' Steyn's opinion counts for nothing, given that he already tried that bull with Max Cleland.
anonymous in nc
If there is a consistent[ly] repeated story by John Kerry about his Vietnam experience, it is his story about how he and his boat spent Christmas Eve and Christmas of 1968 illegally present in Cambodia and, listening to President Nixon's contrary assurances, developed "a deep mistrust of U.S. government pronouncements." See Exhibit 24, Kranish book, p. 84. The point of his story was that his government and his commanders were lying about Kerry's presence in Cambodia on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day. During a critical debate on the floor of the United States Senate on March 27, 1986, Senator John Kerry said:
Mr. President, I remember Christmas of 1968 sitting on a gunboat in Cambodia. I remember what it was like to be shot at by Vietnamese and Khmer Rouge and Cambodians, and have the President of the United States telling the American people that I was not there; the troops were not in Cambodia.
I have that memory which is seared -- seared -- in me . . . .
Exhibit 25, Congressional Record - Senate of March 27, 1986, page 3594.
By way of further example, Kerry wrote an article for the Boston Herald on October 14, 1979:
"I remember spending Christmas Eve of 1968 five miles across the Cambodian border being shot at by our South Vietnamese allies who were drunk and celebrating Christmas. The absurdity of almost killed by our own allies in a country in which President Nixon claimed there were no American troops was very real."
See Exhibit 26.
The Christmas in Cambodia story of John Kerry was repeated as recently as July 7, 2004 by Michael Kranish, a principal biographer of Kerry from The Boston Globe. On the Hannity & Colmes television show, Kranish indicated that Kerry's Christmas in Cambodia was a critical turning point in Kerry's life.
The story is a total preposterous fabrication by Kerry. Exhibit 8 is an affidavit by the Commander of the Swift boats in Vietnam, Admiral Roy Hoffmann, stating that Kerry's claim to be in Cambodia for Christmas Eve and Christmas of 1968 is a total lie. If necessary, similar affidavits are available from the entire chain of command. In reality, Kerry was at Sa Dec -- easily locatable on any map more than fifty miles from Cambodia. Kerry himself inadvertently admits that he was in Sa Dec for Christmas Eve and Christmas and not in Cambodia, as he had stated for so many years on the Senate Floor, in the newspapers, and elsewhere. Exhibit 27, Tour, pp. 213-219. Sa Dec is hardly "close" to the Cambodian border. In reality, far from being ordered secretly to Cambodia, Kerry spent a pleasant night at Sa Dec with "visions of sugar plums" dancing in his head. Exhibit 27, p. 219. At Sa Dec where the Swift boat patrol area ended, there were many miles of other boats (PBR's) leadi
Shrubya's polls went up in Florida after the first hurricane. Rove might be sending one in every week between now and November.
Usamabinlazy,
Bush said he showed up for duty in Alabama but DFAS says they never paid him?
Bush's chain of command ordered Bush to take a flight physical but he refused?
Bush was photographed wearing a ribbon he was not authorized to wear?
The point of his story was that his government and his commanders were lying about Kerry's presence in Cambodia on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day.
Now, this isn't your opinion, Usama. Was the point of his story really that he was in Cambodia on Christmas, or was his point that he was in Cambodia despite "President Nixon's contrary assurances"?
Do you think Kerry was in Cambodia in, say, the week before Christmas, or the week after Christmas, or both?
And you still haven't explained why Kerry would want to say he was in Cambodia when, in reality, he was in Vietnam. I still don't understand what Kerry had to gain by misrepresenting himself. If this were some sort of murder mystery, we'd still be lacking a motive.
usama is still debating cambodia? are we getting our news exclusively from FOX?
and are we disputing other factual accounts that he was there when he said he was?
usama is john o'neills little bitch - admit it, you repugnant skank. you love o'neill's pot belly and deep circles under his eyes -- he reminds you of the "boy pimp" who trafficked you from motel 6 to motel 6 in the plains states; diseased and curious truck drivers with a "deliverance" twang all inside your head: 'you shur haff a purdy mouth, boy!"
I'm gonna regret this, but....
Uh, Usama?
Assuming that Kerry was lying about Cambodia, strictly for the sake of argument...
How does that change the fact that everything out of Bush's mouth is a lie, including the punctuation?
The story is a total pre--
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remember when Kerry took a week off from campaigning for Reagan's funeral.
excellent flash of the pentagon 9/11 "aircraft" mystery.
It is a UCMJ offense to wear a medal that you have not earned.
has anyone noticed or does john o'neill look like bob crane in his last days in scottsdale arizona -- check the last 20 minutes of "auto focus" with a bloated greg kinnear all wild eyed and out of control
musta looked sumthun like usama's "boy pimp" in the truck rest stops
George W. Bush is awesome! Any cute guys think the same?
Well well, Newsweek poll also shows a double digit lead for Bush. Bush at 52, Kerry 41 and Nader 3.
So time to take this poll down too.
From a dailyKos diary and its commentators:
1. Newsweek poll looks like it also pushed "leaners" like the Time mag poll.
No undecideds. So this is suspect.
2. It was taken just the day after the convention. Usually it gives bounce because of free TV. Newsweek poll showed a 10 point lead for Kerry right after Dem convention.
3. This poll was taken on a Friday.
Most Friday polls favor Repubs.
So no reason for panic right now.
We will await fresh polls next week.
George W. Bush is awesome! Any cute guys think the same?
George W. Bush is awesome! Any cute guys think the same?
Kerry should ride around in a tank with a helmet on.
ecoast, dead on analysis, you have it right except the friday thing
the truth will set you free; the first law of polling, interpretation and analysis is disputing the bias or agenda in the procedural methodology of the questions themselves -- which means:
1> do the questions lead to an outcome, desired conclusion or an open interpretation of opinion
2> did the respondents understand the questions or need to be directed
3> do the results require too much substantiation
a "yes" answer to any of these questions means the poll is invalid and probably cannot be extended to any curve of where the election is going (because real polls measure the shift in preference over time, and even a shapsot is out of focus from time to time
More fuel for brownshirt head explosions:
LEADER OF SMEARING VETS PAID TO OPPOSE KERRY: I was in Cambodia, sir.
REPBULCIAN CRIMINAL FORCED TO RESIGN THE PRESIDENCY: In a Swift boat?
WTF? Newsweek now too. I don't trust any of these polls.
Kerry should ride around in a tank with a helmet on.
Bobo should parade around the deck of an aircraft carrier in a navy jump suit holding a helmet with a sign that says "mission accomplished"
oops .. he already did that, didn't he?
Atrios, while I applaud you for acknowleding that Clinton's hospitalization was NOT booed (and heres the actual video clip if you want to list) - http://www.dailyrecycler.com/blo...ng-at-
bush.html - I'm still amazed you think the media is conservative. It's obvious to anyone with even a modicrum of intellectual honesty that the mainstream media is cheerleading for Kerry at this point. Note that the following is NOT an editorial, but a regular news article. This is what we call editorializing the news.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/
news...bush_fact_check
2> did the respondents understand the questions or need to be directed
Well, that's not exactly a "yes" or "no" question... but I get your drift! 
The Democrats are afraid to panic when they should.
It's obvious to anyone with even a modicrum of intellectual honesty that the mainstream media is cheer--
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did the respondents understand the questions or need to be directed
actually it's a typo on my part -- did the respondents fail to understand the questions or need to be directed
the reason why the question is important is that direction or failure to understand means that the bias of the interviewer gets measured rather than the opinion
dave, wake up! wipe the "modicrum" out of your sleepy eyes.
Dave,
You broke the haloscan window with you're zzzz's. You've now become the enemy of all that is holy.
why should the democrats panic, mumphrey?
smart electoral calculation ranges from a 269 to 269 EVs, which means bobo wins with the House casting the final vote to a marginal win for Kerry at 284 EVs -- that doesn't require panic; it requires aggressive campaigning to widen the lead -- and shore up the base
Does the Time poll show a breakdown by states? Because as we all learned last time, and as Robert Jeffers noted yesterday, it's the electoral votes that count.
There are going to be a lot of polls between now and November 2nd. The one that counts happens on November 2nd when we all call up the three people we know who are most likely to have trouble getting to the polls and offer to drive them, babysit for them while they go, cover for them at work so they can vote, or to give them busfare.
We can win back the White House and the Senate. We've got to.
When Darth cites a news story as evidence of a liberal media, he fails to mention that that same news organization has consistently featured hacktackular columns by a particularly bad journalist which makes his example seem quite objective by comparison.
Babysitting is not going to make the difference.
whoops. My inner Fremchman meant to write "your" not "you're." That's why Jesus hate's homonyms.
This an open tread or do we have to discuss the yacht?
For those of you concerned about the polls pushing the undecideds, the undecideds will be pushed by the real poll on Nov 2nd.
On question of should the Democrats ned the civility and play the same game as the Repugs. Is there anyone in the country (except John Kerry) who are leaning towards the civility option.
And, finally, should the Dems bring up Osama. Yes, absolutely. Even if the Repugs more him from the Islamabad Intercontinental to a cave in October for a nice photo-op. The Dem talking point can be: "it's about time, if we hadn't been sidetracked, distracted, and spread thin by Iraq; this would have happened long ago."
Usamabinlazy,
The Swift Boat thing is so over for crissakes. It's been milked for all it's worth. The idiots who bought the lies were not going to vote for Kerry anyway.
For God's sake, if we can't get smarter trolls, can we at least get ones with a bit more creativity?
"hates" not "hate's" I give up.
Darth Philly G
...First of all, since the truth doesn't seem to matter to the Bush campaign, why should it be important to us? Secondly, while there are elements of the SCLM that will be biased towards Kerry, there is plenty of media... Fox, Rush etc. that is not only biased toward Bush, they are shills for Bush.
The truth is like love... in the end the truth you get is equal to the truth you make.
And, finally, should the Dems bring up Osama. Yes, absolutely. Even if the Repugs more him from the Islamabad Intercontinental to a cave in October for a nice photo-op.
Don't forget, the Dems have an even better photo op: dubya's 7-minute My Pet Goat moment of zen already captured in living color for posterity.
Some dopey little teenage fish had a babysitting job on the yacht?
we better panic at 11 points instead of 12.
Dear God.
Look at this: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5915.../site/newsweek/
The brand new Newsweek poll that shows Bush up by 11 was taken BEFORE and after his speech. Of those polled only on Friday after the speech, Bush enjoyed a 16 point advanatage--so that's the number closer to the current situation. Is the fat lady singing?
For those of you concerned about the polls pushing the undecideds, the undecideds will be pushed by the real poll on Nov 2nd.
It's still a long time until November. Remember what Hunter S. Thompson wrote in Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail." Polls are nothing more than a snapshot of the time period in which they're conducted.
It's the trend that is important, and although the polls are trending Bush's way right now, the slope of the curve is not very steep.
No need to worry. We just need to work harder. Get out and register some dem voters. Write a letter to the editor.Talk to your friends. Do some doorbelling.
panic doesn't set in unless kerry shows up to the debate wearing "cowboy chaps" and red lipstick
the rest is the normal chain of events for a challenger taking on an incumbent president
BWAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Usamabinlazy
That's my BWWAA HAA-ing and it's copyrighted. You're only allowed BWWA HAA-ing if it's all lowercase.
OT: Josh quotes another on-the-scene reporter on the boopalooza thing. Seems to be saying Karen Huge shouldn't be screaming at reporters she thinks got it all wrong. Big surprise, him being a reporter and all (not JMM, the AP dude), but imagine the parties being reversed. Wouldn't we want someone on his/her toes to confront a reporter who gets something about the Two Johnnies way wrong? We be wasting a lot of bandwidth on this yawner. Yeah, mea culpa, too. Saturday morning, I got nothing else better to do? Think I'll jump on the tractor and go move some dirt around.
patriotboy, my brutha!
quoting hunter in this place is going to drop our rethug buddies into a psychotropically induced hallucinogenic rage
they are more afraid of the polls than the kerry camp is, trust me -- and the electoral potential against key issues doesn't favor the preznut, at least this time around
the slope of the curve is not very steep in hunter-speak, a circus rube probably has more brains than the non-rich and fundamental contingent of bobo's base
RE: these polls:
We've all learned that the ones that matter are the state polls.
Go look at the latest state-by-state polls, and you'll notice that in no state does Kerry have a lead of 20 points or more - while Bush does in several states (if I recall correctly, OK, AL, GA, SC and perhaps TX).
The entire convention was played to these states and their known biases. If the sample was collected based on population, i.e., number of people polled in a given state or region is proportional to that state or region's percentage of the electorate, then probably 20%, perhaps a bit more, of this sample would come from these states. It definitely would tend to skew the poll to suggest an inaccurate electoral outcome. Compound that with the flawed methodology of asking to speak to men, and you could skew a poll significantly.
Listen to your common sense. It's telling you that you don't know any Gore voters planning to vote Bush, but you do know Bush voters that won't be voting for him again. But just to be sure, get out there and register voters, give rides to the polls, do whatever you can to turn out at least one more voter for Kerry. If everyone who is completely horrified by the thought of watching this country irretrievably lost will do the same, there's a landslide for Kerry out there.
re: Cambodia
Kerry never said "President Nixon". He said "the President".
So true I had to post it again Jennifer...
"Listen to your common sense. It's telling you that you don't know any Gore voters planning to vote Bush, but you do know Bush voters that won't be voting for him again."
So true I am NOT going to be listening to ANY polls until I head to them in November. I suggest you all do the same.
Nah, it's over.
Working the refs in living color.
From Josh Marshall:
A little more on the boo-a-rama, from a reporter on the scene ...
Karen Hughes went totally apesh-t at the AP when that dispatch hit the wire.
She stormed up the bleachers and starting screaming at the AP writer (who took it in stride). "They didn't boo! Were you and I in the same rally! What is this crap?" or something along those lines (it was loud in there). The AP writer then canvassed his colleagues, who all said they hadn't heard any boos.
Say what you want about McClellan ("dreadful briefer," "talking points only"), I don't think he's ever screamed at a reporter.
Working the refs in living color.
It worked. AP dropped the part about the "boos."
He's lucky Hughes didn't kick his ass.
mumphrey,
I don't agree. Babysitting can make a huge difference. Lots of people in this country have a difficult time getting to the polls. They don't have a car, have to work several jobs, have family responsibilities that make it difficult for them to get to the polls and stand in line.
I firmly believe that this election, if it isn't stolen, will be won by the side that turns out the most voters. The Republicans must agree with me, because they're doing everything that they can to stifle voter turnout.
If everyone on this board offered to babysit so that a harried mom could get to the polls and stand in line without worrying about keeping her kids occupied and quiet and trying to figure out how to vote with a baby in her arms and another one clinging to her legs, Kerry could win.
If everyone on this board offered to drive some old people to the polls so they didn't have to stand out in the cold at a bus stop and then walk several blocks to their polling place, Kerry could win.
If everyone on this board told their secretary, nanny, or co-worker to go ahead and vote while they covered for them, Kerry could win.
If you don't like to babysit and want to do other things, that's fine, too. But have you figured out a way to get three other people to the polls along with you?
Of course the chain of command will deny that Kerry was in Cambodia, that would be illegal! Among the many, many illegal things done by any government in any war, and the Great White Hope of America is no different. The right is always going on about the "Blame America Firsters", but history records the following 3 events: 1) only the U.S. has dropped the atomic bomb on civilians, 2) the U.S. invaded Vietnam, absolutely no threat of any kind to us, 3) the U.S. invaded Iraq, another nation that was absolutely no threat to us, except in the fevered imaginations of the Koolaid drinkers (see above re: Usama) who needed an excuse to practice killing people who are different, including the least productive, most fucked-up president in modern American history. As in the Repig convention, there is no truth or logic to their claims, only the shameless emotionalism of the brainwashed and unthinking. No matter how bad Kerry may or may not be, he cannot begin to be equated to right-wing, fundamentalist flat-earthers who follow any good yarn spun for them by their feckless and psychopathic "leadership".
Hectate,
Absolutely. The little things add up. We have to do every thing we can to win this thing. You know the conservative churhes will be giving rides. We need to match them.
Question: how do the polls account for the large numbers of people on travel the last half of August?
If everyone on this board told their secretary, nanny, or co-worker to go ahead and vote while they covered for them, Kerry could win.
all of my employees are let loose for the day as long as they vote - it should be a national holiday (heck, don't we already give them president's day?)
i want folks energenized and ready!
I personally don't think W is behind the not-so-Swifties. Rove on the hand ...
did some work with our black caucus friends the other night - especially the hip hop crowd, who are actually saying they are going to vote this time (and the zell miller thing scared the shit out of them, one told me, "now I know my uncle wasn't lying when he spoke about jim crow in the Old South"
rethugs, you have no idea how damaging that speech was; many of these kids believe that a military draft is coming and they don't want to go to a phony war like their family members did in (guess what?) vietnam!
the recommendation to our friends in the caucus? vote in packs and bring your picture phones and video cameras; at the first sign of harrassment, start taking pictures, names and video; do not back down
The Newsweek poll suffers from the exact same methodology as the Time Poll and the CREEPS hoped to arrive at the convention with Kerry DOA and now they are just manipulating the media --the ap fake story which did not mention Zogby or ARG polls all done at the same time show a much different result --isn't it odd that the only polls being reported are the ones with the fake numbers?
The only fat lady singing is Barbara Bush trying to turn up the volumn so people won't hear the truth about her idiot son
I personally don't think W is behind the not-so-Swifties. Rove on the hand ...
oh yeah, this is Rove's other arm, the one that's not up W's ass.
yer crackin me up, pal.
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. Bush is as much behind it as Rove. That was a stupid statement.
I volunteer to scream at AP reporters and anyone else on behalf of the Kerry Campaign --it seems to work for the Bush campaign
It is a UCMJ offense to wear a medal that you have not earned.
That can be fixed in three minutes by executive order.
Yawn.
I volunteer to scream at AP reporters and anyone else on behalf of the Kerry Campaign --it seems to work for the Bush campaign
No Mary Left Behind
Like Hughes insisting to Tucker Carlson that Bush didn't curse after Carlson had been hearing him curse. These really are strange days.
You know they were booing.
A shot a Tucker Faye --it would be my pleasure to give him some of my unfiltered opinion of his unthoughtful and unfactual garbage
I volunteer to scream at AP reporters and anyone else on behalf of the Kerry Campaign --it seems to work for the Bush campaign
I volunteer to challenge reporters to a duel.
Hey, that's a mighty purdy sheep you have there.
U.S. Close to capturing bin Laden
U.S. counter-terrorism spokesperson says "We're just sitting by the phone waiting for Karl's phone call with the go-ahead"
Like Hughes insisting to Tucker Carlson that Bush didn't curse after Carlson had been hearing him curse.
it ain't "in vain" if the Lord does what you tell him to.
This comment from John Sweeney of the AFL-CIO:
He [Bush] promised to create five million new jobs, and so far he's six million short.
isn't it odd that the only polls being reported are the ones with the fake numbers
Not odd at all considering we now have a state-run media (SRM).
U.S. counter-terrorism spokesperson says "We're just sitting by the phone waiting for Karl's phone call with the go-ahead"
elkal
I can't take it anymore.
The skipper is obviously very resolute. Just like the lead lemming, when he leads you off the cliff.
U.S. Close to capturing bin Laden
oh yeah, we've been following the truck that delivers the dialysis machine supplies for two years now, we're bound to get him within a few days.
That Newsweek poll demonstrates that by Friday the RNC had solidified the Republican base. That's about it.
There seems to be a big push to prematurely proclaim that Bush has a 'bounce.' A true bounce wouldn't show up the day after a convention. Look at Kerry's bounce. It built up over a week or two after the DNC.
I suspect that what they are really seeing is an anti-bounce, but don't want the public to see it. Don't forget the reaction to Zealot Miller. That couldn't have helped the Republicans.
This business of using a methodology to ask for males in the household is naked evidence of manipulation. See this article by Norman Solomon.
oh yeah, we've been following the truck that delivers the dialysis machine supplies for two years now, we're bound to get him within a few days
Made me laugh out loud on my conference call! 
Does anyone else here have Comcast Digital Cable?
I just received a message (via the cable box) about a special offer--I can watch all the RNC speeches "On Demand" for free.
We were not home during the DNC, so my question is, did Comcast make a similar offer for the Democratic speeches?
If not, is this in any sort of conflict with election law?
(It would be nice to think that the RNC speeches have been made available for free because they're so terrible and thus likely to hurt the right-wing cause. But I doubt it.)
all of my employees are let loose for the day as long as they vote - it should be a national holiday (heck, don't we already give them president's day?
Rock & Roll my friend. That's exemplary.
Alas, I doubt we'll ever see a national holiday to vote. The repukes will never stand for that as it doesn't suit them to have big turnouts. And the Dems are too lily-livered to force the issue when we're in control.
We were not home during the DNC, so my question is, did Comcast make a similar offer for the Democratic speeches?
yes, they did.
Usamabinlazy:
Don't forget Christine Todd Whitman (as in former Republican governor of NJ, former head of EPA for W) said her husband was in Cambodia at Christamstime with Kerry.
Two can play --my ad suggestion for the day --direct mail or email gossip
What about the Marys Mary Cheney and what happened her?
MARY MATALIN from 2000
The GOP also sent Republican strategist Mary Matalin of CNN's Crossfire program around town with a message of Republican gay inclusiveness.
Following a Log Cabin Republicans/Gay & Lesbian Victory
Fund/Human Rights Campaign reception for 300 Republican politicos and gay delegates and activists, Matalin told this reporter: "The epiphany for me is that people have some objection to
homosexuality. They say it somehow hurts the traditional family.
How? I'm advocating what I know to be the conservative
philosophy. If you respect the individual, if you're about
individual liberties and freedoms and all that stuff, you can't say, 'Except for that group or except for that person.' It's just so unjust and so unfair and so illogical. Illogic and unfairness offend me."
Matalin added that she favors gay marriage "because it's
logical."
"You want to reduce promiscuity, you want to enhance stability -- duh, marriage, OK?" she said.
Gays have felt unwelcome in the Republican party, Matalin said, because "we shut them out. We turned out our hearts. That can happen no more -- that the loud voice of a few suffocates the big voice of the many," she said. "Our gathering here [at this reception] does mark, hopefully permanently, the end of the culture-wars rhetoric."
And point out they did not fight very hard for the constitutional amendment and that Cheney was making all these counter statements.
Bush is just using these issues because he thinks there are more Fundamentalist voters although it was not the case in 2000. Make the Christian community doubt Bush will do anything for him. They need to hold out for Zmell (well kidding about the last line)
link to source on the Matalin quote
in the homepage
Alas, I doubt we'll ever see a national holiday to vote. The repukes will never stand for that as it doesn't suit them to have big turnouts.
Kennedy Space Center shut down and sent everyone home (or inland) Thursday morning.
Wonder if everyone was safely ensconced in front of a TV set for Chimpy's speech.
Oops my bad -- Whitman only said they were on a Swift boat going up the river at Christmas. No specific reference to Cambodia.
But they both remember being in the boat...and isn't Cambodia, ummm, sort of CLOSE to Vietnam?
Wonder if everyone was safely ensconced in front of a TV set for Chimpy's speech.
No shit? Isn't that special? That is not surprising as Junior wants to send a man to the moon again and then to Mars.
Which would be a big god damn boon to NASA, obviously.
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BUSH SAYS NO TO 'PRIDE' PROCLAMATIONS, BUT PERMITS CELEBRATIONS
In what appears to be a calculated political strategy to please both pro-family voters and practicing homosexuals alike, the Bush administration refuses to proclaim June as 'gay pride' month, but permits departmental celebrations of homosexual activism.
You can be gay you just cannot be proud of it.
and back to the past
Bush/Matalin gay marriage 2004Mary, 35, is a lesbian, a slightly awkward reality for a family identified with conservative family values. An M.B.A., she helped the Coors Brewing Co. handle a boycott by the gay community. (Gay-rights activists have targeted Mary, putting her face on a milk carton to pressure her to use her influence inside the Bush administration.) Last week, when the Senate voted down a resolution calling for a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage, Lynne Cheney spoke up to say that the issue should be a matter for the states to decide. Her remark was interpreted by some media outlets as breaking with the president, who had pushed the gay-marriage ban. Not so, says Matalin. "She was really carefully, artfully calibrating not to part with the president" while at the same time being "cognizant" of her role as a mother.
OT -
I just heard on CNN that they shut LAX down for 2 separate incidents. One of which was a person walking up the down escalator.
I shit you not.
both primary and general election days are state holidays in WV.
Why do people who walk up the down escalator hate America? Oh right, because of our freedoms.
and finally
Mary Matalin
on Kerry
Kerry has left no footprint on Capitol Hill. "What's he done?" asks Mary Matalin, a Bush campaign adviser. "He's been on the Hill forever, and what does he have to show for it?"
And what about you Mary--you are a liar and pimp for Bush. If you really believed that you hoped the hate was gone as you said in 2000 -
you seem to have become a pretty active member of the most hateful group of people and ones who certainly reversed themselves on gay rights.
In what appears to be a calculated political strategy to please both pro-family voters and practicing homosexuals alike, the Bush administration refuses to proclaim June as 'gay pride' month, but permits departmental celebrations of homosexual activism.
What about non-practicing homosexuals? Or is that like practicing to be a homosexual?
The people they should be after are the ones who walk slow on the left-hand side of those people-mover thingies. Now those are the ones who are hell-bent on destroying us.
I just heard on CNN that they shut LAX down for 2 separate incidents. One of which was a person walking up the down escalator.
When cheap idiots keep old batteries in a flashlight and they blow up, the terrorists have won.
When retards go up the wrong way on an escalator, the terrorists have already won.
I feel like I'm always walking up the down-escalator.
"What's he done?" asks Mary Matalin, a Bush campaign adviser. "He's been on the Hill forever, and what does he have to show for it?"
now, now, she's just asking the question. We shouldn't be testy about giving her an answer:
A WHOLE FUCKLOAD MORE THAN BIG TIME DICK, THAT'S WHAT.
When retards go up the wrong way on an escalator, the terrorists have already won.
hey, don't knock it until you've tried it. it's good exercise.
Send Richard Simmons to Gitmo!!!
"What's he done?" asks Mary Matalin, a Bush campaign adviser. "He's been on the Hill forever, and what does he have to show for it?"
When Mark Sanford ran for Governor, Ds asked that question and the Rs said it wasn't his job to introduce legislation just vote on it. But to answer the question, wasn't Kerry involved in discovering the Iran-Contra scandal to some "small" degree.
Even his fellow Canadians (like myself) hate Mark Steyn. Don't listen to a word he says.
John Kerry, Iran Contra, and BCCI:
http://
www.washingtonmonthly.com...409.sirota.html
I think Richard Simmons might be a non-practicing homosexual.
Bill Frist would probably be a non-practicing heterosexual.
This comment from John Sweeney of the AFL-CIO:
He [Bush] promised to create five million new jobs, and so far he's six million short.
aReader
I'm really worried. What is the Bush team going to do to prevent the economy from overheating when six millon jobs are created in the next two months?
Couldn't they have created all those jobs more gradually, say a few hundred thousand a month over the past four years? I've read that Bush has a tendency to put off tasks until the last minute, but this is ridiculous.
What if instead of anal sex you only had annual sex--would that make you a semi-non-practicing homosexual?
Shorter Bush crony to storm victims: drop dead!
hey, if the state hadn't intervened with a reinsurance pool and permitted percentage deductibles, most of these people likely would not be able to buy any kind of storm insurance today, and the Bush brothers would be looking at two alternatives at this point: either a massive federal bailout, or truly telling the little guy to get fucked.
Any doubt in your mind what would have happened? Especially given that Jeb probably doesn't even need to buy elections any more?
Bill Frist would probably be a non-practicing heterosexual.
hey, at least he can maintain a straight face.
Mitch McConnell's shit-eating grin looks worse every time I see him. Friggin baboon.
"WTF? Newsweek now too. I don't trust any of these polls."
To paraphrase the Bard; "The fault lies not within all the polls, but within John Fibber Kerry."
Or as Comic Book Guy would say "Worst -Democrat candidate - ever."
Toodles.
John Fibber Kerry - what are his lies there, Karen? You don't know, do you? You just repeat some BS generated by another with no knowledge of their veracity, right? You still don't know the answer to the Silver Star question, do you?
With the polls showing Bush ahead by 11 points, nobody should be surprised when the voting machines show him a winner.
The Republican's way of thinking with the unemployed and uninsured is that they should hold personal responsibility for their unfortunate circumstances. So...in that line of thinking, shouldn't this Administration's response to Floridians be "you chose to live in Hurricane country. You deal with your loses yourself. Take personal responsibility for your unfortunate circumstance."
And..wait...isn't FEMA supported by taxpayer money? I thought Bush didn't believe in collecting taxes for running Government programs.
What if instead of anal sex you only had annual sex--would that make you a semi-non-practicing homosexual?
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No,...A Republican.
Noodles, saying John Kerry is a poor candidate is just laughable. And so I am laughing.
Wait until you see how Buish's presidencey is regarded by historians. It's going to be a brutal lesson for you, I guess.
It's time to elect a president who possesses intelligence, honor, and dignity. Past time to boot the
Worst. President. Ever.
This comment from John Sweeney of the AFL-CIO:
He [Bush] promised to create five million new jobs, and so far he's six million short.
aReader
I'm really worried. What is the Bush team going to do to prevent the economy from overheating when six millon jobs are created in the next two months?
Couldn't they have created all those jobs more gradually, say a few hundred thousand a month over the past four years? I've read that Bush has a tendency to put off tasks until the last minute, but this is ridiculous.
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Oviously "trickle down" didn't happen.
Tax breaks for the wealthy did not work.
Like everything else *Bush*, it was a failure.
Oh, Ms. Schmell,
Fibber? Now that's cute. did you make that up all by your lonesome? I bet it took the better part of two weeks for you to stimulate that Le Sueur-sized pea brain of yours to generate that witticism.
Lord, honey, you need to get back to the valium and the vodka, as you are clearly on the edge.
Tittles.
Wheres the fleet btw? Seven battle ready carriers at sea for over two months now
I don't know who the owner is, but I bet the crew is these guys.
Dame Schmell - full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
Exeunt
If anybody's interested in the real background and denouement of the yacht story:
The guy who was hired to babysit the boat had taken it to open water and anchored it and was expecting to be able to ride out the hurricane. He had one crew member, a woman.
First both anchors came loose; then he lost an engine (the one used to steer the boat). The yacht was adrift.
It was being blown up what they call the intercoastal waterway between Palm Beach and West Palm Beach, heading for either a cement wall or a drawbridge a little farther on (the drawbridges were all down and locked, the folks manning them gone). If the yacht had hit either, it would probably have been a goner, and it could have done a lot of damage to the bridge as well.
Somehow, after several tries, this guy and his mate managed to maneuver the disabled boat--while it was being blown and tossed around like crazy--out of harm's way and get it reanchored and tied up to the dock at the local yacht club (where it may suffer additional damage, but at least it's not loose in the waterway). The first time he got a line around a post, the wind was so fierce the post ripped right out of the ground.
It was absolutely hair-raising to watch. People who know about these things were quoted on CNN as saying it was a near-impossible feat. Why the guy wasn't thrown off the wildly pitching deck as he was trying to get the line hitched to something stable, I have no idea.
There was one other, smaller (I think) yacht and a sailboat also loose in the waterway; I didn't see what happened to them.
"Don't be a Hurricane Frances GIRLY MAN!"
I did my best Lord. I stopped buying Florida orange juice in 2000. I guess you didn't think it was enough, huh. Sorry.
They tried to be more like Fox that failed, so they decided to steal the Weather Channel's schtick. CNN is so horribly bad. I wish they'd fold already. Cowards die a thousand deaths.
CNN just reports: The boat is gone.
I hope the same cannot be said of the crew.
Just a thought with an analogy with hurricanes. Anyone else notice how cunning and shrewd the Bush team is at getting elected, and then once in office, they cant accomplish a damn thing? The perfect storm of American politics.
at least this gives CNN a chance to shut up about kidnappings for a while.
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