I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
P.S. Jesus loves you!
The Macabbies? What are those, Scottish taxi drivers?
Why are stupid people so dumb? And why are there so many of them living in this country?
Frist!
It's frist!
see, someone is going to get hurt.
and i assure you freeptoids not even jesus would forgive what you do.
President George? all hail the George.
Jebus!
Heh. Idots.
That might be this year's 'preznit giv me turkee' right here.
A fun game to play: asking religious folk how, exactly, Bush's policies embody the teachings of jeebus. They gape at you; it's a hoot.
Downriver girl read my mind ... 
"President George shall win, for we are kicking ass and taking names."
Not exactly biblical--is there a citation?
And is it true that "the whole world" reads Atrios? Wow.
Proud to be an Idot.
Rove forged the memos. Pass it on.
To find a culprit, look who benefits.
Rememeber what Jesus did for the Macabbies?
Umm, no. What did Jesus do for the Macabies?
Just a reminder - Bush's pedophilia, homosexuality, bestiality, drug addiction, and alcoholism are private matters that we should not be talking about.
All of this happened over five years ago so it just does not matter. Who cares if Bush's special back rubs from his roommate went a little further? And on the abortion, at least he paid for it.
obviously the work of robert novak
wait... isn't CBS standing by the 'rather papers?'
isn't the fact that these 'wingers are shreiking forgery is because they can't handle the truth the W. was AWOL?
I've said it before, and I'll say it again - one of these days these people are going to have to acknowledge the red coked up elephant in the room.
The Children of the Corn are WATCHING us.
WATCHING.
WATCHING.
My question: what happens when Bush loses?
Will these wack jobs be emotionally capable of handling such an immense shock wave to their creepy belief system?
And what if they can't? Then what?
What great terror will be unleashed in this country?
Food for thought.
Is our freepers learning? - Guess not.
Oh who gives a rat's ass about the "forged memos." Shrub was AWOL.
"Dear Sir, Sirs, Madam or Madams.
I sincerely appreciate your insane interest in my website. I fully welcome your raging psychobabble and religious misinterpretations.
However, I would appreciate it if you could forumalte complete sentences and coherent thoughts in your angry e-mails. They are far more entertaining to read when I have the slightest idea what the hell you are talking about.
Love,
- Atrios"
That's how I'd respond, but that's just me ^_^
As a former Chicagoan, I know Idot is the Illinois Department of Transportation.
I once had an apartment next to the Kennedy expressway. It was kinda fun watching the giant IDOT tow trucks herding errant motorists. Mostly it reminded me of watching cowboys herd cattle.
And that big Budweiser sign was (is?) awesome!
It was my night light.
iDots - new from Apple Computers.
Idots, you say!
Check out the new Newsweek poll - Bush's numbers are plummeting! The Bush Campaign is in freefall!! Insert Sam Kinison scream here!!!
"The sudden shift in the NEWSWEEK poll from last week’s results is dramatic but not unprecedented-in 1988 Michael Dukakis’s 17-point lead dropped to 10 points within two weeks."
Can't wait to see how much airplay this one gets! !!!
Idots forever! Moonbats too! Wheeeee!
My question: what happens when Bush loses?
Will these wack jobs be emotionally capable of handling such an immense shock wave to their creepy belief system?
And what if they can't? Then what?
What great terror will be unleashed in this country
mat --
If Bush loses, at least they will be well armed, thanks to the Brady Law expiration. Think about that.
og
Dam it Mat, can't you get anything right? They are Children of the KERN.
I hope he's a legacy; otherwise he won't get into Yale.
I guess he went to one of those Baptist madrassas, Jesus is Generallismo Junior High. Just out of curiosity, ever notice how Bush's buds, the Saudi Arabian elite, bankrolls those madrassas that tell people that the world and riches are evul so blow yourself real good. I wonder if the reason they support these terrorist schools is because it convinces the discontened poor to go off and kill themselves and leave the rich Saudi elite alone. After all, the elite is not exactly living like the Amish. Many of them jet off to Paris and clean-out Chanel and Dior. And I wonder if Bush envies them. Nothing like turning your poor folk into suicidal Puritans who think material things are bad and never seem to notice that you are living la dolce vita in your palatial compound.
Assuming that the memos are bogus (I think they are), what is the most likely explanation? Here's what we know: existence of the Ben Barnes interview was discussed about a week or so before it actually aired. Sometime before it aired, CBS "obtained" these memos, did some minimal research to corroborate them, and appended this story to the Ben Barnes interview. Net effect: the alleged (or actual) bogosity of the memos has totally defused the impact of the Ben Barnes interview. Once again: what is the most likely explanation? Some zealot armed with MS Word and fueled with excessive irrational Bush hatred? Or, the best PR Billions can Buy?
We're kicking ass and making more terrorists.
False witness? Uhhh, ever heard of a group called the Swift Vets?
Bush is an incompetent bloodthirsty chimp. I've been reading Juan Cole, and I think if Bush is re-elected we're looking at a new military draft, a war with Iran, and an economic crisis due to military costs and further tax cuts. Anyone who argues for Bush at this point is seeking to destroy America's future.
Those morans are real idots.
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"How about kicking the money changers out of the temple?"
Back in the late sixties, during one of my court visits where an assistant prosecutor for the feds tried to talk me out of continuing to resist induction into the military, he used the money changers story as an example of how "violence" was ok by Jesus.
I tried to convince him it was not the same as bombing and napalming villages.
Didn't manage to convince him and he didn't get me to stop resisting induction.
The Real Third Party Challenge Isn't Nader!
Yesterday, we heard that Ralph Nader would not in fact be on Florida's ballot in November. I need not remind you that Nader's presence on the ballot four years ago drastically affected the race for the state's electoral votes.
Today, we hear that Nader will not be on the ballot of another key swing state: Arizona.
Nominees for the three other minor parties (Libertarian Party Nominee Michael Badnarik is on 44 state ballots, Constitution Party Nominee Michael Peroutka is on 35 state ballots, and Green Party Nominee David Cobb is on 28 state ballots to Nader's 23) could realistically get more votes and thus have more of an effect on the race as Nader.
much more on the story here
Rabbi Jesus was a time traveller? Like, wow ...
The PDB is not the only daily briefing prepared. Senior members of the intellignece community are also given a daily Senior Executive Intelligence Brief, or SEIB. The SEIB is circulated to roughly 300 people, including the Senate Intelligence Committee. As a general rule, the SEIB covers the same developments as the President's Daily Brief.
The August 6 SEIB, however, did not. While the PDB contained a number of paragraphs of contemporary intelligence at its conclusion, the SEIB, consistent with the PDB in all other respects, OMITTED(my emphasis) those paragraphs. As a result, Congress and other senior intelligence officials were left ignorant of the chilling information about the potential attacks. These people were therefore unable to correct erroneous information or ACT on information that would have surely rung ALARM BELLS had they seen it.
From Intelligence Matters Pg 83
QuentinCompson, how's your son doing?
Illinois Department of Transportation
?
Or maybe a close relative of the teecross?
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Well hell, I'm having a fine, fine evening alone with the missus, thankee kindly....
chris/tx:
I agree - wait I don't agree. All GWB's past alcohol/cocaine/abortion transgressions are fair game.
But not as important as his current drinking problem. Too bad. Conquering alcohol was his only achievement, and now he's fucked that up, too.
Now Jenna's abortion - that is off limits.
We should not talk about Jenna's abortion. Ever. Stop. Stop talking about Jenna's abortion.
Tomorrow I will check back to be sure nobody is mentioning Jenna's abortion.
I will probably have to post another warning tomorrow. About Jenna's abortion, I mean.
novakula and kate fucking o'beirne taking the predictable positions on the killian docs. o'beirne trying to argue that there is no evidence that bush skipped out on the guard.
disingenous cunt.
but the shocking thing here is mark shields stating that there is "evidence on both sides".
CNN, I fear, is beyond hope.
is this site always this much fun?
Maybe a cocktail, a good movie.....
I think Apple is coming out with a tin-foil version of iPod called the iDot.
Is plays MP3's of right-wing rants over and over again. The menus are in all CAPS.
Dear Atros,
Your request for smarter monkes has been dened.
Love,
pixe
Take the poll at the link here kitty provided.
Y'all know what to do.
Things get alittle fuzzy for Atrios after 5:00.
Ah hell, I'm gonna radish my baby, that's right, no typos here, I said radish.....
gotta get rid of these cats though, here kitty, kitty......
Bunnypants,
yup. Usually.
Texmenbashi, this was Mark Shields on NewsHour last night:
MARK SHIELDS: I think that the president's credentials as commander in chief do not rest upon, and the Republicans are grateful, for his on again/off again service in the Texas Air National Guard - I mean, they are. It's the last four years, there's no doubt about it. But I think what's not in dispute is that the president, you know, did not obey the direct order to show up for a physical, a mandated physical for all pilots. It's always been an area of curiosity. I mean, I have never known any pilot who voluntarily gave up his or her license to fly. I know people in their 70s, 80s who are still flying. That's just intriguing. I mean, what was it in the physical he was afraid of that might show up? I just think that the only potential political fallout is one of candor. That's all. Whether, in fact, the president has been candid.
It's getting crowded in the shallow end of the gene pool.
Thought Jesus didn't believe in kicking asses and taking names....
The Donkey - Thanks for your support and totally agree nobody should talk about Jenna's abortion, and for that matter, Laura running over her old boyfriend a week after he dumped her.
And to the people looking at why Bush did volunteer work at project PULL, please stop now.
Hey, that Mark Shields, looks like he grew a little teste......coming dear...
Dam it Mat, can't you get anything right? They are Children of the KERN.
bo | Email | Homepage | 09.11.04 - 7:30 pm | #
Thanks a lot, man. I just blew a half-a-pipe's worth of decent middie onto my keyboard. And you drinkers think you got it tough...
Those morans are real idots.
I tell you, brother, many, many done tunkalow parzen.
wtf is middie????
Idots forever! Moonbats too! Wheeeee!
And this is one of the smarter Bush supporters.
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Children of the Kern; beautiful. "Seize the interloper!"
must have been decent if you laughed at that! ;^)
killian schmillian. since when can a lieutenant unilaterally decide not to take a physical? insubordination, anyone?
also, bartlett has admitted that bush never sought out a guard unit in Mass as he had agreed to do; doesn't that mean that bush didn't fulfill his duty to the guard as he so often says he did, making bush a lying sack of shit? okay, that's a rhetorical question.
Aha!
idots
.... subliminabul advertising.
How fiendishly clever ...
wtf is middie????
the kid | Email | Homepage | 09.11.04 - 7:42 pm | #
Decent weed. "Dank" is the sweet stuff, and "shwag" is the stuff you smoke and it feels like a mule kicked you in the lungs. "Middie" is the stuff you get for $25 a quarter. We're poor boys in this household, so we have to maximize out pot dollar.
Pie, he's doing ok, thanks. One of the seven Marines who took it hard last weekend was a peer of his, "a good man who will be missed".
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A POEM THAT I WROTE IN A HIGH FEVER
You who are lengthening your lives
with the best doctors and the best medicines
remember those who are shortening their lives
with the wars
that you in your long lives are not
preventing.
You who are again screwing
the younger generations
and winking at each other
the winking of your eyelids
is like the chill of the swinging shutters
in an empty house.
-- Yehuda Amichai
(translated from the Hebrew by Leon Wieseltier)
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I want a "Moonbat" t-shirt.
from the Newsweek poll (heh):
If John Kerry is elected president in November, do you think this country would be MORE vulnerable or LESS vulnerable to a terrorist attack than it would be if George W. Bush is re-elected? * 5305 web responses
RESPONSES WEB NEWSWEEK MAGAZINE
More vulnerable 20% 38%
Less vulnerable 48% 20%
About as vulnerable 30% 35%
Don't know 1% 7%
Hey, that Mark Shields, looks like he grew a little teste......coming dear...
People who watch NewsHour don't write emails like the one posted. I'm not evn sure they watch CNN, but it's interesting to compare and contrast the two Shield's *performances*.
Jenna's abortion? Omigod!!! You're a lie! Are you sure its not Not-Jenna? Will it be in KK's book?
Can't wait for THIS one to hit the fan!
EEEEEEEE-hah!
W -- THE SECOND GAY PRESIDENT!!!
What in the world is this person talking about Jesus doing for the Machabees? Only the first and second chapters machabees are in my bible. I don't remember them having anything to do with Jesus...clearly I missed that part of bible study.
What in the world is this person talking about Jesus doing for the Machabees? Only the first and second chapters machabees are in my bible. I don't remember them having anything to do with Jesus...clearly I missed that part of bible study.
Argh. Shields'
Dude! I want a "Moonbat" shirt, too! That'd be cool. People would say, "Matt, what's a 'moonbat'?" and I'd say, "It's what raging assholes call people they don't like online even though they wouldn't have the guts to do similar in real life".
o.t. but my roomie was just doing the N.Y Times crossword and one of the clues was who succeeded Sen. Stennis. I cheated and googled and the third entry sent me to (shudder) freerepublic-bullshit about vets against the war (Kerry) and a plot to kill senators who were vietnam hawks. Tin foil firmly in place, are we going to be hearing this crap on Rush, Faux, etc. in the next week?
Shields brings up a good point: If you learned to fly, and were allowed to fly fighter jets, and all you needed to do to keep flying fighter jets (which would've gotten you babes galore, and would really be cool as hell to do, even you pacifists here should agree) was to take a medical exam -- well, why would you blow that off? Did Bush get tired of flying? Did he see no reason to continue?
is are children kerning?
meanwhile atrios must have gotten into his middie as well, he's snuck in two more posts.
New Posts! New Posts! Everyone move up two! [/Mad Hatter]
I've always found it helpful to learn the local vernacular, musn't be rude when offered some dank dont'cha know....
Now the middie?....not so sure...
I'd have to agree that to continue to discuss Jenna Bush's abortion that Jenna Bush recently had to get performed on herself, that is, the abortion that Jenna Bush got, well, to discuss that specific abortion of Jenna Bush's would be totally irresponsible of us to discuss Jenna Bush's abortion at this time.
I've always found it helpful to learn the local vernacular, musn't be rude when offered some dank dont'cha know....
the kid | Email | Homepage | 09.11.04 - 7:49 pm | #
Hell no...as Eddie Spaghetti says, a friend with weed is a friend indeed.
Thanks, Atrios-
I needed that.
Damned Macabbies! I hate those kilt wearing taxi drivers.
(Anybody else think Jonah Goldberg and the Macabbies would be a great name for a band?)
Now the middie?....not so sure...
the kid | Email | Homepage | 09.11.04 - 7:52 pm | #
Like I said, these are tough times and smokers can't be choosers.
Applebees or Maccabbies. Which is it?
I don't remember Jesus having done anything in particular for Applebees, though I could be wrong.
Thanks, Atrios-
I needed that.
Damned Macabbies! I hate those kilt wearing taxi drivers.
(Anybody else think Jonah Goldberg and the Macabbies would be a great name for a band?)
It's sad you see, but I think the word our little Christian soldier is grasping for is Sadducee. Or maybe Pharisee.
If he had actually paid attention during Bible study, he might realize that Sadducees and Pharisees are alive and well in the Republican party as Fundamentalists and neo-cons.
America's Nemesis - name this troll. I vote for the name stealer.
I, for one, am proud to be an IDOT.....
chris/tx is correct. We should lay off Laura Bush. She's only killed one person, as far as we know.
Instead we should concentrate on her movie career.
Fuckin a, backslider..
Off to tend to my darlin, have a fine, fine night all...
The Donkey,
Now that's funny.
Hey everybody, sundance channel has "unprecedented", about the 2000 election, I'm gonna settle in for this..
Assuming that the memos are bogus (I think they are)
Stop there. In light of previous performances, why "assume" that a freeper knows anything? You would be playing the odds to "assume" that Bush supporters are lying every time.
Remember, the "refutation" hit the 'net within seconds of the airing of the program, and even the "expert" who comented based on what he could see on his monitor has backed off and acknowledged that there is nothing to suggest they could not have been produced when Bush was in the TANG.
The "new" documents have exactly the same type characteristics as most of the other documents already released, and no one has claimed forgery on those.
So if the pile of "official" documents previously released by the White House are not forged, and the new ones look identical, where's the beef?
Look for a copy to be made soon (as an experiment) on a 1972 IBM that has all the same characteristics. Of course, then the freepers, and suckers like you, will say, if you could make that TODAY on an old Selectric, maybe they ARE recent! Documented evidence isn't much good in the face of fanaticism.
I don't care if Bush was AWOL.
I don't care if the corporations take all my tax dollars and waste it on yahts and hookers.
I don't care if Bush is an idiot.
I don't care if Cheney is a fascist.
I don't care if the republicans force me to worship Jesus against my will.
I don't care if they force me to engage in missionary sex only and even then just for procreation.
As long as Bush allows me to shoot at niggers then he's all right in my book.
'bout time!
Long live the Confederacy!! We waited and waited and now we're going to have our revenge on you east coast faggots!!
Chances are the person was home schooled.
MYOB'
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Believe it or not, but I car pool with three republicans...The worst Bush apologist is a woman in denial who was carping about the memos being forgeries...After her rant, I made two statements: I believe Bush received preferential treatment in getting into the TANG and was appointed ahead of hundreds of more qualified people...And why did Bush refuse to take his physical and stop flying?...There was immediate silence the rest of the way home...No replies, nothing...
down here we call it the kryptonite you know the green stuff that renders superman powerless, oh but wait that goes for a hundred a qauter. maybe one day i'll be able to afford the finest green...
marijuana laws suck. fer chris sakes it's a fuck'n weed, if it were legal i could have some cool ass plants, smoke for free, and they are some cool looking plants.
Please stop mentioning that Jenna had an abortion. Because if Jenna had an abortion that would be bad news. I don't want to think that Jenna had an abortion.
Great now I can't get the fact that Jenna had an abortion out of my mind.
That's just great.
That idiotic post sounds like Malochai from "Children of the Corn" is tripping out on acid while cruising the Internet.
The Donkey
Anything you read about a Jenna abortion was planted by the right to expose how eager the left is to jump on any rumor that might be bad for George W. Bush.
If you look closely at the paperwork that supposedly shows her abortion you will notice that she simply went to her OB/GYN doctor for some love.
And the DC meant District of Columbia not Dilatation and curettage.
I think the democrats want to be caught. Think about it. If you write it out D aNd C? = DNC
'nuff said.
Oh, yeah. Jesus? That was an ass-kicking bloke, that one. I mean, "turn the other cheek if you're slapped". That's macho talk at its best.
And lets not forget his greatest butt-beating act: not resisitng arrest, not trying to avoid punishment when innocent, accepting to be crucified when he could've called for the legions of angels to come down and wipe out the Roman garrison.
Yeah, Jesus was really kicking ass and taking names.
Hell will be a very busy place when all these fuckheads will get their due.
Who IS this retard?
Bill O'Reilly?
To Bush Rules:
I'll bet you live alone and have to resort to whacking off to photos of Ann Coulter and Katherine Harris.
L-O-S-E-R!
Count,
I am not an expert but I think you are wrong--not about the Sadduccees and the Pharisees still alive and actively paticipating in the republican party. But I think the modern Pharisee are the fundalmentals and the Sadducees are the neo-cons.
Hi I’m Jesus Christ. Even though a lot of people have been evoking my name or my Father’s name to support their cause, I haven’t really spoken out about the topic because I thought I made myself clear on my beliefs. But since you didn’t have tape recorders or video cameras last time I was around I thought I’d explain a few things again. Oh and I’m sure they will spin this again. We had spinners in my day too, like Paul (who by the way, never met me in person. Nice guy, but sometimes he just makes stuff up so you can’t believe everything he says.)
There are only a few things that really got me mad, one was when people tried to use my Dad’s name to make money. That really ticked me off and I threw around some card tables. You should notice I didn’t kill anybody. And while we are on the whole topic of killing, how much clearer did I need to be than “Love your enemies.”? I ask people who want to hang out with me to do some tough stuff. One of the biggest is don’t kill people. Seriously. Even if they curse you. Even if they hate you. Even if they killed other people. Even if they kill thousands of people. I know that this is a radical thing to say, but there it is. There are people who think that it is okay to kill in all those circumstances, but if you say that you follow me, you shouldn’t kill people. I don’t expect you to be perfect but don’t call yourself a Christian and do something entirely different than what I say.
A few other things. Love is very big with me. Hate isn’t. I talked a lot about our responsibility to take care of each other. Take care of sick people, hungry people, and people in jail. These aren’t jobs you should be outsourcing. If you want to be part of my team I suggest you do this work yourself. It shows me you got the message. And talking about it is very different from actually doing it. If you say you are going to help sick people and then later you don’t, well it isn’t okay to say you are on team of people who do stuff in my name. You might want to join a different group, I actually don’t expect you to be perfect but I do expect you to not just say one thing and do something entirely different.
"misquoting the Bible", indeed. The Maccabees werea family of Jewish warriors whose successful revolt against their Seleucid rulers in the second century B.C. is celebrated in the festival of Hanukkah and documented in the Apocryphal Books of Maccabees.
So it would have been rather difficult for Jesus to do anything to them.
Yes, Pharisees and Sadducees are probably whom this person is thinking of, although Christ didn't "do" anything to them, other than denounce them.
The letterwriter got the money-changer part down correctly, though.
I hear Monica Lewinsky works for Ariel Sharon. Is that true?
'America's Nemesis - name this troll. I vote for the name stealer.'
Which one? There are so many here just recently, all whooping and howling and throwing feces... Our name stealing pal never goes away though, so take his presence as a given.
QuentinCompson:
Thanks for the Amichai. Have you seen this site?
http://www.ithl.org.il/amichai/p...chai/
poems.html
No no. You have it wrong jude. It isn't Monica Lewinsky what works for Ariel Sharon. It's Lucianne (The Bat) Goldberg. Or maybe it's Norman Podhorputz. Anyway, one of the two.
Mr. Christ, those were beautiful words, but with all due respect, 9/11 changed everything. If Kerry is elected President, then we'll all be speaking Al-Qaedaese soon. Dick Cheney (who, as you know, works very closely with your right hand man) said so.
Bush's horrible and discriminatory faith-based initiatives are putting the Government money-changers squarely in the temples.
It is so disgusting.
I love how people like the Monkey can call names when he can't even spell.
"Yourselfs"???? He's got Maccabees spelled incorrectly.
And he's also got idiots spelled wrong. He's throwing an insult around - and he can't even spell it!
The Donkey -
Thank you, thank you, thank you for that much-needed, lung-filling, oxygen-increasing, endorphin-releasing HOWL of a laugh you provided me and Mr. Kate. Tears-streaming funny stuff.
How did you spot the resemblance? How did you know to line up these precise two picture? Fucking brilliant.
This is like where Jesus says in 1Bob 13;2 "Go ahead, make my day, punk."
It's all very funny, until you realize that people like this have the vote.
Wow!
Uneducated and proud to show it....could anything capsulate the Repugs any better than that email?
what a loser....everone should feel sorry for it, to have lived a whole life and experienced nothing, learned nothing, loved nothing....
Sad really...
I was curious what "idot" meant, since I never saw that before.
From Dictionary.com:
IDOT Innovative Design Optimization Technology (Korea)
IDOT Internet Development Outreach and Technology
So, either he thinks you're going to blow your cover as a secret asian man or he thinks you are doing your part in Internet Outreach. I'm going for the latter, but the former would be funny!
What a maroon...
That's cute. When, exactly, did Jesus Christ morph into Dirty Harry?
I must have been asleep that day.
Vote for George W. Bush.
The power of Christ Compels you.
The power of Christ Compels you.
yeshai, thanks for posting the poems link.
I meant to, but forgot. I went there looking for the fever poem, but couldn't find it there or anywhere. Ms Compson pointed it out to me yesterday in a recent New Yorker. I believe it was recently discovered.
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Funny, not only did the Maccabeean revolt take place hundreds of years before the birth of Christ, but the line of high priests installed by the Maccabees (the Hasmonean dynasty) died out roughly 70 years before Christ was born.
Jesus had nothing to do with the Maccabees, other than leading a revolt that would make Judas Maccabee proud.
I'm Jewish and the only Maccabees I know about are the ones in the Chanukah story (or is that spelled Hanukkah? don't get me started). Was there a sequel starring Jesus or something?
People with IQs as low as Monkeys shouldn't be permitted to vote.
People with IQs as low as DUMBya shouldn't be permitted to run for office.
Look for a copy to be made soon (as an experiment) on a 1972 IBM that has all the same characteristics. Of course, then the freepers, and suckers like you, will say, if you could make that TODAY on an old Selectric, maybe they ARE recent! Documented evidence isn't much good in the face of fanaticism.
The Freepers will just say "This proves they are fake! See, they just did it!"
And the ABC and CNN will repeat the meme.
NJG--
There were no sequels, but there was a prequel.
There are four books called Maccabees, the first two (considered canonical by Catholics) deal with the Maccabeean revolt and the events surrounding the time when [C]hanukkah was instituted.
The third book deals with events roughly a century earlier, and thus has nothing to do with the Maccabeean revolt.
The fourth book is a midrash on II Macc. vi 18ff.
None of them have anything to do with Jesus, or even the high priests working at the time of the birth of Jesus.
If you can't joke about the messiah what can you joke about?
http://www.dot.state.il.us/default.html for all your idot needs.
-J.T.
If an infinite number of monkeys write an infinite number of emails . . .
The Maccabees are, I hear, going to be the subject of Mel Gibson's next movie.
I'm thinking the temples aren't going buying blocs of tickets.
It's a parody. Bartcop used to use "idot" to great effect when mocking right-wing loons (which is most of them).
From what source did you hear that Jenna had an abortion?
Just as I suspected yesterday, Chicken George found flying a little more work (and more dangerous) then he anticipated. see 'homepage' below
When the going gets tough, 'W' gets going (on down the road!)
What would Jesus rave?
Jenna? Abortion? I don't think anyone should be repeating that it was the result of some kind of weird asian role playing with uncle neil.
Look, people. You've got to stop talking about Jenna's abortion. As a woman and a feminist since the 60's, I have to protest your making a big deal about this.
You have probably heard that Roe v. Wade is the law of the land, and therefore, it was perfectly legal and, in my estimation, perfectly okay for Jenna to have that abortion.
So let's not keep talking about her abortion. I'm sure she thought about it carefully and she and her doctor agreed it was what she needed to do.
So let's not keep hammering on poor Jenna about the abortion. Feel free, however, to discuss George Bush's pedophilia.
The very idea of continuing to discuss Jenna Bush's abortion is just going too far.
Little iDot is one of my favorite cartoon characters.
"I want a "Moonbat" t-shirt."
I want an "I'm with this IDOT >>" t-shirt, with one exposed nipple.
Even as the Bushies keep themselves tied up trying to discredit the Killian memos, several papers -- including US News and USA Today -- have him by the nuts.
Check this out from US News:
The service question
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A review of the regulations governing Bush's Guard service during the Vietnam War shows that the White House used an inappropriate--and less stringent--Air Force standard in determining that he had fulfilled his duty. Because Bush signed a six-year "military service obligation," he was required to attend at least 44 inactive-duty training drills each fiscal year beginning July 1. But Bush's own records show that he fell short of that requirement, attending only 36 drills in the 1972-73 period, and only 12 in the 1973-74 period. The White House has said that Bush's service should be calculated using 12-month periods beginning on his induction date in May 1968. Using this time frame, however, Bush still fails the Air Force obligation standard.
Moreover, White House officials say, Bush should be judged on whether he attended enough drills to count toward retirement. They say he accumulated sufficient points under this grading system. Yet, even using their method, which some military experts say is incorrect, U.S. News 's analysis shows that Bush once again fell short. His military records reveal that he failed to attend enough active-duty training and weekend drills to gain the 50 points necessary to count his final year toward retirement.
The U.S. News analysis also showed that during the final two years of his obligation, Bush did not comply with Air Force regulations that impose a time limit on making up missed drills. What's more, he apparently never made up five months of drills he missed in 1972, contrary to assertions by the administration. White House officials did not respond to the analysis last week but emphasized that Bush had "served honorably."
Some experts say they remain mystified as to how Bush obtained an honorable discharge.
What a moran.
Now the middie?....not so sure...
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Like I said, these are tough times and smokers can't be choosers.
Backslider |
Fair to Middle-in' ???
Must be a Fox thing:
http://idot.tv/
fwiw, there's no there there.
A mind is a terrible thing to waste.
Just wait, twenty years from now his peers will be running the country and we will all be longing for those glory days when we had that really intelligent President, George W or something.
yawl dont git it!
humanity progresses at the speed of its slowest citizen
we aint progressed much in over 100 years
yeah sure we have made electronic gizmos, but have you read any discourse from the 19th century (political)...they were soo knowledgeable..why?
they were knowledgeable and cared about politics because just a handful of generations before them, there were HUGE revolutions - the revolutions of the people against tyrannical oppression both here in the US and in France.
today - we dont wrangle the tough issues in a political debate - we talk about crap like war as if it were yet another cold - and still we dont care that 20% of americans dont have health insurance - that much of our water is polluted - that our government has been bought by the corporations and is run by the corporations for the corporations self-interests (which amounts to the greedy interests of a few Mr. Potter's at the top)
that is called loony talk
America Deserves Bush 2004
Here's the deal with "Jesus and the Maccabees"
I used to room with Christians (actual Christians) in college. Very devout, but not hypocritical.
Among some Protestants, along with Post-Millenial Dispensation and God-inspired Modern Prophecy, we have the belief of "Time travelling Jesus."
That is to say, they believe that God the Son was helping the Jews for thousands of years before he came to Earth.
He rescued Daniel from the furnace (the torture before the lion's den).
He helped the Maccabees win against the Hellenistic Jews and the Alexandrian Syrians.
He sometimes helped out Moses.
It seems kooky to me, but it explains the email, and it explains why St. Mel has decided to do Maccabees.
"no...as Eddie Spaghetti says, a friend with weed is a friend indeed."
Hmm, Backslider, seems you are from my part of the woods (NW Washington State). Unless there are two Eddie Spaghetti's out there. Ours is a biker about 6' 6" tall and thin as a rail who fronts a kick-ass rock band called (and I kid you not) Eddie Spaghetti and the Meatballs. And though I have no personal knowledge I suspect our Eddie would not turn his head away if offered a little BC Bud.
Bush is scum. Kerry served two years in the jungle hell of Viet Nam while Bush partied.
If that wasn't bad enough, Bush gets out early.
What is it with right-wing bible-thumpers and the moneychangers story? It's the only thing they can remember from the Bible. Well, that and the one or two lines in Leviticus about homosexuality.
How about "turn the other cheek" or the one about the camel and the eye of a needle?
I'm convinced. If Jesus ever did come back, these sick pseudo-Christians would be so incensed at his pacifism, they'd tear him limb from limb.
Twincitious--
If Jesus Christ were to come to-day, people would not even crucify him. They would ask him to dinner, and hear what he had to say, and make fun of it.
- Thomas Carlyle
Atrios,
the posted letter is the product of nearly 2 decades of Limbaugh looniness.
This is the final result. A good portion of the disaffected reduced to empty headed prattle.....much like the things we read about wingnuts on sites like Conwebwatch, TVNewsLies, World 'o Crap, SullyWatch and so on.
Walt Whitman once wrote about his reaction to a young soldier remarking how he saw a monument to John C. Calhoun....and when we look at America today, we see a monument to Ronald Reagan, and Bush is the present, and hopefully last manifestation of the lunacy that has gripped the nation for nearly 3 decades now.
change must come, and Kerry is the one I think is better suited to leading this movement to change. Not because I am a fan of Kerry, but because Bush will not, and cannot lead, period....his record clearly shows this.
Perhaps Jesus taught the "Mad Cabbies" how to spell? Maybe?
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