HULK SMASH!!!
Yeah, you're right. I was surprised. Definitely.
Secundus?
Holy. Mother. Of. Fuck.
Brad Pitt's brother Stu?
is he insane?
If Scalia is in, count me out.
totally.insane.
totally.
“But it is blindingly clear that judges have no greater capacity than the rest of us to decide what is moral.”
Then don't do that! Do your job!! Don't decide what is moral for the public, only what is compliant with the intent of the Constitution!!! Yeesh. This guy is a two-faced whack job just like the Faux POTUS!
Well. Um. Er...
Those of you very-social types in the DC area, better look around the room CAREFULLY before you hook up.
...Scalia quipped: “Would you rather have the president of the United States decided by the Supreme Court of Florida?”
Uh, well, since the whole shebang came right down to Florida, then yes. The Electoral College system is supposed to make it the States that elect the president, rather than the People. I disagree with the whole concept, but since that's the setup, why should the Federal Gov't stick it's nose in?
Ahh, Whadda i want, logic?
Damn. Thought for sure it was Pat Buchanan. Damn.
Off topic:
If anyone cares, the way for Kerry to slam dunk the debate:
In response to first question, address GWB as incompetent and a fool and then
take out "The PET Goat" from the podium and keep reading for nine minutes.
Rule Broken? Well, it's not as if New York was bombed.
You know, if Bush were a Democrat, KarlRove would have guys dressed up in goat suits.
Vote for Dr. Black. Early and often.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp...marketing/blog/
I knew, but only because I saw it as a headline on Fark earlier.
Damn.
Holy fuck, Batman!
Hah! I guessed right, but only because of the hint that "no one will get it right."
Eeeeeew.
Dr. Laura? (I'm basing this on having seen the General's obit of her lover a few days ago -- he notes, btw, that nekkid pictures of her continue to be readily accessible on the Net).
Ed Koch? No? Ok, I'll go look now.
NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!! Sex and Scalia in same place. BLLLEEEECHHHHHHH!!!! Oh, the mental image is just nasty.
Excuse me, I have to rinse my mind.
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaagggggggghhhhhhh! My eyes! My stomach!
What?!?! He's about the six billionth person I would have guessed.
Boy, does that give a nasty visual...
Never in a million years
Scalia.
Still waters run. They just run.
Yuk.
This deserves the "WTF ?" award of the day.
I just threw up a little in my mouth...
Is this Scalia's "missionary position"?
It makes sense. Scalia did screw hundreds of millions of Americans at the same time.
I guessed Alan Keyes. Scalia is close enough.
Brain bleach, please.
Scalia thinks the direct election of senators is a "bad idea"??? Jesus Christ on a crutch!!!
According to the nekkid pix of the Supremes in Jon Stewarts book "he's swinging some serious pipe". Maybe he's the belle of the ball.
Is this Scalia's "missionary position"?
If it pleases the Court, I move to enforce the penal code on this convict. Baliff, cast him in chains while I remove my robe and retire to my chambers.
Why is everyone so freaked out?I find his comments kind of reassuring.Note,I said SOME.
I dunno,maybe I read it wrong or something.His views on sexuality were very far from the wingnuttery we have been hearing of late.Good for us,and good for the constitution (if I read it right).
Funny, Scalia isn't normally considered the "swing" vote.
It makes sense. Scalia did screw hundreds of millions of Americans at the same time.
Zing!
I promise this is a blind guess:
Grover Norquist
promise this is a blind guess:
Grover Norquist
ewwwww.
This thread isn't going to get better. I can see that.
Well,one radcon nutball is pretty much the same as another.
I can imagine one of these guys saying that gay men ought to use vibrators to satisfy their desires.
Man, I've got to show Antonin some videos!
Hey, that reminds me.. i was thinking that Karl Rove really looks like a child molestor to me. Seriously.. he looks like a major perv. Has anyone ever tried to find dirt on him?
Is he single?
Ewwww, I can never envision Scalia saying "Counsellor, I have a question about your briefs" the same way again.
GDoyle
Scalia. Heard this somewhere earlier today (I think on Olberman). Bizarre.
I thought of Scalia only as a master debater.
OT: I was recently visiting in-laws (wingnuts) in Jacksonville, FL. While there, I happened upon the local newsweekly, folioweekly, which had an interesting article on a woman whose late husband was in TANG with Shrub. Their website doesn't carry their articles, so I was going to retype the whole thing but fortunately I didn't have to.
Janet Linke has been thinking about George W. Bush a lot lately. Thirty-two years ago, her late husband Jan Peter Linke served briefly in the Texas Air National Guard's 111th Fighter Interceptor Squadron. Bush's service in the same squadron has gotten plenty of mention in an election year when what you did during the Vietnam War is suddenly a litmus test of character. But Linke claims she knows a part of the story that nobody has mentioned.
According to Linke, a Jacksonville resident and artist, Bush's flying career was permanently disabled by a crippling fear of flying.
Linke's husband was admitted to the Texas Guard in the summer of 1972 to replace Bush. President Bush has said that he stopped flying fighter jets because the Alabama Guard unit didn't have jets, and he wanted to transfer to Alabama in order to work on a political campaign. But Linke says she heard a different story from her husband and Bush's squad commander, the late Lt. Col. Jerry Killian. Shortly after her husband joined the Texas unit, Linke says, the couple discussed Bush's service with Killian at a social event.
Contrary to some news reports that suggest Killian admired Bush, Linke says the officer didn't have much use for the young Lieutenant. He mentioned that Bush appeared to have a drinking problem, she recalls, but he was most offended by another incapacity: his fear of flying. According to Linke, Killian said Bush was grounded in his fourth year of flying after he became incapable of flying or properly landing a plane.
"He was mucking up bad, Killian told us," Linke says. "He just became afraid to fly."
(more at link above)
Hey, this seems like a great campaign theme too.. Bush considers Scalia a model justice, and Scalia advocates orgies...
The creeping influence of Justice Thomas.
Wow. He's into it. Now he just needs to grow an "orgy moustache" and wear an "orgy robe."
I guessed Bertrand Russell. I think he would have agreed.
“I even take the position that sexual orgies eliminate social tensions and ought to be encouraged,” Scalia said.
Speaking from personal experience, perhaps? It's too bad no one asked him his position (heh) on bestiality.
Maybe Santorum knows.
Ah yes, Scalia.
If only Kerry hadn't voted to confirm Scalia, we wouldn't have him raving the way he does.
Hey, didja all hear about how the Oregon Secretary of State just got away with shenanigans that Kathleen Harris only dreamed of? Yep! That's right! The Oregon Sec. of State now has dictatorial power in the determination of ballot access for anyone who is not a Republican or a Democrat.
Not bad. At least, presumably, we won't have to put up with Democrats whining about Bush v. Gore anymore. While they certainly haven't upstaged Bush v. Gore this year, Democrats have certainly matched it with the anti-Nader campaign. Wow! Illegitimate and corrupt court actions in at least 15 states! Culminating in an Oregon decision which transforms the state secretary into a dictator! Good job, Democrats!
In The Daily Show's book "America -- A guide to democracy inaction" you get to see all the justices naked.
I could be old enough to answer this--Theodore Reich.
I guess Scalia has been spending too much time with porn-video Thomas.
Maybe Scalia, Thomas and liberal Ginsberg have been getting it on with 'moderate' Sandra Day in some wild foursomes.
CAUTION: Do not visualize this orgy!
So he's against striking down anti-sodomy laws, but pro-orgy? I don't get it. How can you have an orgy without sodomy?
more unsettling to me was his answer to the student who related his experience of being pulled over in Cambridge for driving-while-black.
Scalia: “What the Fourth Amendment prohibits is ‘unnecessary’ search and seizure,” the justice said. “Is it racial profiling prohibited by the Fourth Amendment for the police to go looking for a white man with blue eyes? Do you want to stop little old ladies with tennis shoes?”
Yo, you dumb piece of shit, can’t you wrap your fucked up little mind around the point that there was no man that the cops were looking for? Unless he believes, (and he apparently does) that a black man in Cambridge carries by definition a reasonable presumption of guilt. God, these people are tools.
Scalia and Ah-nold have something to talk about, apparently.
Pierre Trudeau?
...Democrats have certainly matched it with the anti-Nader campaign. Good job, Democrats!
Thanks, pipsqueak.
quack, quack!
Pardon me from distracting you from "I hate the nutjob judge our candidate voted to confirm" rerun (what is it now, 1000 times Scalia has been denounced on this website?) But I think I'll interject with a little reality about the legal atrocities Democrats committed this year, not just your average assault on participatory democracy itself:
The Unwritten Rules of the Duopoly
How Democrats Kicked Nader Off the Oregon Ballot
By DAN MEEK
Published September 28th at www.counterpunch.org
In a recent editorial the Oregonian celebrated the decision by Secretary of State Bill Bradbury, upheld by the Oregon Supreme Court, to keep Ralph Nader off the Oregon ballot, citing grave concerns for "fraud" and "circulator irregularities."
But the Oregonian has never described the absurd excuses Bradbury actually used to disqualify Nader. In fact, Nader submitted far more county-verified voter signatures than the 15,306 needed on sheets in full compliance with all statutes and all written rules.
After conducting a trial, the Presiding Judge of the Marion County Circuit Court concluded that Bradbury had booted Nader by using "unwritten rules" that were "not supported by the written administrative rules as set forth in the [State Candidate's] Manual." He also found the "unwritten rules" to be "inconsistent with ORS 247.005, as well as with the prior policy of the Elections Division" and "not applied either uniformly or consistently in actual practice."
These "unwritten rules" disqualified over 700 valid voter signatures, all of which had already been verified by county elections officers, who themselves signed and dated every sheet with an affidavit of authenticity (often with a county seal as well). This subtraction left Nader 218 short of the 15,306 needed.
The Oregon Supreme Court concluded that Bradbury had the legal authority to use his "unwritten rules," a conclusion that now requires all petitioners to comply with any requirements he dreams up but fails to publish, before or even after the signatures have been collected and filed.
One "unwritten rule" Bradbury used to toss away over 400 county-verified voter signatures was that circulator signatures could not "appear to be initials." This appears in no statute and no rule on nominating petitions. When the rejected circulators came forward with affidavits, showing their same signatures on important documents (including drivers licenses, social security cards, and past tax filings), Bradbury refused to consider the documents.
Another "unwritten rule" was that every circulator signature be "legible," even though the circulator's printed name is right below her signature on every sheet. Many people have signatures that are not "legible," such as Norm Frink, a Multnomah County Deputy District Attorney, whose signature did not seem to spell out "Norm Frink." Bradbury rejected all the Frink sheets (and hundreds of sheets of other circulators) with no notice
Bradbury rejected all the Frink sheets (and hundreds of sheets of other circulators) with no notice to him or to the Nader campaign and then refused to consider the affidavits Mr. Frink and the others provided, vouching for their signatures and showing those same signatures on past important documents.
Another "unwritten rule" rejected any sheet having any correction whatever of the date on the circulator's signature. If the circulator made any slip of the pen in writing the date, Bradbury threw out all of the county-verified voter signatures on that sheet. If a circulator began to write a "7" for the day of the month, realizing the error, crossed it out and wrote an "8," the entire sheet was discarded, and Bradbury allowed absolutely no way for the circulator to correct such a slip of the pen. Banks accept checks with such "dating errors," but not Bradbury, even though there exists no statute or rule requiring that the date on a circulator's signature be the result of a pristine flow of ink on paper.
In addition, Bradbury discarded 2,354 county-verified voter signatures (out of the 18,186 submitted to him), because they were on sheets filed with the county elections officers without sequential sheet numbers on them. Employees of the Secretary of State could provide no instance of this ever being applied to reject nominating petitions. Further, the manager of the Nader campaign testified at trial, using his log of notes, that he had been submitting the sheets with sequential sheet numbers until being advised by Bradbury's office late in the process that he should stop numbering the sheets. That employee testified that she did not recall the conversation but that she had more than once provided incorrect advice to candidates and that the resulting violations of written rules were waived by Bradbury. But no waiver for Nader.
Testimony at trial showed that the county elections officers themselves placed numbers the sheets missing them and that counting these county-numbered sheets would qualify Nader for the ballot. Bradbury offered no reason for questioning the county-numbered sheets and no instance of ever rejecting them in the past. The counties had no problem with accepting and verifying 2,354 voter signatures on the non-numbered sheets. Each sheet was then signed and dated by a county official. Only the original sheets, with the original county official signatures (and often official seals as well) were filed with Bradbury. And he threw them all away, thus leaving Nader 218 short.
There are also an unknown number of other signatures discarded by county officials, after Bradbury ordered them not to accept circulator signatures that were not "legible" or that had "dating errors." Despite repeated requests, Bradbury has never identified how many hundreds or thousands of otherwise valid voter signatures were tossed away by the counties, at his unpublished order.
While the Oregonian would prefer that Nader be off the ba
Scalia quipped: “Would you rather have the president of the United States decided by the Supreme Court of Florida?”
If intellectual dishonesty was a bar to being a Supreme he'd be out of work tomorrow.
And he's one of their shining lights.
Karin, that's the hole in Scalia's argument.
Jenna/Notjenna?
(My first guess.)
it should at least inform the public of the actual tactics Bradbury used to accomplish this goal.
Eeeeew. Yuck. Him? In an orgy? I have to go wash my brain out with soap now.
“I even take the position that sexual orgies eliminate social tensions and ought to be encouraged,” Scalia said.
“But it is blindingly clear that judges have no greater capacity than the rest of us to decide what is moral.”
He said that jurists should be selected for their “lawyerly skills and judicial temperament and not for the size of their schlong.”
When Scalia quipped...
"Would you rather have the president of the United States decided by the Supreme Court of Florida?”
...This is the type of arrogant tripe that makes my skin crawl. The Florida Supreme Court never tried to decide who would be President, they only tried to make sure the intent of the voters was upheld. They wanted the votes counted. For that they earn Scalia's derision. Fuck Scalia, that arrogant prick.
How Democrats Kicked Nader Off the Oregon Ballot
Yes! Tell me the story of how exactly the Democrats kicked little Ralphie off the ballot!
How Democrats Kicked Nader Off the Oregon Ballot
Atrocities? How about Nader becoming the candidate of the "Reform Party" not by nominating convention but by conference call, thus being eligible for the ballot in some states, mine, for example.
Don't give me that shit. Nader is about as princlpled as Tom Delay.
is he insane?
Nah. Just lonely. And he's not necessarily wrong.
About this.
Justice Antonin Scalia, in certain circles known as: "The Italian Scallion."
OT:
Stewart laying into O'Reilly right now.
Maybe Scalia, Thomas and liberal Ginsberg have been getting it on with 'moderate' Sandra Day in some wild foursomes. JimPortlandOR, your post is pure fucking written Viagra, thinking about this foursome really gives me a perma-boner.God I'd love to be the filling in that sandwich!
Justice Antonin Scalia, in certain circles known as: "The Italian Scallion."
No, the Italian Rapscallion
"Scalia thinks the direct election of senators is a "bad idea"???
Why shouldn't he? He thinks the same way about presidents.
Ralph Reed got the slow treatment yesterday on TDS.
Bush (via O'Reilly) gets totally fucking slammed.
Just be watching it.
TDS has new BC04 Slogan: "If We're Evil, It's News to Us."
CAF
GO back to your wingnut masters and ask them about the funding of the Nader campaign.See if they tell you any truths about getting signatures and funding and court decisions in his favor,when you get *truth* come back and try to tell us that the dems are completely wrong.
How many of you will watch the debate tomorrow night while posting here? Do you think HaloScan will cope?
The direct erection of Senators is apparently a different matter entirely. Alright, I'm out.
"“I support the nomination of Judge Antonin Scalia as an associate justice of the Supreme Court. I support him not because he is liberal or conservative, but because he is a legal scholar of distinction, of principle, and of integrity. … While I may often disagree with Judge Scalia’s views, I respect him as a jurist and a legal scholar. I believe that he will make a positive contribution to the Supreme Court, and I support his nomination.”"
-- John Kerry, 1986
Scalia thinks the direct election of senators is a "bad idea"?
What about the direct erection, I mean, election of Supreme Court justices?
Why is Scalia talking about gonadal politics? If I'm president, there will be no discussion of gonadal issues by supreme court justices.
I won't be home in time for the debates to post anything, but I will be reading the threada after the fact with great anticipation. Eschatonians never disappoint.
Withnail and I are on the same page.
Antonin sits on my chest and makes me say terrible things.
CAF, sort of like Bush - Scalia said one thing to get into office, then did something completely different, doing irreparable damage to this country in the process.
Antonin's panties fell to the floor. Within seconds, my tongue was moving inside him.
I said it!
What's Stewart saying about O'Reilly? Is it the "stoned slacker" thing or something else?
Antonin sits on my chest and makes me say terrible things.
Newt Gingrich
"When he gets really excited, he calls me Hot Carl. I don't know why."
I wonders what he thinks of the lesbian sex scenes in Lynne Cheney's bodice rippers.
Somehow I'd gotten the impression that Opus Dei wasn't that kind of club.
Silly me.
"Scalia thinks the direct election of senators is a "bad idea"???
Amazing how truly airy-fairy some of our Supremes are. Does he think that the people would put up with an appointed one anymore? The Senate was as bad an idea as the "founding fathers" came up with the greatest guarantee that democracy wouldn't rear its head in their new republic. That is the real reason that the second coming of Il Duce doesn't like it being elected, even an elected Senate is too close to democracy for his liking.
Read An Economic Interpretation of the Constitution of the United States Rereading it this year (Dover reprinted it) was quite an eye opener.
Army Spc. Casey Sheehan of Vacaville,
California died in Baghdad, April 4, 2004,
when his unit was attacked with
rocket-propelled grenades and small arms
fire. He was 24. His mother has something to
say.
You guys ever read the National Lampoon parody of the Supreme Court -- Thurgood Marshall's guide to writing pornography?
"I'm the real Harry Blackmun around these parts."
There's no way I could guess which rethuglican would say that without a better hint, but I was not at all suprised that Antonio* said that. My thesis is that if someone bought Scalia a large type copy of the constitution, he might have some basis for his rulings. That's the only explanation I can give of how he votes.
*Bushism of course
Hilarious but tragic bit on TDS just now. Reporter delivered the story he will turn in on the debate tomorrow.
-- But what if actual news happens?
-- That's what bloggers are for.
Refresh me: how was the Senate originally appointed?
smalfish:
You've been lied to. A think tank that liberals rely on, the Center for Responsive Politics, published a report showing that a) Republican donors only accounted for 4% of Nader's funding this year, and b) those same Republican donors have actually given more money to Democrats this year than they have to Nader.
Remember how Democrats complain that Republican propagandists in the media repeat the fabrication that Saddam had 9/11 connections, and now Republican voters believe this?
Well, Democratic propagandists - some very sleazy operators, like Alterman, and some of these shady 527 types - have repeated and repeated these fabrications about Nader this year. That list of sleazy liars includes Howard Dean.
But anyways, just like Republican voters believe Saddam had 9/11 connections, because this is convenient for Bush, you believe Nader is funded mostly or entirely by Republican rightwingers, because this, in turn, is convenient to Kerry.
(In one particularly ironic turn, the same CRP report shows that money from Republican donors is going to some 527 organizations that are spending it attacking Nader for being "funded by Republicans".)
Oops, did I interject with reality again? Sorry, did'nt mean to break up the I-hate-Scalia-fest.
Withnail: anything to keep the denial going, eh?
Refresh me: how was the Senate originally appointed?
State legislature.
I think that was "blockers" on TDS
First:
Withnail and I are on the same page.
Completely loved that show.
Secondly:
Does it seem like the Republicans are saying and doing crazy crap because they know they're going to lose in November? First Cheney telling Americans that they will be attacked if they vote for Kerry(hey Dick, nice looking out for the sympathies for 9/11 families.) Then Super Grover tells us that the "Greatest Generation" is a bunch of commie loving free-loaders. And now this. They're not keeping it together at all.
Oh yeahhhh...
That's right...
Oh God! Oh God!
Ahhhhhhh...
Tony, you are an absolute deity in bed!
Yes, I'll cry for poor little Ralphie all the way to the concentration camp. You'll probably still be feeling very smug and self righteous.
Spare me.
wow.
that's REALLY hot.
mmph...
CAF, nope, I'm just a patriotic American. Don't want to see this country go down the toilet.
"In addition, Bradbury discarded 2,354 county-verified voter signatures (out of the 18,186 submitted to him), because they were on sheets filed with the county elections officers without sequential sheet numbers on them. Employees of the Secretary of State could provide no instance of this ever being applied to reject nominating petitions. Further, the manager of the Nader campaign testified at trial, using his log of notes, that he had been submitting the sheets with sequential sheet numbers until being advised by Bradbury's office late in the process that he should stop numbering the sheets. That employee testified that she did not recall the conversation but that she had more than once provided incorrect advice to candidates and that the resulting violations of written rules were waived by Bradbury. But no waiver for Nader."
--- Oregon, 2004, Where Democrats Are Finally Aware That They Can Never Again Complain About Kathleen Harris, As They Just Outdid Her.
Who wants to bet that the post-debate coverage focuses on Kerry's tan, Bush's tie, the weather in Florida, Hurricane that struck near Coral Gables, or just about any other subject other than the actual words spoken by either Bush or Kerry.
Dem Convention - Balloons.
Rep Convention - Cool Staging.
Federal Court Rules Patriot Act Provision Unconstitutional
And the Blessed Virgin Ralphie might be in Swizerland with the proceeds of all his mysterious corporations that he won't disclose anything about.
Cry me a river about poor Ralph.
Now, back to hot, hot thoughts of Antonin Scalia in chaps.
Actually, I like Scalia. He can be counted on to support the right wing causes I favor, regardless of what the Constitution says.
Withnail:
I am a patriotic American as well, and I am sick and tired of seing the country go down the tubes to suit the schemes of Brahmin demagogues, be they Red or Blue.
EPT:
"Concentration camp?!?!?!" - sorry, I'm worried about devoting energy to engaging with someone invoking this hysterical sort of imagery.
CAF;
In the words of my mother, "Stop Your Goddamn Whining!"
Is he talking about clusterfucks like the Supreme Court's Florida 2000 decision ?
My god, did he just come out of the closet?!?
I don't mean about being gay, but about how repressed he is and how he really wants to have group sex.
Poor Chap is crying out for help. He wants to be liberated.
Now, I understand his fire and it true source. Hell I wish I could channel mine like him.
Wow, I am totally blown away.
I'm sorry, I thought this thread was supposed to be about Antonin Scalia's orgies, not Ralph Nader's masturbatory run for the White House.
Now I need a brain brush to wash away the thought of both Scalia in the nude AND Nader on the ballot. Looks like it will be a late night.
Monica A
The current Republican party and its administration actually remind me of a ships crew that mutinied, tossed the officers overboard and are just beginning to realize they need a real engineer and navigator. They just haven't got the guts up yet to radio for help.
CAF - your boy Bush is a Brahmin, too, don't forget.
CAF
While true that the democratic party is almost *ALMOST but not quite* as corrupt as the republicans,I see no alternative here.Nader offers me NOTHING.
Democracy has been hijacked by the two party system,the oproblem lies in the fact that the repubs are threatening to hijack democracy for ever and ever.With no return in sight is they win,how can you in all god conscience vote for anyone other that Kerry.True he is not the be all to end all,but surely you believe him to be better than our cheif wingnut?Or are you going to vote the status quo and throw your vote away?
Or is your vote really for the cheif winger,and you want us to believe your for nader?
My guess?Your a rove plant and want us to sympathise with naders plight.
It has to get worse before it can get better.
Nothing is more hysterical than people believing that Ralphie is a force for progress.
You people are LaRouchies without the elan.
I hadn't seen any of Kerry's interview with Diane Sawyer before tonight's "Daily Show."
Shockingly bad. Stammering around, parsing words and making qualifications when Diane lobbed him the softball question: "Was the war in Iraq 'worth it?'"
And Stewart was all over him for it: "Didn't you think the subject of Iraq*just*might*come*up? You know... it just might come up in the debates tomorrow night, too..." /paraphrase
Shockingly, awfully, embarrassingly bad.
I think that was "blockers" on TDS
Nah, it was 'bloggers'. And sad-but-true.
My protestations about Katherine Harris notwithstandng, I don't give a damn about democracy or due process.
smalfish:
If you'd like, go through all the online records of accusations that Nader is being funded by Republicans - you'll find that the accusations by major sources, such as Alterman, and Dean, cease all of a sudden just shortly after a certain press release emerged from the Nader campaign, announcing the CRP report. Alterman, in particular, just shut up like he never has before. His website had a daily screed announcing yet another bullshit hearsay rumour that Nader was being funded by Republicans, and then the CRP report showed that, in fact, only 4% of Nader's money was coming from Republican donors who also, incidentally, donate to the organizations funding Alterman's activities. Golly gee, he got quiet fast.
My god, did he just come out of the closet?!?
I don't mean about being gay, but about how repressed he is and how he really wants to have group sex.
Poor Chap is crying out for help. He wants to be liberated.
Now, I understand his fire and it true source. Hell I wish I could channel mine like him.
Wow, I am totally blown away.
Who said:
I even take the position that sexual orgies eliminate social tensions and ought to be encouraged.
Well, if we can rule out swallowing and anal sex and same sex and include paraphrasing, then there's too many to guess.
.
Not to defend the douchebag, but it's possible he meant I've even taken the rhetorical position that sexual orgies eliminate social tensions and ought to be encouraged.
I was so sure it was going to be Alan Keyes, I would have bet David Patterson's inherited wealth on it.
Old Hat, I agree, let's get back to the juicy stuff. I'll bet Scalia does orgies the way the Romans might have. Seems consistent with the way he interprets the Constitution - original intent and all that horseshit. So I'm thinking that means he wears a toga to orgies.
Withnail and I are on the same page.
Old Hat
Pun intended?
... Sorry, still thinking about Scalia's suggestions about Engaging in Public Sex and the number people it would take to fill the Coliseum!
!!!
Scalia certainly has his Eyes Wide Shut
It has to get worse before it can get better.
Ralph Nader
He always steal my best lines.
It would be so mush simpler if we just didn't have elections, but since it appears we must, I want them to be rigged in Bush's favor.
That wild and crazy guy, Anton Scalia
Hersh was great on TDS.
Strikes me as a genuinely decent man.
Shockingly, awfully, embarrassingly bad.
SteveLG
Thank goodness we're not stuck with him!
EkCenTrik:
I have to agree. This is kind of the nail in the coffin:
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/3...s/
30indian.html
I wonder if Scalia owns a copy of "Spartacus."
Withnail and I are on the same page.
Old Hat
Pun intended?
Yowza yowza YOWZA!
Not to defend the douchebag, but it's possible he meant I've even taken the rhetorical position that sexual orgies eliminate social tensions and ought to be encouraged.
No, he said it was his "personal view" that he had to separate from his job as Lead Douchebag on the Supreme Court.
CAF
"It would be so mush simpler if we just didn't have elections, but since it appears we must, I want them to be rigged in Bush's favor."
Why?
XXXcalia likes orgies , Hannity likes Bukkake.
Go figure.
CAF,
Much of the support given to Nader by the GOP hasn't been monetary, it's been in person-power, which doesn't cost a dime. I would bet that Republicans have collected a majority of his total ballot signatures nationwide. A number of news stories used to report how activists went around at Bush rallies with Nader petitions. Wonderful job they, did, too. Just ask New Mexico, Wisconsin, etc.
(Tip to Republicans: when you're doing bitchwork for someone else's campaign, please do try to collect valid signatures. There are probably not 2,357 Donald Ducks in any given state.)
Scalia confirmed by the Senate 98 to 0 in 1986.
Democrats lost the fight a long long time ago, liberals just finally noticed this in the last few years.
Now I have vague idea of what he and the Dick do on their hunting trips; is that duelling banjos I hear in the distance?
The funny thing is, I personally would be much better off if Kerry were elected president, but I find the idea of making other people suffer much more appealing than the idea of enjoying myself.
It has to get worse before it can get better.
Ralph Nader
Ralphie, old chum,
it already got worse, it got a whole fuck of a lot worse.
...and this year, on Nov. 2nd, it's going to start getting better.
and Ralphie, good intentions are great and all, but seriously, you're part of the problem.
WORK FOR A KERRY VICTORY.
Alan Keyes
CAF
So what?What else can we expect from a democratic system gone arwy?Nader is just blowing smoke up our asses with his candidacy.He was never going to win.he had no intentions of winning and his candidacy gives votes to the right.
At least Kerry gives some kind of hope and thats more than Nader or junior give me.
GO away with your nader act.We refuse his legitimacy here.We repel all negative thoughts on a Kerry presidency,for now.
When Kerry is president,then we can have our voices heard again.
CAF
Remember that there is a tomorrow and God has a great sense humor.
so what social tensions is he referring to?
Feel tense around co-workers or neighbors? Invite them over for a roll with the whole family...
I love fucking those young men at the Bohemian Grove orgies.
But I'd never marry one of 'em!
That would be crazy!
"It would be so mush simpler if we just didn't have elections, but since it appears we must, I want them to be rigged in Bush's favor."
Why?
magnolia
Because I want my candidate to win. I don't care about democracy or rule of law or any of that liberal nonsense. I want to win.
You people are LaRouchies without the elan.
EPT
Is that what that smell is?
"The funny thing is, I personally would be much better off if Kerry were elected president, but I find the idea of making other people suffer much more appealing than the idea of enjoying myself."
Thanks for being honest, but it sounds like you are contradicting yourself.
Whoa.
Now that's an activist judge for you! 
Little too much info for me though... :o
Withnail, you are cracking me up tonight.
I'm not the real CAF. I'm his embarassingly honest twin.
A little uplift before I go. Remember, God loves you. But Jesus thinks you're a real prick. I mean, he really can't stand your ass! I try and talk you up to him, Mr. Vice-President, but he just won't listen. Goodnight, you princes and princesses of the United States.
Withnail...
"Offer him yourself!"
I'm sorry. That should have been princes and princesses of Haloscan!
I would bet that Republicans have collected a majority of his total ballot signatures nationwide. A number of news stories used to report how activists went around at Bush rallies with Nader petitions.
You
may
be
right.
Hmm, so that's what they do on those dick, err, duck hunts.
The funny thing is, I personally would be much better off if Kerry were elected president, but I find the idea of making other people suffer much more appealing than the idea of enjoying myself.
beware debate timed shift in Troll strategy? - Nader folks work-most don't whine- voice of experience
Um, it just hit me; "social tensions"? Like on what scale? When I think of social tensions, I'm thinking of no less than hundreds of thousands of people. Now I think I know where the allusion to the Colliseum came from. This guy thinks big! I mean, Partay!
Yep, Stewart's digs at Kerry hit home. But they were also advice. Advice that the Kerry team needs to heed.
As for Sy Hersh: damn, give that man a Pulitzer now. Stewart asks him whether, if Bush is re-elected, the neocons get the book.
Hersh pauses for a moment, and says: 'If he's re-elected? We're really in trouble.'
Stewart was taken aback a little. 'That bad?'
Yep, Jon. That bad.
Seymore Hersh (sorry for the sp)
on The Daily Show!
He can't imagine Bush being re selected, We'll be fucked (not his words).
Anybody feeling like I am. Kerrey is starting to disgust me. Why can't he just take a firm position on Iraq. It's so obvious it was the dumbest most indefensible action, but he dances all around it.
Just fucking come out and say IT WAS THE WRONG THING TO DO! Not, how it was done or I would have , zzzzzzzzzzz. Yes we are better off with Saddam gone, but we are in much deeper shit because of this misbegotton war. God Damn it's the truth. I might just be sitting on the side lines like I have so many times before. It might be better for Bush to have to deal with the shit hole he has created and have to deal with all the investigations (that won't 'reveal' till after the election) in a second term. Damn it all to hell.
Hersh was great on TDS.
Strikes me as a genuinely decent man.
wtfwjd?
Caught bits of him here and there during other appearances. Captivating--wish I could have seen more.
Also, caught RFK, Jr. on Tavis Smiley last night. I was prepared to claw my eyes out with that voice made for pantomine, but I couldn't get enough. He plays way better on tv than radio. Each idea he had seemed more logical, doable and beneficial to the future of the human race than the previous. Amazing.
scalia-so many hairy backs, so little time. aaahhhh, relief.
I hope when Scalia attends these orgies, he doesn't have bad breath - Cert denied!
It's obviously a trial balloon for introducing group sex as a way to unite the Shiites and Ba'thists in Iraq.
Ewwww, that's just nasty.
It's always the old fat fucks who think group sex is groovy.
If you think I'm really for Nader, think again.
Close, but apparently, no cigar.
Everyone here supports me.
OT
""I'm ready to take a week off work, fly to Ohio, Florida, WHEREVER this thing is being fought out--and beat the fuck out of some Republican Congressional staffers if they try to stop votes from being counted.
Who's with me?
Chris Fox ""
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CAF-
It's obvious that you are for the misery and unhappiness of humanity.
beat the shit out of em? Nah, tell them a sexual orgie is being organized to relieve the tension of the election...
Scalia is a fucking piece of garbage unless and until he renounces everything he's ever said since getting on the Supreme Court. I hope he shares a cell with Mohammed Atta in hell.
Re: Kerry. It's real Goddamn simple: either he's going to win the Goddamn election, or Bush is. If you don't want four more exponentially worse years, stop griping long enough to send a check to the campaign, or even better, volunteer some time to make sure Democrats get off their asses and get to the polls on November 2. There are more of us. If we turn out, Kerry will win. If we don't, Bush will win. Those are the only two choices; which do you want.
KERRY BEATS BUSH, REPUBLICAN'S BLAMED
AP Nov 2, 2004
Many blame republican staffers for just fucking around...
Doesn't surprise me in the least. Scalia fancies himself quite the wit. But he often comes off as a slightly politically incorrect law professor who enjoys the sound of his voice too much. And he just loves embaressing those first year law students with his superior intellect. I'm sure he thought he was being just shockingly brilliant with his comment. Look at how he dismissed the guy who asked him the question about racial profiling.
Sooo, Scalia was the Marquis de Sade in his last life? Well, there's nothing like shoving a hot poker up the publics collective wazzu to out someone's more interesting proclivities...
Seriously though, Scalia and other Republicans (like Alan Keyes) have been harping on a 17th Amendment amendment for a while now. When will people see them for the whack jobs they really are? And what was with the most eloquent speech ever bit at the end of the article???
so with this post and the Signorelli one last night is Atrios turning into the Skinemax of the blogosphre?
tell them a sexual orgie is being organized to relieve the tension of the election
If scalia is ordering it maybe the wingnuts will oblige.
Seems like the entire country could use an orgie at this point,if what scalia says is right.
The remark 'would you rather have a president picked by the Florida Supreme Court' is so incredibly disingenuous; I can't believe the audience didn't pounce all over him.
The author of the article thought Scalia's remark about the 17th amendment was bizarre. Well, not so bizarre at all considering his remarks on the Florida Supreme Court. Both remarks betray a significant disdain for democracy and a desire to severely limit the franchise.
The truly frightening thing is that Scalia's views on contracting the franchise are shared by many right-wingers AND they have the power and are headed in that direction.
He's the Chief Justice of Horny.
Stewart was mahvelous this evening. (And, yep, it was definitely "bloggers.") Oh, yeah, and something about O'Reilly's viewers, who are usually "tweaked out on crystal meth"...
I don't watch Faux, ever, but have now seen clips from it, in Outfoxed and just now on TDS. What's up with the big box of big print to the right of the talking head? They KNOW their viewers are so dumb, they want to drive their daily-memo points home in print AND audio?
It's obvious that I'm a moronic 14-year-old who thinks people are really interested in my life and who I'm *really* voting for.
I slightly remember the debate of approving scalia. It was quite serious and took a long time and before him we had one lousy prospect after another.
Can't we impeach justices?
He's probably into roll playing to. You know, the robe, the gavel, the carrying out of the punishment.
Who says Opus Dei wasn't a wild ride.
It's always the old fat fucks who think group sex is groovy.
They think it gives them a better shot at the chick they couldn't get on their own.
It's like the rule of threesomes: One half of the couple issuing the invitation always wants to fuck the third person more, which is what creates problems.
A.
It's like the rule of threesomes: One half of the couple issuing the invitation always wants to fuck the third person more, which is what creates problems.
Thus spake Dan Savage.
Life terms for judges is way too much in this present time.We need to limit terms to say maybe 20 years and no more.Maybe even less.
What's up with the big box of big print to the right of the talking head?
its called brain washing. my local station used to do that too. Like 3 years ago. Thank God they quit, it was anoying as hell.
Hey, didn't Scalia used to ban reporters from recording and/or transcribing his speeches? If not, this may be evidence that he should...
Boy clicking that link, after reading that quote -- not a pretty picture...
I knew the answer because I read and watch TV too much. It is starting to weigh me down. God damn it I remember the Clinton days when my time was spent doing much lighter things. But I have no choice now, and the more I know what this Administration has done to my beloved country the more determined I am to change it.
Jeebus Xmas, will you all just be quiet for a second and let this Atrios newbie clean up his snot-covered keyboard! I can't stop laughing.
Scalia is one fine up-standing member of the court, O.K.? Man, what drove him to come out anyway?! I blame Clinton. Who knew?
And here I thought Jim Rome had the snarkiest and most hilarious contributors...
About the Senate--I do think Scalia makes an interesting point. Read your Harper's magazine--in which one reads that the Senate can be fairly argued as an anachronism.
"“Presumably it is some number between five and the number of people required to fill the Coliseum,” Scalia joked."
Five? Back in the day, it only took the three of us. Damn it, the Repugs always get to define the terms of an orgy.
Daydream Nation,
You had me at "fucking piece of garbage".
Daily Show was brilliant tonight.
Eviscerated O'Reilly and Bush's "mission accomplished" speech, and then they nailed the media's coverage of the debates, and then Hersh was so brutally honest.
And they did lay into Kerry a bit. That sure wasn't one of his finest moments with Diane Sawyer, that's for sure. If he's at all like that Thursday, we're so screwed.
I think the problem is that Kerry can't simply come out and say it wasn't worth it, because lots of people have died as a result of this war, and he can't just throw them away like they don't matter. But he sure could have phrased it better.
Another little note on Scalia and the 17th amendment. Before the 17th amendment the method of selecting senators was left up to the states.
Usually the state legislature elected U.S. Senators.
The Republican party currently has control of most state legislatures. Their grip is not likely to be broken in the near future. The GOP puts a lot of money into electing state legislatures and maintains organizations that coordinate activity between legislatures inter-state.
Consider this and the fact that state legislatures determine congressional districts.
Scared yet?
Has anyone heard any kind of explanation or rationale as to why Kerry did have that weird tan? (I keep telling myself that he was testing makeup for the TV cameras tomorrow night.)
Is anyone else frustrated that our guy would do something this silly, knowing how most people don't give a shit what candidates are saying and only remember goofy images like that? (Then again, he is the same guy who wore that bizarre NASA suit.)
Bush seems to have this ability to not look stupid in public (that's LOOK, not sound). And when Kerry does do something dumb, the GOP attack pigs are much better exploiting it. Can you just imagine if it had been Kerry who had fallen off his bike and cut up hs face?
Remember...
Scalia is a member of Opus Dei.
He loves orgies with young boys.
How do you think he got the job?
Maybe that's what those "duck hunting" trips with Dick Cheney are really about.
My friend told me she read on this sight that someone saw Sean Hannity in a private room at a club in NY. He was in the center of a circle jerk.
He must have been relieving the tension that comes with lying to all those gullible kool aid drinkers that watch FOX.
We report you decide.Bukkake Hannity.
Suck this, Antonin:
As a "supernumerary" Opus Dei member (a rank he shares with FBI director Louis Freeh and Supreme Court justice Antonin Scalia), Hanssen is not subject to the celibacy requirements, but initiates of the other two, higher, classes — the oblati and numerari — are. Thus, Hanssen's relationship with Galey is an almost laughably transparent attempt to affect a higher calling, to be a Platonic sugar daddy, to put himself into a sort of Father Phil role, cheating on his wife without actually cheating, and wrapping the whole matter in a dim fog of missionary gusto and saintly self-denial.
why is it that the people who are seriously wanting to participate in something like an orgy (Scalia) end up being the most hard-assed meanies about OTHER peoples' personal sexual behavior when it matters legally?
Librarian is confused.
(but still chuckling over Jon's comment that O-Really's viewers are "paranoid meth addicts," who knew less about current events than viewers of the Daily Show.)
and who is this new "CAL" person anyway?
and even more OT--Repub national sales/flat taxers made the NYT i see...
the trolls are active.
cal,
ARMPAC, TRMPAC, Tom Delay and influence peddling.
Local races in texas are using it. Hope it works.
What would you want, elected representatives determining an election? Silly cake-eaters! Now I must fire my shotgun into the air at fowl with my slouching fat buddy Dick
Fuck Scalia. Oh, wait, that's just what he wants.
agave,
The last time I talked to you, You went to feed your cat and never came back-Fat cat or what?
I feel the way you do and I believe Kerry needs to bring back the same passion he had when he came back from war. If he loves this country the way we do, He would get very angry that this country is going down the tube. God Damn it! Show it!
Look at how he dismissed the guy who asked him the question about racial profiling.
That almost made me puke. I live in Chicago, where our PD is know for such shit. I saw it in action a few years ago. I was walking to a subway (RL) stop when I saw two cops out of their squad patting down a twenty-something black man. Five minutes later, when I approached the stop, the same two cops were pulled over there patting down a sixty-something black man. That's some "perp" description they were working from.
releasing. social. tensions. aaahhhgggrrraahhh
Monica_CA
Okay, Did you feel the latest quake?
So I learned in this thread that chimpy has a fear of flying and Scalia doesn't.
My pants are down around my ankles.
Jon Stuart on Charlie Rose (PBS) right now.
So I learned in this thread that chimpy has a fear of flying and Scalia doesn't. - stencil
HAH! Nice distillation.
(i'm working on my "Presidential Smackdown 04" tapes of debate coverage for the J-kids at school. will be on the desk at the college while the debate is actually on, but look forward to y'all's running commentary online as a prelude to seeing what the VCR will have for me tomorrow night...so far they are mostly confirming the insider knowledge that "the press loves a good horse race.")
I think the problem is that Kerry can't simply come out and say it wasn't worth it, because lots of people have died as a result of this war, and he can't just throw them away like they don't matter.
The John Kerry of 1971 had no fucking problem with this issue. None at all. And he was right and he was honorable when he took to task, not his fellow soldiers, but the politicians and military brass who hung them out to dry:
"We are also here to ask, and we are here to ask vehemently, where are the leaders of our country? Where is the leadership? We are here to ask where are McNamara, Rostow, Bundy, Gilpatric, and so many others. Where are they now that we, the men whom they sent off to war, have returned? These are commanders who have deserted their troops, and there is no more serious crime in the law of war. The Army says they never leave their wounded.
The Marines say they never leave even their dead. These men have left all the casualties and retreated behind a pious shield of public rectitude. They have left the real stuff of their reputations bleaching begin them in the sun in this country...."
Sadly, the John Kerry of 2004...for whom I will vote and encourage everyone I know to vote because, as it was noted upthread, there's simply no other choice... is in full retreat from his former and better self.
I hope we elect John Kerry President on November 2. So that on November 3 I can get to work getting a real Democrat nominated in 2008.
Yeah, I'm pretty thoroughly disgusted. Sorry...
CAF - you're not reading a Scalia opinion, are you?
good one on that fear of flying reference.
it looks like tom delay's buddy, jack abramoff, is in big trouble:
Ex-Lobbyist Is Assailed at Hearing
Senators Say Pair Influenced Indian Tribes to Bilk Them
By Susan Schmidt
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, September 30, 2004; Page A04
Former lobbyist Jack Abramoff and public relations executive Michael Scanlon formed a secret partnership that corruptly influenced Indian tribal elections in order to bilk tribes that operate gambling casinos out of more than $66 million in fees, lawmakers charged yesterday during an unusual Senate committee hearing.
Abramoff, appearing under subpoena before the Senate Indian Affairs Committee, endured blistering attacks from senator after senator, turning aside all questions by invoking his Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination. Scanlon dodged U.S. marshals who attempted to serve him with a subpoena compelling him to appear, according to Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), who with the panel's chairman, Sen. Ben Nighthorse Campbell (R-Colo.), has been leading the seven-month investigation into Abramoff's and Scanlon's activities.
Nighthorse Campbell said the documentary trail developed by the committee, including the e-mails released yesterday, tell a story of unbounded greed. He said he believes Abramoff privately showed bigotry and contempt for tribal officials who were awarding him and Scanlon multimillion-dollar contracts, referring to them as "idiots" and "troglodytes."
"Do you refer to all your clients as 'morons'?" he demanded of Abramoff. The witness, flanked by lawyer Abbe D. Lowell, looked abashed but did not answer, citing his right against self-incrimination.
Two tribal leaders, one from the Agua Caliente tribe in Palm Springs, Calif., the other from the Saginaw Chippewa tribe in Michigan, testified about their futile efforts to block their tribes from spending millions of dollars to hire Abramoff and Scanlon. Agua Caliente Chairman Richard Milanovich said he has since learned that Abramoff and Scanlon entered into "a secret cabal with certain tribal members" to whom they provided "assistance" that is still being investigated.
Bernie Sprague, sub-chief of the Saginaw Chippewas, said that, in the fall of 2001, Abramoff and Scanlon "smeared the reputations of other candidates running for Tribal Council" and got their hand-picked slate elected.
The Senate committee has assembled hundreds of thousands of pages of documents about Abramoff and Scanlon's work with six tribes in various parts of the country. Records show that Scanlon and Abramoff each collected $21 million of the $66 million in fees paid to Scanlon's companies. On top of that, the tribes paid $16 million in lobbying fees to Greenberg Traurig, Abramoff's former lobbying firm, which typically charged them $150,000 to $175,000 a month.
"The documents show that Jack Abramoff systematically sought out impressionable tribal leaders and representatives, seduced them with promises of
OT:
Two Faces Of Bush goes live. Sorta.
hey--thanks M. X, Stewart on the Rose show is more interesting than the repeat of Olbermann i was collecting just now (no offense to Olbermann, who suck WAY LESS than most of the 24/7 folks.) Stewart will probably also be more interesting for the undergrads...
-L.
You know, just because a guy is extremely intelligent doesn't mean he will make the "right" decisions. In Scalia's case, he just uses that intelligence to rationalize his wrong decisions.
It's sorta like whether Superman can pull his own head off. If he is so strong, he should be able to. But then, his neck is strong, too.
Ah, philosophy.
Since we covered Racial profiling last week in Criminal Proceedure, I can tell you that Scalia's comment was totally disingenuous. No one who has even the vaguest familiarity with 4th amendment jurisprudence (concerning stops and seizures, i.e. arrests) would argue that the police are not allowed to use race as a descriptive part of an identification. Saying over the radio "Suspect is 5'10, 185 pound (whatever race) male" is not the racial profiling that people are concerned with.
The "I can't tell you what he looks like" comment is just Scalia attempting to be cute. No one serious is arguing that cops can't use race to describe an individual. What is racial profiling is the use of race as a component of probable cause or reasonable suspicion to investigate a person. To wit, in order to stop you, a cop needs reasonable suspicion (RS). In order to get RS, the cop needs to cite "articulable facts" that, given the cop's experience in law enforcement, raised this suspicion. If "suspect was a black male" is one of the facts that stacks up to RS, then this is profiling and should absolutely not be allowed in my opinion.
In any case, that's where the real debate is. Again, no one serious about this issue is arguing that you shouldn't be allowed to use race or skin tone as a disriptive adjective to aid police in apprehending an individual suspect for an individual crime. The problem is the systematic stops of MANY people based upon the race of those people. In my opinion, it's flat out wrong; several of the State Courts agree with me, others do not.
Scalia should know better, and I think his ridiculing of that student was a pretty flagrant display of a lack of concern for race in the legal system, a crucial issue and something that a Supreme Court Justice really should be responsible about.
QUACK QUACK.
(woops--i think i meant to thank C.S. for the programming tip...sorry.)
Scalia and his wife have like, 27 kids, so his pecker works.
CAF-
It's obvious that you are for the misery and unhappiness of humanity.
magnolia
That's correct. I would rather make other people miserable that try to be happy myself.
yeah, bkny, the NY Times has an article too, and they mention that Scanlon is a former aide of Tom DeLay
Wow, I'm really sorry about my spelling errors. Disriptive is supposed to read Descriptive.
RSR sleepy...
I was hoping it was Rick Santorum...
The pollster Kathleen Hall Jameison is actually a man.
I was hoping it was Sam Brownback.
Oh good people of Kansas, get rid of him.
Scalia and his wife have like, 27 kids, so his pecker works.
Either that, or he's developed quite some skill with a turkey baster.
Whichever it is: ew.
Tweety bird said Kerry won't come out and call the Iraq war wrong. Kerry did precisely that last week. Tweety and friends understand that Kerry's speeches didn't reach most of America. They weren't covered on local news or local papers. Every time my local news covers Kerry now they use the footage where he is supposedly wearing orange makeup. The clowning goes on. The whole country is a circus.
I could have had 100 guesses and still not come up with the right one.
You see ,I throw a lot of bullshit around on FOX, I know that, but damn I make great money pullin the wool over people's eyes and tellin them what's bad for them is really good for them. I know it.That's why I like getting surrounded by a group of men in a circle jerk Bukkake- cause I can feel their release .I can feel it dripping down my chin.I feel renewed.
So when does the civil war begin?
November 3 or
January 21?
""So when does the civil war begin?""
When they're counting the votes.
""So what do we do when the election is stolen, good people?""
Speedy
wrong attitude....Dems must be heard from before the election is called.We must be out in force, monitoring precincts, voting machines,voter intimidation etc.
Get loud and fight
on election day/night.
Be insanely vigilant.
Actually, go a little insane,get wild eyed...when the campaign is over it's time to count the votes.
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Well, that means Scalia has no doubt participated in a group orgy.
He's a Supreme Freak, Supreme Freak --
He's Supreme Freaky, yow!
Scalia is a prick.
He's a lot like Sully (and not just in his approval of dangerous sexual practices).
He writes disingenuous bullshit ninety-five percent of the time, while avoiding the real issue.
The other five percent of the time he reaches the right result, using bad reasoning, just to create the impression that he is somehow "fair and balanced."
Of course, unlike Sully, Scalia has a lot of power for being such a prick.
I'm going to guess, Antonin Scalia.
What you don't believe that was a guess? You just think I saw the quote on Countdown?
How do you know I haven't been at an orgy with Antonine-inch?
I wonder if he uses a penis pump under the bench to relieve his judicial tensions (a la Honorable Donald Thompson).
Hmmm. That must be why he doesn't want his speeches taped.
Has Clarence Thomas ever offered him a can of coke?
Wow. This is simultaneously the best and most revolting comments thread ever.
How can you have an orgy without sodomy?
Karin
Well, I suppose you could...but why bother?
I didn't know scalia presided over the jack ryan divorce case
does he really love A BRAVE NEW WORLD that much??????????????
That would have to be me 'cause I'm saying it right now.
I can see it now. The Supreme Orgy.
There's Justice Thomas taking a pause at the refreshment bar, "Is that a pubic hair on my coke can?"
While the thought of bumping into Justic Scalia at an orgy is somewhat disconcerting, and while I am completely straight, I still wouldn't hesitatie for a moment to do to Scalia what he did to us in Bush v. Gore.
does he really love A BRAVE NEW WORLD that much??????????????
“That was quite possibly the most eloquent speech I have ever heard.”
I hadn't seen any of Kerry's interview with Diane Sawyer before tonight's "Daily Show."
Shockingly bad. Stammering around, parsing words and making qualifications when Diane lobbed him the softball question: "Was the war in Iraq 'worth it?'"
And Stewart was all over him for it: "Didn't you think the subject of Iraq*just*might*come*up? You know... it just might come up in the debates tomorrow night, too..." /paraphrase
Shockingly, awfully, embarrassingly bad.
SteveLG | Email | Homepage | 09.29.04 - 11:26 pm | #
thanks for the premonition SteveLG
if kerry flubs the debates, i'll be more seriously considering the idea that he's just another tentacle on the hideous multinational-military-media-drug-intel-money-
sadomasochistic leviathan whoremother
otoh, if he kicks that tyke square in his prostituted hole over-and-over-and-over again, then i may have some rather considerate things to say about the man
but, scariously, the way the political theatre/farce has been playing out so far, it looks like the whole goddamn "democracy"-thing is nothing but an filthy show to keep the masses distracted --once again-- as tptb continue to rape, kill, gouge, fritter and whore every last remnant of the world away. . .
nevertheless, i'll try and keep and open mind because (part of me wants to believe that) the jury is still out
p.s. funny thing is though -- it seems that thomas pynchon had already shown us what the real deal is in his novel gravity's rainbow (1974)--thirty fucking years ago!-- but now the whoremother has just grown ever more efficient, ghastly and unconscionable.
Imagine Scalia Bush and Blair at an orgy....
Bush :"Primo! long time no see"
Scalia;"'ey Killer B, how's Mama B? Did you bring any friends today?"
Bush :"Primo, I brought Bullet Tooth Tony from London UKA."
Blair:"Hello chaps were are the 'tutes?"
Ok ignore the idea euuuuchhh.
re: Gravity's Rainbow
Cheney is Blicero
For "social tensions" read political tensions and Scalia's comment isn't all that surprising.
scalia is insane. always has been.
barry freed is exactly right, by the way. cheney is blicero.
scalia is ok actually. the only problem with him is that nobody ever ran over him with a truck.
Lets state the obvious.
Wealthy Repubs always play by two sets of rules. One for themselves, one for the working whores.
Rich Repukes can buy anything they want without the guilt they throw at the masses.
Repubs with many bucks don't really buy the Red State bible banging shit.
They just use it to keep the masses voting for their pork.
Will the worker bees ever get it?
Not with teevee, sports and beer in abundance.
Orgies were of course a part of the Nazi festivities, so naturally Scalia is debased enough to think them a good idea. He might also want to check into something called Eugenics, and I believe I hear Dr. Mengele calling his name.
"Antonin, that's Greek, right?"
--
"if kerry flubs the debates, i'll be more seriously considering the idea that he's just another tentacle"
Which explains why he volunteered to go fight in Vietnam because of Tet, because of his concern for his fellow soldiers. Which is why he busted BCCI and Iran-Contra. This guy is one of us, whatever his personal charms and photogenicity.
If Kerry 'flubs' the debates (unlikely), it is incorrect to blame him, since he would be an excellent president, whether or not he can navigate a Fox/Bush bullshit gauntlet.
I BLAME BUSH
You should do the same.
--
"And they did lay into Kerry a bit. That sure wasn't one of his finest moments with Diane Sawyer, that's for sure. If he's at all like that Thursday, we're so screwed."
Jon Stewart isn't divine, and his attacks on Kerry are often miles from accurate. Don't be so swayed by appearances-- Americans aren't. SO many Americans are voting our way this time, it is a landslide going in. The polls are ridiculous bits of propaganda; 500-1,000 person samples, to find out what 210 million potential voters are thinking.
That's like asking a flea what's happening on television.
As for 'we're so screwed,' you haven't seen much of our democracy, perhaps. We're Americans, and that is a difficult task. Bush WILL be removed from power, one way or another.
Our nation will survive, and we will be able to repair our reputation.
Bush can either lose fair and square, or he gets a choice: strychnine or bullets.
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The sad thing is, even though Scalia is a nut job with wierd ideas abut constitutional law, he has more commitment to the constitution and civil liberties in his little finger than can be found in all of the White House, the Justice Department or the Pentagon. See his opinion in the Hamadi case--at least he doesn't think the president can hold people as prisoners forever without judicial review.
"Repubs with many bucks don't really buy the Red State bible banging shit. They just use it to keep the masses voting for their pork."
... says Annon.
Boy, that's the statement of the decade.
Haven't looked at the answer, but I'd say Roger Stone.
I'm Antonin Scalia, bitch. Enjoy yourself.
Hold my drink, bitch.
Cocaine is a hell of a drug...hehehe
"Boy, that's the statement of the decade.
* * *"
Using their percentile against them.
But America is really a place where conscience and education meet. Those who refuse to see lies, don't get educated. And people who follow a sociopath into a genocidal war of aggression obviously have a flawed conscience.
So, 'murkins,' there are murkins. But even a poor person of relatively low intellect can have a conscience, and a willingness to see the truth. That conjunction can be JUST as American as the more sophisticated take of a college grad., and just as American as a person of conscience (such as a protester or a sincere religious person).
America didn't disappear, but it is possible to shut up the poor and lower I.Q. by the vote fraud and the economic draft. And it is possible to take great advantage of those who are busy creating actual solutions for our survival, such as ART, or a wise family. So to respond (to be robbed of that concentration), the enemy can advance on us precipitously.
None of that is America's fault.
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"In response to first question, address GWB as incompetent and a fool and then
take out "The PET Goat" from the podium and keep reading for nine minutes"........"Scalia is a nut job with wierd [sic] ideas abut constitutional law...."
Ah yes...the old Homer-Simpson-after-he-found-out-his-mom-was-a-
hippie styled "FREAK OUT the establishment, dude!" strategy. Very good!
And that "I have to, like, condescend to this guy? He's like, really really old? and he's a Justice of the Court, or something like that? You know? But he's got, like, these really really weird ideas about, like, the Constitution and stuff? So I think he's a real..um...blowhole. You know?" attitude.... That'll carry you far!
Keep up the good work, Eschatonians!
"The sad thing is, even though Scalia is a nut job with wierd ideas abut constitutional law, he has more commitment to the constitution and civil liberties"
Commitment? He is a TRAITOR. He is a disgrace to the bench, a liar, a scoundrel, and a thug. His commitment to the Constitution is ZERO.
You mistake the egotism of his desire to destroy it for a commitment to it. He's a clever boy, that bastard.
They're a bunch of clever boys. So were those Nazi bastards, their ancestors: Roverer and Scalialini.
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Make that: "Slow to respond (because of not wanting to be robbed of that concentration), the enemy can advance on us precipitously."
(distracted by the Sundance Al Franken show, once again).
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...Scalia quipped: “Would you rather have the president of the United States decided by the Supreme Court of Florida?”
Here's a term for ya Scalia: States Rights,.
Read up on it sometime fucktard.
Cheney is Blicero
Barry Freed
That's an insult to Blicero. A least Blicero felt things, however terrible. Cheney doesn't have the luxury of emotion. Gets in the way of business.
Gwyne Dyer (spelling?) wrote an editorial two years ago saying that Bush will probably be re-elected, but driven out of office in 2006.
If Bush and crew bring an economic disaster to America in the next two years, "I told you so" will be small satisfaction.
Intriguing . . . The number he chose as an appropriate number for "private" group sex -- 5 -- was the number of the majority in Bush v. Gore. Hmm.
If you think I'm really for Nader, think again.
CAF
I suspected that you really were Nader, or at least someone sitting at the right hand of the Ralph-head.
Anyone who is pandering for Ralph in the fall of 2004 is a cultist or a Republican making believe.
Ralph Nader is one of the dangers of progressive politics, a person who uses leftish politics primarily as a vehicle for their own ego. These people, Hitchens is another good example, can usually be counted on to sell out to the right when they decide that another vehicle would suit their purposese better. If they manage to form a cult of personality of leftish types most of those can be counted on to give up their ideals for their chosen deity.
And Nader seems to have the god-complex ego disease to an unusual extent.
"And Nader seems to have the god-complex ego disease to an unusual extent.
EPT"
That may all be true, EPT, but surely you're not saying that it is OK for EITHER of the party's to defraud or deny access to third parties.
When the Dems cut Nader out of the debates in 2000, they shot themselves in the foot. Not only didn't they have Ralph getting Bush offguard, but when the shit went down, Ralph wasn't in the fight, which could have helpd turn the tide against a single well-placed riot in a county in Florida.
We need third parties, and guess what? The R party is about to split in half, and it may be that Ralph and the real Rs find a lot in common. We've had lots of third parties in the history of the country, and a lot of weird people have run.
Hard to compare any of that to Bush. He seems to have crawled out of a boil on the crotch of Andrew Jackson.
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Scalia is an intense, if not devout, Catholic. His line about orgies is a gag to set up his judges-don't-do-morals line.
That may all be true, EPT, but surely you're not saying that it is OK for EITHER of the party's to defraud or deny access to third parties.
What third party? Ralph is the candidate of a phony party, Reform, as the result of backroom deals made with the likes of Buchanan, Fulani and other assorted nuts and Nazis. They "chose" him as a result of a conference call.
Nice, isn't it, that there is such a champion of democracy and ethics in public life that is an alternative to Kerry?. Kerry, a man who was chosen by millions of voters through a long process of primaries.
The Reform party began as an extension of Perot's ego, continued as an extension of Buchanan's and will, I hope, die as an extension of Ralph Nader's.
The Greens learned their lesson, they might just have a future.
Is that what the honorable High Court Justices do to deal with stress on the job? I've always wondered.
The real question I suppose is who would go down on who, and in what manner.
That settles it though, I'd never be a Chief Justice myself. I couldn't stand the thought of giving or receiving gratification from the sleazy Antonin. Actually, the more I think of it, I'd never be able to get it on with any of them. So, I guess I'll never make it in the court system.
He asked—rhetorically—how many individuals would have to be involved in a sex act for it to no longer qualify as “private.”
“Presumably it is some number between five and the number of people required to fill the Coliseum,” Scalia joked.
Well, rhetorically, how many individuals would have to be involved in anything for it to no longer qualify as “private.” So is he saying that if I have 20 people over for a BBQ it's no longer a "private" event? Is there really no such thing as a "private" event once you include more than five people? Here and I thought that conservatives wanted government intrusion out of people's private lives.
Hey Scalia, ever hear of this?
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble,"
I guess in his copy there must be an astericks by that last part that says *Not to excede five people.
Scalia is an intense, if not devout, Catholic. His line about orgies is a gag to set up his judges-don't-do-morals line.
Despite his emetic appearances at "Red Masses" and his carefully cultivated image, there are many Catholics who would not see him as a devout Catholic. Not since the counter-reformation at least. His personal views are likely to lead to vices like those found during the reigns of the worst of the Renissance popes and princes than to a world in line hoped for in Vatican II.
EPT- speaking of Catholics and such, did you see the very good commentary in the Boston Globe yesterday from a fellow Church go-er of John Kerry? He attested to Kerry's deeply held Catholic values, and how Kerry really represents the hope of many Vatican II Catholics.
It was widely circulated among my church's list serve.
Eww. Ew. Ick.
Danny DeVito IS Justice Antonin Scalia in Eyes Wide Shut II - Electric Boogaloo
Damn, did I miss the train...
That's my kind of guy!
I'm Antonin Scalia, bitch. Enjoy yourself.
Hold my drink, bitch.
Cocaine is a hell of a drug...hehehe
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What did the five justices... say to democracy? Schlap!
Long live Dave Chapelle!
I think Karen Hughes said it. Page 216 of "Ten Minutes From Normal"? Right?
Earlier in the evening, Scalia ridiculed the European Court of Human Rights’ 2000 decision striking down British legislation that bars group gay sex on the grounds that the law intruded upon private life.
He asked—rhetorically—how many individuals would have to be involved in a sex act for it to no longer qualify as “private.”
“Presumably it is some number between five and the number of people required to fill the Coliseum,” Scalia joked.
Under the British law in question, the number of people who had to be "present" - by which I mean, in the same house - was one person in addition to the first two, even if they were not in the room at the time.
Kerry managed to vote for Scalia and against Souter. That is analogous to voting against Iraq War I and for Iraq War II. Well, at least Kerry's not Bush.
My head hurts.
No Justice, no piece.
Isn't *pride* one of the 7 deadly sins?
i've heard kerry defend his scalia vote in an interview before. he said at the time we thought scalia was a moderate.
i didn't believe him.
During oral arguments two weeks ago, he took shots at the Florida courts, which had said the most fundamental right in a democracy is the vote.
No way, Scalia said.
"There is no right of suffrage under Article II," he declared.
In plain English, he said that the citizens have no constitutional right to vote for President. His reason is that the Constitution places that power in the hands of the state legislatures, although he did not mention that all 50 state legislatures submit the question to a popular vote. (Some transcripts of the Supreme Court session attributed this remark to Rehnquist, but Scalia apparently was the actual speaker.)
It was widely circulated among my church's list serve.
Scandalized
Yes. I read it. Isn't it amazing that in 1960 the American right was afraid of the Vatican butting into American politics and in 2004 it's Catholics who have to worry about the American far-right controling the Vatican?
Now that's gives scandal to the church.
Why oh why oh y, are you still harping on about this?
So the guy's not as pure as the driven snow. Do you think anyone here thinks he is? Funny thing about perfect candidates, they never seem to make it to the nomination. Purists even found stuff to throw at McGovern, about as pure a candidate as you're going to find.
Anyone who is still pretending that this isn't a choice between two people is too silly to bother with. Either a flawed but not fascist Kerry or an entirely corrupt and fascist Bush.
Save it for the primaries in '08 or better '12.
You guys couldn't possibly be serious?
From that article, you conclude that Scalia advocates group sex?
You don't even are about what's true or what's real, do you? You just want to validate your anger at your boyfriend/girlfriend or your Dad.
Oh my God, we are all doomed. Thank God for the electoral college.
Scalia makes an error in this article that is beneath a 1L. He says that the 4th Amend. bars "unnecessary" searches and seizures, but that's wrong. It bars "unreasonable" searches and seizures. It may be "necessary," by some twisted illogic, to engage in racial profiling, but it can never be "reasonable" in our constitutional system.
And now I have caught myself making a mistake - I said above that Scalia made an "error," but his language was no mistake. He knows what he's saying, and the meanings of the words he uses. It was not an error - it was an honest expression of his own genuine opinion.
And yes, sad to say, Scalia is often one of the better Justices when it comes to the rights of the accused (his 6th Amend. jurisprudence is actually pretty good). Imagine what that must say about the worst of them! (Yes, Mr. Justice Rehnquist and Mr. Justice Thomas, I'm talking about you.)
Withnail:
I'm with you, I immediately thought of The Governator when reading the quote! My next thought was was, "Heyyyyyy! Party Time! It's on like Donkey Kong!"
Damn. Thought it was gonna be Santorum.
CAF - have you though about moving to Iran? Elections there are conveniently rigged in favor of conservatives!
I am now having very disturbing thoughts about what happens on Scalia's hunting trips with Cheney . . .
EPT
what's with the ash and hairshirt act? i never said kerry had to be perfect. nor do i expect him to. a couple of people up thread commented on the kerry's scalia vote and i threw my lousy 2 cents in.
just because i bitch about kerry, don't read that as some kind of tacit endorsement of bush. i wouldn't vote for that monster if you threatened me.
i'm holding my nose and voting for kerry, ok? i don't have to love kerry in order to vote for him. i don't have to go into denial and project some kind of idealized, mythical version of the man that doesn't square with reality either.
Kerry could be a better President than anybody we've run in a long time, probably since Kennedy. As for the Scalia vote, that was before my time, but I remember Souter's nomination. Everyone on the left opposed it - remember the "STOP Souter or Women will Die!" signs? Turned out he was moderate to liberal. Everyone was shocked when he ended up supporting Roe v Wade. You never really know where these guys will end up once they get to the Court.
Bill Hicks should have lived to read
this. He has a brilliant bit on "Relentless"
where he worries that he could never
be approved for the Supreme Court because
of his vast porno collection.
Who was it that said political satire
was officially impossible because real
life moves to quickly for satirists to keep up?
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