I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
O so rude! But fun.
Frist
I would give a liver to hear Big John give a bitch-slapping like that.
NOt MY liver, of course, but a liver, nonetheless.
Can we just reprint the comment thread from the last Rude Pundit post?
I don't think we're going to top that...
Rude rocks.
Here's a good quote from Edwards...re: the WMD report spin by chainy.
"They are willing to say left is right and up is down. The vice president, Dick Cheney, and the president need to recognize that the Earth is actually round and that the sun is rising in the east."
rolled the dice and came up snakes eyes, motherfucker. that really says it all.
kerry would have played a more intelligent game.
Man o man, what I would pay to see/hear Kerry do this.
OT: Just heard on AAR news that the Swifties contributed to the Nader campaign.
I dunno, given the gravity of Bush's incompetence, I kinda think Rude Pundit let him off easy.
it's snake eyes, motherfucker, it's snake eyes
That one's a keeper. Works on so many levels...
Oh, what I'd give to have the Rude Pundit moderate the last "debate". Bush would be crawling around on the stage on his hands and knees after fifteen minutes of grilling, crying like a bitch and begging for Tony Montana to lay our a meter of ahyo to snort. They could hold the election right then and there and get it over with . . ..
Global Test:
When the engagement is over, will the United States still be the moral beacon for the world?
"Snake eyes" isn't rude, it's a good catch phrase!
How do you think he really feels?
All fun and joke aside, he should say something like this:
"Well, as much as this administration would like it to be so, we do not exist in a vacuum. If we want others to assist us, if we want our mission to enjoy legitimacy and support, we need credibility, and that is what this administration, through the half-truths it has foisted on us, so sorely lacks: credibility. That is what I meant by the global test."
Like it? Don't like it?
Kerry should say:
"Sir, the Pentagon’s Nuclear Weapons Personnel Reliability Programme demands that nobody within the nuclear chain of command has ever taken cocaine, and that any recovering alcoholics have checked into a military rehabilitation programme. Mister President, have to ever taken cocaine, and have you checked into a military rehabilitation programme?"
hmmm...Bush says now it came down to "intent." Saddam "intended" to acquire WMD, and that was reason enough to create chaos in the Middle East (didn't even think that was possible, but Bush proved he could do it).
And yet, per Amy Goodman, David Kay told the "Today" show that Hussein was delusional. Of course he had intent, Kay said (more or less), but intent without ability means nothing. Hussein never had the ability.
Will Kerry mention this tonight? Somehow, I think he will.
Bush is toast.
Damn! Now that's a send-off to work!
Wonder if I should pass it around to all my co-workers...
and for more on FEAR and Global Tests,
In short, given a choice between being powerful and being safe, the Americans will have chosen power. They will have decided that global supremacy is more important to them than being either liked or respected.
i like that cattle prod idea too.
I love the Rude Pundit's version, but of course Kerry couldn't say that on TV.
I'd just like it if he referred to the Declaration of Independence: "A decent respect for the opinions of mankind." And he might make sure that he refers to it specifically as the Declaration of Independence, because I'm sure otherwise Bush wouldn't know what it's from.
I'd like that, but I'll gladly settle for the suggestion several folks made yesterday. Kerry could remind Bush that our forefathers liked the global test idea pretty well, too:
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation
Seriously, though, this is the one thing he'd better be prepared to address or all the pundits will score this one a win for Bush just to keep a horserace going.
... and they call this guy "rude" exactly why? 
My God, I think we're gonna do it. We're gonna save the goddamn world from BushCo.
"Snake eyes" isn't rude, it's a good catch phrase!
"Motherfucker" is still pretty rude, though.
Saddam said repeatedly he had no WMD, and Bush insisted he was lying. Now we all know Bush was the liar.
I am sickened that a delusional tin horn dictator is more honest with the American people than our own president.
It's time for Bush to go - I don't even want the guy in Texas. Realistically, he should be seeking asylum in another country because he is an embarassment to our nation.
Well, some day, I fully intend to go back to work, I do, in my heart I do intend to. So where's my paycheck now, based on that?
mmm...toast....
"Motherfucker" is still pretty rude, though
Not if truth is a defense to rudeness.
He forgot poland.
http://www.youforgotpoland.com/
It's time for Bush to go - I don't even want the guy in Texas. Realistically, he should be seeking asylum in another country because he is an embarassment to our nation.
I for one have no problem if Texas wants to secede, as long as Austin gets an independent, Berlin-like status.
Scrape away the "rudeness," this is very definitely the "bottom line," and put as clearly and plainly as it can be:
But the world is burning. The world is burning and that fire's gonna consume us all. It's gonna end up back here in America. And while Bush may be hosing this country, he doesn't have a hydrant big enough to extinguish the flames he's fanned. And besides, why would you trust the arsonist to put out the fires?"
The world is not burning because of 9/11. The world is burning because of "Operation Enduring Freedom" (and did anyone hear Nina Totenberg talk about the Nat. Guard soldier back form that splendid little exercise, who was banned from a Bush campaign appearance? Irony is a bitch.). The world is burning because Bush is the arsonist.
He hasn't made us safer. He's put us at greater risk. The only safe course is to toss him out of the White House and hope the next occupant won't be as stupid, arrogant, or blindly ideological. It's a low bar, and Kerry is starting to show he not only clears it, but deserves the office.
He deserves to be President. He may well be able to save us from our own blind folly, from the idiocy of men who declare that those who raise false specters of lost liberties aid the terrorists; from those who...hell, you know who I'm talking about.
Bush is toast.
I dunno, given the gravity of Bush's incompetence, I kinda think Rude Pundit let him off easy.
Stinky |
You didn't read his last one, did you?
RP needs to work on expressing himself more forcefully, me thinks.
Damned tags.
mmm...toast....
mmmm...marmalade.....
Rude Pundit is such a nice way to start the day. I have to agree that he didn't improve any on the Cheney debate post, however. That one was obviously a personal best for the Rude one. I really don't think it would be possible to do any better than shoving everything up Cheney's ass, including shoving the pissant who calls himself our preznit up there.
I'd pay money to hear two questions out of the audience tonight:
"Mr President, why have you skipped your annual physical this year?"
&
"Mr. President, how many times have you been arrested, and are you high right now?"
(Ok, that was 2 questions in 1. I"ll pay more, ok?)
I'd like to hear Kerry say at one of the debates:
By the way, I'm not just your "opponent." From now on I would appreciate it if you would refer to me as Senator Kerry, since I've been a member of the United States Senate for longer than you've been a recovered drunk.
To the Hague, in chains. Along with the rest of his misbegotten thugs. With a note saying "We're sorry. Signed, the US."
BTW, did anyone catch last night's ER, with the soldier back from Iraq?
Heartbreaking stuff.
Well, Kerry could quote the Declaration of Independence:
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
In short, given a choice between being powerful and being safe, the Americans will have chosen power. They will have decided that global supremacy is more important to them than being either liked or respected.
And the cognitive dissonance is being caused by the conflict of that belief with the reality on the ground in Iraq.
The "most powerful military in the world" ground to a halt by car bombs. Sure, we could put more troops in. But how is that gonna stop the car bombs?
If we secure Iraq with 500,000 troops say (yes, I just pulled a number from the air), how do they secure it? Martial law? Summary executions? Mass arrests? Ban all cars and public travel (to get the suicide bombers wearing overcoats)?
How do you secure a people who don't want to be secured by you, except through the continuous application of brute force? Somebody start passing around Orwell's "Shooting the Elephant." And Britain was a "benign" colonial power.
Do we really want to be feared? If so, why do we keep worrying about why nobody likes us?
and did anyone hear Nina Totenberg talk about the Nat. Guard soldier back form that splendid little exercise, who was banned from a Bush campaign appearance?
No, I did not. Robert M. Jeffers, any more details? This is fucking wack and ought to get lots more play. Bush is keeping vets out of his campaign appearances???
Hey, DNC, would you please use some of the money I've sent you to make a frigging ad about this and run it 24/7?
Nobody kicks more ass than the Rude Pundit.
doG, I love the Rude Pundit. I'd say Bushco is 3rd and goal from the 42-yard line, and their quarterback has a concussion.
Cautiously optimistic. That's what my depressive progressive friends are saying now. Me? I'm jumping up and down on the couch yelling "Jen-ga! Jen-ga! Jen-ga!" That tower o' trash is coming down!!!!!!!
As a matter of taste, I liked the "shove aluminum tubes up Cheney's ass" meme a little better than this screed. But it'll do.
Rude Pundit is truly a poet. He captures the fury, scorn and utter pornographic comtempt so many of us have for SmirkChimpCo. I really don't know, heaven forbid, what I will do if he ever stops blogging. He's an artiste of the highest manner.
Mars Bitches.
I guess this would signal the end of the touchy feely, politically correct, girly man, Left. Maybe it's slightly over the top, but why not annouce it loud clear right into Karl Rove's headphones
By the way, I'm not just your "opponent." From now on I would appreciate it if you would refer to me as Senator Kerry, since I've been a member of the United States Senate for longer than you've been a recovered drunk.
YES!
Oh, I would pay to hear Kerry say that.
Saddam had the intent to yada.
Bush has the intent to get reelected.
Ergo, Kerry has the right to preemptively rip him apart.
Oh dude! You want to see something offensive, click on this.
Thanks to Michael Benson commenting at Orcinus for the link.
Let me frame this so Mr. President can clearly understand it. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, won't get fooled again. The people of America and the world won't get fooled again by one of your bait and switch wars. That's failing the global test. You have no credibility in the world Mr. President.
I don't know, he isn't any ruder than Cheney. Plus, he's telling the truth where Cheney is rude AND a pathological liar.
Rude is right but rather... rude. John has to make the country see that we are in deep shit due to this ape Bush and we'll be lucky to keep the damage localized to Iraq. The world's fat is in the fire and they know it. That's a global test.
Good, but not nearly rude enough.
C'mon Rude, less than a month until the election. Time to take the kid gloves off.
Hecate--
Nina did an EXCELLENT report (yes, I know I'm shouting) this morning on the Bush campaign. Check the NPR website, it may be up; or it may be repeated on ATC this p.m.
She started in a very balanced way, giving both campaigns equal time, even allowing the Bush campaign chair full quotes refuting the idea that they screened attendees at their rallies.
Then she ran interviews, with quotes, from several people around the country. The Nat. Guard was just one. The telling one was a teenager who went to a rally with his friend and his friend's dad. Teen pulled out a wallet with a Kerry sticker on it, and was immediately told he'd been identified as a "threat" and had to leave. The dad said "I can vouch for him," and Dad was told that he was now a threat by association, and needed to leave, too.
Also many stories of the Secret Service being used either directly, or as a threat, to exclude people. Many were told to leave, or be arrested.
It ended with a quote from a distinguished professor of Poli-Sci at the GHWBush school at Texas A&M, saying this was not the way democracy functions.
Killer piece. And absolutely unimpeachable.
Love the Rude Pundit's take but here's a less obscene explanation:
The press has been presenting the argument as being over whether the US should take a "global test," with Kerry cast as the one who says Yes, and Bush as the one who declares No. It seems obvious, in my humble opinion, that this is the wrong question: Every administration takes a global test with every action, including the Bush administration. What Colin L. Powell was doing at the UN before the Iraq war, trying to convince the world that Iraq was a threat, was taking a global test. What Senator Kerry quite clearly argues is that the Bush administration failed this global test of credibility, and that under his administration when our government presents evidence to the world for action we're about to take, the evidence will stand up as credible.
Here is what I mean by a global test...
Suppose the US uncovers information that North Korea is massing troops at the DMZ, and intends to attack South Korea.
With all of missteps, bad planning, obfuscations, shifting justifications and deliberate misleading this administration is guilty of in Iraq, who in the world will stand resolutely with this president to face this new threat?
When dishonesty and incompetance are the coin of your kingdom, you lose legitimacy in the eyes of the world. This President, through his own words and actions, has squandered our moral leadership in the world. That President has failed the global test. America is less safe as a result.
I don't understand why K&E have such difficulty answering the "global test" red herring. It's rather straightforward - before you do anything, you need to make sure that it doesn't ruin your credibility with the world - the "global test" of American leadership.
Fuck, how could Kerry use that DeGaulle/Kennedy "blind trust" anecdote and not make that connection? Is he just regurgiating lines?
now, that's shrill!
Here's what Kerry meant by a "global test:" What every President has done since Woodrow Wilson decided we need to get involved in world affairs. What every president has done since James Monroe announced his Monroe Doctrine. What every President has done since December 6, 1941, the first time "everything changed."
That's what he meant. Nothing more. Nothing less.
When the two of them shake hands Kerry should lean over and put his hand on the Moron's back right where he has the transmitter and whisper in his ear "Georgie, I know you're having the answers given to you, and during my closing statement I'm going to tell the whole world about it." The Moron will shit all over himself and the debate will be cancelled.
After Kerry finished this rant..
A good exclamation point to show the new attitude from the left would be to have Wolf Blitzer rolling across the stage tied up in a wheelchair engulfed in flames, right out of Red Dragon/Hannibal
Well put, but Kerry should add some vitriol to it..
Well! I think this sort of answer is very rude! It far exceeds the 90-second response time in the debate rules!
Rude Pundit for White House Press Secretary!
Amen. Falstaf.
My Question:
Mr. President, If the time should come during your presidency to defend our nation against foreign aggression through the use of nuclear weapons, will VP Cheney allow you access to the launch codes?
A. blink, blink, blink....
Followup:
Are you aware that as president you are the one that has to launch a nuclear strike?
A. Why of course I know that Sad...Osama bin Laden attacked America...there's another answer coming to my head but it ain't there yet...won't get fooled again...[blank stare]...why, my opponent voted for higher gasoline taxes 3,456,292 times...wha?....
Follow up to the follow up:
Mr. President, would you be sober?
A. Wait a minute, let me finish blink, blink [blank stare]...[crickets chirping]...
Follow up to the follow up to the follow up:
Would you ever launch a pre-emptive nuclear strike against another nation based on your assessment of the inteligence given you?
A. Now you know I'm resolute, I'm strong, I'm a man of deep morale convictions, people know what I'm thinkin', when I'm thinkin' it and where I stand...at all times...let me make it clear see, we must take the battle to the enemy...bring em on...ya just gotta know that I know how the world works...I will seek no global test!
Awesome and beautiful anger. Word of warning though: you may feel so inclined to aim that anger in Kerry's direction if he decides to escalate the war and then follows through with it, as he is proposing now.
Oh dude! You want to see something offensive, click on this.
Thanks to Michael Benson commenting at Orcinus for the link.
Steven D
look like war crimes to me, dude.
god help us.
I heart Rude Pundit. Someone point him at DeLay!
...a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them...
Why does George W Bush hate America?
Dom is exactly right.
What is so confusing and what does the test have to do with coalitions, approval, any of that.
The strangely enigmatic and mysterious global test is simply the notion that you have to prove to people in America and the rest of the world that the president took preemptive action for a legitimate reason.
Unlike what this one did.
I don't get what's so hard to understand.
Robert good advice. Shooting an Elephant
By George Orwell
Kerry should make a comparison of the way Bush ran the oil businesses he owned with the way he's running the country. Bush left stock holders holding the bag when he sold these companies out from under them after not finding any oil. One of the businesses was sold without notifying the public stock holders. Republicans made Bill Clinton's and Al Gore's entire lives their business. It's time for democrats to fight back. People who live in glass houses.....
The global test is simple: don't lie to the rest of the globe.
Dom,
It isn't just about maintaining credibility in the world, as far as a global test is concerned. It's about maintaining your sense of integrity with yourself. That is why Bush had trouble defending himself in the debate.
Credibility, unfortunately, can be maintained with the world with destructive acts. That is how the concept of "justified war" was started.
Here's the end bit (emph mine):
Afterwards, of course, there were endless discussions about the shooting of the elephant. The owner was furious, but he was only an Indian and could do nothing. Besides, legally I had done the right thing, for a mad elephant has to be killed, like a mad dog, if its owner fails to control it. Among the Europeans opinion was divided. The older men said I was right, the younger men said it was a damn shame to shoot an elephant for killing a coolie, because an elephant was worth more than any damn Coringhee coolie. And afterwards I was very glad that the coolie had been killed; it put me legally in the right and it gave me a sufficient pretext for shooting the elephant. I often wondered whether any of the others grasped that I had done it solely to avoid looking a fool.
All hilarity aside (and it was hilarious), does the Kerry camp read any of this?? I sure hope they do -- many of the responses here are truly excellent. Using the language from the Declaration of Independence -- fabulous! Bitch-slapping Bush politely and for TV consumption but with the intent and subtext from Rude Pundit -- absolutely necessary tonight.
I often wondered whether any of the others grasped that I had done it solely to avoid looking a fool.
The very reason, of course, Shrub went into Iraq.
But who dares admit that was our public policy?
OT -- FROM EARLIER THREAD: Please go read this comment from Gar Lipow (Senator mentioned is John, not Tom, Warner);
http://tinyurl.com/6ayet
Then follow link in his post (also provided below) to learn more.
http://tinyurl.com/6bwcv
Then call House and Senate chairs (numbers provided in linked article) and let them know you oppose Warner's amendment to ban off-shore wind energy development AND that you oppose tactics used to pass legislation with out time for due deliberation and informed debate -- ESPECIALLY on such an important issue as our energy future.
We need to use the info we gain from Atrios' site to take action -- Let our elected officials know we're watching them; make those calls now . . .
The global test is even simpler: "Don't let your mouth write checks that your ass can't cash."
I think the meaning of the "Global Test" is simple: we act in such a way that we don't become terrorists ourselves in the eyes of the rest of the world.
I should say, in connection with that quote from Orwell, that he explicitly links his action to the fact that he was an official of the Empire (albeit a lowly one), and that his act was "justified" because it was carried out on behalf of the Empire.
That's the friction between his action, and its justification. It is not, in fact, justified at all. He does it to preserve the appearance of Imperial power (albeit, again, in a vanishingly insignificant matter; then again, one thread unravels the tapestry). And the reason I connected Orwell's statement, to Bush's actions.
The connection is quite direct. And quite deliberate.
But the Britains never quite admitted it, either. Nor do I expect us to. Not before, at least, we publicly admit that the near extermination of the Native Americans in the 19th century was something more than "bad judgment."
The very reason, of course, Shrub went into Iraq.
I thought about this as well, but I cringe at making Saddam the elephant to Bush's Orwell.
re: the term "global." When I heard it the first time in context, I took it to mean "comprehensive" or "universal" rather than "international." In other words, does this action pass the universal understanding (first in the US, then around the world) of what constitutes a legitimate war. Look to the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, previous wars (those that did and those that didn't pass the "smell" test), look at resources, end-game, goals, etc. to determine if - whatever happens - we can look ourselves, the world, our God in the eye and say: "We had to do this as a last resort for the greater good." Obviously, none of these things were considered by Bush & Co. before going forward. If only Congress had put up a bigger fight . . .
I'm off to a meeting.
The world is burning, ma'am, do you fuckin' get that? The goddamned world is burning. And much as the Bush bitch would like you to believe that I'm co-responsible for the world burning, the world is burning on his watch. Your question is born of fear, ma'am. And that lying cockmonger over there has been very, very good at stoking your fears. It's his goal. But the world is burning. The world is burning and that fire's gonna consume us all. It's gonna end up back here in America. And while Bush may be hosing this country, he doesn't have a hydrant big enough to extinguish the flames he's fanned. And besides, why would you trust the arsonist to put out the fires?
He could almost say this, if he omitted the word "cockmonger."
A.
I thought about this as well, but I cringe at making Saddam the elephant to Bush's Orwell.
True, true. Like most analogies, the point by point is less than perfect.
But close enough is sometimes good enough. And where Orwell, in is minor status, exemplified what was needed to sustain Empire from the ground up, Bush exemplifies the hubris or would-be empire builders, and the folly they lead their nations to.
So maybe it's more of a compare/contrast than analogy.
The global test is even simpler: "Don't let your mouth write checks that your ass can't cash."
Don't let your mouth write checks that your have to send other people's asses overseas to cash.
A.
Orwell = Colin Powell, the media, and the other Bush Co enablers
The Burmans = The Neocons and their powerful, wealthy friends.
The Elephant = Us.
"karl rove screaming in your ear"
good to see the hidden earpiece meme getting more and more traction each day 
god what i'd give to read a history of these times 20, 50, 100 years from now.
rude will be considered just as much a primary source as the nyt or the wsj or editorial cartoons of the past. never in history have so many people's living breathing observations of life as we're living it been recorded.
I don't understand why K&E have such difficulty answering the "global test" red herring.
Simply put, they haven't had the chance yet. Bush rolled this one out in his stump speech after the first debate, and revelled in the boos the mention of France evoked from his loyal audiences.
I get the feeling that Kerry will rebut it nicely tonight, in terms that anyone paying attention will be able to comprehend.
It'd be nice if he slipped in that 'snake eyes, motherfucker,' but I'm not counting on it.
Distilled Rude Pundit:
"...why would you trust the arsonist to put out the fires?"
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That says it all, and I could almost see Big John saying that tonight.
Athenae: Yes. Alas, Bush's own ass will be the last to suffer, so insulated are he and his friends. And at its worst, unless we get lucky, his suffering will not be of the same kind as that which 99.9% of all Iraqis go through every damn day because of him.
AtlantaMom cites the Declaration of Independence - let me add to that by noting the opening passage:
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
So there you have it - the Founding Fathers submitted the arguments in justification of our very existence as an independent nation to a global test.
"I don't understand why K&E have such difficulty answering the global test red herring."
Simply put, they haven't had the chance yet. Bush rolled this one out in his stump speech after the first debate, and revelled in the boos the mention of France evoked from his loyal audiences.
Actually click on HomePage to see a post I put up on MediaMatters comments section (Media misinformation you've seen, heard, and read) about Kerry Campaign guy Michael Meehan going on Capitol Report on CNBC and
doing a terrible job of defending this quote. He really looked like he was trying to defend a flub by Kerry instead of laying out the simple rationale of what the global test really is. The guy should be fired for incompetence.
Sorry, the final paragraph was my reply to a fellow poster who made his comments excerpted in my second paragraph in response to another guy's comments in the first paragraph.
There is beauty in truth, no matter how rudely it is stated.
rude, but f**cking true.
Knowing Bushco, if Kerry did quote the Declaration of Independence, they would just spin that it proves him guilty of having a "pre 9/11 mindset"
speaking of memes, what's with the new mini-meme, or perhaps pre-meme, that Bush tried to float in response to Kerry taxing the rich. The one about "they'll just hire lawyers and accountants to stick it back to you"? I heard the Republican hack/surrogate at CNN's fake town hall meeting last night re-gurgitate again. I'm with John Stewart on this one....huh?
Kerry:
I believe that America must have a decent respect for the opinions of mankind. And I believe that if and when we engage in war, we must truthfully declare the causes which impelled us to undertake this most solemn action.
This is the essence of America, as first laid out in the Decelaration of Independence.
This is what I believe. And by failing to follow the wisdom of are founding fathers, my opponent has threatened our security and weakened our ability to lead the world to peace and prosperity for all.
Rude pundit sounds like Billmon's angry alter ego.
And don't you smirk at me, Bush bitch, or I'll drag you by your balls to the houses of every widow and every mom that's lost a kid and I'll yank down your panties and shove a cattle prod into your sack until you confess, motherfucker, you confess that you knew there were no weapons, that you knew al-Qaeda wasn't there, and that you just rolled the dice and hoped somethin' would turn up, but it's snake eyes, motherfucker, it's snake eyes. And I want you to stand there, pants around your ankles, as the mothers and widows spit on you or punch you or kick your sore nuts. Then I'll drag you around the world so you can grovel on the ground in front of every former ally who said you were wrong and you can bow down, head low, hands outstretched.
Oh, I'd love to hear Kerry say that. FOFLMAO.
Here is my Cameron moment.
"Ah the constitution? Oh it's so last century."--Ann Coulter.
Snake eye's motherfucker.
And who gave Washington and Jefferson the highest grade?
Uhhhhh.......that would be France.
Not rude, but here's how I see it:
On the “Global Test: I remember watching Kerry when he used this phrase. He hesitated and seemed to be searching for the right adjective. I thought he was going to use the phrase “smell test.” What I think Kerry was trying to say and certainly what is consistent with what he has said since then, is that he would apply a test to unilateral and/or preemptive incursions into other countries. Do they make sense? Are they based on accurate information? Do they help protect the security of the United States and Americans? Have we exhausted every other way to solve the problem? Do people in other countries, who our actions affect, understand and agree with, at least in principle, the reasons we’re resorting to military action? None of these are tests that, as far as I can tell, were used to check the reasons for going to into this disastrous war and occupation of Iraq.
I love that guy.
Question for Bush in the debate:
"Mr. President, prior to the invasion of Iraq, you were personally presented the very best evidence of Iraqi WMD in the Oval Office by a top CIA analyst. After the presentation, you said something like 'Sorry, that evidence wouldn't convince Joe Public.' Can you elaborate on that?"
Am I the only one who thinks that "but it's snake eyes, motherfucker, it's snake eyes" sounds a lot like Lewis Black on a very good day?
I
argh, stupid haloscan. I was saying,
I <3 the Rude Pundit.
bleiker, RMJ, thanx for the elephant, read that so many years ago, fits well with Steves video too.
i have never been an american exceptionalist, but i have always been glad i was born here, i don't even recognize this country anymore.
"we did iraq because we could, and we needed to bash some arab heads together" Thomas Freidman, talking to Tim Russert.
since the begining i have sensed there was something vaguely racist about this war. sadly, it's coming into focus....
Rude, but right!
And actually, not much worse than Jonah Goldberg's lates rant: http://tinyurl.com/68cu4
charley: "we did iraq because we could, and we needed to bash some arab heads together" Thomas Freidman, talking to Tim Russert.
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I don't know if that was his exact quote, but the image is haunting about bashed heads; especially after seeing the Nightline segment of a few days ago about the large numbers of soldier's sufferign severe brain injuries.
global test ≡ leadership
global test != asking for permission
global test ≈ sanity check
global test ≈ laugh test
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Shouldn't Kerry also have something to say about:
Absence of any energy policy which leaves us at mercy of skyrocketing oil prices?
Failure of Bush tax cuts to produce jobs in the numbers promised, while increasing the deficits drastically.
This is from one of the DKos diaries, but I'm trying to give this all the exposure possible:
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KERRY, Say this: "Mr. President, LISTEN to Yourself!"
by Pyewacket
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Thu Oct 7th, 2004 at 20:46:57 GMT
I'm as tired as the next guy of posts and diaries that say "Kerry will win the debate if he uses this zinger." I've also posted several just like that (of course mine were killer).
And yet, prior to the first debate several Kossacks pitched the, "Your father knew invading Iraq was a bad idea" tack that Kerry wound up using to great effect. Coincidence? Who knows?
Just in case, I posit this precision rhetorical bomb. Only five words long, this phrase carries with it the recent "Bush is in denial" theme as well as the "This man is a liar" vibe that lurks just below the surface of the new CIA report, Cheney's debate performance, Bush's "rose colored glasses" Iraq outlook, etc. [ED:Retitled]
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When Kerry is called upon for rebuttal to one of Bush's assertions that flies in the face of the facts (obviously there will be ample opportunity), he should turn to Bush and say:
"Mr. Bush, listen to yourself." Then, before an objection can be voiced to this direct form of address, he quickly turns to the audience member who posed the question and continues. "The President stands here and tells you he'd handle Iraq exactly the same way if he had to do it over again. This despite Paul Bremmer saying..."
Or:
"Mr. Bush, listen to yourself." Then: "The President has seen the same economic reports I have and yet he stands here with a straight face [HA!] and tells you the economy is good..."
The phrase also has the potential to be one of those annoying digs that could throw Bush off kilter suggesting, as it does, that he doesn't know what the hell he's talking about.
I can absolutely see "Mr. Bush, listen to yourself." being picked up by the media the way "There he goes again" was.
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Everyone go to http://www.dailykos.com/story/20.../164657/
176#150 and "recommend" this right now. Get it on the front page!
"Motherfucker" is still pretty rude, though.
But it is my very favorite epithet when I'm really mad. Rude Pundit rocks.
Tonight, Bush will try to make Kerry's 20 year Senate career an issue. What Kerry needs to say is, "I'm fully prepared to defend my Senate record, but we are deciding who is to be President of the US not who is to be the Senator from Massachusetts.
Sadly, the reason the Bush campaign has seized on "global test" is because it appeals to the hyper-nationalist, zenophobic American out there. And there are LOTS of them. It's just more of the bully swagger. For some reason this appeals to a lot of people. I think it all goes back to grade school mentality when kids who, rather than be the target of the bully's wrath, got in line behind him, joining in on picking on people and calling them names.
It's time to take the bully down, friends.
One simple question, any ideas on what exactly is a "cockmonger" ?
Every time I read something from Rude Pundit, I hear Denis Leary's voice doing the delivery. I wonder...
My dream Kerry zinger:
"The only people who have seen the 'compassion' in the 'compassionate conservative' personality of this President are multi millionaires who have been refunded millions in a form of a tax cut while after school programs and federal aid to the sates is being cut."
Watch Bush fidget as Kerry speaks tonight.
Sounds about right to me!
Yeah! Red meat! It's not just for dinner anymore.
Kerry gets to have his say tonight - Rude Pundit said it in a viscerally pleasing way. The standard is thruthfullness - how difficult is that to understand.
All the news on the ground is breaking Kerry's way - it's up to him to make that case forcefully tonight and if he does it is all over - ecept the whining and gnashing of teeth and lying and fear-mongering... did I forget anything?
A whoremonger is a pimp, and a fishmonger is someone who sells fish, so by extrapolation it should be pretty clear what a cockmonger is.
But as a literal insult, it makes even less sense than calling W a "motherfucker" (given his latent Oedipal tendencies).
Global Test?
Doesn't a policy of massive deficits put our economic future in foreign hands?
Well, yeah.
I think the other point that's getting missed is that Kerry changed tenses in the "global test" statement:
"Where you explain to your people what you are doing...and exmplain to the world why you did it."
Even if the "global test" is what Bushco is making it out to be, it's implied from this statement that you seek approval from your own people before you act and then be prepared to submit your reasons to international judgement after.
I don't even know if Kerry realizes he switched tenses or not. Tense use is so natural to native speakers that they do it almost unconsciously.
Oh, hell, fuck Kerry, let the Rude Pundit debate Bush! Shitfuck, I'd pay money to see that. Beat the Rassles all to Hell & gone. Blood on the floor!
what was so rude about that? Personally I find every miserable goddamn Bush-blowing talking monkey pundit on tv WAY more offensive than this...
also, is it so that a zoo somewhere in Texas is preparing for the return of it's chimp?
LOL! Its so cute when lefties talk tough.
Sadly, the reason the Bush campaign has seized on "global test" is because it appeals to the hyper-nationalist, zenophobic American out there.
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In other words, those Americans who don't hate their country like you do.
The Rude Pundit makes me blush, but in a good way. He is the voice of the blogosphere's id.
Why, when I read Rude Pundit's post, did I hear it in Sam Kinison's hoarse, screaming voice?
How come Rude Pundit sounds like a drill sargeant? Or a Jewish mother who has decided to go for cursing? For that matter is there a difference between a drill sargeant and Jewish mother with a potty mouth?
Anyway - as I have said before, we know GWB never received proper basic training ... after all, the first thing any drill sargeant would have done is to wipe that damned smirk off of Frat-boy McChimpy's face.
What times we live in when
The truth is rude.
In other words, those Americans who don't hate their country like you do.
Hmmm. I know I shouldn't feed the MOTHERFUCKING trolls, but I can't help it now. Hate my country? HATE MY COUNTRY??? I'm not the ASSHAT who wants to vote for a miserable failure who is responsible for THOUSANDS of deaths and THOUSANDS of maimings--all because he wanted to show the world that he was the big, fucking powerful man.
I travel constantly in Europe and am sorry to report that because of this administration and their miserable record, I am too embarrassed (and frightened) to tell anyone I am American. I want to be able to proudly say I am an American again. Which I'll be able to do on November 3rd, after Kerry kicks the liars' asses clear to hell.
Get the fuck out of here, Avestus and go play with your brain-dead pals at LGF. Oh, and bend over so I can shove Dick Cheney and George Bush up your ass where they can ROT and fill you with putrid gas.
Phew. This Rude Pundit stuff feels good (and sorry to Eschatonia for shouting, but I had to).
How come Rude Pundit sounds like a drill sargeant? Or a Jewish mother who has decided to go for cursing?
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He doesn't. He sounds like a 14 year old computer nerd, shaking his pale skinny fist at the computer screen and imitating the language he heard the guys who beat him up at school use =D
Actually, I thought the Rude guy did a good job of explaining this "global test" thing. Here is the G-rated version, and it's still coherent with the curse words removed:
'Global test' means that you can go anywhere in the world and talk to any person, and you can back your actions up.
Right on.
Tom
I travel constantly in Europe and am sorry to report that because of this administration and their miserable record, I am too embarrassed (and frightened) to tell anyone I am American.
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Thats okay, we are embarrassed that you are an American too. You should stay in Europe, since it's obvious they are your heroes anyway.
The Rude One rules! It's like my old man talking from the grave, God rest his soul. Joined the Marines at age 17 in 1939. Five years, five battle campaigns -- New Guinea, Goodenough Island, Peleliu, Okinawa, etc. I still hear him talking about seeing the bodies bobbing in the red surf as he drove his truck off the landing craft in the second wave at Peleliu - a "wrong battle, wrong time, wrong place." At least Roosevelt could argue it passed the global test, but even then it was a fucking tragedy.
Hope your sphincter is nice and loose, Avestus--old Dick is quite the chunky boy.
What times we live in when
The truth is rude.
Barry Freed
Barry, the truth has always been rude, cusswords or no...
The Rude One is a man after my own heart.
Now, that is REAL fuckin' political discourse . . . the kind that at least three and a half years of Bush Administration policies, evidence-immune GOP apologists, partisans, and winguts, and a lying whore media machine fuckin' are exactly worthy of.
Enough with cool, dispassionate and rational political discourse. That doesn't work with these motherfuckers. In fact, it's like casting pearls before swine. What these people need is a verbal kick in the teeth of the type that the Rude One routinely puts forth.
And all you atrios readers who have gotten on me in the past for my outrage and anger and habitual use of four letter words, well, here's my rejoinder to you:
Fuck you up your asses, bitches!!!
Oh, and °anonymous,° who likes to always post a message about who you really think I really am . . . if by chance you read this post of mine, know this: You're a fucking cowardly bitch if ever there was one.
Pardon my two previous posts but I always have trouble thinking straight whenever I have a cock up my ass and I'm down on all fours and barking like dog for the one who is driving it home.
Hey Avestus:
If you really love your country as much as you seem to imply that you do, then here's a suggestion as to how you can truly help it out:
Tonight, before you go to sleep, turn the water in your bathroom on so that it gets nice and warm. Stop up the tub and then climb inside. Once you've done this, take a razor blade and drag it across your wrists so that the blood comes gushing out. Also, resist any impulse to call 9-1-1.
Trust me, if you follow my advice, you will have done your country and all the rest of us a great service. I'll even call you a true patriot and you'll earn the respect of most everyone on this board.
Uncalled for, Jeremiah Elias at 5:27 p.m.
Avestus could do the country a better service by enlisting and volunteering for convoy escort in Iraq, thus relieving a genuine American.
In my head, Rude Pundit sounds like Denis Leary from about 12 years ago.
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