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Falafel!
Bill "SHUT UP" O'Reilly | Homepage | 10.16.04 - 9:00 pm | #

linky broken?
patrick | Homepage | 10.16.04 - 9:00 pm | #

Not showing up here.
sharksandwich | 10.16.04 - 9:01 pm | #

DUMP THE CHIMP!!!
No More Mr. Nice Guy! | Homepage | 10.16.04 - 9:02 pm | #

No linky, no laundry.
genoasail | 10.16.04 - 9:02 pm | #

What is that about, anyway? "Mars, my bitches"?
Riesz Fischer | 10.16.04 - 9:03 pm | #

Why does Atrios want a sign of a white square with a red x in the middle of it to go up on November 3rd?
blurb | 10.16.04 - 9:03 pm | #

Atrios needs to fix the link, but if you paste the url into your browser address bar it shows a picture of Mars. (Oh my bitches).
Riesz Fischer | 10.16.04 - 9:04 pm | #

Is this what you meant?

http://mars.tracker.nasa.gov/mars_large.jpg
Count Asterisk | 10.16.04 - 9:05 pm | #

blue box, question mark.

awol linkie.
Anonymous | 10.16.04 - 9:06 pm | #

NY 3

BOS 3

Johnny Damon drove it in!
Shaw Kenawe | 10.16.04 - 9:06 pm | #

I see Mars, try refreshing.
BlakNo1 | Homepage | 10.16.04 - 9:06 pm | #

Shaw Kenawe - I'm with you!
Withnail | 10.16.04 - 9:07 pm | #

Why does Atrios want a sign of a white square with a red x in the middle of it to go up on November 3rd?
blurb

Isn't it obvious?
Philalethes | Homepage | 10.16.04 - 9:08 pm | #

Get your ass to Mars!
Darwin | 10.16.04 - 9:08 pm | #

Is the picture a reference to the "crater good"?
Withnail | 10.16.04 - 9:10 pm | #

Slide # 48:
"Atrios' Symbol of Victory to be posted at 12:01 a.m., Nov. 3, 2004 -- "

Slide # 49:
"TO BE PROVIDED..."
alex | 10.16.04 - 9:11 pm | #

Molly Ivins on Cspan 2

Why does Mars look like a polyp in Cheney's rectum?
bebe rebozo | 10.16.04 - 9:12 pm | #

CARLSON: Wait. I thought you were going to be funny. Come on. Be funny.

STEWART: No. No. I'm not going to be your monkey.

...
YEAH!
Darryl Pearce | 10.16.04 - 9:13 pm | #

I can see Mars.

Does that mean I'm pure of heart?
The Boss of You | 10.16.04 - 9:13 pm | #

I get it - it's the "red planet."
Withnail | 10.16.04 - 9:14 pm | #

Manny Rameriz, bitches!!!!
Shaw Kenawe | 10.16.04 - 9:14 pm | #

Why does Mars look like a polyp in Cheney's rectum?

Limbaugh, not Cheney, had a cyst/polyp in his nether regions.

Right ailment, wrong asshole.
Mustard is Evil | 10.16.04 - 9:14 pm | #

Is the picture a reference to the "crater good"?

Oh! OW!
Yellow card!

One more like that, son, and I am going to have to ask you to leave the field.

(p.s.- it is the "red planet" after all....)
patrick | Homepage | 10.16.04 - 9:14 pm | #

Well if it is Mars, why does the top look like it has stitching like a ball?
Nancy | 10.16.04 - 9:15 pm | #

Let's hope that in the wee hours of the morning of Nov. 3, the sign goes out, oh my bitches...

Hope is not a plan, but we've got the fucking plan, bitches.

buh bye, georgie.

Worst. President. Evah.
pie | 10.16.04 - 9:16 pm | #

why does the top look like it has stitching like a ball?

That's where they put the broken link back together.
patrick | Homepage | 10.16.04 - 9:16 pm | #

It's very simple, folks.
George Bush, Jr. has said:

"Read my lips. No new draft."

Any questions?
Good. Now pass it on.
Libby Sosume | 10.16.04 - 9:17 pm | #

Mars is the god of War, it's the 4th planet, it's red,it has a polar icecap...I still don't get it.

What's with "bitches"?

Let's watch the language.

Thanx.
Anonymous | 10.16.04 - 9:17 pm | #

Mars, bitches!
Darryl Pearce | 10.16.04 - 9:17 pm | #

Get your ass to mars, biotch.
Old Hat | 10.16.04 - 9:17 pm | #

MARS BITCH !!!
David Ehrenstein | Homepage | 10.16.04 - 9:17 pm | #

Bitch, bitches!
Mustard is Evil | 10.16.04 - 9:18 pm | #

Let's watch the language.

Fuck you.

(I never used to swear. georgie drove me to it.)
pie | 10.16.04 - 9:19 pm | #

Appropriate, too, that Mars was the God of War (if I remember correctly).
Withnail | 10.16.04 - 9:19 pm | #

The Schwarzenegger was great!

Dubya's initial wish to go to Mars shows his ignorance of interplanetary travel.
Darryl Pearce | 10.16.04 - 9:20 pm | #

That falafel thingy looks like the legendary Hairy Taco the Prophet Gonzo predicted would be coming our way.
notbushcity | Homepage | 10.16.04 - 9:20 pm | #

Let's watch the language.

Fuck you.

Classic.
Old Hat | 10.16.04 - 9:20 pm | #

Hate to be preachy, but I hope that there is little, if any, activity on the progressive blogs for the next two weekends because bloggers are too busy working. Let's make Atrios, Kos, and the others very lonely for the next two weekends because we are canvassing, calling, fund raising, putting up signs, raising hell with the media, etc. This is an infantry campaign now friends and we'll win it or lose it in the streets.
I'm in a swing state and I will do whatever I can to make sure that we carry it. If we carry this state, we will win the election. It's winnable but requires a maximum effort.

I refuse to wake up the morning of November 3 (if I sleep at all) and wonder what more I could have done.

Let's stay off the blogs for the next two weeks than get together for a major league party on November 2 in cyberspace. It's worth everything.

Here endeth the sermon.
Toes | 10.16.04 - 9:20 pm | #

Tie game. The Red Sox play like a gaggle of republican pussies.
epoh | 10.16.04 - 9:20 pm | #

Ny Times endorsed Kerry! Totally expected but nice to read.
M | 10.16.04 - 9:20 pm | #

What is that about, anyway? "Mars, my bitches"?

Isn't it based on the "Black Bush" episode on the Chappelle show? (parodying Bush's "manned mission to Mars" mention in the 2004 State of the Union address)
Arthur Riddick | 10.16.04 - 9:20 pm | #

Telling this crowd to watch their language?BAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
BlakNo1 | Homepage | 10.16.04 - 9:20 pm | #

filkertom:

Well, mostly incantations and naked dancing. Does that count?
The Boss of You | 10.16.04 - 9:21 pm | #

epoh - respectfully, the Yankees are the very definition of Republican. Highest payroll, no facial hair, bad for baseball.
Withnail | 10.16.04 - 9:22 pm | #

On Election Night, when it's clear that Kerry and Edwards have won a stunning landslide victory, the entire Eschaton page should simply be a giant picture of Mars, bitch, a la "Bush Two Face."

And maybe a link to Arnie. Get your ass to Mars, bitch.
Old Hat | 10.16.04 - 9:22 pm | #

bebe, thanks for the tip. Molly is making me laugh till I cry.
Karin | 10.16.04 - 9:22 pm | #

The Reason I object to the over used term bitch:

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/1...nal/ 16rape.html
artnoize | 10.16.04 - 9:22 pm | #

Alright, I'll ask you one more time: WTF does "Mars, bitches" mean?

And if no one gives me a satisfactory answer I'll... I'll...

I'll vote for Smirky the Chimp!

I'm not kidding, so don't try to call my bluff!
Riesz Fischer | 10.16.04 - 9:23 pm | #

Is this a subliminable* message here.

Anyway...I found if that if you squint your eyes you can see a profile of Junior's face and upper body with hump in the dark area and the white spittle that was on the corner of his mouth from the other night.

Guess the answer TBP and TBA on November 3rd.
emal | 10.16.04 - 9:24 pm | #

"Tie game. The Red Sox play like a gaggle of republican pussies.
epoh"

Oh epoh, that hurt, that hurt!!!!

Arod, you suck.

Crap.
Shaw Kenawe | 10.16.04 - 9:25 pm | #

...for cryin' out loud, just enter "Mars bitch!" in GOOGLE!

...become an internet user!
Darryl Pearce | 10.16.04 - 9:26 pm | #

Mars is the God of War and Planet is the Sign of War.

"Let's hope that in the wee hours of the morning of Nov. 3, the sign goes out,..."

Let us hope this election is a landslide and the rule of the war mongers ends Nov 3rd. Carter vs. Reagan in 1980 was too close to call until the final days of the 1980 election when the undecides moved to Reagan.
aztrias | 10.16.04 - 9:26 pm | #

Riesz Fischer.

Google Dave Chappelle Mars Bitches.
pie | 10.16.04 - 9:26 pm | #

The Reason I object to the over used term bitch

What the hell does prison rape have to do with a very funny Dave Chappell sketch?

Wait.

It's coming to me.

Nothing.
Old Hat | 10.16.04 - 9:26 pm | #

What's that? What the earth will look like as a result of Bush's environmental policy?
Or just another broken unfunded promise from this administration?
Lis Riba | Homepage | 10.16.04 - 9:28 pm | #

I think the real question is, what will Woot choose as the victory boobie!?!
BSR | 10.16.04 - 9:29 pm | #

Or just another broken unfunded promise from this administration?

Yeah, like there's not gonna be a draft.

Come to papa, suckers.
pie | 10.16.04 - 9:30 pm | #

Holy shit. My pathetic little one-week-old blog got a comment from Pastabagel, of all people.

This isn't quite as glamorous as I'd dreamed.
Philalethes | Homepage | 10.16.04 - 9:31 pm | #

LOL!
Thanks, Atrios.
MattB | Homepage | 10.16.04 - 9:31 pm | #

I was just thinking in the last couple of weeks of the campaign every major news organization will probably have some sort of focus on the issues.

I know I saw something on CNN regarding a multi story program over a few days focussed on the issues. If we got together a schedule of these programs and what particular issue that is being cover on a particular day, we could have an e-mail campaign a couple of days before the program insisting on facts and not spin.

We could post all the facts regarding an issue and everybody could use it for points in a letter to the personality and station airing the program. I have tried looking up CNN’s schedule but am not having any luck, any ideas? Is this something worth getting behind?
Strephon | 10.16.04 - 9:33 pm | #

On a more serious Martian note, I don't understand why the Dems haven't been reminding people more about the whole Mars idiocy and mocking Bush mercilessly for it. It's a perfect set-up for any number of Shrumian domestic policy slams (e.g. "George Bush wants to cut funding for first-responders, veterans, and education, but wants to spend billions to send a man to... Mars?! You've gotta be kidding me..." And so on.)

Seriously, let's make the GOP our Mars bitches.
WendellGee | 10.16.04 - 9:34 pm | #

Atrios, you are getting too nuanced.
Hedley Lamarr | 10.16.04 - 9:34 pm | #

Mars' moons are definitely Republican: Phobos (Fear) and Deimos (Terror).

They're small, dim, easily forgotten, and go around in circles. And so are Mars' moons.
CapMidnight | 10.16.04 - 9:34 pm | #

Atrios, you are getting too nuanced.
Hedley Lamarr | 10.16.04 - 9:34 pm | #

Mars' moons are definitely Republican: Phobos (Fear) and Deimos (Terror).

They're small, dim, easily forgotten, and go around in circles. And so are Mars' moons.
CapMidnight | 10.16.04 - 9:34 pm | #

Atrios, you are getting too nuanced.
Hedley Lamarr | 10.16.04 - 9:34 pm | #

Mars' moons are definitely Republican: Phobos (Fear) and Deimos (Terror).

They're small, dim, easily forgotten, and go around in circles. And so are Mars' moons.
CapMidnight | 10.16.04 - 9:34 pm | #

Holy shit. My pathetic little one-week-old blog got a comment from Pastabagel, of all people.

He loves you, Philalethes. So do I.

Be right over.
pie | 10.16.04 - 9:35 pm | #

Rally Against Bush!

Bush is visiting New Jersey this Monday, October 18. He will appear at the Blue Barn recreation center in the Marlton section of Evesham, New Jersey. The NJ Democratic Party is organizing a rally to let Bush know that NJ is a Democratic State. Please organize a group of friends to go with you to the rally. Pass this information to everyone you know!

Time: 11:30AM, Monday, October 18
Location: 1001 Tuckerton Road, Evesham (Marlton section)

Directions from Princeton:
Take I-295 south. After approximately 32 miles, take exit to Rt.70 East (it may be marked as 36A and NJ-73 South).
Pass the "Marlton Circle" and a shopping center.
Turn Right onto N. Elmwood Rd.
Turn Left onto East Main Street.
East Main Street becomes Tuckerton Rd.
The Blue Barn Rec Center is on Tuckerton Rd.

It is 45 miles (from Princeton) and will take 55 minutes (or less).
If you want to carpool, please contact cfpa@peacecoalition.org
gnb | 10.16.04 - 9:36 pm | #

He loves you, Philalethes. So do I.

Be right over.

Me too, me too!

(boy, it's been a long day....)
Robert M. Jeffers | 10.16.04 - 9:37 pm | #

somehow "ares female canines!" just doesn't fall trippingly from the tongue.

-J.T.
JohnTomato | 10.16.04 - 9:37 pm | #

Philalethes...don't make me send Adrian Spindle your way.

/kidding.
'sconi | 10.16.04 - 9:38 pm | #

I love the smell of napalm in the morning........

It smells like VICTORY!
smalfish | Homepage | 10.16.04 - 9:42 pm | #

I got there first, neener,neener,neener!
Echidne | Homepage | 10.16.04 - 9:42 pm | #

I must say, the picture brings some gravity to the discussion.
Withnail | 10.16.04 - 9:42 pm | #

Philalethes,

I can't get onto your blog with my name. What am I doing wrong?
Shaw Kenawe | 10.16.04 - 9:43 pm | #

atrios i'm going to choke you

I CAN ONLY COME ONLINE EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, ON PUBLIC COMPUTERS

so i'm sick of you making these posts about which i HAVE NO FREAKIN CLUE

it hurts, atrios

S T O P I T

one, two lines of explanation! anything more than nothing! please!
I Hate Dali | 10.16.04 - 9:44 pm | #

maaarrrrrrrrrrrs mah li'l biiiiitchesssss!!!!!
n69n | Homepage | 10.16.04 - 9:45 pm | #

CapMidnight,

the moons of mars have very eccentric orbits.

see url link

-J.T.
JohnTomato | Homepage | 10.16.04 - 9:45 pm | #

Actually, if the reckless zealot right win ... we should all start the migration to Mars and put a flag on it for rational folks.
Ken Adams | 10.16.04 - 9:46 pm | #

I Hate Dali, read the damn comments.
pie | 10.16.04 - 9:47 pm | #

but do the terraformists want Kerry to win?
Starr Jones | 10.16.04 - 9:47 pm | #

Is the picture meant to give Bush his "Martian orders"?
Withnail | 10.16.04 - 9:47 pm | #

Thanks, pie.
Riesz Fischer | 10.16.04 - 9:49 pm | #

Chapelle is on right now!
def | Homepage | 10.16.04 - 9:49 pm | #

Colonel Fielding! Colonel Fielding!
Chauncy Gardner | 10.16.04 - 9:50 pm | #

Children,

"Mars! Bitches!" is a quote from Dave Chappelle doing his 'Black Bush' persona poking not so gentle fun at President for Strife, G W Bush.

Everything clear now? Good.

Ta-ta!
Atilla the Nun | 10.16.04 - 9:51 pm | #

If CSPAN repeats Molly Ivins, make sure you catch it. Just the thing to watch if you are feeling pessimistic.
Karin | 10.16.04 - 9:51 pm | #

Now CSPAN2 has Jimmy Breslin
Karin | 10.16.04 - 9:54 pm | #

the new york times has endorsed john kerry:

October 17, 2004
John Kerry for President

Senator John Kerry goes toward the election with a base that is built more on opposition to George W. Bush than loyalty to his own candidacy. But over the last year we have come to know Mr. Kerry as more than just an alternative to the status quo. We like what we've seen. He has qualities that could be the basis for a great chief executive, not just a modest improvement on the incumbent.

We have been impressed with Mr. Kerry's wide knowledge and clear thinking - something that became more apparent once he was reined in by that two-minute debate light. He is blessedly willing to re-evaluate decisions when conditions change. And while Mr. Kerry's service in Vietnam was first over-promoted and then over-pilloried, his entire life has been devoted to public service, from the war to a series of elected offices. He strikes us, above all, as a man with a strong moral core.

•

There is no denying that this race is mainly about Mr. Bush's disastrous tenure. Nearly four years ago, after the Supreme Court awarded him the presidency, Mr. Bush came into office amid popular expectation that he would acknowledge his lack of a mandate by sticking close to the center. Instead, he turned the government over to the radical right.
[...]

We look back on the past four years with hearts nearly breaking, both for the lives unnecessarily lost and for the opportunities so casually wasted. Time and again, history invited George W. Bush to play a heroic role, and time and again he chose the wrong course. We believe that with John Kerry as president, the nation will do better.

Voting for president is a leap of faith. A candidate can explain his positions in minute detail and wind up governing with a hostile Congress that refuses to let him deliver. A disaster can upend the best-laid plans. All citizens can do is mix guesswork and hope, examining what the candidates have done in the past, their apparent priorities and their general character. It's on those three grounds that we enthusiastically endorse John Kerry for president.
bkny | 10.16.04 - 9:54 pm | #

Here's another Mars bitch.
Darryl Pearce | 10.16.04 - 9:54 pm | #

the moons of mars have very eccentric orbits.

JohnTomato

"Eccentric" is also funnier than my post. Thanks!
CapMidnight | 10.16.04 - 9:54 pm | #

I am sure this has been noted before, but has anyone noticed the Guardian as on the left using Glenn Reynolds to pitch the Guardian!!!

On this site!!!

Heh! Indeed!
a snake a snake eww a snake | 10.16.04 - 9:55 pm | #

it hurts, atrios

Anyone that hates Dali deserves to suffer a little.
Central Scrutinizer | 10.16.04 - 9:56 pm | #

I thought that this was an enlargement of a pimple on Bush's backside or something. But either place would be fine as a destination for all the wingnuts. I can always dream.
Echidne | Homepage | 10.16.04 - 9:56 pm | #

Echidne,

The formatting on your blog seems to be askew.

I have OSX.

And Phila--

That piece on Laura Bush is a stitch!

============
Lou_Tullio | 10.16.04 - 9:57 pm | #

Bos 6

NY 6

Cabrera! Yes!

It's gonna be a long night for the bull pen.
Shaw Kenawe | 10.16.04 - 9:58 pm | #

Bitch, Bitch!

Atrios, or whomever, is that an ozone hole in Mars ALREADY? Shit! I thought Whistle Ass was only trying to destroy planet Earth.
bigvic | 10.16.04 - 9:59 pm | #

Went canvassing today. We've got the ground game. We're going to win.
Aethern | Homepage | 10.16.04 - 9:59 pm | #

from Ruy Teixeira @ Donkey Rising...

Inside Scoop on Rove's View of the Election
By Alan Abramowitz
October 16, 2004

I just received the following message from a colleague at another university who is totally trustworthy:

"I have friend who is a co-chair of the Bush Cheney campaign. Rove believes that Bush needs to have a 4 point lead going into the last weekend to win given the undecideds that will break againt the president."
standa | 10.16.04 - 10:00 pm | #

Are there lesbians on Mars?
Anonymous | 10.16.04 - 10:00 pm | #

Lou_Tullio, the formatting is wrong on certain browsers. I asked for advice, and the blogger said that they can't fix it without making it wrong for the most common browsers. That's the place where I am right now with this problem. Sorry about it.
Echidne | Homepage | 10.16.04 - 10:01 pm | #

A 4 point lead in this enviroment is insurmountable!
smalfish | Homepage | 10.16.04 - 10:03 pm | #

Aethern, nice work.

Keep at it.
pie | 10.16.04 - 10:04 pm | #

Even a man who is pure in heart
and says his prayers by night,
May become a wolf when the wolf bane blooms
and the moon is full and bright. ...

Lycanthropy! Bi-otchs!
Lon Chaney, Jr. | 10.16.04 - 10:04 pm | #

I'll add another vote: Drop the mars bitches crap. Chappelle isn't that funny, and it definitely isn't funny out of context.

While everyone was screwing around with pathetic satires, the 1100th dead US soldier was counted. This isn't a TV comedy, this is real life. Treat it seriously.
charlie don't surf | Homepage | 10.16.04 - 10:05 pm | #

Good on you, Aethern.
Phredd | 10.16.04 - 10:06 pm | #

Echidne,

OSX Safari to be clear.

I've visited before-- on Explorer, I guess.

Love it!
Lou_Tullio | 10.16.04 - 10:07 pm | #

Don't bring me down Charlie. You want 24/7 doom and gloom switch sides.
Lon Chaney, Jr | 10.16.04 - 10:08 pm | #

Until my eyes adjusted I thought Atrios was proposing a mouldy orange as a V symbol. Great picture.
EPT | 10.16.04 - 10:08 pm | #

Rove believes that Bush needs to have a 4 point lead going into the last weekend...

He'll never get it in reality.

But they are in their own reality, remember? (see Suskind article) What will happen if Bush is *ahead* by 4 points going into the last weekend? Bullshit. Rove doesn't tell anyone anything that he doesn't want to get out.

I wouldn't pay too much attention to this.
pie | 10.16.04 - 10:09 pm | #

Good work Aethern!

I've been canvassing undecideds in Pa. Hard work, but one or two people always make the day worthwhile
curly | 10.16.04 - 10:09 pm | #

Thanks! Y'all are the best! I'm very flattered to be complimented by such smart, funny people, who've done so much to keep me out of the nuthouse.

And Shaw...I wish I knew what the problem was. Maybe something's the matter with the Internets, huh? For all Haloscan's faults, I kind of wish I had it. What happens when you try to go on?
Philalethes | Homepage | 10.16.04 - 10:09 pm | #

Easy charlie. We're all in this horror show together, and everybody has to deal with it in their own way. For some, humor is required to fight off despair. It does not indicate that we are not taking things seriously or that we do not understand what is at stake.
Anonymous | 10.16.04 - 10:10 pm | #

Yeah, no more jokes, assholes! Nothing but somber tones from here on out.

You go Charlie.
J | 10.16.04 - 10:10 pm | #

Lesbians on Mars?
No, they're on Venus.

Yeah, yeah. A race of venusian amazons waiting for virile Republican trolls to show them what a real man can do. Just climb into this shuttle and fasten your seatbelt, boys. It'll be a long ride but the reward is seventy-two hot mamas each. Climb in suc..... uh, you red-blooded, virile, boys.
EPT | 10.16.04 - 10:10 pm | #

Mars is essentially in the same orbit... Mars
is somewhat the same distance from the Sun,
which is very important. We have seen
pictures where there are canals, we believe,
and water. If there is water, that means
there is oxygen. If oxygen, that means we can
breathe.
--Dan Quayle
Clevinger | Homepage | 10.16.04 - 10:10 pm | #

i bet commander codpiece wanted to fight the evil thoats!

-J.T.
Warlord of Silver Spring!
JohnTomato | 10.16.04 - 10:13 pm | #

Actually, I think Chappelle is FUNNIER out of context.
J | 10.16.04 - 10:14 pm | #

Real pitchers' duel up in Fenway there...
Thersites | 10.16.04 - 10:14 pm | #

John Kerry for President - New York Times endorsement

Voting for president is a leap of faith. A candidate can explain his positions in minute detail and wind up governing with a hostile Congress that refuses to let him deliver. A disaster can upend the best-laid plans. All citizens can do is mix guesswork and hope, examining what the candidates have done in the past, their apparent priorities and their general character. It's on those three grounds that we enthusiastically endorse John Kerry for president.
standa | 10.16.04 - 10:16 pm | #

I have a question for all you Eschatonians -- as some of you may know, the Guardian newspaper in the UK has published a story that gives its international readers tips on things that they can do to impact the coming US election. In fact, the paper will provide, to any reader who asks, the name and mailing address of an independent voter in Clark County, Ohio, so that said reader can write a letter to try and convince this independent to vote for Kerry (or even Bush -- the Guardian doesn't explicitly choose sides, but given the slant of their news it's clear they wouldn't do anything they thought would help Bush).

Anyway, my question is -- how would most of you react to receiving such a letter? I'd hate to be perceived as a meddling outsider, and maybe push someone who had been undecided into the Bush camp as a result.

But at the same time, there are many of us outside the US who feel like we too have a huge stake in the outcome of this election, but are frustrated and feel powerless to really do anything of substance.

So do I write, or do I don't?
SteveNS | 10.16.04 - 10:16 pm | #

Philalethes--

eschewing registration (mainly 'cause it didn't like my usernames), I've still got ya bookmarked.

Three blogs a day to keep up with. When's a guy supposed to work?
Robert M. Jeffers | 10.16.04 - 10:18 pm | #

How can a foreign news organisation have the name and adrees on a swing voter?

Wouldnt the two candidates love to have a list filled with those names?
smalfish | Homepage | 10.16.04 - 10:19 pm | #

SteveNS,

I do love the Brits, and appreciate their offer of help, but think their letter writing campaign is iffy, at best.
bigvic | 10.16.04 - 10:19 pm | #

charlie don't surf, I respect your viewpoint. I hate this war. But...

if I didn't laugh every day about some aspect of Bush's presidency, I would go crazy.

There's so much serious shit that's discussed here. We don't need to be reminded about what's important.
pie | 10.16.04 - 10:20 pm | #

SteveNS --

I think as long as you acknowledged that what you were doing was perhaps a bit presumptuous, but asked that I keep an open mind and give you an honest chance to convince me, I wouldn't mind so much.
JC | 10.16.04 - 10:20 pm | #

Bambino
Anonymous | 10.16.04 - 10:20 pm | #

I got yer Bambino right here.
Withnail | 10.16.04 - 10:22 pm | #

Most people would be thrilled to get a letter from England, so that is good.

If the letter scolded them and instructed them to vote for someone, then that thrill would go away pretty quickly.

So, send it. But use kid gloves.
James | 10.16.04 - 10:23 pm | #

faagetaboutit
Anonymous | 10.16.04 - 10:23 pm | #

Chappelle isn't that funny, and it definitely isn't funny out of context.

No one asked you, did they. Frankly, that episode was extremely funny. You either didn't see it, or you have no sense of humor. And as J said:

Actually, I think Chappelle is FUNNIER out of context.
pie | 10.16.04 - 10:23 pm | #

Apparently people DO need to be reminded of what is important, since the 1100 dead benchmark has been passed with zero notice by anyone, meanwhile everyone is hammering on stale old jokes again. Sure humor has its place, but this isn't the Letterman show where it's (occasionally) funny to drive a joke into the ground.
If you have time to write lame jokes, you have time to work for Bush's defeat. Bad Chappelle jokes won't defeat Bush. Letting people know the current death toll in Iraq, despite the usual media blackout, WILL affect votes.
charlie don't surf | Homepage | 10.16.04 - 10:23 pm | #

Seriously OT, but:

The freepers are still obsessed with Poland.

http://tinyurl.com/57hc9
The Boss of You | 10.16.04 - 10:24 pm | #

Real pitchers' duel up in Fenway there...

Clever Sox strategy there, getting the Yankees to wear themselves out on the basepaths in the early innings.

Hey, I'm an O's fan (pity me) but unfortunately the Yanks are "too good." Bloody hell, they can beat you any way anybody can get beat...
SteveLG | 10.16.04 - 10:24 pm | #

Anonymous, you're probably right. It's completely irrational rooting for the Sox. I'm an atheist. Maybe it's some sort of compensation - I have to believe in something. Talk about a leap of faith.
Withnail | 10.16.04 - 10:25 pm | #

charlie don't surf
Go stick your head in a bucket of ice water before you stroke out.
Fuck.
Anonymous | 10.16.04 - 10:26 pm | #

FREEDOM IS ON THE MARS!!!!!
Badddoggie | 10.16.04 - 10:27 pm | #

damn that bambino

go 'Stros!
Kim or Cym | 10.16.04 - 10:27 pm | #

Charlie --

Do you REALLY expect us all to spend every waking moment working on the campaign stuff? Or are you just fucking with us?

Hell, I'm sure even Kerry has "time" to joke around once in a while.
J | 10.16.04 - 10:27 pm | #

charlie, either your site is broken or you didn't care enough to put the 1100 up on it.

-J.T.
Warlord of Silver Spring, MD
JohnTomato | 10.16.04 - 10:27 pm | #

So will it be Venus ascendent then? Will that mean a return of the Summer of Love?
Barry Freed | 10.16.04 - 10:27 pm | #

Oh my god, charlie don't surf. Have you never been here before? The posters here are some of the most passionate people on these topics in the country.

But we can't spend every moment smashing the machine. We need to stay sane while doing it, too. Humor helps me. So if it doesn't help you, well then, stay off the thread and keep going. Best of luck to you, and we're all supporting you. But leave us our few moments of relaxation.

And Chappelle is DEFINITELY funnier out of context.
bcdm | 10.16.04 - 10:28 pm | #

>Talk about a leap of faith.<

Withnail
I'm on the west coast. I love the Sox too. I was just busting my own balls with those comments.
Anonymous | 10.16.04 - 10:29 pm | #

Actually, I think Chappelle is FUNNIER out of context.

I am not making this up. I made a total ass of myself at a party last night over Chappell. I was sitting on a large, (unbeknownst to me) BACKLESS couch. We were all trading our favorite Chappelle skits and I was roaring with laughter and threw myself back and flipped over backwards onto the floor.

What a maroon! At least I topped Chappelle for a moment.
bigvic | 10.16.04 - 10:29 pm | #

>Talk about a leap of faith.<

Withnail
I'm on the west coast. I love the Sox too. I was just busting my own balls with those comments.
Anonymous | 10.16.04 - 10:29 pm | #

I like Bill Maher's take on baseball:

You're rooting for laundry.
artnoize | 10.16.04 - 10:29 pm | #

Actually, I've been checking in and out all day, charlie, and there's plenty of serious debate here on other threads, about the election, the flu vaccine, Iraq, the draft, you name it. Look around and you'll find something more to your taste, I'm sure.
NYMary | 10.16.04 - 10:29 pm | #

Well, it seems Quayle was in fact correct about there being water on Mars. I don't know about the oxygen bit though. Suggest we send George W. Bush to find out.
Barry Freed | 10.16.04 - 10:30 pm | #

What's Chappelle? If it's that funny I've got to know.
EPT | 10.16.04 - 10:30 pm | #

If you have time to write lame jokes, you have time to work for Bush's defeat.

...and if you have time to play potty monitor for this blog, well...

I don't gotta spell it out for you, do I?

Lighten the fuck up.

(and I'm another of those folks who never used to swear in my posts... I'll be forever recovering from this shit)
SteveLG | 10.16.04 - 10:30 pm | #

Apparently people DO need to be reminded of what is important

All right. Now you're pissing me off.

I can't deal with your concerns 24-7. I can't be you. I was against Bush and this war from the beginning, and I'm doing what I can to defeat him. So are many others here.

Take it elsewhere.
pie | 10.16.04 - 10:31 pm | #

CDS sounds like he wants us all in Earth Yones, or something...
G Goober Goober, EFB, HSG | 10.16.04 - 10:31 pm | #

Hmm -- looking at the feedback, and going by my own gut feeling, I'm thinking there's probably too much of a likelihood that I'd alienate anyone I might write to. It's probably less dangerous and more therapeutic to just pop in here from time to time and bitch, Martians!

Wait, I think I got that backwards.
SteveNS | 10.16.04 - 10:32 pm | #

Anonymous, good to meet another Sox fan. I'm in Columbus, Ohio. I really do look at the Yankees as the Republican team, as I mentioned above in this thread. I feel a lot more optimistic about Kerry.
Withnail | 10.16.04 - 10:32 pm | #

so... the NYT officially endorses Kerry tomorrow, yes? woo hoo!

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/1...ion/ 17sun1.html
Kim or Cym | 10.16.04 - 10:32 pm | #

Now you've done it. Pissin Pie off.
You better start surfin quick.
Chauncy Gardner | 10.16.04 - 10:33 pm | #

Bebe Rebozo, best screen name ever!

Why didn't I think of that?
Plenty | 10.16.04 - 10:33 pm | #

charlie don't surf, and do you honestly think coming here and being a laughably self-righteous cocksucker is really going to help? who the hell do you think you are? how do you know that as we're laughing we're not telling people elsewhere about teh death toll? your not some moral paragon of virtue, you're just an ass using morose extremism and pathetically transparent political piety to elevate yourself.

so fuck off. in any case you obviously don't feel this issue of 1100 dead is SO important we must siphon off ALL OUR SEROTONIN until november 3rd. otherwise you'd be somewhere informing people who WEREN'T aware about this (artificial*) death toll. instead you're here being a troll and hectoring us on things we feel strongly about but don't (as would a child, or regressive adolescent, i imagine you're one of the two) go fucking binary with our emotions and decide that if there's something to be sad about, or angry about, we have to be sad or angry ALL the time or we're not pure enough. first, that's bullshit, second you've proven yourself unworthy to decide what's pure and what's not. you've got the emotional compass of a two year old.

*yeah, i'm sure #1099 was thinking "boy, when it gets to 1100, then it's getting REAL bad!" just the same as #1100 was thinking, "because of my death i hope no one ever laughs again!"

so, charlie don't surf, leave the human tragedy sob story of yours to be dealt with by people who are recognizably human, with the need to both grieve and laugh. ghouls need not apply.
Apophenia | 10.16.04 - 10:34 pm | #

IIRC, "Charlie don't surf" was one of the very few humorous lines in Apocalypse Now, a film which illustrated the horrors of war with devastating effectiveness.

So let's end the lectures on appropriate humor, eh?
Observer | 10.16.04 - 10:34 pm | #

bigvic

It only counts if you got applause.

Sorry, there are standards for prat falls.
EkCenTrik | 10.16.04 - 10:35 pm | #

and the Times endorsement isn't 'tepid' either....
NYMary | 10.16.04 - 10:35 pm | #

This is funny:

The guide on my digital cable says the Sox-Yankees game is supposed to be over in 1 minute.

They are in the 4th.
J | 10.16.04 - 10:36 pm | #

i was thinking about this recently. like seriously, why don't the democrats, or a well-funded lefty group, run an ad about Mars? Bush wants to fight wars, cut taxes, halve his record deficit, build a freaking moonbase, and send people to MARS!!! The commercial should make this out to be as ridiculous and asinine as it actually is _and_ must point out that the bigger problem - the problem that's bigger even than Bush's love of massive government spending - is the fact that the Mars program was announced as purely as a way of boosting his poll numbers and as a poor attempt at distracting us from more important things. That, just like everything else, the 'visionary' mars program is a big lie.

Making a really funny and brutal ad out of the Mars plan would be a piece of cake.
dalai | Homepage | 10.16.04 - 10:36 pm | #

Mars Bars, Bitches!

Drinking liberally today , eh atri?
Mr.Murder | 10.16.04 - 10:37 pm | #

Dick - Is - A - Killer
Guy | 10.16.04 - 10:37 pm | #

I'm a Blue Jays fan, myself. (Too long up in Canada.) But the Yankees are evil incarnate, and must be defeated in any way possible, so I will gladly be a Sox fan for the series.

I have no cable. Updates on the game are always appreciated.
bcdm | 10.16.04 - 10:38 pm | #

Bush promised us red planet Mars, instead he gave us the red stained sands of Iraq.
EkCenTrik | 10.16.04 - 10:39 pm | #

Sox fans:
Did you hear on NPR yesterday about all the attempts to break the curse? Knocking down his ex-wife's house, looking for some old piano... it was great.
NYMary | 10.16.04 - 10:39 pm | #

What's Chappelle? If it's that funny I've got to know.

Chappelle Show is on the Comedy Central channel Tues. night and has re-runs throughout the week.

The Mars, Bitch! that we all hoot about was a skit he did called "Black Bush." Chappelle is black, and he farkin' ripped Bush. You can find it on the internets.
bigvic | 10.16.04 - 10:40 pm | #

Bush wants to fight wars, cut taxes, halve his record deficit, build a freaking moonbase, and send people to MARS!!!

MARS, Birchers!

...like anyone under fifty has a clue about the John Birch Society...
SteveLG | 10.16.04 - 10:40 pm | #

Grammar check :

Bush promised us *the* red planet Mars, instead he gave us the red stained sands of Iraq.
EkCenTrik | 10.16.04 - 10:40 pm | #

bdcm, Yankees are up 11-6 in the top of the 5th. Wakefield is on the mound for the Sox. Plenty of time to come back, if Wakfield pitches well.
Withnail | 10.16.04 - 10:41 pm | #

eschewing registration (mainly 'cause it didn't like my usernames), I've still got ya bookmarked.

Thanks, RMJ. If anyone knows how to overcome this registration nonsense, please let me know. I'd happily get rid of it, if anyone knows a hack or an alternate commenting system.

I hear ya about keeping up with blogs...one of the reasons I did this one was to have easy links to some of the ones I like, but never remember to read. I figured if I was obliged to update mine, I'd be obliged to read theirs.

Also, my insomnia's been so bad lately that I figured I should do something halfway productive with the time...
Philalethes | Homepage | 10.16.04 - 10:42 pm | #

NYMary, I didn't hear the NPR story, but I did read recently that a kid who lives in Babe Ruth's old house got hit in the face with a baseball at Fenway. That was supposed to be a good sign for breaking the curse. Not sure how I'd feel if I were the kid, though. Hope he's a Sox fan.
Withnail | 10.16.04 - 10:42 pm | #

Why does Mars look like a polyp in Cheney's rectum?

Limbaugh, not Cheney, had a cyst/polyp in his nether regions.

Didn't El Rushbo have, like, an ingrown asshole, or something?
G Goober Goober, EFB, HSG | 10.16.04 - 10:43 pm | #

"To these guys (Kerry/Edwards & Democrats as a whole), winning office is more important than the sanctity of elections. Holding power is more important than the Constitution. Much as I despise at least half of what most Republicans stand for, they don't seem nearly as willing to trash the system they're trying to run. Too many Democrats, especially at the national level, just don't care that our system, our nation is far more important than any single election."

I made the mistake of going over to Vodkapundit to see what Charlie was up to.

Now I need a strong drink.
James | 10.16.04 - 10:43 pm | #

Steve --

I know about the John Birch Society! And I'm only 27!

Yeah for me!
J | 10.16.04 - 10:44 pm | #

..like anyone under fifty has a clue about the John Birch Society...

I used to know a couple of Birchers long ago, even went to a meeting. They were freaking crazy. Sometimes I wonder what ever happened to them.
just me | 10.16.04 - 10:44 pm | #

bigvic

It only counts if you got applause.

Dude! I brought the house down! The whole place came running, thinking I must have hurt myself but I and everyone else was laughing so hard we could barely stand up.
bigvic | 10.16.04 - 10:45 pm | #

Seeing as how I live out here in the woods, I decided to join the Birch John society instead. I had to quit though, the splinters were driving me crazy.
just me | 10.16.04 - 10:45 pm | #

>Democrats, especially at the national level, just don't care that our system<

ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzZ
Anonymous | 10.16.04 - 10:46 pm | #

I'm with those who know that satire is one of the most effective political tools. Particularly when directed against political tools like Chimpy McSmirk. Look no further than the increasingly beloved Jon Stewart, especially after yesterday's Crossfire smackdown.

Say what you will about Clinton and Reagan, but I think one characteristic they shared is a solid sense of humor. And Bush Sr., W, Cheney, Rummy, Ashcroft, Wolfowitz- hell, pretty much the whole lot of them are humorless pricks. Laughing at others out of heartless self-absorption does not count. I'm not sure who said it first, but it's funny to watch someone puncture the overinflated egos of the powerful, whereas making fun of the powerless is simply cruel (cf. "She'd say 'Please don't kill me', heh heh.)

That said, go watch Black Bush for yourselves. There's a 4-minute clip over at Comedy Central (on the Chappelle's Show page), though I don't think it has the Mars part (dammit!). Here is the direct link to the video clip.

See y'all on Mars, my bitches!
JeffCO | 10.16.04 - 10:46 pm | #

bigvic

Yep that sounds like a keeper. I understand that then falls under the PFSMSA standards of acceptance.
EkCenTrik | 10.16.04 - 10:48 pm | #

All your Mars are belong to us!

All your John Birch are belong to us, too!

.
* * * | 10.16.04 - 10:48 pm | #

Charley don't surf is OK. We all have our pissy moods. This is his.

Unless someone is name stealing again.
bigvic | 10.16.04 - 10:50 pm | #

JeffCO

You have a good point. Considering all we seem to think about Bush and his disposition, I am surprised that his opponents do not toss a bit more humorous but mocking commentary at him. It is pretty obvious it would get under his skin and I really do not think he has the discipline to avoid reacting in some way.
EkCenTrik | 10.16.04 - 10:50 pm | #

ARE YOU REGISTERED FOR THE DRAFT???
Yr Local Draft Board | 10.16.04 - 10:50 pm | #

NYY 13, BRS 6 in the fifth.

A defensive struggle, obviously.
NYMary | 10.16.04 - 10:51 pm | #

NYMary, I am finding the game offensive.
Withnail | 10.16.04 - 10:53 pm | #

I don't know about the oxygen bit though. Suggest we send George W. Bush to find out.

That would be futile, I'm pretty sure his brain is well adapted to a lack of oxygen.
Another Bruce | 10.16.04 - 10:53 pm | #

Two more indications that GWB is completely insane:

read the NY Times magazine profile of him, and be very, very scared

and WaPo has a story that the French would have sent 15,000 soldiers to Iraq if Saddam Hussein had refused to allow UN inspectors back in, and under other conditions. Anyway, GWB would go absolutely crazy whenever Chirac would mention GHWB (GWB's father). Chirac was told by GWB's advisors to stop doing that.
Fan | Homepage | 10.16.04 - 10:53 pm | #

FIND OUT IF YOU'RE REGISTERED FOR THE DRAFT
Yr Local Draft Board | 10.16.04 - 10:55 pm | #

That made me laugh out loud.

MARS, biznotches.
Alderaan | 10.16.04 - 10:55 pm | #

Sometimes I wonder what ever happened to them.

They took over the Republican party. (John Birchers)
Another Bruce | 10.16.04 - 10:56 pm | #

Limbaugh, not Cheney, had a cyst/polyp in his nether regions.

Didn't El Rushbo have, like, an ingrown asshole, or something?

"pilonidal cyst" according to Google, although my original comment was only setting up the money line: Right ailment, wrong asshole.
Mustard is Evil | 10.16.04 - 10:57 pm | #

Yr Local Draft Board - scary, but I'm still in the database, and I'm 38 years old. Hmmm . . . .
Withnail | 10.16.04 - 10:58 pm | #

FIND OUT IF YOU'RE REGISTERED FOR THE DRAFT
Yr Local Draft Board | Email | Homepage | 10.16.04 - 10:55 pm |

Yep.

I'm registered and I still have a selective service number, even though I'm over 30.

Oh well. I've always wanted to visit Iran.
SWR | 10.16.04 - 11:00 pm | #

Are we talking Mars Attacks? Right before Jack Black is vaporized???
Anonymous | 10.16.04 - 11:02 pm | #

As Molly Ivins just said, we need to have fun while we're fighting for freedom, since we're going to be doing it for the rest of our lives.
Karin | 10.16.04 - 11:02 pm | #

"NYY 13, BRS 6 in the fifth."

No sweat. The Sox just need a TD and a 2 point conversion. Now if the defense can just get the ball back for Brady...
Ann A. Gram | 10.16.04 - 11:02 pm | #

Apophenia

I second your comments to poor surf-deprived and humor-deprived Charlie.
Toonscribe | 10.16.04 - 11:03 pm | #

Folks, you can't even make up shit like this.

Bush Says He's Best Protection From Draft

President Bush turned the tables Saturday on Sen. John Kerry, declaring "the best way to avoid the draft is to vote for me," and pledged to oppose mandatory military service.
Central Scrutinizer | 10.16.04 - 11:04 pm | #

Boy, we sure hope Atrios or his leftist blogger friends don't link this site! If he did, and it caught on, it's unintentional achievement of a verifiable, personalized, and immediate reminder of what an actual draft means for America might cause some to rethink Bush's strategy!!!

Yup. Sure hope this federal webpage of ours stays nice and quiet.
Yr Local Draft Board | 10.16.04 - 11:04 pm | #

Interesting stuff on that Selective Service Website, 'specially the "What happens in a draft"page

http://www.sss.gov/WHHAP.HTM

and all the pronouns and text reference are male in gender
Kim or Cym | 10.16.04 - 11:04 pm | #

PFSMSA standards of acceptance.
EkCenTrik

PFSMSA has me intrigued. The fact of the hilarity is, I only weight 125 lbs. but I was so limp with laughter that 5 grown men could barely pick me up. All the others sitting with me were so uselessly slapping their thighs to help at all.
bigvic | 10.16.04 - 11:05 pm | #

Holy cow,I cant believe I am still registered for the draft.

Not to worried about it tho,my physical condition ought to prevent me from serving in the mans army anymore.
smalfish | Homepage | 10.16.04 - 11:06 pm | #

Well creep ME out! I just checked the site "Yr Local Draft Board" (see above) posted and, sure enough, I'm in the system. I'm 41 years old! O.K., o.k., I'm not afraid of being drafted (I am afraid for my 18 year old nephew), but knowing I'm that deeply embedding in Big Brother's brain is shudder-making.

My date of registration, btw: 10.06.81.

.
* * * | 10.16.04 - 11:06 pm | #

Damn, draftboard still has my data too. If they come after the over-40 crowd, guess I'm screwed....
SJohn | 10.16.04 - 11:09 pm | #

Jon Stewart on Crossfire -

http://www.ifilm.com/filmdetail? ...ifilmid=2652831
kentuckydem | 10.16.04 - 11:09 pm | #

Central Scrutinizer,

You are correct. A vry bad novel could not come up with the shit Bu$h utters. Black is white. War is peace. I'll send your unprotected ass to Iraq and You Will Trust Me. OY.
bigvic | 10.16.04 - 11:12 pm | #

OK, so you have Kerry promising not to reinstate the draft and Bush promising not reinstate the draft. Let's try a simple test: Which of these candidates will never face re-election again after 11/2/2004?
Another Bruce | 10.16.04 - 11:15 pm | #

Bloomberg.com: “Lawrence Jacobs, a University of Minnesota political scientist who tracks minor parties, said he believes Libertarian Party presidential candidate Michael Badnarik, a 50-year-old Texas computer consultant whose name will appear on every ballot except in New Hampshire and Oklahoma, might draw more votes from Bush than Nader draws from Kerry.”

http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103& sid=a0J.fNaS0e8g&refer=us

Wisconsin poll data shows that Michael Badnarik will help Kerry win the state.

47%-Bush
48%-Kerry
1%–Badnarik
1%–Nader
1%–Some other candidate
2%–Not sure
VoteBadnarik | 10.16.04 - 11:16 pm | #

But is Badnarik taking money from the left? That seems like the $64K question to me.
NYMary | 10.16.04 - 11:19 pm | #

I went to Comedy Central. I watched the 'Black Bush' skit three times. I never heard him say, "Mars, bitches!" What am I doing wrong?
TheBrewmaster | 10.16.04 - 11:23 pm | #

Well, congratulate me -- I think. I'm so fucking old I'm not in the Selective Service system anymore. I originally registered for the Draft in July of 1969. Apparently they don't have records anymore for anyone born before 1960 -- at least that's what their site said when I checked.
Toonscribe | 10.16.04 - 11:24 pm | #

FYI, I took my handle from a song by The Clash, not from Apocalypse Now (although the song definitely refers to the movie).

Maybe there is something wrong with you people, if you can't even CONSIDER looking at something from someone else's point of view. Sure, I can consider that people think Chappelle is funny. Why can't you even consider that some people think this ISN'T funny, especially the hundredth time?
Maybe you should walk a mile in someone else's shoes. Like mine. I'm sitting here in my dying mother's house, trying to keep her alive, partly in the hopes she'll live long enough for her absentee ballot to arrive and vote for Kerry. Her disease could be cured with stem cell techniques, but thanks to Bush's illogical ban, she'll die without any hope of a cure or even anything to slow the disease. So don't tell me to lighten up, some people NEVER get to lighten up, I'm on call 24/7/365. You people that are criticising me for daring to speak my opinion (that others have agreed with, I remind you) should consider this: would you tell someone whose family member was dying due to wounds sustained in Iraq to lighten up? I'm in the same boat, my mom is dying because of our asshole president's irrational decisions. Maybe you should consider that you're all as compassionless as Bush if you desire to suppress my opinion under these circumstances.
charlie don't surf | Homepage | 10.16.04 - 11:25 pm | #

Brew,

It didn't run long enough, I guess. That part came after Chimp could no longer defend a single policy, so when asked a question, he said, "Mars, Bitch!"
bigvic | 10.16.04 - 11:27 pm | #

But is Badnarik taking money from the left? That seems like the $64K question to me.
NYMary | Email | Homepage | 10.16.04 - 11:19 pm | #

I don't know too much about him but from what I've seen of him he seems like a pretty likeable guy.

1.) He came to Central Park to protest Bloomberg's denial of a permit.

2.) He used the line "I don't respect 'free speech zones.' Everywhere I stand is a free speech zone."

I have to say, libertarian or not, I respect him more than I respect Nader (that is, of course, unless anybody has dirt on him I don't know about).
SWR | 10.16.04 - 11:30 pm | #

charlie,
I'm really sorry about your mom. I did what you're doing now in 2000, and there's nothing worse than that duty. Are you on your own, or do you have some help?
NYMary | 10.16.04 - 11:31 pm | #

My god, I'm 44 and I'm still in the system.
filkertom | Homepage | 10.16.04 - 11:34 pm | #

Cue the violins!

Maybe you should consider that you're all as compassionless as Bush if you desire to suppress my opinion under these circumstances.

You are either name stealing troll or a one man pity party.

I lost a friend, his *husband* and their 3 yr. old son in the 2nd twin tower on 911.

Fuck off, bitch!
bigvic | 10.16.04 - 11:36 pm | #

hey charlie don't surf,

hang in there. what you are doing is difficult, but it is right.
Fan | 10.16.04 - 11:38 pm | #

FIND OUT IF YOU'RE REGISTERED FOR THE DRAFT

If you live in Florida, you registered for the draft when you signed for your drivers license. That's the way it works here.
Ensley | 10.16.04 - 11:39 pm | #

no, bigvic. There's a horror to watching the slow process of death that's qualitatively different from sudden, unexpected death. Trust me on this one. And it puts you into a weird, weird psychological state. It took me years to be myself again, seriously.
NYMary | 10.16.04 - 11:40 pm | #

So don't tell me to lighten up, some people NEVER get to lighten up, I'm on call 24/7/365. You people that are criticising me for daring to speak my opinion (that others have agreed with, I remind you) should consider this: would you tell someone whose family member was dying due to wounds sustained in Iraq to lighten up? I'm in the same boat, my mom is dying because of our asshole president's irrational decisions. Maybe you should consider that you're all as compassionless as Bush if you desire to suppress my opinion under these circumstances. -charlie don't surf

lighten up, if you're gonna be like that all the time, just fucking lay down and die already. that goes double if you're just a troll.

so, in short, we've ALL got problems, some smaller than yours and some much, much bigger, charlie, don't whine.
Anonymous | 10.16.04 - 11:41 pm | #

Man, what I just typed was Harsh! But my "gut" and my "instinct" told me there was something disingenuous about Charley's post (which I defended upstream).

Just sick of trolls and buzzkillers.
bigvic | 10.16.04 - 11:42 pm | #

Birchers are still around actually, I went to High School with a kid who was a card carrying member about 5-6 years ago. When he showed it to me I tactfully said his family must be insane. I never saw him at school again after that, must have told his parents that the communists had infiltrated the school.
Division | 10.16.04 - 11:43 pm | #

Just sick of trolls and buzzkillers.
bigvic

Well, sure. But charlie's been around here before. He may have the wrong thread, but he's no troll.
NYMary | 10.16.04 - 11:47 pm | #

Seeing as how I live out here in the woods, I decided to join the Birch John society instead. I had to quit though, the splinters were driving me crazy.

Damn it, just me, you made me spit all over my brand new laptop!

My 19-year-old niece said about Bush's denial of the draft, "Yeah, Bush lies." Part of our dinner discussion last night was on where in Canada she could move if Bush steals the election. We decided Toronto or Vancouver, since she wants to break into the film industry (as a casting director).

Wore my Kerry/Edwards cap again today and got a "Yeah, Kerry!" from the gal at the gas station. Though it was cold enough I wish I'd worn my Kerry/Edwards ski hat! I figure wearing my cap is effective advertising -- Repugs dare vandalize it at their own peril!

My niece's younger siblings are geeked up for Kerry; they're too young to vote, but it's good training. Their dad the cop is definitely in the Kerry camp after seeing F911, and their stepmom is just about convinced.

Someone in her boyfriend's neighborhood added a nice touch to a Bush/Cheney sign -- shot it with an orange paintball, the closest to red they sell around here. As we were our today she spotted two B/C signs across which someone had spraypainted "Peace." We decided that the best term for it wasn't "vandalism," but "correction."
sister of ye | 10.16.04 - 11:47 pm | #

NYMary,

AWWWW, I apologise to you. I have gone through that myself as well. It shakes you to the bone.
bigvic | 10.16.04 - 11:50 pm | #

Man, living in Tokyo, means you miss all the cool stuff...

Mar, my little... oh hell...
Hubris Sonic | Homepage | 10.16.04 - 11:54 pm | #

Thanks, NYMary, for your concern. Yes, I have loads of "help" from my deranged siblings. My biggest job is defending her from their insanity. So basically I'm totally on my own in providing her care, with a huge additional workload caused by their "help."
I'll just give you one example. I found out my mom was sending big checks to fake charities, she's on a sucker list distributed amongst scammers. Sure it's great that a dying woman can take what little time she has left to try to make other peoples' lives easier. She's especially a sucker for fake charities for Veterans. Unfortunately, she's unable to tell a fake charity from a real one. I take all her letters out of the mailbox, look up the charity on guidestar.org to see if they're legit, and they all have zero stars out of a possible 4. So I take those checks and tear them up. But now my mom discovered my activities, and is giving these letters to my brother, who sneaks them out of the house and into the mail. I confronted him about this and told him not to do it anymore, because she can't afford it, her taxes are in arrears and her house is threatened with seizure by the IRS, but he's helping her waste money she needs to save for her taxes. But he defended his actions, he says it's her money so she can waste it if she wants. He already stole $150k from her, which is why she can't pay her taxes. I'll probably have to go to court and have her declared incompetent to manage her financial affairs, due to his meddling.
Then, he welshed on his promise to rake the leaves in the yard, he said didn't have time today, and then he spent the next 2 hours ranting about how he wants to go to Iraq to kill Iraqis, but the Marine recruiter turned him down because he's too old. So I looked up the number for Coldwater Security and told him he could be in Iraq killing Iraqis in 2 weeks, let's phone up Coldwater right now, put up or shut up. He left. I had to rake. It only took an hour.

Welcome to my world. I'd be better off without help.
charlie don't surf | Homepage | 10.16.04 - 11:57 pm | #

My god, I'm 44 and I'm still in the system.

Me too. Thank you, Jimmy Carter.
theodoric | 10.16.04 - 11:58 pm | #

Go to if you want laugh at Furious George's expense. and Condi's and Rummy's and Dickie's...
Twisted Martini | 10.17.04 - 12:00 am | #

a snake a snake eww a snake

It's a badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger

MUSHROOM MUSSHROOM!

Take that, I hate Dali!
Chris Tucker | Homepage | 10.17.04 - 12:04 am | #

Charlie don't surf, I feel for you. It's hard to watch a family member die. I've lost my mom and dad, a brother and a sister. My dad died of cancer, and my sister of advanced alcoholism, and those were drawn-out times that hurt.

No offense, but you have to learn that the rest of the world isn't in the same place as you. Even more, for some people humor relieves the stress of grief. At both my parents' funerals, my siblings and I spent part of the time cracking bad jokes. It sounds irreverent, but really wasn't -- after all, where else had we gotten our strange sense of humor?

When her mom was dying, my niece (who I mentioned above) kept her sense of humor. She had to, or it would have overwhelmed her.

So don't take the levity here as a personal insult. We all know how serious the country's situation is, and I'm sure we're all working to fix things in our own ways. But we all have to handle the stress in our own ways, too.

If it helps your bitterness, even if Bush had enabled stem cell research, a cure might not have come in time to help your mom. Unfortunately medical progress doesn't come that straightforwardly. View your fight to defeat Bush as fitting tribute to her.

My best wishes for you, and peace for your mom.
sister of ye | 10.17.04 - 12:04 am | #

I wonder if they even COULD effectively reinstate a draft. There are nineteen states in which registration compliance is below 90%, and in Nevada it's 79%.

California: 85%, Texas: 87%, New York: 83%.
theodoric | 10.17.04 - 12:12 am | #

charlie,
I emailed you through your homepage link.
NYMary | 10.17.04 - 12:14 am | #

"Charlie don't surf" by The Clash is actually kind of a funny song.

I mean, in a lighthearted yet vicious kinda way.

It's on "Sandinista!" which was definitely one of the best albums of the 1980's.

Charlie don't surf,

and we think he should.

Charlie don't surf,

and you know that it ain't no good.

Charlie dont surf for his hamburger ma,

Charlie's gonna be a napalm star.
thought | 10.17.04 - 12:20 am | #

Let's stay focused on the important issues here folks - lesbians and how much John Kerry pays for his haircuts.
yep | 10.17.04 - 12:21 am | #

Ok, for them what's not so good on the internets, I been workin' hard (it's hard work) to find a complete clip. Thanks to the widespread blatant disregard for copyright laws, you can find streaming Realvideo of Chappelle's full show with the Black Bush sketch here. Jump to 16:40 and watch for about a minute. Then shall you truly understand the satirical splendor that is Mars, Bitches!

And for further rampant flouting of the law, you can find links to RV clips of his entire first season (whence came the Mars clip) here. One of my personal favorites is his bit on what it would look like if the treatment of drug dealers and corporate crooks by the legal system were switched. It's quite a larf!
JeffCO | 10.17.04 - 12:23 am | #

http://wakeusup.blogspot.com/200...ush- linked.html

Marvin P Bush..
DAN RATHER | Homepage | 10.17.04 - 12:24 am | #

http://wakeusup.blogspot.com/200...ush- linked.html

Marvin P Bush..
DAN RATHER | Homepage | 10.17.04 - 12:27 am | #

My god, I'm 44 and I'm still in the system.
filkertom

Crikey! Dude, you'd better get gay in a hurray.
bigvic | 10.17.04 - 12:30 am | #

JeffCO,

Bitch! I nearly DIED laughing over Chappelle last night. The Mars thing is the greatest. Ever.
bigvic | 10.17.04 - 12:33 am | #

On the draft- I was in college in the early '80's when the Solomon Amendment was passed. It required registration to be eligible to receive federal financial aid (or have pretty much anything to do with any federal program). Funny story- apparently it only affected those of us who needed financial assistance (heh heh)! See, the kids at my Ivy League school whose families didn't qualify for federal aid (the poor bastards) never had to worry about it. Funny, huh?
JeffCO | 10.17.04 - 12:34 am | #

I'm thinking maybe we get flags made (the kind that hang on the windows of your car) with Mars on it, with the words: Onward to Victory, bitches!
David (Austin TX) | Homepage | 10.17.04 - 12:43 am | #

Motherfucking brilliant.

Especially when one considers the parallel between pulling a voting lever and flipping a light-switch.

*click*
Geo | 10.17.04 - 12:46 am | #

You know what I am going to do on Nov. 2...

http://www.freewayblogger.com/im...ges/ mojave4.jpg
jillian | Homepage | 10.17.04 - 1:05 am | #

Sister, I'm not taking the levity as a personal insult. I'm taking the personal insults as a personal insult. Some people just don't understand what is at stake.
charlie don't surf | Homepage | 10.17.04 - 1:20 am | #

Good one, jillian!
pol | 10.17.04 - 1:20 am | #

Just a note, they may not need a draft. Funny thing is, a lot of people don't read the back of their enlistment papers. If they did they might notice this little factoid. A male enlisted personnel may be called back to duty at anytime up until age 65 and an enlisted female up until age 55. If your an officer, you can be called back at any age. That's why we already have several retirees on active duty in Iraq.

I'm 45, a single mom and out of shape, but they could still activate my happy ass.
Ellen Lincourt | 10.17.04 - 1:31 am | #

Some of us have a family, others have an odessey.
nur al cubicle | Homepage | 10.17.04 - 1:43 am | #

Well I support setting up colonies off the world. Of course, I advocate space colonies in the stable lagrange points first, they could support several million eventually if you go by the book High Frontier.

Also remember, Mars is the god of war...
Mimiru | 10.17.04 - 1:52 am | #

http://wakeusup.blogspot.com/200...ush- linked.html

Marvin P Bush..
DAN RATHER | Homepage | 10.17.04 - 2:14 am | #

Be careful about the weather on the first Wednesday in November. Expect hurricane force winds---who knows, maybe a change of direction of the Jet Stream or something, because when Kerry wins the entire world is going to let out one massive sigh of relief.
James of DC | 10.17.04 - 2:22 am | #

What the fuck:

MARS, BITCHES!!!

Laugh or die. Your choice.
Ferris | 10.17.04 - 2:26 am | #

Was this a line from Rocky Horror Picture Show?
Jon Koppenhoefer | 10.17.04 - 3:28 am | #

charlie don't surf, and do you honestly think coming here and being a laughably self-righteous cocksucker is really going to help? Apophenia

What a total loser: aophenia.
Tom P. | 10.17.04 - 7:31 am | #

Ellen: Funny thing is, a lot of people don't read the back of their enlistment papers. If they did they might notice this little factoid. A male enlisted personnel may be called back to duty at anytime up until age 65 and an enlisted female up until age 55. If your an officer, you can be called back at any age. That's why we already have several retirees on active duty in Iraq.

I can't imagine that this would pass a "legal contract" test... people should be challenging it in court. Involuntary servitude cannot legally be "contracted" ... I'm not an attorney but I know at least that much. The military relies on intimidation, rather like the IRS. It banks on people being too afraid to challenge what is clearly illegal in a so-called "nation of laws". Why this isn't taught to kids in high school every damn day remains a mind-boggling mystery to me. Unless of course one understands that schools were never designed to teach people to be "free". [sigh]
Kate_Storm | Homepage | 10.17.04 - 7:39 am | #

"pilonidal cyst" according to Google, although my original comment was only setting up the money line: Right ailment, wrong asshole.

and a brilliant money line it was. it earned today's coveted "damn, i wish i had posted that" award.

your prize will be delivered by halliburton, if they don't just steal it out of the back of the truck...
roxtar | 10.17.04 - 8:58 am | #

Three words: turnout, turnout, turnout.

And I wonder if the Repubs see this one coming: the flu shot shortage is going to lose this election for them. You don't piss off the old folks so close to election day.
Sera | 10.17.04 - 9:38 am | #

Has anyone ever noticed that the angry red planet looks kinda like a Falafel (sic)
Nancy Richardson | 10.17.04 - 10:34 am | #

No time to be complacent. Full court press. I plan to be a poll watcher.
Personal | 10.17.04 - 11:20 am | #

"I'm not going to be Bush's monkey, bitches."
Michigan | 10.17.04 - 12:09 pm | #

OK, Greek and Roman history time.
Mars is the God of War.
When Mars is in the sky, someone is going to get their ass kicked.
When the war is over, then the winners get to write the history book,
or history tablet, and say... "See, the Gods are on our side".
George is hoping that his god comes out on top.
If he looses, then Osama get's to send a tape to Al Jazerra that "My God, kicks Butt!"

Stay tuned to your satellite dish.
Chuck | Homepage | 10.17.04 - 2:07 pm | #

dear Charlie don't Surf:

a family member dying isn't hilarious but is rather sad

however

on the whole, 1100 american troopers going into battle and dying for no good reason at all is quite funny when i think about it. the civilized nations use military might as their means of affecting change in the world. they go about destroying many things, it's laughable when their pawns die fervently and pointlessly. besides the quintessential Soldier never had the heart or the insight to LIVE for a good cause, only to go die and/or KILL for a bogus disgusting one.

quite possibly very funny.
I Am Dali | 10.17.04 - 2:49 pm | #

'Let me see what spring is like on, a Jupiter and Mars...'
El Gringo | 10.17.04 - 3:17 pm | #

I think the real question is, what will Woot choose as the victory boobie!?!

A trifecta of martian bitches? Because martian boobies come in threes.

To the moon, Bush
weblackey | Homepage | 10.17.04 - 3:37 pm | #

And named for the hot-headed unstable God of War no less.

The cosmos loves nothing better than heaping on the irony.

Later on my bitches... and you are all my bitches.
PeskyFly | Homepage | 10.17.04 - 3:40 pm | #

Central Scrutinizer says we can't make this up:

President Bush turned the tables Saturday on Sen. John Kerry, declaring "the best way to avoid the draft is to vote for me," and pledged to oppose mandatory military service.

Heh, this used-car salesman also promised us a "humble foreign policy". I'll believe what the Chimp says the day after he finds a few megatons of WMDs in Iraq.
Carbo | 10.17.04 - 4:10 pm | #

all your SWEET BITCHES

hard at work....
sampo | 10.18.04 - 5:15 am | #

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