I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Fux frist!
Frist fuxing!
The one thing I dislike about the ad is that she doesn't look in the camera at me when she delivers the message. Probably just a nit pick though.
This ad should be seen.
Another good place to donate: Kerry's GELAC fund, which will finance the post-election battle against the losing brownshirts who won't admit it.
All the ads by that group are great. Do they get play in any of the "battleground" states? Here in California, the good news and the bad news is, we don't see any national ads with any regularity.
Where is the ad going to air?
there was another ad on buzzflash the other day , probably still, there , that intercut bush's WMD comedy bit with photos of the war-mangled in iraq. i thought that one right on.
(glad to see theres someone else in CA up at this ungodly hour, i'm on deadline, whats your excuse ?)
...glad to see theres someone else in CA up at this ungodly hour, i'm on deadline, whats your excuse?
I'm a cranky old man with a bunch of hungry cats.
I gave money but their website made me a bit nervous. There is no confirmation page, to verify that the donation info is correct, and no confirmation email, they didn't even ask for my email address.
In all honesty, we have not done enough of throwing GWB's words back at him. Maybe if the campaign's high-paid media consultants could stop with the "feel good" BS ads and get to some raw meat during this last week, maybe we can pull this out.
Why do the 527 organizations do a better job producing ads than experienced media consultants?
I am sick of our candidates being portrayed as baby killers while the real crooks, thugs, and idiots get off scott free.
As former Tennessee Goivernor Frank Clement said, "How long O Lord, how long?"
1. Is this thing actually going to be running, in flights other than just the occasional "527" buy from the group that produced it? Or, considering Greenberg's involvement, is maybe the Kerry campaign going to "buy" this spot and run it as their own?
2. Has anyone tested the "wolf" spot, and does it measure up to the response this one got?
Gotta tell ya... for all the buzz about the "wolf" spot, it was mondo lame. Not even original... the "bear" spot made a point... this is just a buncha cute lil' wolfies.
(I can hear the strategerists now: "Reagan scared 'em with bears, right? So, we'll have ourselves a pack of WOLVES! Get it? WOLVES! Not the same as bears, 'cuz it's WOLVES, see?")
The wolves are adorable. It looks like an ad for the Sierra Club. And
the Win Back Respect ad is great.
I gave money but their website made me a bit nervous. There is no confirmation page, to verify that the donation info is correct, and no confirmation email, they didn't even ask for my email address.
I got a confirmation page and email.
apparently, the wolves scared judy woodruff. from salon:
Sometimes we here at War Room watch CNN and think that Jon Stewart and company would have a year's worth of "moments of zen" if they just recorded the proceedings. Today's CNN moment of zen came this afternoon as Judy Woodruff spoke to Caroline Kennedy Schlossberg, who, despite her aversion to publicity and media attention, hit the campaign trail for John Kerry in Wisconsin today and even subjected herself to a CNN interview.
After some talk about why Schlossberg was inspired to stump for Kerry, how he'd be better for women and families, and what he has to do to shore up the female vote, Woodruff moved on to the campaign topic du jour: an alarmist and cynical fear-mongering ad just released by Bush-Cheney '04, called "Wolves."
The "back story" of the Wolves ad, as the Bush team tells it, is that the ad was tested months ago in focus groups and was so powerful -- so persuasive -- that BC '04 held it close to the vest and is only now unveiling it to deliver the big KO to Kerry-Edwards. Trumping up the ad in the hopes of fooling people into being impressed by it, rather than appalled, the Bush team is painting the Wolves ad as a kind of unpleasant October surprise for John Kerry, rather than a sign of their own desperation. Clearly, Judy got the memo.
In her interview, Woodruff asked Schlossberg about the "Wolves" ad in breathless tones that suggested she was also convinced Kerry had a serious problem on his hands here. "What do you say about this ad?" Woodruff said, and we're paraphrasing. "A Bush adviser said they tested the ad and it was so powerful they decided to run it in the final days of the campaign, that it shows a weakness of John Kerry's." The Republicans say terrorists smell the fear all over John Kerry and are ready to pounce! However will he respond?!
Caroline Kennedy Schlossberg, looking a little confused and amused about the whole wolves thing, brought a moment of clarity and yes, a moment of zen, to Woodruff's program: "I can't believe anyone would make up their mind based on an ad showing a bunch of animals running around," she said. Here's hoping.
Best ad of this entire campaign season. Sent them some money even though I'd promised myself that I was through contributing. Needs to be shown as much as possible.
Also, check out the front page of this morning's WaPo for a pretty good article on Jon Stewart.
the thing about the wolves ad is once again all pundits are talking about it .. so even if it is so lame it is getting more coverage than ad buy because Republicans said it "tested thru the roof"
DNC should pick up this ad and say this is their "Wolve" ad .. the great one that tested thru the roof..
"Pollsters Greenberg, Quinlan & Rosner tested the ad and found that after viewing it just once, there was an almost unprecedented 8 point gross shift away from Bush in voting intentions among the 750-person test sample. It also badly eroded support for Bush across a wide range of measures including confidence in his Iraq policy and key measures of character including honesty and sharing the concerns of ordinary people"
Make it into a story
While I agree with the sentiment, and the idea behind the ad, (and keep in mind...I haven't done squat compared to these people and am just criticising) when Bush did that bit I immidiately thought of the ad I would like to see.
For one thing it would have to be a little longer. For another it would go back and forth between his crass, unforgivable "joking" about this to much harder information.
Like him saying what he says, laughing, juxstasposed with still shots of the destruction, of the number of American soldiers dead, number "wounded" (and when there is talk of "wounded" I think there ought to be a new category of the kind "permanently i.e. missing limbs, sight, chronically sick for the rest of their lives, and a third category of wounds that can heal...) AND Iraqis dead, destruction...
I know it is too much too hope for, but I am reminded of something that hit me incredibly hard in the vietnam time...it was Hendrix in the documentary "Jimi Plays Berkeley" where played "Machine Gun" and while he played those mournful and chilling notes suddenly there were actual still photos from that war of the suffering and death. That was poignent.
In short, I'm glad they made the ad, I wish it were done better and related more of the true horror, along with our sociopath of a president that doesn't even have the human decency to treat the issue with the gravity it deserves.
But what can one expect from a president that says he's "been to war" when he sat it out THOUGH he supported it.
Too many people are refusing to actually know what the results of this deranged administration are.
Once again.
http://www.api4animals.org/1593.htm
BUsh, Cheney and Rove couldn't care less about wolves.
"Just when wolves are starting to make a comeback, the Bush Administration plans to remove the very protections that helped save them from extinction," said Nicole Paquette, API's Director of Legal and Government Affairs. 2003
this ad doesn't do it for me. i hope it's ok to say this since i'm in her same demographic, but a 20-30something white female can be easily dismissed by a leaner or undecided as a femist intellectual snob. If it was a cute 11-year old girl scout type, it would be much more effective.
whenever anyone is interviewd about how powerful this stupid fucking ad is, why not just bring up the fact that these same wolves, that sense fear, had no problem attacking on 9/11 when junior was in office
i'm in for $100
but a 20-30something white female can be easily dismissed by a leaner or undecided as a femist intellectual snob
She isn't a demographic. She's a grieving sister
who lost her brother in George Bush's war. Good Lord, can't you see her as a person?
People who have never suffered a grievous loss might play the politics of this ad; everyone else is right there with her.
Odd, MoveOn and WinBackRespect must be collaborating on this one cuz I gave $ for this same ad via MoveOn.
Wanna help dump DeLay? View this ad made by Dean's Democracy for America, www.retiretomdelay.com, and chip in anything you can spare.
OT:
My campus ran a mock election this week. Kerry got.... 79%. Sure it's a campus, but still...
This is off topic, but I'm pissed off.
Three scumbag republicans here in Minnesota are blocking naming the VA Medical Center in Minneapolis after Paul Wellstone as a testiment to his tireless advocation of veterans issues.
http://startribune.com/stories/5...87/
5047798.html
Both Minnesota Senators, five of eight congresspeople, the entire US Senate, the VA itself and ever veterans group in Minnesota want the place named after Paul and these assholes are blocking it out of spite.
Jeff: Please NAME these cucksocking mutherfockers, and provide a link so that we may acost them and make them very sad...
It hasn't run in the Cincinnati market yet, though we are getting blasted a lot by the "consoler in chief" ad with Bush huggin the kid whose mom died in the Twin Towers. I think this would be a great counter to that one.
BUsh, Cheney and Rove couldn't care less about wolves.
for that sin as well as so many others, I wish them all dead...
Chimpy stood on the top of the hill.
The valley below lay peaceful and still.
If he took a big dump,
Would it stay in one clump,
As it rolled down to the waiting landfill?
I gave money but their website made me a bit nervous. There is no confirmation page, to verify that the donation info is correct, and no confirmation email, they didn't even ask for my email address.
"Karin"
You SHAMELESS FUCKING LIAR. This is the exact same text you used to try and disrupt contributions to another worthy site about 4-6 months ago.
Ignore this loathsome troll's "concerns," folks.
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I hope they can get this ad televised in Ohio. It could really turn the tide.
Jeff: Please NAME these cucksocking mutherfockers, and provide a link so that we may acost them and make them very sad...
John Kline, Mark Kennedy, Gil Gutknecht
ESCHATONIANS!!! Unite!!!
Whenever Bush or any of his minions, lackeys, lick-spittles and sycophants appears in public, ANYfockingWHERE, they need to be greeted by pyres and piles of burning pants...
This would be the most effective public tactic you could probably bring off...
SO ANYWHERE there's a Bushista speaking, there should be a phalanx of smouldering trousers ALL around them
I like the way the ad contrasts Bush's lack of seriousness with the very real life-and-death issues at stake. Some part of me fears it won't work, though, because our society is so perverse about female anger, even when it's righteous. Whaddya think?
I gave $200 and I got an e-mail recipt. Anyone who expresses vague "concern" or "misgivings" about something that is generally positive for Kerry or the Dems h on this site should be presumed to be lying.
To those who wish the ad were more "powerful", you don't understand that an ad can be too graphic to be effective -- hearing screams and cries is so upsetting that many people would turn it off. The sister's grief is so palpable, and the juxtaposition so stark that I think it works pretty well. Also, in an understated way (showing the photograph of the brother with the Iraqi kid) the ad is overall positive about the troops. It's a pretty remarkable ad, really.
hey, the link to the ad has disappeared. fix it, o mighty atrios
The "back story" of the Wolves ad, as the Bush team tells it, is that the ad was tested months ago in focus groups and was so powerful -- so persuasive -- that BC '04 held it close to the vest and is only now unveiling it to deliver the big KO to Kerry-Edwards. Trumping up the ad in the hopes of fooling people into being impressed by it, rather than appalled, the Bush team is painting the Wolves ad as a kind of unpleasant October surprise for John Kerry, rather than a sign of their own desperation. Clearly, Judy got the memo.
HOLD IT...."PUPPIES" is the october suprise!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Burning Britches
Liar, liar, pants on fire...
That's the meme!
Anytime any focking Bushit sycophant, scumball, slimebag apologist shows up on any forum, they should be met by phalanxes of flaming pantaloons...
Are US national elections free and fair???
Are you fuckig kidding me?
Since 2000, and even more since 2002, NO election in the US for positions in the national government can EVER AGAIN be regarded as untainted...
And anyone who says so is an apologist for the fascist fux who want to destroy the last vestiges of citizen participation and/or citizen activism...
Burning Britches
Liar, liar, pants on fire...
That's the meme!
ESCHATONIANS!!! Unite!!!
Whenever Bush or any of his minions, lackeys, lick-spittles and sycophants appears in public, ANYfockingWHERE, they need to be greeted by pyres and piles of burning pants...
This would be the most effective public tactic you could probably bring off...
SO ANYWHERE there's a Bushista speaking, there should be a phalanx of smouldering trousers ALL around them
Anytime any focking Bushit sycophant, lickspittle, scumball, slimebag, asswipe apologist shows up on any forum, they should be met by phalanxes of flaming pantaloons...?
Are US national elections free and fair???
Are you fuckig kidding me?
Since 2000, and even more since 2002, NO election in the US for positions in the national government can EVER AGAIN be regarded as untainted...
And anyone who says US national elections CAN AGAIN BE TRUSTED is an apologist for the fascist fux who want to destroy the last vestiges of citizen participation and/or citizen activism...FUCK 'EM...
sorry 'bout that doubled post...
not really...
Konopelli - you are fired up this morning. Good.
100 from me too.
Tena, I am so pissed i could actually do violent harm to someone...
Bush is gonna be in Abq this week, I hear, and I plan to be somewhere along his route with a with an old-gasoline-soaked pair of sweats...
second request, Atrios: the link's disappeared.
The pants-on-fire meme should be ubiquitous during the last week of this campaign...Mockery is the only thing these fascist fux cannot tolerate...so bring it on, folks...
guys,
the ad's here:
http://tinyurl.com/56drv
I contributed at the moveonpac website: https://www.moveonpac.org/donate/
...esntgetit.html# . They are aiming to air it "for $1 million in the swing states where it can make the biggest difference". The ad is powerful, and I hope that it will be effective.
I contributed at the moveonpac website: https://www.moveonpac.org/donate/
...esntgetit.html# . They are aiming to air it "for $1 million in the swing states where it can make the biggest difference". The ad is powerful, and I hope that it will be effective.
NyMary -- re:79%
nice, but it's still a huge majority in the least-voting segment of the electorate.
No, I am not a troll. I tried again, this time I noticed there is a spot for the email address(not enough coffee the first time around), but once I make the donation, it takes me to a page that simply says "This transaction has been confirmed", without showing the amount. I am accustomed to getting a chance to review the information before reconfirming,on most sites. So it did concern me.
Second try, I did get the email, so I'm not sure if I've donated once or twice. Whatever, it's a good cause.
thanks nymary, but I can't get through with that site either. just a blank screen.
I went directly to the Sisters Speak Out site and donated at http://www.winbackrespect.org/ads/
It's properly secured and received an accurate confirmation within a couple minutes.
I'm another one that wasn't going to give any more money but this is a powerful ad that people should see. Especially Bush and Rumsfeld.
I wasn't sure that would work, because the link woks fine for me. Maybe a browser setting?
Here's the real address
http://www.winbackrespect.org/ads/
$100 from me
Viewed it and agree-very powerful-got $100 from me. We need to keep up the effort the the very last minute
A very good 24 hours:
1. Voted (albeit in Georgia -- Kerry has an early lead in my precinct!).
2. Gave $$$ to the ad campaign.
3. Signed up to volunteer in Ohio.
4. Badgers on ESPN at noon!
I have visited the winbackrespect site ten times and there is NO WAY to download or see the video that I can see.
A very good 24 hours:
1. Voted (albeit in Georgia -- Kerry has an early lead in my precinct!).
2. Gave $$$ to the ad campaign.
3. Signed up to volunteer in Ohio.
Right on, right on, right on!
4. Badgers on ESPN at noon!
"Badger, badger, badger, badger...mushroom, mushroom!"
Speaking of which, has the U. of Wisconsin marching band done anything with that? (If not, shame on them!)
Oh yeah, matched Atrios' contribution for the Win Back Respect ad. And if George Bush and Brooke Campbell were ever in the same room, the little twerp would be in trouble.
I viewed the video on my first generation IMAC.
RT: I didn't pick that up at my last game at Camp Randall! I did however get a great shot of the 5th Qtr for my phone's screen saver.
Giving money to this ad is literally like buying votes out of Bush's column.
My question is, Why didn't the Kerry campaign run this ad months ago?
You can see the ad and donate to MoveOn or directly to the Band of Sisters here:
http://www.jomiller.com/archives/2004/10/
four_long_years_1.html
Great post Atrios, I gave 50 bucks to winback (and 50 to blogpac this AM)
According to US Newswire dated 10/22/04 a one million dollar ad buy will run from October 25-27 in FL, IA, MN, NV, OH, PA and WI, Paid for by MoveOn PAC and created by Win Back Respect. It would be great if we could get this run longer and in more states like New Hampshire, Michigan, etc.
O.K., went to the website for the ad, just out of curiosity cause I figured I couldn't afford to donate. Then figured I couldn't afford NOT to donate. We gotta get rid of these people - my heart (and my stomach) can't take four more years!!!
I don't think the Democrats ads hit hard enough. How about this for 2 ads
1) Opening scene a news report of another threatened terrorist attack.
We see Bush saying we must be tough on terror.
News reports follow that the president has ordered detention of all Arab Americans in camps, and detention of all all believers in Islam including African-Americans.
News reports president declares Marshall law and suspends constitution and elections.
Closing scenes - two people talking "we feel much safer now even though we can't vote"
shot of newspaper front page with the date of Nov 4, 2008- Bush declares himself president indefinitely.
2) Alternating shots of newspaper front page and president Bush.
First Newspaper- headline that N. Korea threatens to test nuclear weapon and Iran has enough fissle material for 8 bombs. Another headline says U.S. refusing to have bilateral talks with N. Korea.
Cutaway to Bush making statements from the debate about refusing to hold talks.
Newspaper- N. Korea / Iran have both tested weapons. U.S. refusing to join GLOBAL effort at diplomacy.
Bush- we will not submit to global tests. Attaching Iraq was the right thing to do.
Newspaper- missles fired at Israel, Japan, Hawaii.
Closing scene- don't we want a president who works with the rest of the world?
I'm in for $50. What a dick..
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