I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
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Does Bush have pre-Senile Dementia? Watch this video
By the way, the answer is Yes.
Is there anything he won't lie about?
Uh... Sadly, No! :-?
Yet another attempt to inflate his stature to compare with his father's.
Dude is one seriously demented individual. And incredibly insecure.
What an absolute asshole.
at least he connected with the youth. maybe they sold him some blow.
there you go again atrios! just keep on studying the reality he creates, see where that gets you. by the time this is all said and done, bush will have dreamed up the entire concept of charity, the relgious right will come to his defense, and all of us in the reality based community will be left drooling on ourselves as the nation falls deeper and deepeer into a maliase of non-intellectualism not witnessed since the middle ages. sure, we may emerge into a new renaissance in a few hundred years, or maybe we'll be the backwards culture that 23rd century indian and chinese intellectuals will be studying. can we start devising a way to defeat this new indeology of the ignorant while we continue to whine?
Why do folks suppose that the people in the media are talking to other people in PULL now?
They've known about the two-faced, thin-skinned boy king's "service" in PULL for years now.
i meant ideology, not indeology . . . oops
And his discharge code declared him somehow unfit to serve.
Put 2 and 2 together, guys...
i know this is petty, but even the title of his "autobiography" pisses me off. it should read "A Lie to Keep."
or something like that.
DUI and possession of a controlled substance aren't "charges to keep"?
So Bush was the kid's drug connection?
Just from watching the limited news coverage here in Iraq, its as if the GOP crew has stopped trying to come up with credible answers to any question -- lying has become second nature to these bozo's. Case in point was the only 1% increase in the defeciet that Bush claims happened on his watch during the debates. The strategy has to be that you can claim anything and nothing will stick to you as long as you come up with a bigger lie before the last one can be checked. It amazes me people (and many people in the military) are still being fooled by this clown. What this country needs is the equivalent of the British PM meeting with Parliment -- would very like to see Bush (or any Prez) answer questions that take more than studied responses to bluff your way through. Thanks for letting me vent, I feel better.
Pah, who hasn't lied on his resume?
What was George Wanker Bush pulling at Project P.U.L.L.?
Well, I don't have time to bitch about the shit today. I've got some flyers to pass out and a damn election to win. That is, until the police drag me off my no-permit ass.
Buh-bye.
Earl,
LOL!!! Good 'un!
Why do folks suppose that the people in the media are talking to other people in PULL now?
Turner, who said she has avoided reporters for years, agreed to be interviewed only after phoning her pastor for advice.
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When she hung up the phone, she turned to a reporter: "My pastor says if you found me, I should tell the truth."
Sadly, many of the people I know in managerial positions lie about things that happened to them. I once ran across my best friend's resume and didn't read the name until the end. I couldn't figure out whose it was. What is she doing now?
She is the Director of Environmental Quality Control at the IBM plant in Bromont, Quebec and has been for 10 years.
Many other manager types I know do the same thing. It seems it's the way to get ahead in the world.
...lying has become second nature to these bozo's...
Harv,
Thanks for your post, and stay safe. Only thing is, lying isn't their second nature. It's their first, last, and only. Comes with being thieves and gangsters.
And in 1999, who the hell was George W. Bush to be writing an autobiography? Like he was important? Puh-leeze. He was just another politician's cokehead son who lucked into every job he had.
Okay, that's enough pettiness for now.
I suppose there's no point in blaming haloscan for the un-closed tag...
Harv,
Bush can't even manage a debate without help. A parliamentary session would send him over the edge.
And like Dr. Pendant said, keep your head down and stay safe.
"My pastor says if you found me, I should tell the truth."
It took them how many years to find her? Wonder how much time they spent actively looking.
Helen Thomas raised the issue of community service and got a classic non-denial from either Ari the Liar or Scottie the Liar. This one may come back before November 2nd.
joe - you are just a little paranoid, honey. It's impossible to drag the U.S. back into the middle ages. This is an industrialized nation with communication technology running out its citizens' ears. The world grows smaller every day.
The pieces of the puzzle begin to come together: the "voluntary" community service, the additional flight time logged in a two-seater 102 after qualification, the refusal to submit to a physical exam requiring drug testing (blood & urine), the statements of Bush replacement's widow about Lt. Col. Killian's criticisms of Bush's performance (landing was a problem). "High on Cocaine, Driving that Plane, Georgie, better watch your speed."
What this country needs is the equivalent of the British PM meeting with Parliment -- would very like to see Bush (or any Prez) answer questions that take more than studied responses to bluff your way through.
Actually, you'd be surprised at the amount of bullshit that Blair can come up with. But it's much more obvious. For instance, on Wednesday -- you'll see the re-run on Sunday's CSPAN schedule -- Blair completely side-stepped the questions from Charles Kennedy about previous commitments to ensure British tactical control over British units in Iraq.
Blair basically answered a completely different question. But that was obvious, and the press called him on it within hours.
Anybody else seen this story about the possibility that AP could rig the election somehow?
Not sure how seriously to take it.
As I wrote when I posted about this over at my blog, there are a number of dots...
Remember how Scotty got prickly when asked about community service by Helen Thomas this past April?
Remember the Salon piece reporting an old Bush confidant who'd said that Bush needed to get out of Texas and to AL because he'd been too wild?
And lastly, if Bush can talk about 1973, why can't we?
rocket - at least someone is considering the possibility. that makes it a bit harder for AP to successfully pull it off.
OT: Further abuse at Abu Ghraib detailed (breaking news)
Boston Globe
This story firms up the theory I've had about Bush's lost year. I think he was in such trouble with the law in Texas that Poppy sent him to Alabama to get him out of here.
Missed physical, grounded, community service - Bush was busted.
Another quote from the same article:
"George had to sign in and out - I remember his signature was a hurried cursive - but he wasn't an employee. He was not a volunteer either," she said. "John said he had to keep track of George's hours because George had to put in a lot of hours because he was in trouble."
Aw. How unpresidential.
Bush shows off his
new halloween costume, which has him pretending to be a lectern.
uh
mah
gawd.
priceless pic, browbeater.
got to the part in kelley's book that brought up the abortion allegation.
pity an october suprise couldn't be engineered out of that. that would really rattle his base.
pity it takes more than mere incompetence of running the country down the toilet to get people to wake the fluck up.
Who rules America? Who cares?
WHO GIVES A FUCK?
The winning ad is video of them denying and lying. And then follow up with shot of the truth (with date)-- either video or shot of newspaper. 4 or 5 times rapid fire in one minute. No voiceover necessary.
The other winning ad is positions - clear, limited propoganda:
Security
Health Care
Education
Jobs
The public dont know enough to care about esoteric horseshit. Give 'em undisputed facts.
This year ain't the politics of personality. He's seen the error of his ways. Whose vote would be changed if he killed someone in a car accident?
Eye on the ball. no puppyshit
This has been W's smoking gun for years. Where's Seymore Hearsh when you REALLY need him?
Oh I think Sy Hersh has done his job and then some.
Slightly OT, but at least having to do with Bush:
This week on Whad'Ya Know, Michael Feldman interviewed Maureen Dowd. A couple of her remarks stuck in my mind, but not enough for these to be exact quotations.
"Most presidents live in a bubble, but this one is in a Thermos."
"One Bush went into Iraq to show that you can't invade another country unilaterally. The other one went into Iraq to show that you can."
Eventually the interview will be online at http://notmuch.com, second hour. Also check out the first hour, in which Michael Feldman interviews Michael Feldman regarding his latest book. Yes, he did read the book before interviewing himself.
OT: Is the puppies ad running nationally or just in swing states? Because I've now seen it twice here in Louisiana--does their internal polling show Louisiana to be less solidly Bush country than was previously thought? I mean, I've seen a lot of KE04 signs and stickers in New Orleans, but assumed that the rest of the state (remember, we are home to David Duke) would tilt it for Bush. Does anyone have any idea what's going on??
"THEY SHALL NOT PASS"
Son of the Beast; The great Deceiver!
Hey, maybe the Pope is right to wonder of Junior id the Anti-Christ.
Let's hope the mush spined media actually take the time to report this more widely. Let's get Chimp off his game this week trying to swerve answers about this.
Oh yeah, more violence in Iraq and Afghanistan today. Looks like the residents of our 51st and 52nd states are not going to stay quiet the week before the election. By the way has anyone spotted Bush or is he sneaking off to Tora Bora to pull Osama out of a cave himself?
what did hatfield say about bush's replacement texas driver's liscense and expunged record again?. it's been a while since i've read the book. we don't have a g. gordon liddy type able to recover this info? guess not.
oy. i got plagued for a minute wondering if it was ethical to uncover something that was unethically hidden.
This story firms up the theory I've had about Bush's lost year. I think he was in such trouble with the law in Texas that Poppy sent him to Alabama to get him out of here.
Missed physical, grounded, community service - Bush was busted.
Tena
My theory too, Tena.
Chronology goes like this.
Bush and James Bath were busted with coke in March/April 72. Around that time, his flying skills went down due to drug/alcohol abuse and was flying
trainer craft and even simulators.
Poppy wanted him out of the state before he can fix the drug charge. Hence he went to Alabama in June/July 72. His boss Killian wanted him to take physical ahead of his scheduled date (birthday) because he heard/suspected that Bush was on drugs. Bush could have taken physical by being clean for a week but he didn't want to take chances. So sacrificed his TANG service. He was back in TX in Dec72/Jan73. By that time, his case was fixed by poppy, he was asked to do 3 or 6 months of community service, which he did at PULL. His records were sealed. I guess in Texas, criminal records for even adults can be sealed, if they have a pull.
One could piece all this together just by reading blogs for the last year or so.
Hmm. Bush did his "non-voluntary" work at P.U.L.L. in Houston, while still being paid by the T.A.N.G. Then, he gets his early discharge, with a still-cryptic notation that he's somehow unfit for duty.
Anyone check to see if there were any courts-martial (or even more likely, non-criminal administrative discipline) proceedings in the military justice systemagainst Bush around 72-73? Maybe people have been snooping around for this "conviction" in the wrong court system entirely . . .
i read that one, f. that was in her rolling stone interview. that's available online now. what got me was how she associated patriotism with jingoism when she bragged about boycotting french wine. she acknowledges how stupid that is. so why would she do that? lest somebody mistake her for (gasp) a liberal? she endulges a minor freeper affectation so as to appear...what? not a raving lunatic lefty? what a dolt.
Or try the replacement test: a black scumbag suddenly, out of nowhere and out of character, begins charity work which would be accepted by a court of law as community service; would anyone not a paid optimist on BET accept that as sincere generally-directed love? But George Bush gets the benefit of every official pundit's doubt.
OT: but - who wants to bet that the twitching chimp will show up front and center for the first game of the world series?
can we start devising a way to defeat this new indeology of the ignorant while we continue to whine?
joe
Joe,
It's pretty simple.
Get Out The VOTE.
Michael - I think that's pretty much it. Wasn't there some speculation in the blogosphere about some of the code on Bush's military records? I vaguely recall someone trying to make noise that a combination of letters and numbers signalled that Bush had been discharged less than honorably.
As far as expunging records - anyone who has been convicted of a crime in Texas can petition to have his record expunged. It isn't necessarily easy to have it granted, but it would have been for Poppy. In fact, it probably would have all been done very quietly and quickly back in 72, 73.
it's not so new, joe.
Hatfield recounts calling Source No. 3 to ask him to confirm the story he has from the first two. His 'Eufaula Connection' calls him back half an hour later. Here's what Hatfield writes about what Eufaula told him: 'I can't and won't give you any names, but I can confirm that W.'s Dallas attorney remains the repository of any evidence of the expunged record.
If he was honorably discharged where's his DD-214? In fact, since the DD214 is the simplified one-stop career summary and proof of honoirable discharge, why didn't his hiccuping record releases start with that? In fact, wasn't this question asked twenty years ago (his failed congressional bid) and every few years since without an answer?
Bush lies SO much, he can't even keep his lies straight.
Channel hopping this morning. A caller on a C-Span show is whining and crying about "how everyone is so NEGATIVE about war in Iraq. "
She says "Why don't they talk to the people who think it's GOOD that we're there?"
I thought "THIS bitch has really taken a BIG drink of the KoolAid."
America: Land of the Dumb,
I saw the puppies ad today.
It's pathetic, really!
Shows Bush and his fellow dumbasses know nothing about nature.
Wolves are not ferocious and they are more afraid of us than we are of them!
Hmmm... high altitude flight training = low atmospheric pressure
What happens if you've been snorting a lot of coke and your sinuses and nasal passages are gettin' kinda raw? Nosebleeds, perhaps? Just wonderin'
so... any evidence that aWol drove one of the PULL girls down to Mexico for...um.....some medical advice?
Rarely is the question asked, "Would you want George Bush driving your airplane?"
Hi all -- In watching the electorl map/polling the last few weeks, I hve generally thought (as many have suggested) that if Kerry wins OH and PA, he'd be a sure bet. Obviously that may still be true, but there seems to be an undercurrent now that if Bush takes Florida (and who among us doesn't think that state is fixed for Bush), he may have enough strength in WI and IA, and maybe MN, to win w/o Ohio.
I live in MN, am doing what I can, and fell MN will, when push comes to shove, go Kerry's way. But this WI-IA possibility for Bush has me a bit worried. If Kerry needs PA, OH, AND FL to win, it could be a long night.
Thoughts?
Hi all -- In watching the electorl map/polling the last few weeks, I hve generally thought (as many have suggested) that if Kerry wins OH and PA, he'd be a sure bet. Obviously that may still be true, but there seems to be an undercurrent now that if Bush takes Florida (and who among us doesn't think that state is fixed for Bush), he may have enough strength in WI and IA, and maybe MN, to win w/o Ohio.
I live in MN, am doing what I can, and feel MN will, when push comes to shove, go Kerry's way. But this WI-IA possibility for Bush has me a bit worried. If Kerry needs PA, OH, AND FL to win, it could be a long night.
Thoughts?
As far as expunging records - anyone who has been convicted of a crime in Texas can petition to have his record expunged. It isn't necessarily easy to have it granted, but it would have been for Poppy. In fact, it probably would have all been done very quietly and quickly back in 72, 73.
W's new driver's license
As far as expunging records anyone who has been dennis kucinic
QP - here are my thought on your spamming up the threads with that comment - stop it, please.
Wolves are not ferocious and they are more afraid of us than we are of them!
as with so many bush speeches/commercials/releases, the truth about wolves is irrelevant.
what is important is what fat-assed koolaid drinkers believe about wolves.
"I don't think a 20something drug bust should disqualify anyone for anything, really, although obviously our currrent Bush-supported drug laws don't agree with me."
You misspelled Bush-and-Kerry-supported.
QP,
The math of this baffles me, but I don't think they'll call this race until late, late. The networks definitely don't want to get caught miscalling it this time.
I live in MN, am doing what I can, and feel MN will, when push comes to shove, go Kerry's way. But this WI-IA possibility for Bush has me a bit worried. If Kerry needs PA, OH, AND FL to win, it could be a long night.
Thoughts?
It sucks to vote in Texas.
The math of this baffles me, but i used to play his records as a pencil or nail clippers.
commander codpiece is as likely to volunteer to help those in need as i am to discover that invisible ghosts give a rat's ass about who votes for whom.
-J.T.
Warlord of Silver Spring
Mars, Bitches!
Is there anything he won't lie about?
No, next question.
And, remember folks, it's not about the sex, it's about the lying...
So Chica Toxica is on the right track. We already have it from the few people who remember him in Alabama that he was by his own words a sex machine (emetic!). And there are those stories about his having this kind of inconvenience taken care of South of the Border.
Not that any of our finer organs of the press are going to do any digging into anything so sordid as a sex scandal. They're much too fine to do anything like that.
Not that any of our finer organs of the responsibilities that individuals ought to assume themselves and are fully capable of it.
Lt. John F. Kerry secretly met with the Communist Viet Cong - America's enemy during a time of war - in 1970 while Lt. Kerry was still in the U.S. Naval Reserves.
See:
http://
nikita_demosthenes.blogsp...738055065098109
I think he was in such trouble with the law in Texas that Poppy sent him to Alabama to get him out of here.
hadn't seen this one before.
but this is what I was really looking for.
I think he was in such trouble with the help of allah; enjoy the godgiven victory
"Lt. John F. Kerry secretly met with the Communist Viet Cong - America's enemy during a time of war - in 1970 while Lt. Kerry was still in the U.S. Naval Reserves.
Yeah, and you're STILL meeting with your crack dealer....often!
You misspelled Bush-and-Kerry-supported.
you misspelled "I am a pathetic dittohead who masturbates to Ann Coulter covers, has his mommy dress him, and is behind on his GOPoints with only ten days to go.".
HTH.
"OT: but - who wants to bet that the twitching chimp will show up front and center for the first game of the world series?"
I wouldn't recommend that here at Fenway. A few years ago they introduced the new mascot "Wally" and he was booed and pelted from the stands.
theodoric - I hadn't seen the Rolling Stone piece either, but had read the one on Salon.
leo - you really aren't adding anything to the conversation. If you want to troll, then troll. If not, then comment. But you aren't making any sense.
Nikita - You so funny. Ooh, what's going to come out of the anxiety closet? What?! Oh no, god, not that, not ----- The Communists!
We have several proposals currently on the right track.
But you arent making any sense
Bush is obiously a liar.
However, it is possible for a volunteer to help run something. Also, just because you aren't paid, doesn't mean you aren't working.
Please do not take this as a defense of Bush. Take it as a defense against the inadvertent trivialization of "good works".
All hail the Potemkin Preznit!
This guy is pure cardboard cutout, and a dumbass, to boot. Apparently the only close friends he's really had are a few that shared the ecstasy of jeebus with him. With that creepy laugh, he reminds me of every "fifth wheel" I've ever encountered - the ones barely tolerated because they had the big car or were old enough to buy.
I often wonder why the powers behind the RNC hand picked him for the presidency. They aren't stupid, so why pick a charmless idiot with all his liabilities?
Somebody's got some seriously damaging blackmail material somewhere. Will we ever find out?
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'leo' is obviously a bot. Ban the fuckr's IP.
As for all these revelations: they'll come out like a blown dam when Kerry wins, because the press won't have to kowtow to the White House any more.
I'm pretty surprised they got away with running this story so close to the election.
It's a Knight-Ridder paper, and they've been less cowed by this administration than most; not as surprising as it would be to see this in some other papers.
See:
I know you know how to link, because you did it after everyone told you what an inconsiderate asshole you were for blowing out Haloscan every time you blogwhored.
No one's going to read your propaganda and an enterprising poster gave us info that prevents this from happening. So even though I can tell that your post would have screwed things up, it didn't.
Now get lost. If it weren't for the actions of men like Kerry and John McCain, families may never have gotten the much-needed information they begged for that gave them some sense of closure.
Bush was and is an irresponsible coward. That you slobber all over him doesn't say much for you.
Wait...Bush lies? WHOA!
As for all these revelations: they'll come out like a blown dam when Kerry wins, because the press won't have to kowtow to the White House any more.
Not that simple. The general outlines of the story are well known, but a lot of the key witnesses have been intimidated into silence, and there's no reason to assume that the Bushes will call off their mafia just because W loses.
nikita_dem--
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Is this the reason why bush changed his schedule and went to Florida? Wanting to get out ahead of this story and generate some other news instead?
People, let's not forget: This is almost certainly associated with his non-appearance in the Texas Air National Guard at roughly the same time.
However, it is possible for a volunteer to help run something. Also, just because you aren't paid, doesn't mean you aren't working.
Please do not take this as a defense of Bush. Take it as a defense against the inadvertent trivialization of "good works".
The Bush Boy has never done "good works". He's a punk, pure and simple. If the Bush Boy was ever altruistic in a minimal sense at any time in his sorry-assed existence, hell would have surely frozen over.
People, let's not forget: This is almost certainly associated with his non-appearance in the Texas Air National Guard at roughly the same time.
I found the testimony of Jimmy Allison's widow in the Salon story I linked to above especially enlightning.
ctober 20, 2004
Lebanonwire
A Bush pre-election strike on Iran 'imminent'
White House insider report "October Surprise" imminent
By Wayne Madsen
According to White House and Washington Beltway insiders, the Bush administration, worried that it could lose the presidential election to Senator John F. Kerry, has initiated plans to launch a military strike on Iran's top Islamic leadership, its nuclear reactor at Bushehr on the Persian Gulf, and key nuclear targets throughout the country, including the main underground research site at Natanz in central Iran and another in Isfahan. Targets of the planned U.S. attack reportedly include mosques in Tehran, Qom, and Isfahan known by the U.S. to headquarter Iran's top mullahs.
The Iran attack plan was reportedly drawn up after internal polling indicated that if the Bush administration launched a so-called anti-terrorist attack on Iran some two weeks before the election, Bush would be assured of a landslide win against Kerry. Reports of a pre-emptive strike on Iran come amid concerns by a number of political observers that the Bush administration would concoct an "October Surprise" to influence the outcome of the presidential election.
According to White House sources, the USS John F. Kennedy was deployed to the Arabian Sea to coordinate the attack on Iran. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld discussed the Kennedy's role in the planned attack on Iran when he visited the ship in the Arabian Sea on October 9. Rumsfeld and defense ministers of U.S. coalition partners, including those of Albania, Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Georgia, Hungary, Iraq, Latvia, Lithuania, Macedonia, Mongolia, Poland, Qatar, Romania, and Ukraine briefly discussed a very "top level" view of potential dual-track military operations in Iran and Iraq in a special "war room" set up on board the aircraft carrier.
America's primary ally in Iraq, the United Kingdom, did not attend the planning session because it reportedly disagrees with a military strike on Iran. London also suspects the U.S. wants to move British troops from Basra in southern Iraq to the Baghdad area to help put down an expected surge in Sh'ia violence in Sadr City and other Sh'ia areas in central Iraq when the U.S. attacks Iran as well as clear the way for a U.S. military strike across the Iraqi-Iranian border aimed at securing the huge Iranian oil installations in Abadan. U.S. allies South Korea, Australia, Kuwait, Jordan, Italy, Netherlands, and Japan were also left out of the USS John F. Kennedy planning discussions because of their reported opposition to any strike on Iran.
In addition, Israel has been supplied by the United States with 500 "bunker buster" bombs. According to White House sources, the Israeli Air Force will attack Iran's nuclear facility at Bushehr with the U.S. bunker busters.The joint U.S.-Israeli pre-emptive military move against Iran reportedly was crafted by the same neo-con
pie:
try and actually form an argument...
i know you can if you try...
(and, ad hominem attacks don't really make you look too swift. but they do readily identify you as a Dem.)
"it's not about the sex, it's about the lying"
It's not about the coke or the youthful indiscretion, either. It's about the hypocrisy of Bush approving of other people getting caught and having their lives ruined for something he got away with repeatedly.
Terry:
try and actually form an argument...
i know you can if you try...
(and, ad hominem attacks don't really make you look too swift. but they do readily identify you as a Dem.)
speaking of which, perhaps you've met "pie"...
try and actually form an argument...
.
i know you can if you try...
pie is perfectly capable of making arguments to people who are worth arguing with.
which I think is more or less the point pie was trying to make.
and so am I, but I'm not going to argue with you either.
so go away.
nikita_demosthenes, is that the best you can do?
You're wrong about Kerry, and you know it.
And of course, nikita doesn't apologize for being an inconsiderate clod.
Just like a repug.
try and actually form an argument...
I'm not pie, but I'll form an arguement. You are a stupid son of a bitch. How'd you like that, Ignatz?
To equate Kerry with Communists when we all know that he was a badass in 'Nam and that your hero, the Bush Boy, was a cheerleading sissy, is patently absurd.
Now tell me about arguements, Jethro.
With Bush staying weak in the polls,
Lefty blogs get infested with trolls.
They lie and they smear,
But their motives are clear:
Stop John Kerry -- or Rove eats their souls.
Oh. My. God. nikita_demosthenes wants to be Ann Coulter when she grows up.
Hard to imagine. Very, very hard to imagine!
Gotta get the eye bleach. Mind bleach too. Eccchhhh....
there is absolutely no hard evidence that Bush was busted for drugs.
A far better explanation is that Bush was "assigned" to Project Pull by higher ups in the Texas Air National Guard.
Bush was paid for 17 days of service between May 1 and June 7, 1973, and 19 more days of service between July 2 and July 30, 1973. These include 28 days on "active duty" that was ordered on four different "active duty orders". These orders were issued on the letterhead/forms of the 147th Fighter Interceptor Group, and were all signed "for the commander" by an Asst Admin. Officer named Billy Lamar.
But the COMMANDER of the 147th, Bobby Hodges, has NO RECOLLECTION of Bush every returning to ellington Air Force base after he left for Alabama in May 1972. And the personnel officer of the 147th, Rufus T. Martin, thought that Bush had "finished out his last year" in Alabama.
do the math
Hey nikita - try to use TinyURL. I know you can if you try...
go play in the mud and leave pie alone. None of us have the time to waste with mouthbreathers like yourself.
As for Bush, I hate people who fudge their resume. Just gets everyone in trouble.
mouthbreathers like yourself
Gay, fat, mouthbreathers - don't matter if they vote for Kerry. Insult trolls some other way please.
Capital J - Oh that was very well done. I really like that.
Thank you, Tena!
I don't think that even this administration would attack Iran's leadership for short term political gain. I know they are shameless, but would they risk an immediate all out war with Iran? Because that's what would happen if they targeted Iran's leadership. This would probably be followed by impeachment because the attack would be so blatantly political and lead to so much bloodshead.
That said, they and/or Israel might attack Iran's nukes program.
Saw the "puppies" ad - am I missing something here? Is there a message only republicans can see? I can't take 4 more DAYS of this idiot!!!
To equate Kerry with Communists when we all know that he was a badass in 'Nam and that your hero, the Bush Boy, was a cheerleading sissy, is patently absurd.
Well, nikita is nothing if not absurd.
How sad it is to realize that these trolls have absolutely no respect for the troops, past or present, if they disagree with their politics.
Ad hominem? Don't make me laugh, you moron.
Fear sells, unfortunately. I know several very well-educated people who are voting for Bush because they are afraid of the big bad wolves out there in the world and believe only Bush can protect them. There is no reaching these folks with logic.
Interesting that there are well-educated people who still buy that shit about being protected by the preznit. I only know 2 people who are worried about the terrorists, and both of them are more afraid of Bush.
How many people do any of y'all know who are really afraid of terrorists?
How many people do any of y'all know who are really afraid of terrorists?
Tena
0.
Well, there's one woman I know who confesses to being a little nervous about terrorism, but she's nervous about a lot of things, so I'm not counting her. 
A drunk driving conviction in 72 would explain why his DUI in Maine in 76 got him a nearly 2 year driving suspension. 2 years would be really harsh (then) for a first offense.
Tena, I really have encountered a number of scared people. We're talking prosperous, smart folks whose first reaction to any alarming news event nowadays is to assume that terrorists are behind it. Scientists have found that some people have an inborn taste for risk and adventure, so maybe there's an opposite inborn trait to be fearful and pessimistic.
Interesting that there are well-educated people who still buy that shit about being protected by the preznit.
The most laughable aspect of the whole deal is that the Bush Boy could protect us from anything. His master is Karl Rove for chrissakes Karl is about as threatening as Mickey Mouse (except that Mickey is better looking).
The little shit Bush Boy couldn't prevent the freaking cooties.
"I don't think a 20something drug bust should disqualify anyone for anything, really, although obviously our currrent Bush-supported drug laws don't agree with me."
You misspelled Bush-and-Kerry-supported.
digamma
good point.
you misspelled "I am a pathetic dittohead who masturbates to Ann Coulter covers, has his mommy dress him, and is behind on his GOPoints with only ten days to go.".
1. What are "Ann Coulter covers"? Has she done an album of other people's songs or something?
2. If my mom dressed me, I'd look a lot better than I do now.
3. I'm way behind on my "GOPoints", because I've never heard that term before, and I haven't supported a Republican in an election since, um, the 2001 Philly DA election.
But to return to the subject at hand, do you disagree with my assertion that both Kerry and Bush support the war on drugs? It seems pretty uncontroversial to me.
Bush lies so instinctively that he lies even when he'd be better off telling the truth. I once worked w/ a guy like this and he was incurable. Even when people would confront him with the truth, he'd just make up more lies -- and they'd get more outrageous as he went along. This country needs a change.
Pathological Liar, that is what Bush is.
It is not possible for Bush to tell the truth.
Nothing makes Righties more furious than saying "I am not afraid of terrorists". I've said it, and they go all red in the face and start shouting. I wonder why that is? Could it be cause frightened people are easily minipulated? Or an overwhelming fear of "the terrorists" could make you forget about health care, the deficit, and so many other things?
Tena,
I live in Astoria, NY, right across the river from Manhattan. I have a 21-year-old daughter that works in the city every day. My 13-year-old goes to middle school here. I (and those who I love) am on public transportation every day.
I am not afraid of terrorists. I am never in fear on the subways.
However, I have nightmares every night that Bush will be elected.
BB, all,
This would probably be followed by impeachment because the attack would be so blatantly political and lead to so much bloodshead.
Oh, you mean like the way impeachment followed the blatantly political attack on Iraq that has led to so much bloodshed? There will be no impeachment for anything Bush does as long as the wingnut Republicans control the House of Representatives.
Seymour Hersh has beeen busy:
Hersh talked about a call he had gotten from a first lieutenant in charge of a unit stationed halfway between Baghdad and the Syrian border. His group was bivouacking outside of town in an agricultural area, and had hired 30 or so Iraqis to guard a local granary. A few weeks passed. They got to know the men they hired, and to like them. Then orders came down from Baghdad that the village would be "cleared." Another platoon from the soldier's company came and executed the Iraqi granary guards. All of them.
"He said they just shot them one by one. And his people, and he, and the villagers of course, went nuts," Hersh said quietly. "He was hysterical, totally hysterical. He went to the company captain, who said, 'No, you don't understand, that's a kill. We got 36 insurgents. Don't you read those stories when the Americans say we had a combat maneuver and 15 insurgents were killed?'
Actually, my thought was that George H.W. Bush might be the one monitoring his kid's time spent at the PULL headquarters, and thus wanting the timesheets. Drunken little sot was in hot water with Poppy, and Poppy must be appeased. When you're in your twenties, and the old man has a leash on your gonads, that's not so great, either.
I don't think that even this administration would attack Iran's leadership for short term political gain.
I don't think it will be Iran, either.
Bush's handlers have a bit of an idea that they need to get Iraq secured, that he's become far too vulnerable about the situation there. The internals are showing that people are getting more and more fed up with it, it's hurting. A lot. So they have to get control there, before they can con the public into going after Iraq. So guess what?
Here in San Antonio, AKA Military City, USA, there are rumbles about what's coming down the pike, from some people who would know.
What I keep hearing them talk about is a "massive" offensive into Fallujah; apparently, the thinking from Bush & his enablers is that, if Fallujah can be tamed, once and for all, the rest of Iraq can be controlled (I know, I know, but this has been the word for about two weeks now from the military community.
It's stupid, but I wouldn't put it past them to level Fallujah in the next week or two.
before they can go after IraN. Argh.
I've been doing a lot of door-to-door canvassing, and today started on phone canvassing. Had a nice conversation with an undecided woman who is petrified of terrorism, well-informed, just the sort who would be an enthusiastic Kerry supporter, but for that petrified of terrorism, maybe we shouldn't change right now, thing. (Patient twenty-minute conversation about accountability followed, urging her to consider how bad Bush's security team has been.) Funny, but my town was last visited by terrorists, of a sort, in 1780. The only way to play this game is one voter at a time, listening to them, and responding with the clear fact that a) Bush has failed b) we won't.
Bush's book *should* have been called _Charges to Keep Quiet, Convictions to Keep Covered Up_.
digamma,
dean had a proposal advocating medical rehab in lieu of jail time for people with minor drug busts.
kerry wouldn't have the guts to send a message like that.
w did the PULL gig because he got the chance to help people. Has he ever "helped" anyone since, except for himself and cronies? NO
george w. bush is now and always has been a worthless piece of shit. always will be too. the fact that he was ever nominated for any office by a major or even a minor party is a national disgrace.
This part from the K-R story is key, and is not quoted here or at TPM:
"George had to sign in and out - I remember his signature was a hurried cursive - but he wasn't an employee. He was not a volunteer either," she said. "John said he had to keep track of George's hours because George had to put in a lot of hours because he was in trouble."
It's a detail that someone would remember and not likely make up-- he had to account for his hours even though he was not an employee and wasn't being paid by PULL. This strongly suggests that he was assigned a precise number of hours that he had to account and sign for. Back then, judges had enormous discretion, especially for well-connected miscreants. Judges could offer military service in lieu of jail time--no small thing during the Vietnam war--or quietly sentence the scion of a prominent, rich well-connected old boy to volunteer work.
Just to cut through the bullshit--Bush was using coke, IMHO. That's why he suddenly refused to take a flight physical in 1972--the first year the physical included a drug test--and what he got busted and sentenced to PULL for. Know the name of the other pilot from the same unit who refused a flight physical that summer? Bush's party buddy James R. Bath, who later was the Texas money manager for the Bin Laden family and an investor in Dubya's first failed company, Arbusto.
demosthenes:
those pebbles in your mouth? cat turds. i can tell by your breath.
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Just remember that One Simple Question...
$8400 couldn't get this question asked!
We're on the verge of establishing quite a precedent -- namely, that a presidential candidate's criminal record doesn't merit exhaustive investigation and full disclosure.
Frankly, it's just too close to the election to be news now, unless someone really brings home the bacon.
And all we get at The World's Shortest Blog is a big, fat I-told-ya-so.
Let's hope more details surface before the election makes it all moot. The press has already rationalized why this isn't news.
The editors and reporters I've corresponded with seem very comfortable with not investigating this further. But they want to be the first ones to learn the truth -- if anyone cares to share it with them.
OT x 2
I think someone made reference to this upstream. The Bush military records released F.,10/15 gave a discharge code of PTI 961. This means Bush was kicked out of the TANG as "unfit to serve" although it doesn't indicate the exact details as to why.
http://www.glcq.com/pti_961.htm
The Pentagon knows exactly where Osama is hanging out in Pakistan. Go on over to http://www.talkleft.com & page down to "Pentagon Knows Where Osama is Hiding" to see the details.
Sorry, but I don't know how to do a hyperlink.
Has Laura eve had a job? Oh wait, she did her best to keep the coke monkey straight. I'm sorry
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I bet there's a real real real good chance that Hatfield guy was murdered by Bush family operatives.
Thye Bush family has numerous sus[icious deaths associated with them, including a number of "suicides" by
previously non-suicidal people who crossed/went against the family in some way, and suddenly "just had" to take their lives for some reason.
Also, Clifford Baxter (Enron exec who might have blown the whistle had he lived) died the same way.
Hmmmm.
I finally posted part 3 of Cocaine, Wrestling & George Bush on my website.
Part 4 should be done within the next few days.
At the time in question, Texas had a particularly humane procedure in its criminal law.
It was called "deferred adjudication."
A miscreant would plead guilty to a given charge. The court would conditionally accept the plea.
If a first offense, the miscreant would probably be placed on probation. If all conditions of probation were met, the miscreant could come back to court (after two years or one-third, whichever was less, of the period of probation had passed), and move to reopen the matter.
The court then had the authority to set aside the conviction and dismiss the indictment (or complaint, in the case of a misdemeanor).
But the case was still a matter of public record.
One further step. A conscientious lawyer would then file a petition to have the miscreant's records expunged. Upon proper proof, a court would grant the relief, and an order would go out to a surprisingly large nunmber of law enforcement agencies, including the FB and I, to destroy the miscreants records and remove his or her identity from data bases.
The records would be erased, and if sought, could not be found. They no longer existed. They were not sealed, as has been suggested. They simply no longer existed.
This was the law which well served many of my clients up to the time I retired in 1987.
It is most reasonable to believe that George was busted, probably for coke, that Poppy's phalanx of lawyers then leaped to the fore and did exactly what I have outlined. This is why there are no records.
The objection has been raised in other fora that at the time, there was no formal community service requirement in Harris County (Houston).
Nonsense. Formalities aside, a district judge sure had the authority to order a probationer to help keep the streets clean, help out at the public library, or to read to the kids at a given school - all as a condition of probation.
Perhaps this is why George kept staring off into space after he was told of the September 11 tragedy - he may have been reliving his days as a probationer, when he first learned to be a volunteer (although under judicial fiat), instead of facing the discomforts of the real world.
Jesus B. Ochoa, El Paso, Texas
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You know, this is sad. Bush made mistakes, he then did volunteer work for this organization(most likely required, but that's neither here nor there), and by some accounts did connect with the poor kids served by the organization. About 13 years later he officially got "saved", which ought to consist of feeling oneself a sinner and inadequate in the face of God, and also recognizing that we are all sinners together and ought to help each other and have compassion for each other.
It seems that perhaps he got closer at age 27 than age 40 and later. If so, sad.
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