I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
First?
impossible!
To ditch Delay would be to admit a mistake.
And to admit a mistake is a sign of weakness
Bugman does the frogwalk. Please God!
God I loves me some Ronnie Earle. Go Ronnie, baby!
Ronnie has been very careful with the investigation - Kos is right: If Delay is being called, then he's going down - sooner rather than later.
Off Topic but it worth reading.
Some PRIMO wingnuttery over on WorldNet Daily concerning Kerry's goose hunt.
DeLay responded with a vitriolic attack in today's Houston Chronicle about the subpoena and the ads Campaign Money Watch and DFA are running against him, calling it "gutter politics."
What's the expression, "the pot calling kettle black"?
Here's the ad from Campaign Money Watch that crawled under DeLay's skin -- still trying to raise money to keep it on the air:
http://www.campaignmoney.org/del...elay/
values.htm
Dave McNeely at the Austin American-Statesman also covered this today:
http://www.statesman.com/metrost.../
23MCNEELY.html
DeLay's days are numbered -- the sooner he's out the better. Think about the headlines and ramifications of a Kerry win and a DeLay loss on November 3rd.
Delay.
Mr. Tom Delay.
hang him high. stick his head on traitor's gate
Well one thing is for sure,
If the rethugs are going down this time, they'll be going ALL THE WAY down! They have accumulated such an egregious mountain of filth and sleaze in their time of total control that if the Dems get back in power now, there will be hell to pay. They have scarcely missed a single opportunity to gratuitously push the faces of the Democrats into the mud. It is like a giant dike holding back a huge body of water slowly cracking and springing a leak. DeLay will be only one of the crooks swept away and drowned by the raging torrent that is unleashed when the dam finally gives way.
exterminate the motherfucker.
Heh heh...thought he'd hide under the refrigerator after the lights came on.
Now he's on his back, arms and legs waving back and forth...
Hope spring eternal, I guess. Nothing's going to happen to DeLay. He'll skate free or maybe a couple of months at Camp Cupcake.
jules - and Ronnie Earle just came into the kitchen to step on him!
Oh life is sweet.
Flay DeLay!
I am not in his district but my repug sibling is. I took a look at the the online version of her local paper, the Brazosport Facts.
Nothing there about the pending indictment BUT while they've endorsed Dubya, they are firmly anti-DeLay, endorsing his Dem opponent.
What ever happened to "Kenny Boy" anyways? He just sorta, well, he just sorta, like, pissed it all away or something.
Sad, really.
Well, don't break open the champagne yet. From Kos:
Update: Okay, I screwed up in the original version of this story. DeLay wasn't called to testify by Earle, but in a seperate civil lawsuit regarding the Texas redistricting.
That testimony will not go forward on Monday. DeLay's lawyers have moved to squash the subpoena, and the issue will be litigated before a final determination is made whether DeLay will be forced to testify or not.
Delay is learning the meaning of karma
Oh man. Just think of the headlines that would come out of a DeLay indictment.
I can even see a wOOt booby in an Orkin uniform.
I love Glenn!, "MORE PEACE-TALK FROM THE GLOBAL LEFT
The Guardian)
On November 2, the entire civilised world will be praying, praying Bush loses. And Sod's law dictates he'll probably win, thereby disproving the existence of God once and for all. The world will endure four more years of idiocy, arrogance and unwarranted bloodshed, with no benevolent deity to watch over and save us. John Wilkes Booth, Lee Harvey Oswald, John Hinckley Jr - where are you now that we need you?
"You know, if a Republican said something like that, it would be hate speech. And, really, if you need a reason to vote for Bush, that it will make people like this miserable for four years surely ought to be enough."
Look, how many times do you liberals get you hopes up only to have the broken and the jagged rocks below? Nothing is going to happen to DeLay. Because:
1.) He's rich.
2.) He's got the connections out the wah-zoo.
"squash" the subpoena? that's one freudian anti-bug slip by kos.
Yeah, maybe getting your hopes up, however briefly, is better than never getting your hopes up at all.
Political motivations turned criminal Thursday night or early Friday when vandals smashed a large glass door with a section of cinder block at the Republican Party headquarters in downtown Flagstaff.
A pile of shattered glass joined egg shells filling the entryway to the GOP offices, located on Humphreys Street across from Wheeler Park. Fliers with information criticizing President Bush were stacked up outside the door.
Incognito - "You liberals" ? Freudian slip, perhaps?
Stop it. No one is a super villain. No one is immune from being caught when he does something illegal.
Go have a lemonade or something.
Anonymous - well, you know, it hasn't made the big news around the country, but the headquarters of ElectionProtection2004 in Dallas was broken into this summer, and the computers taken.
Kenny Boy? Funny you should ask--he got some bad news this week.
What ever happened to "Kenny Boy" anyways?
Kenny Boy is knee deep in shit right now. The judge in his case decided to split the charges into *two* trials. So the govt will have two chances to convict him. Experts are saying it was about the worse outcome he could have expected.
Re Bugkiller - Houston Chronicle has endorsed his opponent. DeLay's redistricting weakened his district by adding part of Galveston which is heavily minority (black). He is running ads for the first time in memory showing himself heavily working for Bush on national affairs. He is running on being Bush's butt-boy.
Your statesman link is a noshow. They are already doing damage control.
he got some bad news this week.
To quote Nelson, from the Simpsons:
"Haaah hah!"
I had a case in which one party filed a motion to squash the subpoena. Lots of laughs in chambers when that one was brought up. The update does not, IMHO, change the analysis of Earle's investigation that Kos gave. Delay is just involved in so much corruption Kos got it mixed up.
Anonymous, nah, assassination is too good for georgie.
I want him exiled to some remote island, Elba II and he can soend the rest of his life clearing brush, buliding huts, and chasing the wildlife with his little bow and rubber-tipped arrows (because they wouldn't dare give him real ones. He might hurt himself.)
*I shot an arrow into the air. It fell to earth, I know not wh.....OWWWWWWWWW!*
This is a cool (free) app that hooks you up with gov't email addresses (house, senate, WH) and latest roll calls. An idea for people wanting to contact their government reps about issues that are on their minds. You can email a bunch of them at once. Here.
BUSH: KERRY SUFFERS FROM ELECTION AMNESIA. (counters 'brain dead' comment) Kerry needs to counter by calling Bush a psychopath.
"THEY SHALL NOT PASS"
Incog, care to make it interesting?
Call it karma, call it judgement day, call it the laws of physics, call it chickens coming home to roost.
Whatever you call it, it's more than wishful thinking at this point. He's fucked.
I'm not certain but my guess is the Repugs aren't going to bail his ass out either.
OT: I spotted a Christians for Kerry bumper sticker earlier today. Looks like the fundie support is whithering.
pie,
exile would only be fitting if he were to share the island with a shipload of marooned and starving schoolboys, and he was tagged with the name "Piggy." Let's see how far he could get then.
go to johnkerry.com.
MAKE CALLS!
stop blogviating.
You can call from anywhere on weekend minutes to battleground states. it is very cool. You call Kerry enthusiasts to recruit them for local canvasses tomorrow.
DO some work.
go to johnkerry.com.
MAKE CALLS!
stop blogviating.
You can call from anywhere on weekend minutes to battleground states. it is very cool. You call Kerry enthusiasts to recruit them for local canvasses tomorrow.
DO some work.
I saw several Veterans for Kerry stickers in San Antonio yesterday, plus lots of "regular" Kerry Edwards stickers.
Snow - I'm so glad you saw that because it only became apparent to me last week, but Bush's fundie base has been eroding for some time. In polls, he is down 22% with white fundies over 2000.
Look, Bush is fucked. He is totally fucked. The Democrats are voting in record numbers, a good percentage of Bush's former base is voting Democratic this time - there is no way in hell the fucker can win this election.
make calls. How about you all sign up and do one set of five--that's what they send you at a time--and that is the price of admission to Atrios every day till election day?????
peterboy, a lot of us are already calling for MoveOn Pac. And have been for at least two weeks.
slightly OT. okay, hell, very OT:
mrs. jeebs and I voted this morning. Our old county courthouse was jam-PACKED and workers said it had been like that all week.
I was happily surprised: we were given a choice of either touchscreen or paper. I chose paper, mrs. j took touchscreen. From what I could tell, more people were choosing touchscreen.
I'm not certain but my guess is the Repugs aren't going to bail his ass out either.
jeebs
Agreed. Delay is going to find out his best friends in the Republican party are Slim and None - and Slim's out of town.
Will he face actual criminal charges or censure? Uncertain, but the guy who once proclaimed himself to be the federal government is going to be a pretty lonely, toothless old has-been in DC.
DeLay was reportedly bragging that he'd "killed" the deposition with his Motion to Quash (lawyers never do anything related to vegetables). Just as, I assumed, he claimed the Ethics Committee had "exonerated" him.
I knew the Motion to Quash the deposition would come. It's a delay (no pun), nothing more. My guess is, DeLay has no excuse not to testify, though it may be postponed until after the election.
But he certainly can't run from Earle and a grand jury. Assuming he will be re-elected (not, at this point, the certainty it should be for DeLay, which is another story in its own right), Earle may yet remove him from office.
The really interesting thing is that, as Kos says, DeLay is becoming "radioactive." And he refuses to acknowledge it!
heh-heh-heh....
Newsmax reporting that OBL has been "located"...
How many days until Nov 2nd...hmm..timing is everything
http://newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/10/23/
113806.shtml
Sucker Eskew Finds the "Internets"
The GOP has finally found a way to bridge the gap between the preznut and the internets in the last days of the campaign. Sucker Eskew, not to be confused with Sucker Carlson over at CNN, now has a blog on which all God-fearing Amurikans should voice their opinions. Just remember, Carlson is the one with bowtie who likes to argue with comedians and Eskew is the one who looks like the preacher's son caught with a key in the hotel room door.
When you think of Sucker Eskew - think, Message Pimp.
This early voting stuff really cheers me.
If that's going on where Repubs hope to challenge voters on 11/2, then they are screwed.
oh the joys of an-out-of-control run-on sentence:
"Bin Laden is living in South Waziristan in the Baluchistan Mountains of the Baluchistan Region, Lehman told the San Bernadino Sun, after delivering a keynote speech on terrorism at Pitzer College in Claremont, Calif."
why didn't they just handcuff him after he delivered the keynote speech...?
Newsmax reporting that OBL has been "located"...
Yeah, we "located" him in Tora Bora, too.....
"Bin Laden is living in South Waziristan in the Baluchistan Mountains of the Baluchistan Region, Lehman told the San Bernadino Sun, after delivering a keynote speech on terrorism at Pitzer College in Claremont, Calif."
can somebody make Dubya say this during a campaign stump speech? he's sure to mess this one up real good and say that OBL is living in Claremonth California
Robert - Heh - Delay is truly toxic now. One of the reasons the Dallas Morning News gave for endorsing Martin Frost over Pete Sessions was Sessions' attachment to Delay.
And remind me never to do anything wrong in Travis County.
Bin Laden is living in South Waziristan in the Baluchistan Mountains of the Baluchistan Region, Lehman told the San Bernadino Sun, after delivering a keynote speech on terrorism at Pitzer College in Claremont, Calif."
Newsmax needs to send its reporters to writing class.
Or maybe Comedy Central?
Move On...that's good, too.
Robert - Heh - Delay is truly toxic now. One of the reasons the Dallas Morning News gave for endorsing Martin Frost over Pete Sessions was Sessions' attachment to Delay.
Wow. The DMN? Really?
DeLay is toxic....
Kos has corrected his story:
Update: Okay, I screwed up in the original version of this story. DeLay wasn't called to testify by Earle, but in a seperate civil lawsuit regarding the Texas redistricting.
That testimony will not go forward on Monday. DeLay's lawyers have moved to squash the subpoena, and the issue will be litigated before a final determination is made whether DeLay will be forced to testify or not.
OT:
Anyone know anything about this?
BTW, the civil suit regards DeLay's involvement in getting DHS and DPS involved in rounding up renegade state legislators who went to Arkansas (the plaintiff) or elsewhere to bolix the spcial session on redistricting.
No way he avoids that deposition forever. If Clinton had to testify, DeLay has no protection.
I hope Delay chokes on his own bile.
I think all the chickens are coming home to roost. About damned time too.
(2004-10-23) -- Oscar-winner Michael Moore attracted 8,500 cheering fans last night to a lecture about documentary film technique at Penn State University. Most of Mr. Moore's $30,000 speaking fee came from the university's student activity fund, which cannot be used for partisan political causes.
"As we understand it, the speech was filled with shop-talk and technical jargon about filmmaking, since Mr. Moore is a prominent filmmaker," said an unnamed spokesman for the university. "Penn State would never use $23,000 in student funds for an anti-Bush hate rally, for example. We're delighted to see that so many of today's college students are interested in camera angles, panning techniques and the other arcane subjects."
Meanwhile, halfway across campus, nationally-syndicated talkshow host Mike Gallagher held a "bitterly partisan rally" in a packed auditorium. Sources said Mr. Gallagher is so filled with hatred of Democrat presidential candidate John Forbes Kerry that he actually charged no fee for his campus visit.
"What's worse," said an unnamed spokesman for Young American Democrats Against Hatred (YADAH), "Is that Gallagher showed the film 'Stolen Honor' which impugns the character and record of Sen. Kerry using merely first-hand accounts of American prisoners of war who claim their imprisonment was extended by Mr. Kerry's 1971 'atrocities' testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. It's just another example of right-wing kook politics."
Mr. Gallagher also led his listeners to contribute $62,200 to send care packages to U.S. troops in Iraq, "a vitriolic partisan move clearly designed to benefit Bush," said the YADAH source.
"Anyone know anything about this?"Shaw Kenawe
Yes, this info appears to be directly from the Barnes Report, an anti-semitic web site that specializes in disinformation.
toss that in the trash
Wouldn't it be ironic if the re-districting that delay and his minions forced through caused his defeat? They thought he has such a safe seat that they could afford to weaken his district a little- now he's fighting for his life.
HAAAAA- haaa.
Robert - Yes, the Dallas paper. Considering that it also endorsed Bush and Jeb Hensarling, who is into Delay for $20,000, I was surprised as hell. It is inconsistent, to say the least.
Shaw Kenawe - Fuck. I really almost wish you hadn't linked to that article. Goddamn it if Bush does that, we are all dead.
Shaw--
If they are that stupid, it may be their "Madrid." Rather than rally the country, it may backfire on 'em as Iran decides to attack Iraq.
Which means us, of course. Suddenly Iraq goes from a "civil" matter against an insurgency to full-scale international war. And we have to fight on two fronts. Brilliant strategy, no?
For that reason alone, I don't believe it. I think the military would blow a gasket and go to the press decrying the plan as one that simply makes all of Iraq one giant suicide mission. Because we can't handle what we've got, and then we piss off Iran, which has a huge border with Iraq? And Bush thinks that's a shoo-in winner for him?
He could be that stupid. But I don't think a lot of people in the Pentagon would be.
An unnamed source said Anonymous is full of shit.
I'm glad that web site got debunked fast. That kind of shit keeps me awake at night.
I don't think Bush is going to nuke Iran nor do I think that Rove would think that was such a good idea right now. I hope, anyway, because that would be it - WWIII, no holds barred.
Tena--
The Dallas Morning News used to be the most right-wing paper in Texas.
And that's saying something.....
I know it's moderated some, but still, they didn't pick up Molly when another Texas paper folded up under her. It was Fort Worth who took her.
Tells you all you need to know about the DMN. Couldn't even handle Molly as an op-ed columnist.
O.T. Hubble Porn
Kerry/Edwards In A LANDSLIDE!!
Hell, it was the Dallas Times Herald that folded.
But DMN wouldn't touch Ms. Ivins.
Memory...it's the second thing to go.....
I'm glad that web site got debunked fast.
just working for freedom...
Now I gotta eat lunch...
make calls. How about you all sign up and do one set of five--that's what they send you at a time--and that is the price of admission to Atrios every day till election day?????
peterboy
Jeepers H. Christmas, calm down. I've been making so damned many calls for Kerry I've worn out my battery. It's a safe bet that 90% or more of the folks here are doing a lot of political action work. But thanks for your enthusiasm.
mwah (-;
That Eskew blog is a lot of fun.
yup, jennifer, nuttin better than to be the Christian Soldier on a right wing blog to show them how pitiful they really are
I am still playing around there cuz it's so much fun to whack a few fundies
I know there are Texans here, so PLEASE tell me how that nasty monster DeLay keeps getting elected. I asked my niece who recently moved ther the same question and all she coul say is that he passes himself as a deeply religious Christian. HAHAAHAH HAAHA.
Jennifer,
yup it's kind of like shooting monkeys in a barrel...
I'm still trying to figure out "why" Rove would let Tucker do something this Stupid - Bad Dog Karl....Bad Dog
Ok, put up the link to Eskew's blog again and let the rest of us have some fun, too.
OT
just listening to the keyes/obama debate for a little contrasting opinion. prettty funny actually - you can vote for a rational intelligent person or a bizzarre creature of intolerance
funniest freud moment for me was when keyes referred to "the Lord Ourself"
bigvic - shit, how do I know how Delay gets elected - I know nothing about Sugarland. All I know is that starting with the Repug massacre of 1984, anyone who has an "R" by his name has been pretty much guaranteed a win in Texas. With some outstanding exceptions. We used to be a solidly Democratic state. God I hate racists - they just fucked up everything.
Robert - I miss the Times Herald so much. I loved that paper.
Re: The Raw Story report I linked to:
It scared the crap out of me too, but it sounded so rat-shit crazy I sorta believed it.
Glad it was debunked, too.
But this is for real
We used to be a solidly Democratic state. God I hate racists - they just fucked up everything.
Tena: You hit the nail on the head, I think. All the other shit about Christian piety is obiously B.S.
" there is no way in hell the fucker (Bush) can win this election."
Tena, yeah agreed.
But as Stalin said it comes down to who counts the votes. The Republicans can 'jeb' the results their way at least 2 or 3 percent and in Diebold precincts possibly more (though I really, really hope I'm way off here).
Hi all -- In watching the electorl map/polling the last few weeks, I hve generally thought (as many have suggested) that if Kerry wins OH and PA, he'd be a sure bet. Obviously that may still be true, but there seems to be an undercurrent now that if Bush takes Florida (and who among us doesn't think that state is fixed for Bush), he may have enough strength in WI and IA, and maybe MN, to win w/o Ohio.
I live in MN, am doing what I can, and feel MN will, when push comes to shove, go Kerry's way. But this WI-IA possibility for Bush has me a bit worried. If Kerry needs PA, OH, AND FL to win, it could be a long night.
Thoughts?
sgo - thanks, but I think I'm blind now after reading posts against that damned dark blue background. Jeebus.
KOS HAS UPDATED:
Update: Okay, I screwed up in the original version of this story. DeLay wasn't called to testify by Earle, but in a seperate civil lawsuit regarding the Texas redistricting.
That testimony will not go forward on Monday. DeLay's lawyers have moved to squash the subpoena, and the issue will be litigated before a final determination is made whether DeLay will be forced to testify or not.
Tony B.
Hitchens in The Nation on why he'd vote for Bush again (sad, pathetic Hitchens: he's more against us than for Bush, ex-leftists who turned to the dark side are always the worst, he knows he's wrong in his support for Bush but can't back down cause of fucking pride)
but...
go read Wilcott view on Hitchens' view, a good read
http://jameswolcott.com
OMG, Tucker E's blog is SO embarrassing. I just about peed myself when I read about his Dyno-Mite team in Ohio. Hooo, what a chump.
OT Blatant plug:
Tena, if you were using Opera, you could make any webpage look the way you want it to look with the click of a button.
No, I don't work for Opera, I just love their browser. 
snick-snack - you know what? I'm fucking sick and tired of that quote from Stalin and I'm just sick and tired of hearing "well, he may not win but he will steal it."
I don't think so. I don't think Bush has a chance in hell.
Its not necessary to give a chance in hell.
just me - looks interesting and I might try it. Thanks.
I'm getting ready to switch to DSL. I want to get that done before I do anything else.
leo - no, when one is talking about Bush and about hell, it's a pretty sure thing.
I just saw the wolves commercial on the
TV for the first time. Oh My God, It's
event funnier on the Big Screen.
Them puppies sure are cute, one of my cat's (Jack, 22lbs, and a bit skitzo at times) is way scarier than
that commercial.
If they replaced all the Pharma adds
with puppies, my life would be complete.
Kerry/Edwards In A LANDSLIDE!!
Im getting ready to switch to dsl
The only way the Republicans can steal the election is if it is very very close in one or two crucial states, and they catch the Democrats off-guard.
The first is possible but not too likely. The second ain't gonna happen this time.
Peterboy -
Thanks for the reminder. While I have a feeling virtually every regular here is and has been working hard on calling and canvassing and suchlike (I'm working for the AZ Dem Party, doing phone banking from home through a very cool online system), your reminder nonetheless may make some lurkers -- or other visitors who might perhaps not yet be connected in activist circles -- realize there are things they can easily do to help (from home, even), and to ease whatever sense of nail-biting tension they may be feeling.
I had to actively seek out something I could do as a disabled person (and from what I read here, there seem to be a good number of other disabled folks who post here), and was finally able to find my niche in late summer. OTOH, there may still be people who don't yet realize there are effective things they can do without leaving their homes, and your suggestion is a good thing.
Tena, If you are going from dial-up to DSL, be warned that you will never be able to tolerate dial-up again. 
I honestly don't think Bu$h can even steal this one. Seems everyone but ol' Whistle Ass himself knows it. Since the debates, the real Kerry is out there for all to see. Kerry is such an appealing contrast to Bu$h. B/C look increasingly deranged.
Tena, If you look at whats happening in chechnya, or in indonesia, how long is it before it does something really spectacular again.
If ya'll have the option between broadband or DSL, why would you choose DSL? The price is about the same (within ten dollars/month), and broadband downloads about twice as fast.
Hitchens in The Nation on why he'd vote for Bush again
What do they see in him? I remember back when I subscribed reading his crap and thinking, is it the accent? The guy has some glitter in his style, or had some, rather. But when you get right down to it he's a self-centered pill. The kind of person who always talks up at meetings, striking poses, wowing the gullible. In the end these super-leftists turn con.
>Tena, If you are going from dial-up to DSL, be warned that you will never be able to tolerate dial-up again.<
And if you go from DSL to Cable modem you won't be able to tolerate DSL again.
Hitchens in the hunt for another triple coup of wrongheaded policies.
leo - what it this "it" of which you speak. Your cryptic comments are way too cryptic.
Kate,
Good point. The thing I like best about the "Calls For Kerry" operation is how easy it is to work from home, and since I'm on EST, I can call swing states late at night.
Tena -
I switched from DSL to broadband a few months ago and find that broadband really is superior... if you have a bit more time to do the research, it would be well worth it!
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I like best about the calls for kerry operation is how easy it is against the congressional resolution last fall giving president bush authority to wage war in iraq.
Chauncy - why is cable better?
Yah, the thing that has held me back from switching is that DSL isn't available where I go in the summer, so I know going back to dial-up for 4 months is going to be agonizing.
Hitchens is the reason why there's never any olives left at the bar
if only all those good positions in the military during vietnam hadn't been taken by the poor and minorities, maybe tom delay wouldn't have ended up living a life of crime.
chris/tx,
I have broadband and wireless remote on my laptop and I love it. I can open 10 different windows instantly and be online nearly anywhere.
"I don't think so. I don't think Bush has a chance in hell."
I like the sentiment.
DeLay's going down. Boo Fucking Hoo. Cry me a river, Tommy-boy.
I'm generally pretty nonviolent, but for some reason, when I think of the Turd from Sugarland, I get this fantasy of that scene in A Clockwork Orange, where Alex's former mates are now cops, and they drag him out to that trough full of water and beat him and nearly drown him -- only in my fantasy, Alex is replaced by DeLay, and the vat is full of pesticide...
Aaahhhh, a bit o' th' ol' ultraviolence. Almost as soothing as me ol' Ludwig Van!
DSL is available from 128kB/s up to 1MB/s download speed. Depends on where you are.
Cable is fast as long as the traffic on the loop you are on is low. At peak times on a busy cable system the download speed can go down to dial-up speeds.
Either cable or DSL is far better than dial-up, though.
Tena, broadband is the way to go, and is probably cheaper than DSL if you'd be adding a second phone line.
It's definitely faster, too.
Schroeder is the way to go, and is probably cheaper than dsl if youd be adding a second phone line.
Um, DSL IS broadband, as is cable.
Um, DSL IS broadband, as is cable.
Cable is fast as long as the traffic on the loop you are on is low. At peak times on a busy cable system the download speed can go down to dial-up speeds.
I've heard this is not true anymore, if it ever was. The DSL companies actually had to pull their ads which said that traffic slows down cable. It's just not so.
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I have high speed internet by cable (5,1 in download) and it's brilliant. I have the phone by internet as well (the modem does both) and it's excellent as well. DSL sucks if you ever try interent by cable
thanks everyone - I'll look into it. I already have one phone line dedicated to the computer. But I love faster.
Stonefree,
Heh!
Tena
I work at home and for 5 years I had to download huge files all day with DSL. I had to move a year ago and I was forced to switch to cable because DSL wasn't available. I couldn't believe the difference. I had no idea, or I would have switched sooner.
One of the big problems with DSL is the noise on the line that you have to filter out for everything else that is on that line.
Anyway, I'm not an expert but just from everyday practical experience.
Ack, dial up. DSL is broadband, yes.
ok why does it say 0 comments?
Stone Free - Can I help hold his head under?
Tean,your best bet is to ask around and see what others are using in your area, and what they think of it. What's available varies depending on where you are and how much you want to pay.
Anyway, Im not going to go mental on tv.
Cable might be faster but I'm ususally able to get on line just about all the time. The cable's always going out around here. And the company changes hands a lot more than the phone does.
ok now it dosen't...never mind:}
Cable might be faster but im ususally able to tolerate dialup again.
Also, DSL shares the same line as your phone, so no need for a separate line.
We dumped our second line when we got DSL.
Hitchens is the reason why there's never any olives left at the bar
Tangerine
Ah, c'mon, Tangerine! A guy's gotta eat!
bigvic - Agreed on broadband. No way I could ever do without it. My wife's company pays for it so she can work at home when needed. She can open excel/word/powerpoint files from her company server in seconds. The fact I like the most is that it is always on.
Re your question earlier about why DeLay keeps getting reelected - I occasionally drive through his Sugarland district, it is lily white with average home cost at about $300k. More church's, country clubs, and man made lakes than you can count. They all act like they are being robbed because they have to contribute to Houston's sale tax even though 90% of them work in Houston proper. DeLay has flamed that fire for years, the "us against them" mantra. He has fought giving Houston the transit money to build more efficient systems like rail.
At peak times on a busy cable system the download speed can go down to dial-up speeds.
That's a myth, at peak time ANY system slows down. But cable never slows to the dial up speed. I work at a cable company ( i'm not selling anything! i hate the conglomerate who bought us a few years ago -we had a 1 year lock-out in 2002-03), but our product is damn good for internet and phone (brand new but so fare working great, i'm totally free of phone companies now). We even have extreme speed at 6,5 now. Cable internet is the best right now.
They all act like they are being robbed because they have reason to be called the liberals accept responsibility for killers program, or lark, for short.
Cable plus wireless lan is the perfect combination.
Oh, yeah.
Down with the Bugkiller
Tena, and others, Here's a link to the DSLReports DSL faq.
Knowledge is power.
So chica toxica is on the employer and less in these terrorizing raids, pelosi said.
Cable plus wireless lan is the perfect combination.
Exactly what we have. Did you read the article in Time about Spokane, WA providing a wireless network in a big section of the city?
Wouldn't that be nice?
CNN-People program is on Nader (playing now).
You know he won't be on the Ohio ballot (court rulled yesterday) so Ohio will be Kerry's!
LOL I have more advice than I know to do with! Thank you thank you. I will look into everything that is available and talk to people.
Really - thanks.
I should have known that Sugarland was one of those "Jaysus wants you to be rich" communities. Didn't Delay get all up in the Houston mass transit situation and fight against it?
>Tena, and others, Here's a link to the DSLReports DSL faq.<
I used to test my DSL there and the graph had cute little sayings depending on the speed that you tested at. When I got Cable I went back and tested it and it flew by the DSL levels I had before and it just said ...Dude! Pretty funny.
Austin has been starting to provide free wireless. One of the parks downtown has a bunch of outdoor wireless access points.
More places (including my favorite bar) are offering free wireless internet.
The best part, I can sit out on my back deck, with a beer, and internet access.
just me - thank you so much - I bookmarked that page and I'll definitely read it all before I do anything.
wireless is my next step. First things first - get off this dial up modem. I'm beginning to hate it with some passion.
Bush will be handing out pardons soon. Don't get your hopes up too high yet.
One last thing about moving to broadband.
You really should get a route/firewall.
Since the connection is always on, you are subject to all sorts of malicious targeting.
Most firewall providers (Linksys, Netgear, D-Link, et al) provide integrated firewall, wireless, and wired router capabilities.
All of them are easy to setup. I personally recommend Linksys. But that is just me.
Tena - Yes, DeLay fought against Houston getting about two billion in mass transit funds from the appropriations committee to alleviate the massive congestion problem we now face.
An aside - Sugarland is built largely on land that was part of a massive Pecan tree orchard covering thousands of acres. It is actually quite beautiful with all the man made lakes, the people that live their is the problem. Probably more yuppie fundies per square mile than almost anywhere in the US.
chris/tx,
yuppie fundies
[shudder]
Most DSL routers have a NAT router-firewall built in. Also Window XP SP2 has a firewall, if you've installed that.
hey,
just got back online, and went to Tucker (what is it with Republicans naming their kids "Tucker"?) Eskew's blog.
My favorite quote (and I apologize if someone upthread already addressed it):
"I like the wolves ad - it's not just a good spot for those who do 'get it' - it has chatter-appeal. Buzz is one way to get more bang for your (highly fragmented) advertising buck."
And "buzzkill" is what Kerry's eagle ad response is.
P.S. Liz Phair wants her reputation back, asshat (tho she may have squandered that with her last album).
Exactly what we have. Did you read the article in Time about Spokane, WA providing a wireless network in a big section of the city?
That's what they are proposing here in Louisville, too. It's a great idea. It's already fairly easy to take the wireless laptop into most coffee shops and in a fair number of locations around town and pick up a good signal. I love it.
Most DSL routers have a NAT router-firewall built in
My router supposedly does, but I run a firewall program anyway, just to make sure.
NYMary - I join your shudder. Yuppie fundies seem to all subscribe to the Success through Jaysus ministry that tells them that it's ok to be rich and to be ruthless about it because that's what Jaysus wants for them. Truly creepy fucked up shit.
David (Austin Tx), we lovee Linksys but not its outsourced representatives. I've had to call them on two separate occasions because of a problem I had when the power went out. Customer service training is definitely not being given, and they were not always easy to understand. I could have dealt with the latter if they hadn't been so impatient.
Tena - hee. see how helpful we are?
BTW, Jon Stewart is on 60 minutes tomorrow night. The interview was taped pre-crossfire, but still he's going to rip into the media. should be interesting.
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NYMary,
I hear ya. Screw the poor, the weak and defenceless, all in the name of our Lard!
watertiger -
what's the deal with Liz Phair's reputation and getting it back? Was she a bush supporter or something?
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NYMary - Re yuppie fundies - My wife worked with a girl that was head of the young single adults of one of Houston's two leading Baptist churchs. At lunch with other coworkers, the subject of Bush/Kerry came up and the girl was just appalled at what some where saying about Bush. She pulled my wife aside after lunch and said she had it from high sources in the Bush Administration that Bush had a secret plan after he is re(s)elected to fix Iraq and that everyone just needed to keep the faith. Apparently one of Bush's spokesmen came and spoke at their church's young adult group, and told them not to believe what they were hearing on the news about Iraq.
It was all my wife could do not to burst out laughing. The girl has now quit because she has heard the calling of the Lord for her to come and work at the church full time. I just want to shake her everytime I see her. And to think their is thousands more just like her...
There was a time when some Linksys router/firewalls had a problem with some on-line games, but that's been resolved with new software. Netgear is good, too.
Could we get any more off-topic than talking about computer equipment on a political blog?
Jon Stewart is God!
BTW, Watertiger -- I must have missed
something....wassup with the Liz Phair
reference?
pie,
I, fortunately, have never had to deal with their Customer Support.
I imagine they are all that way, anymore.
But, my box has never given me any probs.
Man, reading about TX fundies makes me wonder what the HELL kind of Kool Aid is they'all servin' up in the churches there.
ctober 20, 2004
Lebanonwire
A Bush pre-election strike on Iran 'imminent'
White House insider report "October Surprise" imminent
By Wayne Madsen
According to White House and Washington Beltway insiders, the Bush administration, worried that it could lose the presidential election to Senator John F. Kerry, has initiated plans to launch a military strike on Iran's top Islamic leadership, its nuclear reactor at Bushehr on the Persian Gulf, and key nuclear targets throughout the country, including the main underground research site at Natanz in central Iran and another in Isfahan. Targets of the planned U.S. attack reportedly include mosques in Tehran, Qom, and Isfahan known by the U.S. to headquarter Iran's top mullahs.
The Iran attack plan was reportedly drawn up after internal polling indicated that if the Bush administration launched a so-called anti-terrorist attack on Iran some two weeks before the election, Bush would be assured of a landslide win against Kerry. Reports of a pre-emptive strike on Iran come amid concerns by a number of political observers that the Bush administration would concoct an "October Surprise" to influence the outcome of the presidential election.
According to White House sources, the USS John F. Kennedy was deployed to the Arabian Sea to coordinate the attack on Iran. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld discussed the Kennedy's role in the planned attack on Iran when he visited the ship in the Arabian Sea on October 9. Rumsfeld and defense ministers of U.S. coalition partners, including those of Albania, Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Georgia, Hungary, Iraq, Latvia, Lithuania, Macedonia, Mongolia, Poland, Qatar, Romania, and Ukraine briefly discussed a very "top level" view of potential dual-track military operations in Iran and Iraq in a special "war room" set up on board the aircraft carrier.
America's primary ally in Iraq, the United Kingdom, did not attend the planning session because it reportedly disagrees with a military strike on Iran. London also suspects the U.S. wants to move British troops from Basra in southern Iraq to the Baghdad area to help put down an expected surge in Sh'ia violence in Sadr City and other Sh'ia areas in central Iraq when the U.S. attacks Iran as well as clear the way for a U.S. military strike across the Iraqi-Iranian border aimed at securing the huge Iranian oil installations in Abadan. U.S. allies South Korea, Australia, Kuwait, Jordan, Italy, Netherlands, and Japan were also left out of the USS John F. Kennedy planning discussions because of their reported opposition to any strike on Iran.
In addition, Israel has been supplied by the United States with 500 "bunker buster" bombs. According to White House sources, the Israeli Air Force will attack Iran's nuclear facility at Bushehr with the U.S. bunker busters.The joint U.S.-Israeli pre-emptive military move against Iran reportedly was crafted by the same neo-con
As a cultural catholic, I missed the whole "I'm rich 'cause Jesus wants me to be" thing, mercifully. I completely don't get it. Of course, catholics aren't big on reading the Bible or talking about Jesus, but the financial thing confuses me particularly.
If Kerry has to show a plan to solve Iraq before he gets elected, why are we supposed to "keep the faith" for Bush?
Even here in the Austin suburbs we run into our fair share of yuppie fundies.
Last night had dinner at an Italian restaurant, and the number of people looking with disdain at the few people drinking was rather amusing, to say the least.
This restaurant was in a part of town I don't normally eat in.
...she had it from high sources in the Bush Administration that Bush had a secret plan after he is re(s)elected to fix Iraq and that everyone just needed to keep the faith.
He's running for president and being challenged every day about Iraq, yet his plan is a secret.
Good grief. It's probably a secret because it has the word *DRAFT* in it.
In addition, Israel has been supplied by the United States with 500 "bunker buster" bombs.
This much has been reported, though buried, in the press widely.
This Iran shit is a joke, right?
Cause if we really do attack, welcome
to the Late Sixties, part deux.
bigvic - oh, it gets worse. You are probably just forgetting that 3 Texas Assembly of God members who were also mothers killed their children because they thought it would bring Jaysus back quicker.
Hitchens in The Nation on why he'd vote for Bush again (sad, pathetic Hitchens: he's more against us than for Bush, ex-leftists who turned to the dark side are always the worst, he knows he's wrong in his support for Bush but can't back down cause of fucking pride)
but...
go read Wilcott view on Hitchens' view, a good read
http://jameswolcott.com
Tangerine
Hitchens and Bush are textbook examples of what happens to a person's brain when they drink too much.
If this were a compassionate society, neither of these men would be allowed within 20 feet of a live mic, and we would try to spare them the public humiliation each brings upon himself when they try to speak.
The Iran stuff is a joke, steve. Well, not a jok, really, but not from a good source. It's debunked upthread by sgo @ 4:20.
The nerve of Bush to use an SRV song on their campaign stops. Perhaps Backslider can contact the estate about this?
Tena,
Indeed I did forget they were from TX. Jeepers H. Christmas. And of course the angry Xtian mobs wanted them executed for their crimes against the Lard! Oy!
Tena -
Another cool thing about cable connection is that your cable company, like ours, may offer a deep discount on cable tee vee if you get Internet connection with them. Even though we only have the basic package, we're still paying a good bit less.
In regard to cable sometimes being slow -- I initially thought so, too -- until Mr. Kate said, it's your computer, honey! So bless his heart, he went on line, shopped for a brand new zoom zoom fast computer with extra memory, and I can't believe the difference. I can have open as many windows as I like, and check my mail, and play Internet radio all at the same time. And downloads? If I blink, I practically miss them happening, they're so fast. This is the first time I've had one of the faster computer models -- we're very frugal -- but in my case, it's because of political activism that I agreed to go current, don't need to be putting in way more time to accomplish the same tasks.
Just my take.
I hope, I think, the Iran stuff is not true. But damn, it's something that Israel has wanted to do for a while, they've done it before, and the neocons are just crazy enough to think that bombing Iran's nuclear facilities is a good thing.
It's gonna be a long 10 days.
It's gonna be a long 10 days.
When you consider that the last four years have seemed like ten, you are so right.
Amen, pie! It took Bu$hit just 4 short years to do this much damage? If there really is a just and merciful God out there, I hope she has mercy on us. If not, we'll take care of it ourselves.
pie - I think the "secret" is that if Bush is re(s)elected, he is going to bomb Fallujah, etc back to the stone age. See, no more American deaths, but a whole lot of innocent Iraqi's deaths.
I got an email from an ex coworker that is now in Iraq for Halliburton working at one of our largest bases outside of Baghdad. She said every night her and her new boyfriend go out to the perimeter of the base and watch the bombers take off. Other words, we are still bombing the shit out of them. Where is that on the news? We see an occasional bombing, but she mentioned it is *every* night, and she has been there about 2.5 months. She accidentally attached an internal memo (instead of a picture she was trying to send). It talked about a Halliburton convoy that got shot up when the military escort just left them when the shit got bad. The writer, some main guy for Halliburton in Iraq was pissed and letting the military know it.
NYmary --- thanks. My paranoia level
is at eleven until Kerry wins.
I should have known that Sugarland was one of those "Jaysus wants you to be rich" communities.
For those of you not familiar with the lingo, this is called the "prosperity Gospel," and mainstream Christians call it a heresy.
If I have my American history details straight, it first made its ugly emergence on this continent early on, with the Calvinist streak in Massachusetts. Funny that there's this "prosperity Gospel" slur on that locale now (the "Taxachusetts" crap).
Fred Barnes and Morton Kondracke just
said how effective the puppies ad is.
They are truly clueless.b
At services today the bat mitzvah girl's little speech included something about how with God's help we will get through these bad times and triumph over the people who caused 9/11. Huh?? seemed to be the main reaction by the congregation. I don't know her parents' political opinions but now I can guess.
Once again, sorry for the killer b.
I gotta get my keyboard fixed.
FBI Probes Leads on Election Terror Plot
FBI investigators have made new arrests and developed leads that reinforce concerns that terrorists plan to strike around the presidential election, officials said Saturday, even though the CIA has discredited a person who told its agents of such a plot involving al-Qaida.
A senior FBI official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said some of the leads were culled from interviews with thousands of individuals that agents have conducted in the Muslim community.
The official would not be more specific, but said the FBI continues to have misgivings about possible al-Qaida intentions to launch an attack with the goal of affecting the elections.
Several people have been taken into custody recently on charges not related to terrorism, but officials are investigating whether they may have been involved in terror activities, said another law enforcement official, speaking on condition of anonymity.
As for the person who warned the CIA, at least some of that individual's reporting no longer is seen as credible, said a U.S. intelligence official, speaking on condition of anonymity. The official stressed, however, that a number of other sources point to terrorist activity around the election season.
The official also said no concrete plot has been discovered so far with specific mention of time, place, method or identity of would-be attackers.
Lovely, more fear-mongering.
OT REQUEST:
U.S. Farm Report, which I saw on the Rural TV station on DTV, said that none of the debates mentioned agriculture. I recall otherwise; I recall Kerry making some statements about the importance of agriculture.
If anyone has a link to such statements during the debates, please write to USFR and correct their (probably anti-Kerry) reporting, or post the material here, and I'll schlep it around.
RTV is definitely R TV. But they have great locomotive & train videos, and lots of horse stuff, which I like.
Btw, 'Bush's Brain'...saw part of it this weekend, blah. Like an off-station tv special, which means condescending, and boring, which means not hip.
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jenny,
ah, i was just reading into Tucker's snarky "guyville" comment. And I wasn't too thrilled with Phair's attempt at mainstream pop, but that's just me. I liked the old "alt-indie" Phair better.
Since you're talking cable modems, I have one, and it's great, except that it was better when it was not owned by Comcast, who have made a special effort to destroy educational tv broadcasting.
If a better option appears, I would probably switch. Still, cable modem is life on the internets. More blood! More blood!
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Very off topic.
Fiber to home is coming from Verizion.
Up to 30 Mbit/second down / 5 Mbit/second up.
$50/month.
Cable is up to 5 Mbit/second down / 0.8 Mbit/second up.
Six times faster.
Fred Barnes and Morton Kondracke just said how effective the puppies ad is.
Let 'em all think that. IMHO, the only people who will be affected by this ad in any way remotely related to its intent will be the Repub base.
The rest of America can sit back and admire those beautiful, majestic wolves, and snicker at the obvious influence of Reagan's far superior "Bear" ad.
And then we all go out and vote.
Watertiger -- I thought Eskew's guyville
remark was kind of ....I dunno, trying
too hard to be, er, hep, or something. Weird.
FBI Probes Leads on Election Terror Plot
No wonder those dumbasses in the GOP think their wolf/puppy ad is so great. They cry WOLF! about Terra every time they tank. Which is often.
watertiger -
gotcha. i'm not thrilled with her pop stuff either. can't understand why she's lauded by the 20 somethings. oh, they're kinda shallow these days, i guess. not to disparage the youth but her music sounds like stuff their mothers would like...
btw. did anyone see bill maher last night. the ex-cia chief woolsey is such an evil dick.
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shawk - I think it is called T-5, or something like that. My brother is a master electrician and said they are installing it in most new homes.
Jenny:
I once got an annonymous email at work
that said "Liz Phair is hot! Like MEg
Ryan with a bigger shnozz!"
No kidding.
steve -
that's funny. why the hell was it anonymous?
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just me - damn it, now my paranoia meter is rising. what the fuck kind of deal does Dubya have with Osama bin Laden, anyway?
I mean how bloody fucking convenient. Bush is losing, so...
Thou needest get thee to DU for the latest set of Political Cartoons.
These will make your day.
Two Planes Violate Restricted Air Space Over Bush Rallies in Florida, Are Escorted to Airfields
MELBOURNE, Fla. Oct 23, 2004 — Two small private aircraft violated restricted air space Saturday over two of President Bush's campaign rallies in central Florida, authorities said.
In both incidents, fighter jets escorted the planes to nearby airfields.
"The president was never in any danger at either event," White House spokesman Trent Duffy said.
The F-15s were in the air at the time, a standard practice when the president makes an appearance. Reporters covering Bush's campaign event at Space Coast Stadium in Melbourne said the military jets drowned out Bush's words at one point. The activity in the sky repeatedly distracted the crowd from Bush's speech, but Duffy said the president continued speaking through the incident.
Heh.
Jen --
To this day I have no idea who sent it
or why.
Seriously, James Woolsey really made my skin crawl on Maher last night. He's as dangerous, evil and heartless as Cheney - I have the exact same reaction to the two of them.
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3 Texas Assembly of God members who were also mothers killed their children because they thought it would bring Jaysus back quicker.
Tena - Jesus, Mary, & Joseph! (oops, that's the Catholic in me talking) -- How creepy! And it reminds me of that very weird Mimi Rogers movie, The Rapture. Anybody see it? What was amazing about it was the ending. After the Rapture occurs the Rogers character (who killed her daughter in the desert) is offered the chance to repent of the deed so she can enter heaven and be with her daughter, but she turns it down because she is so angry at God for misleading her with the prophecies she heard in her weirdo church group.
The Iran stuff is a joke, steve. Well, not a jok, really, but not from a good source. It's debunked upthread by sgo @ 4:20.
the source is crap but I'm not going to post a link to it because I'm not going to feed the beast as one might say.
but i will send you here.
Barnes report -Disinfopedia
I've been wondering if Rockin' in the Free World has the anti-mohammedism undertones, and that's why Neil Young was temporarily rendered insane by 911.
This may also explain Alice Cooper, though I have a ditty in the back of my head:
"No more Mitchell, no more Brooks,
No more Bush's smirking looks."
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Kate -- you're so right about The Rapture
(the movie). One of the best and most
underated flicks of the 90s.
I seem to remember its directed by
the guy wrote The Player.
I sure hope pie or Tena are quiet cause they're trying to get the keys to Eshaton away from Duncan and open a new thread, or just have a dang OPEN THREAD!.
My, that sounds shrill!
Michael Tolkin's "The Rapture" was a really great low-budget film. I can still see Mimi Rogers sitting in the desert on that rock with her children...
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I wonder if the Cure still play
"Killing an Arab."
Steve -
I think The Player was directed by Altman. Great movie too.
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Steve,
I love The Player. Watched it a dozen times, I'm sure. It's one of those movies I never tire of or can't find something new to love each time I watch it.
bigvic, they're currently under attack by a Colter-wannabe on the thread below.
re: the rapture
David Duchovny has a brief full frontal
moment.
Jenny,
I read one interview that basically said she was trying to get into the "Britney/Christina" mindset. A major turnoff for her old fans. Feh!
Several people have been taken into custody recently on charges not related to terrorism, but officials are investigating whether they may have been involved in terror activities, said another law enforcement official, speaking on condition of anonymity.
In other words, Democrats trying to GOTV?
What was the Rapture about? Surely not the farkin' 2nd comming of Jeebus?
GWPDA -
Good info. I'm sick in bed today and need some entertainment. Gonna check out the Coulter wannabe thread!
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GWPDA, Get *the* pie!
Jenny --
Altman directed the player but I believe
Tolkin wrote it.
It's a great film, in any case.
David Duchovny has a brief full frontal
moment.
steve, thanks for the memories. i *heart* david duchovny in a serious way. he comes to my yoga class sometimes. {{{flutter}}}}
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Mimi Rogers, David Duchovny, in The Rapture.
Movie really freaked me out, and when the bible thumpers came to power, it was one of the first things that popped into my head.
Jenny:
Way cool about Duchovny at your yoga
class.
Feel better soon!
steve, of course you knew that altman directed it... silly me. and i didn't remember that tolkin wrote it. thanks.
What was the Rapture about? Surely not the farkin' 2nd comming of Jeebus?
bigvic
IIRC it was a grainy indie film that was a brutal indictment of the born again culture, in a very arty way. you would like it.
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steve - thanks. it's good to be sick on a day like today... i can read and comment here to my heart's desire without the guilt because i'm too spaced out to do anything else!
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Kate - I did see the Rapture and yes, it is fucking creepy. I keep going around asking: what the fuck is going on with the Assemblies of God? And no one seems bothered.
It bothers the hell out of me.
I'm bothered too, have been for a while.
The born-agains are creepy as hell.
Jenny,
Thanks, and thank the Lard no one here (HAHA HAHAHA) was pushing some fundie flick. That would be too sick for words.
Jenny from the Blog - The Player is such a great movie and people don't seem to get it. Man I love that movie. If McCabe and Mrs. Miller wasn't my favorite Altman movie, the Player would be. It was like reading Nabokov.
And here I was, thinking you were talking about the Blondie song.
what the fuck is going on with the Assemblies of God? And no one seems bothered.
*Pray* tell. This must be a really sick operation. Seriously, if anyone knows the answer to this, share it with us. Creepy doesn't begin to cover it.
bigvic - you ought to rent The Rapture sometime. It is pretty amazing.
The end just blew me away.
Fred Barnes and Morton Kondracke just said how effective the puppies ad is.
These gas-filled shitbags were saying the same kinda thing as part of the self-congratulatory circle-jerk after Chimp's final debate 'win', along with the Weakneed Standard's Billy Kristol and Shit Fume. Nobody's listening, 'cept the Kool-aid mainliners.
WTF -- are we done with the dial-up/broadband/DSL crap? I would rather read the rantings from trolls than all the inane banter about access. Sure, Eschaton readers have more important things to comment on than the insanely obvious differences between uploading/downloading specs -- this makes all the "boobie" jokes from woot seem so much more enlightening. Please people, take the banial chatter elsewhere (may I suggest Tucker Eskew?
Somewhat OT but kinda related to the Rapture, here's what I think is an amusing story:
I recently started a small side business and about a month ago, I received a phone call from an earnest-sounding young man.
"Yes?" I said.
The boy launched into his spiel: He was calling to invite me to a dinner for small-business entrepreneurs. The guest of honor was none other than George W. Bush.
My mind raced. Should I accept and pay what would undoubtedly be an exorbitant fee to have dinner with the enemy and get arrested when I disrupt the dinner by shouting all sorts of obscenities? Or do I politely decline? I chose the middle ground.
"Whoa, sonny," I said. "Do you have the wrong number!" I waited a beat, "because I think George Bush is the Anti-Christ! But thanks, anyway!" I waited for his response, but all I could hear was stammering. So I promptly hung up.
And to think that I was this close to f**king with Bush. But I gotta pay the rent, and I can't really afford the arrest record.
Tena -
ooh. McCabe & Mrs. Miller. Another of my all-time favorites. we should all get together after our new pres is sworn in and have an eschaton film fest! (i actually think it would be so funny if we all had a meet-up and wore name-tags...
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The Rapture is indeed about the fundie misinterpretation of Revelation. What's so intriguing about it is that it focuses on a woman who went so far out on the line for the sake of her "faith," that when she's offered the chance of repentance at the end, she instead basically says a giant F.U. to God. There's something sympathetic about the character, too, which in itself is creepy enough and a testament (no pun intended) to how well the film's done.
I went to see it in the theater with a friend who's a fundamentalist, but not as loony as most. She (at that time, anyway) was a Dem and worked for Dem causes. She was majorly rattled by the movie, and don't imagine that she put it on the "not to miss" list of films at her church.
(may I suggest Tucker Eskew?
Mr. Bill
Kill Bill.
I would rather read the rantings from trolls than all the inane banter about access.
Thanks to much better access I'm now able to accomplish much more *activism* and get much more information, in much less time. As I mentioned above. In that sense, I think these recommendations are helpful to folks.
Kill Bill. Anonymous
,b>BRING IT ON!!!
Heads up, everybody! It looks like Mr. Bill has placed hisself in charge of this here blog. Everybody stop your yammering! Mr. Bill is displeased!
(And The Rapture is most excellent.)
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OT -
Free Republic blogger claims there will be a "that a major newspaper will break a front-page story Monday morning that could create a serious problem for the Kerry campaign."
http://tinyurl.com/5bskz
Yeah right. Funny thread to read though, those guys are all worried about Bush losing. If they really do have an "October Surprise" coming though, they're certainly giving the Kerry camp a head's up.
There is a new thread up.
Oh, no, not Mr. Hand!
{SQUASH}
Look, how many times do you liberals
Ok, so can we finally put the "Incognito is genuine" myth to bed now?
You'll note he also replies to himself (sound familiar?) without apparently "realising" that he's just done so; and then he's completely quiet. And since when has "Incognito" ever sat in a thread quietly? I'll tell you when he does that... when he's desperately hoping that no one else will notice he's just revealed himself twice in two posts.
I congratulate Tena at least for spotting it all the same. But as for the rest of you... Honestly folks, it's been obvious for ages that "Incognito" is simply here to spout outrageous claims and push people's buttons; whilst liberal tolerance and open mindedness is a wonderful thing, he's been using your qualities against you all for ages. Whether he's doing it just to tar liberals with the awful things he says, or it's just a performance designed to get attention, I am cannot of course be sure of: But either way, he's clearly a troll (indeed, perhaps one of our usual ones) and that he's been so widely accepted for so, so long as genuine is astounding to me.
No, the only doubt about "Incognito"'s integrity you should have after today is under which other name he thought he was posting one of those replies... because that's a name you should also be watching out for too. Troll or attention whore, it matters not; who ever he also is, is no genuine friend of yours either.
But for now, can we please have everyone finally realise that "Incognito" is clearly a trolling sock puppet, and from here on in, only ever address him by asking just whose hand is up his sock?
Oh, no, not Mr. Hand!
{SQUASH}
pie -
There is? If so, for some reason it's not showing up on my refreshed browser page.
Hey, gang, let's head on down to the Islands!
Down there, it's so warm that people shed their clothes spontaneously!
Bring your loofahs!
qp (way up thread) - It's my understanding that Kerry could conceivably win w/o Fla, as long as he takes OH and PA, though Bush is dependent on FLA to win.
I think. O Florida, hast thou no shame.....?
re DeLay and southeast Texas. It's region that is very entrenched, and highly invested in conformity. also very polarized racially and economically. Outright, old-fashioned blatant racism is prevalent.
A lot of the towns around Houston are plant towns where the majority of the population works for one employer. Sugarland was built largely by Imperial Sugar.
Also the prison industry is big-there are 21 prisons in the area around houston (fed, county and state facilities). Plants, prisons-not much difference - the point is they are "company towns"-- most of the planning and development in towns like this is done from the top down-the company is the mothership. The company giveth and the company taketh away.
This is the area of Texas that, at least until the oil boom had more in common with the Deep South. The economy of the area used to be dependent on cotton, sugar cane, rice and other crops that historically were dependent on slave labor. Even after slavery, the many prison farms participated in the practice of convict leasing, whereby local agriculture interests could lease convicts from the state.
Two of the most famous prison songs ever written - Ain't no More Cane on Brazos , and Midnight Special by Leadbelly, were written about life on the prison farms in and around Sugarland.
Janis Joplin was born nearby in Port Arthur. She famously said, "They laughed me out of class, out of town, and out of the state, man,"
anyway, all of that makes for a weird kind of stasis/conformity matrix that I personally don't find anywhere else in Texas except in both the northeastern (Jasper) and southeastern part.
Just my humble opinion
242 Hours remain
Kerry/Edwards In A LANDSLIDE!!
Oooh, the falafel!
What will we tell the falafel?
Think of the falafel!
If Incognito is a troll, he's the worstest, lamest excuse for a troll ever. Or I'm just oblivious.
Not saying he's NOT a troll, mind you, just that he's no good at it.
I congratulate Tena at least for spotting it all the same. But as for the rest of you...
AN - I agree with you.
However, the reason why I didn't say anything about those posts is because one day I just had more than enough of his "woe is me - we're all gonna die" rants. I wrote an amazingly flaming (for me) response about how cowardice is a disgusting trait, one not to be embraced by true patriots, and at the same time I swore off ever, ever, ever responding to him again, or responding *about* him. That's what I almost always do with trolls. Don't wanna give 'em the time of day, or any PR either. (I responded a couple of times to an idiot fascist troll who thought he knew how to write in German -- I couldn't resist showing him how he was incoherent in two languages.)
But for now, can we please have everyone finally realise that "Incognito" is clearly a trolling sock puppet, and from here on in, only ever address him by asking just whose hand is up his sock?
America's Nemesis
Yeah, I've been convinced he's a troll for a while now and have been ignoring him ever since. The whole "all heteros wanna kill all the gays" thing REALLY grates my nerves.
AM, I have a question for you: Yesterday, I defended "albert champion" as NOT being a troll, as far as I could tell. He may be bizarre, paranoid, off-topic, whatever, but he is thought-provoking at times and I never thought he crossed over into troll-hood... what do you think?
OT -
Just simple research:
Is there anyone here among you who is casting their vote based upon the endorsement of a particular media outlet, employee union or corporation?
Only those in the affirmative need answer.
Only those in the affirmative need answer.
CCofCA
I'm gonna have to check my blog and see
who it is endorsing. I'm pretty sure
that it is Kerry, but I am not sure.
I'll Check and get back to ya.
Kerry/Edwards In A LANDSLIDE!!
http://tinyurl.com/4pu8f
Help Bush Get a Brain, oops, he doesn't know how to use them.
Fun game for those moments before the Raptur.
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Help Bush Get a Brain, oops, he doesn't know how to use them.
Fun game for those moments before the Raptur.
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MisterX -
If you don't mind me butting in, I agree with you about albert champion. Not a troll. Even though some people are annoyed by his postings, I almost always find them interesting.
In particular, I was impressed with the piece he wrote comparing Kerry's service experience with Bush's. It was long, but he got into experiential aspects of it (what it was physically and emotionally like to be on the Delta on a Swiftboat vs. what it was like to be a party boy in Texas) that I hadn't heard anyone else express in such detail. It sounded quite passionate to me. The "pox on both houses" aspect of his posts is something I can't embrace, but that's not really trollish to me. Just albert, as he is.
OT Blatant plug: Tena, if you were using Opera, you could make any webpage look the way you want it to look with the click of a button. No, I don't work for Opera, I just love their browser.
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And with Opera you avoid any viruses etc that take advantage of Microshaft Explorer (or whatever their browser is called). There is a free version with a little ad up in the right corner or you can pay for it and get rid of the ad. I paid for it but have not yet bothered to go through the process of getting rid of the ad because it usually not very annoying. For example, right now the ad is simply "BUY OPERA TODAY! And make this banner go away"
I'm with Kate, Albert is no troll. Anybody that jokes about putting arsenic in his wingnut dinner guests salads (as he posted between courses) is probably on our side. He may be off the wall and ramble at times, but no troll.
Chauncy - why is cable better? Yah, the thing that has held me back from switching is that DSL isn't available where I go in the summer, so I know going back to dial-up for 4 months is going to be agonizing. Tena | Email | Homepage | 10.23.04 - 5:10 pm |
Tena
Have you considered the satellite based service DirectTV offers? They claim it works anywhere so long as "you have a view of the southern sky."
At work I am on a high speed network and at home dial-up. The dial-up is usually still tolerable. The only thing is that you think before starting really big downloads. However, with Opera, you can start downloading a file one day, log off, and then continue downloading the next day, even if you have rebooted during that time. I find that I can have one file downloading even while I am reading blogs or something similar. You can start downloading files, then stop them, then up you are going to be away from the computer for a while, just start them all downloading while you are gone.
AM, I have a question for you: Yesterday, I defended "albert champion" as NOT being a troll, as far as I could tell.
*slaps*
That's for the "AM" bit :-p
(It's one of the ways the genuine AM gives himself away; he gets confused at times and thinks I'm actually using his original name, rather than this one)
I'd say he's probably not a troll.
One of the things trolls always forget is that they actually aren't who they are pretending to be, but that other people are... They believe that if they are witty enough (and of course they are witty enough, eh?) they can simulate being someone they are not; And a great actor can get close enough to fool a disintersted audience, it is true. But without being exactly what you say you are, you can never completely fool someone who genuinely is that kind of person themselves. They simply will always have better knowledge, at a far closer distance, than you.
And long story short, Albert sounds genuine. I've been active in liberal/left politics for nearly 20 years now, and I've met many, many Alberts. Whatever his beliefs, and yes they can be wacky at times, he's got the ring of personal authority about him all the same. None of what he says can be said to be a guess, but is something I've heard other people on the left conclude for themselves too... And he can hold that consistency when questioned, which someone trying to read from a preconcieved script cannot.
I may be wrong, I concede... However so far, I've seen no reason to seriously suspect so.
Incidentally, I think some of the people who troll here genuinely are Nader voters. But they are Nader voters because they are by their very nature an antisocial troll, and they want to troll the political system itself too, rather than because they actually know or care anything about what Nader is running on. Voting Nader and upsetting Democrats is so much more effective and for so much less risk than voting Communist and getting your ass kicked by hyper-patriotic jocks. It is to the Green Party's credit in this election that it has tried to distance itself from this particular faction... and eternally amusing to see the trolls don't seem to have realised just what ticket Nader is actually on this time
After spending almost 3 hours trying to fix my goddamn washing machine only to find that it's now leaking from the bottom -- and now regarding my COMPUTER as the only piece of technology that doesn't make me feel like a fool -- I'll belatedly weigh in on the DSL/cable controversy.
Everybody offers discounts, DSL and cable. I had what used to be Time Warner cable + Roadrunner for several years before my last move, and loved it EXCEPT we had frequent problems with the cable going out. I knew the tech assistance number by heart. We still have this problem at my office, where we're on cable.
After moving, I got DSL -- no cable net access here. It's $30/month when you couple it with a phone package that has the bells & whistles I'd buy anyway, like CID and call waiting. Since the DSL install almost 2 years ago, I have had zero problems with it, and I can't tell any speed difference between DSL and cable. You plug filters between every phone jack in the house and the line going to the phone to filter out the noise; takes two minutes to do your whole house, and Verizon sends you the filters with your modem.
It depends largely on who's offering what packages in your area, and how decent the company/service is. I used to work for an agency that created advertising and collateral for one cable company, and was shocked at the price differences between communities where the company had competition and where it didn't. But realistically, after dial-up, ANY kind of broadband is heaven.
Now if my washing machine would just stop leaking. Maybe if I defrag its hard drive it'll behave.
It's Saturday, so here's a poem:
On the day the world ends
A bee circles a clover,
A fisherman mends a glimmering net.
Happy porpoises jump in the sea,
By the rainspout young sparrows are playing,
And the snake is gold-skinned as it
should always be.
On the day the world ends
Women walk through the fields under
their umbrellas,
A drunkard grows sleepy at the edge of
a lawn,
Vegetable peddlers shout in the street
And a yellow-sailed boat comes nearer
the island,
The voice of a violin lasts in the air
And leads into a starry night
And those who expected lightning and thunder
Are disappointed.
And those who expected signs and archangel’s trumps
Do not believe it is happening now,
As long as the sun and moon are above
As long as the bumblebee visits a rose,
As long as rosy infants are born
No one believes it is happening now,
Only a white-haired old man, would be a prophet
Yet is not a prophet, for he’s much too busy,
Repeats while he binds his tomatoes:
There will be no other end of the world.
There will be no other end of the world.”
~ Czeslaw Milosv, “A Song on the End of the World”
Have you considered the satellite based service DirectTV offers? They claim it works anywhere so long as "you have a view of the southern sky."
Seriously, Tena, fuck that. I have DirecTV and every time it rains or the wind blows too hard, my TV goes all "searching for signal." Wouldn't hook that up to my computer if THEY paid ME. Unfortunately the cable TV company here is so shitty, sat-TV is the only option besides rabbit-ears and 5 channels.
http://atrios.blogspot.com/2004/...-war-
wrong.html
Duncan, are you going to post a correction or let the lie live on?
Tenet story clarified
Former CIA Director George Tenet told the Economic Club of Southwestern Michigan on Wednesday that the United States was wrong on its pre-war intelligence in Iraq, but an article in Thursday's Herald-Palladium may have put the comment in an incorrect context.
The story said Tenet called the war in Iraq "wrong." However, after reviewing the reporter's notes (Tenet barred reporters from using tape recorders), the newspaper now believes Tenet used the word "wrong" in the context of U.S. intelligence, not on the direct question of whether the United States should be in Iraq.
Here are excerpts of Tenet's comments from the reporter's notes:
(Although) "we were wrong in Iraq ... (the CIA) is not the dysfunctional lot the media has led you to believe."
"We are rightly being challenged on our performance in Iraq."
(Regarding an audience request that he clarify his view on the Iraq war): "I did not walk in and tell the president that it (the Iraq invasion) was wrong to do. I won't say at the end of the game, when things are looking bad, that I was against it all along."
(Regarding an audience question as to whether the Iraq invasion was a "waste" in the greater war on terrorism): "I don't think it was a waste when you look at the regime he ran. We made a decision. Politically you can decide if it was right. Either way, we need to honor the commitment we made."
http://heraldpalladium.com/artic.../news/
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AM, I have a question for you: Yesterday, I defended "albert champion" as NOT being a troll, as far as I could tell.
*slaps*
That's for the "AM" bit :-p
HOLY SPIT! HAW HAW HAW HAW! I REALLY didn't mean that... sheesh, it's been a while since the "America's Memory"-troll stunk up the joint!
Sorry about that, AN!
...he's got the ring of personal authority about him all the same... And he can hold that consistency when questioned, which someone trying to read from a preconcieved script cannot.
Yeah, that's it exactly. I've met a few "alberts" too, and a few genius/creative-types and they sound very much like this. Personally, I generally enjoy "albert champion's" posts...
And yours too, America's Nemesis! Always fun to watch an expert troll-flensing by a Master!
Silleigh
I think Tena spends the summers in Colorado. I don't think it rains much there in the summer. I agree with you that DirecTV has problems sometimes when it rains, but here on the east coast it probably loses the signal about once or twice a month for a few minutes. It usually happens during a thunderstorm when I consider it prudent to shut down the computer anyhow.
Albert's major malfunction is that when he gets too overwrought, he comes dangerously close to advocating violence.
One time I even thought someone had stolen his name because the poster was advocating some pretty harsh crap on Repug Congresspeople.Turns out it was Albert hisself.
Guy makes me nervous at times.
___ league: That probably has a lot to do with it.
I live in Florida. If we don't have a thunder-bummer in the afternoon during summer and fall, we wonder what went wrong up there. My DirecTV goes a'hunting for a signal maybe 2 or 3 times a week, often with no rain going on, and I spend a lot less time with the TV on than the computer so it probably happens more often than that. Ahh, life in paradise.
"I won't say at the end of the game, when things are looking bad, that I was against it all along." George Tenet
HAHAHAHAHA!
That Tenet! What a funny guy! By saying he "won't say" it, he just said it. Way to stick the shiv in on Bushco!
And what's even funnier is that I think it's a familiar anti-Kerry troll who posted this! Too, too funny.
Anybody else hear the six jet fighters hauling ass over Boston around 8pm?
Kate--
Agree that "Rapture" is an excellent & too little known film -- Mimi Rogers was great -- story line was extraordinarily clever -- I think my favorite line was, "You got that done in one night!?"
"I have DirecTV and every time it rains or the wind blows too hard, my TV goes all "searching for signal." --Silleigh"
Call DTV and have them reinstall your dish. If the dish isn't wobbly, it shouldn't do that during storms. More likely, there is a tree in the way of your signal, and the tree is moving in the wind.
Get an oval dish, which will give you two tuners (with TiVo) as well as HDTV-ready. MUCH more stable, once installed as high as you can (DTV installers tend to use the lowest install position because it's easier to get to).
Experience talking.
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If ya'll have the option between broadband or DSL, why would you choose DSL? The price is about the same (within ten dollars/month), and broadband downloads about twice as fast.
And if you get enhanced DSL, you can't stomach cable. Not to mention those firewall/bandwidth sharing problems associated with cable modems. I was at a friend's house, one of those people who brags about how fast his cable modem is...until everyone in his apartment complex fires up their cable modems.
Sorry, I like having my line all to myself. And I've guilt-tripped my Internet provider into giving me the enhanced DSL at the basic DSL rate for 2 years now.
I delight in the prospect of Delay going to jail as much as anybody here but....
when John Kerry wins (in a landside), Delay is going to be on the A list of pardons bush* is going to be issuing from Nov 3 till Jan 20. I expect he'll be papering the town with them he's got so much to cover up.
A defining characteristic of the gopranos is projection. They claim that the Dem's are doing what they themselves are or would be doing.
Expect pardons, the White House getting trashed and looted, and I even expect the staffers will be staeling the W keys from their keyboards to keep as souveniers.
Of course, after Nov 5, the White house will be like a ghost town. Everybody will clear out by Friday but collect their checks through January.
Justice DeLayed is justice denied.
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