I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Tena! thanks, girl!
Tena! thanks, girl!
Right on time...
Sorry, but that was worth a double.
There's an echo in here.
Thanks for the new thread -- it looks like the last one had lost all direction. Makes me miss the woot stuff and the boobies. Not even the trolls could make that last one fun to read -- but I am sure someone will take great offense at this comment and we will be on another "roll." I enjoy checking this blog to see what others have to say -- but I guess there are times when sensible people with real opiions on real issues have other things to do.
I am going with this open thread. Tena put me on the blogroll at First Draft, but Atrios has yet to add me to the blog roll here! My loyalty is for sale, cheap.
Pipe down, just me. Heh.
Anybody want to talk about all the GOP supress the vote efforts? Nothing gets me more explosive than that issue
Oh, no! Mr. Bill is on this thread too! Remember, only talk about what he wants to talk about!
.
I'm posting on this thread to show my soliditary with Tena, who apparently feels sheepish for cross-posting with Atrios.
Tena rules!
Well, bigvic, I have been trying to put together a summary over at my blog.
/shameless
mr. bill, no one cares. 
Bush is campaigning like victory is imminent, he is going for the landslide. He is going to states that have been Democratic strongholds for decades. Kerry is desperate, still trying to convince his own base, wasting time in states he should have locked up months ago.
www.wolfpacksforthetruth.org!
"We Are Not Terrorists!"
Vote suppresion...
I'm just amazed that they are so blatant about it. Used to be that politicians at least made an effort to hide their dirt.
Politics is nasty, but I guess it beats the heck out of shooting your opponents.
Bush is campaigning like victory is imminent, he is going for the landslide. He is going to states that have been Democratic strongholds for decades. Kerry is desperate, still trying to convince his own base, wasting time in states he should have locked up months ago.
Heh. Who wants to take this one?
Batter up!
Bush is campaigning like victory is imminent, he is going for the landslide. He is going to states that have been Democratic strongholds for decades. Kerry is desperate, still trying to convince his own base, wasting time in states he should have locked up months ago.
Anonymous | Email | Homepage | 10.23.04 - 7:10 pm | #
Anonymous is definitely a member of the faith-based community.
I agree with "Anonymous"--assuming that by "imminent" he really meant "impossible."
If that's a go, I'm with ya, Anon!
BTW, just saw the video of the attempted pie-ing of Annthrax... how the fuck do you blow a "gimme" like that?!? At the very least, the second guy should have been waitng to hit her as she stepped away!
Where are the professionals when you need 'em?
Atrios shows manly man balls by not fearing cross bloggers. And with good reason. Folks are addicted to this lovely blog.
And 1st Draft is 1st rate.
I like Tena's threads better than Atrios'. She's got style...
Kerry is campaigning like victory is imminent, he is going for the landslide. He is going to states that have been Republican strongholds for decades. Bush is desperate, still trying to convince his own base, wasting time in states he should have locked up months ago.
See how easy that is?
Here's an angle to play up:
Will the Republicans suppress the vote in Iraq the way they are doing in this country?
dave - yeah it's kind of embarrassing to walk in someone's back door and find them sitting in the kitchen when you didn't think they were home.
bigvic,
Oh, I think this'll get yer pet goat:
Cheney: World Would Be Worse With Kerry
Who wants to take this one?
Oh, really, why bother?
It is pretty funny in its own delusional way, though...
Memo to trolls: yup, you're right, you sure persuaded me, you can go home now.
Yes Kerry should have had arizona colorado and ohio wrapped up long ago...
All you really have to do is switch Bush and Kerry in that comment and it is a true statement.
"The Onion" reports that Cheney will invade America if Kerry wins.
I'm not sure they're joking.
Anonymous at 7:13 was not the troll Anonymous.
Bush is campaigning like victory is imminent, he is going for the landslide. He is going to states that have been Democratic strongholds for decades. Kerry is desperate, still trying to convince his own base, wasting time in states he should have locked up months ago.
Bush made four stops in Florida today. Kerry went to Florida, New Mexico, and Colorado. So you are wrong, Anonymous.
You know what's sad, really - the trolls just hang in there. The rallies are only half full, Kerry is being mobbed by people - wish I had one of those photos to link to and they still lie to themselves. Like the people in the churches who are told not to pay any attention to the news out of Irak because everything is really just fine.
Bush is campaigning like victory is imminent, he is going for the landslide. He is going to states that have been Democratic strongholds for decades. Kerry is desperate, still trying to convince his own base, wasting time in states he should have locked up months ago.
Anonymous
Uh, dude, I think you got that backwards.
Boy, that was easy! And fun! Thanks!
Well, around here we're waiting with baited breath to see if our local paper (Cox news syndicate) endorses Bush. Won't be surprised if they do, in an attempt to hedge their bets (hoping to get his Presidential library here in town). Anybody know who the head of Cox news is and what his/her political persuasion is?
Okay, not really trying to push the "sports parallel" thing too far, but . . .
Anybody see Boston (yeah, BOSTON) College's semi-miraculous victory over Notre Dame today--at South Bend?
Starting to get a little spooky . . .
"Bush is campaigning like victory is imminent..."
I for one find this enormously encouraging. The last time Bush declared a victory, it turned out to be a popular uprising instead. I believe that will be the case this time as well.
It is pretty funny in its own delusional way, though...
Dave, Limbaugh spent all of last week on this theme.(IT'S A LIE).... WHEN ARE THE DEMOCRATS GOING TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT LIMBAUGH. WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO SHUT HIM UP? WHEN?
Bush is campaigning like victory is imminent, he is going for the landslide. He is going to states that have been Democratic strongholds for decades. Kerry is desperate, still trying to convince his own base, wasting time in states he should have locked up months ago.
In a last flurry of flailing desperation, Bush -- at Rove's command -- is pretending to be over-confident. Rove believes that people want to vote for a winner, so you pretend that you're winning even if -- especially if -- you're tanking. Bush is tanking, so he's pulling out all the stops to feed the very mis-impression that our friendly troll has just offered us.
The rallies are only half full, Kerry is being mobbed by people - wish I had one of those photos to link to and they still lie to themselves.
Like this one and this one and this one?
And the bullshit continues:
FBI chases new leads on election attack plot, as CIA source discredited
(10-23) 13:54 PDT WASHINGTON (AP) -- FBI investigators have made new arrests and developed leads that reinforce concerns that terrorists plan to strike around the presidential election, officials said Saturday, even though the CIA has discredited a person who told its agents of such a plot involving al-Qaida.
A senior FBI official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said some of the leads were culled from interviews with thousands of individuals that agents have conducted in the Muslim community.
The official would not be more specific, but said the FBI continues to have misgivings about possible al-Qaida intentions to launch an attack with the goal of affecting the elections.
Several people have been taken into custody recently on charges not related to terrorism, but officials are investigating whether they may have been involved in terror activities, said another law enforcement official, speaking on condition of anonymity.
As for the person who warned the CIA, at least some of that individual's reporting no longer is seen as credible, said a U.S. intelligence official, speaking on condition of anonymity. The official stressed, however, that a number of other sources point to terrorist activity around the election season.
The official also said no concrete plot has been discovered so far with specific mention of time, place, method or identity of would-be attackers.
Anyone care to nominate this year's Bill Buckner?
I want the Sox to win, but I've been through this before. I know better than to get my hopes up. Of course i will get my hopes up anyway before it's all over, and that's when they'll screw it up.
The Kenosha Kid,
Thanks for the blogwhore. I'm going to check it out. I cannot believe the farkin' lame ass press keeps acting like massive fraud and vote suppresion is commonplace and both sides engage in it. The Dem lawyers would not have to get active if it were not for the Thugs openly trying to kill the votes of democrats. Dirty politics is one thing Gopers shine at, but stealing elections twice in a row is cause for extreme measures.
Atrios needs to address something Al Hunt just said on Capital Gang - that if this race is decided by headquarters decisions, then Bush wins easily. Why? Because Clinton is being wasted on a Philadelphia visit.
I thought this was a stupid comment. Why?
1) Let's get Philadelphia tied down
2) Let's have a 50,000+ crowd to show live on TV
3) It's not his only stop.
Care to take a stab at defending Philadelphia.
Watch out on your way to the polls, Democrats!
We will attack you!
Grrr! Grrr!
Hey, we're not kidding, either!
See our teeth?
Ooowwww!
Old Hat - thanks for the great Kerry pictures. I love those crowd scenes - they just make me feel happy.
Anyone care to nominate this year's Bill Buckner?
This guy.
You know what's sad, really - the trolls just hang in there....
I've got a wingnut sitting next to me at work these days... he just never gives up. Everything has to be tied into the great liberal conspiracy. Most amusing was the way he was sadly shaking his head last week over the prospect of legal wrangling after the polls close. He must get the brownshirt memos hourly...
The last time Bush declared a victory, it turned out to be a popular uprising instead. I believe that will be the case this time as well.
Full Mano-Mano Warfare.
Video :
SupaDubya :: this is MY world and MY game!
pLay it loud...
enjoy...
Goddamn it I can't take the lameness of these trolls - are they sending us the trainees lately?
Correction - I of course meant let's get Pennsylvania tied down
Why are we so surprised at these tactics by the GOP? It's not like they have a recent history of being nice, you know.
So now that they have begun taking away our overtime pay, will the minimum wage be next?
Or perhaps child labor laws?
Maybe we can combine the best of them and get 8-year olds to enlist...
Have A Nice, Hot Cup O' Joe!
Want to thank the poster who introduced us to the Tucker Skewd blog on the ast thread.
FInally a rightwing blog that doesnt ban people for dissenting opinions.
remember the murder of jon benet-ramsey? her parents fought tooth and nail, hammer and claw against being interviewed by the authorities.
then they negotiated that they would only be interviewed together.
WHY?
the general consensus is that they were hiding something.
bush and cheney fought tooth and nail, hammer and claw to prevent a commission from investigating 9/11.
then they negotiated that they would only be interviewed together with no audio and video notation.
WHY?
the general consesus is that they are...
Y'know, there's something simultaneously poignant and gratifying about watching "All The President's Men" on one of the Cinemax channels right now. One waxes nostalgic for the days when the media actually had a set of balls, gets disturbed when the Nixon delegates chant "Four More Years!", and feels validated when the dynamic duo finally brings Nixon down.
Old Hat - thanks for the great Kerry pictures. I love those crowd scenes - they just make me feel happy.
Kerry will win and America will win. I am confident. No October Surprise from Bush but I am pretty sure the CIA is going to leak that report that names names in the White House about hyping the WMD.
They're screwed. They don't have any gas left in the tank.
watertiger,
linky didn't work. Try again and watch your space bar. I fuck that part up all the time.
smalfishI Want to thank the poster who introduced us to the Tucker Skewd blog on the ast thread.
You're welcome
...just working for freedom...
feeling compelled to wonder why, in the previous thread's discussion of Altman, no one mentioned Nashville?
In an election year, in a discussion about Altman, no one mentioned Nashville?
It don't worry me.
It don't worry me.
You may say that I ain't free,
but it don't worry me.
What's pissing me off is how polls are reported. Headlines with "Bush Pulls Ahead!" are showing a five-point lead for Bush in a Time poll - among 800 *likely* voters.
They conveniently fail to report the polling results for the 1100 *registered* voters.
And they don't mention what the margin of error is - if it's within that five point spread (yes, even among *likely* voters), it's still tied.
The SCLM sucks. Fuck CNN.
Nothing gets me more explosive than that issue
bigvic
Explosive, wouldn't invove copius amounts of methane gas would it? We
wouldn't want to do that to ya, if that
was the case.
Tena
Kerry Rally Picture
Kerry/Edwards In A LANDSLIDE!!
Old Hat,
I second the nomination!
Atrios needs to address something Al Hunt just said on Capital Gang - that if this race is decided by headquarters decisions, then Bush wins easily. Why? Because Clinton is being wasted on a Philadelphia visit.
well, sounds like we're fucked when Al Hunt makes the Politburo.
bigvic,
aw, crap. sorry 'bout that. Gonna try again (and cross mah finguhs):
Dick Cheney's Scary Revisionist History
Kerry will win and America will win. I am confident. No October Surprise from Bush but I am pretty sure the CIA is going to leak that report that names names in the White House about hyping the WMD.
I am positive Kerry will win. The polls are not reaching the record numbers of newly registered voters, most of whom will vote democratic, nor are they polling people with cell phones only - who tend to be young and trending heavily for Kerry.
I think the SCLM is going to have a big surprise on Nov. 3. And I think they'll owe President Kerry an apology.
bush
puppies peeing like ravenous wolves
big bad wolf
pounding on doors
i'm a patriot!
you can trust me!
little grandma
still recalling
how she got fucked over by
black oil wolves at enron.....
waiting for li'l red riding hood
to come and console her
big bad wolf
in bush's eyes
says "you can trust me!
i'm faith-based
no need to watch my actions
just have faith!"
grandma's wary of big
bad bush puppies ravenous wolves
cowering in a corner as
the door goes knock knock
knock knock
who's there
grandma says
it's just lil ol me says bush
as he hides his fourth reich insignia
come let me in
come let me in
...are they sending us the trainees lately?
The semi-literate brownshirts all jumped the sinking ship some time ago, when they figured out the paychecks were gonna stop one minute after midnight Nov. 3.
All they've got left is whoever they can round up at the bus stop...
Did the CNN bobble head happened to mention that CNN and Time are owned by the same parent company?
Old hat, kent,
Thanks for the uplifting pics! JFK is going to make an awesome President, and Little Big John will carry on his fine legacy.
BTW, just saw the video of the attempted pie-ing of Annthrax... how the fuck do you blow a "gimme" like that?!? At the very least, the second guy should have been waitng to hit her as she stepped away!
Annthrax was running faster than Annie Jacobsen from a Syrian musician.
Atrios needs to address something Al Hunt just said on Capital Gang - that if this race is decided by headquarters decisions, then Bush wins easily. Why? Because Clinton is being wasted on a Philadelphia visit.
well, sounds like we're fucked when Al Hunt makes the Politburo.
theodoric.
Al's wife is Booty Woodruff. That should explain it all.
Thank god I'm not privvy to the pillow talk in that house, I'd barf myself to death.
I sent AP the following e-mail. The Jennifer Kerr article about the rounding of up American Muslims and "interviewing them" is a work of art worthy of Goebbels. The Ministry of Propaganda extols the latest fine work of the Gestapo.
By JENNIFER C. KERR, Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON - FBI (news - web sites) investigators have made new arrests and developed leads that reinforce concerns that terrorists plan to strike around the presidential election, officials said Saturday, even though the CIA (news - web sites) has discredited a person who told its agents of such a plot involving al-Qaida.
AP Photo
AP Photo
Slideshow: Homeland Security
A senior FBI official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said some of the leads were culled from interviews with thousands of individuals that agents have conducted in the Muslim community.
The official would not be more specific, but said the FBI continues to have misgivings about possible al-Qaida intentions to launch an attack with the goal of affecting the elections.
Several people have been taken into custody recently on charges not related to terrorism, but officials are investigating whether they may have been involved in terror activities, said another law enforcement official, speaking on condition of anonymity.
As for the person who warned the CIA, at least some of that individual's reporting no longer is seen as credible, said a U.S. intelligence official, speaking on condition of anonymity. The official stressed, however, that a number of other sources point to terrorist activity around the election season.
The official also said no concrete plot has been discovered so far with specific mention of time, place, method or identity of would-be attackers.
James Carafano, a homeland security expert with the conservative think tank Heritage Foundation, said there's little doubt that al-Qaida wants to send a message with an attack.
"I think they're probably less concerned with affecting the outcome of the election, whether Bush or Kerry wins, but it would be more prestigious, the capability to do something before the election and really undermine the confidence of the United States," he said.
Top government officials have warned since the spring about al-Qaida's desire to attack during the election with the hope of orchestrating something similar to the March commuter train bombings in Madrid. The bombings, which killed more than 190 people, were a factor in the ouster of Spain's former ruling party.
The FBI has partnered with American Muslims and others as part of what the agency describes as a prevention plan aimed at disrupting an attack. Thousands of agents from bureaus across the country are participating in the effort.
FBI agents have interviewed thousands of people considered possible sources of information as well as about 10,000 operators of self-storage facilities, which are considered likely pl
Bigvic, et al:
Caca! Here's the story, cuz it ain't linking. I apologize to all beleaguered parties:
Cheney: World Would Be Worse With Kerry
FARMINGTON, N.M. - The Soviet Union might still exist and Saddam Hussein might control the Persian Gulf and possess nuclear weapons had Democrat John Kerry been president when the United States faced those regimes, Vice President Dick Cheney said Saturday.
"I think it's a good thing that he wasn't in charge," Cheney said.
Kerry asserted Friday that had he been president during the war in Afghanistan, terrorist leader Osama bin Laden would be in captivity or dead. The Democratic nominee has long criticized President Bush for abandoning the pursuit of the alleged mastermind of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks so that U.S. forces could invade Iraq and topple Saddam.
Contending that the Massachusetts senator was "claiming that the world would be a whole lot better if he had been president," Cheney suggested to supporters at a rally that he believed the world would be far worse off.
"Let's go back to the 1970s when John Kerry was saying that we should only deploy U.S. troops under the authority of the United Nations," the vice president said, citing a statement Kerry made in 1970 after returning from Vietnam service. "One way the world might look if he had been in charge is, we would have ceded our right to defend ourselves to the United Nations."
Cheney said Kerry campaigned for the Senate on a platform of opposing major weapons systems that, during the Reagan administration, helped win the Cold War. "So if John Kerry had been in charge, maybe the Soviet Union would still be in business," the vice president said.
Kerry voted against going to war in the Persian Gulf in 1991 after Saddam had invaded Kuwait. "So if John Kerry had been in charge, Saddam might well control the Persian Gulf today," Cheney said. "After the Gulf War, international inspectors judged that Saddam would have been armed with nuclear weapons by the early '90s. So not only would Saddam control a crucial part of the Middle East, he might well have nuclear weapons."
Cheney said Kerry recently contended that the United States must pass "some kind of global test before we could take military action" and assured supporters "the president and I know better than that." However, Kerry actually said the "global test" would come after the United States had taken pre-emptive action and has vowed never to allow another country to determine how the United States would defend itself.
stinky -- actually, i did notice an interesting pattern on cnn yesterday. in the polls where kerry was ahead -- miles obrien would studiously report 'the moe is 3 points making this a statistical tie'; in polls where jr was ahead -- no such reminder.
kent - thank you that one is superb.
Old Hat - "Kerry will win, America will win..."
I love it when you talk sexy.
Anyone care to nominate this year's Bill Buckner?
I want the Sox to win, but I've been through this before. I know better than to get my hopes up. Of course i will get my hopes up anyway before it's all over, and that's when they'll screw it up.
Well if there is a Buckner, I hope it's Kevin Millar. Millar's a scab, having crossed the lines to play as a replacement player in 1995.
...Clinton is being wasted on a Philadelphia visit.
I'm sure the Big Dog's vet is keeping him on a very, very short leash, and probably didn't even want him out of earshot to begin with. Philly is probably as far as he'd allow him to fly...
watertiger
Thanks for reminding me of "All the President's Men" -- one of my favorite movies. I think I'll pull out the DVD and watch it later tonight.
I second the nomination!
Bush reminds me of a basketball team down 10 points with 2 minutes left to play. They start running a full court press and start making fouls in an effort to turn the ball over.
It rarely works.
I didn't watch the TV show but apparently Sinclair got nailed by a truly impressive activist effort. And the Red Sox won. It bodes well for our side. We have our shit together.
wolcott on coulter:
"But credit where credit is due. The skank can shift ass on a dime.
When a pair of hooligans tried to attack her with pies during a speaking appearance, an episode broadcast on cable news today, Coulter didn't freeze like a deer in the headlights. She showed lightning reflexes, ducking away from the lectern and running backstage on high heels, which any woman will tell you is difficult to do. Because of her quick getaway, the flying pies wildly missed their target, sparing her a humiliating cream pie bukkake facial that would have made the papers and been downloaded millions of times on the internet.
Perhaps she was a dodgeball champion in school, or perhaps her nerves are so permanently on edge she can sense danger while the rest of us are in our usual fog. One can only conjecture. But I do know that if it had been Jonah Goldberg up there trying out new comedy material, he'd have been wearing dessert."
Kerry is desperate, still trying to convince his own base,
Har dee har! What a hoot. Yeah, that's why Kerry's got Republicans like military brass, Eisenhower's son, the big organization Republicans for Kerry (traveling and energetically turning out Republican votes for the Dem ticket in battleground states), and all those Republican locale newspapers endorsing him.
And Bush has...Zell Miller and Ed Koch. Poor dears -- Bush certainly has the delusional dementia votes sewn up.
Joe Vecchio
Minimum wage may very well be next, and I wouldn't rule out child labor laws either. These guys are targeting the whole of the New Deal, which gave us the 40 hour workweek, social security, and end to child labor, worker protection -- in other words damn near every facet of what anyone who works for a living would think of as the modern world. They want to take us back to the economic model of roughly 1890.
Problem is, this model failed spectacularly in 1929. And it pretty much failed globally. The two most noteworthy responses to it were the New Deal (boo! hisssss!) and... fascism (uh... yay?)
As for enlisting 8-year olds, my daughter who is 11 asked me if it was possible to lower the draft age below 18. She seems to realize that women as well as men are going to get drafted the way things are going. I wouldn't rule it out, I told her. If we get the right number of idiots in Congress, I wouldn't put it past them to lower the age of consent if that was the only way to feed the militaristic beast. I know at one time it was possible to enlist at 17 -- maybe they'll lower that as well.
Common sense and common decency are not going to act as a bar to the ambitions of these unscrupulous people.
big vic, Tena, you both are welcome.
Thanks Old Hat for your photos.
It is just amazing the energy that those
photos contain, between that and that
kighlarious "puppy spot" I have to conclude.....
Kerry/Edwards In A LANDSLIDE!!
That Cheney - he's a blunt old bastard. He is selling the Bush administration as The War Administration and Kerry as a Peace Maker. Oh what to do what to do. Vote for death and destruction or peace and a calm life.
They just don't stop with the fear mongering, not for a second. It's like some weird pornography.
I think if Kerry wins, the story vis-a-vis political history will be, "2004: The Year Democrats Learned to Fight Smart".
And by "Bush" I mean "BC04."
watertiger,
Whoops! Watch your space bar AND your quotion marks. It's easy to miss stuff when you get *happy fingers* I do it all the time.
Dave,
When it comes to heart surgery, Philadelphia has some of the premier hospitals and surgeons in the world. Big Dog is in good hands.
Kerry should just run as the War Victory President instead of the Catastrophic Success preznut
would make the rethug flamejobs nice and pissed
He is selling the Bush administration as The War Administration and Kerry as a Peace Maker. Oh what to do what to do. Vote for death and destruction or peace and a calm life.
Heh. Tena, you are just full of piss and vineagar tonite. AND I LIKE IT!
Sorry for shouting.
Catastrophic Success. Is that like burning down your house to get rid of one rat?
And they don't mention what the margin of error is - if it's within that five point spread (yes, even among *likely* voters), it's still tied.
no, it's not. a lead in a poll is a lead in a poll. A poll is not an error-prone measurement of the entire population; it's an exact result for the particular people surveyed, at the particular times you asked them.
what there is uncertainty about is how well the particular individuals polled represent the rest of the population. The MoE is an attempt to quantify that uncertainty, under the assumption that the sample (the choice of the particular 1000 or so people you talked to) is unbiased.
I think if Kerry wins, the story vis-a-vis political history will be, "2004: The Year Democrats Learned to Fight Smart".
It's the power of the Internet. The Sinclair thing is a case study -- Media Matters kicked the whole thing off, everyone was kept informed by Atrios, JMM, Kos, et al. and the Sinclair Boycott website, compete with an advertiser database as made in, what? 24 hours? The turnaround time was amazing. It took less than a week for everyone to put so much pressure on them that the entire corporation caved. Think about it. Everyone, collectively, served Rove a 145 MPH Andy Roddick heater straight into his eyeball. Props to us.
And liberals will just get better and better at this type of fast turnaround action and other war room tactics.
Goddamn it I can't take the lameness of these trolls - are they sending us the trainees lately?
Nah, Tena, this is the weekend swing shift. Minimum wage under the table, no benefits. They even lock the liquor cabinet at RNC headquarters when this crew is in the house on Saturday night.
Thank you everyone. It is such a pleasure to read all of your comments.
Just Curious-
My Local Paper (SF Chron) has an article front page about heavily armed SWAT police patrolling the train system to prevent "terrorist attacks" in the run-up to the election. Is this going on in other cities? Is someone trying to put us on edge? The article doesn't say who made the decision to start the patrols, but it smacks of being afraid of wolves!
I was told there might be kitties?
toonscribe,
my pleasure! I was 14 when the movie came out -- I thought Jason Robards' Ben Bradlee was the cat's meow! Cajones!
senator byrd, once again, is standing up for the constitution and bravely bucking 9/11 commission recommendations:
"Let us remember that intelligence--remember, this is not just Robert Byrd saying this--let us remember that the intelligence was manipulated to get us into the Iraq war. Will it not be more easily manipulated in the hands of one intelligence chief, a partisan chief more free than ever to tweak intelligence to please a President? It may be a Democratic President. Does that make it any better? No. That makes no difference. It is comforting to believe that our intelligence agencies will not be manipulated for political gain, but it is also naive to believe that. To turn over to a greater degree the power of the purse to shadowy figures in the intelligence community is to invite abuses like those that lead to scandal and to the disgrace of the United States in the eyes of the international community."
[...]
"The larger concern is not only that the Congress, in its rush to act, may botch the implementation of the 9/11 Commission's recommendation, but that those recommendations may not be as well-thought-out as the public relations campaign would have us believe. We are so threatened by the politics surrounding the 9/11 Commission's report and the release of its recommendations prior to the Presidential election that we stand ready--stand, salute--to abdicate our constitutional responsibilities rather than to question or probe deeper into the potential flaws of the Commission's recommendations. "
New Bush health care plan.
http://tinyurl.com/5otqu
GO SOX!!!!
Nah, Tena, this is the weekend swing shift. Minimum wage under the table, no benefits. They even lock the liquor cabinet at RNC headquarters when this crew is in the house on Saturday night.
Richard Cranium
A pleasure to have you back, sir. Looks like we have an all star cast on this obviously uneventful Sat. night.
"My Local Paper (SF Chron) has an article front page about heavily armed SWAT police patrolling the train system to prevent "terrorist attacks" in the run-up to the election. Is this going on in other cities?"
I used to live in San Francisco. There's a very good chance those aren't actually SWAT police -- just guys who like to dress up in the uniform....
John Mac,
I think it's more for show (look how we're protecting you, America!)It's going to backfire on Bush. No one likes to be reminded that someone is trying to kill them 24 hours a day. It will go the way of the Terror Alert System (people just won't pay attention to it anymore.)
Hey, Atrios:
NY Times: "The president would say that he relied on his ''gut'' or his ''instinct'' to guide the ship of state, and then he ''prayed over it.''
So I guess it's not a doctrine, it's the "Bush Latrine"!
,
Bush is campaigning like victory is imminent, he is going for the landslide.
Yeah, and the crazy guy on the street corner last week with a sign that said the world would end last Friday was also "campaigning like victory was imminent".
He is going to states that have been Democratic strongholds for decades. Kerry is desperate, still trying to convince his own base, wasting time in states he should have locked up months ago.
Anonymous
Yeah, don't bother to think about why our "popular wartime preznit" is behind in several polls and out campaigning for his political life. The truth that Bush is going to lose this election might make your pea brain explode.
sgo-supadubya was great!! Played it loud and loved it!
Out on a limb, watch out, I'm calling it right here and now:
Kerry in a LANDSLIDE.
That simple.
"So if John Kerry had been in charge, maybe the Soviet Union would still be in business," the vice president said.
Yes, and if I were Queen of the Universe, maybe cats would have the right to vote?
I mean, how desperate is Cheney that he's referencing back to Big Red?
Attention Okies.
Vote for Carson but voice your displeasure:
http://www.livejournal.com/
users...031.html#cutid1
Downwind from the cotton candy, the caramel apples and the deep-fried Oreos, carnival worker Robert Weaver stepped into a mobile dentist's office on the state fair midway to pay the price for his love of sweets: three pulled teeth.
RC, thanks so much for reminding me I need adult diapers to read some of the HI-Larious posts here.
Farkin deep fried Oreos? Sweet Jeebus, I love fried food, but there are limits.
I'm sure the Big Dog's vet is keeping him on a very, very short leash, and probably didn't even want him out of earshot to begin with. Philly is probably as far as he'd allow him to fly...
dave
Today's Albuquerque Urinal, um Journal, said Clinton is supposed to spend next weekend in New Mexico, places and times to be announced, Kerry here in ABQ on Tuesday...
Bush calls the program "No Tooth Left Behind".
oooooooooh the Russians are coming
The Russians are coming.......
I knew the reds were dead when they let
Patrick Swayze kick their sorry asses
in Red Dawn.
Is Cheney gonna unveil the dreaded Boggie Man™next week?
Kerry/Edwards In A LANDSLIDE!!
more from byrd:
[...]
"Also, consider this Constitution and the oath I have taken this many times to support and defend the Constitution of the United States. This Constitution provides for adequate oversight. It gives the Congress the power, the oversight. This bill will, to a considerable extent, take away that power. I am not seeking to undermine the intelligence reforms proposed by the Governmental Affairs Committee. I seek only to ensure that the Congress retain its oversight functions in intelligence and national security matters. We owe it to the people who had faith and confidence in us and who sent us here. "
[...]
"We owe it to the victims of the September 11 attack and their families to get these reforms straight and to take time to study and debate them. Why not take more time? It would be a sad legacy if the suffering of these victims of the September 11 attack, it would be a sad legacy if their suffering and loss resulted not in the strengthening but in the weakening of our national security and intelligence service, leaving more Americans vulnerable to a terrorist attack. In summary, it is a critical mistake to hand to an unelected intelligence chief nearly unfettered budget transfer authority. We are handing off the ability to exercise oversight. When we do that, we cannot determine whether congressional intent for the people's tax dollars has been met. We will not know about transfers until some time, perhaps, after the fact. Millions of dollars--nay, billions of dollars--could be moved around at the discretion of one man, an unelected figure, with no one the wiser. Resources could be switched from one area of the world to another area of the globe at the discretion of one man. Secret operations could be funded without the prior knowledge of any Member of Congress at the discretion of one man. This is one-man rule. Intelligence could be manipulated by one man, with discretion concerning where to take away secret resources and where to add them. Absolute power, Senators just heard, corrupts absolutely, and the United States is about to aid and abet that truism. Senators, Republicans and Democrats, we will rue the day when, because of rushing and posturing and hurrying, we created a spy chief with such awesome power."
Waitress bring some Garlic Bread
and a baked potato 'cause it's good for my head
october surprise #3234
Isreal bombs Iranian nuke sites.
Bush supports action.
Kerry is left mumbling support for isreal,
effectively neutralizing him on "Bush is
getting foreign policy all wrong".
Bush gains just enough credibility back to win.
plausible?
"So if John Kerry had been in charge, maybe the Soviet Union would still be in business," the vice president said."
Well,hell -- why stop there?
If John Kerry had been in charge, maybe Russia would still have a Czar.
If John Kerry had been in charge, maybe the South would have won the Civil War.
If John Kerry had been in charge, maybe Dorothy would still be stuck in Oz.
If John Kerry had been in charge, maybe Shemp would have been everybody's favorite Stooge.
And my personal favorite...
If John Kerry had been in charge, maybe a presidential daily briefing entitled "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US" would have ACTUALLY BEEN READ AND ACTED ON BY THE FUCKING PRESIDENT!!!!
But that's just me...
Why are we pussy-footing around the real issue: Bush is dumber than a bag of dryer lint! He is a hollow little man being lead around by the deaf and dumb. All of you neo-cons on this board need to admit that Iraq was a big fucking mistake. Not only did the U.S. not find any WMDs, but we made Al-Qaida stronger by driving Zarqawi into a unholy alliance with Bin Laden. Does Bush not know who the imminent threat is or does he simply not want to know? We're in a real mess and we need the "adults" to get us out. I think a war time president needs to have served in war time and that's why I'm voting for Kerry.
Bigvic,
Deep fried Oreos t'ain't nothin' compared to what they eat in Scotland: deep fried Snickers bars.
The thing that gets me at state fairs is fried dough. I mean, it's a slab of dough . . . that's fried. That's it! Sprinkle some powdered sugar on it and bob's yer uncle. A giant zeppoli. Beignet. Whatever.
Never acquired the taste, thank the lawd.
Has anyone looked at the business tax overhaul that Mr. Bush quietly signed late Friday on Air Force One.
It may do more damage to the American economy than the 2002 tax cut and the Iraq war combined.
We should congratulate ourselves about Sinclair. But the real damage is caused by Mr. Bush's economic pornography.
Like the traditional Friday night document dumps, there has not been much in the news about this. Perhaps we should focus on this.
...and if Kerry was President on 9-11, we'd still be singing "God Save the Queen"!
"knew the reds were dead when they let
Patrick Swayze kick their sorry asses
in Red Dawn."
Red Dawn & Starship Troopers......Oscar material
Fried Dough, a.k.a. Fry Bread, a.k.a. donuts.
Mmmmm.
Steve F, thanks for that bit of history on Millar....he's also the guy who brought New England the Cowboy Up mantra from last year. And, after this years win against the Yankees to clinch the ACLS series, I heard him on the radio talking about how the Red Sox have a great "controlled" swagger on and off the field. I started to barf because I immediately associated his words and actions with something Dubya would say and act.
Now normally, I am not against anything Texan or southern or anything having to do with swaggers, but due to my stong aversion to Cowboy Texan swaggering Dubya, this native New Englander and Red Sox fan was really turned off by it all. So I agree if there has to be a Bill Buckner award...Millar sounds like a great candidate for it.
Yes, sorry, make that:
Kerry/Edwards in a LANDSLIDE.
"The can't mess with a lanslide."
-Arianna H.
>I was told there might be kitties
That's right! There was talk of kitties. Kitties, please.
Not just death and destruction! War that has no cost, war that will never, never use anyone who doesn't volunteer, war that will cost no money, and have no consequences at home. All we have to do on the home front is believe, believe, believe. And play "follow the flag" on our world maps.
Anyone who says a word about the costs is "with the terrorists."
A pleasure to have you back, sir.
Thx, Vic.
Wasn't Bush supposed to take today off? What happened?
Right,
The(y) can't mess with a landslide."
-Arianna H.
Anonymous 7:56 was me...
Monic A,
I might not be a genius, and I am trying not to take it personally, but as a member of the lint clan I might suggest
another less animate object to compare
Dubya's intelligence to.
Thanks in advance.
Kerry/Edwards In A LANDSLIDE!!
Mooser,
And keep shopping!
Dick Cheney needs to get out of his bunker more, he's sounding like an old re-run of Rocky and Bullwinkle.
If John Kerry had been in charge, maybe a presidential daily briefing entitled "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US" would have ACTUALLY BEEN READ AND ACTED ON BY THE FUCKING PRESIDENT!!!!
Roddy, you make perfect sense. Could you spread some of that to some moronic Red States?
there will be no landslide...
what you will witness will be the most monstrous voting fraud in the history of the usa. will make tammany hall and richard daly and lbj look amateurish...
the latest:
Ohio Provisional Ballot Ruling Reversed
2 minutes ago
CINCINNATI - A federal appeals court on Saturday ruled to reverse a lower court's ruling that Ohio voters could cast provisional ballots on Election Day anywhere in the county in which they are registered.
AP Photo
The 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals (news - web sites) ruled that a provisional ballot cast outside a voter's home precinct isn't valid, agreeing with Ohio Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell.
Federal law allows people to get provisional ballots if they are in the right jurisdiction. Blackwell, a Republican, defines that as a precinct, while Democrats say it's the voter's county.
The state's Democrats had filed a lawsuit challenging Blackwell's directive instructing county elections boards not to give ballots to voters who come to the wrong precinct and to send them to the correct polling place on Election Day.
U.S. District Judge James Carr on Oct. 14 blocked the directive, ruling that Ohio voters who show up at the wrong polling place still can cast ballots as long as they are in the county where they are registered.
Blackwell appealed to the 6th Circuit.
Can anyone else get onto Tucker's blog? I can't access it.
That massive tax cut for the corporate elite is a whopper of a bill.Fuck the poor while letting corporations get all the money they can get.
Its like going in a grocery store with an empty shopping cart and filling it as quick as you can for free.
American kids and us will be paying for this give away for generations.
Junior has cooked the goose and the rich are eating for all its worth.
I am sick over this law and now theres nothing to be done except pay the bill.
How American!
.
Has anyone heard the rumors that Bush is about to launch a massive strike against Iran's nuclear facilities? Is this some kind of hoax or is it for real? http://www.lebanonwire.com/0410/.../
04102002LW.asp
Watertiger,you haven't lived until you've eaten a freshly fried Funnel Cake. There's just something so sexy about deep-fried Bisquick batter smothered in powdered sugar burning its way down your esophagus. Sexsaaaay!
yeah, thanks Darth Cheney, dear GOD please DELIVER us from PEACE!!!
Isreal bombs Iranian nuke sites. plausible?
I don't think so. From what I've read, there are going to be one or two more rounds of diplomacy before the bombing commences. The Israelis are too smart to do it before the election, they would immediately be slapped down by Europe. I'm sure they really don't want to tangle with a nuclear power like Iran (let's face it: they have nukes) before an election with so many unknowns.
After the election, if Bush wins...that's another story.
patriotdude, it was fun messing with sucker eskew's blog - they musta pulled it down to clear out the bad bad liburals and heathens from the comments section ... ROFL
and this guys organization specializes in editorial exactitude and message discipline for chrissakes? more ROFL
what a bunch of idiots
No problem, bigvic - go change the depends. You're gonna need a dry set before the night's out. 
http://tinyurl.com/53fn4
It's humor night at Eschaton.
I'm sorry, Dryer Lint! Hmmmm, how about...no, might offend the bag of hair clan. Ooh, I know! How about a fabric softner sheet?
shit, I hope Ohio Dems appeal that to a higher court. how much voter fraud has to occur before 1) the press mentions it, as a purely REPUBLICAN issue, or 2) we declare WAR.
???
what is this shit??? thrownig ballots out, taking absentee ballots by impersonating election officials, harassing elderly black people at home, leaving Dem challenger's names off of ballots entirely? All of this at once, and NOBODY is giving it coverage??? When Kerry enters the white house, there needs to be a purge of local election boards and journalists. not like a killing people purge, just a "you're fired cause you SUCK" type...
hunter - damn, there was some great stuff there.
Monica A,
At least funnel cakes have spaces in 'em! I ate those when I was a teen cruising the shopping malls in Jersey (alas, the truth will out). But a hunk of 12" x 4" dough makes my arteries throw up their little hands and shriek in horror.
And didn't Iran just endorse Bush for prissydunce? I'm having some sort of disconnect here.
homepage didn't work.
here is the link for the byrd speech.
Apropos of Sen. Robert Byrd...if you all haven't read his latest book, "Losing America" it is a MUST read. This is a man who cares about what America stood for before Bush/Cheney loused everything up for all of us.
ohio is this year's florida .. which makes florida this year's afghanistan
Is Yassir Arafat about to croak?
Emergency team of doctors arrive to attend Arafat
Six Tunisian doctors arrived in Ramallah Saturday night amid growing concern for the health of Palestinian Authority Chairman Yasser Arafat.
The 75-year-old Arafat has been reported unwell for more than a week, supposedly with a severe flu. But the dramatic request to Israel to grant permission for a medical examination by the Tunisian specialists has heightened speculation about the severity of his illness.
Oh, it's back up and it looks like all the comments are still there.
Richard,
Vry funny. I know I need a fresh bag of depends when both you and Jesus' General are in the house.
Okay-little pick-me-up for ya. . .
I live in Houston and I went to early vote on Monday morning, the very first hours they were open. Who should appear to cast their votes alongside the "commoners", but George I and Babs. We were asked by a poll worker if we would mind if they decided to rush them along in line ahead of all of us. The older woman next to me gave valiant, but understandably worthless protest. "Yes, we do mind." I offered that we knew we didn't really have a choice, but thanked him for asking. Not sure why, (maybe the obviously lame applause when they entered) they decided to wait in line, not to affect anyone's vote, mind you. Here's where it gets really interesting. When they finished and were leaving, they were supposed to hold a press conference out front of the polling place. Ladies and Gents, in Houston, TX, there were so many Kerry supporters out that they had to cancel the press conference and whisk them away. I kid you not.
Kerry/Edwards in a LANDSLIDE.
Don't it make a red state blue. . . . .
there will be no landslide...
Bullshit. Like no one thought that might be a possible outcome.
The Dems are prepared, and the election is 10 days away.
Good grief.
Somewhat OT -
I have a dear friend whose family came here as refugees from war-torn Lebanon. All 6 kids were educated and worked hard in the "American Dream". They were a good, strong, happy and productive family. Totally law-abiding, paid their taxes, had social security numbers, reported to the courts and Justice Departments every year for the finger prints and such and they followed all the rules and laws pertaining to their status here. For almost 18 years they sought counsel and then watched their money drained by immigration lawyers, always with the false hope that their green cards would be granted soon.
Six months after 9/11 -federal authorities and police came to their home in the early morning hours, handcuffed and arrested them (between 30 and 40 years old) while yelling and terrorizing their sickly parents, and put the kids in maximum security prisons. The parents were not allowed to see them and they were NEVER told the reason why they were arrested. No representation or court appearance of any form was allowed. All of their assets (home, cars, bank accounts - all legal) were taken from them without any reason given. All their neighbors and friends tried desparately through media and such to fight this "insanity" to no avail. Only after the US (FBI, Justice, etc..) completed their "investigation" six months later were they taken straight from prison and put on planes to Lebanon without cause. One month later the parents were sent home to Lebanon. Absolutely no reason, no paperwork, no commentary was given regarding their deportation. To this day they still do not know what they did wrong or why they were deported.
My friend was not with her family that day but living here in CA with her husband and children. She has spent every waking moment in fear - afraid to leave her home and frightened to death that she would be taken from her children. After the work of many, many friends here - lawyers, judges and immigration advocates and after almost 2 years of hiding, she has just informed that she may finally have her green card. Why do I share this story???
I witnessed first hand what I thought was only possible in Nazi Germany or a dictatorship. Oh yes, please make no mistake about it, Cheney, Bush, Ashcroft and Neocons all are evil people to be taken quite seriously and not laughed at as clowns.
My full blown contempt of this Administration began on that day and only increased in time. My patriotic naiveness also ended then when I realized for the first time that our freedoms and rights are not guaranteed but are quite open to infringement and subterfuge. If you had any doubts about casting a vote for John Kerry, please think of my friends and then multiply the numbers. I am sure that such events happended for many others as well over these past 3 years. Their (Bushistas) way of life must be voted out now!!!
The 75-year-old Arafat has been reported unwell for more than a week, supposedly with a severe flu.
Yeah, I bet that's where our tainted flu vaccine went.
We all know that BushCo is trying to game the swing states, but jeebus, they need to be a bit more subtle in their practice runs.
http://tinyurl.com/6zqfh
Look out for those South Philly districts that the judge wouldn't move for the GOP last week.
"...taking absentee ballots by impersonating election officials, harassing..."
Too true, again, today's Albuquerque Urinal, reports of a man knocking on doors, saying he's from the Governor's office, and asking for the absentee ballot the homeowner received so he can turn them in.
Take 10 minutes between now and election day and ask yourself how far you are willing to go to protect and preserve our democracy.
No really--how far? Because they're going to try everything--every thing--to keep it. Remember, we witnessed a bloodless coup last election, and we have allowed ourselves to be ruled by an unelected fool.
Have you seen 1 single Republican speak out against the documented election-stealing going on now across the country? Just 1?
This crowd has already proved quite capable of allowing the 9/11 mass murder and creating the Iraq quagmire and still have nearly half the country believing their bullshit. What else do you think they're capable of?
But even more importantly, are you ready to fight for democracy with all you have? If not, don't worry, there won't even been an election in '08. They won't even have to pretend by then.
Kick ass, take names. No one is forgiven aften we win this one.
Oh, yeah. Go Sox!
Remember...Manthrax Coulter only exists 2 dimensionally in our reality and pi(es) approached "her" null dimension side.
I have to admit I throughly enjoyed watching her scamper on those 2D stick legs like a Team America marionette...I kept typing HA, HA, HA into my voice encoder.
Can anyone else get onto Tucker's blog? I can't access it.
Went down for me too.
I guess thats a good thing as my head was about to explode.
Dam the right is mighty confused.
Guess all that fear mongering has gotten to their cognative skills
Hmm, I'm having a tinfoil hat moment: what if Arafat "dies" on Monday? What is that is the October Foreign Policy Surprise?
Oh dear, I wouldn't want to sully my beautiful mind with such a thought.
Monica A
LOL, nice riposte.
Kerry/Edwards In A LANDSLIDE!!
Wasn't Bush supposed to take today off? What happened?
They got a look at his polling numbers and they're trying to avoid humiliation?
Cheney said Kerry recently contended that the United States must pass "some kind of global test before we could take military action
You mean the global test Bush uses as an excuse for invading Iraq....'The whole world thought he had WMD'.
what if Arafat "dies" on Monday?
Damn. We grassy knoll theorists all think alike.
That was my first thought when I read the post on Arafat. That could get real ugly real quick.
The next target on the Repugnate-cans' radar is the ability to deduct home mortgage interest. I hear it's already been written up, and it's in debate. They'll hit us with that long before they lower/abolish the minimum wage.
From the Petard Hoisting Department:
House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, increasing his local visibility in the face of ethics complaints and with an election just 11 days away, said in Houston on Friday that Democrats are vilifying him.
"I've never had a campaign where the entire nation has tried to destroy my name," DeLay said. "They are going after me in the most personal and vindictive way. It's gutter politics."
On Thursday DeLay was subpoenaed to testify in a lawsuit alleging he abused his power during last year's fight over congressional redistricting. His attorney filed a motion Friday asking a state district judge in Austin to throw out the subpoena, and DeLay said the deposition will not move forward.
"This is trying to criminalize politics," he said.
Squeal, piggy.
I just pulled up Tucker's
page and made sure to save the comments for posterity. Still up as of now.
Kerry/Edwards In A LANDSLIDE!!
So if John Kerry had been in charge, maybe the Soviet Union would still be in business
They just opened for business again. Thanks to the Orwellian model provided by Bush.
Too true, again, today's Albuquerque Urinal, reports of a man knocking on doors, saying he's from the Governor's office, and asking for the absentee ballot the homeowner received so he can turn them in.
I lived in ABQ when Pete Domenici was mayor.
So, nothing's changed, huh?
Hermes, as much as I'd love to see that, it was from the 2000 election.
If John Kerry had been in charge, maybe a presidential daily briefing entitled "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US" would have ACTUALLY BEEN READ AND ACTED ON BY THE FUCKING PRESIDENT!!!!
Yes indeed, Roddy.
Out on a limb, watch out, I'm calling it right here and now:
Kerry in a LANDSLIDE.
Actually, as I've posted here before, Mr. Kate has been saying "Kerry in a landslide" ever since February. If he's right, he's going to be doing one spectacular Snoopy dance.
Me? I'm the designated worrier (a genetic thing, maternal side). But I'm feeling more happily (still cautiously) excited every day.
I've been phoning swinger states for President Kerry all week and I'm telling ya', they ain't swingin'. It's so farkin' over for Chimpy. You cannot tell me the media doesn't see the huge movement away from the incompetent, frighteningly bigoted B/C team. I think they keep up the pretence for news filler.
There are some dumb people in this country, but not that many. Can't wait to get this country back into sane hands.
Hermes,
This is from the same rag that brought you such headlines (before it went "straight") as:
24 pound baby born to 4' Mom
Nostradamus' Predictions Reveal Who Killed Jimmy Hoffa
Family of Cats Rewrite "Ulysses"
Oh, and while I'm not ordinarily a prude, the thought of Shrub making "passionate love" gives me the heebeejeebees.
So the right wing blogs are buzzing about this washington times story supposedly on mondays front page....they say it will be the end of kerry....
some one tell me not to worry.
old Hat, i know i'm late responding, but I don't know whether to bless or curse you for your nomination. I agree of course that there's no bigger fuckup in the world, but as I said, I'm trying not to get my hopes up about the sox. The election of course, is in the bag. Kerry/Edwards Landslide!
Call Tucker an ax him what semen tastes like...heh, heh, heh.
(703) 549-0330
Don't know if anyone mentioned this on an earlier thread, but I just saw the funniest promo on Bravo. Scenes of warfare with a voiceover (paraphrasing): "The president lied to the American public and involved the U.S. military in a secret war. . ."
Then the action on screen freezes and the voiceover says "Just kidding, it's only a movie! Watch Harrison Ford in Clear and Present Danger . . ." I about pissed myself.
I know Bravo obviously skews left, but I still like to see them picking up the "lying to the American public" parallel.
watertiger,
I consider myslf sicker than most, but
you just killed what remained of my
beautiful mind. LOL
Kerry/Edwards In A LANDSLIDE!!
Jim Bunning [R-Ky] in a news conference:
Zain,
The Times is a moonie rag, birds won't
crap on it if you try to line their
cages with the thing.
Kerry/Edwards In A LANDSLIDE!!
washington times
Yeah, I'm worried. Parakeets living inside the beltway could be traumatized by the lining in their cages the day after.
It could be a birdkill of biblical proportions.
"Take 10 minutes between now and election day and ask yourself how far you are willing to go to protect and preserve our democracy."
I've been doing that for months. I'm ready to fight and die for America -- not the real estate, but the principles. I don't think it comes to that, though. Sure, it might. But I don't think it will.
Instead, I think we're going to have to take a lot of cues from Martin Luther King's playbook. We're going to have to take to the streets en masse -- not to control them, but to block them. We're going to have to risk and even invite mass arrest -- clog the jails, clog the courts, clog the system.
We're going to have to follow the lead of Thoreau -- and refuse to underwrite the cost of our own oppression. You know what I'm talking about. Here again we're talking about jail. Here again, we have to do it on a scale that clogs the machine.
If we can't stop the bastards, we can sure as hell make 'em have to work for it.
And we're going to have to build on what we did with Sinclair. I'm not sure we can claim that as a success -- they aired their bullshit, after all. But we showed our displeasure through the one medium they cannot ignore -- the money. They always count the dollars, even as they're losing the votes.
So by all means, load up on guns, clubs and knives. But remember that's what they're expecting. Remember they think physical force solves all problems. They're not ready for the sheer goddam orneriness of the average American.
And their going to find out what the last batch of fascists found out the hard way: You underestimate the average American at your own peril.
We will bear any cost. But they are the ones who will ultimately be made to pay.
Jim Bunning [R-Ky] in a news conference:
So the right wing blogs are buzzing about this washington times story supposedly on mondays front page....they say it will be the end of kerry....
some one tell me not to worry.
Oooh, the galdiator movie watchers over at FreeRepublic are oiling themselves up in preparation for the super reputable Moonie Times dropping a "bombshell" that "could be the end of" Kerry? Gee, I'm can barely type I'm trembling so much.
How should I put this?
Hmm.
How about "don't worry"?
Oh, and while I'm not ordinarily a prude, the thought of Shrub making "passionate love" gives me the heebeejeebees.
Pussy.
Jim Bunning [R-Ky] in a news conference:
Bob Novak gave the finger to Tom Davis (R) VA tonight on Capital Gang. Anyone have a TiVo of this? My wife and I both saw it. It was in the segment on polls, I think. What a sacko. Troubled times for Rethugs. How much has Davis taken from BugmanPAC?
3 run dinger for Ortiz!!!
The next target on the table.
Cheney's attempt to slam Kerry for voting against the first Gulf War is getting really annoying. That senate vote was 52-47. Lots of people thought it was a bad idea, or we should wait. (Hell, I don't know what their reasons were...)
Sure it was over quickly, and ended up making Bush 41 popular for a while, but that was only after it was over. These bastards want to rewrite every bit of history, don't they?
Bob Novak gave the finger to Tom Davis (R) VA tonight on Capital Gang.
OMG. Dish. What happened? What was the context?
When reporters told him that the unit's refusal was a national news story and involved a soldier from Louisville, Bunning said, "Let me explain something: I don't watch the national news, and I don't read the paper. I haven't done that for the last six weeks. I watch Fox News to get my information."
http://tinyurl.com/4bcbc
Sorry, it wouldn't show up!!
ORTIZ DOES IT AGAIN!!
Red Sox 3 Red Birds 0 ( in the First)
GO SOX GO!!!
It was over quickly, and ended up making bush 41 popular for a news conference with visiting u.
Nope,
Polls are NOT exact results based on the actual sample of people called. First, they ask a bunch of biased questions to narrow them down to "likely" voters. Then they use some more biased statistics to "weight" the results based on their assumptions of actual voter party identification. Ruy Teixeira's Donkey Rising blog gets into these details. I believe it was Mark Twain who said it: "There's lies, damn lies, and statistics."
pie (and kent),
Oh, like you didn't go there?
All I could see was Shrub "riding herd", slapping his thigh, and yelling "Yeeee-HAW! Go, Rangers!"
And I can't really see Laura enjoying herself these days, now that she's been lobotomized.
Big Dog? Now that's a different story.
How should I put this?
Hmm.
How about "don't worry"?
Old Hat
That's right, my brother. The Wash Times will probably headline pic of Kerry giving a speech with a big cloud that has Satan revealing hisself to the world. World Weekly News regularly prints these.
Kerry must be in wit' de ol' debbil.
Much as I love our gracious host and don't wish to further imbalance the ratio of posts against him, I feel compelled to repeat a point from the post below. And at risk of tooting my own horn, I feel rather proud of the fact that despite staying up late trying to make sense of tech support which apparently has been outsourced to the planet Moonbat, I was able to come up with a spiffing new description for Bush supporters;
From here on in, I would be extremely flattered if it would catch on to describe them as "chasing the powdered chimp"
For example;
Trolls: You suck dood, that's not funny!
You: Few things are when you've chased the powdered chimp as much as you have. Fight the monkey on your back, maaaaan!
Roddy McCorley =Spook
Political chatter...important issue
Political chatter...important issue
what, did I read something about fried food?
AWESOME!
Fried oreos and snickers, though?
I thought all fried food went well with ranch...maybe not those.
I saw the show, not the finger - could it have been when Tom Davis concurred that Iowa early voting has been 3-1 Dem? He seemed quick to accept that.
Make that
Red Sox 4 Red Birds 0
WOO HOO
washington times
Yeah, I'm worried. Parakeets living inside the beltway could be traumatized by the lining in their cages the day after.
It could be a birdkill of biblical proportions.
Dang, if I didn't soil a perfectly fresh adult diaper. I have two parakeets (Blue and Angel) and I will not abuse them in this mannor.
October surprise?
http://tinyurl.com/636le
Wife and I were talking, and missed what Davis said. Camera was on Davis, and Count Toothula stuck his hand with the finger into the shot in front of Davis. Anyone tape this thing?
Did everyone read the Kerry interview in the latest Rolling Stone?
Most of it's fluff, but the last few questions on the Swift Boat Liars was very angry (in a smoldering fire kind of way) and very on point.
So the right wing blogs are buzzing about this washington times story supposedly on mondays front page....they say it will be the end of kerry....
READ source "Washington Times"
Repeat after me...
RIGHT WING HACK PAPER
Oh and patriotboy, did you get back in or did they Zap your IP?
Old Hat,
I didn't get a chance to say thanks for the help last night with the link to the Win back respect ad.
My best friend had a seizure and I had to take him to the vet. (He's OK) You were gone by the time I got back, so belated thanks.
RC, jinx, owe me coke.
Yours was funnier though.
Kerry/Edwards In A LANDSLIDE!!
If Novakula is flipping people off on national TV (okay, I know it's just the Conservative Nut Network, but still), that's a great sign.
Probably two things:
1. Rethugs like Novakula are terrified of the way this election is starting to shape up, and
2. Novakula is feeling the heat from the Plame thing getting a little closer to his well-hidden coffin.
Heh.
Thanks people, you see im in london, so while i know that the Washington times is rightist i didnt know that it was disreputable...we get "the Macglaughlin group" on cnbc on which tony blankly appears- he writes for the WT so i assumed......
Wow! Thanks for the story about George I and Babs -- amazing.
More anecdotal evidence: I was shopping today and the receptionist at the furniture store said, "I like your button; that's who I'm voting for." I did my usual "Are you registered and do you know where to go to vote?" routine and then got into a discussion w/ her. She's had 3 friends killed in Iraq. This is a young African American woman in Alexandria, VA. It hit me that I don't know anyone who's been killed in Iraq. This truly is a war for the poor and middle class of this country.
I swear you'd be surprised what just wearing a Kerry button can do -- it's really a good conversation starter. If we can stop them from stealing Florida and Ohio, Kerry will win.
Some one say CATBLOGGING?
That's right, my brother. The Wash Times will probably headline pic of Kerry giving a speech with a big cloud that has Satan revealing hisself to the world. World Weekly News regularly prints these.
People at DemocraticUnderground.com already figured out what the Washington Times story is supposed to be about.
So, the "scandal" is actually nothing. Absolutely. Nothing.
Jesus, don't the freepers have better dirt on Kerry than this? Pathetic.
Any Austinites on the boards? I just read my email and learned that our upstanding local rag, the Austin American Statesman, is endorsing Bush, as the best man for perilous times, despite his flaws. It shouldn't make a difference to me - the Statesman is often a joke, but it is pretty upsetting. I cannot tell you their logic because I cannot stand to read it yet. There is a protest planned tomorrow at high noon on the Congress Avenue Bridge.
Novakula is feeling the heat from the Plame thing getting a little closer to his well-hidden coffin.
Oh, please! Oh, please! Oh, please! Oh, please! Pretty please, with sugar on top?
Ok, I know it was a bad idea to begin with, but, what can I say, I was curious... so, I browsed around on the freeper boards for awhile, just to get their perspective. I thought, who knows? Maybe they have something to say that I didn't know or hadn't considered. Well, I went, and... Wow. Those people are nucking futz. I really had the idea in my head that sometimes maybe we weren't any different from them, but they are really crazy. Scary scary stuff. I need to go wash my brain with clorox bleach.
Jeepers H. Christmas! Are you guys being serious about BoB the traitor giving *the finger* to a guest? I'm serious.
AN-
I read that on the other thread and meant to give you a standing "O"! but got distracted.
I'll be trying to work it in!
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My best friend had a seizure and I had to take him to the vet. (He's OK) You were gone by the time I got back, so belated thanks.
No problem. Good to hear your homeboy is OK.
Is he the dog who's voting for Kerry? Were you posting pictures of him? Or was that someone else?
These bastards want to rewrite every bit of history, don't they?
Jeebus, everyone wants a legacy these days.
Anyone catch the video of George DeButcher flying into (I think it was) Jax stadium today with the theme from "Top Gun" blaring?
Danger zone, indeed.
If 60% of the vote or greater goes to Kerry, it'll suck the hot air out of even the Faux bobbleheads.
Back to Big Time Dick attacks on the US if Kerry wins.
You know, between the Wrepublican war chest and the Iraq qWagmire, Bu$hCo has funneled one helluva lot of money into private security/ intelligence/ mercenary firms.
Often these firms are run by ex-CIA and Special Forces men.
They've had a ripe recruiting ground in the Middle East.
Let's not forget what ex-Company men and republican partisans in the CIA and Defense departments did to Jimmy Carter.
We are going to be in business for a long time yet defusing this $yndicate, people.
Let's hope the Plame grand jury doesn't indict anybody until after Kerry gets sworn in- if we can get one of these thugs to give state's evidence, we might hammer the whole crooked crew.
artnoize,
If that is it, then I would say that Shrub is more desparate than anyone could have believed.
That is the most ridiculous ploy ever.
Then again, Shrub's father did the same thing, after the election with Somalia.
So maybe this is a big "Fuck You" to Kerry winning the election.
Lest anyone doubt that James Maynard Keenan is the most brilliant bastard in music today, I offer the following lyrics - a big shout out to all the "faith based" Bush voters out there:
The Noose
So glad to see you well
Overcome and completely silent now
With heaven's help
You cast your demons out
And not to pull your halo down
Around your neck and tug you off your cloud
But I'm more than just a little curious
How you're plannin' to go about makin' your amends
To the dead
To the dead
Recall the deeds as if they're all
Someone else's
Atrocious stories
Now you stand reborn
Before us all
So glad to see you well
And not to pull your halo down
Around your neck and tug you to the ground
But I'm more than just a little curious
How you're plannin' to go about makin' your amends
To the dead
To the dead
With your halo slippin' down
Your halo slippin'
Your halo slippin' down
Your halo slippin' down
Your halo slippin' down
(I'm more than just a little curious
How you're plannin' to go about makin' your amends)
[repeated]
Your halo slippin' down
Your halo slippin' down to choke you now
My jaw just dropped when I listened to this CD - still replay it almost every day. IMO, once of the top 100 ever.
Of course, if Backslider is in here, gotta ask what you think ...
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Is he the dog who's voting for Kerry?
No, but that's a great idea. He's up about 20 IQ points on your average freeper, and a whole lot better looking.
Just received word that the Austin American-Statesman, one of the most wretched newspapers in the country, will endorse Il Dunce on Sunday.
We cannot stand for this. Meet us at high noon (sharp!) on the Congress Ave Bridge with your favorite shirts and favorite signs.
We need as many people as possible. Drag everyone you know along. If you were at the Flash Mob on Friday, you know how powerful we all are TOGETHER.
Please show up, and bring your walking shoes and your dialing fingers.
We will be distributing maps and leafletting walklists with leaflets as well as phone lists to call. We will be distributing both from the site (look for Glen's orange Element) and also walklists from 512 E. Riverside Suite 203 immediately afterwards and throughout the rest of today and the rest of the week.. If you would like to phone and do not want to get a list from us, go to 701 Rio Grande. We need to do everything we can to COUNTERACT this travesty, and the best way to do so is by hands-on activity in the streets. We need to stand up and fight back.
Why Philly? In a nutshell, motivating the African-American vote across the country. If there's been any kind of weakness to Kerry's campaign, it's w/r/t/ speaking directly to minorities rather than to issues that affect minorities, and Clinton has that talent.
The Big Dog has to ration his appearances, but this one will be like the loaves and fishes.
So maybe this is a big "Fuck You" to Kerry winning the election.
David (Austin Tx) | Email | Homepage | 10.23.04 - 8:48 pm | #
It is more like pouring gasoline on all the little muslim fires.
This is the unthinkable. I hope it's just our propaganda [which is what the righties would say].
http://tinyurl.com/636le
I have this bad feeling that when Kerry wins the media is not going to let up on their rightwing shilling. First they are going to help drag out the legal shit that's bound to come. Then they are probably going to lead the hunting of the president again.
I hope Kerry appoints some really smart people for the FCC.
And don't you just feel the whole Bushista house of cards falling down these past few days? Reminds me of the Tories in '97 in Britain, when it still looked close to the masses, but even Major knew he was going down.
RC, jinx, owe me coke.
Kent, sorry, I'm just doing coffee tonight. Try ChimpyMcCokespoon@whitehouse.gov - he might be able to hook you up.
HAHAHAHA!!!
If this rumour is really based on Jerome COrsi this could get very funny Corsi is known in the uk as a racist and anti-semit
If you were at the Flash Mob on Friday, you know how powerful we all are TOGETHER.
Thanks for reminding me.What happened to Sinclair?Did the boycott work?Did it stop the propoganda?How did the news media react?
I quit watching the "news" so I am at a loss.Ap wasnt reporting it so I am in a black hole here.
abd, that's an awesome story! Wish it got more play in the SCLM.
Aethern, I checked out a couple of winger sites this AM. It's getting ugly over there -- talk about shrill! Freaking out about the librul media and turning on each other in comments. It was a beautiful sight.
re: the Iran October Surprise thing.
If so, having Condi away from DC, shilling for her boss, is going to look even dumber. That's your first counter.
RC
Kerry/Edwards In A LANDSLIDE!!
May I strongly recommend the follow site (Dr. Hunter S. Thompson on 'Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail 2004,' and the "weak and dumb" W. Bush):
www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/_/id/6562575?
pageid=rs.Home&pageregion=single7&
rnd=1098577962765&has-
player=true&version=6.0.8.1024
(note: that's all one, long address that I "separated" in an attempt not to mess up this page)
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WRT the Statesman endorsing Bush:
No big surprise.
It was expected.
The editorial board is pro-Kerry, the owners are pro-Bush.
That left the decision to Richard Oppel.
Seeing as he is anti-environment, anti-tax, anti-everything that the rest of Austin supports, it is unsurprising that he said endorse Bush.
Mebbe the Wash Times will reveal the devastating story that Kerry has a lightning bolt birthmark on his penis similar to the one Gorbachev sported on his head.
That would be the dick-head Commie connection the idiot troll was referring to a thread or two ago. Now that would be bad for Kerry. heh...heh...heh...
Depressed Austinite...
I live about an hour to the north..Austin American Stateman was always my main paper. Once upon a time Austin was the liberal center of Texas and the Statesman was terrific....now its just the center, and corporate. We still have a few good things left..some of the columns not to mention a great political cartoonist. But, still!!! Geez, what next, Texas Monthly endorsing Bush too???
Kelly B. - people don't have to be indicted to be pardoned (most famously Nixon and Clinton), so the timing of the indictments won't prevent Bush from taking care of a large bunch of people.
Anyone catch the video of George DeButcher flying into (I think it was) Jax stadium today with the theme from "Top Gun" blaring?
Which Bu$h would that be? Surely to Jeebus Chimp would not ignite another "Mission Accomplished"? Then, again, he is a big enough dumbass to do just that. Karl Rove as Bu$h's brain=brain dead.
I cut and pasted info on the Sinclair boss who was arrested and emailed it to advertisers with a question about 'character.' No screeching, no drama. Just facts.
I think Kerry will win fair and square but I'm worried about a faux terror alert in California, massive voter fraud, etc...etc...Some highly illegal stuff that will somehow succeed....
god I'm getting old. I remember being a teenager and volunteering for Eugene McCarthy.....
Tim McCarver is a FLAKE.
re: the Iran October Surprise thing.
If so, having Condi away from DC, shilling for her boss, is going to look even dumber. That's your first counter.
Excellent point. Rice would be in Washington if they were going to try it. The Israelis won't do it.
Yet.
I TAPED THE CAPITAL GANG...but didn't see the finger, maybe I missed, will look later....
What I find so astonishing is how the press is ignoring the elephant in the living room: the huge number of new voter registrations. Sure, they report it, with a quizzical, "Who are all these new voters? And how will they vote? I know lots of churches have registered lots..."
What nimrods.
HIGH TURNOUT FAVORS DEMS, but they have to play stupid, or offend Mr. Rove.
meanwhile Drudge is dutifully reporting that a few Bush Headquarters have been ransacked. See?
Our side is SO MEAN. Giving cover to the media who can then claim. "Both sides do it."
Today's Albuquerque Urinal, um Journal, said Clinton is supposed to spend next weekend in New Mexico, places and times to be announced, Kerry here in ABQ on Tuesday...
Wow, I am surprised... I figured his doctors were pitching a real bitch fit about him getting back into the swing of things so quick.
Go, Big Dog, go!!!
Nedra today:
``In terms of the horse race between Bush and Kerry, they are close. National polls show Bush and Kerry even, or Bush slightly ahead.''
---What Nedra Pickler FAILED TO MENTION was the Democracy Corps Poll of 10/21 and the AP Ipsos Poll of 10/20 -- that's AP as in the company Nedra WORKS FOR -- showing a Kerry lead in the national race. ----
meanwhile Drudge is dutifully reporting that a few Bush Headquarters have been ransacked. See?
Our side is SO MEAN. Giving cover to the media who can then claim. "Both sides do it."
stinky feet | Email | Homepage | 10.23.04 - 9:01 pm | #
I'm sure these were staged events, it fits the Rovian dirty tricks style
Tim McCarver is not a flake. He was Steve Carlton's designated catcher.
John F'n Kerry is a flake.
True, Chimpy could pardon everyone without any of them being indicted. But considering his belief in "following his gut insticts" and only thinking positively, without ever having a Plan B, he'll be absolutely sure nothing will happen to any of them. They'll be crying by Jan, as they pack their offices, but Chimpy won't see any need for pardons. We know better.
BUSH/CHENEY HEADQUARTERS ROBBED AND RANSACKED BY DRUGGED OUT HIPPIE ANARCHISTS.
Just a heads up for Jon Stewart on c-span in a couple min.
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just ran out for the Saturday Night New York Times and more cough medicine and decongestant.
Frank Rich, in what we refer to as the Farts & Pleasures section, has dedicated his column to Baba O'Reilly and lesbians. And I quote:
"In the annals of election year 2004, Oct. 13 will be remembered as the day it rained lesbians in red America. That was when we learned that Andrea Mackris, an associate producer on "The O'Reilly Factor," had filed her sexual harassment law suit, charging that her boss had an obsessive interest in vibrators, phone sex and, most persistently, erotic scenarios involving pairs of women. That night brought the final presidential debate, in which John Kerry's description of Mary Cheney as a lesbian so riled the Bush-Cheney campaign, not to mention the easily aghast Washington press corps, you'd have thought the vice president's daughter was accused of enlisting in a threesome with Bill O'Reilly."
I don't know which is funnier, that quote or the one he excerpts from "The O'Reilly Factor for Kids":
"And guys, if you exploit a girl, it will come back to get you. That's called 'karma.'"
Wheeeeeeeee!
Tim McCarver is not a flake.
As a sportscaster, he's a flake.
"I don't believe that God has desires. What we were taught in Catholic education is
God's ways are unknowable. The essence of the Catholic God is that God works in
mysterious ways. George W. Bush doesn't think God works in mysterious ways.
George W. Bush thinks he knows what God wants, and George W. Bush then says,
I am here to execute what God wants."
--Lawrence O'Donnell, on Scarborough Country
I'm worried about a faux terror alert in California...
Funny you should mention that - seems BART's decided now's the time to run fully-armed SWAT teams through the trains.
Makes ya wonder...
OK, I've posted on this many times before, but...
WTF is up with Texas? Is it some distant plannet? Shit! I live in a stupid state but the willingness of these folks to turn their power of reason over to fundies is astounding. I don't get it.
BBBBbbbbubbbyyya ist toasta! I like mine medium with lots'o'butter. Mmmmm,toast with butter. I'll give my bacon to Dick, it'll help with his heart.
I'm new to blogs. Will someone please explain the "troll" concept? Is a troll simply someone who expresses a view contrary to prevailing ideology of a blog? Or does a troll also have to express themselves poorly?
It seems kind of juvenile really. Please let me know if I'm wrong, sort of like a way to brand someone as "not cool enough for the club." A couple of right wingers might liven things up a bit around here.
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Big Dog? eh, I seem to remember a 5 inch viewing by Monica. Maybe the bypass'll help.
"Tim McCarver is not a flake. He was Steve Carlton's designated catcher.
John F'n Kerry is a flake."
And what the fuck is the Retard from Crawford?
people don't have to be indicted to be pardoned (most famously Nixon and Clinton),
Yeah, except Clinton was neither indicted nor pardoned. Some pedant you are.
Moer of Lawrence O'Donnell, on Scarborough Country:
LIAR!!, LIAR!!,LIAR!!,LIAR!!,LIAR!!,LIAR!!,LIAR!!,LIAR!!
,LIAR!!,LIAR!!,LIAR!!,LIAR!!,breath, LIAR!!,LIAR!!,LIAR!!,LIAR!!.
"Roddy McCorley =Spook"
Nope. just pissed. real pissed.
I'm hoping on November 3rd I can switch to decaf.
Big Dog? eh, I seem to remember a 5 inch viewing by Monica. Maybe the bypass'll help.
Yeah, I'll say.
That vibrator I crammed up my ass was frickin' huge, on the other hand. What does the Clenis™ have on me? That's right -- NOTHIN'.
Alex,
A troll is a *person* who invades a blog thread pretending to be sincere in its comments, but really tries to disrupt a lively discussion with Talking Points and ridiculous propaganda.
I guess you can spot them here.
Terry, He's the President of the United States. What's your point?
God, I love Jon Stewart!
Watching F9/11 for the first time with the family.
Even though I know most of it, it's still unbelievable to see all the various interviews and footage. My husband and daughter are absolutely furious.
No wonder the assholes don't want anyone to see it.
Stewert on now
Jon's a funny, funny man. I love him too, in a manly, heterosexual way.
TR Phillies OLL
Ass Phillies hole
Dick Phillies head
Dumb Phillies fuck
Ahem. New threads up.
Dave,
One of my best friends lives in Oakland and Barts into SF for work. He is so utterly sick of the delays and disruptions he's ready to explode.
qp, no wonder your family is furious, jamming that leftist lying propaganda down their throats.
They got a look at his polling numbers and they're trying to avoid humiliation?
the polling numbers I've seen are pretty good for Chimpy today. even Zogby has him ahead.
to follow up on my blathering upthread, though, I think the problem with polling this year is not that the samples are small (hence the MoEs large) but rather that the population of likely poll respondents is no longer representative of the American voter - that is, that the samples are biased on almost every poll.
Even most of us who still have land lines are rarely at home, and when we are at home, the last thing we want to do is spend fifteen minutes talking to a pollster. I routinely hang up on pollsters, political polls, marketing surveys, or what have you; if they want my time, they can pay me for it.
-- Cool Train -- over at John Kerry blog com net org
In a speech quoted in mjor news outlets today, Dick Cheney said that Kerry opposed the weapons systems that helped America defeat the Soviet Union. (??) I don't remember us using any weapons on the Soviet Union. Alls I remember was the deterioration of conditions in the Soviet Union and in Eastern Europe that were inevitable with such a wrongheaded totalitarian political system and which eventually caused its collapse. I was living overseas during the years when the end came. Did we fight a war with the USSR and I missed it??? Damn John Kerry for opposing those vital weapons that defeated the Russkies! That was money well spent. He probably favored spending it on that health and environmental shit instead of good old Nucular Wup'ems.
But considering his belief in "following his gut insticts" and only thinking positively, without ever having a Plan B, he'll be absolutely sure nothing will happen to any of them. They'll be crying by Jan, as they pack their offices, but Chimpy won't see any need for pardons.
One can hope.
Because if the inner circle starts going down, without the protection of the Oval Office, we might see somebody frog marched out of Crawford.
And Stewart is great on C-SPAN, right now!
WTF is up with Texas?
yeah, we're so very different from the people in Kansas and Ohio and rural Pennsylvania and oh yeah, what was that other state? Florida, that's it.
Troll! Loser! Fuck you! Shut the fuck up! Your opinion is different so it's wrong! I own all threads!
I am a gay, and soooo, manly, and I want to be bfs with Jon S.!
Stewert's just trying to be funny.Not really saying a whole lot.
Some,but he could be more frank IMO.
cameron
Tx Monthly sharply endoresed Bush in 2000 and it began during the 25th anniversary ce;ebration in 1997 at the LBJ Library in ASustin when Miek Levy said he thought Bush would be a "pretty good president".
Levy has gone nutso out of his fucking mind. He backed Bush.
The new editor is a shadow of the former editor Greg Curtis , and the whole magazine has become a glamour fest: Michael McConnaghy, Norah Jones and other celebs on the cover.
it's sad really
Who was the troll who was paid to go away? Wasn't it Hecate who ponied up the money? I've got a few bucks I'll pony up if it'll finally rid us of AM...
When is Hillary getting in the race?
pigbaugh and sludge and insannity all told me over and over again Hil was gonna bump off Kerry. What about all those stalking horses? It's getting late, she better make a move pretty soon!
ou're gonna need a dry set before the night's out.
http://tinyurl.com/53fn4
It's humor night at Eschaton.
Heh. The Jesus in the picture looks just like my husband. Then he wonders why I call him "white man's Jesus" all the time...
From Dictionary.com;
"An individual who chronically trolls in sense 1; regularly posts specious arguments, flames or personal attacks to a newsgroup, discussion list, or in email for no other purpose than to annoy someone or disrupt a discussion. Trolls are recognizable by the fact that the have no real interest in learning about the topic at hand - they simply want to utter flame bait. Like the ugly creatures they are named after, they exhibit no redeeming characteristics, and as such, they are recognized as a lower form of life on the net, as in, "Oh, ignore him, he's just a troll." "
Of course, you could always just sit around and watch for yourself just how much such people add to the conversation. Indeed, how much they add to your own conversation, but trying to drown it out and even going as far as calling you at home and telling you to stop posting...
Real conservatives are welcome here. People who've been chasing the powdered chimp too much to ever consider admitting they may not have all the answer to life, the universe and everything else are not.
It's the same everywhere on the internet I'm afraid Alex.
Alex, They would brand me a troll. I stop by here once or twice a week, as well as most blogs. This place is as bad as it gets for over the top hate, and refusal to entertain the truth. Assorted Atrios henchmen will block you after a few disageeable posts. It's going to be one nasty place the day after, when Kerry loses. It'll be off with his head, who's next to drag Bush down. Do yourself a favor, stop by all the left and right spots.
Bush is campaigning like victory is imminent, he is going for the landslide. He is going to states that have been Democratic strongholds for decades. Kerry is desperate, still trying to convince his own base, wasting time in states he should have locked up months ago.
Anonymous
Anon must be seeing Rush's drug dealer.
it's a slab of dough . . . that's fried. That's it! Sprinkle some powdered sugar on it and bob's yer uncle.
watertiger
Ever had Kruschiki? (Polish "bowties" or "angels' wings") Basically just fried dough, sprinkjled w/ sugar, but if you ever saw the recipe, well, Bisquick it aint. Mostly egg, and with lemon, lotsa flavors. There's dough, and then there's dough. 'course, at the carnival, it's prolly just....dough.
Anonymous | Email | Homepage | 10.23.04 - 9:18 pm | #
You little coward. You haven't seen F9/11, have you?
Your head would explode.
You can't handle the truth. That movie will destroy your faith in and support of Bush.
I dare you to see it.
Texas Monthly has long been a carpetbagger rag and Mike Levy has always been nuts. TM started out as a ripoff of Esquire for people in a hick state who could laugh at themselves and went downhill from there as the hicks started thinking of themselves as sophisticated without doing the hard work of actually educating themselves.
For those of you asking WTF is wrong with Texas, this is it in a nutshell: Bush is our idea of an education reformer.
Alls I remember was the deterioration of conditions in the Soviet Union and in Eastern Europe that were inevitable with such a wrongheaded totalitarian political system and which eventually caused its collapse.
What? You don't remember Poppy and the Gipper leading a nukular bombardment agin them rooskies?
Art, you sound suspiciously like a member of the reality-based community.
Welcome!
Henchman America's Nemesis: Thanks for defining what a real coservative is not, by once again defaming the President.
meanwhile Drudge is dutifully reporting that a few Bush Headquarters have been ransacked. See?
Our side is SO MEAN. Giving cover to the media who can then claim. "Both sides do it."
stinky feet
Ransacked by who, is the question.
I'd check for Rovian finger prints.
They are easy to identify, not quite human and stinky.
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I may scream, rant and rave about the intolerance and bull-headedness of Bush/Cheney -- BUT I AM THE BROWNSHIRT OF ESCHATON AND YOU WILL OBEY ME!
Alex, to answer your question see: Phillies
I actually did see F'n hype 911 (the fat slob one). I laughed through it, I still support the President. You actually believed it? Come on...and all you left wing folks are supposed to be so intellectually superior.
Defaming the president? However could one do that? I could call him a dangerous mentally-ill idiot, and it is no more than the truth.
It might be worth pointing out, too (although I'm sure that the point is wasted on you) that defaming the president is exactly what your side did to Bill Clinton. ANd only now you complain? What's up with that?
Do you suppose J.M. Keenan knows "Phillies?":
Pet
Don't fret precious I'm here, step away from the window
Go back to sleep
Lay your head down child
I won't let the boogeyman come
Counting bodies like sheep
To the rhythm of the war drums
Pay no mind to the rabble
Pay no mind to the rabble
Head down, go to sleep
To the rhythm of the war drums
Pay no mind what other voices say
They don't care about you, like I do, like I do
Safe from pain and truth and choice and other poison devils,
See, they don't give a fuck about you, like I do.
Just stay with me, safe and ignorant,
Go back to sleep
Go back to sleep
Lay your head down child
I won't let the boogeyman come
Count the bodies like sheep
To the rhythm of the war drums
Pay no mind to the rabble
Pay no mind to the rabble
Head down, go to sleep to the rhythm of the war drums
Yeah, second set of "A Perfect Circle" lyrics - it's Saturday Night and time to get the party on.
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Uh oh, it's past someone's bedtime. He's feeling particularly weak and ineffective, so he's whining.
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh!
Give the kid a bottle and put him to bed.
OMG, tonight has to be the one night i tell the Tivo *not* to record capital-gangbang. I will record the 3 a.m. episode & report back any novakula hijinx.
and thanks for the tip about jon on cspan. i hate televised sports.
Before people start picking on Texans, I think they need to look at their own states. Yes we have a bit more in the way of Bushites, yes we exported the Texas political creed to the rest of the nation, but look at the number of folks who voted for Bush in other states. And as far as "hicks" are concerned, we are a pretty damn diverse group of people. That being said, in my book there is only one valid reason to put Bush in office again and that is to keep him as far away from here as possible.
You actually believed it?
What part of of the truth did you have trouble with?
Sorry to report from Texas: story in San Antonio E-N. Poor greiving Mom whose son was killed in Iraq called for everyone to vote for Bush so her son wouldn't have died in vain. I have no idea how to post a link but it was on the front page. Very depressing.
I actually did see F'n hype 911 (the fat slob one). I laughed through it, I still support the President. You actually believed it? Come on...and all you left wing folks are supposed to be so intellectually superior.
Anonymous
God, what a fucking asshole. You're going to support an idiot who swears that Sweden doesn't have an army.
on•serv•a•tive
Pronunciation: (kun-sûr'vu-tiv), [key]
—adj.
1. disposed to preserve existing conditions, institutions, etc., or to restore traditional ones, and to limit change.
Cowards. They fear change.
You know this site?
http://www.electoral-vote.com/pr...pred/
index.html
All the freepers have been using it to gloat about how big Bush is going to win. Well at the link above, which is accessible from the hompepage, the owner of the site has a final prediction for the outcome on Nov 2nd.
Predicted Final Results:
Kerry 284
Bush 244
Looking good!
Tena -- your "Brownshirt" comment almost made me forget I'm married. What say you describe yourself and talk about what a bad boy I've been?
O.K., scratch that. Turned any Reps to the Good Side of the Force within the past day or two?
.
I dare you to see it.
pie
His head would explode in the first five minutes.
Watching Al Gore telling every member to sit down, individually, because not a single Senator would support their petitions.
Realizing the Secret Service guard the Saudi Embassy as carefully as they guard the White House.
Realizing who James Bath is- and what he does.
Or maybe not.
After all, there is a chance he's a paid troll. He may know, and not care. He may be DARPA. Or just a pornmeister freeper hacker. After all, for the last 30 minutes there's been somebody knocking on my firewall.
rococco
I will have to go look at it in a moment. Note by the way, the Express-news came out for Bush a few days back. I read their endorsement and it almost spun my head around. It came across more like, well yes Bush is an idiot, his policies have failed, the war stinks, but hey, why jump tracks now? Very strange.
"Terry, He's the President of the United States. What's your point?
Phillies
Actually, he's not, since he was SELECTED by the Supreme Court in 2000 and not elected by the American people (those of us with any brains, this is).
He might be YOUR fucking president but he's not mine - and he's a fucktard!
EkCenTrik-
That begs one of my fav questions. After Bush loses, do you think he's going to move back here?
I stop by here once or twice a week, as well as most blogs. This place is as bad as it gets for over the top hate, and refusal to entertain the truth. Assorted Atrios henchmen will block you after a few disageeable posts.
In other words, hello again to one of our regular trolls.
You see, Atrios only bans deliberately abusive people. And "Phillie" apparently too, who still comes here often despite the banning. But guess how many times the name "Phillie" has been seen in the last (oh let's say) 2 months?
In fact, guess how many posts have ever been made under the name "Phillie"? You can do a Google search for "Atrios Eschaton Phillie" if you want to check... Although I didn't bother, already knowing the answer.
But how is "Phillie" (or what ever name s/he will claim to have posted under originally; you'll notice they never say who it is they were, because then you'll be able to see why they were banned) able to come here despite being banned? Funny story; there's a number of trolls who've become so desperate to troll here that they've gone to extraordinary efforts to get around bannings. Atrios can tell you more if he feel's like it. But for now, let's just say that our main friend has been at it for years. And I wasn't kidding about stalking people at home either.
Now care to work out what this logically means about "Phillie"...? She's been banned here before, and yet...?
Our most obsessive friend's definately here right now as it is; The one foaming about Tena; who he absolutely cannot resist devoting his time too. You'll pick up on this particular misogynistic trait quickly, I'm sure...
One of his other tricks is to try and post as two identities at once; the obsessional stalker identity... and usualy a more "sane" poster, who echoes the insane side of himself but tries to justify it rationally. You can normally catch him as the first person to jump upon the new topic he himself starts, which isn't related to the thread in anyway, and no one else is interested in. It's almost as if he expects us to believe that all these mysteriously banned and silent posters suddenly reappear from nowhere, as if they are magically notified of the single post made in days that they actually agree with...
Oh wait; "Phillie" was responding to your question wasn't s/he, "Alex"? Well, perhaps that was merely coincidental; but if you decide to stay with us a while "Alex", you'll very quickly learn why trolls are hated all over the internet. In fact, I'll illustrate exactly why with another of Dr. Obsessovo's favourite tactic... Observe!
All the "freepers HAVE NOT been using this site. You are a liar, post a link proving otherwise. The owner of that site is an avowed Kerry supporter. (his words)
rococco
I read that story this morning. It's a great read. My mom grew up right outside Mason.
jeebs
I would suspect this will be the only state with enough connections to get him some gainful employment. If someone else is in the oval office, then the real facts will start showing up and I cannot see Bush actually being permitted to step outside of Texas gain moreless live elesewhere.
Hmm maybe he can move to Saudi Arabia...
I actually did see F'n hype 911
F9/11?
You're a liar.
You did NOT see it. You don't even know what's in it.
By the way, I sure miss the San Antonio Light. We need a real paper in this town.
There has been a sea change in this presidential race.
Bush has GIVEN UP ON OHIO!
Unless Kerry can get Florida, the race now hinges on WISCONSIN! If Bush gets that plus New Mexico OR Iowa, which has been polling red for several weeks, he wins even without Ohio. So if you know anybody in Wisconsin who is persuadable, GET ON THE PHONE TO THEM NOW!!! Minnesota is 2% Bush according to Mason-Dixon, but that's a crock o' shit. Wisconsin, on the other hand, has two recent polls tied and two recent polls favoring Bush. It's in real danger of choosing the Dark Side. Iowa is looking pretty bad, too. Three out of five recent polls favor Bush, one is tied, and one has Kerry by only 1%. Gore won Iowa in 2000 by a totally negligible margin.
Maybe the incumbent effect will save our bacon, but better to play it safe. Kerry should STOP FUCKING AROUND in Arizona and Colorado, and put a stop to this end-run play in Wisconsin and Iowa IMMEDIATELY. If he picks one of these states and puts all his effort there, he will win!
Any thoughts on this out there?
I actually did see F'n hype 911 (the fat slob one). I laughed through it, I still support the President. You actually believed it?
What part did you find not credible? The video footage of Bush reading to kids for 7 minutes while the nation was under attack (not shown: the 20 minute press conference after or the disappearance into the hinterland for half a day after that)? The video of Colin Powell telling an Egyptian audience in 2001 that Saddam was contained, unable to produce WMD, a threat to no one, not even the region? The ties between the Bin Laden and Bush families are well known and documented, so it can't be that. So what was it that was so humorously phony?
I know - your claim that you actually saw it. Now THAT is funny.
{All the "freepers HAVE NOT been using this site. You are a liar, post a link proving otherwise. The owner of that site is an avowed Kerry supporter. (his words)
Anonymous | Email | Homepage | 10.23.04 - 9:47 pm | #}
I see you guys crowing on Freep as well as Yahoo whenever Bush leads on the hompage which has been a few times over the last couple of weeks. I will not dig through the Freep cesspool looking for a link however.
As for the poll being Kerry slanted, in fact Bush was ahead on the homepage. He is not ahead in the final predictions page however and the homepage is more or less even today due to Florida being tied.
Kerry 257
Bush 254
What does his being a Kerry supporter have to do with his compiling of public polls? Do you think that because you are dishonest that he would be as well?
Seems like it...
How about you find me an electoral poll that is by a reputable pollster and we can compare. This guy is pretty well known and is getting 600,000 hits a day to back up that fact.
meanwhile Drudge is dutifully reporting that a few Bush Headquarters have been ransacked.
Why, are all the dildos, poker chips and OxyContin missing?
Giving office keys to Limbaugh, Bennett and O'Reilly wasn't very smart.
Realizing the Secret Service guard the Saudi Embassy as carefully as they guard the White House.
The Uniformed Division of the Secret Service protects all foreign diplomatic missions in the US (but mostly on Embassy Row in DC). I doubt that they take out-of-the-ordinary care of the Saudi Embassy.
Yes, I've seen the movie. Moore's very good at asking leading questions.
Blerb,
I couldn't agree more...Also, maybe I am missing something with Virginia(and W. Va), but those are really tight too. I see the numbers in Wisconsin and Minnesota...with a little work and money and given their political histories, they would seem like really good shots to me. I just do not see that same hope in Arizona??
After Bush loses, do you think he's going to move back here?
Yup. To Crawford. He's worth $15-20 million and will pad that with speaking gigs. Laura likes the social life in Austin an hour away and they built a cool home in Crawford. W can ride his mountain bike and clear brush and we can get on with trying to be taken seriously as a world leader and economic power again.
God, what a fucking asshole. You're going to support an idiot who swears that Sweden doesn't have an army.
Terry C
Or who says he doesn't give a shit about where bin Laden is, that he doesn't care and doesn't think about him, despite the fact he orchestrated the deaths of 3,000 Americans.
Then when he gets his pants pulled down during the debate, lies about making the statement.
God that footage NBC showed after the debate was priceless.
Anybody who votes for Bush after that has shit between their ears.
ordinarily, on a sat night, i wouldn't be here, but i am into the series as a long time redsoxian.
an advert break is on, so i have to respond to pie..
in a very real sense, voting is an act of faith. and for most of amerikan history, that faith has been traduced.
for instance, i did an early vote[tantamount to absentee] in montgomery county texas on 18/10/04 because my schedule has me out of the country on 2/11/04.
will my vote be counted? i recall learning after 2000 election that absentee ballots are not counted unless the general election ballots are deadlocked - is this t or f?
personally, i think that the voting process in this country is as corrupt as it was when jfk became elected-chicago, west by god virginia, lbj's texas.
there will be no landslide for the democratic boner. mark these words. much to my surprise, other vietvets that i know, their wives, and other acquaintances - let's call it 100 individuals - i know of only 4 that will be voting against bush.
that too is a bad sign, not voting for kerry, but against bush. i consider that a very shaky level of support.
now, i want the bushits defenestrated. but i find that i am more serious about this than anyone i employ, do business with, served with, know.
what scares me is that there is going to be a landslide result all right. for bush-cheney.
somehow, i think all the polls have it wrong. bush/cheney by 65% of the vote. without manipulation.
oh, i could be wrong. and i hope that i am. it is just that i never encounter a kerry/edwards supporter during my travels. not just in metro houston. not anywhere. not in omaha. not in rockford illinois. not in beloit wisconsin. not in waukesha wisconsin. not in lafayette la. not in odessa tx. not in cleveland oh. not in casper wy.
the most discouraging confrontations were sitting next to ex-navy personnel while flying commercially. i have sat next to 3 within the last few months. none have jobs. all three were in for 20 years. during our chit-chat, when they learned that i was a manufacturer[employer], they asked me where they could send a resume to me.
before i gave them that address, i asked them how they felt about the current candidates for the presidency. i felt as if i was listening to the manchurian candidate...
on the subject of bush, it was uniformly a response as brainwashed as the captives assessment of raymond. you remember? the bravest, most noble, etc etc etc.
following those encomiums, when i asked about kerry - i was blown away by the vitriol and the opposition.
when i told them that i felt completely differently, and that i had served in the usmc during the vietnam era, i was told in no uncertain terms that i must have been a court-martialed marine, with issues.
telling them, no, that i was a david shoup marine who was a captain, caused them to clam up.
and by the way, these were squids that never served outside of the usa. all were supply, finance officers. always s
Northern New Mexico update (also works as troll-repellant):
Friday afternoon, big buzz, people coming in all afternoon asking for signs, getting flyers to share with neighbors, and often signing up for hours of canvassing, phone banks etc.
Saturday 8:30am. More than 200 people turn up to do a shift of canvassing neighborhoods. Every one of a couple thousand collated brochures and handouts for candidates is taken out and distributed.
Saturday afternoon: Word confirms that Kerry is coming to Albuquerque Tuesday, with 'special musical guests' and the word is Big Dog will be there too. Tickets are distributed, and are almost gone in Santa Fe. I got 2 and will take my neighbor and a couple of other folks with tickets down to the rally.
Every goal that's been set on phone calls completed, contacts made with voters on phones or in person have been met with astounding success. We count on a heavy turnout in Northern New Mexico to counter-balance the Repubs down south and the mix in the ABQ area. Looks like we'll top our always high turnout by several percentage points this time around. Proudly point to the fact we had one of the highest state-wide turnouts in 2000.
Local TV covered the visits of Kerry and Cheney Kerry crowds in southern NM today overflowing, lots of shots of Kerry and NM pols smiling and speaking to the cheering crowd. Cheney in controlled inside 'rally' with a much smaller crowd, Cheney spreading fear with his dark words.
New Mexico will go blue and our 5 electoral votes will go to Kerry, although I'm losing hope in the Romero-Wilson race down in Albuquerque.
And as a long-time Mets fan, I never thought I'd say this, but:
Go Sox Go
ordinarily, on a sat night, i wouldn't be here, but i am into the series as a long time redsoxian.
an advert break is on, so i have to respond to pie..
in a very real sense, voting is an act of faith. and for most of amerikan history, that faith has been traduced.
for instance, i did an early vote[tantamount to absentee] in montgomery county texas on 18/10/04 because my schedule has me out of the country on 2/11/04.
will my vote be counted? i recall learning after 2000 election that absentee ballots are not counted unless the general election ballots are deadlocked - is this t or f?
personally, i think that the voting process in this country is as corrupt as it was when jfk became elected-chicago, west by god virginia, lbj's texas.
there will be no landslide for the democratic boner. mark these words. much to my surprise, other vietvets that i know, their wives, and other acquaintances - let's call it 100 individuals - i know of only 4 that will be voting against bush.
that too is a bad sign, not voting for kerry, but against bush. i consider that a very shaky level of support.
now, i want the bushits defenestrated. but i find that i am more serious about this than anyone i employ, do business with, served with, know.
what scares me is that there is going to be a landslide result all right. for bush-cheney.
somehow, i think all the polls have it wrong. bush/cheney by 65% of the vote. without manipulation.
oh, i could be wrong. and i hope that i am. it is just that i never encounter a kerry/edwards supporter during my travels. not just in metro houston. not anywhere. not in omaha. not in rockford illinois. not in beloit wisconsin. not in waukesha wisconsin. not in lafayette la. not in odessa tx. not in cleveland oh. not in casper wy.
the most discouraging confrontations were sitting next to ex-navy personnel while flying commercially. i have sat next to 3 within the last few months. none have jobs. all three were in for 20 years. during our chit-chat, when they learned that i was a manufacturer[employer], they asked me where they could send a resume to me.
before i gave them that address, i asked them how they felt about the current candidates for the presidency. i felt as if i was listening to the manchurian candidate...
on the subject of bush, it was uniformly a response as brainwashed as the captives assessment of raymond. you remember? the bravest, most noble, etc etc etc.
following those encomiums, when i asked about kerry - i was blown away by the vitriol and the opposition.
when i told them that i felt completely differently, and that i had served in the usmc during the vietnam era, i was told in no uncertain terms that i must have been a court-martialed marine, with issues.
telling them, no, that i was a david shoup marine who was a captain, caused them to clam up.
and by the way, these were squids that never served outside of the usa. all were supply, finance officers. always s
and by the way, these were squids that never served outside of the usa. all were supply, finance officers. always stationed conus.
so, it seems to me that it is the remfs that are being bold and homicidal.
i don't know, pie. i sure hope your antibushit spirit prevails.
but i just don't have good vibes.
and i recommend hedging your bets. send some money - small change - to the rnc.
just don't be out there as a fervent anti-repfascist when the repfascists prevail. heinrich himmler could tell you what will be happening to you, were he still alive. but, you could question his nephew, karl rove. and his grandson, john ashcroft. i am certain that they have a little[big] book. sort of like that book maintained by the lord high executioner in the mikado.
you never will be missed.
the trolls are getting less apt by the day.
first string must be out going bar to bar.
-J.T.
Warlord of Silver Spring
"Mars, Bitches!"
Goddammit, champion, close the fucking Haloscan window after you post and click on the link on the main page instead of refreshing. I'm tired of scrolling past your insanely long posts more than once.
Jeebus, haven't you figured out how to do that yet??!?!?! It's not like you haven't posted here a million times before.
not just in metro houston. not anywhere. not in omaha. not in rockford illinois. not in beloit wisconsin. not in waukesha wisconsin. not in lafayette la. not in odessa tx. not in cleveland oh. not in casper wy.
Albert: I've experienced the exact opposite, even during visits to Houston and Dallas - let's not even talk about California, NYC, Boston. Maybe it's your line of business? And let's get real - Lafayette, LA? (Talk with any black folks there?) Casper, WY? Odessa? Those are not places where you're gonna feel the Kerry-Edwards love.
I will hide this down here on a troll-polluted old open thread just to see if links work the same on haloscan everywhere or if some require quote marks....
Xan's cats' opinion of the Wolves ad.
/whoring
NMRed,
Wow; fantastic report. Sounds as if Kerry can count on those electoral votes. When have the Dems ever been so energized??
bottom line number is 284 for a kerry victory and it may grow if colorado splits EVs and WI stays democratic -- this is going to be a huge night for democrats because they are going to do some damage in the senate too
"THEY SHALL NOT PASS"
SWAT on BART eh? Sounds like yet another episode in the capaign of fear.
All the terraists would have to do is move to Caltrain, or muni, or streetcars, or buses, or...you get the idea.
OTOH, they never had a chance in Cali, so wtf?
Deep fried oreos, eh? Child's play. I'll see your 275 ug/l cholesterol, and raise you another 100:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europ...ope/
3825221.stm
.
:o)
No longer obligatory, the standard disclaimer lives on forever: "The contents of this message are mine personally and do not reflect any position of the U.S. Government."
albert, like you I don't think it's going to be quite the push-over some feel here.
But if urban areas get counted, I think it likely Kerry will get the popular vote.
Let me assure you, there are a lot of people like pie- or me- or dozens of us that post here- in America.
Millions, I'd say.
Believe it, in this little universe, we notice it when the regulars don't post.
After all, there's only a few dozen regulars here. Including you.
Many of us even know each other outside the blogsphere. Imagine that.
If Ashcroft gets Patriot 2, we'll notice. If people start to Disappear, we'll act. What this herd of cats will actually do if that happens, I can't predict.
But we won't be alone. At least half of America will be with us.
Hecate - I've done some volunteer work on every cycle since 84 here - even if it was just driving people to the polls on Election Day. I've never seen so many people working weeks before the election as I have this fall. Folks around here were ready by the January caucus to vote Bush out.
We've got a decent amount of money to spend, there's people stepping up and asking what they can do, many who readily say they have never done any voluntering before, but they couldn't sit by and do nothing to stop Bush and the repubs.
I was in a local mega-chain store at the beginning of the week. The nice middle aged lady who checked me out commented on my K/E button. I asked if she had voted yet, she replied "No, but I'm going out to early vote this week and taking my aunt with me. The only way these Republicans ever win is by cheating. So we're going to make sure we get our votes in early."
I gave her my button to wear when not working, pulled out a spare to give to her auntie, and on the way home, just kept chanting:
"Kerry in a Landslide, Kerry in a Landslide, The People are Awake and we're giving Kerry a Landslide!"
By the Will of the People,
So Mote it Be
ah dang it, those wicked Haloscan cookies, now you all know my secret identity
NMRed/Brigit O'Demo is revealed!
Curses!
I doubt that they take out-of-the-ordinary care of the Saudi Embassy.
Harrassing camera crews across the street from an embassy is normal?
Multiple open squad cars and several undercover cars constantly posted around embassies are normal?
Been to Washington lately?
Thought not.
albert -
I think you're wrong about support for Kerry, and perhaps unlucky in the people you meet. My husband's a proud vet supporting Kerry, so's our next door neighbor here in AZ. We recently got Air America and other programs on the radio here, so many people are thrilled and excited about it, many many people calling the station to thank them over and over again for 24 hour progressive programming.
I rarely meet a Bush supporter, and the ones who are seem sheepish about it. I think Arizona is going to surprise the hell out of a lot of people. We have 20,000 people working for the AZ Dem Party campaign, and that doesn't begin to count the other groups like MoveOn and ACT and others. There's a palpable excitement in the air. Haven't seen this much vibrancy since...ever!
and albert...
Did you read the post on another thread (by chris, I think) about how Poppy and Babs Bush went to early voting in Houston and planned to have a little press conference thingy after their votes, and cancelled it because there were so many Kerry supporters outside?
i sure hope your antibushit spirit prevails.
It will, darling.
I have a feeling that you will continue to be gloomy when Kerry wins, but please, try to lighten up.
sorry.
don't know why i couldn't close it. tried.
bad keypad perhaps.
also, it is possible that i run in the wrong income group.
because even in LA i don't encounter pro-kerry's.
hell, my brother in law threw me out of his house because i expressed an affection for german, french automobiles. last easter.
that ire has been squelched, but i can see in his eyes that he still regards me as a traitor for continuing to have affection for germany and france.
brentwood-dweller.
don't misunderstand, i want the bush-cheney gangsters out of dc.
but i don't encounter the individuals that the polls say are out there in the normal course of my business.
and understand, i employ approximately 100 people. out of those, based on my polling, only 2 of us support kerry. and we are virtually the only veterans in my employ. and we are both male and over 55. USN and USMC.
it is lamentable that this is the case.
but it is what scares me. that the polls aren't getting it.
and that it is going to be an very ugly surprise come 3/11/04.
and i don't even want to bring up how teresa has generated so much hostility amongst the women that i employ. out of 100, 70 of my employees are women. in my canvassing, they all express hatred for teresa.
and this hatred becomes confirmed when they learn that teresa files income tax returns as teresa heinz.
they think, and perhaps they are right, that john and teresa aren't married.
so it goes. but i am uncomfortable with bob shrum and the dnc.
boner v boner = all of us losers.
buy euros, swissies, loonies, gold as fast as you can next week.
this country is down the tubes, no matter who wins, so fast that it will take your breath away.
oh, if you have arm mortgages, try to convert them immediately.
as tom lehrer, said, the immediate[perhaps long-term] future will be like sliding down a razor blade.
and demfascists will not be arresting that slide.
it goes without saying that repfascists will not be arresting that slide.
let me add my .02:
I know several people who voted for Bush last time who are voitng for Kerry or Badnarick for a couple of die-hard Republicans who can't bring themselves to vote Democratic.
None of the Gore voters I know are voting for Bush.
And the rest is all the ground game from here on in. So I charge each and every Eschatonian to do one more thing in these last few days to help one more person vote, give it one more try to conivince that on the fence relative that they can't vote for Bush, send those last few dollars to help shore up the last offensive moves needed by our side, and let's get out there and show how much we love our nation and our democracy.
I'll be doing 4 hours this coming Mon-Sat minimum next week at HQ. Then Monday and Tuesday it'll be 8+ hours each day, until they send me home and tell me there's nothing more I can do Election Night.
Who else is planning on working for GOTV etc last few days?
albert, you have either lost your mind or another troll is impersonating you.
It's happened before.
Kerry is going to win.
albert champion,
the places you are listing are terribly right wing strongholds, so it's not surprising that you're meeting all of the wingers. Anywhere outside of the Chicago metropolitan area, for example, tends to be quite conservative. Doesn't take away from the fact that illinois is a through and through red state. Casper, Wy, well, wasn't Cheney from there? I mean, I could make the argument that everywhere I go everyone wants to see Bush dethroned, but I myself tend to be restricted to visiting large cities, and most of the people I interact with are of the 18-34 age group, so it's a selective sampling. So keep in mind that you are interacting with certain groups of people from republican strongholds. But like polling, it's not indicative of much.
Sorry about yelling at you, champion.
I think you are far too pessimistic about this. Look here,I'm a worrier. It runs in my family according to my aunt. My father literally worried himself into an early grave. I know how to worry, and I can worry more than anyone you have ever known, given the slightest pretext, rational or not.
Guess what? I'm not worried about Kerry being elected, albert. Not even a little any more. All signs point to a Kerry victory. I'm free to worry about something else.
iirc, Laura and W bought a house in Dallas not too long ago. They won't be moving back to live in Crawford.
because even in LA i don't encounter pro-kerry's.....brentwood-dweller.
brentwood! explains everything!
Serio, where in LA do you meet these wingers? because it has to be either in brentwood or in orange county. If you went down into the valley, santa monica, et al, it's straight up dem. Rich people in LA for the most part or worthless. Seriously, go down to van nuys or west covina or something, that'll lift your spirits
albert, when you write this:
"also, it is possible that i run in the wrong income group."
Your elitist trolly roots are showing.
Fortunately, although it may take a struggle to get the votes of the poor and middle class, minorities and urban votes counted, our votes count as much as your votes does in the final talley. And there's a hell of a lot more of us than there are of you.
My family's been broke and poor. Now we're in the tax bracket that Kerry is going to tax the most, and that's because of our own efforts, educations aided by government grants, and the Clinton economy. We don't mind, as a matter of fact, we gave all of Bush tax cut and then some to Kerry and Democratic orgs.
So kindly go pluck yourself, elitist a-hole, thinking that the reason we don't like you very much is because _you_ think you make more money than other folks who post here. Many of us could probably buy and sell you, we just don't brag about it.
Idiot.
RE: Albert Champion,
"not in cleveland oh"
You couldn't find a Kerry Supporter in CLEVELAND??
BWAAAAAA HAHAHAHAHAHHA!!!!!
You are a Troll, troll, TROLL!
Nice try.....
Couple of things:
1. It's to Kerry's advantage to have Bush a few points ahead in the polls this close to election. Think about it. If Rove thinks Bush is ahead, he may relax a little. That's good for all of us. Also, it may mean that fewer people get harrassed by freaked-out republicans challenging them at the polls. I'm for that. Don't get so worked up if the infotainment outlets are reporting higher numbers for the powdered chimp.
2. We don't want Limbaugh off the air. Limbaugh is like a toilet. He attracts all the turds to him and they all sink lower and lower until they're all in the cesspool together. You can identify them by the smell and the brown. They're hopeless anyway, so let them all swim together. He keeps them out of the way of "thinking" people.
3. I visited the freepers site and the Tucker Eskew or is it Askew? sites. People there are seriously deluded. That's a good thing. LEt them live in their dream world, voting for their chimp king. The rest of us will help get our democracy back while they pout and moan.
kerry is probably the most logical choice now that the wheels are coming off the GOP bandwagon in many voters eyes. There is not one bush whackjob who doesn't backoff or get insanely angry when you hit them with the facts now.
they know it's over and the greedy little pinhead is going back home to texas in just two short weeks after getting prison raped by the oil lobby and leaving his legacy in total shreds
ordinarily, on a sat night, i wouldn't be here, but i am into the series as a long time redsoxian.
something stinks here.
you write your dates backwards.
you talk about TV 'adverts'.
for god's sake, you're making gilbert & sullivan references.
but you expect us to believe you're a marine and a 'redsoxian'.
I get seven - count 'em - seven google hits on 'redsoxian'. they're all adjectives.
if you're a marine and a sox fan, you're a damned squirrely one.
as for your political observations: never - not once in 130 years - has a presidential candidate won 65% of the popular vote.
I don't know who you talk to or what you do all day, but you evidently spend a lot of it in a small room having a rich fantasy life and being very paranoid.
In a speech quoted in mjor news outlets today, Dick Cheney said that Kerry opposed the weapons systems that helped America defeat the Soviet Union. (??)
Kerry voted against MTV and Levis? I must have missed that.
Harrassing camera crews across the street from an embassy is normal?
Multiple open squad cars and several undercover cars constantly posted around embassies are normal?
the spaniards under aznar outdid bushco. They used to have TANKS surrounding the U.S. embassy. Like 2 of them!! now thats what i call hardcore.
raspberry, the eskew site is a real hoot watching these wingnuts all blind and eerie like a bunch of bob roberts supporters
man, the takedown is going to depress these morons and I want a front row seat
I don't think albert is a troll, although I did call him that once. He's more like one of those old guys you meet in used bookstores who claim to have once been integral to the corridors of power and know everything. Most of them claim ex-spookhood, but on a very high level. And yes, "everything" is a conspiracy, and yes, it is all fixed, and only he knows all the dirt. Imagine Patrick McGoohan as the Prisoner, in a dusty old bookstore, down on his luck, and you won't go far wrong.
Except albert? It was a dumb TV show, ok?
albert, the slide downhill would be rapid if things went the way the Wrepublicans predicted- not publically, but in their own PNAC-AEI policy bubble.
After all, in 50 years there will be no fossil fuels.
Stop and think about that, everybody.
The Wrepublicans intended to use the worsening economic conditions to return the West back to a neo-feudal culture.
So they never seriously considered this: alternative energy sources can easily run industrial societies if the desire to develop and re-tool is there.
Kerry plans on this.
If the Democrats were Liebercrats, yes, albert, we'd be "sliding down the razor" just as fast as we have been with Bu$hCo in charge.
But they're not.
Kerry has always been a sincere progressive. And if we can drive and keep Cheney's private contractor buddies out of national policy machine and away from the Treasury, Kerry should be able to turn around this socio-economic slide.
Just like the Big Dog did to Poppy's economic slide.
Man I hope this is false...
October 20, 2004
Lebanonwire
A Bush pre-election strike on Iran 'imminent'
White House insider report "October Surprise" imminent
By Wayne Madsen
According to White House and Washington Beltway insiders, the Bush
administration, worried that it could lose the presidential election to
Senator John F. Kerry, has initiated plans to launch a military strike on
Iran's top Islamic leadership, its nuclear reactor at Bushehr on the Persian
Gulf, and key nuclear targets throughout the country, including the main
underground research site at Natanz in central Iran and another in Isfahan.
Targets of the planned U.S. attack reportedly include mosques in Tehran,
Qom, and Isfahan known by the U.S. to headquarter Iran's top mullahs.
The Iran attack plan was reportedly drawn up after internal polling
indicated that if the Bush administration launched a so-called
anti-terrorist attack on Iran some two weeks before the election, Bush would
be assured of a landslide win against Kerry. Reports of a pre-emptive strike
on Iran come amid concerns by a number of political observers that the Bush
administration would concoct an "October Surprise" to influence the outcome
of the presidential election.
According to White House sources, the USS John F. Kennedy was deployed to
the Arabian Sea to coordinate the attack on Iran. Defense Secretary Donald
Rumsfeld discussed the Kennedy's role in the planned attack on Iran when he
visited the ship in the Arabian Sea on October 9. Rumsfeld and defense
ministers of U.S. coalition partners, including those of Albania,
Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Georgia,
Hungary, Iraq, Latvia, Lithuania, Macedonia, Mongolia, Poland, Qatar,
Romania, and Ukraine briefly discussed a very "top level" view of potential
dual-track military operations in Iran and Iraq in a special "war room" set
up on board the aircraft carrier. America's primary ally in Iraq, the United
Kingdom, did not attend the planning session because it reportedly disagrees
with a military strike on Iran. London also suspects the U.S. wants to move
British troops from Basra in southern Iraq to the Baghdad area to help put
down an expected surge in Sh'ia violence in Sadr City and other Sh'ia areas
in central Iraq when the U.S. attacks Iran as well as clear the way for a
U.S. military strike across the Iraqi-Iranian border aimed at securing the
huge Iranian oil installations in Abadan. U.S. allies South Korea,
Australia, Kuwait, Jordan, Italy, Netherlands, and Japan were also left out
of the USS John F. Kennedy planning discussions because of their reported
opposition to any strike on Iran.
In addition, Israel has been supplied by the United States with 500 "bunker
buster" bombs. According to White House sources, the Israeli Air Force will
attack Iran's nuclear facility at Bushehr with the U.S. bunker busters.The
joint U.S.-Israeli pre-emptiv
continued
In addition, Israel has been supplied by the United States with 500 "bunker
buster" bombs. According to White House sources, the Israeli Air Force will
attack Iran's nuclear facility at Bushehr with the U.S. bunker busters.The
joint U.S.-Israeli pre-emptive military move against Iran reportedly was
crafted by the same neo-conservative grouping in the Pentagon and Vice
President Dick Cheney's office that engineered the invasion of Iraq.
Morale aboard the USS John F. Kennedy is at an all-time low, something that
must be attributable to the knowledge that the ship will be involved in an
extension of U.S. military actions in the Persian Gulf region. The
Commanding Officer of an F-14 Tomcat squadron was relieved of command for a
reported shore leave "indiscretion" in Dubai and two months ago the
Kennedy's commanding officer was relieved for cause.
The White House leak about the planned attack on Iran was hastened by
concerns that Russian technicians present at Bushehr could be killed in an
attack, thus resulting in a wider nuclear confrontation between Washington
and Moscow. International Atomic Energy Agency representatives are also
present at the Bushehr facility. In addition, an immediate Iranian Shahab
ballistic missile attack against Israel would also further destabilize the
Middle East. The White House leaks about the pre-emptive strike may have
been prompted by warnings from the CIA and the Defense Intelligence Agency
that an attack on Iran will escalate out of control. Intelligence circles
report that both intelligence agencies are in open revolt against the Bush
White House.
White House sources also claimed they are "terrified" that Bush wants to
start a dangerous war with Iran prior to the election and fear that such a
move will trigger dire consequences for the entire world.
--------------------------------------------------
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Wayne Madsen is a Washington, DC-based investigative journalist and
columnist. He served in the National Security Council (NSA) during the
Reagan Administration and wrote the introduction to Forbidden Truth. He is
the co-author, with john Stanton of "America's Nightmare: The Presidency of
George Bush II." His forthcoming book is titled: "jaded Tasks: Big Oil,
Black Ops, and Brass Plates." Madsen can be reached at Wmadsen777@aol.com
CopyrightC1999-2004 LebanonwireR.com
Darrel Hammond on SNL has lost his edge on his Tweety impersonation.
Red Sox up by 2, bottom of the 8th... Tavarez gives up a 2-run homer to Bellhorn.
SNL sucks so fucking bad it makes us want to start a campaign to ask NBC to cancel it.
Yesterday a friend voted early at a polling location in Austin. She voted straight Democratic. When she did the final check, lo and behold every vote was for the Democratic candidates except that it showed that she had voted for Bush/Cheney for president/vice pres.
She immediately got a poll official. On her vote, it was corrected. She
called the Travis County Democratic headquarters. They took all her information. They told her that she wasn't the first to report a similar incident and that they are looking into it.
So, check before you leave the polling booth, and if anything is
wrong, get it corrected immediately.
Report any irregularities to your local Democratic headquarters.
Thanks Plutodog.
Is there any chance this story could be a Karl Rove set-up? He is famous for this kind of thing.
He could say Kerry leaked the story to make the chimpster look bad.
I dunno, it kind of rings true.
kelley,
kerry, sincere progressive? whaaaa? on the environment maybe. have you seen all of his corporate deregulation votes? his coddling of big media? nevermind his voting for every trade bill there ever was. when kerry brags in his rallies he broke party ranks to vote with reagan to reduce the deficit, that was done on the backs of poor people. children were deprived of healthcare because of that vote.
compare kerry with a true progressive. fiengold voted against nafta, NCLB, patriot act, against the iraq war resolution, etc. now that's a real progressive.
all this talk about kerry being rated the most liberal senator--it's nothing but bogus propaganda generated to serve up bush with attack ammo.
yes we should all be voting for kerry but don't be delusional. people should know the reality of what it is they are voting for. and not be bamboozled by the idealized campaign manufactured image party hacks have crafted.
that was me @ 12:16.
pardon me, the game is into adverts now. i shall take advantage of the intermission.
i have tuned in. short comment...i don't think that you are paying attention to what i have been saying.
and anyone who thinks me a troll hasn't been reading my posts. ever.
let me say it again. undoubtedly there are anti-bushits. i just don't encounter many of them.
now, they must be there, because the polls say that they are out there.
but pay attention, among my employees, doing an in-house poll, only 2 of us will be voting for kerry/edwards. one of us is 55. the other is 62. and as i said, USN and USMC. in the vietnam era.
that is 2% of my workforce. most of them women earning just above the minimum wage.
quite candidly, this voting orientation depresses me.
i don't understand it.
and then, there is a part of me that does understand the hatred of democrats. if you have ever read me, you know that i hate the usg for killing so many iraqi noncombatants.
and this homicidal mania is not exclusively bushian. surely you can recall madeline albright[bill clinton's secstate] and her response to the unicef reports of the deaths of 500,000+ iraqi children...
what was it that she said? something like, we acknowledge those numbers and think them acceptable.
think on that.
and also think on the clintonian cruise missile attack on iraq. more death and destruction unleashed by the democratic president than unleashed by bush1.
but, as i read the posters[posturers] on this site, democrats murdering noncombatants is OK.
and of course, it should be noted that the 500,000 - 1,000,000 noncombatant deaths that the more evil c*nt[madeline albright] than condi rice countenanced, were murdered during the reign of that great humanitarian, bill clinton.
yeah, tell that to the sudanese.
and tell that to all those living in the balkans.
so, think on this, those of you who profess to be saviors of life, why is there no record of any outrage from kerry/edwards concerning this country and its murdering of noncombatants?
and that is the crime...
the democrats are as homicidal as the republicans.
i weep. because nothing will be changing this november. even if kerry/edwards triumph.
iraqi women, children and old men will still be getting killed by us forces. afghan women, children, and old men will still be getting killed by us forces.
it is clear to me from reading the responses that i have generated that virtually none can read[and that includes you dr pederast].
and this is what explains the death of the republic - the ascension of the ignorants.
signing off now. preparing for my move to france.
i no longer want to converse with so many idiots.
good luck. hope you are able to keep your hold on a democratic republic.
but it is my assertion that you have lost it. imagine one boner versus another boner. and you think this to be a contest. hah.
so it goes.
just remembered, even kerry's commitment to the environment is suspect when he blocks wind farms from going up next to his home at cape cod. would spoil the view.
What ho? Advert on the old telly, don't you know! Pip pip! Yanks such as myself -- yes, truly I am an American! -- fear for this Kerry chap. All the reports I've heard from my mates tell me that Bush is in for victory honours. It's all over but the shouting. I am an American, with my finger on the pulse, et cetera. Kerry, you're done for. Take it from me, an actual American. Don't bother voting. Up Bush. Down Kerry. Well, that's what my fellow Americans are saying. Cheers!
yes albert. it wasn't just bush senior who betrayed the kurds. clinton also promised to back the kurds in an attempted coup, promised them air cover, but abandoned them in the last hour to saddam's wrath.
clinton fearing failure didn't want another bay of pigs on his hands. clinton allowed the kurds to be slaughtered. iraqi lives lost was less important than sparing him political embarrassment.
but we refuse to hold clinton accountable because he's elvis. because he's the big dog. because we worship at the alter of charisma.
Shouldn't there be some "hurrrm"s sprinkled in there? (I heart comic books.)
Funny, my good buddy (Marine Recon) is thinking the same way you are, albert. He also bumps into a lot of people who vote against their own best interests. He can't figure it out either.
Good luck with your move, and tell Crumb I said "Hi".
For sheer volume of snarky comments that toast wingnuts Eschaton is king. For sheer, concentrated snark that puts wingnuts in their place (without the annoying Frist posts) I recommend Sadly, No!
I am an American, living abroad now for over 10 years...so correct me if I'm wrong but I seem to recall that when one registers to vote, like outside a shopping center or something...that you do NOT receive a receipt. Is that correct?
I seem to recall even then having a weird feeling, wondering how long I should wait before receiving confirmation about being processed.
The partisan ruling by a republican judge in Las Vegas sickens me. For one thing the process itself ought to be more foolproof. I mean, if one registers to vote, one ought to receive official confirmation by a certain number of days. Also obviously ought to receive a receipt with date, time, and place signed by the person registering you, AND there ought to be sufficient time after the "cutoff date" that allows anyone that has registered in time and correctly to find out if their registration has been processed and if not they must have access to redress in time to vote.
I am amazed that this isn't the case.
I myself applied in time from Europe, but received a "sample ballot" that I was to fill out (with NO instructions that I was to use the sample ballot as my actual ballot) and when I called Contra Costa, CA to find out what this all was, they told me they would transfer my vote to a real balot when they got it. I am registered as a democrat. I would love to know if Republicans abroad got the same treatment...they claimed they didn't get the ballots in time. They also claimed they forgot to put the letter explaining that one should use the sample ballots in the envelope.
There ARE ways one could tighten up this process...hell, if we're going "hi-tech" with the voting machines we damn well ought to be able to log on on the net, and get access to our own vote to see if it was registered as we filled out.
Hell, the republicans ought to even be for that, since poor people often have no access to the net...
But King George wants a fucking FLAG ammendment...how about a damn ammendment to standardize voting so that all are assured a system that actually will COUNT their goddamn votes?
He's spreading something all right, but it doesn't smell like democracy.
but pay attention, among my employees, doing an in-house poll, only 2 of us will be voting for kerry/edwards
Late to the thread (next morning), don't know if it's still alive...but I dunno about that, albert. I was once one of 2 people in my immediate hallway at work who did not vote for Oliver North for Senate.
He still lost.
I see so much support for Kerry/Edwards around here that I can't help but be optimistic. I know northern VA always goes for the Dems, but I never saw this much fervor before. A friend & I, sitting on a bench in a shopping center yesterday, burst into spontaneous applause at the sight of this bumper sticker: "Republicans for Kerry."
I am disturbed by the vitriol on both sides, though. Post election is going to be pretty ugly, at least for a while.
Does anyone else imagine that sex in the Hunt/Woodruff boudoir is a matter of trying NOT to muss anyone's hair?
If I wanted to average about a dozen Presidentail polls, I'm thinking it would not be statistically acceptable to average polls which entertained different candidates (i.e. some of the polls did not include Nader). Or, can I get away with this if I just ignore Nader's percentages throughout?
Also, when averaging polls, is it acceptable to just average the margins-of-error for all the polls used in the average? Or, do I also need to somehow take into account sample-numbers or any other factors.
I might be giving a short speech next week and I'd love to include some poll data in a concise way, but I don't want to screw it up with ignorant mistakes.
that is 2% of my workforce. most of them women earning just above the minimum wage.
why is it just women? are you paying your male employees more?
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