I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Brilliant words from, perhaps, our next Secretary of State?
--stu
Gotta love that turn-around time!
Holy Mother of God, that was fast!
Ever see Andre Agassi, in his prime, spit some guy's best 120-mph serve back at his feet?
Game, set, and match, Kerry.
Kick ass, Wes.
BINGO!
SSSSSNAP!
Hopefully this will be heard and processed by people who aren't necessarily in Kerry's camp already. It's fine passing notes among your friends; it's better to get the word out to those who are, for some reason, undecided.
Nice, Clark has gotten better and better at this campaigning thing as time has gone by.
He's part of my soliloquy
OT: Missing Absentee Ballots in Florida
Don't forget to rate the story.
http://tinyurl.com/57fc3
Damn, I really like Wes Clark. I would have considered voting for him in the primary if he just had more experience.
Yeah....!!!! Lets have everyone repeat the Generals Refrain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Yeah....!!!! Lets have everyone repeat the Generals Refrain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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SWB, you fucktards can't break Haloscan no more.
Sucks, huh.
"Brilliant words from, perhaps, our next Secretary of State?"
--stu
Big Dog as Secretary of State. How about Clark as Secretary of Defense?
I want Wes Clark for either State or Defense. If the latter, give Richard Clark his old job back, and let the two of 'em do this right.
Mars, bitches!!!
~ahem~ no = any
Yoshimi -- there's been some delicious noise about Big Dog as Secretary General of the U.N. Wouldn't that play with the wignuts' heads?
OK, which one of you clowns is Wesley Clark?
Nice try, mouthbreather
OH, and what cabinet position for Al Gore?
Maybe no cabinet position, but special prosecutor investigating the myriad Bush crimes.
Wow, that was quick.
How fast will the blogsphere run when the world runs at the speed of the blogsphere?
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Let's just make him God and be done with it.
(By the way, since blogspot's been back up, I've noticed a status bar at the bottom edge of the haloscan window that shows the url of highlighted links. Very nice. My compliments to the programmer. Thank you. It's much appreciated. I like it.)
Go Wes go! I'm hearing Gen. Clark might run for Governor of Arkansas. But could easily fit into a Kerry cabinet.
Clark can't be Secretary of Defense. He hasn't been out of the military long enough.
I had to access the recent threads through Atrios' post avec "homepage" down in the Snitchens thread. I still can't get the updated threads through internet explorer.
Wesley Clark's DA MAN!!
"Clark can't be Secretary of Defense. He hasn't been out of the military long enough."
-Vicki Stein
Are you saying he isn't civilian enough? After Rumsfeld, I'm ready for a Secretary who has actually served.
I live in the Bay Area, and there's a Fox team of morning guys who were trying to spin their way out of the 380 tons of explosives today. It was fun to watch them squirm. "These explosives might have been gone before the 101st got there, right?" The guy they had on was sticking to the facts and shooting down all their arguments. My favorite line was, "To say that these explosives or weapons or whatever are in the hands of the insurgents is just speculation, isn't it? We don't know who has them..." Oh, man, I love to hear people lose on their own show.
Vicki,
I've been aboe to get the newer posts through the Archive link. It lets you see new posts in IE by refreshing the page.
http://atrios.blogspot.com/
2004_...os_archive.html
Unless blogspot really is back up and you don't need it...
Holden -- I think putting Al in charge of the EPA would be fantastic. Or else getting him to start the coordination and infrastructure of Internet 2.0.
Someone tried to run Katherin Harris over.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLIT...tack/
index.html
Clark can't be Secretary of Defense. He hasn't been out of the military long enough.
-Vicki Stein
All the rules the rethugs have broken and we can't get one little exception on time limits?
Sheesh!!!
Oh, and Big Dog as head of the UN, Clark as Secretary of State...heh heh, send the neocons to the Hague!
Guess who won movie villian of the year?
It ain't Doc Oc.
Holden -- I think putting Al in charge of the EPA would be fantastic. Or else getting him to start the coordination and infrastructure of Internet 2.0.
filkertom
That's a good idea, although I was holding out for RFK, Jr., as head of EPA.
Amen.
Stuntwoman -- jeeeezus. No, no, no, no, no. We're the good guys. Once you start down the path to the Dark Side, forever will it dominate your destiny.
Holden -- I think putting Al in charge of the EPA would be fantastic. Or else getting him to start the coordination and infrastructure of Internet 2.0.
filkertom
That's a good idea, although I was holding out for RFK, Jr., as head of EPA.
Holden Caulfield | Email | Homepage | 10.27.04 - 2:07 pm
I could work with that. Or maybe Al could do Interior. The Park Service needs a drastic overhaul after the last four years.
Oh, and Big Dog as head of the UN, Clark as Secretary of State...heh heh, send the neocons to the Hague!
Isn't there room for more than one of our good guys for posts at the Pentagon, EPA and State? On PBS' Frontline last night they were talking about how the head of any agency is the person who's the public face of the agency and the deputy is the guy running the building.
Let's get 'em all on board!
Yoshimi beat me to it. Clark for Sec. of Defense, so that we have someone who's actually SERVED and UNDERSTANDS what's required.
oh, and Stunt Woman, thanks for that. I had a good laugh. Katherine Harris should be so lucky as to get hit by a car.
Wes Clark kicks deserting shitbag ass.
Wooooooot! Go Wes go!
As for appointments, it's Big Dog for Chief Justice. To cause Rethuglican pea brains to implode. It will be delicious.
well i too believe that we should have "the facts".
now there is a cia report that reportedly affixes blame&names names concerning the events surrounding 9-11-01. as in-who fucked up and didn't heed the warnings that were coming from the intel agencies.
now president georgie, how can i make a judgement concerning this report if i don't "all the facts".
now please release this report president georgie.
i mean, you aren't covering anything up here, now are you?
I've been wondering about where Clark's been. And this is totally silly speculation, but if Kerry had chosen him instead of Edwards (who I like a lot), the Repub meme that Kerry's not fit to be Commander in Chief would have gone right out the window. Of course, the meme itself is silly ...
Clark responding to Bush, Kerry responding to Cheney, in nearly real-time.
Gotta love it.
And CNN is gonna explode if they spin any harder. It's really kinda icky to watch.
I had to access the recent threads through Atrios' post avec "homepage" down in the Snitchens thread. I still can't get the updated threads through internet explorer.
Vicki Stein
I just go to archives on the Atrios home page on the left, scroll all the way down to the bottom archive.
Um Wesley, you think you could have been a little humble and given that line to Kerry? That would have sealed the election if it came out of Kerry's mouth and was blasted all over mainstream media. I get the strange feeling that because it was you who said it the only place I'm going to read those lines is right here.
I was originally a Clark supporter, but he was out long before the GA primary. I was disappointed when Kerry didn't pick him for VP. What foreign policy credentials THAT team would have had!
Clinton can't be "head" of the UN. The President of the US doesn't have the authority to appoint the Secretary General. Clinton can, however, be UN ambassador. And if it hadn't been for his little peccadillos, he'd also be a shoo-in for the Supreme Court (Taft served on the Court after his presidency).
I read that Katherine Harris had her head run over but she just got back up like it was no big deal. Her head was a little more anvil shaped than before.
“…a political candidate who jumps to conclusions without knowing the facts is not a person you want as your Commander in Chief."
hahahahahahahahahaha!
George W. Bush has got to be the most absent minded idiot ever to inhabite the white house.
MYOB'
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Vicki:
Try hitting refresh, while holding down Ctrl key.
I read that Katherine Harris had her head run over but she just got back up like it was no big deal. Her head was a little more anvil shaped than before.
I heard the shape was cause by an accident akin to Stewie jumping on the bed while on Brian's watch.
"What the deuce are you staring at"
"nothing."
I believe Sen. Carl Levin of Michigan will likely get State or Defense ... you may also see Dick Holbrooke, a brilliant man and a steady hand, in there somewhere.
I read that Katherine Harris had her head run over but she just got back up like it was no big deal. Her head was a little more anvil shaped than before.
I heard the shape was cause by an accident akin to Stewie jumping on the bed while on Brian's watch.
"What the deuce are you staring at"
"nothing."
shit, my bad
Clark can't be Sec of Def. You have to be out of the military for longer than Clark's been out of the military - I think it's ten years.
"To say that these explosives or weapons or whatever are in the hands of the insurgents is just speculation, isn't it? We don't know who has them..."
I mean... Jimmy Hoffa could have them, right?
Clark for Sec. of Defense, so that we have someone who's actually SERVED and UNDERSTANDS what's required.
I don't think Clark can be SecDef: he hasn't been out of the military long enough, and there's a what, 10-year cutoff? He'll be in the mix somewhere, but not there.
Somebody in Florida would deserve an 'attaboy', but he missed.
oops. This idiot put an 'e' on the end of 'inhabit'.
I guess I should vote republican now?
MYOB'
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Here comes the cavalry! Time for Kerry to bring up all of the reserves.
How about Clark as Secretary of Defense?
Clark is prohibited by law from being Secretary of Defense until he has been out of uniformed service for 10 years.
He'd make a great Secretary of State. I doubt Clinton will take a cabinet position -- I can more see Kerry using him an occasional "special envoy" as Clinton did with Carter, or a more regular special envoy for, say, Middle East peace.
He might also make a good UN Secretary-General. Sure, its not a Presidential appointment, but the US has some sway, and while pushing a US candidate would be unusual, Clinton personally has a lot of international regard and might go over well.
Guys, guys. No violence against public officials. No violence against anyone. We are the heroes here. The Good Guys do not want someone run over by a car.
Although I think she'd look great making the license plates for 'em....
Clark for Sec. of Defense, so that we have someone who's actually SERVED and UNDERSTANDS what's required.
Just as a point of information, I think Rummy was in the Air Force. The "understands" part is definitely valid, though, as would be "cares about."
re: Sen. Carl Levin in the Cabinet--can we afford to give up Democratic Senate seats--what would happen if Levin gives up his seat for a cabinet position? does the governor appoint or is there a special election?
OT, but you should check out this rap song:
Catastrophic Success
Anyone see the KAtherine Harris Story?
(http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/
20041027/ap_on_re_us/harris_assault)
Smells like a KARL ROVE set-up to gain Florida voters' sympathy. Any thoughts???
Anyone see the KAtherine Harris Story?
(http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/
20041027/ap_on_re_us/harris_assault)
Smells like a KARL ROVE set-up to gain Florida voters' sympathy. Any thoughts???
anonymous at 2:34 was me. the "internets" suck today.
This from the moron who had to have a British general tell him to go stuff his orders, because he wanted to block a runway in case of incoming Russian planes.
Anonymous makes a good point.
I'd like McCain if he'd take it. If not, Sam Nunn or Gary Hart (although Hart would also be a good NSA, as would Anthony Zinni).
I could just hug that Wesley. MWAH!!!
Ohhhh, avestus, you sound disgruntled, angry and violent. Understandable give that your man george is 5 days away from the most embarassing loss in political history. The Freepers are looking for women (or men) like you. Now shoo!
Clark as Sec Defense
Clarke as NSA or Dir. Homeland Security
Gore as Sec of Interior
Kennedy, Jr. as EPA Head
Clinton as Sec State (If he can handle it physically)
Carter as Ambassador to UN
Avestus,
Thanks for the drool.
Clark told Gen. Jackson to go to hell, they did in fact block the Russians, and the Russians backed down.
That's called being a "resolute leader", instead of playing one on TV.
When you learn how to read, you should check WAGING MODERN WAR out of the hospital library.
Avestus, your deserting sack of shit is going down.
Choke on it, chickenhawk.
Big Dog as Secretary of State. How about Clark as Secretary of Defense?
I want Wes Clark for either State or Defense. If the latter, give Richard Clark his old job back, and let the two of 'em do this right.
How many times must this be explained? Clark CANNOT BE Secretary of Defense. The National Security Act of 1947 prohibits the selection of a Sec of Defense who has served in the military within the last ten years, unless the President requests a waiver from Congress. Unless Kerry has some huge cojone coattails, that probably won't happen.
With all due respect to Senator Levin, who is well regarded in Michigan, we need him in the Senate.
I don't know who would run to replace him, but I have this sneaking suspicion that the ambitious Bill Hardiman, a State Senator from Kentwood (Grand Rapids area), would try on the opposing side. I do not like Hardiman, it's probably my own prejudice in that he was big time into piously promoting these "family values" programs when he was Mayor of Kentwood, all the while being very friendly with a woman I know who is a psychopathic liar. I'm not saying he did anything unscrupulous, I'm just saying that anyone who is friendly with this particular woman has bad judgment. He's too conservative. Oh well, doesn't really matter for the purpose of this blog.
Gary Frazier at Interior! (gotta get those ducks in a row, y'know)
This from the moron who had to have a British general tell him to go stuff his orders, because he wanted to block a runway in case of incoming Russian planes.
Yo, dog dick. Clark is a Rhodes Scholar who at the time was SUPREME ALLIED COMMANDER OF NATO.
You really do not want to get into the military thing as there is a big fucking debacle going on currently in Iraq that is part and parcel the fault of your heroes. You will get your dick fed to you.
Fuck you, you half-witted peabrain.
No McCain! No McCain! We don't want no stinkin' McCain! Where was he when John O'Neill and crew were trying to take Kerry down? He burped a hollow reprimand. Kerry can do better than McCain.
Boom shacka lacka lacka!
fuck mccain. lugar maybe
I read that Katherine Harris had her head run over but she just got back up like it was no big deal. Her head was a little more anvil shaped than before.
Christ, you just know that schlacked hair of hers could puncture rhinoskin? Who would want to run over her badly enough to ruin a set of perfectly good tires?
I don't think Clark can be SecDef: he hasn't been out of the military long enough, and there's a what, 10-year cutoff?
Who fucking cares? We need someone good and decent and strong to repair the horrible damage Rumsfeld has done.
It's not like he'd be VP, handing out government contracts to the very company he was CEO of the year before.
It's not like he would be shaping our foreign policy to line the pockets of his Saudi masters.
Clark is qualified. If he would accept the position, I say give it to him. The GOPranos don't care about breaking the rules to betray democracy. Why should we care about changing the rules to do something right?
How about John O'Neill as as Secretary of Being Poked by a Stick for Four Years?
How about John O'Neill as as Secretary of Being Poked by a Stick for Four Years?
"This from the moron who had to have a British general tell him to go stuff his orders, because he wanted to block a runway in case of incoming Russian planes.
Avestus | Email | Homepage | 10.27.04 - 2:36 pm | #"
What?! Why'd you do THAT?
Has anyone mentioned Paul Krugman for Treasury yet?
I really like the idea of Gore in the Cabinet. Is this a possibility?
I don't think I could trust McCain at DOD. It's too political, too heavily-funded. I'd prefer someone with more actual command experience.
But I do think McCain could be great as Secretary of VA. That's not exactly a loaded weapon we'd be handing him, and he has a direct personal interest in seeing that agency run properly. It's not (usually) a heavily politicized position, and the department could benefit greatly from having a popular, well-known advocate like McCain, who can speak with some knowledge about those issues. Also, it could go a long way to mend the venomous, divisive atmosphere that Caligula has created.
It would have the added benefit of loosening up a senate seat for a special election, which we could possibly win. And that is probably why he'd never accept.
I say fuck mccain too. Supporting chimpy instead of showing backbone is the lowest of the low. Chimpy McSmirk has the Manure touch. Everything he touches turns to shit.
Hillary for Attorney General!
The wingers are frantic not because W is going down--I believe they know in their hearts he's a pig--it's because they think they made the mistake of putting all their eggs in the neocon basket. They are terrified that every success they've had moving their traditional conservative issues into the mainstream is going to go down to the inky bottom along with these criminals they backed.
Some, such as Robertson, are already yanking at those knots trying to disconnect themselves from the sinking ship, and others will follow, but most of the regular suckers who got conned are hopelessly strapped to W and his anchor.
I've no sympathy. They had three years to untie themselves and swim to safety. Three years and tens of thousands of lives.
fuck 'em. Let 'em drown.
Since we're offering up dream nominations, can I humbly suggest the following:
Bruce Springsteen for Governor of New Jersey.
Seraphiel:
It matters if Clark can be Sec of Defense if he doesn't qualify under the law. This isn't a "rule;" it's a LAW. Clark cannot be Sec of Defence, as per the National Security Act of 1947. Section Two, I believe. One person has been secretary of Defense outside the limit, but that had to be approved by Congress (I think it was an Eisenhower appointment). Like it or not, we do believe in upholding laws here, don't we? And if we don't like the laws we work to CHANGE them, rather than violating them. That's what grown-ups do.
Just because we WANT something doesn't mean we can have it.
Clark will probably be a Sec. of Defense (or more) someday. Just not yet.
After Rumsfeld, I'm ready for a Secretary who has actually served.
Rumsfeld is one of the rare few members of this administration who *did* serve.
US Navy, 1953-1957. I've heard it bandied about that he was a pilot, but I haven't seen anything that would confirm or refute it...
Since we're offering up dream nominations, can I humbly suggest the following:
Emily Saliers of the Indigo Girls for
the Department of GLBT Affairs.
I'd like to see the Big Dog as SecState. Clark as NSA, or State if they decide to put Clinton in the Supreme Court.
Bruce Springsteen for Governor of New Jersey.
Last I checked, that was an elected position, not an appointment.
Might not be a bad idea to change that, though. Any state that can't trust its residents to pump their own gasoline shouldn't trust them to elect their leaders, either. 
Rudy Giuliani for White House Pinata!
I'm with Vicki. NO McCAIN! NO WAY!
UNLESS... he comes to his senses in the next 48 hours and jumps ship.
"Senator McCain. You have 48 hours to come out of the House of Treasonable Fantasy with your honor intact!"
/megaphone voice
I just thought that McCain would have the bona fides to cut the mountains of pork that infest the Defense Budget.
Personally, I like Max Cleland better for VA.
Anyone else see the irony of the repukes saying, "Don't let the terrorists sway the American people about who to vote for.", then complaining that ABC news is not releasing the video so that it can sway the american people about who to vote for?
Rumsfailed was a Navy pilot and flight instructor. Actually landed planes on carriers.
His only skill, other than answering his own questions.
Wesley Clark for Secretary of State. See Marshall, George C.
Wapiti,
I'm not 100% sure about this, but I don't think my/our hero, Bill Clinton, is eligible for the Supreme Court, since he was disbarred due to the Monica fiasco. You can thank the SCLM for that travesty. Ann Coulter, Laura Ingraham, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh (I'd add David Brock to the list, but he has seen the light, so I don't want to be too harsh on him)...
You know, they're right. We DON'T know that the explosives looted from Al Qaqua went to the insurgents.
Chalabi could've arranged for them to be shipped to the Iranians for their nuke program. He had the financing to do so, right? He certainly had the connections at both ends.
Don't you feel MUUUUCHHH better now?
LJ -- sorry, I didn't know about the time limitation. No Clark, then.
bebe:
i'll forgive the double post 'cuz that was pretty funny!
I've heard the Clinton as Secretary General rumor, as well. Bklyn Girl, technically you are correct, the US President doesn't appoint the SG, but we do have a HUGE bargaining chip. I have sources close to the Dem party who claim that Clinton agreed to stump for Kerry in exchange for nomination. The leverage we have is the billions in back fees we owe the UN. We pay what we owe in exchange for Big Dog as SG.
Oh, and fuck McCain. He has made his choice, and he chose the wrong horse. He is not to be trusted.
Clark for NSA? Maybe Rand Beers as NSA, Clark as Sec State, and Gen Zinni as Sec Def?
Jeez, if every lawyer I know personally who is or has had an extramarital affair was disbarred, there would go about 80% of the American Bar Assoc.
Rock on Wesley! Great statement: "George W. Bush is unfit to be our Commander in Chief."
cannot be said often enough.
I take it back - there would go 80% of the Dallas Bar Association. I don't personally know 80% of the lawyers in the ABA.
Well I'll second that for the New Orleans Bar Ass'n.
Please somebody explain to me what is going on with haloscan. I am on all different posts and they keep disappearing. I feel like I am in the twilight Zone.
haloscan and blospot are totally fucked today. Eschaton keeps disappearing or reappearing with last night's posts, and haloscan can't seem to remember who anyone is--thus my numerous "anonymous" posts
I could just hug that Wesley. MWAH!!!
Brooklyn Girl; I think the UN Sec'y General speculation is that Clinton is so popular in the world, UN delegates would elect him to head the organization. It would give the UN a big boost in prestige and power. Technically, the next SG is supposed to come from an Asian country, but I suspect exceptions could be made.
Glad to hear from Clark. Wonder if his comments will get picked up in any mainstream media.
on cnn, some guys been arrested for trying to run over ms harris with his car. he said they were obstructing traffic. this boy may need some turkee.
Did I just hear somebody on CNN saying
that Bush's numbers with evangelicals
are down like fifty percent?
That means we just won!!
Oh, and by the way, I agree with
Vicki -- fuck McCain. As Krugman
said, Kerry should not be magnanimous.
I'm not 100% sure about this, but I don't think my/our hero, Bill Clinton, is eligible for the Supreme Court, since he was disbarred due to the Monica fiasco.
There's no requirement for a Supreme Court to be a lawyer. It would be tough to confirm him, though...
TJ
Thank you-I felt I was the only one who was seeing posts coming and going
For a moment there I didn't know where I was.
I'm not 100% sure about this, but I don't think my/our hero, Bill Clinton, is eligible for the Supreme Court, since he was disbarred due to the Monica fiasco.
The eligibility requirements for the Supreme Court are:
1) Be appointed by the President,
2) Be confirmed by the Senate.
Anything else is merely a desirable qualification, not an eligibility requirement.
General Clark was my first choice.
Now John Kerry is the only choice.
Clark is qualified. If he would accept the position, I say give it to him. The GOPranos don't care about breaking the rules to betray democracy. Why should we care about changing the rules to do something right?
Its not a matter of caring. The Congress -- including the almost-certain-to-remain-Republican-majority House of Representatives would have to agree.
Its not going to happen in the real world.
I'm sure we can find someone competent to be SecDef who wasn't in uniformed service in the last decade.
it pains me to come to von rumsfeld's defense, but he was a navy pilot. all during peacetime, i believe, but landing on carriers is pretty hairy even without a war going on.
Bob Graham for Dir. of CIA
filkertom: Guys, guys. No violence against public officials. No violence against anyone. We are the heroes here. The Good Guys do not want someone run over by a car.
Although I think she'd look great making the license plates for 'em....
But she'd look soooooo much better as a "sail Kat."
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And if we don't like the laws we work to CHANGE them
That is what I said, is it not?
Go back and read my post.
The Lies May be Worse Than the Crime:
Just as Bush and Cheney are pushing the line that "it's possible the high explosives at al Qaqaa went missing before US troops secured the site," the Iraqi government is saying it ISSUED CERITIFED STATEMENTS that nothing was disturbed at the site prior to US control of Iraq, and that the US PROVISIONAL AUTHORITY WAS AWARE OF THESE STATEMENTS."
http://tinyurl.com/6lvd3
Please God, somebody fry Bush/Cheney for pushing a line about these explosives that they know is false. Hello, mainstream media?
OH, and what cabinet position for Al Gore?
Maybe no cabinet position, but special prosecutor investigating the myriad Bush crimes.
Holden Caulfield
Yessssssssssssss!
Wes Clark effing rules.
Seraphiel:
It won't happen in time to make Clark Sec. of Defense. Good grief, how long does it take to get anything done in Congress that's good for Democrats?
Heard the notion of Clinton for UN Sec Genr'l on Air America the other day, and it was immediately shot down. Secretary General can't come from any of the five permanent members of the Security Council.
Too bad really. I'd have liked to have seen that. Supreme Court, I think I like that even better...
I can't force any kind of a web access to
Eschaton today - none. Not with Opera,
not with Mozilla, not with IE, nothing.
But Lynx still works, good!
the way i heard it, clinton was disbarred by the state of arkansas. he could probably be admitted to the bar in some other state.
i'd rather not see any sitting officeholders appointed to cabinet positions. there are plenty of good people who are not currently in elected office. maybe it would be good to offer some things to republican officeholders though. . .
Off Topic:
Excellent post from the Rude Pundit.
'John Kerry - Superhero'
http://tinyurl.com/6b2my
or click the home page.
"Here's the deal - what's been missing from the entire Kerry campaign is just how tough a motherfucker John Kerry really, actually is, and it's got jackshit to do with hunting geese and killing the Vietcong. Kerry is a superhero, the kind of valiant son of a bitch who doesn't give a rat's ass about his own life in order to make the lives of others better. It's his post-Vietnam life that makes him a superhero. You don't know how much a superhero the man in the cape is by his origins. You know a superhero by his deeds. And if Kerry loses, it'll be because his campaign refused to acknowledge just how kick-ass Kerry has been since his final purple heart (and if Kerry loses, adviser Bob Shrum, who, in essence, said the public was too stupid to understand Kerry's accomplishments, should be strung up by his balls and batted around like a pinata by the Democratic party leadership until he bursts open and showers everyone with his innards).
MYOB'
I don't think Clinton should be anything other than a popular ex-president and occasional special envoy, really... it's best for him, & for the party, to be above the fray as much as possible. We don't need any Republicans at Treasury, State, or Defense, because they've been coasting for far too long on their perceived (and incorrect) advantage in these areas & we don't need to support that. McCain at the VA would be great, but I agree that he won't give up his Senate seat... and we can't lose any of our Senators to the Kerry administration either. Gore's not a lawyer, which means that while he theoretically could be on the Supreme Court & would probably even do a good job, it'd be really hard to get him confirmed. Actually, IMO Hillary Clinton would be great on the SC, but as I said above, we can't afford to risk a Senate seat.
I really don't have a place for Clark at this point... I'm not inclined to for us to have military types in charge at State, because I think it makes other nations even more wary of us, regardless of party affiliation or moderate leanings.
Repeat: Clinton does not have to be a member of ANY bar to be on the Supreme Court. All that is required is nomination by the President and confirmation by the Senate. No other qualifications exist.
Glowstick - you know we can't trust anyone in the Iraqi government... they are all a bunch of lying murderers...oh... err... wait... this is the government we selected? Never mind.
Clinton can't be "head" of the UN. The President of the US doesn't have the authority to appoint the Secretary General.
Brooklyn Girl:
While you are correct that the U.S. President does not have the power to appoint the U.N. Secretary General, that doesn't mean that Clinton is not a prime candidate for U.N. Secretary General. He is. I don't have a link handy, but google it - there's a lot of noise about him throwing his hat in the ring, and he would garner enormous international support.
This from the moron who had to have a British general tell him to go stuff his orders, because he wanted to block a runway in case of incoming Russian planes.
Avestus:
yes, very succinct explanation of this tense situation.
Mo' betta trolls, please.
All this McCain chat. We know he wiffed in the clutch, but Joe Public still see him as a likeable guy and a hero. So, who do you think will run against Kerry -Edwards in 2008? McCain? Do we use a preemptive move to include him rather than leave a popular moderate out there as a primary challenger?
I'll throw in Hackworth's name for Secretary of Defense.
David Boies - Attorney General
pains me to come to von rumsfeld's defense, but he was a navy pilot. all during peacetime
yes, he joined as soon as the korean war was over. coincidence, i'm sure.
Hackworth's value is an outsider with inside knowledge exposing the bullshit.
He's not enough of an organization man, I'm afraid, to be put in charge of the circus.
the ten year thing for secretary-ship from military service can't be correct. powell retired from the army in '95.
J.T.
Warlord of Silver Spring
"Mars, Bitches!"
I know Atrios has new posts -- saw them in my aggregator but can't get too them. Can anyone help?
Kucinich -- Secretary of Peace
Secretary General can't come from any of the five permanent members of the Security Council
I believe that he traditionally has not, but could. The rest of the world loves Bill Clinton and, as noted above, we could offer to pay the UN what we owe. It would make the wingnuts so crazy it'd be worth it.
I thought Clark said in his 9/11 testimony he would not accept any position in a Kerry administation.
David Boies - Attorney General
Nah, he's an overrated hack.
Nevermind, I figured it out. Getting to Eschaton has been difficult all day.
Do all you liberals have your lead suits ready if Kerry gets elected, slashes intelligence, military budgets and lets terrorists run amok?
I'm from MA. and know all about the little senator.
Unfortunately, Rumsfeld was in the Navy. 
Why not Gore for the Supreme Court? That would be the ultimate payback.
He was in Berkeley last night to talk about global warming: http://tinyurl.com/6mcyy
It's not a hard and fast rule, I think, that the UN SecGen has to come from outside the Security Council, but it's a long-established principle. Checks and balances. I don't think the ambassadorship role would suit the Big Dog, though: too NY-based. Better just to have him as a special envoy.
I'd rather not have Rand Beers as NSA, for his positions on Latin America, either. Holbrooke for State, though.
Me - ambassador to South Korea or India.
I can dream, can't I? And I'm probably qualified...
A senator sails off Nantucket
Large is the size of his bucket
He flips and he flops
He swerves and he stops
But from his record
He just cannot duck it
Flopsy is a good name for a Republican. I imagine quite a few of them are in a flop sweat right about now, as they realize Kerry's going to win by a landslide.
Flopsy - "Do you liberals have your lead suits ready, blah blah blah"
No, do you have your passport ready? I'm hoping you and your kind decide to split after the country gets back to sanity when Kerry is president. I'm encouraging that, strongly; you won't be happy here with progressive policies happening and no brain dead Jesus freaks running things.
"OH, and what cabinet position for Al Gore?
"Maybe no cabinet position, but special prosecutor investigating the myriad Bush crimes.
Holden Caulfield
Yessssssssssssss!
Elaine in NY"
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Why not someone with a more go-for-the-throat demeanor - I think Dean would be a great special prosecutor.
I'm from MA. and know all about the little senator.
Flopsy
Get out of my fucking garden, you fucking rabbit!
cs -
go in through archives.
I posted this elsewhere but I have a dream that there are massive rethuglican suicides after Georgie's concession speech.
Do all you liberals have your lead suits ready if Kerry gets elected, slashes intelligence, military budgets and lets terrorists run amok?
We only need lead boots as we are going to kick your asses so bad you'll have to take your hat off to defecate.
No, do you have your passport ready? I'm hoping you and your kind decide to split after the country gets back to sanity when Kerry is president.
Where would they go?
They hate the Constitution and everything it is meant to protect. They like war, and arrogance. They are loathed througout the world. If they left here, they would be forever adrift on the seas, unwelcome everywhere they tried to infest with their stupidity. There's no country on the planet that would take them in.
And so, there is only one place left for them to go:
M. A. R. S.
(Mars, bitches.)
Why not someone with a more go-for-the-throat demeanor - I think Dean would be a great special prosecutor.
Texan Embsd by Bush
Dean is a Dr., not a lawyer.
Then again, Gore never finished his law degree as far as I know.
I posted this elsewhere but I have a dream that there are massive rethuglican suicides after Georgie's concession speech.
krsaz | Email | Homepage | 10.27.04 - 4:21 pm | #
I love my dead gay son!
I just heard something interesting from a co-worker who has government connections regarding Secretary of Defense. Co-worker says that Kerry will select Senator Carl Levin. I said, "No! We need him in the senate!" However, Levin is respected.
Co-worker then says speculation is that Governor Granholm appoints herself to Levin's Senate Seat. That wouldn't surprise me; Granholm is very ambitious ~ a mover and a shaker.
John Cherry would then be our governor, and that's good. Environmentally, that would be great for Michigan.
Also, co-worker's source says internals look very good for Kerry (we know that, though).
Anyway, speculation and gossip, fwiw.
I will be a president who believes in science!"
-John Kerry, just now
Bush is to stupidity as black-hole is to gravity.
Hecate for Attorney General.
flipsy flopsy!
i like it.
I don't think we should be so hard on McCain. I believe that his ultimate goal (if not to be president) is to bring the republican party back to the moderate state it was in before the neocons and religious right got control. To do that, he has to have the respect of the moderates in the party, and refusing to stand with a republican president would not be useful.
I have read that Richard Lugar might be someone Kerry would want in a government position. He has spoken out a good bit this year.
Flopsy, I'm from MA too, and I can say, with a reasonable amount of assurance, you're a moron.
Oregonian 10/26/04
Robert Landauer:
It's a matter of our doing things right
Item: Many Americans question whether it was necessary to invade Iraq. Yet they honor all the military men and women who honorably answer the nation's call to duty. They especially appreciate the sacrifice of 7,500-plus Americans wounded and grieve that more than 1,100 have died.
The president customarily sends a note of condolence to the families of military personnel who die pursuing or defending the nation's interests. It's an appropriate signal that our highest elected official recognizes that the life of every person ordered into harm's way, no matter how humble his or her origins, is precious to the nation as well as to immediate family.
So I was shocked, saddened and angered when I read my co-worker Steve Duin's Oct. 16 column regarding the death of Army Spc. Joseph Blickenstaff of Corvallis in a Stryker combat vehicle accident. The president "sent the Blickenstaff family a form letter with a stamped signature," Duin reported
Indeed, the certificate has a reproduced signature. That's not compassionate. It's impersonal, cold and shabby.
http://www.oregonlive.com/news/
o...92311326020.xml
I don't think we should be so hard on McCain.
I'm torn by this: I wouldn't be surprised if, in years to come, we found out that McCain was actually playing for both sides. I don't know why I think that, but it just intrigues me.
Blogger dumped about 1:00 am last night. I got back about on 1:00 pm this afternoon. Refresh dumped me again. Just got back on. What is going on with blogspot? I can't get to any blogspot site.
RFK, Jr. as head of EPA? -- I don't think so. Much as I'd like to see that, I don't think he'd be able to get past the whole ex-heroin user thang. Granted, nobody's suggesting he become Drug Czar . . .
Elliot Spitzer for Attorney General.
And give the man a copy of Starr's blank check to go after Republican war criminals - no matter where they try to hide.
Flopsweat--er-Floppy--that just stunk.
will be an all out attack on Fallujah. More Americans killed so Bush can be re-elected. The media should get onto this and show it up for the unseamly ploy it is.
Sorry. Meant to say the October surprise will be etc.
Jay in Oregon, that is a disgusting revelation, though not, unfortunately, beyond what we could expect of this President.
Given that he assumed there would be no casualties, you'd think the jerk would actually write a letter, or even just actually sign a letter to the family of the soldiers he sent out to die.
No, do you have your passport ready? I'm hoping you and your kind decide to split after the country gets back to sanity when Kerry is president. I'm encouraging that, strongly; you won't be happy here with progressive policies happening and no brain dead Jesus freaks running things.
Tena
awh, Tena, you know that rethugs don't believe in passports, means they might have to leave the bestest country in the world
(and have thir eyes opened)
This from the moron who had to have a British general tell him to go stuff his orders, because he wanted to block a runway in case of incoming Russian planes.
The British General was the moron in this instance (as he was in the Bloody Sunday massacre). Clark was following instructions from his superiors at NATO HQ. And he was right - NATO did NOT need the Russians in Pristina mucking things up. Remember Berlin - that's what they wanted to avoid? Anyway, the Russians backed off and the Brit General looked like a scared little drama queen. End of story. Dig up some other silly Freeper talking point - that one came from Clark himself and his version has been backed up by everyone except the Brit in question.
Zell Miller for...?
I can't of a position low enough for dear Zell.
What about Shinseki for Defense?
I know he's retired, don't know if that'd be a problem. But wouldn't the revenge be sweet?
Or rather, sweeeeeeeeet!
For the person above who mentioned boies for AG: he won't take it. AGs don't get to go to court, he'd be too bored. And on Charlie rose the other night he said he was too old for the Supreme Court. Even though he's only 63, he wants Kerry to name a 43 yr old.
Clark for State, even though I believe the Senate would waive the 10 yr requirement if he was put forward for Defense. Clinton for Chief Justice.
Zell Miller could be the mop guy at the local porn theatre.
doh!
"I can't THINK of a position low enough for dear Zell."
preznit - My point was that once Kerry is president, it won't be their "bestest country in the world" anymore. It will make them all unhappy and I think they should all get together and go somewhere where they will be appreciated.
Like North Korea.
Bravo, Wes! Now lets see some cable newsies give you an invite to spread the word.
Yeh, be hard on McCain, he is all talk but when it comes time to get the job done he blew it. Standing next to shrub on the plane did it for me, vote him out let him waste away in the desert, he deserves some retirement time. It is time to get a whole new crew in there to really reflect america and do some good. Too many good old boys dominate those committees and then sell out to the corporate fascists. Let's sweep all the bums out, make them squirm a little for their offices. Complacent incumbents get too comfortable in there. Send a letter to your representative and if you get a form letter back then boot him.
Elliot Spitzer for Attorney General.
Hell yes. Let the prosecutions begin.
Jamie Gorelick for Attorney General. She has top level Justice Department experience--no OJT for her.
Flopsy was here before saying the same thing. Silly rabbit.
Tricks are for kids. Time for the grownups to run the country.
Do all you liberals have your lead suits ready if Kerry gets elected, slashes intelligence, military budgets and lets terrorists run amok?
I'm from MA. and know all about the little senator.
Plenty of us here from Texas know all about the little governor. We'll take our chances with the Yankee.
And oh yeah, Clark for State. The world would breathe a sigh of relief to have a grownup to deal with and not some petulant crank talking about Old Europe and Freedom Fries and Axis of Evil.
Wes is my hero. I love a guy who just lays it out like that.
That release probably made chimpy really, really mad. He's off stomping his tiny feet even as I type.
On behalf of rabbits eveywhere, I wish to assure you that "Flopsy" does not represent the views of the vast majority of Leporidae Americans.
- that one came from Clark himself and his version has been backed up by everyone except the Brit in question. Monty Lite.
Look at y'all counting your chickens before they hatch!
I wouldn't be so cure of things if I was you.
Maybe in San Francisco or Phili things are different, but here in the hearland Bush is wining big, as far as I can tell.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Bush pick up Wisc., Iowa and Minn, which would guarantee him the election.
The Brit, not Wes.
IMHO, McCain will not take a cabinet position. That would be a big impediment to him running in '08 and that is exactly what he wants to do. He sold his soul to remain a loyal republican for that very purpose.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Bush pick up Wisc., Iowa and Minn, which would guarantee him the election.
Nah, just delusional.
Someone upthread asked about the 10 year requirement before someone like Clark could be Sec. of Defense. Powell didn't have the waiting period since he's Sec. of State. It's only for defense, because they think a civilian making decisions would keep the gung ho military types from getting carried away with expensive toys and fully trained troops with not much to do in peace times.
texaschilibean, how's Bush doing in the American liver? Gall bladder? Pancreas?
I'm sure he's doing great with the great American sphincter.
Sphincter is perhaps the funniest word ever created.
Hey flopsy: repeat after me. "President Kerry, Pres-i-dent Ke-rry" get used to it.
Your Chimperor is going back to txas, Conecticutt, Maine, St. Helena, Epsilon Gamma IX or where ever it is the incompetent fool came from. And the country will be a much better place for it.
Blogger blows today. In case people are having problems accessing new threads, go through the archives or here's the lastest thread here - about DeLay and Kos.
Sec Def: Luger, Hagel or Holbrooke
Sec State: Biden, Clark or Holbrooke
Sec Labor: Gephardt
Sec Interior: Gore
Sec Education: Somebody who was a teacher/administrator
Atty Gen: Spitzer (but he likely would pass in chance for NY Gov)
Shoe shine bitch: Condi Rice
I want to see a swimsuit calendar with Wes Clark, John Kerry, John Edwards, and the Big Dog, scar and all!
Funny, when Dean said these same things a year ago he was called--even by Democrats-- a "hothead" or "intemperate". It's hard to be ahead of your times...
Bubba ~
I honestly think that Al Gore will forever remain as an elder statesman in the Democratic Party. I just don't see him in the Cabinet or running for office again.
Of course, I've been wrong on many occasions. And I can admit it, unlike certain people in high places.
texaschilibean, how's Bush doing in the American liver? Gall bladder? Pancreas?
I'm sure he's doing great with the great American sphincter.
bunny | Email | Homepage | 10.27.04 - 5:07 pm | #
A very nice Chardonnay was just
expelled through my nose.
Hilarious....
I saw GWB say that and asked my GF how he could possibly say that with a straight face considering he went to war based on lies.
Clark is prohibited by law from being Secretary of Defense until he has been out of uniformed service for 10 years.
Yet Cheney (and others) can go in and out of government service and private industry--which benefits directly--with no limits whatsoever.
The Boy King's already bought his one-way ticket to Riyadh, where he will spend the rest of his miserable life selling his {unread} CIA briefings to the highest bidder*. Cheney will join his buddy Chalabi in Tehran.
*ex-presidents are entitled to get them for life.
Elliot Spitzer for Attorney General.
Hell yes. Let the prosecutions begin.
Nah. He wants Pataki's job.
Neat! While checking Montana newspapers to see what's up with the prosecution of the Republican-led Montana Power deregulation and subsequent Enron-like stockholder & pension theft....I caught this letter in the Butte Standard!
Even hard-core Red - Staters are bailing! Gotta love that wild-west horse analogy!
Writer supports Kerry
After reading Fred R. Brown's letter, as a long-time Democrat supporting Bush, I felt I should probably respond, as a "converted conservative," supporting John Kerry.
Fred uses the "changing horses in the middle of the river" arguement to say that times are just too dangerous to change leadership from Bush right now.
Nonsense. Fred's horse is drowning the USA in mismanagement at home and abroad and we must cut our losses with George Bush right now.
Just recently in the news, we see that there really were some weapons in Iraq, at a place called Al Qaqaa. There were 760,000 pounds of RDX and HMX high explosives at this well-known facility, all of which went missing while the Bush priorities were chasing non-existent WMD's and securing the oil pipeline. The Bush administration knew about these weapons, before the war, but did not find it a priority to secure these very real weapons.
Let's make this clear... the bomb that took down Pan Am Flight 103 over Scotland used less than one pound of these explosives.
Thanks to this latest mistake in Iraq, there are now 380 tons of these deadly explosives on the loose in Iraq and elsewhere. These explosives are being used now against our own soldiers in Iraq, and doubtless we'll see more evidence of them in the future, maybe even right here in the USA. I have to ask, "How could letting John Kerry lead, a man that at least saw combat, possibly be any more dangerous than the incompetence we've already seen from this
administration?"
As a fiscal conservative at heart, I see that George Bush has taken us from a huge surplus and a pay-as-you-go method of fiscal responsibility to record debt and deficit, both! and I see no sign that the spending is going to end. Maybe if we had a growing economy we could pull ourselves out of this spending river and survive the drowning horse in Iraq. The only Bush plan for the economy the last four years was a tax cut, which hasn't done a thing for the economy, and that's the Bush plan for the next 4 years. More oats to a dead horse it looks like to me.
Nope, I've seen enough, it's time for a couple new horses. These two have darn near lost us the ranch.
Ed Walter
Box 234
Twin Bridges
Elliot Spitzer for Attorney General.
...Or the head of the FCC. I want to see the fairness doctrine restored, and media ownership rules totally re-written.
found a good political comedy website here-- www.worldnoose.com gets chimpy good
my nomination for "drug czar".
nobody.
Elliot Spitzer for Attorney General
...or... what the hell... Supreme Court Justice.
Today,I heard Bush say that he was "a President for all Americans including Democrats." And he was "happy to have Zell Miller, a life long Democrat at his side." I would think even Republicans view Zell as a deranged Benedict Arnold. Who has any respect for this guy anymore?
Bush et al is getting desperate...the media is shifting rapidly toward support for Kerry. Now, if only someone from the CIA would leak the results of their 911 investigation that the WH has been sitting on since June.
Elliot Spitzer for Attorney General.
And give the man a copy of Starr's blank check to go after Republican war criminals - no matter where they try to hide.
stranger
Exactly. Spitzer has probably been the best AG for NY, like, ever.
Nice match for Mario Cuomo as CJ/SCOTUS.
olaf, once again you are the voice of reason.
"Sec Def: Luger, Hagel or Holbrooke"
Labor: Kucinich
HHS: Dean
How 'bout Clark for Homeland Security? the Big Dog for State?
As for Joe Lieberman, the Kerry Administration will certainly need someone to oversee the White House laundry operation. He could also help park cars.
and go somewhere where they will be appreciated.
Like North Korea.
Tena
prolly iWan or Saudi aWabia, it's more to their liking on the religious fundamentalism front
It's only for defense, because they think a civilian making decisions would keep the gung ho military types from getting carried away with expensive toys and fully trained troops with not much to do in peace times.
and besides, what moron would ever consider naming a retired general secretary of state?
As for Zell Miller, he could be in charge of determining if Anthrax letters delivered to governement officials are fakes...by sniffing them.
Maybe no cabinet position, but special prosecutor investigating the myriad Bush crimes.
Gore's not a lawyer. His degree from Vanderbilt Law is a BA.
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First time posting, long time visitor.
Maybe Bush is onto something with his
“…a political candidate who jumps to conclusions without knowing the facts is not a person you want as your Commander in Chief" bit...
" Right now, Iraq is expanding and improving facilities that were used for the production of biological weapons." - G.W. Bush, Sept 12, 2002
"We've also discovered through intelligence that Iraq has a growing fleet of manned and unmanned aerial vehicles that could be used to disperse chemical and biological weapons across broad areas. We're concerned that Iraq is exploring ways of using these UAVs for missions targeting the United States." - G.W. Bush, Oct 7, 2002
" We found the weapons of mass destruction. We found biological laboratories." - G.W. Bush, May 29, 2003
" Iraq has at least seven mobile factories for the production of biological agents - equipment mounted on trucks and rails to evade discovery." - G.W. Bush, Feb 6, 2003
"You can't distinguish between al-Qaeda and Saddam.” - G.W. Bush, Sept 26, 2002
"The regime of Saddam Hussein cultivated ties to terror while it built weapons of mass destruction.” - G.W. Bush, Sept 23. 2003
"The reason I keep insisting that there was a relationship between Iraq and Saddam and al Qaeda: because there was a relationship between Iraq and al Qaeda." - G.W. Bush, June 18, 2004
You heard the man. Don't vote for ppl who jump to conclusions!
Sec Def: Luger, Hagel or Holbrooke
has Sam Nunn said he's not interested?
Damn, Wes said that well.
I hope Kerry finds the right slot for him in his admin.
A man I feel proud to hve as a Democrat.
George W. Bush is unfit to be our Commander in Chief.
An article from TAP suggests that a potential President Kerry should appoint as his ambassador to Baghdad...
...one George W. Bush.
An article from TAP suggests that a potential President Kerry should appoint as his ambassador to Baghdad...
...one George W. Bush.
I would draft him as Chief Street Sweeper to Baghdad and give him a fucking broom.
Dream Cabinent
Some original - some stolen from up thread:
Wes Clark - ambassador to Iraq- hate to do that to him, but who else has the combination of smarts and cajones to fix that mess? (In my more vindictive moods, I thought of giving the job to Feith)
Gore- either interior or energy. In energy he could direct the transition from fossil fuels to H2
Big Dog - Amb to UN for now. Doubt he would be up to Sec state short term.
Gary Hart - homeland defense
Bob Graham - CIA
Atty Gen - Granholm
Surgeon Gen'l - Dean
Sec Defense - Bob Kerrey - former SEAL, medal of honor winner, knows what war is really about
Sec Vet Affairs - Cleland
HHS - Hilary
Why does Gen. Clark hate America?
Clinton cannot be the UN Sec Gen. The wingnutz started that rumor to fire up their Clinton-hating base.
General Clark can be Sec. of Def...the Senate committee would need to recommend a waiver. It has been done before in the cases of Marshall and Forestall. Approval for appointments is given only by the Senate not the House of Rep.
Holbrooke recently said he is more interested in the position of NSA. It must be nice to pick and chose. Huh?
The European leadership according to an open letter that appeared over the weekend, want Clark as SoS. They really trust him, but also site that the Arab/Moslem world also trust him because he was willing to go to the mat to save 1.5 million moslem lives.
I hope we all caution the Dems about putting any repubs in high ranking positions. Because Cohen was a republican--and a detriment to Clinton while he served as Sec. of Def., we had no one in a "former" position to speak out on behalf for our side. In fact, Cohen basically towed the bush lies when given the opportunity by Dobbs and Wolffie Bliltzer. No Hegel--no Lugar.
I'm not sure Clark is interested, and I spoke with him last Friday. Time will tell.
Wes Clark is the only person who busted their butt with no thought of "wanting" anything other than getting bush out. That's all.
Wes Clark is a truly great and amazing American. We are lucky.
What Donna Z sez.
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Ditto. Clark has got to be just about the best thing that has happened to the Democratic Party in a long, long time. (The other is Howard Dean,IMHO) I love Kerry, but I'd take a bullet for Clark. And I think he'd take one for Kerry.
Less than 2 months ago, the so-called experts at the DNC were counseling Kerry to stick to the bread-and-butter domestic issues, and to more or less concede the National Security stuff and Iraq to Bush. Thank God Clark (and others) stepped in and slapped the stupid out of them.
We said it was going to be about NS and Iraq, and we were right. How could it be otherwise?
I think Clark would be awesome at whatever he put his mind to--but he'd be wasted as Governor of Arkansas. (I believe that was proposed to him several years ago)
At the Campaign Office last week, I met a group of Scottish televsion crew doing a story on the election. They ALL knew Clark; said that everybody in Europe does (unlike Kerry and Edwards) and respects him tremendously. We need him where he can be of the best use to us--restoring our reputation in the world.
Wes said "no" to a run for governor in 2002. On the US side of the pond, few Americans have an appreciation for the scope of the position of SACEUR, one of the most powerful in the world and considered a "head of state."
There is a reason so many top generals end up at state or in the WH...they are leaders. In this case, the General is also brilliant.
While America was being feed a steady diet of Monica's blue dress, the Europeans was watching daily briefings by Wes. They know him much better than his fellow citizens.
I would like to see him at Defense. We need someone who knows everything about that place and will be able to repair the damage. We need someone who loves the troops and their families. We need someone who is a top strategist and knows what Pentagon bs sounds like.
Very selfish on my part to be sure. Clark spent his entire life working hours that would kill a lesser person. He did it all for an average pay of $50,000 a year.
Maybe we should let him go and enjoy his remaining years; but I am so very worried about this war and know that there is no Dem crony that could ever do the job they way it needs to be done. In fact there maybe very few people on the planet that can get us out of this mess. Maybe only one. He's the one.
"The administration "needs time to investigate" the missing explosives..
The Bush spinmeisters are acting like the administration just found about about the missing explosives from the NY Times. My God, if this is true it's worse than I thought.
"The administration "needs time to investigate" the missing explosives..
The Bush spinmeisters are acting like the administration just found about about the missing explosives from the NY Times. My God, if this is true it's worse than I thought.
To me the most revealing part of the Bush quote was the phrase "your Commander in Chief". The Constitution makes the President Commander in Chief of the armed forces. He is not "our" Commander in Chief.
I heard "W" say this last night on one of the news stations. General Clark put into words the exact thoughts I had after "W" spouted off. I'd like to see a Kerry add come out and take advantage of this.
I was about to open up a new blog on my site and write almost verbatim what Gen. Clark wrote. I would have loved to have seen him be the nominee, but as Secretary of State for 4 (8?) years, he'll be primed and ready to go to be the President after Kerry's term(s).
I've been a supporter of Clark since before he was running, and even donated money to the cause. As the Chinese saying goes, "With time and patience, the mulberry leaf becomes a silk gown." Translated to less flowery typical English, "Good things come to he who waits."
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