I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Okay, I have to leave, but one more time:
I'm with Jake. Why isn't anyone talking about Bush's flip flop on civil unions?
This really is a great blog on this topic:Bush Supports Civil Unions?
So is this sea change by Bush an act of despiration or is he just as the blogger suggests, off the reservation?
Doesn't anyone care about this?
dont forget LOTR
return of the king w 50 more minutes!
dont forget LOTR
return of the king w 50 more minutes!
Hey, I've got good music on my record label too, since we're doing crass commercialism.
Haunted House is ripping up the college airwaves too.
New CD of Ben Harper & The Blind Boys Of Alabama. Very good.
Anyone mention that an Eschaton screenshot was featured on MSNBC this am? It was a piece with Joe Trippi talking about bloggers and campaign ads. A screenshot of Daily Kos as well.
she didn't steal it, she *borrowed* it.
she didn't steal it, she *borrowed* it.
Brian and the boys will be here in Vegas (club setting) next month. Can't wait...Good Vibrations and the entire rest of the story will sound much better with Kerry going in.
Costello has become classic, which is always a good thing.
REM catalog needs updating in my collection. Haven't stopped listening to them yet and don't ever see stopping.
I hope LOTR gets kids to read Tolkien. I miss sitting in the back of pre-algebra in 8th grade, sneaking the paperbacks and getting totally lost. No wonder I majored in English Lit. C. S. Lewis too...
Buffy..."Fire bad...tree pretty." sums it all up nicely.
Did I mention free mp3s?
Like beautiful music? Smattering is for you!
I can't believe I've never exploited this before.
Smile is good, though REM may never be good again. Meanwhile: Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat, 75, has lost consciousness, Israeli public radio reported, quoting Palestinian sources. He lost consciousness "several hours ago", it said.
Death watch is on. But what does it MEAN?
Let us not forget Arrested Development Season 1 DVD!!!! Yay!!!
Smile - good only after large doses of Lucy in the Sky...
North Mississippi Allstars - awesome
Doc Watson - fantastic mountain music
Warren Haynes - AVL hometown jam band master saves Allman Brothers and the Dead, both in the same year
Class dismissed 
Just read Plaid Adder's Wolves at DU
sNIP-
So essentially the Bush team has moved from arguing that they went to war in order to prevent exactly what the war actually caused, to trying to convince us that Bush needs to stay in the White House so that all the things that normally happen while he's in the White House don't happen any more
-eNDsNIP
As they say up here inn Sox country; Ain't that a Pissah...
Whoops, that's free mp3s!
There we go.
SMILE SUCKS!
Fuck Brian Wilson.
OK now that's of myy chest.
SHAMELESS PLUG FOR FRIENDS BAND:
http://www.emphasis.org/coiler/music.htm
Download Rogue Nation and feel free to distribute at will.
Band's name is Coiler.
Atrios,
Are you dropping hints for presents this holiday season?
Smile is Great!! Getting In over my head was such a dissapointment; I was terrified of listening to Smile. But, wow. Pet Sounds finally has a companion in the upper eschalons of Brian Wilson's musical career.
That list is pretty good, cept for Buffy. Not a fan of Buffy. The only shows I watch on t.v. are South Park and The Shield. Everything else sucks.
If anyone cares, my birthday is November 8 and I would like the first season of Angel on dvd.
Atrios Xmas list.
Has he been naughty or nice?
Discuss.
Ok, even though you said Brian Wilson sucked, I still checked out your friends band. Horrible. But then again I understand how Pet Sounds influenced generations of young musicians.
Cam, Shrubs flip-flop on civil unions has been duly noted, but that's SO 4 news cycles or so ago. Besides, the 380 missing tons thing, erm, buried that particular news story.
People, it's SMiLE. Small i meaning no ego, no I. I'm going to hear it live next Wednesday at the Disney Hall here in Los Angeles. Should be amazing, though a) my friends inability to come up with the face-melting bud that he usually does and b) it's the day after the election so I'll still be nursing a nasty hangover from the Kerry victory celebrations.
I'm also open to cash gifts.
Gift card?
IHOP gift certificate?
how about something wicker?
At this point, sure!
Oh, and Peter Jackson, love ya, mean it, but by not filming the Scouring of the Shire scenes, you, alas, shall burn forever more in Hell.
And Dominic Monaghan (Merry in LOTR) is just yummy on the great new series Lost. I love how he has LATE on bandages on his knuckles, a riff on "Love and hate tatooed across the knuckles of his hand" from The Clash/Robert Mitchum in the great Night of the Hunter.
I had Buffy season 7 on DVD last April.
Because of US syndication some of my favorite shows aren't released in the US when they are overseas. So I have a zone-free DVD player and order from http://www.amazon.co.uk.
The time it took to release in the US used to be longer but I suspect lots of people were buying DVDs overseas on the internet.
Just saw part of Tweety grilling Don Evans, who was in Summit Co., Ohio, asking him what happened to the promise that Iraq would be paying for its own reconstruction from oil revenues, and what would happen if the U.S. govt. spent $87 billion to revive Ohio's economy. Of course, Evans had no answer and spoke about "freedom" in Iraq or some such bullshit. Tweety did a nice job on that interview.
I hope we see The Power of Nightmares: The Rise of the Politics of Fear by Adam Curtis available on DVD this Christmas. It might not be entertainment, but it makes you realize just how alike the Neo-cons and Islamic Fundamentalist are and how similar they both are to the Maoists and Khmer Rouge.
The Islamic Fundamentalists believe that democracy is against the Koran and as the Koran is the word of God, then democrats of all political persuasions are apostates and so it is perfectly legal to kill them. Will the same become true of American Neo-cons if Bush loses the election? How will the wingnuts treat Kerry when he wins? Will it be the same crap that Clinton had to put up with?
Fortunately, the different Islamic Fundamentalist groups start to believe that only their group truely follows the Koran so all other groups are apostates and so they wipe each other out. Hopefully, the wingnuts will go down the same path.
>Tweety did a nice job on that interview.<
I won't be happy until I see Tweety's head poking out of Hitler's ass in Hell.
Well, the Stranger CD will be along pretty soon now...
Of course, it'll become a 'historical document' when Kerry wins. If Bush steals it, I'll have to do a Volume 2...
A sample.
Chimpy has been giving it to us. Now let's give it to him.
Bush's One-Fingered Farewell Salute
John Peel, one if not the most influencial radio dj in the UK died this week
a great loss, at 65 he still championed little bands that never get played anywhere
Sniff sniff, rest in peace Peelie!
I won't be happy until I see Tweety's head poking out of Hitler's ass in Hell.
Ahhhh, I coulda been a contenda...
for best snarky line of the day.
Damn you.
My half-birthday was 26th September and all I wanted was the first season of DaVinci's Inquest. Nobody took me seriously tho.
Just as an artifact, "Smile" is amazing. The fact that it's actually good is basically a miracle. If you're a recording geek like me, and have heard bootlegs of the original sessions, you know that that Wilson's ability to get pretty much the same sound 30-odd years later, and put it all ito a coherent whole, is virtually unprecedented.
I'm not even that big a fan, either. I just listened to it out of curiosity, assuming it'd be a interesting dud, and was amazed by what a huge achievement it turned out to be.
Mr. Chimp, don't embarrass your base.
Give up your insurmountable race.
Will you at last admit,
You're not worth a shit.
Please disappear, you fucking disgrace.
Did the three-movie home screening a couple of months ago, but it was with the truncated (theatrical) ROTK. After 12/14 we'll be able to do it right, with all three extended editions.
Go get this version of Marquee Moon by Television... they added the "Little Johnny Jewel" single to this release.
The new Camper Van Beethoven is very, very good.
With Arafat gone, who will we blame for our inability to negotiate a lasting peace in the region?
I saw Elvis Costello in 1978 at the Glenn Miller ballroom on the University of Colorado campus. Not more than a few hundred people. He belted out every song on his first album, most under 3 minutes long, and played a few I'd never heard of. I remember "Welcome to the Working Week" delivered with a snide grin and "The Angels Want to Wear My Red Shoes" as serious as sin.
I haven't heard any of the records mentioned. For one, I'm broke and, for two, my current obsessions runs more into older stuff (particularly R&B and soul). However, I've heard good things about the new R.E.M. disc - and trust me, in Athens, that's saying a lot - and some friends of mine gave SmIle extremely high marks, and they're tough reviewers.
I've heard bootlegs of the original Smile sessions, including one that has Brian Wilson completely losing his shit between takes. Very unsettling.
Oh, and Peter Jackson, love ya, mean it, but by not filming the Scouring of the Shire scenes, you, alas, shall burn forever more in Hell.
I thought that it was supposed to be in the Extended version?
But then again I understand how Pet Sounds influenced generations of young musicians.
jps
Again, I don't worship the guy or anything...but anyone who can't at least appreciate the recording techniques/arrangements on that album really has no business doing music. Especially when you realize he's deaf in one ear!
And I'd say "God Only Knows," at least, is comparable to Kurt Weill in its musical sophistication. I have the instrumental track on the box set version...it's deceptively simple and really beautiful. (And I'm a fellow whose own bands have tended to be noisy as hell and to play at about 150 decibels, so this is NOT an aging hippie talking!)
Phila -- you're dead right on smile.
It is something of a miracle.
BTW, anybody who likes it should
immediately get Brian Wilson Live
at the Roxy, a live album from three
years ago, I think. I am not exagerrating
when I say it's as amazing a distillation
of pure joy as has ever been committed
in the digital domain.
Ok, even though you said Brian Wilson sucked, I still checked out your friends band. Horrible. But then again I understand how Pet Sounds influenced generations of young musicians.
Hey, go ahead and attack me cuz I say SMILE sucks and so does Brian Wilson.
Pet Sounds is not that good of an album.
Fuck the Beach Boys, NONE OF THEM SURFED.
But why are you attacking my friends band?
And what was HORRIBLE?
What song did you download?
I'm curious because the have loads of fans and fill the house with their regular weekly gig.
So, what is your constructive criticism jps?
BTW, the 60's are OVER, they have been OVER for a while.
Duty now for the future.
Gotta say, I miss angry young man Elvis.
the guy wrote the angriest anti-Thatcher song ever, and now he's doing some split personality Cole Porter/Englishman-goes-to-Mississippi Delta thing.
exatly how old is an aging hippie?
Fuck the Beach Boys, NONE OF THEM SURFED.
Weirdest criticism ever.
BTW, the 60's are OVER, they have been OVER for a while.
So are the '70s, '80s, and '90s. Unless your friend's band invented a new musical form or genre, they are living in the past, man.
NONE OF THEM SURFED.
Shows what you know. Dennis most certainly did surf.
MisterX --
BTW, have you heard the Television
live album on Rhino Handmade?
One of the great guitar records ever...
What about U2's new IPod? I love their music but it's Crass Commercialism if I've ever seen it!
Already ordered the ROTK EE.
Amazon offered me a free preview and I bit like Bill O'Reilly into a loofa filled pita.
Camper Van Beethoven
Now new Cracker though, huh?
I've been saying for a couple years now that once the extended Return of the King came out on DVD, I'd finally be able to kill myself, since that was about all that was worth hanging on for. Of course, should Kerry win, I may have to revise that plan.
Oh, well, and I guess I should live until King Kong hits the screens. Unless the new Star Wars pushes me over the edge before then...
Pet Sounds most certainly does not suck. Your name is very appropriate surfDORK.
Fuck you, the Beach Boys are Americana, they are legend.
I personally prefer harder music, more Rock and Roll, but the Beach Boys were an important band.
you suck.
Shit, the '60s are over? Does that mean I gotta quit listening to Otis Redding and Aretha Franklin? Do I have to stop listening to all the rock & roll, blues, country,jazz and R&B from decades previous to that?
Christ, what am I gonna do with all them CD's. I'd need a truck to take 'em all to the dump.
Music is eternal. Deal.
Watching Buffy 7 makes me feel guilty. Something about a house full of fifteen-year-old girls, I guess...
New Tears for Fears album, better than all three albums combined!!!!
New Tears for Fears album, better than all three albums combined!!!!
BTW, have you heard the Television
live album on Rhino Handmade?
One of the great guitar records ever...
steve simels
What? No. Is it good? Of course it is, I'm sure. Is it from back in the '70s or from their more recent tour/gig thing? I'm getting old and don't get out much anymore...
Bliekker,
Cracker put out an album last year. I forget the title off the top of my head, but it was okay...nothing to write home about, but okay. From what I've heard from David Lowery's camp - I know the woman he runs Pitch-A-Tent Records with - he's gonna alternate between Camper records and Cracker records, basically when the mood suits him.
I'm partial to Eminem's new video "Mosh". Check it out if you haven't heard the buzz.
http://mosh.eminem.com/video/
If you like it, vote at MTV.com to get it played.
new r.e.m. is too long, and a few songs could be cut, but there's some GREAT stuff on there: best tracks are: the outsiders, aftermath, The ascent of man, and wander lust.
There's also a new Hem CD out.
Hey I don't mind being corrected so PROVE IT.
What I know is when the Beach Boys were writing all of those surf songs in the 60's none of them surfed.
This is common knowledge among surfers.
Please correct my but have SOME proof.
Not a weird criticsm. Write a bunch of songs about surfing and the surf scene but never have surfed.
I call bullshit on that.
I'll repeat, THE 60's are OVER.
Wanna be a farking hippie in John Q Public's eyes? Keep on reliving the 60's, no better way to turn off people.
Unless your friend's band invented a new musical form or genre, they are living in the past, man.
Hardly, that is a fallacious arguement.
The logic extended is that all of humanity is living in the past.
Absurd.
check out this version of "Democracy"
a Leonard Cohen song
free download
www.burnssisters.com
Mike Malloy played last night on air america...
New Get Your War On... And it's Shrillerific
R.E.M. is FANTASTIC. Watch Going Upriver, "Around the Sun" is the song at the end. It is kind of a slideshow of pictures of Kerry. Oh so good. R.E.M. is my recommended Dem/Kerry loving band.
Music is eternal. Deal.
Backslider | Email | Homepage | 10.27.04 - 7:55 pm | #
True enough, but all of us at some
point have an unpleasant epiphany --
that the music that means the most
to us, the touches us deeply in our soul,
eventually begins to strike those
younger than us as a little, er, quaint.
America's Nemesis is evil.
Ok, nobody smoke whatever the hell surfdork is smoking.
surfdork,
Ya know, you might have a point there. How dare musicians write about something they may only be observers of. Bruce Springsteen never worked in a factory, and Chuck Berry certainly didn't experience the "school days" he sang about. Why, I bet Johnny Cash never shot a man in Reno just to watch him die.
What a bunch of fakes.
Best thing I can say about new REM is that it does get better after a few listens. Damning with faint praise, I know. I'm a long-time fan, but the album just falls short. Not a bad album by any means, but stubbornly not great.
Now, New William Shatner? That's unexpectedly amazing.
And as long as I'm plugging, new my employer is pretty darn good, too. And you can't go wrong with an album called "Peace".
older snow patrol, death cab, postal service, lotion, new shatner album. all gold, all the time.
Oooh, BTVS Season 7 = hideous, horrible debacle of a season.
Surprisingly, Angel Season, um, last: Good. Not out on DVD yet, but considering that I wasn't a fan of the show, I have now watched the repeats on TNT and dug that last season.
Arrested Development! Yay! Funny shit.
Also, I saw Wanda Sykes' new show last night on Comedy Central. Also funny and worth checking out.
Comedy Central is my favorite channel now.
Mister X, re Television:
No, it's from the Adventure tour
in '78 -- their absolute live peak.
You can only get it from the Rhino
website -- they do limited edition
stuff, so I don't know if there's
any left. If there are, however,
act now.
Oh, it was recorded at small club
show, and it was originally available
as a promo LP for radio.
Pet Sounds most certainly does not suck. Your name is very appropriate surfDORK.
Think you are insulting me with my chosen handle?
Idiot.
Funny to watch so called liberals resort to wingnut tactics when offended.
I'm not alone in this opinion go to Amazon and read the reviews.
Shit, the '60s are over? Does that mean I gotta quit listening to Otis Redding and Aretha Franklin? Do I have to stop listening to all the rock & roll, blues, country,jazz and R&B from decades previous to that?
No fucking shit. Wow, I must have thrown out all of my original Beatles albums.
Oh yeah , I never listen to anything from the 60's.
Moron.
If you can't look in the mirror and see all of this SMILE hype is from people trying to relive the 60's then you are blind.
In the spirit of free speech, check out the new 6-CD Lenny Bruce box set, LET THE BUYER BEWARE (on Shout Factory).
[listening to Air America]
Job Loserman was an albatross because of massive anti-Semitism in America? In America? That's the only reason? It wasn't Loserman refusing to campaign, being an extreme right-winger in the first place, enthusiastically fellating his opponent at the mutual press conference, refusing to have anything to do with the recount? It was only because he's Jewish and all of us worthless scumbag goyim who deserve to die are honestly seeking another Holocaust? That's it? What is this bitch smoking?
Backslider
And I have been informed by knowledgeable sources that neither Eric Clapton nor Bob Marley ever shot a sheriff.
surfdork,
Yeah, maybe I should've been a little more eloquent. I listend to "dmpod," which wasn't good, but if you tell me they're trying to be like Spinal Tap I'll take back everything I said. Although the next song (which I don't remember what I clicked) didn't really allude to a humorous slant. And naming things "Sweet Asian Teen" isn't funny, but I guess that's objective. Oh, and nylon string acoustics...eh.
Death Metal Phantom Of Death is cool, reminds me of this Minneapolis band "Black Stool." And I just listened to Bring Home the Money, that I did like. Should've listened to more before snapping to judgement, but its confusing to get what vibe they're going for. Maybe I'll check out their main site.
Surfdork, you're being, like, a bummer, man.
Gotta go, Backslider I leave the smackdown of the little asswipe to you and yours. And anyone who threw out original Beatles albums is just too stupid to breathe.
Good Night.
Go Kerry.
What about John Tesh?
This is OT but I was wandering through friends of friends at livejournal and found this!!:
a word to the wise
For all my LJ-loving friends, this is a word of warning, a word to the wise, and a word of utter exhaustion after the wringer I've been put through in the last twenty-four hours.
A couple of weeks ago, following the last presidential debate, I said some rather inflammatory things about George W. Bush in a public post in my LJ, done in a satirical style. We laughed, we ranted, we all said some things. I thought it was a fairly harmless (and rather obvious) attempt at humor in the face of annoyance, and while a couple of people were offended, as is typical behavior from me, I saw something shiny and forgot about it, thinking that the whole thing was over and done and nothing else would come of what I said.
I was wrong.
At 9:45 last night, the Secret Service showed up on my mother's front door to talk to me about what I said about the President, as what I said could apparently be misconstrued as a threat to his life.
End LJ quote.
Un-freaking-believable and apparently she now has a permanent FBI file and my end up on a 'no fly' list according to her attorney, even though they've Xed her off a list of serious threats...what the fuck happened to my country?
It's one thing to sing about something observed.
It's another thing to have an ARTIFICAL IMAGE.
Understand the difference?
Beach Boys to Surfing is like Ashlee Simpson is to punk.
But go ahead and live in YOUR fantasy world.
I'm the ONLY person with this OPINION.
/sarcasm
If you can't look in the mirror and see all of this SMILE hype is from people trying to relive the 60's then you are blind.
surfdork
You don't have to be from that era to enjoy the music.
sorry about the weird italics etc.
Surfdork, I'm guessing, based on your totally over-the-top inability to deal with criticism, that your "friend's" band is actually YOUR band.
True enough, but all of us at some
point have an unpleasant epiphany --
that the music that means the most
to us, the touches us deeply in our soul,
eventually begins to strike those
younger than us as a little, er, quaint.eventually begins to strike those
younger than us as a little, er, quaint.
Like when my daughter, who heard lots and lots of good rock and roll growing up queried me:
"Dad, dont't you wish you would have had rap when you were growing up?"
I was speechless.....
Dude, you so don't want to bother with Buffy season 7. Even I think it sucks.
-Joss Whedon
If you can't look in the mirror and see all of this SMILE hype is from people trying to relive the 60's then you are blind.
surfdork
Dude, what is your problem with this. I imagine at some point you might be trying to relive the '90's or the 00's, god forbid, the good memories of
youth that is.
Did Brian Wilson piss in your cheerios
this morning?
Kerry/Edwards In A LANDSLIDE!!
"Yes, Bush Can" now says "no, Bush can't!"
Yes, Bush Can, an independent group dedicated to communicating Bush policies directly to the public, has abandoned its campaign and is officially endorsing John Kerry for President.
Before changing sides, the Yes, Bush Can team drove around the country supporting the President in a campaign bus they had equipped with sound and light systems, confetti cannons, and various props and costumes. They gave dozens of stump speeches, distributed campaign videos and "USA Patriot Pledges," and performed patriotic songs to audiences across the country.
Last week, the group officially split with Bush. "In the course of our travels, we ended up learning more about Bush's policies than he wanted us to know," said Harmon Spellmeyer, one of the Yes, Bush Can team. "We came to see that this administration is a catastrophe for most people."
Before breaking with Bush, the Yes, Bush Can team worked earnestly to support him. They went to the Pacific Northwest to promote Bush's Healthy Forests Initiative--and discovered it was enabling the logging industry to cut down our last old-growth forests. They visited a nuclear power plant in Ohio to promote Bush's domestic security policies--and found no one in the guard booth to meet them.
In western Pennsylvania, while promoting the President's energy policy, they learned that it allows coal emissions which kill 23,000 people a year. Finally, while defending Bush's war on terrorism, they found out that even Donald Rumsfeld feels the Iraq War has made the world a more dangerous place.
Oh yeah, the 60's are most certainly not dead, if anything is dead in the musical sense its been the last ten years.
You can check out Joe S. Harrington's Sonic Cool: The Life and Death of Rock'n'Roll if you want to know why.
Backslider, you'd probably love that book.
KRSAZ
I leave the smackdown of the little asswipe
Wow spoken like a freeper.
Little Asswipe?
I live in Seattle, PLEASE COME SAY THIS TO ME IN PERSON.
You have the link to my blog, feel free to comment and we'll meet up OK?
Wow I think SMILE sucks and I get all of this VENOM.
Folks look at yourselves, you're left wing freepers.
Ever wonder why our side gets the "elite" comment and wonder why it sticks?
JPS,
Thanks for your response.
Surfdork, go away until you can learn to discuss and behave like a grownup. You're embarrassing yourself.
Nope not my band.
Brian Wilson sucks.
Now back to campaigning, freepers.
You know, surfdork is obviously a...
ahem....er....okay, an idiot. But
it's actually rather touching that
he's still young enough to be
passionately involved with the music
of the moment. I mean, to get really
angry with people who by his lights
just don't get it. C'mon folks --
If you can't be incredibly self-
righteous when you're young, when can
you?
The whole SMiLE story is a miraculous tale of resurrection and redemption... and a very good album. Which, considering the expectations for it, is nothing short of amazing. It seals Wilson's place in posterity as one of Americas most important composers. Ever. I'm seeing him in SF on the 4th. I'm expecting to be in a celebratory mood.
Camper van Beethoven's "New Roman Times" is not only good music, but their politics is in the correct place, too. Considering that they haven't been in the studio recording new material in something like 14 years, their new work is pretty much a continuation of what they've always done so well.
I've been listening to TMBG's "The Spine" a lot. Very catchy stuff. Their normal twisted humor is present, and as my sweetie said... they've forgotten more riffs than most bands ever know.
Finally, Ray Charles last album "Genius Loves Company", while not his best work, shows that he had soul (and genius) to the very end. He does duets with many notables, like Van Morrison, Bonnie Raitt, Willie Nelson and Diana Krall, to name a few. I'm looking forward to his bio flick. I think.
No man, surfdork is entitled to his opinion, though I'm not sure what surfing has to do with the beach boys. Just like I don't know what selling a crack rock on Chicago Ave. has anything to do gangster rap.
Wow I think SMILE sucks and I get all of this VENOM.
That's not what you said. You spewed the venom.
Be a person. Nobody here wants to converse with the Anne Coulter of music criticism.
So are the '70s, '80s, and '90s. Unless your friend's band invented a new musical form or genre, they are living in the past, man.
Alex
So are the 1600s, but Purcell still sounds pretty good to me.
Jesus H. Christ, I've heard every kind of music there is, and I've played most of it, from ragtime to jazz to death metal to noise to experimental stuff so far out there that they haven't even invented a name for it yet...I like new stuff, I like old stuff, I like almost everything in between, and I'm sure I'll like tons of stuff in the future.
I've known noise fans who hated punk, and punk fans who hated rock, and rock fans who hated classical, and classical fans who hated jazz, and jazz fans who hated noise...and God knows what all. Buncha constipated assholes, IMO. If it's music, I'll listen to it. If it sounds good to me, I'll like it. And I don't believe in ridiculing anyone else's musical taste. It's like gay-bashing; straight people don't do it unless they're insecure and overcompensating.
Folks like Surfdork just wanna give their pallid little lives a bit of unearned extra meaning by pretending that an accident of birth gives 'em some kind of aesthetic edge. Trashing people for liking the Beach Boys? Wow, what a tough guy you are! Don't care whose toes you step on, huh?
Ah, y'all are proving my point.
I can make an asinie criticism and do I get a kind response?
NOPE!
Folks you just failed a simple psych 101 experiment.
Well, since we're on the topic of crass commercialism, how about a little shameless self-promotion of my own stuff?
looks like keith olbermann is going to do a bit on eminem and howard stern.
Speaking of horrible, did anyone just hear that national anthem? Who the hell was that hack?
Well, I was never a beach boys fan and didn't think Pet Sounds came anywhere close to the hype. But, Smile surprisingly does...
surfdork,
Number one, people aren't responding to you with "wingnut tactics". You came in raging like a dick about a fucking CD, and people are responding in kind. You coulda said something along the lines of "Ya know, I've always thought the Beach Boys were overrated, Pet Sounds included." If people were shitty at you for that, then I'd see you're point. As it is, you're being a dick, plain and simple.
Secondly, I'll be the first one to agree that the vast majority of this nostalgia for the '60s is from Baby Boomers trying to keep their rapidly fading youth. Hell, that's why a totally unneccessary Beatles number-one compilation was released a few years ago. However, it's quite possible all the praise for SmIle is because it's simply a good record. The two friends I mentioned weren't even dirty gleams in their respective dads' eyes back in the '60s, so it's not nostalgia for them. I haven't heard it, personally; have you?
And finally, when it comes to a manufactured image, I personally think you're making a bit of a stretch. Sure, Dennis Wilson was the only Beach Boy who surfed, but the Wilson boys did grow up in Southern California and did live out that particular situation, so Brian Wilson wrote what he saw. And, of course, one has to remember that he wrote other songs besides surfing tunes and it's not (neccessarily) his fault. And is it is, there's plenty of "surf rock" bands that have members who didn't surf.
Gotta remember one little fact about musicians: they're musicians. They're not steelworkers or cowboys or workin' men. Sure, some like Merle Haggard wrote a lot about what they experienced - in terms of his prison songs - but the great majority wrote what they saw. Probably the two most influential songwriters in rock history, Hank Williams and Chuck Berry, never held down any regular gigs apart from music.
And finally...ya don't like the Beach Boys? Fine. Don't listen to the motherfuckers. Personally, I've never been much of a fan myself, and though I dig and appreciate the intracacies of Pet Sounds, I think the indie hipster kids have overinflated it's "greatness". Same thing with Big Star or The White Album, for what it's worth.
There's a lot of music out there to listen to. Just cause you don't like something doesn't mean everyone else has to share your opinion. Move on down the line and find what you do dig. Take it from one who knows - former music critic - life and music are both much more enjoyable that way.
REM's "Around the Sun" is quite good. Very political. The unofficial band of the Democrats/Kerry campaign. I saw them twice this past weekend: Nashville and Atlanta. I see them once more in DC on the day before the election. You're in store for a pro-Kerry/anti-Bush sermon. Awesome.
As for other music suggestions, check out Bjork's new one, "Medulla". Incredible. Most unique album of the year. A great listen. Of course, anything of her's is good.
it's actually rather touching that
he's still young enough to be
passionately involved with the music
of the moment.
He might not be so young. My brother, who is in his forties, sounds just like that.
Angry. Really angry and unable to deal with people not agreeing with him. Not angry at criticism; angry at DISAGREEMENT.
Grow up, dude. Spank your inner moppet.
Until then, stay away from the rest of us.
Buffy Season 7 was a definate improvement over the offfensive crap that was S6 (Crackhead Willow, anyone?) but YMMV. The first third of S7 was pretty good and Selfless and Conversations with Dead People rank up with the best of the series. Again, just my opinion.
.
Billy B,
Don't know how old you are but I'd bust out some classic Linton Kwesi Johnson or any of the other great dub reggae poets and show her where rap came from (at least partially).
Surfdork,
So anyone who likes Beethoven is trying to "relive" centuries past? Or if the listen to Asian classical they are trying to relive the Ming dynasty? I just don't get your argument.
BTW, I don't like the SMiLE disc either.
Now new Cracker though, huh?
CVB's New Roman Times is Crackeresque in places (I love Cracker, too) but still true to the original CVB sound most of the time. David Lowery is great.
Now, New William Shatner? That's unexpectedly amazing.
I agree, particularly the Lemon Jelly collaboration.
OT: For the first time ever I heard Sean Hannity's radio show today as i stood in line at the paint store. He was an open sewer of lies about the missing explosives. I have listened to Rush, watched Fox, but never, never experienced anything like this before. Incredible.
Oh, and I'm not a Beach Boys fan, either. But I won't go running into a room screaming THEY SUCK THEY SUCK THEY SUCK.
And if I do, I sure as hell won't be surprised when people react like I'm being an asshole.
As Greil Marcus said, the best rock
is about respect for tradition and
a hunger for novelty.
Of course, as somebody else (unknown)
said, rock music is mostly about
moving big black boxes from one side
of town to the other in the back of
your car.
I can make an asinie criticism and do I get a kind response?
Who fucking cares? And who here owes you anything?
You've been prancing around like a pea-brained asshole for days now, spouting the stupidest, most self-centered shit in the world, insulting Tena and God knows who else...and now you're gonna have a hissy fit because people here are irritated with your disruptive attention-begging? Sheesh...get a grip!
Shorter Surfdork = "Me me me me me look at me me me me me!"
Well, Spork, I guess then you and I have to kill each other, 'cuz we disagree.
SPORK SUCKS SPORK SUCKS AND HE'S BLIND AND CAN'T EVEN SEE HOW STUPID HE IS FOR HAVING AN OPINION DIFFERENT FROM MINE SO HE'S A WINGNUT ASSHOLE ELITIST PIG.
signed,
Surfdork?
Little Asswipe?
I live in Seattle, PLEASE COME SAY THIS TO ME IN PERSON.
Are you, uh, Eddie Vedder? Geez-O-Peetz, brother man, lighten up.
Brian Wilson may not be your cup of tea, but he is responsible for some of the most moving tunes that were ever written in the pop/rock world.
It would behoove you to obtain, in the very least, one of the Beach Boys greatest hits compilations and listen.
Maybe its time for a baseball thread, no?
What Backslider said about music.
Now personally, I think Brian Wilson is way over-rated, but hey, he's gotta make a living somehow.
Oh, it was recorded at small club
show, and it was originally available
as a promo LP for radio.
steve simels
Thanks a HELLUVA LOT! I just googled it, and naturally IT'S FRIGGIN' SOLD OUT.
*fumes in deathly silence for a moment*
Well, now I guess I have something to search for... a quest as it were.
*grits teeth* Thanks for the heads-up. 
I sold my Mission of Burma cds today.
I think that means something, but
I'm not sure what.
I dig and appreciate the intracacies of Pet Sounds, I think the indie hipster kids have overinflated it's "greatness".
Hey, I resemble that comment!
Not exactly OT: Over the weekend, a couple folks hereabouts were talking about a movie about to be released/just realsed on DVD about Nixon. A one-man show; Nixon with a bottle of bourbon and a heart full of complaints.
Can someone tell me the name of that movie?
I'm gonna watch "Those Who Love Me Can Take the Train" tonight, and I'm feeling like seeing a movie that's overtly about politics might be good next.
Anyone?
Posted by Eric:
R.E.M. is FANTASTIC. Watch Going Upriver, "Around the Sun" is the song at the end. It is kind of a slideshow of pictures of Kerry. Oh so good. R.E.M. is my recommended Dem/Kerry loving band.
Eric,
Saw R.E.M. live last week, and they ROCKED. The late-80s stuff they played--"Finest Worksong," "Welcome to the Occupation," etc.--seemed all too relevant. They were just so damned passionate! They opened w/"Around the Sun," which is the best song on the new album IMO. Stipe came out for the encore in a Kerry t-shirt and made witty, pointed remarks about the election all night long--also asked everybody if they were registered to vote, and nearly everybody raised their hand. He saw somebody w/a "Stipe for President" sign and said, "I'm not smart enough to be president... but I AM smart enough to KNOW that I'm not smart enough to be president."
Remember Gore and his "Clinton-Gore will be automatic for the people on Nov. 8" back in '92?
THIS JUST IN: (POST-) COMMUNIST MENACE RESPONSIBLE FOR DISAPPEARING IRAQI EXPLOSIVES
Ummm... Boy the PfaNAC guys are REALLY dipping into some old playbooks w/ this one. If all else fails, blame the Russians.
Wow, I timed it perfectly, ran screaming from the tv when that banshie started up with the anthem, waited a bit, went back saw the first pitch and then
HOLY SHIT its a home Run
Kerry/Edwards In A LANDSLIDE!!
BTW, don't overlook the new Elliott Smith, FROM A BASEMENT ON THE HILL. It's effin great.
why did bill clinton appoint mike powell to the fcc?
Anyone?
monica_nyc
The original Manchrian Candidate.
Or, barring that, Spencer Tracy in State of the Union.
Mister X:
You know what? I'll burn you a copy.
E-mail me your address.
I was disapponted by pretty much everything in Smile other than the first five or six minutes, although not as much so as by Wilson's Pet Sounds concert disk.
Even the Smile version of Good Vibrations was revisionist and somewhat lacking in inspiration.
OT: My mother-in-law received a campaign mailing today from the Alabama Republican Party stamped with a non-profit mailing permit. Is this legit?
My wife swears that it wouldn't have been in any campaign mailing she's ever done, something about 501(c)3 or something like that (neither of us are lawyers). I told her we'll just turn it over to the legal minds and let them figure it out.
Lisa-
You're being a self-centered asshole 
.
MisterX,
Both fine recommendations. Isn't Lansbury in both and she kinda plays the same role in each? or am i thinking about another flick.
Kerry/Edwards In A LANDSLIDE!!
The original Manchrian Candidate.
Saw that again a couple weeks ago. Chilling.
Or, barring that, Spencer Tracy in State of the Union.
O! Good one. Thanks, Mister X.
Billy B:
Oh my. I think Eddie Vedder's a bit too cool for that kind of crap.
I hope.
But maybe surfdork is Courtney Love...?
With Arafat gone, who will we blame for our inability to negotiate a lasting peace in the region?
Arabs, ay-rabs, non-Jewish Semites, anyone who replaces him, King Asaad, anti-Semitic communist Jew intellectuals poisoning the WILL of our homeland from within, and Arabic-speaking peoples.
Also, is Atrios on AA tonight?
why did bill clinton appoint mike powell to the fcc?
Who could have imagine Colin Powell selling his soul to a weasel like Bush? I guess his evil little spawn didn't fall far from the colon.
badmammajamma
There's no malice intended with my daughter and the rap music thing.
I was just referring to the fact that I'm old enough to have morphed into what I promised I'd not do - make fun of my kid's music...
classic Linton Kwesi Johnson
I'm pretty sure the Nixon movie you're
talking about is directed by Robert
Altman -- I think its called Secret
Honor....
Spork:
I'm just trying to imitate one on TV.
Actually, I have all the Buffy seasons on DVD. I told my friends I wouldnt buy Season 6, but they convinced me I had to get the season with the musical episode. And so I did.
But I will not buy Season 7. I swear. I swear. I swear.
Gonna spend my bucks on the Arrested Development DVD, most likely. Gotta move on, gotta move on.
Oh, and I don't live in Seattle. So don't come here looking to beat me up.
why did bill clinton appoint mike powell to the fcc?
Because the Clenis was in favor of media deregulation, pretty much across the board, and so is Michael Powell. Plus, the Clenis probably thought M. Powell was qualified for the job. Not to say that Howard Stern agrees.
OT: Florida absentee ballots missing.
kent -- Yep, Angela is in both (and opposite Kate Hepburn in SOTU... and boy is she a PISTOL in both! Whew.
I was just referring to the fact that I'm old enough to have morphed into what I promised I'd not do - make fun of my kid's music...
Heh, me too. But I make fun of most of the music I used to listen, as well. The better your musical sense get the more you've heard and the less you like.
Spread the word. On the Sundance Channel tonight is a great documentary. The Sundance Channel is playing some important documentaries as the election approaches including a documentary marathon on election eve. Please send this information to everyone you know and have them check www.sundancechannel.com for show times.
Wednesday (10/27)
Uncovered: The Whole Truth About The Iraq War.
Thursday (10/2
With God On Our Side: George W. Bush and the Rise of the Religious Right in America
Monday (11/01)
Unprecedented: The 2000 Presidential Election
The Whole Truth About The Iraq War
Unconstitutional: The War on Our Civil Liberties
Bush's Brain
jps,
Well, frankly, I don't think there is much music anywhere - of any genre - that isn't overrated by someone. I just deal with a lot of indie hipster kids - the Elephant 6 bunch - so the whole Pet Sounds/White Album/Big Star axis of cool is glaring to me, and don't get me started on the punk rock kids.
The first time I heard someone refer to Hank Williams - an all-time favorite of mine - as a "dark, torturned poet of the common man", I knew I was getting hip deep into it. The only person I can think of off the top of my head who deserves every accolade given to him is Sam Cooke, and that's probably cause he died before he got a chance to level out.
In honor of Tom DeLay's attack against Kos, perhaps it's time for R.E.M. to dust off "Exhuming McCarthy."
What a ma-roon.
Backslider:
Jeeze. Next thing I know, you'll be telling me that Warren Zevon never saw a werewolf drinking a pina colada at Trader Vic's, Jerry Garcia never played cards with a 900-pound wolf, and Lennon & McCartney never read the news today.
Oh boy.
PS: I don't know how to do smileys. So, Spork Incident, just imagine one of those icons there, winking away!
Go Sox! The Cardinals suck. (Cubs fan!)
Make that a 600 pound wolf.
Damned fingers.
I'm pretty sure the Nixon movie you're talking about is directed by Robert Altman -- I think its called Secret Honor....
That's it. Google refused to be my bitch today, and wouldn't cough up the name when I tried Nixon + movie [or film] + honor.
Thanks, steve simels.
MisterX,
Thats what I thought. She scares the crap out of me in both of those films.
She was a fine actress (at least for scaring the crap out of me) back in the day.
Thanks for the confirmation.
Kerry/Edwards In A LANDSLIDE!!
As far as political films goes... we saw "The Candidate" the other night. It holds up real well.
I'll bet you anything Richard Schiff studied Peter Boyle's performance as the campaign directory when creating the persona of Toby on the West Wing.
And "Crocker Jarmon" is just perfect as a name for a Republican nemesis. It's almost like they say Newt coming down the pike.
"Can't any longer play off black against old -- young against poor. This country cannot house its houseless -- feed its foodless. "
why did bill clinton appoint mike powell to the fcc?
there have to be at least two republicans. you got somebody you'd rather see?
(btw still trying to figure out whether campaign mailings on non-profit permits are legal. thx for any help.)
Sent to John Zogby today. His e-mail is john@zogby.com.
Mr. Zogby------
It is noted that in your latest polling, you persist in referring to the Democratic Party as the "Democrat" Party. There is no doubt that you are aware that Republicans have used the term "Democrat Party" as a term of derision and ridicule for over 50 years. It is indeed disappointing that a person previously respected in the public opinion field has chosen to buy into such a partisan approach to polling. I understand that in a previous e-mail today, you responded that you used the term because Republicans did not like the term "Democratic."
Up until this moment, I had respected your professionalism and your work and followed it closely. It is very sad, Sir, to discover that the Zogby reputation for quality, professionalism, and objectivity has vanished.
Very sad.
Now personally, I think Brian Wilson is way over-rated,
I don't really disagree. In fact, I'll go a step farther and say that ALL rock music - and many other kinds of music - are overrated. There's this endless drive to take something that has merely personal meaning and try to force it to be universal. I mean, I can't tell you how much "moving," "poetic," "soulful," "exciting" music sounds like halfwitted garbage to me. And that includes some stuff I like despite that fact! The mistake everyone makes is in saying, "It's important to me, therefore it has to be important to you, therefore if it's not you're an idiot."
I think it's valuable to recognize nicely done work, even when one doesn't enjoy it, so I can respect a lot of musicians that I wouldn't listen to on a bet. There are people who've had great ideas - and I'd include B. Wilson - that you can appreciate or learn a lot from without actually loving the music. But ultimately, Backslider's got it right: if you don't like it, don't listen to it!
The whole thing's completely personal, and this shit with bashing other people's taste is really not that different from bashing sexual orientation. If you don't want to have gay sex, don't...but let other people have it if they want, and respect their emotions. I don't like Dylan's music, as some people have noticed...but I completely respect what he means to other people and therefore I'm glad he's playing music and making people happy. Music's such a weird thing for people to get so goddamn touchy over.
Can someone please link the 100 facts and 1 opinion. I think if you do I can get a Florida swing voter to read it and vote for Kerry. thanks in advance
The Nixon movie by Robert Altman is, indeed, Secret Honor, and a special edition DVD was released within the past week or two.
Lisa,
You can find all the smilies if you hit the little question mark thingy under the URL box and above where you input your comment.
Kerry/Edwards In A LANDSLIDE!!
I'm pretty sure the Nixon movie you're talking about is directed by Robert Altman -- I think its called Secret Honor....
It's coming out imminently on Criterion. A really interesting film, and Philip Baker Hall is amazing.
In the spirit of blatant promotion, I have to put in a word for Ted Leo and the Pharmacists' "Shake the Sheets." It is all that is good in music today. And it's underground, to boot.
Now that I'm done with that, GOTV!
(predictions)
Kerry 50%
Bush 48.5%
Nader 1%
Badnarik/Peroutka/Cobb .5%
the above is by me. i didnt meant to put anonymous
I'm also pretty sure RUSH never went hurtling headlong into exctasy thru a blackhole.
Nonetheless it is a great song will last for a long time in the annals of musical history.
If the 60's are dead,why are we facig them all over again?
"Even the Smile version of Good Vibrations was revisionist and somewhat lacking in inspiration."
To whoever originally said that: actually, I think the "Good Vibrations" on Smile uses the original score/lyrics of the song. The single version released decades ago was the "revision."
I think Pet Sounds > SMiLE. SMiLE tries for a little too much and Pet Sounds is warmer, has better music, and is more cohesive.
Can someone please link the 100 facts and 1 opinion. I think if you do I can get a Florida swing voter to read it and vote for Kerry. thanks in advance
john Q
You can find a link at www.buzzflash.com
Can someone please link the 100 facts and 1 opinion.
Click here.
WHoops should have been mystery
not history.
My bad.
O! Good one. Thanks, Mister X.
monica_nyc
Another movie that resonates right now is Network with William Holden, Faye Dunaway, and Peter Finch (his last film), but I'm not sure everyone would call it a "political" movie. I would. Thats one I watch about once every two years or so...
John Q,
Click my homepage, I gotta link there.
It's coming out imminently on Criterion
I love Criterion.
Monica in nyc:
Glad to be of service.
Hmmm....I notice surfdork split.
Lisa sez:
Gonna spend my bucks on the Arrested Development DVD, most likely. Gotta move on, gotta move on.
Got mine a few days ago
Oh, and I don't live in Seattle. So don't come here looking to beat me up.
Me? In a fist fight? Bob Saget would put a video of that on TeeVee.
PS: I don't know how to do smileys. So, Spork Incident, just imagine one of those icons there, winking away!
Just click the blue question mark above the comment window.
.
Man, I've tried to like the new REM. I just can't. Too long and devoid of ideas.
The new Shatner though, wow. Seriously. Wow.
Hey Mister X:
I don't know if you saw my earlier
post, but if you want I'll burn you
a copy of the Television album...
New thread: NYT reports about catblogging. WTF?
Kerry/Edwards In A LANDSLIDE!!
thank you nyc monica and philasethes. My friend is socially liberal but a former airforce vet of 9 years. he;s like my father who voeted for bush today (mom for kerry) he watches tv but doesnt read the papers and does not delve beneath the suface. they think people are honorable until definite proof otherwise. im sure my airforce friend will vote for kerry based upon my personal appeal (is that the ontological argument?) the 100 facts will be icing on cake. this one bush to kerry vote is more valuable than my 200 beans to kerrys general campaign account.
so the whole Pet Sounds/White Album/Big Star axis of cool is glaring to me, and don't get me started on the punk rock kids.
I agree. I think the endlessly lauded first Big Star album is almost totally worthless (though I like the third one). The White Album's basically a disaster, and "Pet Sounds" is overrated too ("I Wasn't Made for These Times" is so maudlin it drives me nuts); doesn't stop me from enjoying all of them, in some moods.
And punk-rock kids are infuriating, and always have been, and I'm speaking as someone who saw almost every one of the original "greats" live in small clubs before he was twenty. Also infuriating are jazz snobs and blues snobs and classical snobs and, well...snobs in general! I worked in a record store too, and had lots of run-ins with indie hipsters who raised my hackles so much that I couldn't listen, anymore, to stuff I'd previously thought was inoffensive or even OK.
Years later, though, I've relaxed a bit. Not being in that situation does wonders for your outlook...
Philalethes,
That's pretty much my story. Since ditching the music critic gig, I have to say I enjoy music a whole lot more than I did previously.
Oddly enough - or maybe not, considering out different music tastes - I never cared for the third Big Star record, though I dig the first two. My brother, however, refused to listen to any Big Star, Replacements, Pixies and other assorted "hipster friendly" bands for years...mainly because of the people who did nothing but yodel their praise. And he still doesn't care much for the Mats or Pixies.
The White Album, a disaster?
Back in the USSR
Dear Prudence
Mother Nature's Son
I'm So Tired
Blackbird
While my Guitar Gently Weeps
Revolution
Helter Skelter
Cry Baby Cry
I Will
Yeah, what a litany of failure...
I'll admit, there's a lot of "fill" on there that I could take or leave, but the songs I listed above would make any other artist's career.
She was a fine actress (at least for scaring the crap out of me) back in the day.-kent
Yeah, shit. I still get a curious mix of goosebumps and vertigo in that scene in Manchurian Candidate where she kisses Lawrence harvey (her son!) FULL ON THE MOUTH for just a second TOO LONG. Brrrr. See, look at my arm. Goosebumps just thinking about it. That's pretty powerful acting.
dj dangermouse's mash of the White Album and Jay-Z's Black Album. it's a trip.
To whoever originally said that: actually, I think the "Good Vibrations" on Smile uses the original score/lyrics of the song. The single version released decades ago was the "revision."
I'd be interested if that could be authenticated. I would tend to doubt it because (a) I can distinctly hear the 2004 hoarse Brian Wilson voice in the mix on Smile and (b) I don't recall seeing the original Beach Boys (other than Brian) in the credits.
Agree that Pet Sounds is much better than Smile as a songwriting achievement.
malacandra --
all these years, I thought I was the
only person who swooned for cry, baby, cry...
MisterX,
ding ding ding---creepiest moment in a verry creepy movie. You put it perfectly.
Kerry/Edwards In A LANDSLIDE!!
Mister X????
Helloooo??????
Oh, and another good political thriller/tin-foil-hattery wet dream is The Parallax View with Warren Beatty. Still holds up well even though it came out in the early 1970s and was obviously aimed at JFK/RFK/Warren Comission-type assassinations. Some excellent direction...
steve simels,
I guess that there are three of us in the room.
Dear Prudence kills me as well
Kerry/Edwards In A LANDSLIDE!!
White Album is excellent, but I'm hardly impartial.
Some of it doesn't work, but sections of Grey Album are quite good.
I'm looking forward to A Perfect Circle's new covers CD, due on Election Day.
steve simels - Check your InBox... or maybe your junk mail folder. Lemme know if I got through.
Tweety just had an 'exclusive' interview with Kerry. I could tell it was in Philadelphia, from Monday, wonder why he didn't show it till today.
Misterx:
No, I got nothing.
Weird....
According to Wikipedia, the lyrics on the new release of SMiLE are original:
"Interestingly, although Brian was reported to have only included "Good Vibrations" in the original Smile track listing at Capitol's insistence, a new version of the song--featuring Wilson's original lyrics, rather than the later Mike Love lyrics--was included as the closing track of the album."
BEASTIE BOYS To the 5 Boroughs
First album in many years, motivated by the attack on NYC and Shrub's 'misadventures'. Great wordplay and funny and by far their most political. Great music for the new democratic majority.
-------
ANTIBALAS Who Is This America?
Great political afro-pop. Song: "Indictment" calls out the many criminals of the Bush II years.
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BW's Smile is a brilliant lost masterpiece - the concept album that chronicles the history of America. Still topical and insightful.
Well, since we're on the topic of crass commercialism, how about a little shameless self-promotion of my own stuff?
Oh, shameless commerce you say?
How about my Salvador Dalai Lama gear?
I second the vote for the new A Perfect Circle CD. The cover of "Let's Have a War" alone will be worth the price of admission!
BUY SMILE
BUY SMILE
Let's have a war!
It could start in New Jersey!
--- Les Cahiers de Lee Ving
Angela Lansbury is one hell of an actress. State of the Union and The Manchurian Candidate are fine films. She was top form in Sweeney Todd (kudos!) But you guys are missing her seminal work, Mrs. Fletcher in Murder She Wrote. Don't act like you guys don't watch that show every morning at 10:00 in A & E.
theodoric, the RECORDING of SMiLE's "Good Vibrations" is new and contemporaneous w/ the rest of that album, ie: done in 2004. The lyrics and arrangement, however, are the original "Good Vibrations" as opposed to the revision that actually was released decades ago.
So it's the old, original VERSION on SMiLE, not the 1960's single version, but it's NEWLY recorded.
Can't wait to see the confrontation between Mithrandir and the Witch King of Angmar (the Lord of the Nazgul) in the extended ROTK...even though it never actually happened in the book, it'll be cool to see what they do with it. [/nerd]
Yeah, only real, dyed-in-the-wool Tolkien nerds call him "Mithrandir".
And elves.
PAVEMENT'S Crooked Rain Crooked Rain was reissued yesterday as a fantastics 2 disc set chock full 'o goddies. Demos, B-Sides, Unreleased tracks....
Y'all need it if you don't already have it. Pavement. Yeah.
PAVEMENT'S Crooked Rain Crooked Rain was reissued yesterday as a fantastics 2 disc set chock full 'o goddies. Demos, B-Sides, Unreleased tracks....
Y'all need it if you don't already have it. Pavement. Yeah.
BTW, I don't like the SMiLE disc either.
bad mamma jamma
Neither do I. But I do embrace the White Album.
*
Ah, nothing like having a record of what was said.
This is my first post
SMILE SUCKS!
Fuck Brian Wilson.
OK now that's of myy chest.
SHAMELESS PLUG FOR FRIENDS BAND:
http://www.emphasis.org/coiler/music.htm
Download Rogue Nation and feel free to distribute at will.
Band's name is Coiler.
You people are telling me to chill out?
Jeebus do you see ANY personal attacks here?
Am I saying that YOU suck?
Next post
Hey, go ahead and attack me cuz I say SMILE sucks and so does Brian Wilson.
Pet Sounds is not that good of an album.
Fuck the Beach Boys, NONE OF THEM SURFED.
But why are you attacking my friends band?
And what was HORRIBLE?
What song did you download?
I'm curious because the have loads of fans and fill the house with their regular weekly gig.
So, what is your constructive criticism jps?
BTW, the 60's are OVER, they have been OVER for a while.
Duty now for the future.
Note all of the above are opinions and no attack has been levelled at any individual on this board.
BTW JPS did respond, and responded appropriatley.
RESPONSE:
Still pretty mellow
BTW, the 60's are OVER, they have been OVER for a while.
So are the '70s, '80s, and '90s. Unless your friend's band invented a new musical form or genre, they are living in the past, man.
Alex | Email | Homepage | 10.27.04 - 7:50 pm | #
NONE OF THEM SURFED.
Shows what you know. Dennis most certainly did surf.
Note no personal attacks until:
Pet Sounds most certainly does not suck. Your name is very appropriate surfDORK.
Fuck you, the Beach Boys are Americana, they are legend.
I personally prefer harder music, more Rock and Roll, but the Beach Boys were an important band.
you suck.
krsaz | Email | Homepage | 10.27.04 - 7:55 pm | #
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Response:
I call bullshit on that.
I'll repeat, THE 60's are OVER.
Wanna be a farking hippie in John Q Public's eyes? Keep on reliving the 60's, no better way to turn off people.
Still no personal attacks from me
Ok, nobody smoke whatever the hell surfdork is smoking.
Dave J. | Email | Homepage | 10.27.04 - 8:02 pm | #
OK now I fight back, in other words lower the level of discourse:
No fucking shit. Wow, I must have thrown out all of my original Beatles albums.
Oh yeah , I never listen to anything from the 60's.
Moron.
Someone looked at what I wrote and called me a moron for throwing away beatles albums.
It's called sarcasm.
Now I'm the bummer?
Surfdork, you're being, like, a bummer, man.
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Hmm so i respond in kind to krsaz. Note, no presonal attacks to any other respondent i.e. lisa, steve smiles You know, surfdork is obviously a...
I also embrace Joan Didion's book of the same name. Tres fantastique.
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Hmm so i respond in kind to krsaz. Note, no presonal attacks to any other respondent i.e. lisa, steve smiles You know, surfdork is obviously a...
ahem....er....okay, an idiot.
And this
Wow I think SMILE sucks and I get all of this VENOM.
That's not what you said. You spewed the venom.
I did not attack anybody personally
Be a person. Nobody here wants to converse with the Anne Coulter of music criticism.
Lisa | Email | Homepage | 10.27.04 - 8:16 pm | #
Folks like Surfdork just wanna give their pallid little lives a bit of unearned extra meaning by pretending that an accident of birth gives 'em some kind of aesthetic edge. Trashing people for liking the Beach Boys? Wow, what a tough guy you are! Don't care whose toes you step on, huh?
Philalethes | Email | Homepage | 10.27.04 - 8:17 pm | #
check for yourself, I have not insulted anybody for liking the beach boys.
So why do they think I am?
Ah, y'all are proving my point.
I can make an asinie criticism and do I get a kind response?
NOPE!
Folks you just failed a simple psych 101 experiment.
As it is, you're being a dick, plain and simple.
So I'm a dick for having a loud abrasive opinion about an artist?
Even though I did not insult you personally?
I don't really think I need to post anymore, YOUR words speak for themselves.
Monica A,
I'm sorry, have to admit that while I like similar shows e.g. columbo, I just never really got into that show.
I will have to check out sweeny todd on your suggestion. Heard about it never seen it, but now I will keep my eyes open.
Kerry/Edwards In A LANDSLIDE!!
From Roger Friedman, ,the only good thing about FoxNews
'Three Kings' Doc Will Air Election Eve
IFC, the Independent Film Channel, is going to air David O. Russell's documentary "Soldiers Pay" on Monday night, aka. election eve.
Russell, you may recall, made the 35-minute film to be on the DVD of his 1999 movie "Three Kings." But when Warner Bros. saw it, they said no, and even chucked plans to re-release the excellent "Three Kings" to theaters for a limited run.
I saw "Soldiers Pay" early last month, and I can tell you that this is something not to be missed. The short film is composed largely of straight-on interviews with soldiers from the current war in Iraq and from Desert Storm in 1991.
They have eye-opening anecdotes about their tours of duty, and if you're one of the people who sports a "Support Our Troops" yellow sticker on your car, watching this film is vitally part of that movement.
Russell interviews soldiers both pro and anti-war, as well as Iraqis, Democrats and Republicans. He says: "The soldiers uniformly report how ill-equipped American forces are, not even having proper gas masks or water supply or flak vests — while private Halliburton contractors, former soldiers doing exactly what our troops are doing — earn huge salaries and enjoy vast privileges and the best equipment available."
And then, of course, there's "Three Kings," one of the "new classics" that somehow got overlooked when it was released five years ago.
It features great performances by George Clooney, Mark Wahlberg, Nora Dunn, Ice Cube, Jamie Kennedy (yes, the same one who had that annoying show on TV) and "Being John Malkovich" director Spike Jonze.
And yes, by the way, Russell is the writer-director of the current comedy, "I Heart Huckabees," which couldn't be more different from "Three Kings" and "Soldiers Pay."
Three Kings is a great movie!
Does anybody think that surfdork is
actually some crafty performance
artist version of an asshole?
Me, neither.
I don't really think I need to post anymore
Jesus, ya promise. Ya don't like the fuckin' Beach Boys? Fine. Don't listen to 'em, but for cryin' out loud, do move on with your life.
re: BTVS season 7:
I wasn't thrilled about the overall season, either, except for some individual episodes (the aforementioned Conversations w/ Dead People - awesome!!) until I read Nancy Holder's essay "Slayers of the Last Arc" in the book SEVEN SEASONS OF BUFFY. Great essay - really put the last season (especially the last several episdoes) into a different perspective.
I'm looking forward to the DVD coming out so I can watch it again with new eyes.
belle and sebastian. don't forget Belle & Sebastian. they're good. really, really good.
Dissenting opinion here. I think the new SMiLE is utterly fantastic, and I am one of those "High Fidelity" types who owns several hours of outtakes from the original SMiLE sessions (plus 150 Pink Floyd bootlegs, 150+ Todd Rundgren boots, and 200+ Beatles bootlegs, and over 6000 albums -- vinyl and CD -- total). The new SMiLE literally brings tears to my eyes, not least because I know the backstory.
I also think all three Big Star albums are simply transcendent. The best artists today (IMHO) are Flaming Lips and Radiohead.
also cool (plug time):
http://www.echoesoftyme.com/
Bill, I'm with you on Big Star. Saw
'em live, actually, and they were amazing.
Tell me about the original SMILE
boots....how close to finished are
the original tracks?
New REM cd is boring.
Brian Wilson is one of the 10 most important songwriters ever, BTW, whether one likes him or not.
The Beatles learned a lot from him and his production tech.
Does anybody think that surfdork is
actually some crafty performance
artist version of an asshole?
Like Soy Bomb Guy?
I love Elvis Costello. I have had an intense affair with him since 1977, when my Italian bf introduced me to Elvis. I write poetry; Jim had the foresight to know that Elvis writes poetry. Long live Elvis. Cool moon tonight!
GAS HUFFER SUX!!
I hear that none of them actually huff gas!!!
Ooh! I love Big Star! And this is what, the third music thread in like a week and a half? Not complaining, mind you. Just curious.
I think Atrios is doing it b/c he knows it'll keep us busy so he can watch the Red Sox win.
Any fans of The Move out here?
I also think all three Big Star albums are simply transcendent.
I never travel far
Without a little
Big Star
I love the Move!
Apropos, have you ever hear "Vote for Me" an unreleased single on the Movements box set?
GREAT song!
I like Farscape...
It was very good but nobody watched it because it looked wierd. It hada nice message, was very edgyand funny.
Sadly, it got cancelled, but at least Sci-fi made a mini series finally to end it. It's expensive on DVD, but if you get a chance to watch it on a rerun, take it. If you liked buffy you might like it, it has a lot of the same energy.
Max,the compilation I have. Great stuff, a ton of fun. Very influential for Cheap Trick, especially, and a buddy of mine has seen Roy Wood play with CT once or twice.
New Gov't Mule's Deja Voodoo is great (smart and muscular guitar rock) and I've just discovered The Flaming Lips The Soft Bulletin and Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots (prog rock for the 21st century). I know Atrios likes his prog rock.
NYMary --
Ah, the Move. I swoon.
Blackberry Way and Fire Brigade....
oh god...
and they had lots more just as good...
Yep, the Move was a HUGE influence on Cheap Trick..their version of California Man breaks into "Brontosaurus"
Wasn't until I got into the Move that I made the connection.
Roy's solo stuff is great as well as Wizzard-Eddy and the Falcons is awesome!
MaxVol--
Ever hear Wizzard's Carlsberg Special?
One of the funniest instrumentals
ever......
To Steve Simels: The original SMiLE Sessions are terrifyingly close to what the '04 version sounds like. Those Wondermits guys are acolades of the purest sort. There are some interesting outtakes not included (permutations of what we fanatics knew as "Do You Dig Worms" and a thing called "George Fell Into His French Horn") but if you're not a fanatic for studio outtakes, you're fine with the legit stuff.
There are, like, THREE CDs of Good Vibrations sessions.
To NY Mary and Max Vol: I'm a HUGE Move fan. I even have Move bootlegs. To name a few:
1967 Live on Swedish Radio
1969 Scarborough England
10-22-70 NME
10-16-69 Fillmore West
1970 Dusseldorf
04-29-81 Reunion Birmingham
"Looking In"
"Black Country Rock"
"Colour Me Rare"
"Family Tree"
Hell, I even have an ELO concert boot with Wood still in the fold, and a show by Roy Wood's Big Band! And a video of them performing 4 or 5 songs on German TV. Waaay Waaaay too obsessive.
The Killers CD is an absolute must darlings. I don't know if they're English, but it's an absolute dish.
Kisses...
Hey Steve,
Have that LP...Let's not forget "Bend Over Beethoven" Roy's kiss off to Jeff Lynne taking over ELO!
I really like the new "Smile"--and I'm speaking as someone who is very cynical of Brian Wilson's motives these days and the whole cult of Beach Boys worshippers. I was expecting it to be an embarassment-but it's excellent!
Can't say the same about the Costello-haven't heard it but he's done nothing good to my ears since "Brutal Youth"....but I think "Trust" was the last great LP he did, so what do I know? I wish guys like him, Joe Jackson, Billy Joel, Paul Simon, Paul McCartney, etc. could write a decent two and a half minute radio song (like they did when they were young, horny and pissed off) instead of dabbling in psuedo-classical b.s.
REM has been tired for a long time. Check out "Blueberry Boat" by the Fiery Furnaces!
Hey Bill,
Do you have any Move video?
Roy Wood is WAYYYYYY underrated! I saw him in NYC a couple years ago and he was great! A real eccentric.....
Bill (or an incredible sim):
Very interesting about Smile...I had
always assumed that the original
sessions were mostly unfinished
sounding. I gotta see if I can find
some of the boots.
And speaking of which, you have
a live boot of the Move from the
Fillmore from 69? Good lord, man,
that's the Shazam line-up...what's
the quality like?
Max Vol: Ah yes, Bend Over Beethoven
-- remember when pop music was allowed
to be smart AND fun?
Max Vol --
I have an underground collection called "Best of Beat Beat Beat." The Move do 4 or 5 numbers. Excellent quality black and white. Lots of The Creation and Manfred Mann on the same DVD. Amazing stuff.
Bill (or similar),
OK, I'm totally overawed. Eschaton truly is where geeks find their own.
Also, I like Rundgren as a songwriter, but I've heard his a kind of careless producer. Any comment?
SS -- Sadly, Fillmore 69 is noting special soundwise.
I also have a copy (CDR) of the ultra-rare "Back to the Story" 2CD set by The Idle Race.
Fanatic, I tell ya!
Okay, I gotta try.....
The Monks -- Black Monk Time.
Anybody else nuts about it?
Steve-
There's stuff out there that is smart and fun now..just have to look for it..
Hey, the Move Fillmore-that was supposed to get a legit release-I've been dying to hear that!
Ah..the Monks..now THAT is Punk Rock!
I'd argue that FOW's Welcome Interstate Managers is both smart & fun, myself.
A little late to the party, but yeah, the new "Smile" is awesome. "Good Vibrations" started as a post-"Pet Sounds" number, and a snippet of the original Tony Asher/Brian Wilson lyrics can be heard (among other places) on the "Good Vibrations" box set. As to the "Smile" remake being the "original" arrangement, that's pretty shaky - there were several "final" mixes of the '66 version, and IIRC, the next-to-last featured a bouncy keyboard-driven "gotta keep those lovin' good vibrations happenin' with her" arrangement at the end.
The killer cut on the new "Smile" is, of course, "Mrs. O'Leary's Cow," fully reconstituted with in-your-face fuzz guitar and a high vocal whine that later went on to appear in "Smiley Smile's" "Fall Breaks and Back to Winter" (and which validates Brian's comment at the time that "I don't have to start a fire - I can make a candle"). But the suite composed of "Holidays," "Child is Father to the Man," and "Surf's Up" is also a revelation, as is "Roll Plymouth Rock" with its previously-only-hinted-at lyrics.
What stands out most about this version of "Smile" (and I've been tracking this since the early 70s) is how fully formed and of a piece it is - as if it's existed in Brian's mind all these years, despite the constant denials... can't wait to see him here in SF two days after Kerry's landslide!
Tood as a producer. Megalomaniac. Most who worked with him have unkind things to say afterwards. But he does a stellar job, I say. His is an overbearing presence in the studio.
He has done at least two production jobs that SUCK -- Utopia's POV and The Tubes' Love Bomb. But then he's done some production that's un-friggin-believable, including XTC's Skylarking, The Tubes' Remote Control, and his own albums.
Andy Partridge (XTC) bitched for years about Todd, but eventually came around to realize TR had done a great job for them.
Rumor had it that Ringo wanted Todd to produce the sessions that yielded "Free as a Bird" and "Real Love." I would have loved that, tho Jeff Lynne id ok.
If you wanna read more about Todd, go to troupserpress.com and look him up. I wrote that piece (plus one on Pink Floyd, and I'm working on one now about ... wait for it ... Brian Wilson.
Hey NYMary-
If I may chime in, as far as Rundgren the producer goes, check out "Skylarking" by XTC-their best LP of Beatle-ish chamber-pop and the best thing I ever heard TR produce....
Max Vol:
It was supposed to get a legit release?
Wow...do you know when?
And of course I was being snarky about
the whole smart and fun thing....
This is cool.
Fountains of Wayne. VERY cool. I have their first (unreleased) album from when they were known as Pinnwheel.
The Monks. I have them on German TV also. Electric banjo rocks! And that "people die for you" stuff is quite timely right-about now...
Actually, the person I was discussing this with called TR's production--even on Skylarking--"sonically harsh". Something about mike placement? I dunno. Anyway, it was someone who listens for this kind of thing. Hey, I'm in it for the poetry and the pop...
Mary-Good call on FOW!
Steve-I'm on the Move mailing list and supposedly it is in the queue of releases..but I've not heard anything more about it..
Idle Race is great-I lucked out and picked up an original copy of "The Birthday Party" for $1.99 in a used record store a few years back!
Re: Rundgren as a producer.
For The Pursuit of Happiness's Love
Junk, Todd deserves respect from
mere mortals.
NYMary: as for FOW, I heartily concur.
What an amazing album....
Re. cheap releases --
I bought sealed LPs of Badfinger's "No Dice" and "Ass" in the 1980s. And I found used-but-never-played LPs of the first two Big Star LPs in the mid 80s for about $10 each. Stuff is harder to find now of course.
SMiLE and the "No Thanks" box set are the only CDs I've bought in the last nine months.
steve,
lots of people don't like FOW's Utopia Parkway, but I do.
"She's So Young" never fails to give me chills. Pure pop that -- in a just world -- would rule the airwaves.
Bill,
Great piece on Rundgren, btw.
Bill (or an incredible sim)--
I have the german Monk video stuff
too....amazing.
Can I ask you something sort of OT?
Given that you're this huge High
Fidelity kind of collector guy....
do you by any chance have a copy
of the National Lampoon Goodbye
Pop LP? The one with Chris Guest's
Neil Young parody?
Hey NYMary-
I don't think "Skylarking" is sonically harsh at all...I was lucky to enough to score a Mobile Fidelity Golddisc CD version of it...I alway found TR own stuff a little fussy and thin-sounding...I do know he used to smoke mountains of weed...
Anybody into Fountains of Wayne should also check out another band main songwriter Adam Schlesinger is in (with his wife on vocals) called Ivy.....
Smile is good. It's not fantabulous, it's not shit. It's good. VERY good, even.
Props to whoever mentioned belle & sebastian.
Also, if you want good political-rock, Ted Leo and the Pharmacists will rock your socks.
Interpol rocks.
The Walkmen also rock (download "The Rat").
Th Arcade Fire's debut is absolutely incredible.
I love the Shins, and M83 as well.
And there is oh so much more, but I thought I'd throw my 2 cents (and favorite modern bands) into the fray.
If you are a Badfinger and/or Raspberries fan, may I suggest the two disc comp of Youngstown, OH's (my hometown) own Blue Ash.
It's called "Around Again" and is on Not Lame. Veery good if you like power pop.
Skylarking is brilliant, no doubt, but whether that credit goes to Partridge or Rundgren is debatable. Partridge, FWIW, has since apologized & just said working wih Rundgren was hard on his ego. But a transendent record, truly. I have it on vinyl with Mermaid Smiles and without Dear God.
Todd Rundgren's Nazz.
Your thoughts?
Max, Not Lame is a great label, but they do have a frustrating tendency to let stuff go out of print.
steve,
I love "Open My Eyes"--that's Nazz, right?
Well, Mary BUY IT NOW!
Speaking of XTC-I was listening to Apple Venus and I cannot stop listening to "Green Man"
Blue Ash -- Bill Bartolin (bass) lent me his copy years ago, and I cleaned it up and put it on CD. The second album, on Playboy, I found in a used bin decades ago.
I also got about three hours of unreleased tapes from Bartolin and Frank Secich (gtr), and a couple live shows. I didn't know about the new stuff being out, but I *was* approached some months ago by a guy who was putting something together; he was inquiring what I had, for possible inclusion. I didn't let on what-all I had, though I suspect he had most of it as well.
Raspberries. Got lots of bootlegs of them as well, though sadly no studio outtakes.
I have ALL of the Hudson Brothers LPs on CDR. Razzle Dazzle indeed!
Geek! I confess!
Todd is God!
Max, Never fear... I have a current CD, plus the whole catalog "Ten Feet Tall" off White Music, I think, is maybe the best of early XTC. I also have The Coat of Many Colors discs, Homegrown, and the Apple Venus sessions.
Red Sox just won the series.
Boston wins!!!
Ok, Bill.
The Hudson Brothers!? Wow. They used to have a TV show when I was a kid (early 70's perhaps?). I loved 'em. Whatta geek, right?
I have ALL of the Hudson Brothers LPs on CDR.
Wow!!!
Bill,
Had demos of all the Blue Ash stuff for a number of years. I never traded it around because I didn't want it to be booted.
Ahh.. The Hudson Brothers- Ba Fa is a pretty good record and "So You Want to Be a Star" is awesome..
Jeepers! Did someone mention Deja Voodoo? I haven't thought of that band in a long time... didn't they do the song "Cheese and Crackers"? Deja Voodoo sounded like The Cramps on (what we now call) anti-depressants...
Anybody into XTC might want to check out the new disc by Dogs Die In Hot Cars....they are almost shameless in aping "Drums and Wires"-era XTC...but still pretty good...
And as a NYCer....thank god I don't have to hear about that stupid curse anymore!
"So You Are a Star" was one groovy cut... I got that album down in the basement somewhere.
I commute an hour each way, and I listen to a lot of music in the car. It's good, empty time to analyze alternate versions of things.
And yeah, Greenman is brilliant. A character out of the Brit pastoral tradition (think Tom Bombadil as one embodiment). Partridge loves that stuff. He's a smart guy too, it seems. But I thought XTC had tons of stuff waiting to come out after their long hiatus. Why nothing since Wasp Star? Or did I miss it? (I don't think I did.)
steve,
I love "Open My Eyes"--that's Nazz, right?
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Mais oui.
And there's a live cover version out
there somewhere -- I downloaded years
ago but seem to misplaced it --
by the Wondermints, AKA Brian Wilson's
Smile band.
Got here late.
I LOVE The Move. 'Cherry Blossom Clinic.' 'Hello, Susie.' 'Message From The Country!!!!'
Was a big TR fan - grew up hanging around him a lot in Philly. Always loved him more as a guitarist than a producer - although the album that he produced half of for Badfinger (the one with 'No Matter What' - 'No Dice,' mebbe?) was real good.
He was, and still probably is, a hell of a guitar player.
Big Move/TR/Cheap Trick confluence - 'Next Position, Please.' Horrible.
Okay, as you were.
I just heard about Dogs Die in Hot Cars today-will have to check them out..
Also, can I venture the suggestion that we have officially run out of band names now..
And didja know that Cheap Trick's guitarist Rick Neilsen actually replaced TR in The Nazz?
Sign of a true optimist:
I really thought, for a long time, that the problems with "Next Position Please" were intentional, sort of a precursor of lo-fi, Guided by Voices style production. Dorky me.
Hey Stranger,
Actually, I have a live tape of Nazz with Rick playing guitar, and I swear they do CT's "So Good to See You" if I am not mistaken.
Was Fuse before or after that?
NY Mary-
No new things since Wasp Star but Andy Partridge has released several cds of XTC demo/minutia....
http://www.ape.uk.net/
Blue Ash....wow.
I'm so old I actually know the guy
who signed them to Mercury.
Someone did point out that "California Man," on CT's first album, is actually a Move song, though not listed as such.... right?
Interesting theory, NYMary.
Todd always was one for trying to twist production in new and different ways. Hell, it took me a couple of months to even get 'A Wizard, A True Star.' Became one of my favorite albums, tho.
And points plus to whoever mentioned Pursuit of Happiness. 'I'm An Adult Now' is still one of my favorite songs.
Max Vol:
That thing about Rick Neilsen playing
with Nazz is not apocryphal? I knew
he had something going with Stewkey,
but hmmmmmmm......
Fuse was lousy, if I recall.
Also, the CT CD "Special One" comes with a DVD that contains some really old performance video.
Who's in NYC? The Smithereens, Glenn Tillbrook, Marshall Crenshaw, and SOuthern Culture on the Skids, this Friday at Irving Plaza.
Yes on California man.
They put out a record a couple of years ago on Red Ant records (referred to as 'The Red nt Album'), and there was a bonus CD on which they did a bang-up version of 'Brontosaurus.'
And I just laid my hands on a fan club release of 'In Color,' remixed by Steve Albini. It is wild - so much better than the candy-coated original version.
steve -
CT and Philly are all intertwined. Hammerin' Hank Ransome played with CT for a while when they were called Sick Man of Europe, when Bun E. busted his arm.
And I believe there is a Nazz record with Neilsen on it. The third Nazz album, which died a quick and painless death.
Parting shot before I go...hot tub time.
Cleaner From Venus. F**king brilliant.
Steve,
Can't vouch for the authenticity of this-I traded for it-perhaps it is a tape of "Sick Man of Europe" the CT precursor? Stewkey was in that band..Who knows..
Gotta go....my aging bones need
to spend several hours in a G'ouald
sarcophagus.
Be assured you all are amazing!
Another little-known (or cared about) fact - when Tom Petersen was on the outs with CT, he named his band Sick Man of Europe. That Pete Comita guy who replaced him was in the band, as was his wife Dagmar.
I played a lot of shows with them. You could tell that Petersen was really sad to not be with the rest of CT.
And they never truly rocked with the replacement guys, anyway.
Gotta run too, great chatting with you all..
Cleaners of Venus-have never heard them, but the Martin Newell solo stuff is great..same guy right?
stranger,
What was your band?
At the time, we were called Up All Night.
We were from Philly originally, and played high schools and coffee houses with Rundgren, Hall & Oates, and a bunch of other Philly guys. Moved to New York, played a lot, crashed, burned.
Thanks. I'm no musician, just a real music geek, obviously. My lifelong dream is to write a history of power pop. Ah, someday...
Of course, the flip of the Move's "California Man" was... "Do Ya."
Look out, baby, there's a planet comin'!
not that anyone cares:
i love the beach boys
'let him run wild' is awesome
and murray wilson could surf like a motherfucker
Smile is a beautiful record, the new R.E.M. sucks (though I saw them live last weekend and they were pretty good).
Pick up Bjork's Medulla and Sonic Youth's Sonic Nurse if you get the chance--they're both stellar.
Guided by Voices has a new CD (Half Smiles of the Decomposed) out which I haven't listened to yet. Of course Bob Pollard always seems to have a new CD out but this is reportedly the last as GBV.
The last Swell CD (Whenever You're Ready) is one of my favorites.
Don't know if I like the new Camper CD yet. I need to listen a few more times.
The new GbV is a great last LP! They are sounding more and more like the Who (at least to these ears)!
I tried, I reallly tried to listen to the new REM, but I just can't stomach their latest turn. The last song of theirs I liked was "Lotus," from "Up," and that was, what, seven years ago?
Tom Waits.
Any fans of The Move out here?
Proud owner of the UK 3-CD Move box.. And now that baseball season is over, can now attend to other important things: like seeing some friends from different bands convene as a Cheap Trick cover band on Halloween night..
Saw Brian Wilson peform "Smile" in Boston last week.. Just absolutely stunning.. Believe!
New Leonard Cohen: too weird for immediate comment.
The Killers CD is an absolute must darlings. I don't know if they're English, but it's an absolute dish.
Kisses...
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