I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
blurst.
Good going, Atrios. Thanks
Move On people are God sent.
Schweet, but I wish this had been a massive billboard campaign two months ago.
now, if we can just get the polling places out of churches ... have seen the christian coalition get away with putting out their "voters guides" with the voting instructions more times than I care to remember ...
Thanks, Atrios, but I got my own personal Election-Protection Card: it's thirty-two inches long, weighs about thirty-one ounces, is made of solid ash, and has Manny Ramirez's siggy on it.
Anybody got any questions?
I don't think it is legal to carry your card to a polling place B.T.L.
And they don't list Virginia why?
OT - We need a video dump this weekend and Monday of the Abu Ghraib (and Guantanamo) atrocities. The media has them and it's time to show the country the true evil of this administration.
The final nail in the coffin. No mercy.
*
What's right and what's legal are two different things, Lava.
Just sayin' that I let Manny Ramirez do my talkin' come voter-challenge time.
I am actually concerned that I may have been disenfranchised, so to speak. I still have not received my sample ballot from the county.
I guess I'll show up at my usual polling place on election day and give them hell (politely, though) if my name's not on the list.
Doh! they do list Virginia.
I don't think it is legal to carry your card to a polling place B.T.L.
Crap. Guess I better leave my Mjolnir armor, compliment of plasma grenades and Needler at home Tuesday. How boring.
Off topic, but is there any chance someone can post video of Bush's confetti snafu? Considering all the talk about Kerry's balloons at the Dem Convention, it only seems fair...
I don't think it was wise to refer to the phone no. as only for emergencies. Too easy to tie up the lines.
Besides, my Election Protection Card is a medically prescribed walking aide.
Need it to get around.
Let's see 'em fuck with the handicapped.
From 1010 Wins in NYC: John Kerry campaign balloon "possibly in distress" landed in Central Park. No further details.
From 1010 Wins in NYC: John Kerry campaign balloon "possibly in distress" landed in Central Park. No further details.
Sounds like the opening sequence to Spider-Man 3.
And since when was Kerry in a balloon? Sounds way weird.
B.T.Lib., the right to vote can't easily be defended with a baseball bat, as I'm sure you know. Are you perhaps trolling?
Billmons Back !
But 527's can use any slander they want against a candidate. Filthy disreputable organisations!
They made a Nazi ad!
DAS, did you type in your name at MyPollingSite.com? Its an easy way to check the status of your voter registration.
I just printed out 40 (10 pages) and I am going to walk around my nieghborhood as I walk the dog and place them in the mailbox of every house with a Kerry/Edwards sign that I see.
OT ~ Atrios, MSNBC is reporting that Al Jazeera is going to air a new OBL tape at 4:00 PM.
Must be Rove's surprise.
Folks if you have a video cam and are working the polls, helping transport voters, flushing etc. keep the cam with you just in case, charge the batteries tonite.
Have you seen this?
Via skippy, here's your preznit looking a bit peeved when the confetti went off before he was finished with his speech in New Hampshire today.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Anon @ 3:30,
That Mypollingsite.com URL is very cool. Thanks for sharing.
Doing happy dance. My polling station is down the street from me.
Not Kerry in the balloon. Just a hot air balloon with Kerry Edwards logo on the side. Apparently no one was hurt, so that is good.
I'll be voting on Reagan's grave this year. Literally. My polling place is the Reagan Library. I better find my flag pin and cross necklace -- otherwise they don't let you in. Heh. I love voting Dem there.
DISPLAY THIS CARD WITH PRIDE AND SAY
"IM WITH THE BAND!!!!!!"
DISPLAY THIS CARD WITH PRIDE AND SAY
"IM WITH THE BAND!!!!!!"
DISPLAY THIS CARD WITH PRIDE AND SAY
"IM WITH THE BAND!!!!!!"
DISPLAY THIS CARD WITH PRIDE AND SAY
"IM WITH THE BAND!!!!!!"
DISPLAY THIS CARD WITH PRIDE AND SAY
"IM WITH THE BAND!!!!!!"
DISPLAY THIS CARD WITH PRIDE AND SAY
"IM WITH THE BAND!!!!!!"
DISPLAY THIS CARD WITH PRIDE AND SAY
"IM WITH THE BAND!!!!!!"
DISPLAY THIS CARD WITH PRIDE AND SAY
"IM WITH THE BAND!!!!!!"
DISPLAY THIS CARD WITH PRIDE AND SAY
"IM WITH THE BAND!!!!!!"
From Holden's link
President Bush (news - web sites) pauses as confetti falls from the ceiling before the end of his speech at a campaign rally at Verizon Wireless Arena Friday, Oct. 29, 2004 in Manchester, N.H. The confetti exploded prematurely
Yup, exploded prematurely.
Just like his dad a few decades ago.
Jeebus!
Jazeera to air bin Laden tape at 4:00 PM EST
Fasten your seatbelts, folks. This is turning into a real bumpy ride.
That pic of Preznit McChimp looks like, well, defeat. Looks pretty defeat-y to me.
Looks like a bush what knows he is about to be clipped and tossed into the wheelbarrow for the trip to the dump.
Yeah Billmon!
Here's a happy voting story- at my polling place yesterday the poll workers were friendly, professional, and they absolutely were NOT challenging any voters.
But thanks for posting that Atrios- people need to know their rights.
From Newsmax (not the most reliable):
Among 16 percent of Florida voters who said they had cast early ballots, Kerry received 56 percent of those compared to Bush's 39 percent.
I'm Osama bin Laden, and I endorse George W. Bush.
Oh, god(dess), pllllleeasssse!
Damn. Bin Laden might be about to endorse Kerry just to try to ensure another Bush term.
'cuz you know Bush is the best thing that has happened to terrorists since the Kalishnikov.
Looks like a bush what knows he is about to be clipped and tossed into the wheelbarrow for the trip to the dump.
Lisa
Oh, Jeebus, I should have thought of that. I posted it straight over at First Draft, but it would have been much better with a caption like:
Nov. 3, 2004: George W. Bush concedes defeat.
So, OBL will whore for Dubya just before the election.
Just shows that evil attracts evil.
I'm Osama bin Laden, and I endorse George W. Bush.
Oh, god(dess), pllllleeasssse!
With the way the Bush campaign is flailing right now, that message would end with:
I'm George W. Bush and I approve this message.
Ah, to live in a battleground state. What fun this election could be.
Fourlegsgood, so I take it that you don't live in one of the swing states?
Simeon Wolf:
Refresh Much?
Jazeera to air bin Laden tape at 4:00 PM EST
OBL will explain the reasons for the 9/11 attacks? Um, didn't he do that already?
Let me guess. He's gonna say what a bad man Bush is, and the lemmings across the country are going to rush to the voting booths and pull the lever for Shrub in reaction thereto.
"Jeebus!
Jazeera to air bin Laden tape at 4:00 PM EST"
-elkal
But.. but what about the tape ABC broadcast yesterday?
This Jazeera tape, I think is genuine. Osama is nothing but an opportunist. Why the hell haven't we got him yet? meme
Fourlegsgood, so I take it that you don't live in one of the swing states?
He (UBL) is probably going to say he doesn't give a rat's ass who wins. Just my guess.
But only say it once, otherwise they may think you were struck by lightning at some point in early childhood.
If Bin Laden comes out for Kerry? That would be bad.
Otherwise, just knowing that this asshole is still alive can't help Bush and Company, 3 fucking years and they aren't even trying to catch him anymore.
Call your cable provider now, and ask them to get Al Jazeera!
I wonder OBL got his absentee ballot.
He (UBL) is probably going to say he doesn't give a rat's ass who wins. Just my guess.
Sofia
Yeah, but wouldn't it be great if he did a, "Nyah-nyah, can't catch me!" on Georgie's ass?
Wow, the contrasting confetti pics at Druge (I know, I know) are pretty amazing.
krsaz, bud, I hope you're right. I can't imagine OBL coming out for Kerry. This sounds like a hoax to me, but who knows.
krsaz-
Emailed you a "sorry" ....just once
Damn. Bin Laden might be about to endorse Kerry just to try to ensure another Bush term.
So... Now, a clever man would endorse the Nader, because he would know that only a great fool would vote for him. I am not a great fool, so I can clearly not choose Nader. But you must have known I was not a great fool, you would have counted on it, so I can clearly not choose the Kerry...uuurrrkk... voter falls over dead.
Thank you for disseminating this election protection card; this is what I love about the democracy-loving solution-based "the librahls" "reality-based communty."
"So I say to the American People, please re-elect President Bush, he has been my most willing puppet and has allowed the aims of Al-Queda to florish over the past three years."
Whats with all this "God bless you", crap? Is w running for pope? Or does he finally tell the truth and say God bless you, cuz I sure won't unless you are rich already.
So, OBL will whore for Dubya just before the election.
Wait'll you hear his version...
"No retreat baby, No Surrender!!"
You would have to assume that the OBL tapes would hurt Bush. But since Fox and Drudge seemed to be the first with the scoop that we have to wait and see what he says on the tapes. Kerry should definitely use the tapes to hammer home the points that Bush has screwed up the entire WOT.
"Yeah, but wouldn't it be great if he did a, "Nyah-nyah, can't catch me!" on Georgie's ass?"
Yep, that would be great. Pretty damning for Bush that UBL can still get out those videos at the time of his choosing. "On the run", indeed.
But he's been marginalized...
It doesnt matter what he says .....
Kerry will be able to use this again to hit Bush over the head and say ..
"Why is this guy still making videotapes ? He should be in prison or dead....!!!!!!!!!!"
What a closer for Tuesday.....
If anyone gets to see the tape, please post here what it says! I don't have al Jazeera!
haha
Will this be on the (US) news tonight?
WHY is old dirty bin Laden still out there making tapes???
Whats with all this "God bless you", crap? Is w running for pope?
Would you rather he say "My dad blesses you"?
Ya know, I'm actually not that concerned about these tapes. I really don't care where he is.[/w]
You know that Rove has a heads up on this tape coming out. What we need to to start doing is thinking how is Rove going to spin the tapes? Could they he be baiting Kerry into a reaction to the tapes? Anyone got any ideas?
The polling place site mentioned above, while nifty looking, does not have anything available for Arizona.
However, this site:
www.mypollingplace.com
takes you to a single page where you type in your street address, and up pops the polling location.
It's sponsored by People for the American Way and Election Protection.
Maybe he wants some back pay from all that time working for the CIA.
In 1979 "the largest covert operation in the history of the CIA" was launched in response to the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in support of the pro-Communist government of Babrak Kamal.2:
With the active encouragement of the CIA and Pakistan's ISI [Inter Services Intelligence], who wanted to turn the Afghan jihad into a global war waged by all Muslim states against the Soviet Union, some 35,000 Muslim radicals from 40 Islamic countries joined Afghanistan's fight between 1982 and 1992. Tens of thousands more came to study in Pakistani madrasahs. Eventually more than 100,000 foreign Muslim radicals were directly influenced by the Afghan jihad.3
The Islamic "jihad" was supported by the United States and Saudi Arabia with a significant part of the funding generated from the Golden Crescent drug trade:
In March 1985, President Reagan signed National Security Decision Directive 166,...[which] authorize[d] stepped-up covert military aid to the mujahideen, and it made clear that the secret Afghan war had a new goal: to defeat Soviet troops in Afghanistan through covert action and encourage a Soviet withdrawal. The new covert U.S. assistance began with a dramatic increase in arms supplies -- a steady rise to 65,000 tons annually by 1987, ... as well as a "ceaseless stream" of CIA and Pentagon specialists who traveled to the secret headquarters of Pakistan's ISI on the main road near Rawalpindi, Pakistan. There the CIA specialists met with Pakistani intelligence officers to help plan operations for the Afghan rebels.4
The Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) using Pakistan's military Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) played a key role in training the Mujahideen. In turn, the CIA sponsored guerrilla training was integrated with the teachings of Islam:
Predominant themes were that Islam was a complete socio-political ideology, that holy Islam was being violated by the atheistic Soviet troops, and that the Islamic people of Afghanistan should reassert their independence by overthrowing the leftist Afghan regime propped up by Moscow.5
Man, what I wouldn't give for a Friday edition of Daily Show with Jon Stewart.
"B.T.Lib., the right to vote can't easily be defended with a baseball bat, as I'm sure you know. Are you perhaps trolling?"
Jesus Christ, are you serious? Take a couple of pills and come back here tomorrow, BCE. Way too uptight.
elkal,
Because Bush is a fuck up.
I know -- OBL is going to rip off his own face and expose the truth: he is Karl Rove.
SURPRISE!
[tinfoilhat]
Tape shipped direct from CIA backlot to al Jazeera.
[/tinfoilhat]
Bye, George!
Whats with all this "God bless you", crap?
...apparently the Bush campaign has a dedicated sneezer they place in each audience near the stage to sneeze when Bush hits a certain note in his stump.
America's Most Wanted Criminal and International Terrorist is still out there, still making video tapes, still mocking America. George W. Bush can't catch him, but I can. I'm John Kerry and when I'm president, the scum of the earth will not be allowed to threaten our great nation.
If I were president Osama bin Laden would not be free to make videotapes.
Why does Bush look so unhappy? [yahoo photo]
No matter what's in the UBL video*, it'll be spun as a plus for Bush.
I am willing to bet cash money on this.
*Worst case scenario: UBL endorses Kerry
Best case scenario: UBL commits suicide
I'm going to end up with acid reflux if anything else happens today. Just call me Ashlee.
DAS, did you type in your name at MyPollingSite.com? Its an easy way to check the status of your voter registration.
Thank you for the suggestion. But MyPollingSite.com links only to the the county board of elections pages for my county ... this gives info, but I cannot search. I reckon I shoulda called someone.
I hope that the CIA leaks their 9/11 report this saturday in time for the Sunday papers and TV talk shows. Bye Bye Georgie.
I know -- OBL is going to rip off his own face and expose the truth: he is Karl Rove.
And I would have gotten away with it, too, if it wasn't for you meddling kids.
I went over twice to see the lines at the courthouse where I work in Pinellas County, FL, and it was 75 people deep at the polls. Kerry leads 56%-39% among early voters according to Quinnipiac.
Anon at 4:01 was me. Oops.
Do you think it's really AQ? I wonder if it's AL Rove? See what the last four years have done to me. I used to be a completely sane goddess and now I see a Repug behind every bush and they're real!
OT
Randy Rhodes is talking about you Atrios. She thinks that you are at the Daily Kos. She's talking about you breaking the Clonegate story.
She also said that she doesn't read the blogs because she is FACTS BASED.
WTF?
That's great -- I just wish it reminded people to demand a provisional ballot!
I am not looking forward to this particular bit of the bin Laden tape:
By the way! Thanks for the 350 tons of high explosives!! That was the last bit of stuff I needed for my basement science project!! You're gonna love it!!
That confetti video is an appropriate closing to the last 4 years of this national nightmare we will never forget.
Drudge putting up Kerry with a "wake up America" is perhaps the BEST line he could write.
Thanks butt plug Matt!
You're still a FUCK-TARD!
FYI, I've compiled a short list of odd names that I found on Yahoo's PeopleSearch, which people can use to counter all this talk about Dick Tracy and Mary Poppins.
If you're interested, click my homepage. If not, do a search yourself! You can find almost any weird name on that thing...
Whiskey Bar sign says "open"
Would you rather he say "My dad blesses you"?
May the blessings of George Herbert Walker Bush, father, son, and ineffectual President, be upon you and remain with you forevermore.
Amen.
Why does Bush look so unhappy? [yahoo photo]
Jefe <
Oooo. Very Nixonian.
You'll enjoy this photo
http://www.bartcop.com/ps1082.jpg
I don't think it was wise to refer to the phone no. as only for emergencies. Too easy to tie up the lines.
That was my worry, too. They should know by now that the Rethugs are going to be jamming the lines nonstop unless they order up some extra capacity, stat.
That being said, I'm glad they're out there.
I wonder how helpful they'll be with the union thugs and ACT's felons who are already conducting a national campaign of intimidation and violence against Republican voters?
Oh...I forgot...the only people with a real right to vote are liberals.
Anal,
I was going for the "Bush thinks he's Jebus" angle, but that one's just as funny.
A funny thing happened on the way to the cave. Ahmed showed up with a caravan of 380 tons of explosives marked al Qaqaa.
OT:
Here's what Wes Clark was saying a YEAR ago:
The Administration compounded its error by failing to plan realistically for post-war Iraq. Instead of listening to the experts at the State Department and throughout the government, who predicted the danger of chaos and looting, the Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld and his aides ignored their advice. Instead they relied on hope, hope that the Iraqi exiles would be accepted as legitimate, hope that the Iraqi police and military would provide security; hope that Iraqi oil revenues would finance reconstruction; and hope that we would be treated as liberators. How wrong they were - you can't build a plan on hope....
Meanwhile, the President rejected the advice of the uniformed military that we deploy enough troops not only to defeat Saddam's military but also to secure Iraq after Saddam's defeat.
As a result, we saw chaos, we lost the trust of the Iraqi people - and the enemy was emboldened.
I wonder how helpful they'll be with the union thugs and ACT's felons who are already conducting a national campaign of intimidation and violence against Republican voters?
Oh...I forgot...the only people with a real right to vote are liberals.
Isn't bad news for the administration always put out at the end of the day on Friday?
Surfdork:
LOL! Caption should read:
"Now, if I press REAL hard here, this little bugger'll pop like a tick on fire!"
You'll enjoy this photo
http://www.bartcop.com/ps1082.jpg
surfdor
Why is George Bush so gleefully fingering that baby's bare nipple?
I wonder how helpful they'll be with the union thugs and ACT's felons who are already conducting a national campaign of intimidation and violence against Republican voters?
Oh...I forgot...the only people with a real right to vote are liberals.
The Bad Man
Supressing the vote is wrong, no matter who does it.
Got any examples or are you just another dickless wonder?
I wonder how helpful they'll be with the union thugs and ACT's felons who are already conducting a national campaign of intimidation and violence against Republican voters?
Oh...I forgot...the only people with a real right to vote are liberals
???
Oh that's right a note from the unreality folks.
Why start telling the truth now?
Hell keep on making up those lies.
I endorse ... Nader!
DAS -
Did you see my post?
www.mypollingplace.com
is a one-page site where you can type in your street address, and they tell you the polling place.
Anything on Acrobat freezes my computer-anybody got an idea why?
Fourlegsgood, so I take it that you don't live in one of the swing states?
No. Sadly, I'm in Texas. Which, BTW, is going to be a lot closer than georgie porgie thinks.
We got lots of young folks here.
Unfortunately we got lots of fundie fools too.
...who are already conducting a national campaign of intimidation and violence against Republican voters?
Let's have a link, please. Saying it doesn't make it so.
Just reported on MSNBC that there is no indication that the tape is new. I hope the press starts pointing their fingers at Karl Rove if this is true.
...who are already conducting a national campaign of intimidation and violence against Republican voters?
There's a national campaign? Dammit, why am always the last to know?!?
The Bad Man:
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. Gonna cry now baby boy, come on, show me some tears, come on, cry to momma, cry little baby boy, cry.
(Bounces basketball off his head)
Unfortunately we got lots of fundie fools too.
fourlegsgood
Yeah, I'm down two Kerry/Edwards yards signs, but for every one they take I put up two in its place.
HA!
Holden, he's a dickless non-wonder.
What an asswipe. Listen up wingers, we're not afraid of you guys voting, cause we know in the realm of ideas we can beat the shit out of you.
Intimidating and disenfranchising voters is a republican trick.
If you're discouraged, it's probably because your candidate is an incompetent loser.
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. Gonna cry now baby boy, come on, show me some tears, come on, cry to momma, cry little baby boy, cry.
(Bounces basketball off his head)
Okay, that was too funny, krsaz.
Loved "The Great Santini."
Gee, Osama shows up on a video looking fit just 4 days before the election. Dead or alive, eh Bush? Well you were kinda right, he's alive alright, but you didn't get him. Fucknut.
And this just in, no challengers might not be allowed in Ohio voting places. RePub buckled under pressure....
You go dude.
Too bad south austin has turned into winger wonderland.
In my neck of the woods (shoal creek) Kerry signs outnumber bush signs by 20-1. It's a beautiful thing.
Just reported on MSNBC that there is no indication that the tape is new. I hope the press starts pointing their fingers at Karl Rove if this is true.
How does that old song go?
"Pop goes the weasel."
5000-to-1 odds that the Moveon.org 866 number gets freeped big time on Nov 2.
Maybe this bin Laden tape is from the "Hari Seldon" archive?
I loved The Great Santini too. DuVal and Danner ~ nice combo.
A little lift with Google will get you home on this. You all enjoy the whole conceit of being in the reality-based community, but you're living in fantasyland if you think that ACT and the unions are engaged in some dirty shit.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/pol...ter-
drive_x.htm
http://www.opinionjournal.com/di...y/?
id=110005741
Next?
The ACLU has produced state-specific "voter empowerment cards" that are more extensive than the MoveOn cards. http://www.aclu.org/vec
Hey where's woot?
I want someone who can do animation to do a gif of chimpy standing speaking at a podium with flames coming off his pants.
With maybe a boobie popping in the poke him in the head with his beak.
Fark, my college-boy terrorist video fell on its face, and if this Osama one also falls flat I've still got my tape of Ronnie rising up from the dead!
Another funny photo
http://www.bartcop.com/jihad-ally.jpg
I wonder how helpful they'll be with the union thugs and ACT's felons who are already conducting a national campaign of intimidation and violence against Republican voters?
Oh...I forgot...the only people with a real right to vote are liberals.
The Bad Man
I know what you mean. It's gettin' so a 'body can't walk down the street without gettin' roughed up by some Liberal goon. [/eyeroll]
Why don't you go Google "Nathan Sproul" and help yourself to a nice hot mug of shut the fuck up?
How the CIA Created Bin Laden
In 1986, bin Laden brought heavy construction equipment from Saudi Arabia to Afghanistan. Using his extensive knowledge of construction techniques (he has a degree in civil engineering), he built “training camps”, some dug deep into the sides of mountains, and built roads to reach them.
These camps, now dubbed “terrorist universities” by Washington, were built in collaboration with the ISI and the CIA. The Afghan contra fighters, including the tens of thousands of mercenaries recruited and paid for by bin Laden, were armed by the CIA. Pakistan, the US and Britain provided military trainers.
The bad man,
please go take your meds and return to your mom's basement immediately.
We wouldn't want you to hurt yourself.
Why does Bush look so unhappy? [yahoo photo]
Jefe | Email | Homepage | 10.29.04 - 4:00 pm | #
'Cuz soon he'll be on the outside looking in.
I loved The Great Santini too. DuVal and Danner ~ nice combo.
Robert Duval, big time Bush supporter
I just saw the tape--that's not bin Laden!
I know that guy . . . his name is Buddy Jessup, and he's from Conway, Arkansas, where I grew up.
He used to be a professional wrestler on the off-off-off Broadway circuit: National Guard Armories and high school gyms type stuff. Then he hurt his back getting Su-Plexed by The Masked Bandit.
Huh. Wonder where they dug him up?
wonder how helpful they'll be with the union thugs and ACT's felons who are already conducting a national campaign of intimidation and violence against Republican voters?
Here in the reality-based community, we provide links to back up our assertions. Just sayin'
New Bin Laden video on Al Jazeera.
Apparently, he does not like Bush all that much.
"I aint scared you muh'fuckas!
somebody upthread said that they didn't think it was legal to carry the card with them to vote. Voters can carry things like lists of endorsed candidates from the League of Women Voters, etc. I think the voter card is probably legal. What is not legal is anything that can be construed as campaign literature - anything connected to electioneering.
Another funny photo
Hold up. That guy is wearing glasses under that scarf...and they look suspiciously like Karl Rove's...
Anything on Acrobat freezes my computer-anybody got an idea why?
Sue, do you have the latest version of the pdf viewer? Have you upgraded your operating system lately?
We ran into a problem when we had an old version of acrobat with a new OS. It still worked OK, however, if we first opened the Acrobat program before opening the pdf file. Finally upgraded the acrobat version, and that trick's not necessary anymore.
Good luck.
I don’t know why they bother to put on Di Rita, wouldn’t Pinocchio have more creds.
.........
Just asking.
.........
CAIRO, Egypt - The Arab television station Al-Jazeera aired a video of Osama bin Laden (news - web sites) on Friday directly admitting for the first time that he carried out the Sept. 11 attacks and promising to outline "the best way to avoid another Manhattan."
It was the first footage of the al-Qaida leader to surface in more than a year. The video showed bin Laden in traditional white robes, a turban and a cloak reading from papers and standing in front of a plain, brown cloth background.
"We decided to destroy towers in America," bin Laden said.
He said the attack was carried out because "we are a free people ... and we want to regain the freedom of our nation."
He also accused President Bush of "misleading" the American people threer years since the 2001 suicide airline hijackings that hit the World Trade Center towers and the Pentagon.
Big deal....
" A federal appeals court put an end to a courtroom dispute in Ohio on Friday over Republican challenges to voter registrations. "
NPR
It sounds like ALL the challenges by the GOP have been tossed. Yipee!
Too bad south austin has turned into winger wonderland.
In my neck of the woods (shoal creek) Kerry signs outnumber bush signs by 20-1. It's a beautiful thing.
fourlegsgood 10.29.04 - 4:15 pm | #
Maybe out in Oak Hill, but not in my little (red) neck of the woods. On my commute down S. 1st Kerry signs outnumber Bush signs 5 to 1. And that is South of Ben White before the hipper-then-thou 78704 area.
You know, fourlegsgood...its all kinds of fun to have you little ad hominem juvenalia but please...a just a fraction of intellectual honesty here: your side is in bed with thugs and criminals who would have been perfectly at home in Munich...those were socialists too, you miserable fuckwit. 
Kate,
Thank you. I guess I must have typed in the name wrong into my web browser or something.
It seems my polling place is exactly where I thought it would be based on past elections.
OT: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6356265/
"Army staffer: Halliburton case 'worst abuse'"
What an eejit, the bin Laden tape, who the hooey is this duffer.
............
Buzz off, we are gonna bounce your buddy Bush one way or another, OK, and then we are coming for you and your cahoots.
.............
John Kerry next Prezident.
.............
Hey badman I read the article.
Is says NOTHING about any dirty tricks only that ACT employed some FORMER felons.
You know like Bush employs felons (poindexter).
From the article:
Among the ACT employees in Ohio was a woman convicted of sexual contact with a minor. She completed her parole 12 years ago.
Do you understand that these people have paid their debt to society?
Jeez even Mary Kay Letournau deserves a secong chance.
So how is anything in the article alluding to dirty tricks?
Did Rush tell you?
A little lift with Google will get you home on this. You all enjoy the whole conceit of being in the reality-based community, but you're living in fantasyland if you think that ACT and the unions are engaged in some dirty shit.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/pol...ter-
drive_x.htm
http://www.opinionjournal.com/di...y/?
id=110005741
Next?
The Bad Man
From Bad Man's [sic] first link:
America Coming Together, contending that convicted criminals deserve a second chance in society, employs felons as voter canvassers in major metropolitan areas in Missouri, Florida, Ohio and perhaps in other states among the 17 it is targeting in its drive. Some of the felons lived in halfway houses, and at least four returned to prison.
[snip]
Doug Lewis, executive director of the Election Center, which represents election officials, said he is unaware of any laws against felons registering other people to vote.
Nothing wrong there, in fact it's quite an uplifting story. Good for ACT.
His second link is to a John Fund opinion column in the Wall Street Journal. Fund, who has not pretence to being non-partisan, is worried that the folks the big bad AFL-CIO is sending to monitor the polls in Florida might be violent.
He has no proof, mind you, but he's shitting-his-pants scared, sorta like BM here.
Too bad:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/
news...ampaign_song_dc
I always thought it was funny the rally organizers thought Bush was "still the one I want to talk to in bed..."
"You know, fourlegsgood...its all kinds of fun to have you little ad hominem juvenalia but please...a just a fraction of intellectual honesty here: your side is in bed with thugs and criminals who would have been perfectly at home in Munich...those were socialists too, you miserable fuckwit."
Dude, there's free mental health care available in your community.
Seriously.
Oh, wait--Bush cut that, too.
Can't help ya.
Still no link to any site backing up these claims. Who needs evidence when you live in a bubble, with Bubble Boy for a candidate?
your side is in bed with thugs and criminals who would have been perfectly at home in Munich...those were socialists too
Again, here in the reality-based community, we post links to back up our assertions. You appear to be a slow learner.
just a fraction of intellectual honesty here: your side is in bed with thugs and criminals who would have been perfectly at home in Munich
strike two!!!
And cameras. No cameras in polling places.
None. It's illegal. No photo cell phones, either. Just don't.
My poopy smells nice and I like to smell my poopy and play with my poopy.
Are ya'll hearing this on CNN about what OBL said on the tape?
"We expected this to only last about twenty minutes and did not intend to bring down the towers. Bush sat there listening to a little girl tell a story about a goat".
Repug fear and desperation, my favorite evening meal.
Headline:
"Bush, Bin Laden play 9/11 card"
Too bad, Bushboy, Osama didn't endorse Kerry, he only called you a dumbfuck.
Hey Bush, where's Osama?
OBL, on his new video tape, ridicules Bush for reading a children's story (My Pet Goat)after the planes crashed into the towers. States our security is not in Bush or Kerry;'s hands, it's in our hands.
CNN:
Bin Laden video: Americans' security does not depend on the president they elect, but on U.S. policy. "Your security is not in the hands of Kerry or Bush or al Qaeda." Details soon
you're living in fantasyland if you think that ACT and the unions are engaged in some dirty shit.
Thank you for proving our point. We don't think that ACT and "the unions" are "engaged in some dirty shit." Thus, according to you, we are not living in fantasyland.
Smarter trolls, please?
You know, fourlegsgood...its all kinds of fundie to have you little ad hominemenim gentalia but please...a just a fraction of a just a anti-intellectual hornesty here: you're snide is in bed with my mother and sister who would have been perfectly at home in Crawford...those were socialites too, you miserable fatherfigure.
Bin Laden video: Americans' security does not depend on the president they elect, but on U.S. policy. "Your security is not in the hands of Kerry or Bush or al Qaeda." Details soon
Oh, great. OBL is another undecided voter.
They despise dissent. [another yahoo photo]
The Bad Man, sicko. Your USA article doesn't prove what you assert, and the AFL-CIO website says no such thing. Opinion by John Fund. Heh.
You poor slob. You're a sick little man.
OT(or not OT):
CBS is broadcasting NEW Bin Laden tape. As in, RIGHT NOW...
I think O Reilly just wanted us to think he actually has a sex life.
...........
Tena, the refrence to the voting card was a refrence to a comment that someones voting card is a Louisville Slugger.
Don't want to take a baseball bat to a polling place.
wtfwjd? --
Do you have a link to that headline? Would love to see it.
Fear? Hardly.
I'm more amused by the fact that you've outsourced your party to the unions, ACT and the lot. I think what we're really seeing is the bluster of a bunch of punk-ass weasels on the left who will continue to talk smack until Tuesday night, at which point you'll realize that Soros, Moveon, ACT et al aren't in the mainstream.
Then you'll all start jerking off to dreams of Michael Moore running for President in 2008...
"its all kinds of fun to have you little ad hominem juvenalia"
Hey, speaking of ad hominem juvenalia, do you suppose The Bad Man got his screen name from 'Behind Blue Eyes' as "sung" by limp bizkit?
Hey, he's right, this is all kinds of fun!
"We expected this to only last about twenty minutes and did not intend to bring down the towers. Bush sat there listening to a little girl tell a story about a goat".
Don't shit me, man.
Jefe,
And look -- no crying child to garner sympathy...
What fuckwits. They really are hellbent on destroying freedom of speech.
Oh, great. OBL is another undecided voter
That ought to convince some American ones to make up their minds toot sweet!
Holy shit, maybe the Osama tape isn't a Rove plant. Maybe he'll smack the media bitches six ways from next Sunday, to a big audience just like Jon Stewart has always wanted to!
"The Bad Man, sicko. Your USA article doesn't prove what you assert, and the AFL-CIO website says no such thing. Opinion by John Fund. Heh."
Isn't John Fund that pervert who was screwing both a mother AND her daughter?
What are you doing quoting perverts in here, Bad Man? You are a Bad Man.
Is this true? Did OBL ridicule Bush for reading a childrens book? I know he said that our security is not in the hands of Bush or Kerry?
If he made fun of Bush then it's, Kerry in a landslide!
"Oh, great. OBL is another undecided voter. LMAF!
By the way, this tape is TOTALLY different than the frat-boy tape that ABC aired.
Is that the story explaining R voters aren't going to show up on Tuesday?
I thought it was because their candidate was a collosal failure who likes to hide behind the infantry when things go wrong in his ill-conceived war.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/
nation/president/2004-06-23-felon-voter-
drive_x.htm
Well, this isn't so much intimidation as its a story about ACT using ex-cons in voter regisration drives. Basically, it's giving ex-cons a job, even if they themselves can't vote, so I don't see the problem. Granted, a few of the ex-cons in question are back in the slammer, but I'd think that's more a failing of the prison system than any "voter intimidation". A bit hinky, sure, but what do you got against someone just out of the slammer getting a job? If it's illegal, than ACT should be busted. If not, what's the worry?
http://www.opinionjournal.com/diary/?id=110005741
Now this...didn't work. Got nothing, but apparently, it's a John Fund piece from The Wall Street Journal, hardly an impartial source or an impartial writer. Plus, he's a woman-beating scumbag, but that's neither here nor there. I looked around and found something by Fund here, but I don't see anything about "voter intimidation. Just that both sides are working like gangbusters to GOTV and make sure there's no shennanigans from the other side.
Which they should. What else ya got?
Yum! GIVE ME MORE, DAMMIT!!
CBS is broadcasting NEW Bin Laden tape. As in, RIGHT NOW...
Waitaminnit!! What about authentication?!? What about secret hand signals!!!
And do the they say that the video may apparantly show someone who appears to resemble bin Laden?!?
Holden - That's as close to verbatim I can get to what the translator was saying on CNN.
You know like Bush employs felons (poindexter).
surfdork 10.29.04 - 4:25 pm | #
I thought Elliot Abrams was the felon. Is there more then one?
but you're living in fantasyland if you think that ACT and the unions are engaged in some dirty shit.
Well, I am not an advocate of violent behavior, but you know what? Trying to take away people's overtime pay (you know, the stuff that buys birthday presents, gets the roof fixed, maybe allows you to go on vacation once in a while) tends to piss people off. Talk about "dirty shit".
"Hey Bill, guess what? You're a manager now."
"Does that mean I get more money?"
"Hell no! It means you get to work 60 hours a week and get paid for 40. Congratulations on your promotion!"
"Whuhh?"
"We expected this to only last about twenty minutes and did not intend to bring down the towers. Bush sat there listening to a little girl tell a story about a goat".
This is a joke, right? Was this on the OBL outtakes reel?
Did OBL ridicule Bush for reading a childrens book?
Yep....
I'm more amused by the fact that you've outsourced your party to the unions, ACT and the lot.
I'm more amused that the Bush administration is filled with criminals pardoned by former republican presidents, and this loser is getting ready for January pardon sweeps before he leaves office.
"I thought Elliot Abrams was the felon. Is there more then one?"
Being a felon is the #1 pre-req for working in the Bush team.
The Bad Man:
Pot meet kettle, kettle meet pot.
Here's how Drudge is trying to spin the story:
Osama bin Laden, in Al-Jazeera video broadcast, campaigns against Bush...
U.S. administration resembles 'corrupt' Arab governments...
This is GREAT. MoveOn is always ahead of the game, and hopefully this will help a lot of people out. I tried to go to mypollingplace.com, though, and it wouldn't work. I, personally, know where I need to vote... I was just checking it out.
http://www.vinylpop.com/alqaqaa.html
the unions
liberal
Uhhh... the Bad Man - you know those are good words don't you?
Innocent until proven guilty - thank your Liberal fellow citizens.
The weekend - another fine idea brought to you by organized labor.
Did OBL ridicule Bush for reading a childrens book?
Yep....
This is the most fucking surreal week fo my life.
Did OBL ridicule Bush for reading a childrens book?
Yep....
This is the most fucking surreal week fo my life.
Goddamn. Even Bin Laden is asking why Bush sat there for 7 minutes reading "My Pet Goat." The United States is officially the laughing-stock of the world. Kerry can't be elected soon enough.
I don't care if Robert Duval is a Republican ~ Santini was an excellent flick. Sometimes, art transcends politics.
Did OBL ridicule Bush for reading a childrens book?
Good grief. And they released this tape, why?
Oops. Sorry.
GOOD NEWS!!!!!!!!!!...maybe...
...it's surprising to say the least that, about an hour ago, [Ohio Secretary of State Ken Blackwell] issued a statement calling for the state attorney general to bar "all challengers of all parties ... from polling places throughout the state."
Sorry Shocke, wrong reference. The something a little more literary.
October Surprise: Liberals say OBL makes more sense than the president!
To quote Margaret Cho from Sex & The City: "Fuck Me Hard!
Oh, great. OBL is another undecided voter.
watertiger | Email | Homepage | 10.29.04 - 4:29 pm | #
Hilarious.
watertiger - That's what the translator said. CNN is translating a minute or so at a time. Think it is a 18 minute tape. Definitely mocked Bush about "listening to a little girl tell a story about a goat" implying that OBL expected the US military to react much more swiftly. Also never expected the planes to be able to bring down the towers.
Is that the best you can do bad man?
You're dealing with pros here and you should not come unarmed to a battle of wits.
At least be convincing when you pull stuff out of your ass.
Then you'll all start jerking off to dreams of Michael Moore running for President in 2008...
Nah, I usually jerk off to dreams of being the point man in a Bukkake film with Katherine Harris as the center of attention.
But I must admit I'm learning some serious kink form you wingnuts.
Who would have known?
Pass the falafel.
Fear? Hard-on!
I'm more amused by the a just a fact that you've outscorched my panties to the onions, ACT like I'm an idiot a lot. I think what we're really a just a seeing is the blister of a bunch of hamster/weasels left up my ass who will continue to smoke smack until Tuesday night, at which point I'll realize that the Sore Nose, Moron, preznit aren't in the White House no more.
Then I'll start jerking off to dreams of Mandi Moore or Ashlee Simpson while she's a just a doin' her hoedown...
Farkin nice cardigan that Osama's wearing! And I love the way he waggles his finger! This is priceless!
(btw I can make trivial fun of Bin Laden just as much as I do of Bush; Bush killed 33 Iraqis for every American Bin Laden killed.)
The United States is officially the laughing-stock of the world.
No, but Bush is.
Shorter Bad Boy:
Zeig... HEIL!!!!
Zeig... HEIL!!!!
Zeig... HEIL!!!!
"Why don't you go Google "Nathan Sproul" and help yourself to a nice hot mug of shut the fuck up?" -joycamp
http://kernel.dk/
Did OBL ridicule Bush for reading a childrens book?
Good grief. And they released this tape, why?
pie
To try and blame/smear Michael Moore for letting OBL know that the Chimp was "reading a children's book about a goat".....vis Farhenheit 9/11?
Aljazeera Television has aired a video from Usama bin Ladin.
Bin Ladin's latest message was for the American people.
This latest tape has been subtitled in English and will be available on http://english.aljazeera.net soon.
We all have to start playing up the OBL is laughing at Bush angle. Because the echo chamber is going to start spinning it as a campaign against Bush.
Holden - That's as close to verbatim I can get to what the translator was saying on CNN.
Anonymous
Uh, and this helps Bush - how?
pie,
Best I can figure is that they hoped it would scare the chickens in the henhouse - remember, as per the wolves video, that's what the Bush people think we are - into voting for The Boy Emperor. The Big, Bad Brown Man Osama bin Laden - who Bush doesn't think about much, really - is still out there! He might still get you! He might still take away our freedoms, destroy our civilization and stare luridly at our women! Only BUSH can save us and catch him.
Never mind he hasn't done shit about finding the sonofabitch since Tora Bora. Remember, Bush is the Mulligan President. He thinks he deserves a "do over".
OT
BBC reporting that USA warplanes have started bombing in Iraq.
Looks like hell is about to break out.
The fact that OBL is still at large is reason enough to not elect Bush. Bush had 3 years to catch that fucker Bin Laden and he didn't do it. Worst President ever.
OT, speaking of Katherine Bukkake Harris, here's a site of some pretty funny footage of Harris trying to get into Sen. Rick Rezni's pants. Can't get it to work on my computer here in the office, but from what my brother tells me, it's worth the effort.
Did anybody tell George that Osama is not in Falluja or Ramadi?
but please...a just a fraction of intellectual honesty here:
This coming from a numbnutz who then proceeds to claim;
those were socialists too, you miserable fuckwit.
Gosh, that really taught us not to use ad hominems! Do we really need to say anything further? I guess that we do
And just because you are too stupid to even live, let alone read correctly, "The Bad Man", I'll simplify those 2 links for you;
1.) It was Adolf Hitler at that most famous of pre war Munich antics
2.) And the official program of Mr Hitler's stated; ""the NSDAP stands on the platform of private ownership". Now tell us again Mr Intellectual Giant, what the core tennet of Communism/Socialism is, hmmm?
Oh, and "The Bad Man" too eh? A reference to being one of our usual trolls perhaps? Or just damn near identical mental midgetry to the usual political pigmyies we get here? Ahh fuck it... why even bother wondering? Let's just apply the very argument you thought you were so clever making (with a latin, ohhhh latin term too!) and then ignoring completely yourself, back at yourself shall we?
Thus, it doesn't matter who you are. You have just made a FUCKING STUPID argument; Ergo...
Oops - I'm just trying to be helpful and sometimes I trip all over my idjit-ness in the process.
Thanks
The fact that OBL is still at large is reason enough to not elect Bush. Bush had 3 years to catch that fucker Bin Laden and he didn't do it. Worst President ever.
Unrepentant Fenian | Email | Homepage | 10.29.04 - 4:40 pm | #
Personally, I wouldn't have minded if it took three years to snag bin Laden if Bush would've put a modicum of effort into it. He didn't, and the guy's making more videos than Brittany Spears.
"We will keep the terrorists on the run" - GWB
News for Bush, Osama looked tanned and rested, not "on the run."
Gimme some candy!!
OT
BBC reporting that USA warplanes have started bombing in Iraq.
Looks like hell is about to break out.
sally
If true, then I called it this morning.
f**k. Linky no work.
Try this (it's short):
http://www.thecanoodle.com/
More on OBL tape from CNN person that heard translation:
Attack went much better than planned. Told Atta they only had twenty minutes. Because President was more interested in listening to a child story about a goat, we had more time to complete the attack.
"Sorry Shocke, wrong reference. The something a little more literary."
My Pet Goat?
He didn't, and the guy's making more videos than Brittany Spears.
Hilarious.
The bin Laden tape...
Here is the big story in my mind...
bin Laden looks rested, healthy, well fed, in a studio with a lectern, and not bottled in some cave in the Mountains of Afghanistan. He's not 'on the run', 'bottled up' or 'possibly dead'. All this time, the implicit message from Bush is that bin Laden no longer matters, Saddam does. I think the essential message to America is... Bush can't touch this.
No problem Tena.
Watertiger I'd love to see Bushco star in a Tamakeri video.
Tamakeri, the fetish where peole enjoy getting kicked in the nads!
BBC reporting that USA warplanes have started bombing in Iraq.
(in James T. Kirk "about to pass out" voice): "Must . . . distract . . . voters . . . from . . . campaign . . . disasters. . . . "
Told Atta they only had twenty minutes. Because President was more interested in listening to a child story about a goat, we had more time to complete the attack.
Yowsa!! Oh, that's gonna leave a mark.
BBC reporting that USA warplanes have started bombing in Iraq.
Is this something somehow different than the daily heavy attacks in Fallujah that are supposedly the prelude to a major ground offensive there?
bbc coverage of bin laden tape, here.
headline is "Bin Laden threatens new attacks", but it looks to me like that's overstating the case. All he says is that the original reasons have not been addressed.
wtfwjd? --
Do you have a link to that headline? Would love to see it.
Kate, sorry -- that was my headline, as in what I would like to see splashed across page one tomorrow.
Wow, OBL doesn't play US politics very well I think. He's too forthright.
Tamakeri, the fetish where peole enjoy getting kicked in the nads!
Whoa. Remind me to enunciate next time I'm ordering sushi!
It is true the the Nazis actively courted various undecideds who might've been on the fence with regard to socialist ideologies. It is true that they put the word "socialist" in their meaningless anagram (they also included "democratic"). And it is also true that they were cynical deliberate liars who were always talking about wanting peace, etc. Let's look at actions: fuckers were always on the side of capital, were literally strikebreakers (the basis of their proselityzation-by-beating the fuck out of people), they never moved against capital or did any kind of socialist thing, they were backed from the beginning by such well-known Leninist fellow travellers as Fritz Krupp, the good comrades at IG Farben, etc, and the original and ostensible purpose of what later proved to be the Holocaust was slave labor for heavy industry. Does any of that sound like socialism as it was accomplished in Sweden, Israel, England, France, postwar Germany, Japan or the Netherlands?
(kei as lois from DTWOF, yuri as overweight antisocial Korean bunny mashimaro)
Reuters on Falluja bombing
It is true that they put the word "socialist" in their meaningless anagram (they also included "democratic").
Er, no, they didn't.
NSDAP = (translated) National Socialist German Workers Party
Of course, its one of those typical meaningless totalitarian names like "Democratic People's Republic of Korea".
Wow, OBL doesn't play US politics very well I think. He's too forthright.
yup. sounds like Prince Walid, doesn't he?
"you know, maybe you people should try not being such asshats for a while. People would probably like you better."
This is the most fucking surreal week of my life, too, so far. Yesterday a tape purporting to be of terrorists mentioned Bill Maher. Today Osama is talking about Bush in the classroom. Peter Jennings showed the still of Bush flipping the country off.
I never expected the week to be this good or this weird.
I never expected the week to be this good or this weird.
Tena | Email | Homepage | 10.29.04 - 4:59 pm | #
Isn't it great? Never gets weird enough for me.
But I have to say that of all the bizarre stories this week, the one that is really standing out for me is the one of the Bush rally where everyone had to stand up, raise their arms and take the Bush Oath.
What country am I living in again?
The Bad Man | Email | Homepage | 10.29.04 - 4:31 pm | #
Projection much?
We're wrong about that, but we are certain we'd heard them all the time talking about being "democratic" and "defending democracy" (of course because they were always framing themselves as the enemy of Bolshevism). But that's what you get when you watch Triumph of the Will stoned: fifty million ballerinas with no sense of humor pacing in carefully traced straight lines. And the terrible, terrible goats neighing everywhere.
(kei as lois from DTWOF, yuri as overweight antisocial Korean bunny mashimaro)
Backslider - well, yeah, except for the bad parts it has been great. I mean - the Bush Oath? It starts "I believe in freedom and liberty..." except that by virtue of having to take an oath to be there - oh, never mind.
It all starts with the ruthless supression of thought not approved by the State, doesn't it, boys? My initial point was that ACT and the unions are playing dirty. You can't face that fact...you excuse it, even revel in it.
Hitler and his posse's thuggery and violence in Munich ARE a legitimate point of comparison, whether the Pustch failed or not. It LED somewhere very very bad. No one could argue that Nazi germany was affected by democratic capitalism of the Western strain.
And btw the core tenent of communism/socialism (national and otherwise) doesn't interest me in the slightest. It's a failed, dying ideology. (and please, spare me the dorm room it's-never-realllly-been-tried argument and nattering about tiny little bijoux Scandanavian microstates and their quality of life). If it's not market-based, democratic capitalism, it leads down the swift road to hell.
Wow...the examples of just how well your socialist wonderlands work out haved filled up concentration camps and mass graves in Germany, the USSR, Cambodia, China, North Korea, Cuba and too many other places.
I suppose I should report to the Soros-funded reeducation camp at once to have my bourgeoise sensibilities tortured out of me.
kei & yuri,
But that's what you get when you watch Triumph of the Will stoned:
I would pay good money to watch Triumph Of The Will with you two while stoned. Y'all don't even have to light up if'n you don't want to.
Tena,
Do you have a link to that? But otherwise, I agree...my brother can't figure out why I'm into politics, since it makes me stressed out from time to time (though much worse than he thinks). I tell him you gotta wade through a lot of shit to get the occasional jewel like Jessie Helms' granddaughter or the Bush Oath. It's just so fuckin' bizare.
And I gotta admit to having a warped sense of humor. It's like ol' Henry Louis said when asked why he lived in America if he found so much at fault with it. "Why does a man go to the zoo?" he replied. We live in a country and a culture run by a group of people with all the tact, intelligence and forsight of the Three Stooges on ketamine.
In Wisconsin, where I vote, we have same day registration at the polls. I recently moved and will be registering at the polls when I go to vote.
If ANYONE challenges me, my only response will be to demand that the poll workers call the police and have that individual arrested for interfering with a Federal Election.
If it's not market-based, democratic capitalism, it leads down the swift road to hell.
I dunno. Theocracies and monarchies did pretty well for themselves for a while. Not that one would want to live under either or that either were exactly groovy-cool ideas, but they nevertheless were the go-to governmental systems for a long damn time.
As for ACT, show me where they've broken laws. I read the story. If they're breaking laws, why aren't they being prosecuted? Another liberal conspiracy, perhaps?
No one could argue that Nazi germany was affected by democratic capitalism of the Western strain.
No, no, it's just historical fact that it was born of it and driven by it, that's all. But "affected"? No.
(kei as lois from DTWOF, yuri as overweight antisocial Korean bunny mashimaro)
If it's not market-based, democratic capitalism, it leads down the swift road to hell.
So of course you're aware that Swedish Christian Socialism actually protected their bad Viking asses from the Depression until after it got to an inevitable point from there being nobody else to trade with?
Of course you're aware that Adam Smith would be the first person to smack you for dissing socialism--a universal in the advanced industrial world--as a nonexistant utopia (umm, nonexistant? What about the countries we mentioned?! Doesn't Japan exist?!) while at trhe same time yarbling about some nonexistant free market freidmanland that cannot exist (because it turns out if you leave the wolves in charge of the sheep, the sheep do not work harder and flourish, and in fact this is what has happened in every single attempt at this crap--followed closely by a begged-for rescue by big government, which exists largely to bail out rethugs and their mistakes).
(kei as lois from DTWOF, yuri as overweight antisocial Korean bunny mashimaro)
"Oh, great. OBL is another undecided voter."
-watertiger
Hilarious! bravo.
How sad that we have to do this kind of thing.
Seriously.
And btw the core tenent of communism/socialism (national and otherwise) doesn't interest me in the slightest.
*guffaw*
No, I gathered that...
Shall I repeat the quote from Hitler's own manifesto for you again? Here it is;
"the NSDAP stands on the platform of private ownership"
Now do I have to explain that NO Government with that as it's platform can ever, ever be described as Communist? Communal ownership being, of course, where the very definition of Communism comes from.
I suppose I should report to the Soros-funded reeducation camp at once to have my bourgeoise sensibilities tortured out of me.
An education of ANY sort would obviously be an improvement for you. You certainly couldn't get much stupider.
And George Soros survived the Holocaust himself... perhaps as part of your education, you can ask him who else ended up in the Death Camps, apart from the Jews. I'll give you a clue... begins with a "C" or an "S". Oh, and George Soros is the billionaire capitalist, just in case you were imagining him as someone else, like Marinus van der Lubbe or something...
*laughs his ass off at you*
You really are the most ignorant fucker ever, aren't you AM? "The Bad Man", oh so true, so very true... but the funniest thing is that you don't realise just how bad you actually are... in a runny, diseased-mind sort of way, natch.
TC MITS, you could also remind them that falsely swearing to another's ineligibility to vote is a felony in Wisconsin. And they will have to swear to it, before you have to swear you're eligible. And then take their name & address and demand identification and proof that they are an elector. Only "electors" can challenge another elector. Make him prove he's not a felon out on parole.
(Technically you shouldn't say he "survived the Holocaust" because what that means is he has numbers on his arm, he went to a camp, etc: Soros actually escaped the Holocaust as a child by hiding with a "safe" family his father placed him with. Not that that was any fun or anything, but be careful with wording around such things: would you call FDR or even Wallenberg a Holocaust survivor per se?)
America's Nemesis:
Perhaps you'd like to defend Stalin? Mao? Pol Pot? You wouldn't know evil if it stared you in the face.
I saw a mass grave in Cambodia about 25 years ago. About 400 bodies, which was nothing compared to some of the places... all put there by the kind of people you so lovingly embrace. Thugs. Enforcers. All purging the unbelievers for the cause. Purges to weed out the ideologically weak.
Enjoy your evening. I will.
Pol Pot was a direct product of American insanity-inducing bombings and was aided and abetted by Thatcher and Reagan and was only stopped at long last by...wait for it...wait for it...VIET
FUCKING
NAM
this is too easy
(still dressed as lois & mashimaro)
(still dressed as lois & mashimaro)
Hey, it's comments page cosplay. Far out.
Perhaps you'd like to defend Stalin? Mao? Pol Pot? You wouldn't know evil if it stared you in the face.
That's funny... I'm the one who seemed to know the exact nature of the particular evil of Nazi Germany. You tried to claim that it was a Communist Government.
Marinus van der Lubbe by the way, was the Dutch Communist who was found stunned (beaten senseless) in the Reichstag, shortly after the Nazi's set fire to it; but who provided the excuse for the purges of Communists and Society from both politics and society. Lubbe himself, needless to say, was tried and executed in record time too.
You'd know that, if you knew anything about History. It's really rather a famous event.
I saw a mass grave in Cambodia about 25 years ago
Of course you did. Except... have a guess what this year is the 25th Anniversary of?. If you were in Cambodia 25 years ago, "The Bad Man", it was as part of the NVA killing Cambodians... but I thought you hated Communism?
Come on, be honest for once. I've got you pegged as America's Memory again; But even if you aren't him, you are displaying exactly the same level of astounding ignorance and mental misfunction as him. Did you really think people here would believe what are obviously lies? In my case, I happen to know Cambodia's history extremely well; indeed it was the book "Sideshow" which really got me into politics in the first place... As soon as you said "25 years ago" I knew you were lying, simply because of the dates. I know what they are, you see. You can't lie to me about what I know to be History The same goes for supposedly knowing Evil... You admit that you don't even care what Communism is, yet you think you can tell people here, here of all places, where they actually do have an interest in left wing politics, what the truth of Communism is?
What is it...? Is it a form of mental illness you have, that makes you so unable to be even slightly logical? Is it a form of narcissitic self abuse to keep coming back here, and being made a fool of again and again and again? Is it just sheer partisan insanity that makes you think you can redefine words like Communism into Nazism at will? That makes you think that just because you say so, I'll suddenly realise I've been a Totalitarian all along (and THATS the word which connects Stalin and Hitler: You ignorant, ignorant fool)?
Why? WHY? Come on, for the love of god, just tell us what it is you think you are achieving here with the lies, the trolling, the obvious hypocrisy, the childishness, and the endless, endless idiocy you display? What does it ever achieve? You are not "The Bad Man"... you are a SICK man. And you are getting worse.
Not that that was any fun or anything, but be careful with wording around such things: would you call FDR or even Wallenberg a Holocaust survivor per se?
Watch this "The Bad Man"; this is how sensible adults having logical arguments act. I shall now respond to someone with a genuine point in a genuine way...
Well, Anonymous; I would class the Holocaust as not just the Death Camps themselves, but the apparatus which supported it... The patrols that sought the victims, the railways that transported them, the society that looked the other way whilst 12 million people were slaughtered in their midst...
Whilst it's a very fine line to draw, I'd say that anyone who lived in Nazi occupied Europe, who was of an identity likely to earn a trip to the Death Camps purely based upon Nazi ideology (Jews, Slavs, Communists, Homosexuals, Blacks, the Disabled...), and who was actively hunted for/actively hidden or hid themselves during that time period has a right to call themselves a survivor... Or at the very least, a potential victim of the Holocaust. That some of them were more fortunate than others is axiomatic. It's only in the eyes of idiots like the trolls here who believe that those who survive are somehow diminished from doing so...
You see, "Soros survived the Holocaust" is a quote; it's part of recent wingnut rhetoric attempting to slander him; I am sure someone else will be able to find you the relevant link where it came from... And if "The Bad Man" is who I suspect he is again, it's a line he himself has used here, which is why I deliberatly reminded him of it. Amusing, isn't it, to see people who minimise the Holocaust (at least for people they do not like) fail to spot when they are having their own arguments turned back against them?
"Potential victim" is not "victim" if the words mean anything. It's a horrible place to be, but the whole thing is, it can be worse. Everyone "suffered", Nazi stormtroopers who lost their wives and kids to liberating Russians and revenge-seeking justice squads "suffered". Let's not play with these criteria. If you went to a camp, you are in a different category from anyone else, period. The arrests, the humiliations under the Nuremburg laws, the trains were not the Holocaust, even the Ghetto by itself was not the Holocaust. The Holocaust was the showers and the starvation-experimentation-slave labor camps around them, period, end of story. Just we should not doubt the horror of making someone wear an identfying, hatred-enabling marker as a designated hate object, so we should also not doubt that the ultimate end of that system was worse and not the same but worse than its albeit nightmarish earlier period.
Actually, what Nemesis is kind of half-remembering is a slimy thing a Moonie bastard said on a Faux show, "Soros is a Jew who figured a way out of the Holocaust." To repeat what has been said, Soros was a kid and was saved by his father, an adult, hiding him with other adults, so his awareness and memory of the period is kind of arguable; nevertheless, what the Moonie was implying was that he had some kind of obligation to die and snuck out dishonestly.
Thanks for posting the card link Atrios!!!
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