I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
McCain is now a proven asshat.
Game. Set. Match.
They all love bin Laden, these republicans.
No, see, being reminded how dangerous the world is shows how much we should stay the course and not switch horses mid-Apocalypse, and appreciate resolute, brave, non-flip-flopping-esque leadership and stuff. Remember, another 9/11 could happen if we don't change policies, and the only way to change policies is to keep the same Preznit. Because Kerry would just be more of the same, whilst Bush promises to change the tone in Washington.
"Nuclear menace gives Republicans wargasms."
Story at 11.
Very helpful to the President? I keep thinking of that scene from Blazing Saddles, only with Bush holding the gun to his own head shouting "don't move or the President gets it"...
90%+ people use the security leaking, bugged up, crashing, ugly, MS Windows. Go figure.
The president himself should come out and tell us how much he likes it that OBL has created another home movie.
Apparently, from atrios' constant posts all day today about this theme, the media is playing their assigned and expected role with with this Bin Laden tape by giving great voice to GOP spin and talking points.
On the other hand, the Kerry camp (or their minions) could stop all this immediately by trying to spin it around against Bush:
1. This latest tape just confirms that Bush attacked the wrong enemy. Instead of going after Osama, he took a detour and went after Saddam. Thus, Osama is still alive and looks as rested and as unrepentant as ever.
2. This Administration has failed in its stated mission to avenge the deaths of those killed on 9-11 and to make our country safer. Osama is still alive and looks as rested and as unrepentent as ever.
3. If the failure regarding the capture of Osama, coupled with the failure to secure the looted 380 tons of explosives shoudl come together--that is, if Osama's network should somehow get a hold of them--we are inasmuch danger as ever.
4. Bush's failures have not mades us safer, but have jeapardized and continue to jeapardize our security.
It's clear to me that this is the "winning" strategy. But why won't the Kerry people do it?
McCain is just a wanker.
Where the fuck is his self respect?
I think they're all just fucking whistling past the graveyard.
"We are glad that Osama bin Laden is still alive to support the re-election of President Bush."
I keep thinking of that scene from Blazing Saddles, only with Bush holding the gun to his own head shouting "don't move or the President gets it"...
Bush supporters certainly are the illiterate, inbred and very, very scared townsfolk.
Weird bastards, republicans.
Just like Clinton celebrated Monica's blue dress with a barrage of missiles on tylenol factories?
kerry should come out and slam that quote from the GOP aide who said that the bin Laden tape is a gift. he should play it up big time.
Osama alive and we have Marines dying in Falluja.....what the fuck??!!!??
agitpropre
"Very helpful to the President? I keep thinking of that scene from Blazing Saddles, only with Bush holding the gun to his own head shouting "don't move or the President gets it"..."
Well at least I wasn't drinking something carbonated.
The president himself should come out and tell us how much he likes it that OBL has created another home movie.
There's a hilarious outtake sequence at the end...Osama dropping his glasses in his hummus, him muffing the "we will rain death upon the Zionists and the Crusaders, God willing" line...
W'o4?
WTF?
I'd like to see Kerry's campaign run that video clip of Bush standing in a fucking tuxedo at some event saying "he's not all that concerned" about OBL.
Bush supporters certainly are the illiterate, inbred and very, very scared townsfolk.
Old Hat | Email | Homepage | 10.30.04 - 6:42 pm | #
I don't think I would have said this last week, but after watching Chris Mathews and the rest of the cable news networks spin for Bush last night, I'd have to say they're also the Ivy League educated media living in New York and DC.
I think most of them won't admit they like Bush because it's not really cool for them to do it, but it comes out when you get stuff like this Bin Laden tape. Bin Laden. Ahhh. Wet Pants. Save us Daddy Bush. They're really subject to the same authoritarian appeal that those dumb hicks in Utah and those dirt poor Muslims in the Middle East.
I really hate these bastards.
Just like Rudy blaming the troops...GOP loves OBL....it won't make any diff to the press....just ignore it and it will go away and we can collect our paychecks and vacation this Dec. without guilt
No, see, being reminded how dangerous the world is shows how much we should stay the course and not switch horses mid-Apocalypse, and appreciate resolute, brave, non-flip-flopping-esque leadership and stuff. Remember, another 9/11 could happen if we don't change policies, and the only way to change policies is to keep the same Preznit. Because Kerry would just be more of the same, whilst Bush promises to change the tone in Washington.
It's spin from the Bush surrogates, pure and simple. They are scared shitless over what this tape means -- a reminder that OBL still alive, etc. -- and they can't be silent about it, so this is the spin. Meanwhile, Bush keeps quiet about it. Kerry ought to be hammering this hard.
Well, it's true that OBL is apparently still alive. But at least 100,000+ Arabs are dead. Nothing like displacement behavior for a made dog president.
-K. Lorenz
McCain has 2008 on the brain. What a sellout.
Here is another hotline to call....
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Osama and Rove , working together to upset US elections. Heard that homeland security issued caution about the elections.
Is this all they have to scare us away from the polls? I'm disappointed.
Look, we all know that from a substantive and thinking person's point of view, this latest OBL tape makes Bush look bad.
The problem is that the way the GOP talking points and the "Mighty Wurlizter" of their allies work, and the way they consistently spin things, they just keep repeating something over and over again until it embeds itself inside the consciousness of people and people find themselves agreeing with it.
It seems to me, that is exactly what is going on now in the media.
And so, again, I ask: What is the Kerry campaign ACTIVELY doing to counter this strategy, which in the past, has proven so highly effective?
Give them enough rope---The Republicans have shown an amazing tendency to overplay every hand they get, this is no exception. Their obvious attempt to play this for partisan gain is going to come across as ugly and cynical.
What will American be like in 2008?
If by "weird" you mean, "downright delusional", yeah, Repubs are "weird", alright. Can't believe they're touting their worst failure as a "help to the president (sic)".
Facts mean nothing to these people. Argument/reasoning is utterly pointless. They really don't give a rat's ass about the truth, nor do they seem to give a fuck about the security of the country, or the fact that they are killing their fellow human beings in direct contradiction to the teachings of their supposed idol, Jesus. They seem to love scary bombs and machinery that kills and costs a lot. Doing the tedious work of guarding ports, getting flak jackets to the troops, vaccinating the world's poor, taking care of the mentally ill and elderly is utter horseshit to them. Oil rigs, tankers, SUBMARINES TO USE IN THE DESERT, that's the stuff!!!
No matter that none of that machinery has flushed Osama out dead or alive.
Bastards.
I heard on the radio today that the Marines are on food rationing before the Falluja attack. No more hot food for them. This was calmly reported by the announcer who then cut to sports scores.
"Their obvious attempt to play this for partisan gain is going to come across as ugly and cynical."
--Maybe to you and to me it will, but you give a lot of the voters too much credit.
--Is this what happened when the Bushies tried to take 9-11 to use it to spin the case for invading Iraq? Is this what happened with the Swift Boat attacks? Is this what has happened for the past three years whenvever the Bushies have played the "Keep us in power because we are the only thing in the world keeping you safe from the big, bad terrorists" card?
--Did all these things "come across as ugly and cynical" to the majority of the public?
--And lest we forget, we are three days away from an election, where "majorities of the public" are the things politicians are trying to get.
OT from my sister in Palm Beach County
Touch screen voting machines are lighting up Bush when a voter presses Kerry. Its happening a lot. Voters are complaining and poll workers are repeatedly " fixing" the problem.
I will look for a link.
Is it just me or is Kevin Drum getting more and more retarded?
This year, we've had no fewer than three in the final month of the campaign:
1. Flu vaccine shortage.
2. 380 tons of missing explosives.
3. The Osama videotape.
Isn't that amazing? Ultimately, these are all trivial issues that will be entirely forgotten within a few months, but they just might be the things that decide who will be president for the next four years.
Huh? Osama videos are "trivial"?
Yesterday, he said the 380 tons of explosives wasn't a big deal in the "grand scheme of things." Tell that to those poor legless, armless and lifeless bastards in Iraq.
What's the difference between McCain and a whore? Absolutely nothing but a whore can comb their own hair.
Yes, we'll agree with Drum that the explosives are trivial.
Right after we run a train on his ass with a stick of HMX or whatever it's called.
I saved a picture of McCain hugging Bush at the convention. The idea was that if I was *ever* somehow taken in by this guy in the future that I'd look at the picture and remember that he sold his soul (not to mention that of his wife and kid) to the Bushies. I'm looking for a similiar picture of Rudy Giuliani w/Bush, although I don't think I'll ever be taken in by his "America's Mayor" act again.
If Kevin had said "entirely forgotten by Bush" he'd have a point.
To Mc Cain:
How's it feel to be Bush's bitch?
I do think it is helpful personally, It's helpful for the American people to see bush isn't fit for command.
The theory that the tape helps Bush is based on nothing but polls that ask hypothetically who would be more effective against terrorism. The fact that Osama is alive and well 3 years later PROVES Bush is NOT effective against terorism. The tape itself trumps the polls, they are no longer relevant and the repubs are shooting themselves in their webbed feet.
I can't get to Marshall. Will somebody tell me what poll results he's supposed to have?
"Touch screen voting machines are lighting up Bush when a voter presses Kerry. Its happening a lot. Voters are complaining and poll workers are repeatedly " fixing" the problem. "
-Well it's not as if the Democratic Party didn't have 4 YEARS to deal with this problem.
--They DID have 4 YEARS, and yet the problems still persist . . . in spite of all the exposes of what happened in the 2000 election, and in spite of Bev Harris' exposes during the past two years regarding the dangers of "black box voting."
--Why are Democrats, through their own inaction and/or timidity, always complicit in their own defeat?
Rudy Giuliani: Beating the Shit Out of Homeless People and Blacks So You Don't Have To™
Weird - Ghoulish is more like it. I can't believe McCain - even after everything he's done, being such a little pet dog that he'll say shit like this. A man who fought for this country and they are rejoicing that the man who is responsible for killing 2700 Americans is alive and well. It is reprehensible, it is treasonous and John fucking McCain is beyond redemption. He goes right next to George.
chihuahua-What's the difference between McCain and a whore? Most whores have not committed war crimes by dropping bombs on innocents.
I wonder if this could be a backhanded way for McCain to sink Bush's campaign. No one could ever call him on it, but he's smart enough to know how bad it looks for him to say the Bin Laden tape is good for Bush.
Who knows. I think he's just a nutball, but maybe, just maybe he's getting even right now.
Off topic and shameless blog whoring-- read about my time spent volunteering here
1. Flu vaccine shortage.
A trivial issue if the flu season isn't bad.
But if there's another 1918, well, it will make 9/11 look like nothing.
talking about republicans, check out the funny picture here:
http://www.dailywarnews.blogspot.com/
Also read of the mad experiments that may have led to Abu ghraib:
http://books.guardian.co.uk/
extr...1339464,00.html
I don't think this story carries as much influence as the press is trumpeting and if the Republicans keep running their yaps, it will hurt them.
The AOL News page culls it's stories from a number of sources, AP, CNN, NYT, etc..
Here is a glimpse of the headlines which link to the current top stories.
Eight Marines Die in Iraq; Blast Kills Seven
Osama Tape Jolts Race
MORE TOP NEWS
· Army Extends Iraq Tours for 6,500 Troops
· Part of 9/11 Report Unreleased; An Inquiry Is Begun
· Group Says It Warned U.S. About Unsecured Explosives
· Contract Extended for Halliburton Despite Warnings
Note* The Halliburton story is very juicy so here is a non-AOL link.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/
uslate...4585810,00.html
Osama or no Osama, this isn't a banner news day for the Republicans.
Please remember that, because of the unusually high turnout expected at the polls this year, it has been decided that Democrats will be voting on Tuesday, November 2nd, and Republicans will be voting on Wednesday, November 3rd.
Be sure to remind all your friends.
Jeremiah - Link please. A source to back that up.
The Democrats, you little fuck stain, have lawyers, PACs, watchers and every thing else you could imagine on top of every one of these problems.
If you want to make inflammatory assertions, you'd better know what you are talking about first. The Democrats have brought fucking howitzers to this knife fight. Get informed before you try to inflame.
Unlike McCain, the rest of us have access to
Unlike McCain, the rest of us have access to information outside the RNC talking points.
I'm glad to see that the Repubs are so proud of their little idiot incompetent. Fucking morons.
But how do you people expect to keep the eternal war alive if you actually defeat your enemies? That's bad for business. Arms business that is.
Remember: 9/11 is the best thing that ever happened to bushit.
Please remember that, because of the unusually high turnout expected at the polls this year, it has been decided that Democrats will be voting on Tuesday, November 2nd, and Republicans will be voting on Wednesday, November 3rd.
Be sure to remind all your friends.
Jeremiah,
I'm going to suggest, once, calmly, that you take a deep breath and quit spewing. Thank you.
Why are Democrats, through their own inaction and/or timidity, always complicit in their own defeat?
Why doesn't that battered wife just tell her husband to stop after calling the police, the neighbors and her family didn't do anything?
Idiot.
Capital Gang starting on CNN...I can't wait to hear what Novak has to say....hehehehe
Kate O'beirne is such a whore.
For the guy who couldn't get through to Josh Marshall:
A short note on the race, the polls, and what the Bush camp is calling bin Laden's "little gift."
The next few days phone polling probably amounts to one of the biggest industries in the United States.
So it's interesting to look at the results of last night's post-gift polling.
First the four tracking polls released today and thus including roughly one-third of calls after the release of the OBL tape.
In Zogby's, Kerry moved up one point.
In Rasmussen's, Kerry moved up one point.
In WaPo/ABC, Kerry moved up two points.
In Tipp, Bush moved up two points.
Two other national polls were released (at least that I've seen), Newsweek and Fox.
One third of the Newsweek poll was done last night. And in their poll Bush was up over Kerry by 50% to 44%. That's four points better than the Newsweek poll the previous week that had Bush over Kerry 48% to 46%.
Look, though, at the Fox poll.
Fox did a poll Wednesday and Thursday night. And then they did another poll with calls Thursday and Friday night. So the common denominator is that both polls had calls Thursday night. And half the calls in the second poll were done post-gift.
The first Fox poll had Bush up 5% (50% to 45%) and the second had him up 2% (47% to 45%).
Now, does this mean the bin Laden tape is giving a boost to Kerry? Of course, not. These are tiny changes. And it's altogether possible that this small shift is simply the result of statistical 'noise' -- numbers wobbling around within the polls' margins of error.
But it should put at least some damper on the notion that the release of the OBL tape would lead to some sudden Bush surge.
At least if the pundits are listening.
That site's just dog slow. Those ads are bandwidth killers...yuck.
Bibi Netanyahu and others have been explicit in their joy over IX/XI's effect (not IX/XI itself)--the way it gives the justification to "take the gloves off". PNAC was explicit in wanting such a disaster. That's that whole "9-10 world" meme. What hurts and frightens America is good for Bush and his type of question-sensitive leader.
All the pictures lately of Bush getting out of helicopters, etc. etc. on the campaign trail has McCain getting out with him. It's like George has him on a leash. It makes me sick to my stomach. I can't believe how far that man could sink. This is the man who smeared his service to his country and smeared his family.
Either McCain is porking Jenna, or he already did and they are blackmailing him. Or else he is reprehensible and totally amoral.
Listen Tena, you uninformed bitch,
The story about "Black Box" Voting broke here on the Internet about two years ago, and activists have been makding a big deal about it for the past two years.
In spite of this, the call for a paper trail is still being resisted in many states, and many Democrats have only just NOW begun to wake up to the issue. Moreover, even though some places have passed legislation making paper trails mandatory, the fact is that this will not take effect until 2006.
So, I go back to my original point: These machines should have ALREADY had paper trails on them. And the fact is they don't. And many of us on the Internet have been aware of this and have been screaming about it for A LONG TIME. Nonetheless, the situation persists.
So, don't give me your shit, your uninformed Johnny-come-lately. 'Cause you don't know what HELL you are talking about.
McCain wanted a cabinet position. He's about to find out what happens when you bet it all on a broken-down lame nag.
McCain is right. It will be very helpful to the President. He can finally go back to Texas and twiddle his fucking thumbs. And he can just forget about OBL again, not worry about him any more.
He hates all of this HARD WORK anyway.
McCain is right to use irony here. We all should.
Osama: In your upcoming election, you will have the choice between two men - George W. Bush and John Kerry. One of these candidates will lead to more terrorist attacks, even larger than 9/11. In my video, I tell you about how your current president, George W. Bush, totally botched any attempt to stop 9/11, and actually gave us way more time to execute it than we ever imagined we’d have. Because of my anti-Bush statements, some people (FOX News, especially) have called this tape my endorsement of John Kerry. But I never said that.
Vazzini: Hmm.
O: All right: which candidate is the poison? The battle of wits has begun. It ends when you vote, and find out if you chose right, or if you are dead.
V: But it’s so simple. All I have to do is divine from what I know of you. Are you the sort of man who would endorse the candidate he actually wants to win, or endorse his enemy? [Vizzini pauses to study Osama] Now, a clever man would endorse his own candidate, because he would know that only a great fool would vote for who he was told. I’m not a great fool, so I can clearly not for the candidate you endorse. But you must have known I was not a great fool; you would have counted on it, so I can clearly not vote for the candidate you insult.
O: You’ve made your decision then?
V: Not remotely. Because you are a from Saudi Arabia, as everyone knows. And Saudi Arabia is entirely peopled with criminals. And criminals are used to having people not trust them, as you are not trusted by me. So I can clearly not vote for the candidate you endorse.
O: Truly, you have a dizzying intellect.
V: Wait till I get going! Where was I?
O: Saudi Arabia.
V: Yes – Saudi Arabia, and you must have suspected I would have known your origin, so I can clearly not vote for the candidate you claim to oppose!
O: You’re just stalling now.
V: You’d like to think that, wouldn’t you? You’ve beaten my towers, which means you’re exceptionally strong. So, you could have endorsed the candidate you don’t want, trusting on your strength to save you. So I can clearly not vote for the candidate you say you like. But, you’ve also bested the FBI and CIA, which means you must have studied. And in studying, you must have learned that man is mortal so you would have put the person you don’t want as far from yourself as possible, so I can clearly not vote for the person who you say you don’t want!
O: You’re trying to trick me into giving away something – it won’t work –
V: It has worked – you’ve given everything away – I know which candidate to vote for!
O: Then make your choice.
V: I will. And I choose [stops suddenly and points at something behind Osama] what in the world can that be?
O: [Turns, looks] What? Where? I don’t see anything.
[Vizzini quickly switches the ballots while Osama has his head turned.]
V: Oh, well, I-I could have sworn I saw something. No matter.
[Osama turns to face him again. Vizzini starts to laugh.]
O: What’s so funny?
Why doesn't that battered wife just
Yeah, that's just about got the situation pegged right there.
have McCain.
Goddamn it.
Somebody has some pictures of McCain in a rather bad position.....Karl must have paid for something on McCain.
I will never forget the look on McCain's face when Bush had his arm around him on Air Force One...
Something's up.
I just do not understand McCain..and he does look tortured these days.
Part 2:
V: I’ll tell you in a minute. First, I’ll vote - for the candidate you endorse.
[Vizzini picks up his ballot and votes for George W. Bush]
O: You guessed wrong.
V: [roaring with laughter] You only think I guessed wrong… [louder now] …that’s what’s so funny! I switched ballots when your back was turned. You fool.
[Osama sits silently.]
V: You fell victim to one of the classic blunders. The most famous is “Never get involved in a land war in Iraq.” But only slightly less well known is this: “Never go in against an American when death is on the line.”
[Vizzini roars with laughter, and falls over dead]
Kate O'beirne is such a whore.
ZuZu's Petals-Nah, she couldn't get a nickel for a bj from Snuffy Smith.
Listen Tena, you uninformed bitch
Ooh, bad move, buddy. Bad move.
REPUBLICANs ARE AFRAID OF THE BIN LADEN TAPE...
FROM NY TIMES:
"But for every measure of hope there is some measure of anxiety gnawing at the adoring crowds that are shadowing the president the last days of his re-election campaign.
"I haven't talked to anybody who is not concerned," said Mr. Nichols, who took a day's vacation on Thursday to see the president at a hockey rink in Saginaw. "I think it is closer than it should be."
The videotaped message by Osama bin Laden on Friday served to heighten the uneasiness.
Linda Bentley, a real estate agent who attended a Bush rally on Saturday in Grand Rapids, Mich., said she was infuriated by Mr. bin Laden's interjection into the campaign. She was also a bit worried about it.
"He is trying to make the president look incompetent," Ms. Bentley said. "I just hope people will realize that he is trying to influence our democracy and our election."
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/3...ign/
31road.html
First the 4 tracking polls released today and thus including roughly one-third of calls after the release of the OBL tape.
In Zogby's, Kerry moved up one point.
In Rasmussen's, Kerry moved up one point.
In WaPo/ABC, Kerry moved up two points.
In Tipp, Bush moved up two points.
Two other national polls were released (at least that I've seen), Newsweek and Fox.
One third of the Newsweek poll was done last night. And in their poll Bush was up over Kerry by 50% to 44%. That's four points better than the Newsweek poll the previous week that had Bush over Kerry 48% to 46%.
Look, though, at the Fox poll.
Fox did a poll Wednesday and Thursday night. And then they did another poll with calls Thursday and Friday night. So the common denominator is that both polls had calls Thursday night. And half the calls in the second poll were done post-gift.
The first Fox poll had Bush up 5% (50% to 45%) and the second had him up 2% (47% to 45%).
Now, does this mean the bin Laden tape is giving a boost to Kerry? Of course, not. These are tiny changes. And it's altogether possible that this small shift is simply the result of statistical 'noise' -- numbers wobbling around within the polls' margins of error.
But it should put at least some damper on the notion that the release of the OBL tape would lead to some sudden Bush surge.
That was from Josh Marshall's post...whoever wanted to know
Ah, Vizzini's choice.
Unfortunately, it was totally moot because the result would be same no matter which decision Vizzini made.
God
damned
war
I hope this puts an end ONCE AND FOR ALL to all the "McCain in the Kerry cabinet" talk.
Fuck him.
Jack-frm your NYT article:
"He [OBL] is trying to make the president look incompetent," Ms. Bentley said.
There is mobius strip irony here.
Jeremiah,
Leave the mysoginistic shit at the door. Traveling to a swing state? Volunteering w/ Election Protection? We ARE the Democrats so quit bitching about why haven't the Democrats done blah blah blah. Run for chairman of your county Democratic Committee. Bitching about what others haven't done is not what grownups do.
And do not ever call Tena another bad name. Ever.
Kate O'Beirne is so buck-toothed she could eat a peanut butter samich from across the street.
Go, Hecate!!!!
kate o'beirne not only needs an orthodonist she needs an intellect transplant -- she musta been something before electricity
OBL is Bush's Moby Dick. Period.
Zuzu...that was before she got the false ones. Remember her "gap"? A few months ago?
Vizzini said, "I've hired you to help me start a war! It's an prestigious line of work, with a long and glorious tradition."
Hmm, who started this war?
Spinoza:
I noticed it too. I think this is what the so-called media pundits are missing. The appearance of OBL reminds everyone of Bush's INCOMPETANCE especially since the morning after that we hear news of 8 marines dead.
Hey, Old Hat:
What else would you say to someone who said the following to you:
"The Democrats, you little fuck stain, have lawyers, PACs, watchers and every thing else you could imagine on top of every one of these problems."
--I guess that you are just counseling that I "turn the other cheek" in response to that "fuck stain" comment, aren't you?
--No wonder a person like you takes offense when I point out that Democrats don't know how to FIGHT or go on the offensive.
Bill Clinton's about to be live on CSPAN. In New Mexico.
Syntallic-o'beirne mask for Halloween?
Listen carefully Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, and Bill O’Reilly:
A TRAITOR is not someone who hates America.
A TRAITOR is someone who causes others to hate America.
The Republican Party’s mismanagement of the economy has hurt many, many people. But there is one thing that the Republicans under George Bush have done that is politically unforgivable in America. They have profoundly damaged our reputation around the world.
Right after Nine Eleven, Americans were viewed with great affection and sympathy everywhere on the planet. Now, an unprecedented amount of hatred is being expressed for America, not just by a few lunatic radicals, but by nations that had always seen us as friends, previously. How did it happen? It’s simple, really. People hate that which they fear.
In his tenure as President, George Bush has managed to cause people all over the world---who once respected and admired America---to fear us. When President Bush told the world that America couldn’t wait for the weapons inspectors to find WMD, that he was sending our army into Iraq whether the rest of the world approved or not, it scared them to death.
Over many decades, America had enhanced its reputation in the world by being kind and generous and by showing that we were a thoughtful participant in the world community. Other nations were reassured by the fact that we always seemed quite reluctant to go to war. They did not fear such a nation.
Under the leadership of George W. Bush, that has changed dramatically. Now the world can’t stop thinking about Abu Ghraib and George Bush’s phony justifications for invading a country that was not an immediate threat to us.
George Bush had his chance to do things in our name that would make us feel proud to be Americans. We now know that he is clueless. He may sincerely want to protect America in his own blundering way, but we can’t afford any more of his mind-boggling incompetence.
If you have not joined the George Bush Cult and want to see America respected and admired in the world again, vote for John Kerry on November 2nd. Do it to save America’s reputation.
James J. Kroeger
www.taxwisdom.org
"What's the difference between McCain and a whore? Absolutely nothing but a whore can comb their own hair"
What's the difference between McCain and a whore? Absoulutely nothing, but a whore only takes it in the ass if she wants to.
It amazes me how the TV talking heads, many of whom live and work in NYC, can shill for Bush.Granted ,they take their marching orders from corporate higher ups ,but don't they worry that Bush's incompetence leaves them more vulnerable in a major target city?
Oh really, Jeremiah? I suppose that Democrats didn't stand up in Congress and try again and again to raise this issue only to be shouted down?
You are full of shit. There have been lawsuits, in California they have quit using Diebold, there are probably 1000 Democratic lawyers working on this election.
So, how come you want to whine about this at us? I have contributed a whole bunch of money and time to ElectionProtection04. I can tell you that we have it covered. Quit trashing the Democrats and us.
Suppose Bush won this 2004 election. Suppose then Bush won't be able to get Bin Ladin in next 4 years.
Come 2008 elections, will Republicans still campaign on terrorism? Will it be used to elect GBW for a third time?
Bush has failed on "global war on terrorism", yet still tries to sell himself on it!!!
Thanks for the C-SPAN update, Mike!
Hear, Hear - Hecate!
Fox did a poll Wednesday and Thursday night. And then they did another poll with calls Thursday and Friday night. So the common denominator is that both polls had calls Thursday night. And half the calls in the second poll were done post-gift.
The first Fox poll had Bush up 5% (50% to 45%) and the second had him up 2% (47% to 45%).
Fox is going to say Bush is up no matter what - these people are not journalists, they are Republican WHORES.
OT: Thank you to the person who has been posting the link to fair.org ( the media contact list).
Done "times" 50 or so..
What's the difference between McCain and O'Bierne? McCain wants a nickel more before he will go down on you.
"I noticed it too. I think this is what the so-called media pundits are missing. The appearance of OBL reminds everyone of Bush's INCOMPETANCE especially since the morning after that we hear news of 8 marines dead."
--I have no doubt the media pundits are "missing" this. After all, this is their usual script. This is what they are either paid to do, or too stupid not to do, or both.
--My fear, however, is that by repeating something enough times--no wonder how invalid it may be--they can end up turing public opinion in their favor.
Zuzu...that was before she got the false ones. Remember her "gap"? A few months ago?
gottalaff
Oh, yes....speaking of Halloween masks!! Ye gods, she could be that old woman all the little kids whose house they watch with big eyes and whisper is a witch.
Listen Tena, you uninformed ...
Once a foaming-at-the-mouth troll, always a-foaming-at-the-mouth troll. Some things never change, sadly.
"Just like Clinton celebrated Monica's blue dress with a barrage of missiles on tylenol factories?"
Oh, shut the fuck up!
The Clinton shit is getting REAL old!
William Gibson weighs in on the OBL tape:
"Saturday, October 30, 2004
posted 9:58 AM
After sleeping on it, I find I'm not quite as inclined to imagine that OBL's tape was a conscious effort to swing the election for Bush. It doesn't seem to me that he understands us quite that well, and it doesn't seem to me that I understand him well enough to be that certain of what he's up to. I think the message might actually have been: "Hi. 9-11 was all my idea. And you haven't been able to catch me, so I'll do it all over again if I decide to. I know you're having an election now, but that won't make any difference either way. In order to make a difference, you'll have to get your government to stop doing the things they're doing that keep me wanting to attack you again. 'Bye."
It gets harder, the more I think about it, to see that causing many of the remaining pool of undecided US voters to go Bush. I think OBL needed a logo moment, though, in terms of the ongoing validity of his global brand, and look what he's been able to pull off, with virtually no outlay: The world's full attention, as both candidates drop everything to respond.
You know who would've completely gotten OBL? Andy Warhol.
(After comparing it to the original Arabic, a friend recommends the Al-Jazeera translation of OBL's message as more accurate than the Reuters/NYT version.)"
Joe Trippi nails it in the NYT:
"The more these images are out there now, the more it helps Bush," said Joe Trippi, who was the campaign manager for Howard Dean, one of Mr. Kerry's rivals for the Democratic nomination."
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/3...n/
31assess.html
You know, for a lib reporter, ADAM NAGOURNEY ain't such a bad guy.
Jeremiah - dont' talk to tena that way. Come to think of it, don't talk to anyone that way, but there is absolutely no call to be so offensive and hostile to Tena in particular who is a wise and positive contributor.
Whatever you said, I wasn't listening because you were so rude.
Yeah, Joe Trippi's a smart guy with the way he beat Kerry in Iowa and all.
I guess that you are just counseling that I "turn the other cheek" in response to that "fuck stain" comment, aren't you?
No, I'm suggesting you're a Naderite troll, which is pretty much synonymous with being a "fuck stain." Besides, you're small fry. No one cares about your opinion.
Clinton and THK in Sante fe coming up on Cspan in a coupla minutes.
But if there's another 1918, well, it will make 9/11 look like nothing.
OK, do Red Sox world series victories cause influenza epidemics?
Old Hat: Jeremiah has a problem with women in general. He's displayed it here a number of times.
What's the difference between McCain and a whore?
You actually have to pay a whore.
Oh really, Jeremiah? I suppose that Democrats didn't stand up in Congress and try again and again to raise this issue only to be shouted down?
You are full of shit. There have been lawsuits, in California they have quit using Diebold, there are probably 1000 Democratic lawyers working on this election.
--I don't doubt these things. And I don't doubt that some progress has been made on the issue. However, the requirement for a paper trail does not seem to be in effect everywhere in THIS election, now does it?
So, how come you want to whine about this at us? I have contributed a whole bunch of money and time to ElectionProtection04. I can tell you that we have it covered. Quit trashing the Democrats and us.
--I'm not trashing you. I'm trashing the Democratic politicians who don't respond and/or respond quickly to their activist base.
--As for your other comment, is your whole point that the reason we don't have paper mandatory paper trails in place throughout the land is because the Democrats in Congress just didn't have enough power in Congress to make it happen? Is this what you are saying?
--If the Democrats in Congress can't take being shouted at, and can't learn how to FIGHT BACK twice as hard, then what the hell good are they?
Old Hat: Jeremiah has a problem with women in general. He's displayed it here a number of times.
Daddy knocked him around a bit as a kid, huh?
as far as Josh Marshall is concerned, yo bro, what's up with the tectonic plates?
The truth is, there is no way that tape is going to help Bush. It is the coup de grace to weeks of bad news and reminders of what a truly bad president bush is.
Bush's whole campaign is built on the theme that he is tougher and will protect us better, much better than Kerry.
If that's true, then what in the heck is that OBL guy doing on our TV sets 3 years after 911!?!?!?
OBL is alive and free, threatening us on TV, mocking our President and making demands directly to us, the American people. Where's Bush? Out campaigning for re-election.
Iraq, meanwhile, is in the toilet. Our kids are still getting their heads blown off (8 today alone) 16 months after Bush declared victory. It is a bloody mess over there, and it's only going to get worse.
The tape undermines Bush's central argument for re-election while strengthing Kerry's.
Ultimately, 4 more years of Bush is more frightening than that tape of OBL, especially when you consider that Bush let OBL get away once already.
Rove is Moby Dick. So is Dick Cheney.
Bin Laden is the Indian who builds the coffin and smokes the pipe all the time.
Suppose Bush won this 2004 election. Suppose then Bush won't be able to get Bin Ladin in next 4 years.
Come 2008 elections, will Republicans still campaign on terrorism? Will it be used to elect GBW for a third time?
Bush has failed on "global war on terrorism", yet still tries to sell himself on it!!!
Check out the picture at cnn.com
Kind of a good representation of what is being attempted right now.
"Flu vaccine shortage.
A trivial issue if the flu season isn't bad.
But if there's another 1918, well, it will make 9/11 look like nothing."
I've just read an excellent book about that 1918 pandemic. It's called "The Great Influenza" by John M. Barry and it came out this year.
That plague - and it was plague - was a terrible thing!
"Conservative values" - what an oxymoron!
Whores generally don't swallow.
>Jeremiah - dont' talk to tena that way. Come to think of it, don't talk to anyone that way,<
Wait a minute. How was Tena talking to Jeremiah in the first place? There are a few big shots on this blog that want to narrow the discourse to a kind of sugar coated cheerleading. If you do not agree with Pie, Tena, Jeffers, and Hecate then you are automatically a troll. Reminds me of another party and their "faithful". I believe that Jeremiah is just as loyal to the Dems as any of us. He has a right to bitch just like the rest of us.
Can't we all just get along?
Say goodbye to MN.
Guys...I don't know what to make of what I just saw on the television...I was so taken aback by a commercial that I guess started running today that I didn't see who sponsored it, but it was a 527.
It has a shot of bin Laden waving a BC04 placard and speaking (in a not so good accent and poor English) that he endorses Bush for president.
This cannot be good on the heels of yesterday.
One of our groups has gone way too far, IMO.
Second trick or treat update:
A princess (the big brother), a fireman (little sister), and Spongebob Squarepants (youngest brother). Kid's dad: Where'd you get your Kerry sign? I give him one of my extras as his Halloween treat. I got several after reading about stolen signs, but so far my original one is still standing.
Hecate/Tena,
Well, "bitch" is not a nice thing to call somebody, but neither is "fuckstain", and you called Jeremiah Ellis that FIRST, after he expressed a point of view that you may or may not agree with in a perfectly reasonable manner.
Stop being such goddamn BROWNSHIRTS!
I don't care how long you have been posting here. Your behavior is childish and reprehensible, and it makes me angry, especially after the way you, Hecate viciously and gratouitously beat up on me for expressing anxiety over what destabilizing event might occur in the wake of the OBL tape, never mind that that evil righ-wing mole Randi Rhodes was EXACTLY the same thing as I was on Air America Radio. Just Fuckin' STOP it, okay?
"Can't we all just get along?"
No, and now the terrorists have won.
Just kidding, of course.
Silligh, you are amazing:
So that if I respond in kind to a woman calling me a "fuckstain," I supposedly have problems with women?
Is the logical implication of what you are saying that a man "who DOES NOT have problems with women" just lest such insults roll off his back, understanding that that is "just the way women are?" Is this what you are suggesting?
--Are you suggesting that when it comes to standards of human behavior, women and men should not be held to the same standards of decency?
--If so, then you are one hell of a sexist. And not against me, or against men, but against your own sex.
I don't doubt these things. And I don't doubt that some progress has been made on the issue. However, the requirement for a paper trail does not seem to be in effect everywhere in THIS election, now does it?
Do you even have a vague understanding of how the DeLay Congress works? Or the concept of "parliamentary majorities"? Or are you living in some naive Indymedia fantasyland where the good guys, if they yell catchy-enough slogans and make cool-enough looking puppets for their marches, get laws passed? You're both clumsy and foolish if you haven't bothered to educate yourself about Congressional procedure, although your grasp of contemporary Washington politics is cute in a soon-to-be-crushed-innocence sort of way.
Take a walk around the block a couple of times, kid. Then get back to us.
"He is trying to make the president look incompetent," Ms. Bentley said."
As if anyone had to try...arghhhhh!
He IS incompetent and that's why the media and the talking heads are spinning, spinning, spinning, spinning. Why would they have to try SO hard to convince Americans that the Osama tape is good for Bush..if it really was?
Arghhhh! Clueless, mean-spirited, conscienceless, war-mongerers, who love blood and bombs and death.
"Feels good!"
If they can't produce body o'sama
The tape's a Bush lose o' rama
Bubbleboy's lookin' bad
Remembrin' his Dad?
Due for some Bushco bad kaama
Bush's gift from OBL is a Tojjan Horse
I like the idea of videotaping the polling places on election day.Inside and out.Get it on tape.Play candid camera and sneak a hidden camera inside.Tape any rethug jerks harrassing any voters on line. Anyone gets out of line,we can track them down later,if you know what I'm saying.
Events that "finished off" Kerry:
-SBVT
-Not responding quickly enough to above
-"Foreign leaders"
-"Met with the Security Council"
-Mary Cheney
-Rather memos
-Cambodia/Viet Nam
-Going dark/silent during August
-Retooling the campaign during primaries
-Retooling again 1 1/2 months ago
-McCain flirtation
-"Voted for before voting against"
-No convention bounce
-Bush's bounce
I'm sure we could come up with more. This tape fell on a Friday, and will be gone from the public conciousness by Monday. Except one thing: Bush hasn't captured Osama, and has wasted blood and treasure in the process.
You folks are overestimating the influence the media has on about 95% of the country. Most folks will be coming out of their sugar-induced comas to remember that Bush is an incompetent idiot with a staff full of psychopaths; it5's the reason we're about to see possibly the largest turnout in 70 years, if not history.
Kerry. In. Landslide.
You who are calling for fairness and sense in coming to my defense, thank you.
And I mean that most sincerely.
as far as Josh Marshall is concerned, yo bro, what's up with the tectonic plates?
Oh, that? And the million other hge earth shattering scoops I've promised but failed to deliver on?
What can I say? I'm a cocktease.
Or are you living in some naive Indymedia fantasyland where the good guys, if they yell catchy-enough slogans and make cool-enough looking puppets for their marches, get laws passed?
You should have been in NYC during the RNC. Nothing was more annoying than seeing people chanting "who's streets our streets" as the cops surrounded them with nets like fish.
The one thing that the Counterpunch/Indymedia/Nader crowd isn't taking into account is this.
If Bush wins and keeps appointing judges, there won't be any more street demonstrations/grassroots activism. No judge will oppose any city from shutting down anything.
A princess (the big brother), a fireman (little sister)..
To each his own I guess...
There are a few big shots on this blog that want to narrow the discourse to a kind of sugar coated cheerleading. If you do not agree with Pie, Tena, Jeffers, and Hecate then you are automatically a troll. I believe that Jeremiah is just as loyal to the Dems as any of us. He has a right to bitch just like the rest of us.
While sometimes people can be a little quick on the trigger with calling people a troll, there's a history with Jermiah Elias/Elias/Sartre. He's been trolling here for at least a year and has gotten into some pretty nasty exchanges with Pie amd Tena in the past. That is why he got called a fuckstain.
Yeah, Old Trippi did such a great job for Dr. Dean. I'd sure as hell trust his judgment. Oh, yeah.
Did the Shrubbery ever make the arrangements with Bekins? I -know- I left that message with somebody at the WH, and they have to sit down with the estimator before January.
Terry C- I read the book earlier this year. It's a little scary that the influenze began in (iirc) a Kansas army camp. And it was labeled the Spanish influenza because countries including the US censored the news of it xcpt for Spain.So that was where people first heard about it.
anyone report this yet ? looters over-run chemical site
http://story.news.yahoo.com/
news...d_chemical_site
Dammit. I was supposed to wear my "Josh Marshall" mask in that last post.
Mr Kroeger,
Good post. I found it very interesting that The Economist (British magazine, center to Right in point of view)has reluctantly endorsed John Kerry and called Bush an Incompetent. This was not because of the incompetence he has showed in his mismanagement of economic matters (which is beyond dispute), but the incompetence of the Administrations shipping of war prisoners from Afghanistan to Guantanimo and the Administration approved torture of prisoners in Iraq at Abu Gahrib. In the eyes of the world at its most objective state, there is absolutely nothing worse than Bush’s betrayal of our American reputation for honesty and justice that was demonstrated in those two shameful incidents. For those, I would support the prosecution of Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Colin Powell in the World Court in The Hague. They are absolutely Class A international felons and traitors to the United States.
Yeah, Old Trippi did such a great job for Dr. Dean. I'd sure as hell trust his judgment. Oh, yeah.
From zero to Susan Estrich in six months.
THK is hot.
Blerb
I haven't called Jeremiah anything -- yet. Try reading before posint, ok? As I suggested to you yesterday, I suggested to Jeremiah that he calm the fuck down and not run around screaming. And if Randi Rhodes were to post here in full-on freak out mode, I'd suggest the same to here. Screaming and flapping your arms and yelling that we're all gonna die, I tell you, die! is neither helpful nor is it a sign of a mature individual. If you don't like it here, I'm given to understand that there are a few other blogs in existence.
Isn't it nice of the gop to provide toll free numbers that we can call to explain to them that they have fucked up completely? Nice use of resources and it isn't fucking with turnout.
d
Thanks for the link, delphil. That's nuts...
Try to use TinyUrl.com for posting long URLs...
I think the thread has been infected with Kevin Costner Clones - Idjits for Nader.
My take is that both sides are nervous about the OBL tape -- there's just no clear "winner." Gloating on either side looks really bad for reasons stated in this thread. So far, the repubs are ahead of that game which I think is a loser.
As I posted in an earlier thread, Concerned Citizens for a Safer America will be running national spots on Wolf Blitzer, Lou Dobbs, Paula Zahn and Larry King Live. The visual features Bush reading "My Pet Goat" in front of the school children.
Audio is a quote from Martin Luther King: "The ulitmate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy."
Keep an eye out for these. These spots were produced and booked before the OBL tape was even known about. I think they'll be powerful given the context of current events.
Ay ay ay. I don't think it is helpful for people to expend energy on personal animosity. I call for mutual civility. Everybody who called anybody else a name should say sorry and stop, except of course for calling GWB Chimpy and other understandable insults to people who aren't around personally but are rather abstract targets of our justifiable wrath. Come to think of it, if GWB was participating personally I'd still call him chimpy and much worse names than that. But tena and jeremiah should just be addressed by their chosen names/handles.
Whoof. I note that the bodies in Iraq are piling up like cordwood, it has been another horrible day there and since that's now routine, it's largely ignored. Marines killed in a large group. Our well trained, disciplined Iraqi allies moving in and spraying the local civilians with 50 caliber machine gun fire and making a nice stack of innocent bystanders. Hostages killed, various people and their stuff blown up by U.S. warplanes, kids dying of diarrhea, women kidnapped and raped, all of this for the greater glory of our world straddling emperor primate. Let's focus our wrath where it belongs.
Terry C, Spinoza - ahem. If you would like in-depth information concerning influenza and the Great War, may I suggest consulting the Great War Primary Document Archives, and particularly, the Medical section.
Thank you.
Terry C- I read the book earlier this year. It's a little scary that the influenze began in (iirc) a Kansas army camp. And it was labeled the Spanish influenza because countries including the US censored the news of it xcpt for Spain.So that was where people first heard about it.
I was always curious about where the names for most of the streets in my hometown came from.
It turns out that about half were named after victims of the 1918 epidemic.
You folks are overestimating the influence the media has on about 95% of the country.
Ding, ding, ding, ding! We have a winnah!
Old Hat,
I don't know if you realize it, but with your last post to me, and with your "battered wife" analagy of earlier, you are essentially saying that the poor Democrats are just too weak and helpless in the face of all that Republican power.
I don't buy it. If they are week and helpless, it is because they have bought into that role.
There was a time in this country when the left knew how to fight. The labor victories of the past didn't happen because labor leaders just sat back and said, "Well, we're just too weak to strike for a 40-hour work weak. Those big, bad employers will hire Pinkerton men to come and bust our heads."
No. They fought back. And they fought back HARD. They organized their own goon squads.
Now, we have a "seasonsed D.C. insider pro" like yourself lecturing me on the niceties of parliamentary procedure?
Yeah. Newt Ginrich sure relied on that "parliamentary procedure" in getting his "Contract with America" passed, didn't he? And how was he rewarded by refusing to just defer to his parliamentary minority position in the House? He got control of the House of Representatives in '94.
What the hell is wrong with you?
So that if I respond in kind to a woman calling me a "fuckstain," I supposedly have problems with women?
Sweetheart, some of us haven't forgotten your tirade last summer when you explained how you LOVE to use words like "bitch" and "cunt" against women because it's supposed to send us running with our tails between our legs or something. Let's see, at that point you were railing against pro-choice women here, because you're anti-abortion -- I believe that was the context.
And let's DO try to be logical here, you called Tena a bitch before she called you a fuckstain. But the point is, you've got a history. You've already crapped in your bed here -- now you have to lie in it.
Novakula refers to Democrats as "Scumbags" on CNN- not clear whether he meant all of them or just those in Texas. (They were talking about Delay's redistricting.) Literally smacked down by Mark Shields.
Another shining Republican moment. Earlier he allowed as how he'd be happy to vote for Alan Keyes.
You would think that some Democrats would have learned, never trust a fucking Republican.
In the 80's Raygun snuckered a lot of whities including working stiffs into voting for his ole pruneface ass.
Raygun promply gave them a good old fashioned ass whuppin.
Again in recent election, white dems turn around and fall for Swarzinigger, Rudy and Big John Macain.
Folks repukes will never give you an even break. Its fuck democrats, gays, progressives and coloreds.
When will freekin liberal pussies get the message. There are no good Republicans.
MinnesotaJim -we usually get a better class of trolls. You'll have to try harder than that.
Hecate,
Blerb didn't say YOU called me anything.
He meant Tena, who displayed her poetic and polite "weaker sex" nature by calling me a "fuckstain."
Hi, this is Ayn Rand. I am awarding the Howard Roark Award this year to which true objectivist?
a) GWB
b) OBS
c) Dick "Fuck You" Cheney
d) Wolfie Wolfowitz
e) Jeffrey Dahmer
Well, it was a tough call. And the committee of former virgin economists deflowered by me voted a tie for OBL and GWB!
To quote from part of the award: "These men have gone their own way, not letting the chains of society drag them down. Each in his own way has triumphed in his selfish virtues.
I thank you and I am now going to go masturbate with my Ann Coulter doll.
We know where you live. We see the signs on your lawn. Once we win (and we will, God wills it), we will punishe you for your lack of faith in our leadership. We can spare your chuildren: after all, they can be re-educated in the right environemnt. But it is too, too late for you. You will have no sympathy, and the police and the government will not either. We will dance in your blood as you pay, pay,pay the price for giving aid and comfort to enemies of America.
James Wolcott predicts a Kerry win based on a Nickelodeon poll. I'm inclined to agree with him.
JE, as you have already been notified, rootdr@ispwest.com, you kinda have already crapped in this bed with your past Naderite and misogynistic ravings. Complaining that you were somehow maligned by Tena calling you a fuckstain is pathetic.
More compassionate conservatism?
You're all a bunch of fuckwad bastard sons- and daughters-of-bitches who fucking suck.
Laura Bush is a pampered slut.
SWR
That's really interesting. Do you mind if I ask where your hometown is?
"And let's DO try to be logical here, you called Tena a bitch before she called you a fuckstain. But the point is, you've got a history. You've already crapped in your bed here -- now you have to lie in it."
--Honey, I do hate to correct you, but you've got your facts wrong regarding who called who what and when. If you don't believe me, go back and read the whole thread from the beginning.
--As for using the word "cunt" on an ealier occasion, I believe that I did so ONLY AFTER you or some other person insulted me using a word as equally repugnant as "fuckstain."
--It is funny how you seem to be so blind to your own capacity for insult, but so keen to the capacity of others to insult you. With that kind of hypocrasy, you wouldn't happen to be giving yourself away as a closet Republican, would you?
Pardon, I was wrong about the order of insults. But you're no doubt aware of EXACTLY why people don't hold back on insulting you here, Jeremiah.
"Kill all lie-berals" is also a pampered slut.
You would think that some Democrats would have learned, never trust a fucking Republican.
In the 80's Raygun snuckered a lot of whities including working stiffs into voting for his ole pruneface ass.
My father voted for McGovern because he hated Nixon and still hates Reagan because he broke the air traffic controllers strike and yet he's voting for Bush because he thinks Kerry negotiated with the Vietnamese in Paris.
I think a lot of people vote this way. They're flaky.
Kill all lie-berals,
Want my address?
I'll wait up for you.
That's really interesting. Do you mind if I ask where your hometown is?
Hecate | Email | Homepage | 10.30.04 - 7:55 pm | #
Union County NJ.
bebe,
That's it. The image of Ayn Rand with an Ann Coulter doll has sent me breaking back into the Halloween candy. Must change taste in mouth!
I don't know if you realize it, but with your last post to me, and with your "battered wife" analagy of earlier, you are essentially saying that the poor Democrats are just too weak and helpless in the face of all that Republican power.
No, you completely misunderstood me. If someone is getting screwed (i.e. the Democratic party) do you get angry at the target of said screwing, or do you get angry at who's doing the screwing (i.e. the GOP). Logic states attack the GOP and Tom Delay's robots, not the Democratic party for not "fighting back" hard enough.
This isn't some boxing match on TV where you're passive observer and the Democratic party isn't some nebulous entity in the ether. You're responsible. I'm responsible. And the most irresponsible thing to do in the world in a situation like this is to browbeat and try and shame other people for not "doing" enough. It's called blaming the victim. And in this case the victim isn't the nebulous Democratic party in the ether, it's poor minority voters. Real people in other words.
So hit the GOP, not the Democratic party. Fight them. Fuck them.
JE, as you have already been notified, rootdr@ispwest.com, you kinda have already crapped in this bed with your past Naderite and misogynistic ravings. Complaining that you were somehow maligned by Tena calling you a fuckstain is pathetic.
Carpbasman | Email | Homepage | 10.30.04 - 7:54 pm | #
Hey Carpbasman, you're so full of shit to call me a Naderite. Pull your head out of your ass, fool.
I have two final words for you:
Blow me.
Wait wait - I called him a fuckstain first, guys, because he was acting like one. So yeah, he's right about that. But I was right too.
Quit bitching about Democrats didn't do this, didn't do that - it's gone - it's done - it's over - it's in the fucking past and it is not what you are claiming anyway. I've seen the video of Democrats trying to bring this issue up and being literally screamed down. You don't have a fucking clue what it has been like for them I'm sick of impotent Naderites whining about Democrats. You wouldn't know how to kick a Republican's ass if it begged you to. WE DO. Now shut the fuck up.
Bush supporters certainly are the illiterate, inbred and very, very scared townsfolk.
Old Hat
You've got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know... morons.
Oh no! Can we be accused of waging class warfare if we root for the smart people against the stupid people? Are we to be branded as anti-stupidist?
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bebe rebozo -- i heard Hustler magazine was selling ann coulter blow up dolls by the boney arms and legs were bruising the sex fiends when they opened the box
Shorter Jeremia:
Waaa! Someone called me a mean name! Waaa! And it was a girl, too! Waaa!
this just in -- willie horton ads are popping up all over the heartland
hold on, retraction from the GOP ... that was an alan keyes ad
Would your rather carp at each other or bask in Big Dog glow on C-SPAN?
Clinton's up and he's all outta bubble gum.
AMERICAblog shows us how to treat this little 'gift.'
It deserves to be seen widely.
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there was a link on drudge about how last night on larry king live walter cronkite implied that the bin laden tape might be the "october suprise" that karl rove had mentioned.
from drudge:
Somewhat smiling, Cronkite said he is "inclined to think that Karl Rove, the political manager at the White House, who is a very clever man, he probably set up bin Laden to this thing."
looks like the bev-borg have finally found the mighty casio.
pity.
-J.T.
Warlord of Silver Spring
Mars, Bitches!
You wouldn't know how to kick a Republican's ass if it begged you to. WE DO. Now shut the fuck up.
Wow, and now should we sign the world according to Tena loyalty oath?
Sister Mary Pottymouth-Laura is not a pampered slut. She is a boyfriend-murdering cold-as-ice lying, creepy, fungus-infested, bandwidth-limited, twin prawn-spawning, bible-farting, soul-sucking, desparate-for-a-lobotomy, hair-dying, criminally negligient for not outing her narrowband husband bottom dwelling shit eating whacked out scum to the nth Midland waiting for the next casket friggin one lobe latent sea slug.
OT
The most powerful commercial I have seen this election cycle was just repeated a minute ago on CNN...
It's from Real Voices (??),,,I think.
A mother talking about her son Casey who was killed in Iraq and asks how do you think she feels when she reads the news that there was no connection between Saddam and 9/11.
Breaks my heart everytime I see it.
Now shut the fuck up.
I really don't have anything to add to this. It was just so good, it deserved to be posted twice.
Jeremiah Elias says " Democrats don't know how to FIGHT or go on the offensive."
Sure they do JE - MoveOn and ACT have been out there pounding on Bush mercilessly for a year - but the majority of Americans simply DISAGREE with them. Like Zell says, they have put partinship and power politics ahead of national security, and are suffering defeats because of it.
James J. Kroeger says "Now the world can’t stop thinking about Abu Ghraib"
You mean the world's loony left MEDIA can't stop chewing that rag - I think the rest of us are pretty much over it. I'm much more concerned about wiping out Wahhabism myself.
JK says " George Bush had his chance to do things in our name that would make us feel proud to be Americans."
Hey - I was already proud to be an American - and who gives a rat's rectum what Jacque Chirac thinks? OBL doesn't. I don't either. But George has done surprisingly well hasn't he?
Believe it or not, this is World War III, people. Kerry simply isn't serious about it - and that's the reason why any reminders by OBL help Bush. McCain's not a sellout, he simply understands the reality of it all. There's a WAR going on - we didn't start it - but we need to finish it.
Get ready, boys, 'cause it's a BUSH LANDSLIDE in two more days! Then Ol' George can keep right on kicking some terrorist butt - just like we want him to.
Cheers!
You wouldn't know how to kick a Republican's ass if it begged you to. WE DO.
Kick all the repug ass you want, bud.
Literally smacked down by Mark Shields.
Jim. he didn't really smack Novakula on live TV, did he? As much as I would like to see it.
...husband bottom dwelling shit eating whacked out scum to the nth Midland waiting for the next casket friggin one lobe latent sea slug.
bebe rebozo
I stand corrected. "Kill all lie-berals," though, is still a pampered slut.
Jeremiah,
If you have nothing of importance to contribute here then I suggest you go away. You criticize and offer no suggestions on how to change the system. Have you volunteered to man polling stations? Have you offered to drive those who can't to the polls? Have you done anything else but complain about something Democrats have tried to fix, but to no avail? If the answer to any of the above questions is no then you have no right to complain. The government is for and by the people (that would be us.) If you have been nothing more than a Monday morning quarterback then you have no say.
Bubba is tearing it up in New Mexico .. somebody please run this tape on network news
There was a time in this country when the left knew how to fight. The labor victories of the past didn't happen because labor leaders just sat back and said, "Well, we're just too weak to strike for a 40-hour work weak. Those big, bad employers will hire Pinkerton men to come and bust our heads." No. They fought back. And they fought back HARD. They organized their own goon squads.
Ha, spare me this trust fund baby "In Dubious Battle" Howard Zinn dreamworld horseshit. Please.
You're not some blue collar bloke trying to make a buck, mac, so drop the pretense.
"This isn't some boxing match on TV where you're passive observer and the Democratic party isn't some nebulous entity in the ether. You're responsible. I'm responsible. And the most irresponsible thing to do in the world in a situation like this is to browbeat and try and shame other people for not "doing" enough. It's called blaming the victim. And in this case the victim isn't the nebulous Democratic party in the ether, it's poor minority voters. Real people in other words."
--Uuummm, let me see. During the run up to the war in Iraq, starting in September of 2002, I knew the reasons that Bush was giving for attacking Saddam were lies. Thus, I took to the streets and demonstrated. I contacted every Democratic politican I could think of. I e-mailed the DNC. I wrote letters to the editors of newspapers, and contacted the United Nations Security Council delegations, and I did all this consistently voicing the following message:
1. WMD are a lie.
2. Bush wants Iraq for the oil.
3. Don't give Bush authority to go to war in Iraq.
What did so many of the prominent Democrats in Congress do (including Kerry and Edwards and Clinton and Daschle and Gephardt) in response to the impassioned and persistent message of me and thousands of people like me? Instead of questioning Bush, they voted to give Bush the authority to go to war.
So, knock off the lectures about how things work in the Democratic Party and my supposed inability to fulfill my responsibilities.
You really don't know what the hell you're talking about.
syntallic
I am watching Clinton...its great. He puts the case so clear cut and plain you cannot help but agree.
Syntallic,
1) Yeah, Clinton is amazing.
2) Why the attack on Tena. Stupid!
3) Hecate you are amazing
Oooh, Mr. Bill you have to eat more chile and sopaipillas and crema! You're right in front of the Palacio, you can getlots of good food right THERE!
Go to La Fonda with Gov. Richardson and EAT MORE FOOD!
he didn't really smack Novakula on live TV, did he?
Depends on whom you ask- as soon as Novakula started talking about Demoncratic scumbags, Shields started telling him to back off and put his hand on his arm. Novakula made some comment like "Don't hit me, Mark." No transcript up yet.
Damn, Clinton is ON FIRE!
You've got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know... morons.
Fielding Mellish
Very often, I'll type "LOL" or "Ha" to indicate that I am laughing out loud when I am not actually laughing out loud.
But this actually made me laugh out loud, with great gusto.
Thanks, FM.
Dave Ross, a moderate and superb communicator who's a CSPAN wonk, is now running behind Dave Reichert, King County Sheriff (Green River task force), for GOP Jennifer Dunn's retired seat (8th, WA state -- Bellevue/east side of King County).
Dave was a Howard Dean delegate (Dean PAC) at the county caucus. He badly needs our last-minute help.
Dave has in-depth political experience as someone who has debated members of Islamic Jihad, questioned a Tblisi warlord, facilitated dialogue between Palestinians and Israelis and covered the war in Iraq live from Baghdad.
http://www.daveross2004.com/
http://www.dailykos.com/story/20...10/30/115344/
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Somebody right in front of the camera has a Clinton/Gore 96 sign.... Would that it were so..
More trick er treaters:
Dracula and the mummy. The mummy was pretty good, except I think those were Ace bandages. PEEPS ghosts definitely more popular than Smarties this year.
Has anyone any idea what David Brooks is on about? Just so I know what to expect if I read his column today.
"as soon as Novakula started talking about Demoncratic scumbags, Shields started telling him to back off and put his hand on his arm. Novakula made some comment like "Don't hit me, Mark"
You see, Anti-American Traitors aren't as strong as real Americans, and the slightests touch on their frail, dessicated skin causes blinding pain. It was an honest mistake.
Jeremiah,
If you have nothing of importance to contribute here then I suggest you go away.
--You are an arrogant piece of work, you know that? Who the fuck are you to say I have nothing of importance to contribute here?
You criticize and offer no suggestions on how to change the system. Have you volunteered to man polling stations?
--As a matter of fact, I have, and I will be doing so Tuesday morning from 7:00 am to 10:00 as a poll watcher for the local Democratic Party.
Have you done anything else but complain about something Democrats have tried to fix, but to no avail?
--Let me see, I devoted an average of 10 hours a week and over $1,200 of my money to tyring to get Howard Dean the Democratic nomination. Does this count for anything in your book?
If the answer to any of the above questions is no then you have no right to complain.
--Oh, cut the shit.
The government is for and by the people (that would be us.) If you have been nothing more than a Monday morning quarterback then you have no say.
--Honey, for you to even suggest that I have only been a "Monday morning quaterback," is a testament to how ignorant and way out of your depth you are. You are presumptuous as hell to even suggest as such.
Very nice show now on MSNBC doc. on Kerry. You can feel the change in the wind.
"Tylenol factories"?!? Hell fire! They can't even keep their lame stories straight.
Jeremiah E--
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with friends...OSAMA BIN LADEN is being given safe haven with the help of Pakistani officials, British security sources believe
(Hecate, didn't know Peeps MADE ghosts! Although last year, The Fella made comments about his Sno-Ball addiction, so when I brought him a box of orange-coated "Glo-Balls with Scream Filling," he laughed and clutched them to his heart.)
You guys are cracking me up-I don't think I ever heard the word "f*ckstain" before in my life-What exactly is a "f*ckstain"-oh!, Okay, I think I know.... nevermind....
memes learned a new word that I will surely use sometime in the future against the opposite sex, during one of my 4 times a year tirades.
Thanks guys
"as soon as Novakula started talking about Demoncratic scumbags, Shields started telling him to back off and put his hand on his arm. Novakula made some comment like "Don't hit me, Mark"
That was Novakula? I thought it was one of those Halloween skeleton decorations with dead batteries.
TheaLogie-David Brooks suffers from being made to memorize Atlas Shrugged by his father. He was in his teenage years caught soliciting economists in public bathrooms. A former girl friend reported that almost always immediately after he ejaculated he would say, "Atlas shrugged".
OT
slate.msn.com WTF?!
presumptuous as hell to even suggest as such.
Actually, the use of "as such" in this sentence is, itself, fairly presumptous.
Jeremiah, give it up. No one here is buying what you're selling. You're digging this hole deeper and deeper and making a bigger fool of yourself.
"Tylenol factories"?!? Hell fire! They can't even keep their lame stories straight.
This particular lie was debunked by Garry Wills in last weeks issue of the New York Review of Books, FWIW, in the Letters section.
Still, nice to see Unka Karl dumping some of his last-minute cash on the old moronic greenshirt fuck squad... Christ knows they don't have anything else to do with their time...
anon 8:16=meme
"Has anyone any idea what David Brooks is on about? Just so I know what to expect if I read his column today."
Just a guess...
"Mr. Suburbanalia thinks the 350 tons of explosives are what happens when Mr. Granola-eater goes to the bathroom! Mrs. Volvo knows bin Laden was endorsing Kerry! Thomas Teflon missing flu shots rubber carriages cement, paste!"
Big f'n deal.
So Bin Laden puts out a tape.
Yeah, I said TAPE, as in VHS tape.
The man has no credibility.
I may start paying attention when he puts out a DVD.
But a tape? No way.
This is 2004, fer Chrissakes.
What's next, a Bin Laden 8-track?
Yeah, I'll put it proudly, right next to my Ray Conniff 8-tracks.
What's the word?
Oh yeah...Sheesh!
Oh yeah, and send John McCain
back to the Hanoi Hilton.
He has to go back to look for that lost part of his cerebral cortext.
NMRed! Go run to the Santa Fe Plaza with food for Mr. Bill! Quick!
bebe rebozo | Email | Homepage | 10.30.04 - 8:16 pm | #
Did you and Nixon really have a homosexual relationship?
Meanwhile, you can just about smell the unraveling:
The US Justice Department has reportedly not released a final chapter of the September 11 commission's report related to conflicting accounts of efforts to track and chase the jets hijacked that day, and is unlikely to do so before Tuesday's presidential vote.
Meeting a pre-election deadline for release of the full report had been a top commission priority, The New York Times report stressed.
"Drawing from this unpublished part of the inquiry, the commission quietly asked the inspectors general at the Departments of Defense and Transportation to review what it had determined were broadly inaccurate accounts provided by several civil and military officials about efforts to track and chase the hijacked aircraft on September 11," the newspaper said.
"In testimony before the commission, officials had described a quick response to the hijackings that narrowly missed intercepting some of the planes, but the commission's investigators later determined from documentary evidence that none of the military planes were anywhere near the four airliners," the report added.
"Officials at the Federal Aviation Administration testified that they had notified the military within a few minutes of each hijacking, but the investigation found that tape recordings contradicted that assertion," it noted.
The paper quoted David Barnes, a spokesman with the Department of Transportation, as saying that if the reviews found wrongdoing, the inspector general could recommend administrative penalties or ask federal prosecutors to begin a criminal probe...
I can wait... tomorrow, a month from now, ten years from now... but the truth will come out, and I will live to see every moronic brownshirt fuck responsible for the events that day hung by their balls.
Then we start on the collaborators...
Has anyone any idea what David Brooks is on about? Just so I know what to expect if I read his column today.
I talk about Starbuck's new Pumpkintime Spice Frappucino. It's deelish.
In fact, I'm sipping one right now as I casually flip through J. Crew's winter catalogue and run my hands over my new American Express Blue credit card, the one that's exactly like every other credit card, except it's made out of clear plastic and it has a computer chip thingee in it.
"You've got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know... morons.
Oh no! Can we be accused of waging class warfare if we root for the smart people against the stupid people? Are we to be branded as anti-stupidist?
-
Fielding Mellish "
Literally LOL. Great post. That has been a countercurrent of late: where is written in stone that the red pork-infested states are more American than the Jewish enclaves in New York City, or the artists in Los Angeles, or the techies in Berkeley?
More tripe.
And our job is to start reclaiming the smarties as the ones to pander to, after Kerry wins in a landslide.
It makes my head hurt to experience the sucking up to the uneducated and uninformed. OBL tape is a classic example. "Dead or alive, we'll get him... See? He's still alive and scary! Vote for me for sheriff!"
Jeremiah, give it up. No one here is buying what you're selling. You're digging this hole deeper and deeper and making a bigger fool of yourself.
What the fuck is the matter with you, Jeremiah?
Jeremiah,
How can you say that I am "way our of my depth" and that I am ignorant. From what you have posted today I've seen nothing of what you have listed. I don't think in any way I am out of my league here. What Howard Dean did for the party was terrific. He energized the base when it was needed. He has since devoted his time in campaigning for Kerry and Democratic candidates for Congress. The Democrats have been fighting and will continue to do so. In no way did I intend to offend you, but you can't simply call someone a bitch because they disagree with your position. Let's keep the discourse at a higher level. I will end with this; I think you are a little angry and need to get a hold of your emotions. It does no one any good to let emotion overrun common sense.
The US Justice Department has reportedly not released a final chapter of the September 11 commission's report related to conflicting accounts of efforts to track and chase the jets hijacked that day, and is unlikely to do so before Tuesday's presidential vote.
Holy. Shit.
Damn, I nearly fell off my chair...
stinky feet: in all seriousness, a big problem will be the division created by Bush having given the conservatives such a free rein, even if Kerry does get the presidency. No Lincoln here to temporize between the Reds and the Blues (as opposed to the Yankees and the Confederates)...
The media need a kick in the head.
Assholes.
where is written in stone that the red pork-infested states are more American than the Jewish enclaves in New York City, or the artists in Los Angeles, or the techies in Berkeley?
The Electoral College and the fact that Wyoming and California both get two Senators.
Still, nice to see Unka Karl dumping some of his last-minute cash on the old moronic greenshirt fuck squad... Christ knows they don't have anything else to do with their time...
dave
Don't be so sure...Looks to me like they're pretty busy:
Fund-raising group milks vulnerable senior citizens
The College Republican National Committee has raised $6.3 million this year through an aggressive and misleading fund-raising campaign that collected money from senior citizens who thought they were giving to the election efforts of President Bush and other top Republicans.
Many of the top donors were in their 80s and 90s. The donors wrote checks — sometimes hundreds and, in at least one case, totaling more than $100,000 — to groups with official sounding-names such as "Republican Headquarters 2004," "Republican Elections Committee" and the "National Republican Campaign Fund."
But all of those groups, according to the small print on the letters, were simply projects of the College Republicans, who collected all of the checks.
And little of the money went to election efforts.
Of the money spent by the group this year, nearly 90 percent went to direct-mail vendors and postage expenses, according to records filed with the Internal Revenue Service.
Some of the elderly donors, meanwhile, wound up bouncing checks and emptying their bank accounts.
"I don't have any more money," said Cecilia Barbier, a 90-year-old retired church council worker in New York City. "I'm stopping giving to everybody. That was all my savings that they got.
College Republicans serve as the party's outreach organization on college campuses. The group has been a starting place for many prominent conservatives, including Bush adviser Karl Rove, anti-tax activist Grover Norquist and former Christian Coalition executive director Ralph Reed.
bebe rebozo, Did you and Nixon really have a homosexual relationship?
SWR- Unfortunately no. He was in love with William Safire. Back then Bill in lipstick and pumps was a dreamboat.
David Boies on C-Span now.
But I swear to the Lord Almighty and his Son Chuy, the next one of you people who intersect with the Big Dog had better make sure you feed him - that child is too damn thin and needs to eat!
Monica A, ignore him when he gets like this.
GWPDA,
That better be low fat tex mex you're feeding the Big Dawg! Cuz I've seen some of your recipes. Just sayin'
Let's not forget about the noble FAA springing into action... to destroy the evidence! Courtesy of Faux:
FAA Destroyed Sept. 11 Air-Traffic-Control Tapes
Friday, May 07, 2004
WASHINGTON — Air traffic controllers who handled two of the hijacked flights on Sept. 11, 2001, recorded their experiences shortly after the planes crashed into the World Trade Center but a supervisor destroyed the tape, government investigators said Thursday.
A report by Transportation Department Inspector General Kenneth Mead (search) said the manager for the New York-area air traffic control center asked the controllers to make the recordings a few hours after the crashes in belief they would be important for law enforcement.
Investigators never heard it. Sometime between December 2001 and February 2002, an unidentified Federal Aviation Administration (search) quality assurance manager crushed the cassette case in his hand, cut the tape into small pieces and threw them away in multiple trash cans, the report said.
"We were told that nobody ever listened to, transcribed or duplicated the tape," Mead said in the report sent to Sen. John McCain (search). The Arizona Republican asked the inspector general to look into how well the agency was cooperating with the independent panel investigating the attacks.
Neither manager told anyone outside the center — including their superiors and law enforcement officials — about the tape's existence, the report said. The Sept. 11 commission learned of the tape during interviews with New York air traffic control center personnel between September and October.
The destruction occurred even though the FAA sent a directive three days after the hijackings: "Retain and secure until further notice ALL Administrative/Operational data and records. ... If a question arises whether or not you should retain the data, RETAIN IT."
The quality assurance manager said he destroyed the tape because he felt it violated FAA policy calling for written statements from controllers who have handled a plane involved in an accident or other serious incident. He also said he felt the controllers were not in the right frame of mind to have consented to the taping, the report said.
The manager said he waited several months to destroy the tape because he promised the local controllers' union vice president that he would get rid of it once the control center's formal accident package was complete, the report said. That package was sent to FAA headquarters in November 2001.
The report did not characterize the tape's destruction as an attempted cover-up. But it said the recording could have helped provide a fuller explanation of what happened on Sept. 11.
"What those six controllers recounted in a group setting on Sept. 11, in their own voices, about what transpired that morning, are
Yeah, GWPDA, watched the Big Dog. He was outstanding, as ususal, but I didn't like those bags under his eyes and he is way too thin.
But no one, NO ONE, can do what the Big Dog can do!
I'll try, but I do get annoyed when people make statements then offer no proof to back them. The Democrats are fighting an uphill battle (Republican Congress, conservative courts, etc...) and I think we're doing a damned good job. I really hate it when you're giving your all and someone comes in and says that you're not.
continued
"What those six controllers recounted in a group setting on Sept. 11, in their own voices, about what transpired that morning, are no longer available to assist any investigation or inform the public," the report said.
Mead said his office referred the case to federal prosecutors in New York, but they declined to prosecute because of lack of criminal intent.
FAA spokesman Greg Martin said the quality control manager was disciplined for violating the directive to keep everything relating to the hijackings and to turn them over to investigators. He said privacy considerations prevented him from disclosing how the manager was disciplined.
Martin said the FAA believes the tape is consistent with written statements and other materials provided to investigators. It "would not have added in any significant way to the information already provided to investigators and members of the 9-11 commission," Martin said.
The report said the controllers who made the tape had either talked to the hijacked planes that crashed into the World Trade Center (search) or were working radar positions that intersected with the jetliners' flight paths.
The report concluded that there was "some measure of consistency" between witness statements later taken from the controllers and what was recorded on the tape.
That conclusion was based on interviews with the six controllers and all 10 witnesses to the taping, and on sketchy notes taken during the tape recording. Also retained were radar data and recordings of radio transmissions from the cockpit.
John Carr, president of the air traffic controllers' union, said he did not know whether the manager did the right thing by destroying the tape.
"It was a traumatic time for him," he said. "He was the custodian for the darkest moment in our nation's history."
Is it too late for me to point out that Jeremiah Elias remains a patent asshole and a crashing bore, no matter what he has or hasn't done for the Democratic party?
If not, consider it pointed out.
O/T
Sorry in advance for a mostly sel-
fish post. I confess that I have not been reading Atrios nor Kos with any regularity
lately- I have a good excuse though! I have been furiously working with Kerry's
Phone Corps (being limited by benign but
pesky chronic health concerns that limit my active campaign participation- unable to canvass, etc) -so if this information has
already been posted, my apologies.
Even though I live in Mass, I cannot
seem to get much info on Kerry's election
night rally/celebration. I know it will be at Copley Plaza in Boston, but that's all I know. If some kind soul has more details, I would be ever so grateful! Thanks-
It seems to me that everyone is missing the point. OBL is releasing his own 9-11 report. You know, the part we weren't supposed to see until after the election, that assigns responsibility.
Aljazeera's translation.
"And for the record, we had agreed with the Commander-General Muhammad Ataa, Allah have mercy on him, that all the operations should be carried out within 20 minutes before Bush and his administration notice.
It never occurred to us that the Commander in Chief of the armed forces would abandon 50,000 of his citizens in the twin towers to face those great horrors alone at a time when they most needed him.
But because it seemed to him that occupying himself by talking to the little girl about the goat and its butting was more important than occupying himself with the planes and their butting of the skyscrapers we were given three times the period required to execute the operations. All praise is due to Allah."
halloween story-Yesterday I was the class mom at my sons pre-school. I dressed up as a pumpkin. I overstuffed my custume so much that I could hardly sit or fit between the steering wheel and the front of the drivers seat. I got pulled over by a cop for a rolling stop instead of a complete stop at the stop sign. Embarrassed as hell and my face color matching my outfit. I nervously waited for the officer to come to my car. When he got a good look at me-I swear he laughed his ass off. He was laughing so hard that he couldn't even compose a sentence. He finally said, Lady, this is the first time I ever pulled over a pumpkin-you made my day-continuing to laugh he walked away to his car and drove off-never giving me the ticket.
AAAHHH! Didn't change C-SPAN fast enough- Jenna and not-Jenna on to introduce Gampy Bush here in CO a couple days ago. That not-Jenna has some crazy eyes on her.
Is it too late for me to point out that Jeremiah Elias remains a patent asshole and a crashing bore, no matter what he has or hasn't done for the Democratic party?
If not, consider it pointed out.
He's not always so obnoxious, but when he is...
Yuk.
Pretty regressive here tonite, eh?
But Hecate, Shaw Kenawe, he's just right around the corner from La Fonda, and -everybody eats at La Fonda when they're in Santa Fe. Bill Richardson took the North Korean ambassador to La Fonda for heaven's sake! See, they could eat any of this and be perfectly healthy.
Gotta eat in order to heal. In la Tierra Encantada there're many, many good things.
meme
That is a great story!! Bet the officer's been telling it all weekend.
Um, JE - Maybe they "just aren't that into you".
Kisses!
From Olbermann:
By definition, the logical fallacy, of course is simply this: Event A occurs. Then Event B occurs. Therefore, Event A caused Event B. Obviously, it’s simply not true. Nonetheless, when the presidential election is this close, we look for anything and everything that might predict the outcome— whether common-sense or logically fallacious.
And as logical fallacies go, we are privileged to have a doozy, one that seems to have correctly predicted the last seventeen Presidential Elections.
Terror? The economy? The incumbent’s final rating in the Gallup poll? Turnout in Ohio?
Nope. It’s the Washington Redskins.
JeffCO,
and that jenna got her command of the english language from her treacherous dim-witted daddy
not jenna looks like the prozac is about to tip the scales on her equilibrium -- i remember crack addicts on the street who seemed less 'fake alert' after a rock and a cup of coffee
Hecate-I am so embarrassed, I hope I never run into him again-I live in a small town.
meme,
just don't go all Laura "pickles" Bush on him and T-bone his torso with a pick up
Ah come on Syntallic, leave Jenna alone. She has to do McCain. And he apparently makes her dress up in Viet Cong pjs just before. It's gotta make life rough.
Leftwingnutjob forgot to mention that Bush can do all those things and lower taxes, erase the national debt, replace all th limbs with better-than-new prosthetics, keep every country from calling in their IOUs, stop global warming (simply by letting Luara out- the temperature will fall 20 degrees) and give everyone a new Ferrari, cigar or coconut, your choice. And- he's gonna kick all the terrorist ass himself, just like he did in Nam.
McCain to Young Jenna (dressed in her black VietCong outfit with leather straps and rhinestones spelling "hanoi hilton" on her ass:
"Five long years, he wore this watch up his ass. Then when he died of dysentery, he gave me the watch. I hid this uncomfortable piece of metal up my ass for two years. Then, after seven years, I was sent home to my family. And now, little [Jenna], I give the watch to you."
John Carr, president of the air traffic controllers' union, said he did not know whether the manager did the right thing by destroying the tape.
"It was a traumatic time for him," he said. "He was the custodian for the darkest moment in our nation's history."
JeffCO
Gee, you know, I'm sorry for his trauma and all, but he destroyed a historical document. Chopped the tape in pieces? That's overkill. Either dumb or evil, you decide.
More trick or treaters:
A frog, a knight in (tinfoil!) armour, and another Dick Cheney. That's two Cheneys so far...
*******IMPORTANT***************
DOES ANYONE KNOW IF THIS IS OUT ON OUR SIDE YET? LOOKS LIKE SINCLAIR IS UP TO OLD TRICKS.
Worldnetdaily
Sinclair stations to air swiftvet special (In Battleground States Tomorrow!)
WorldNetDaily ^ | 10/30/04 | WorldNetDaily
Posted on 10/30/2004 5:18:42 PM PDT by wagglebee
A 30-minute television special featuring Swift Boat Veterans and POWs for Truth, the group challenging Sen. John Kerry's version of his war record and his anti-war activities, is airing in 16 markets in eight battleground states, according to a non-profit Florida group buying the broadcast time.
Campaign Truth, responsible for producing the show, has added Fox network stations in the Ohio cities of Dayton and Columbus, owned by Sinclair Broadcast Group, the television chain at the center of controversy over the airing of another anti-Kerry documentary, "Stolen Honor."
The broadcasts will begin sometime after Fox's Sunday NFL preview show, Campaign Truth said.
The special, "Unfit to Lead," also is being aired on PAX network affilates in Cleveland and in seven other states, including Florida, where it will be seen in five major markets, Orlando, Jacksonville, Tampa, Miami and West Palm Beach.
In addition, it is scheduled in Denver; Minneapolis-St. Paul; Cleveland; Milwaukee; Des Moines, Iowa; Cedar Rapids, Iowa; Scranton, Pa.; and Charleston, W.Va.
The show, hosted by swiftboat vet spokesman John O'Neill, also is available exclusively to WorldNetDaily readers online for a limited time.
It features many of the men whose testimonies about Kerry were heard in the controversial advertisements played in key swing states over the past several months.
Times are listed below.
The broadcasts in Florida and Cleveland are being promoted with newspaper ads.
In the special, one of Kerry's former superior officers, Capt. George Elliott, says he believes Kerry should have been removed from command.
Elliott was commander of Coastal Division 11, where Kerry spent his four months of active duty in Vietnam.
"If I knew then what I know now, he would have been thrown out of my command and probably recommended for removal from the Navy," Elliott says of Kerry.
Stations airing "Unfit to Lead":
COLORADO
Denver: KPXC (PAX), Saturday at 1 p.m.
FLORIDA
Miami-Ft. Lauderdale: WPXM (PAX), Sunday at 5 p.m. and 11:30 p.m.
West Palm Beach: WPXP (PAX), Sunday at 5 p.m. and 11:30 p.m.
Orlando: WOPX (PAX), Saturday at 5 p.m. and Sunday at 5 p.m.
Tampa: WXPX (PAX), Sunday at 5 p.m. and 11:30 p.m.
Jacksonville: WPXC (PAX), Sunday at 5 p.m. and 11:30 p.m.
MINNESOTA
Minneapolis-St.Paul: KPXM (PAX), Sunday at 1 p.m.
OHIO
Cleveland: WVPX (PAX), Saturday at 1:30 p.m. and 5:30 p.m. and Sunday at 1 p.m.
WISCONSIN
Milwaukee: WXPE (PAX), Sunday at 1 p.m.
IOWA
Des Moines: KFPX (PAX), Sunday at 1 p.m.
Cedar Rapids: KPXR (PAX), Sunday at 1 p.m.
PENNS
.....about that post at 8:30p-not sure why I kept hitting the return key....I'm saving the bottle of champagne for Nov 2, so that's no excuse....
Did someone say "fake alert."
9-11, the most important event in recent history, so important we'll never know anything much about it.
Would your rather carp at each other or bask in Big Dog glow on C-SPAN?
Clinton's up and he's all outta bubble gum.
JeffCO
What a mean trick. I rush over there to see a mummified-looking poppy chimp bashing Kerry and giving a big shout out to his evil bitch of a wife. Guess I was too late.
Can't wait for this election to send our underachiever-in-chief back to the "ranch." I just read the description of Monsters, Inc. - "A human child slips into a world of monsters" - and thought "not if this election turns out right."
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meme
What are the stars saying about Sags and Cancers next Tuesday? Inquiring minds want to know!
WTF?-Those dirty slime bags. I thought that was over with. Is it the same one they just shown-cause that one seemed more pro Kerry than Pro-Bush.
NYMary - c'mon, you're a scholar, you know which it is.
EVIL, EVIL, EVIL! Destroying primary documents is EVIL!
I still believe that Karen Hughes is Jenna's father.
Hey, I am down for the great media blackout of '04/'05! Anyone who is interested, please email or leave comments on my blog with contact info.
Best idea I've heard: Mass cable cancellations, well publicized in advance. Notify all major news networks. Coupled with major advertiser boycotts, if possible.
GWPDA,
Well, that's what I thought. But I'm not really conspiracy-minded by nature, and generally, I find, if it's a choice between evil and imcompetent, incompetent wins almost every time. But maybe not in this case.
Sagittarius: Perhaps they are, just as in theory, all people are created equal too. But it is still hard to resist agreeing with Orwell's assertion that, 'some are more equal than others'. Every week holds promise. This week, though, well, you'll see. It's going to be exceptionally special.
Cancer: Saturn won't leave your sign until mid-2005. You are not, therefore, quite at the end of the most gruelling couple of years in the last few decades. But last week's Lunar Eclipse took you to a point that we could legitimately call, 'the beginning of the end'. You may be still be making your long, difficult journey but at least the destination is now visible. You know where you're going and you feel reasonably confident about your ability to get there. Er... don't you? This week should remove lingering doubts
McCain is definately selling out for some position in Chimpy's next term if they steal it...if not...he's toast...the man sold out worse than Gulliani....
He's as vile as the rest of this Truman Show administration is at this point...what little respect I had for him is gone...everyone on the rethug side is a pussy and even worse...shitheads like Gephardt and Daschle are worse...those fuckers are somewhere in Disneyland riding with the three year olds on the spinning saucer cups seeing who pukes first...
In a lot of ways the Democratic party leaders are as much cowards as the sellouts on the other side who would shit on their family memmbers porch to get a job in the fourth reich,,,
I've had it...I'm sick of everything....
OK, so which is Sag and which is Cancer?
I wanted to see my new polling place today, so I drove over to check it out. It was covered in Bush/Cheney banners. I was shocked.
I went home and called the local K&E headquarters. They said that if they have them up on election day to call them, because it's illegal.
I just wonder what they are going to do with my ballot after I fill it out.
'the beginning of the end'.
I loves me some Winnie references in the middle of a horoscope!
From what I got together so far-(I'm doing a mailing on Monday) and I haven't forgot you. Kerry is got the stronger chart, planets are transiting his 10th house of public life-lifts him to high stature. Bush is got some positive in his chart too, but more negative than Kerry overall. I got the inside scoop from a Vedic astrologer that tells me, no way can Bush win. There method is different than mine, and I am having a tough time myself, being objective.
My report on Monday includes a Teacher of mine-which I keep him in high regard-He sees Kerry as the winner.
Huh, some people were speculating that the October surprise would be OBL's corpse, but no one thought it would be a recent videotape of OBL looking very calm, healthy, rested, well-fed, and un-hunted as he opines on U.S. politics.
And this is good for Bush?
Kerry is a Sag and Bush, well, we all know he's been a Cancer upon our nation.
Campaign Truth, responsible for producing the show, has added Fox network stations in the Ohio cities of Dayton and Columbus, owned by Sinclair Broadcast Group, the television chain at the center of controversy over the airing of another anti-Kerry documentary, "Stolen Honor."
The. Sneaky. Fuckers.
Well, we all know what to do, don't we?
Hecate - Oh those English - even in astrology, they just can't help it....
John Kerry, b 11 December, Sagittarius. (Same as my Mama, of all things....)
George Bush is a Cancer (born in the beginning of July.) Kerry must be the Sagittarius.
Thanks, meme!
Hecate:
Judging by the horoscopes that GWPDA posted, I figured Kerry=Sag and Bush=Cancer, but I wanted to be sure. Thanks
Hecate-Sagittarius is also the Ascending sign of the United States, this puts Kerry's Sun on the Ascending line.
NYMary- I tend to think that when someone at the FAA not only destroys recorded eyewitness testimony to perhaps the biggest fuckup - I mean, darkest moment - in FAA history but chops the tape into little pieces and then distributes the pieces in various trash cans around the building to try to eliminate the possibility they could ever be reconstructed, there is quite possibly more going on than being overwhelmed by emotion.
But I'm probably just being too distrustful. What are the odds people would choose to cover their own asses rather than reveal a truth in which they look incompetent? I mean, when national security is at stake, surely that trumps self-interest, right?
Y'all should go check out that Olbermann piece I linked to just upthread; it's an interesting and well-documented logical fallacy.
I'll be cheering for homeboy Brett Favre and the Pack harder than I ever have or ever will again...
Let's face it, if the talkingheads want to make lemonade out of lemons, they will. I still think that a large turnout including folks who never voted before will put K/E in the whitehouse. It is not cliche to say that a lot (a whole lot) of people realize that this election is unlike any election in their lifetime.
GET OUT THE VOTE WE WIN.
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Those electronic voting machines need to be watched closely on election day.Vote numbers need to be updated by poll watchers all day so we have a true number to match against any fraud.
meme
Wow I never thought of the country as having a chart! What's Kerry's moon sign?
Well I sent this off to Sinclair Boycott.com and Moveon.org
I think this just came out. If anyone can help spread the word to other sites that would be helpful.
I tried to post at dailykos but apparently you need 24hs before your password will work.
Bushies sun is at the same degree as the US. This sucks because it is hard to separate the two. He brings the US down along with him.
RC Sanders,
I'll feel disloyal, but I'm praying for the Skins to lose and lose badly. Besides, why should this week be any different?
Happy Samhain, Hecate. All Souls and Dia des los Muertos here - add in All Hallows and that is -more- than enough omen'ing for me. Just reckoning the day told me enough that Election Day this year concerned movement, change and the governance of power.
Also raisinets given out freely, by strangers....
In conclusion - Feed Bill Clinton!
Gemini Moon-right on Edwards sun-So does it surprise you that he picked him for a running mate. I think not.
idea for a freewayblog:
If we catch Osama do we get our $2 trillion surplus back?
is Bin Laden offering a truce? it seems clear to me that he is trying to say that 911 was a retaliation, and that now the stakes are even, and should we continue to seek him out and kill his people we wil again be the transgressors. thank god all the politicians are being stern and threatening, he's clearly susceptible to threats...
maybe someone should think about Kerry's "sensitive" war on terror, to admit that a war fought without a psychological aspect is a war lost.
stinky feet, Old Hat - much as I'd like to take credit for the "common clay" part of the comment, that was from Mel Brook's masterpiece.
Jeremiah - please don't perceive this as "jumping on." I appreciate that both you and Tena and many folks in here have given great efforts for the progressive cause.
Keep in mind that no matter how loud we rail and shout at past injustices and mistakes, they are still past. The best thing Accounting 301 teaches is that "past expenditures" aren't a factor in selecting the best course of action for the future.
Many of us were Dean supporters. It's past. We have to take things from the present and build for the best possible future given where we are now.
Let's get together and avert the "circular firing squad" syndrome, mmkay?
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Pie
The bush daughters..
Remember the actress Karen Black??
Those are the same weird eyes you mentioned....eeeck.
Thanks, GWPDA! Some time I'd love to be in the SW for Day of the Dead. I love those sugar skulls! This is -- no surprise -- my favorite holiday!
John Kerry, born on Dec. 11, 1943, is a Sagittarius with four Gemini planets in the public relationship sector of his birth chart. He has a judicial character, but also has little tolerance for fools. Born with the rare Mars retrograde, he entered life with a rage — a deep, inner need to overcome (the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. also had the Mars retrograde). He has a strong sense of responsibility as well as feelings of caution about his message. Over the last 18 months the planets have empowered him with core strength. The long-term picture depicts him achieving his highest goals.
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/
0...artner=USERLAND
Karen Black rocks!
Just sent this out to all our media "friends."
Dear ,
I've listened for months to your speculation that capturing Osama Bin Laden would prove a huge boost for the President. So I'm a little confused that you now suggest the failure to capture Bin Laden boosts George Bush. It's a circular logic that seems lifted from Republican talking points. I hold you to a higher standard.
Like most voters, Friday's videotape only served to remind me that we have failed to bring Bin Laden to justice, that this barbarian can run and can hide. It is an embarrassing testament to the failure of President Bush.
Why haven't we captured Bin Laden? Why is this madman still on the loose three years after the President declared him "wanted: dead or alive?" And why on earth are top Republican strategists calling this tape, Bin Laden's "Little Gift" to Bush?
Eight of our Marines were killed today. Did their heroic sacrifice bring us any closer to capturing Bin Laden or disrupting Al Qaeda? I hope, as a responsible journalist, you're prepared to address these questions. I have my answer: a vote for John Kerry.
Sincerely,
Christopher Greco
Louisville, KY 40204
WTF? Just setting the VCR before I went out and noticed that ChristNN is running a RW Christian Chimpfomercial. No apparent counterpoints to the vilifying of other belief systems but plenty of reminders of who wink wink God's choice is.
I don't think I'm going to need these , but just in case, I'll be ready to produce them next week.
What are the stars saying about Sags and Cancers next Tuesday? Inquiring minds want to know!
Hecate, you will give any stargazer in the world a GIGANTIC headache asking questions like that right now!
can we please, please, please get Nedra Pickler fired?
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news...63&
sid=96378798
Gawd...
Thanks meme. The Gemini moon makes sense, although I'd have guessed Libra. I know so little about astrology, but it's fascinating stuff!
OT
Over at drugereport I clicked on an interesting story about Tony Blairs's wife....
Seems she is on a speaking tour of the US and she was at Harvard and said some not too flattering things about the present administration. Mainly they dealt with how we handle our terrorist prisoners and gay rights.
I wonder what Tony will think?
Great letter, Christopher from KY. I hope you send it to all the media outlets.
Shoeless Joe,
As my great grandmother once told me, "we all have our day of reckoning when we will have to account for our actions." I hope I'm not standing behind Ms. Pickler (I don't like to wait.)
Most polls show Democrat John Kerry and President Bush in a dead heat in West Virginia, but Bush is seeking to repeat his 2000 victory in the Mountain State.
Hecate-Teresa Heinz is a Libra!
President. Kerry.
Just wanted to say it.
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**false alarm**
this is a "paid" 30 min infomercial
by the SWV.
Which I'm sure they paid rock bottom rates from Sinclair for.
9/11: cui bono
Yes, no doubt on the Swift Butts--probably $1 a minute.
Re: the Pickler story, I'm sure she would've nailed Kerry for being a drunk if he'd quaffed the whole beer in five minutes.
silleigh
Forgot to tell you-You and Teresa Heinz share the same exact Birthday!
Just watched BOB ROBERTS. You should too.
Monica A: If Bush is a Cancer, then doesn't that make Kerry a Chemo?
What do you mean, OBL is Bush's Moby Dick? Capt. Ahab pursued Moby Dick, maniacally, to the exclusion of everything else. GWB couldn't be bothered to pursue OBL. If anyone is Bush's Moby Dick, it's Saddam Hussein.
Think about this before you cast your vote.
Look at the following list of names and consider who they would most likely vote for if they were allowed to vote in our coming election,
Martin Luther King
Abraham Lincoln
Thomas Jefferson
Benjamin Franklin
Thomas Paine
Gandhi
Eleanor Roosevelt
Robert Kennedy
Nelson Mandela
Bishop Tutu
The Lorax
When you cast your vote will you be voting the same way as you think the above people will vote?
How closely aligned with these people will you be?
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Please print it out and carry it with to the Polls
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5. If you are IN LINE to vote when the polls are scheduled to close, your have an absolute right to get in to vote. THAT'S THE LAW!
Lima - Great flick. Sadly I feel I am LIVING it.
someone here is too big for her own britches. Stop acting like you're the end-all be-all. If you call someone a "little fuckstain" be prepared for some shyte thrown your way.
We know where you live. We see the signs on your lawn. Once we win (and we will, God wills it)
Hey, that sounds familiar.
Who else do I know of that talks like that?
I can't quite remember. Tall guy, big beard... Wears a turban. I think he just put out a new album or something.
Oh, well. It'll come to me eventually.
NaFoFTENA- Her britches fit just fine.
Let it go.
We are on track for historic turnout in this election. Voters are coming out in record numbers for John Kerry.
And that has the Republicans scared. They have no plan, no hope, no way to win this election except to stop people from voting. Their strategy is simple:
1.Discourage Democratic voters from going to the polls by filling the airwaves with predictions of doom and gloom.
2.Delay voting and create lines at polls by challenging voters and election officials.
3.Deny voters the opportunity to cast their votes and have them counted.
But their strategy won't work. We will stop their attempts to deny our rights by using the best weapons in our arsenal: information and education.
It's vital that you know your voting rights. Take a minute today to make sure that others know their rights, too. Download our guide to voting rights:
http://www.democrats.org/votingrights/
Make sure to print out multiple copies and help us spread the word by distributing them as widely as you can.
For information about finding your polling place, use our polling place locator at Democrats.org:
http://www.democrats.org/
Remember: Voting is your right, and you are protected under the law. Exercise your right by voting for John Kerry, John Edwards, and all our Democratic candidates on November 2!
Have you contacted your Corporate Media Whore today?
http://www.fair.org/media-contac...ntact-
list.html
someone here is too big for her own britches..(drool,slobber)
Not a Fan of Foulmouth TENA
I see "Anonymous" has finally learned how to type a name in the appropriate box. Way to go - treat yourself to some more cheetos and 15 minutes at "Anti-Idiotarian Rottweiler!"
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The Kerry campaign should make sure everybody knows about the Bush campaign official calling the Bin Laden tape his "little gift" to Bush. The Kerry campaign should point out how SICK it is that anybody would consider any gesture from that murderer to be "a gift." The Kerry folks should then reiterate that this murderer has been at large far too long and point out the measures we can take to focus on his capture.
Forgot to tell you-You and Teresa Heinz share the same exact Birthday!
Not the year, I'm assuming? (My Pluto-Saturn bitchslap is exact today... wouldn't wish that on my new Preznit's wife!)
Other than THAT little tidbit, that news makes me smile.
Not the same year silly-But the Pluto/Saturn conjunction would make you think your decades older.
Leave it to the GOP to not realize that OBL punk'd them. He most likely was not interested in the elections but wanted to share with the Muslim world that he is indead healthier than in 2001 and that he thinks Bush is his bitch.
Nitwits in the GOP think this gives us citizens the overwhelming urge to hide behind the only president in 12 years that couldn't find OBL. They should think again.
let Jimmy James post info. - fine by me.......
Saturday night live-is live tonight!
Been disappointed lately, but emminem
is on and I wonder if he will sing his new anti-Bush song.
Meme --
And very soon I will start waving bye-bye to Pluto for the LAST time; don't let the door hit ya in the ass on your way out you little lovable clot-of-ice out there you, YEEEARRRRRRRGH!!!
As for politics: I'm putting a lot of faith in the fact that Bush's Saturn return just came around, so he can finally start reaping what he's sown. From what I've read, the first one "helps" you grow up; the second one pounds you if you haven't done things right. Now, what seeds has Bushboy sown over the last 28-30 years?
Maureen Dowd calls the Bushies on their OBL spinning in her Sunday column. Score one for the home team.
Clearly the Republicans are objectively pro-bin Laden.
Top Three Casualties from this campaign -- meaning -- their future ambitions are pretty much done:
1>. Guiliani - jumped the shark over his blaming the troops about the missing weapons in iraq. Sorry, Rudi, just because your city got hit on 9/11, it doesn't mean you're a terrorism expert.
2>. McCain - the bear hug with the sweaty Dubya killed you in 2008; when the great inquisition is over in the rethug party after this election, you, too, will be thrown into the pit of sacrifice. Get some friends in AEI, because your run for preznut is on life suppot at best.
3>. O'Neill - if there ever was a reason to bring back tar and feathering, this is the guy at the top of the list - karma catches up quick to smear fiends. Atwater was lucky because he died before the day of extreme atonement - the same will not happen for O'Neill, unless someone injects an airbubble in his aorta real soon.
More to follow as events unwind.
Have you contacted your Corporate Media Whore today?
more to the point, Jimmy, have YOU contacted them today, or are you too busy spamming Atrios?
Silleigh
The vedic astrologer said Bush saturn is going to the bottom of his chart and Kerrys is going to the top.
Can only mean one thing for a leader of a country. Kerry wins!
Silleigh
Did you watch Bill Maher last night.
I thought the show was great.
Belzer (law & order guy) called Ann
"the pie" coulter a fascist party doll.
Osama bin Laden Determined To Strike in US
You know, that might be the answer
- to act boastfully about something
we ought to be ashamed of. That's a
trick that never seems to fail.
-- Col. Korn
belzer punked her ass real good last night, knowing that coulter had to be listening in for her queue to start spackling over the truth in most every thing political
coulter was visibly trembling and shot off her punk ass mouth calling belzer, "OBL," and you can hear costner giggling which probably made it even more harsh to the pitiful skin and bones poster child -- gotta say this for coulter, she woulda looked like a queen in dachau -- gassing liberal jews by the hundreds
Monica A,
Do you know what you are talking about? I didn't call someone a "bitch" because she disagreed with my position. I called her a "bitch" because she FIRST insulted me by called me a "fuckstain," and she did so only because she disagreed with my opinion.
As for saying that you are "out of your depth" this is what I meant: You accused me of all sorts of things that are simply not true. You don't know me. You don't know what I have or haven't done politically during the past three years. You ASSUMED that I haven't done a whole lot of things, and then called me a "Monday Morning Quarterback." You're out of your depth because you don't know what you are talking about when it comes to accusing me of this crap. And instead of coming back and apologizing for your inaccurate characterizations of and assumptions about me, once I corrected you, you came back and began to lecture me on Howard Dean. Talk about (conveniently) going off on a tangent once you've been confronted . . . .
As for you, Old Hat, I'm not putting on any working man 'act' as you so condescendingly put it. I never claimed to be any such thing, and for you to come to that understanding from what I posted shows me how truly obtuse (purposely?) you are in that you missed the main point of what I was saying. (And I won't even beging to pretend that I understand what the Trust Fund comment was supposed to be about, other than, perhaps YOU YOURSELF come from that socio-economic strata of society and are projecting your own privileged background on to me.)
I suspect you are like all the young and arrogant sycophants to power that I've met in law school and right out of law school, who go to D.C. with stars in their eyes, kind of like hopeful starlets go to Hollywood thinking they're gonna be stars someday. Actually, I think it is YOU who is the out of touch elitist . . . . kind of like Hecate. (And boy, I've known too many "Democratic" D.C. lawyer types in my day. They make me want to puke. They're the ones who for the sake of their cocktail parties, and the way they get their jollies out of living in D.C. and rubbing elbows with the rich and powerful, consistenly sell out the rank and file members of the Democratic Party. They're the ones who turn into the James Carvilles and Paul Begalas and John Kerrys of the Democratic Party.)
And as for you Silly, you said:
"Sweetheart, some of us haven't forgotten your tirade last summer when you explained how you LOVE to use words like "bitch" and "cunt" against women because it's supposed to send us running with our tails between our legs or something. Let's see, at that point you were railing against pro-choice women here, because you're anti-abortion -- I believe that was the context. "
Silly bitch, you got your facts WRONG, WRONG, WRONG and distorted the record once again. I called you and Hecate what I called you ONLY AFTER you accused me of a whol
a whole lot of things that just simply were not true, and then literally added insult to injury by calling me something to rival "fuckstain." It was only then that I retaliated by using the words I used. Moreover, you consistently accused me of hating women and wanting to oppress them becuase I stated that I found abortion morally problematic, WHILE AT THE SAME TIME MAKING it clear that I in NO WAY ADVOCATED MAKING IT ILLEGAL and was therefore reluctantly pro-choice.
And then you had the nerve to play the victims with me because I retaliated in kind to your rude and inaccurate comments toward me.
You two are so fucking dishonest it isn't funny.
I have absolute proof that McCain is a douchebag. But I have no place to post the proof. Anyone want to post it for me? I'll send it to you if you write me at e-mail link below.
Thanks.
From the DNC:
We are on track for historic turnout in this election. America is coming out in record numbers for John Kerry.
And that has the Republicans scared. They have no plan, no hope, no way to win this election except to stop people from voting. Their strategy is simple:
1. Discourage Democratic voters from going to the polls by filling the airwaves with predictions of doom and gloom.
2. Delay voting and create lines at polls by challenging voters and election officials.
3. Deny voters the opportunity to cast their votes and have them counted.
But their strategy won't work. We will stop their attempts to deny our rights by using the best weapons in our arsenal: information and education.
It's vital that you know your voting rights. Take a minute today to make sure that others know their rights, too. Download our guide to voting rights:
http://www.democrats.org/votingrights/
Make sure to print out multiple copies and help us spread the word by distributing them as widely as you can.
For information about finding your polling place, use our polling place locator at Democrats.org:
http://www.democrats.org/
Remember: Voting is your right, and you are protected under the law. Exercise your right by voting for John Kerry, John Edwards, and all our Democratic candidates on November 2!
Jeremiah Elias should really fuck off now, imho.
Isn't McCain now making the war longer and increasing the suffering of the troops by supporting a BONEHEAD who doesn't give a flying fuck whether they EVER get out of the prison of their service?
When is McCain going to meet with AQ to discuss them doing some more 'work' for Bush???
After all, ANYTHING for the Ripoff, eh JM?
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If you call someone a "little fuckstain.. What's wrong with being a "fuckstain?" Some of my best friends are "fuckstains!!"
Good Christ, Kevin Costner on "Bill Maher." Kevin, please, just go make a sequel to "Waterworld" or something, and STFU..
http://
www.whatreallyhappened.co...osamatape2.html
Check out this site-kind of makes you wonder
So, does President Kerry appoint McCain to his cabinet? State and defense would be the only thing he'd consider and frankly I don't want him to get either of those.
Does Kerry appoint any repugnants? Any senators left who aren't hide abound wingnuts?
Re: The OBL Tape
I think this will hurt Bush. People ARE scared about terrorism, and the tape DOES remind them of it - but the "undecideds" who usually break against the incumbent are going to see this tape and say, "Do I want to be seeing this OBL guy on my TV for the next 4 years? Let´s give the new guy a chance."
Just read this on yahoo news:
"'Americans go to the polls at a time of war and ongoing threats unlike any we have faced before,' Bush said."
"In response to the videotape, the Bush administration warned state and local officials that the tape may be intended to promote or signal an attack on the United States."
The guy is a such a transparently m---er f---ing liar and opportunist. He probably can't believe the gullibility of the American voter himself. This whole terror thing is a great big diversion frrom his miserably failed "presidency". The tape was the October Surprise.
So why are we surprised, we expected it?
I fear for the election. The only resolution I see is that the nation divide. A Democrat or Green in the north and a redneck Republican in the south. Everybody to your side and no more contact.
The Kerry campaign should make sure everybody knows about the Bush campaign official calling the Bin Laden tape his "little gift" to Bush. The Kerry campaign should point out how SICK it is that anybody would consider any gesture from that murderer to be "a gift."
What Vic Jang said.
Dave: The ruth will come out, and I will live to see every moronic brownshirt fuck responsible for the events that day hung by their balls.
Then we start on the collaborators...
Heh... I like that word, "collaborators"...
Jeremiah - I´ve never seen your posts before today, but you sound like (a) a nice guy who´s tried to help the Dems and (b) a person who sure knows how to antagonize other people.
I think it´s great that you´ve written letters and you´re going to be a poll-watcher. But politics is about making alliances. You need to guard against the tendency towards factionalism so common on the left. Talk up your own work and ideas - but don´t attack other people here, that´s just going to cause division and also make your own ideas look less credible.
God, I miss Clinton.
Those bastards who tried to run him out will not get within spitting distance of President Kerry. That I have sworn to myself.
"But if there's another 1918, well, it will make 9/11 look like nothing.
SWR"
Ridiculous scaremongering. There hasn't been an epidemic like 1918 for reasons that have NOTHING to do with flu vaccination.
Drum is showing us all why he was offered a job with the Man. KD is showing himself to be a triviality, a can of dog food that types.
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"So, don't give me your shit, your uninformed Johnny-come-lately. 'Cause you don't know what HELL you are talking about.
Jeremiah Elias"
If you think, JE, trollbait, that the Dem party controls the money that poured into SecState and Country registrars with those R voting machines, you are the stupid one.
If you think that democracy under the corruption we have currently is easy, you are the stupid one.
If you think that you're not going to have to fight, instead of just complain, you're the stupid one.
Based on your past whining and accusatory distance from the actual sweat of these changes, I'd say you are the stupid one.
Tena, that's a fighter. You...noise box.
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Stencil -
NO. McCain. Gets. NOTHING.
I don't see how McCain can redeem himself after his behavior of the past several months. Old guy is washed up, I guess. Formerly distinguished senator. Pathetic.
Also, I have to add that the (small) group decision to jump all over Jeremiah makes them look pretty silly -- in my eyes, anyway -- and overreactive, more so than Jeremiah who made some good points. Puh-lease....
Everyone on every left-leaning blog ought to be very careful of persons who appear to be Dems, yet who are sowing discord. Could be operatives attempting a last stunt to try to create division.
KOS has some internals on the Bin Laden video. Survey Research Methods 101
You seem to be mis-using the word "celebrate". What you saw in that article was "optimistic opinion". In the absense of charing, high-fiving, or statement like "we are so happy that OBL is alive", the word "celebrate" doesn't properly apply here.
Oh, I'm on Eschaton. Sorry. I was thinking I was on some other sight where they might not want to lie about other people.
Oh, deaniac instead of a naderite.
My bad.
Maybe not-Jenna has discovered Dad's old coke stash? That might explain the crazy eyes.
I suppose this makes sense, sort of, considering the theory that the right-wing needs boogy-men to keep us all scared, and OBL will therefore stay on the loose so long as there's a GOP candidate who needs votes from idiots.
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