I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

GravatarWe missed you, Atrios! Whew, do I ever have a lot more respect for you than I ever did before!


Gravatarwho?


GravatarWhatever you're drinking, I want some...


Gravatarjeez, tonight's depressing news is that Iris Chang, who wrote about the Japanese atrocities in China during World War II, has committed suicide.
Hecate, good job getting rid of that moronic troll.


GravatarOut and about,

Atrios is the troll-slayer.


GravatarAt this point, the DNC would be lucky to get Pee Wee Herman. Sadly, from what I recall, Pee Wee was far more assertive and convicted in his beliefs than many current Democratis leaders.


GravatarHmmm...WWII, and Atrios, like McCarther, returns.

And what was DC all about, pray tell. Anything 'good' coming?


Gravatarsorry,
Iris Chang


GravatarARRGH. it's irischang.net


Gravatar"At this point, the DNC would be lucky to get Pee Wee Herman."

Haha...I can see it now: Democrats, the pro-smut film masturbator's party.


GravatarGood job Hecate,you had some marvelous insights.



Now watch this drive.



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GravatarWell, Hecate, good job anyway. My apologies for accidentally junking up the postings with my html errors on Iris Chang. The news is very upsetting--she did marvelous, gut-wrenching work and it appears the horrors of it all may have been a factor in her suicide. I'll stop now.


GravatarGilliard pens a letter to liberals.

As always, spot on...


GravatarI saw some guy on c-span who reminded me somewhat of PeeWee. Little guy who they said was the president of the DNC. Talking about what we did wrong. Speak for yourself, Pee wee.


GravatarLooks like "someone's" back...


GravatarNo! Pee Wee Herman is a DLC shill, a marionette for master puppeteer Al From. They want once again to impose their "Playhouse" of moving to the center, abandoning core progressive values, talking chairs, and losing elections on the tattered remains of the Democratic Party.

We need a forward thinking children's show host, not some tired hack from the late '80s. I suggest Steve from Blue's Clues, who has no doubt been regretting his retirement and looking to get active in promoting Lakoff's principles of reframing and felt talking household objects.

-- Stu


GravatarA-Man,

Could you please ban this annoying piece o' shite?


GravatarArafat.

R.I.P.


GravatarI want Captain Kangaroo, because he's a Captain.

And there's a war on.


GravatarWow, that was quick.

Thanks!


GravatarHuh?

I thought the current occupant of the White House was also responsible for Pee Wee's Funhouse...

Whodathot...


GravatarGood day: Atrios is back, and Arafat has left the room. (It's true this time. Arafat died at 3:30 a.m. Paris time.)


GravatarDamn, that's horrible news about Iris Chang. In case people don't know about her story, she was continuously harassed by right-wing Japanese wingnuts, obviously they drove her to this terrible end.


Gravatarhas no one else said it?

--at long last a DNC leader we'll know has balls.


GravatarArafat.

R.I.P.


Rot in pieces.


GravatarThis Week in PLO
Welcome to the PLO. The Dictator's now cold, the First Lady, Sura, is like Imelda Marcos on methamphetimine, the jihadists are revolting ... and Michael Savage just got the role of his lifetime. The Near-East Division of the CIA, drawing an eerie parallel between the lesser-known Richard Dreyfuss movie, Moon Over Parador, have cast the ultra-conservative talk show host as the now deceased militant's body double until the Israelis can find a malleable replacement for lasting peace on the West Bank and Gaza.


GravatarDespite what you may have heard, major military operations in Iraq have ended.


GravatarThanks, Hecate.

Welcome back, Atrios.


GravatarI love Bill McClellan. He speaks for many of us blue in a red state. He should get more recognition.
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday...e+as+one& tetl=1


GravatarJapanese rightists--overlapping and partially indistinguishable from the yakuza--are deeply shitty. They harassed the hell out of the Iraqi hostages when they got back to Japan, to the point that they said they were treated better in Iraq (and they had been threatened in Iraq with immolation).


GravatarYou mean, The Penguin? You mean the man of 7 appellations--Paul Reuben, Paul Reubenfield, Paul Reubens, Paul Rubenfeld, Paul Rubens, Pee-Wee Herman, Paul Rubenfield? On the bright side, he has a name for every day of the weeek.


GravatarThey should bury him in Tunisia.


GravatarIf Paul Reubens wants to be DNC chairperson, I say captain carl can be our Karl Rove .. they're both cartoons as best as I can tell.

but how do we get past that little problem with Pee-Wee in the porno theater?????


Gravatarbut how do we get past that little problem with Pee-Wee in the porno theater?????

When things get hard, Pee Wee can always get himself off.


Gravatardang ... i loved Pee-Wee's playhouse a great deal, but having him on Meet The Press and all i can think of is "where's miss yvonne?" running through my head ....

wait a minute ... didn't Reagan make movies with a chimp?


GravatarI thought Steve Gilliard's post was utter horseshit. What patronizing crap. This is crisis time for many of us. How dare he tell us to "shut the fuck up."
Nerves are raw. Lives, work, and plans are being evaluated almost hourly for many. This ain't bean bag.
I found myself listening and taking notes to a radio show about growing your own food and how to harvest seeds. We're putting in solar.
Yeah. I'm nuts.
But so are the guys in charge, and they've got the steering wheel.


GravatarHaha...I can see it now: Democrats, the pro-smut film masturbator's party.

From what I see in the True North, that's already what the Republicans say anyway. I'd say go for it.

You know what one of the biggest moneymakers for hotels is? PPV porn in the rooms. I'd say that next election cycle, you guys should purchase some advertising time. "The Republicans want to take away your right to watch this. Vote Democrat! Just remember to wash your hands first."


GravatarIris Chang. that totally sucks.

why didn't someone (agent/hubby/etc) have the sense to tell her to stop working on history's horrors until she got better? sh*t. this totally sucks.

wonder if Bush reelection had anything to do with it....wonder how quickly suicide statistics come available...

maybe we all need to make sure our fellow lib friends are all doing ok right now...


Gravatarthanks stinkyfeet. I'm traumatized by all this 'shut the fuck up' macho trashtalk. I hear enough from the office of the prez.


GravatarLet me barge in here for a minute and ask the thread a question.


Has anyone heard of a treaty being considered by the nations of the Americas called the Free Trade Area of the Americas?AKA ...FTAA.

If you have not,or are unclear of the ramifications,I would urge you to read This article.

THere is way to much information in the article to excerpt any of it.

I might take a liberty to the story and tell you that the author is trying to make the case that our government is in the orocess of the eventual decriminalisation of coca and cannabis to allow the major multinatioinal companies to profit from the drug trade.Apparently we give Colombia 1.7 billion dollars on military aid.

one excerpt.


Until now, the failure of the drug war doctrine [4] in Latin America has cost American taxpayers around $17 billion US dollars per year, a figure that corresponds approximately to the needs of the U.S. weapons industry –


THere is much that is very secret about the negotiations involved in this deal.Also,in Miami last year or the year before there was rioting going on over this very subject.

If we leave off our tinfoil hats and just deal with the other implicatioins of this trade deal,we realise that it is a huge net negative for the people of south and central America,as it faors multinational corporations over any individual or government.

Anytway.THis trade deal has been in the back of my mind,so when I saw it,I remembered how dreadful I feel over its passage in the newly Man-dated congress we now face.

This may be one of those times when it is imparative to stand up for not only us as a people of the U.S.,but also to think of those poor people in the poor countries of wich will be so negativly impacted and yet have no say in this deal.

Sorry for the long post,but it is one of those issues that is not covered in by our press,in fact I am not sure I have ever seen it mentioned in any print or television articles,only online have I seen anything about it.This story needs to be soread more than it has.THis congress will most certainly pass it if it is not even heard about,other than its mention on teevee that it passed.


Again,sorry for the long post,I will give up on it now.


GravatarRest in peace Iris Chang. Everybody who hates assholes will always love people like you.


GravatarIs Arafat going to stay dead this time?


GravatarHecate, great job.

I love the "American Virtues" thing.

I may steal it, but only because I love it so.

A.


GravatarAnd if I could type I might be able to be a little more coherent.


GravatarI think Pee Wee is a republican.


GravatarHow dare he tell us to "shut the fuck up."

Notice how you concentrate on the "shut up" part and ignore the "and get to work" portion.

If you're not part of the solution...


GravatarMy entirely rigid tool is more likely to head the DNC than Paul Reubens.
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GravatarYeah dave, thanks for those encouraging words.
Yeah, I'm just not quite working hard enough. That's the problem. If people like me would just "shut the fuck up," then we could get on with the orderly continuation of the Bush regime.


Gravatar... thanks for those encouraging words.

They weren't meant to be encouraging for you.

You're doing something? Great. Shut up and do some more.


GravatarI'm having problems understanding this so please bear with me, and perhaps you can offer me your insight.

I find that often, people who are liberators or heroes often go against their nature when they come into power, and use the people they had helped so much.

I'm not talking about megalomaniacs who continue to be megalomaniacs once they lose power, but there seems to be some sort of on/off switch on the idealism once power is attained on people such as Arafat, Castro, hell, even the ex-mayor of Montreal, Jean Drapeau who went from crusading idealist cleaning up a corrupt city to corrupt despot.

I don't understand it. How can people have such personality changes?

Arafat dedicated his life to the Palestinian cause but robbed his people blind.

How can that be? What is it? Feeling entitled or something other motivation? Somebody give me a clue here.


Gravatarif it is true, requiescat in pacem, iris chang.

i don't pretend to know what drove you over the edge. but having been an early westerner into nanjing in the 80's, knowing of what the japanese did to the chinese, i could see that your viewing amerika doing the same thing in iraq might drive you over the edge.

it is coming close to driving me over the edge.

it should be driving the entirety of this country over the edge. that it isn't is the most chilling aspect of this modern world. no abortions, but please let us murder live children. and there it is - the zest that the right has for real life.

falujah is guernica. we are the condor legion.

and george bush is ah? or ff? and karl rove is albert speer? or josef goebbels? or an even lesser critter? and john kerry, what kind of humanitarian was he? did you ever hear him denounce the murdering of iraqi noncombatants. i never did. just another shill for state-sanctioned homicide.

i trust that it is a better place iris. the living can never know. might even be worse. that is my fear.

so it goes.

sic semper tyrannis.


Gravatarand stinky,

you are getting it right about gilliard. without the protection of markos zuniga, most would be labeling him a fascist.

in my experience, he tolerates no objections to his pontifications. even when they are very wrong and wrong-headed. and if he can find a way to exploit his insider relationship with zuniga, he will punch the buttons to ban you from the site.

a very undemocratic guy. i care to label him the luca brazzi of the supposedly progressives.

the question is, is he a free-lance or is he a directed hit man?

surely, markos zuniga has no objections to his mean and undemocratic efforts. but, i experienced those efforts on zuniga's site, and i have to concede that the owner of the blog has the right to be as censorious as george walker bush, john ashcroft, and now, alberto.

but you got it accurately, steve gilliard is mostly full of shit.


GravatarAlbert, the Museum of Natural History called. They want to know if you'll donate your body for their upcoming exhibit on Trotskyite fossils.


GravatarNominating Pee-Wee is the first step to get porn back on the national debate. Porn would be the perfect wedge issue to split up the fundies and the moderates vote for R's. If we can convince the moderates that the fundies want to take their porn, we can force the R's to either alienate their fundy base by not following through or piss off the mods by trying to take their porn.

PORN IN 08!


GravatarYEAH, we trotskyites love the smell of napalm in the morning. not.

we love the idea of murdering thousands of noncombatants. not.

we love the idea of demfascists and repfascists cooperating to use napalm in iraq, to use depleted uranium, to turn iraq into a countrywide freefire zone, to use cbw agents against noncombatants.

oh yes, we trotskyites love those homicidal tactics. NOT THIS ONE.

AND NONE OTHERS THAT I KNOW.

i want to reiterate that my complaint is why the kerrys and the dnc give the defense of life role to the repfascists. i don't give a rat's ass about the viability of a fetus. what i care about is defending the lives of those already born.

and that was a slam-dunk for the kerry campaign. but it wasn't used. and you know why it wasn't used...the polling showed that the amerikans supported the murdering of iraqis, to oppose that homicial mania of the usg was a certain loser at the ballot box.

that is what the shrum said. and that was the line at the boners' shrine in new haven.

and that was the immoral precept that governed the kerry campaign. shorthand, george walker bush wants to kill iraqis incompetently - i propose to kill them more competently.

wouldn't surprise me that iris chang, contemplating this startling moral difference, decide to terminate her existence.

and by the way old hat, you do know why it was that old joe had leon assassinated in mexico, don't you?

the stalin assassins put an icepick into leon because he was in the process of writing a history of the fraud and the homicidal monster that was josef stalin.

i am proud to be labeled a trotskyite for my efforts to relate the history of the monsters governing the united states of amerika.

and when i expire, i would be honored to be enshrined somewhere. along with my library on amerikan history.

but not the museum of natural history. they have gotten so much so wrong over the years. just study their mistakes re prehistoric animals.

you know old hat, i think that your brain is older, much more wizened, than mine.

apologise for saying it, but f*ck you, old hat.

you don't know enough to insult me with impunity.

care to sing the marsellaise? i do. can you hear it?


GravatarHey, Old Hat - the Republican Apologist Roadshow called - their parrot died. They want you to come and fill in since you have all their best stuff memorized. The theme this week is, "The Evils of Socialized Medicine!" Oooh - sounds spooky!


GravatarAncient Tam - "Socialised medicine?"
Isn't that where government and big pharmaceutical corporations and big HMOs get together and write legislation that tries to control the market for distribution of drugs? Like the Medicare bill passed by the Busheviks?

It's a good thing the Freepers are too dim to realise that they've let the Leninist vanguard in the front door. (What was that episode of Buffy the Vampire Slayer? Vampires can only enter your house if you invite them in?)


Gravatarhey,

when Marty Peretz slags you as an empty suit on the WSJ's "Opinion" "page" you know this "party" is ripe for the pickings,

why, o why, can't the Catholic Workers figure that out ?


GravatarIris Chang probably read Adam Yoshida's 'comfort women' screed and decided that mankind is incapable of learning and goodness.


GravatarNotable suicides this week.

The feeling of despair is pretty high everywhere where people who know fascism live.

Fascism: it can't be "isolated"...it is a virus that spreads easily. "Me, myself and I" is the core value of this disease and those who yell, "Jesus loves ME" are of course, very sick since they have no way of knowing what Jesus feels. If they said, "I will give up my spot in heaven to save a sinner" then they are like Jesus.

But most, I would say, virtally all, want to go to Heaven forever and if Jesus asks them, will you willingly give up Heaven voluntarily so that your neighbor goes instead, you can bet, they will recoil in horror. Oh no, put ME in Heaven!

Well...this is exactly the test. Jesus probably sits at the Gates of Heaven and each comes and tries to convince him they belong there. And he asks this question. If the answer is "I go to Heaven, ship that person to hell" they go to hell.

For hell is the place filled with self righteous people who hate each other and want only to be loved, they alone. Ie: a bunch of very self centered people. Yuck.

The antichrist: Bush is that person for he and only he can kill most living things on earth. No other person can kill all or most living things, the cockroaches might evade his mighty nuclear sword.

Bush: spent $600 million last year BUILDING NUCLEAR BOMB SHELTERS for him and his drinking buds. Think about this. He is madly preparing for WWIII.


GravatarPorn would be the perfect wedge issue to split up the fundies and the moderates vote for R's.

I heard a deluded soul on a call in the other day gassing on about this is the reason she voted for the Republicans, the smuttiness of our media. So she voted for the party of Smut kingpin, Rupert Merdoch. That's how is should be spelled, considering. Notice how the Republicans have sort of fogotten about cleaning up TV (J.J.'s teat not withstanding) since they imported Rupert.

"Free speech" such a flexible tool. Can mean just about anything.


GravatarMade you look!


GravatarWell, now the US/UK get to invent new excuses for the peace process not going forward now that their number one scapegoat is dead.


Gravataras long as we're all having a laugh, check out the very funny Lennon Report:

http://lennonreport.blogspot.com

Today he takes on Zell Miller, Ashcroft's tenure, and Allawi's family problems.

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Atriooooooooooos...

It was unclear why you took down the comments last weekend (out of frustration over... ?). Is it linkwhoring? If so, let us know...


Gravatar Altanmia and Halliburton scandals- Marvin Bush was a boarbmember recently or a front end purchaser for them... Looks to this voter like Colin Powell is now leaking away!

Burn baby burn Bushco will go down, Powell is trying to salvage his name!


Gravatarchampion that guernercia painting to arabic language and high pinging aks and m-16s

Great to remind uf of that pic. Hemingway was a hanger-on to that scene...

Perhaps when Kerry returns to Ketchum he'll solace over cliffside views and think of people dying in similar fashion.


GravatarAs far as the election goes, you all should just SHUT UP!!!

We won, so SHUT UP!!!


GravatarPee Wee Herman? Head of the DNC? Well, looks the the Democrats are finally trying to get more macho.


GravatarPeople with concerns about election fraud should just SHUT UP!! Damned whiny liberals...


GravatarI would nominate Randy for secretary of defense. Nobody would screw with you guys. Just keep that squealy bird Pterry away from the press.


GravatarI thought it would be Woody Allen.


GravatarYou remember what Jeffrey Dahmer said to Pee-Wee Herman right?


Gravatarwtfwjd?
you tell me what he said to pee wee and i'll tell you what he said to loreena bobbit.


GravatarWill Pee Wee nominate Globy, Chairy, Clocky, Pterry, Miss Yvonne, Cowboy Curtis, the King of Cartoons, Randy, Mr. Window, the Cowntess, Mrs. Steve, Reba the Mail Lady, Jambi and Captain Carl to prominent positions within the government?


GravatarI read the Rape of Nanking last winter. With that post about that Canadian asshole Adam whatshisname it was all I could think about.

The world is too shitty for sensitive people like her and many of us. We must not let the fascists win.


GravatarHe should hold "voluntary" prayer meetings where all present are forced to chant, "Mekka lekka hi mekka hynie ho."


GravatarHe should hold "voluntary" prayer meetings where all present are forced to chant, "Mekka lekka hi mekka hynie ho."


Gravataroops...sorry...I know beter than to double post. I really do. I throw myself on the mercy of the Atrios community.


GravatarWecome back, Atrios. Hecate did wonderful job - one of the best subs ever


GravatarAnyone having trouble posting to Haloscan via Safari?


GravatarWecome back, Atrios. Hecate did wonderful job - one of the best subs ever
Tena


I tend to think of Hecate as more of a dom, don't you?


GravatarI love Pee-Wee. His show was great. I still am really angry about what they did to him.


GravatarPee-Wee would be a marked improvement over what we now have.


GravatarYou remember what Jeffrey Dahmer said to Pee-Wee Herman right?

"You really shouldn't play with your food."


GravatarFWIW: The Internet Movie Database claims he was honorably discharged from the
marine corps!


GravatarPee Wee couldn't do worse that Terry did


GravatarWant to do something about it??

Check out: http://www.thepop.org/

and start talking to the world that you're dominating.


Gravatar"You really shouldn't play with your food."
wtfwjd? | Email | Homepage | 11.11.04 - 11:34 am | #
well, it's about time. and as dahmer said to bobbit "are you gonna eat that?"


GravatarPeeWee? What better man to take matters into his own hands and firm up the Democratic base. He can take what little he has been given and manipulate and caress it into a new and monolithic party, standing proud and tall... reaching to the sky, to the heavens with confidence anew, waiting for that moment when all the good democratic soldiers who've been hiding away emerge to cover America with a ubiquitous and pungent shot of adrenalin.


GravatarI'm pretty sure Steve from Blues Clues killed himself, too.


GravatarWhy do some people spell America with a 'k'? I mean, when they're writing in English. Obviously, in other languages, that would be correct. But what criticism of the United States does it convey to say "Amerika"?


GravatarK= Soviet style repression.


GravatarThere's an African Studies prof who uses deliberate misspelling to raise conciousness of the inaccuracy of taken-for-granted labels.


GravatarPlenty,
Yea, my post just diappeared when I tried to submit it yesterday.


GravatarHowever.... Pee Wee is Straight.
He prefers movies about Female Nurses,
whereas I heard tell that the future RNC Chairman prefers the other kind.

..


GravatarReports of atrios' demise have been greatly exaggerated...


GravatarI don't know if the dickless Democrats could handle a leader with as much balls as pee wee has.
Ever So Sincerely,
MLL


Gravatarsteve gilliard.

0 overrated
0 overbearing
0 pompous
X all of the above


GravatarDNC Rapid Response talking points from Chairman Pee Wee Herman:

I know you are, but what am I?


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