I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
You have got to be kidding me
wooohooo
And which will be the last to die for a mistake?
Cheney taken to hospital for "shortness of breath." See CNN.
It would be nice if we had a press corps that asked these questions, rather than having to wonder aloud on a freaking blog.
Are Pentagon correspondents bigger ass kissers than White House correspondents?
...
Bush Supports Disabled Veterans That's why he's making so many of them.
I like the military mind!
"Jackie Spinner, the Washington Post embed with the Marines in Fallujah, said ... on Thursday: "No one I've talked to believes that solving the Fallujah problem will end the violence in Iraq. But, as one Marine office told me, not solving the Fallujah problem will not end it either." (from the linked article)
More brain damaged Americans means more votes for Jeb in '08.
Are Pentagon correspondents bigger ass kissers than White House correspondents?
Are you thinking what I'm thinking?
Embedded reporters at our main
European patchemupquickbeforetheydie and ship them stateside medical facility. Color me suprised.
Why did we destroy the one hospital and accupy the other hospital, before Fallujahpallooza War Porn III started up? Can't have those civilian casualties used as propaganda.
I apologize for the snark, but I'd have to hit some things otherwise.
Atrios,
All I know is that my friend at Walter Reed says she's seeing injuries like she's never seen before and that the press just won't cover it. Lots of amputees just like Max Cleland, both men and women. But if we ignore them, I guess they don't exist.
Yeah...
I don't really want to know. I don't need to. I've already been depressed by both the loss of the election, the sight of so many men and women dying for nothing but the whims of a few deluded people, and I don't want to see it cause should those who support this war see it their delusions about the administration and their ideology insist that they will merely deny the truth about what they were seeing. Such denial would only encourage more depression on my part and I don't want to be depressed. It affects me and it affects my family. When it affects my family I get defensive. When I get defensive about my family nobody in my way is safe.
And that is the simple truth of it all.
Don't mess with a man's family.
MYOB'
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Creative Election Protest idea #32
When visiting the doctors office-carry a few slips of paper saying
*Bush stole the election-Spread the word*
Drop these slips into a few of the magazines you read while waiting
- the word will spread - the protest will spread.
"No one I've talked to believes that solving the Fallujah problem will end the violence in Iraq. But, as one Marine office told me, not solving the Fallujah problem will not end it either."
Military logic. Oy.
Cheney taken to hospital for "shortness of breath." See CNN.
cls
Wouldn't that be Bush's ultimate nightmare? Cheney's death would mean Bush would have to actually function as the chief executive!
the answer is one or more, thus...this war is a big fucking mistake. What a bunch of fucking assholes, sending people to die for their politics.
Sweet Sue,
I almost shot raisin bran through my nose. Thanks 
"No one I've talked to believes that solving the Fallujah problem will end the violence in Iraq. But, as one Marine office told me, not solving the Fallujah problem will not end it either."
I'm pretty sure that's the definition of a military Q-U-A-G-M-I-R-E.
I'm sure the devil's keeping Cheney's seat warm. Pour a little oil on the fire.
ABC Newsnight did a show back in late Sept. or early Oct. on the LARGE number of troops coming home with serious brain damage (kevlar vests protecting the torso, so that what used to kill a soldier doesn't kill him anymore, but severe impacts leaving them with brain damage).
My recollection is that something like 60% (!) of the wounded have moderate to severe brain damage. A hugely under-reported story here in George's Happyland.
david brooks on cspan2. oy.
Mr Ubi saw Chimpy give some statement on TV after visiting war wounded at Walter Reed a couple days ago. The camera panned over to Mrs Chimp in the background, and she looked like she was gonna cry. WELL YOU OUGHTA FUCKIN' CRY BITCH! LOOK WHAT YOUR HUSBAND DID!
Cheney gets flown to French hospital. Wife follows and keeps neo-cons away. Rumors swirl that Cheney personally controls billions. Dies. Body shipped back to D.C. for funeral. Millions of fundies ululate in streets.
Wouldn't that be Bush's ultimate nightmare? Cheney's death would mean Bush would have to actually function as the chief executive!
Sweet Sue
I hate to say it, but I would be happy if Cheney died or were incapacitated. This is the man who suppresses Dubya's ocassional decent impulse.
Check out the thread below. I'm really pissing off those liberal fags.
i'm told most of the wounded ferried into Landstuhl will have traumatic brain injury from which they will be unlikely to recover, body armor prevent a lot of gut wounds.
This is the man who suppresses Dubya's ocassional decent impulse.
uhhhhhh... what would THAT be?
Body shipped back to D.C. for funeral.
I hope so because I'd have to have to go all the way to Wyoming to piss on his grave.
All of the women on this blog probably have the hairiest crotches. Liberals need a lesson in hygiene.
I have a feeling the Gov't isn't going to be very forthcoming with the statistics you want, Atrios. Hell, it's a wonder there's not a news blockade of Landstuhl.
NO TROLL SATURDAY!! Who's with me?
Pathetic fucking bastards. How could any of the whores call themselves journalist? This pisses me off to such an extent there are not words to describe. I hope bushs so called god makes it possible for everyone who voted for him to meet the same fate as the injured in Iraq. If OBL is looking for some good targets, there is a big white house I know of.
Just ignore him.
Yeah, just ignore him.
The full extent of the wounded will not be known for years, not until homeless amputees dressed in ragged fatigues start panhandling in front of 7-11s.
And, speaking of Cheney's health, I'm still wondering why Lame Ducky didn't have his annual physical.
Lame Ducky was to busy protecting your sorry asses
hecate, I forgot all about that. Hmmmmm... what's going on?
And, speaking of Cheney's health, I'm still wondering why Lame Ducky didn't have his annual physical.
He's more machine now, than man, twisted and evil.
You know what is funny.... A Braindamaged troll coming to this blog to piss people off. Let him talk to himself, lets see how far a retard will go to get attention.
I hope Alberto Gonzales arrests all of you.
NO TROLL SATURDAY!! Who's with me?
We're with you, Doozer.
If Bush totally ignore the reality of Fallujah, we sure as hell can totally ignore the occasional whiff of sewer here.
"Check out the thread below. I'm really pissing off those liberal fags.
Trevor Webb"
Uh, yeah, I'll get right on that...
semper ubi,
I'm still not sure why he wouldn't take his physical, but I'm sure it's not because he's such a specimen of good health. Seems like now is a good time for some enterprising young reporter to ask a few questions -- naaah, what am I thinking?
MYOB, I like your attitude. I've been trying to figure out a way to disconnect from it but still know what's going on and I think I'm going to adopt your method.
Uh, yeah, I'll get right on that...
If you can spare a moment from looking at gay porn
Sometimes I like to pleasure myself while trolling, and this morning managed to get some spunk on my computer monitor. Does anyone here know a good method for cleaning it off?
I'm still not sure why he wouldn't take his physical, but I'm sure it's not because he's such a specimen of good health.
You know, it doesn't seem fair. They require drug testing to work at Home Depot but not to work in the Oval Office.
Sometimes I like to pleasure myself while trolling, and this morning managed to get some spunk on my computer monitor. Does anyone here know a good method for cleaning it off?
I'm sure plenty of people here would be willing to lick it off.
Latest reports from Falluja relate typhoid outbreak.
Yeah, the Chimps got something wrong with him. When Clinton was up for reelection he got his physical done earlier, not later. 40 years of hard living can catch up to a guy.
President Hastart might be a step up though, until Delay chokes him to death.
Please ignore the fake Trevor Webb above. Everyone knows my dick is in a state of permanent and perpetual flaccidness, except of course when I'm reading the casualty reports from Iraq.
He's more machine now, than man, twisted and evil.
Obi Wan Kenobi
kinda like the Evil Genius in Space Truckers?
just ignore me
I'll stop trolling if you guys check out andrewsullivan.com
War on allies (see the Guardian)
Three British soldiers and an army interpreter are suing the American military after their vehicle was rammed by a US tank transporter in Iraq.
The $2.3m (£1.2m) suit is the first against the US army from coalition troops since the invasion of Iraq. It seeks to exploit provisions normally reserved for Iraqis claiming compensation for family members wrongfully killed in US raids.
The Britons, members of a Royal Military Police unit on duty with their Kuwaiti interpreter, suffered serious injuries on May 7 last year when their Land Rover was struck twice from behind by the hulking transporter.
The vehicle spun out of control and off the road, somersaulting into a sand dune. All four passengers were hurled out of the vehicle, and the Land Rover was wrecked.
Two of the Britons - the driver, Corporal Jane Mc-Lauchlan of Hartlepool, and her commanding officer and front seat passenger, Staff Sergeant James Rogerson - received lasting injuries.
Cpl McLauchlan suffered multiple skull fractures, and a punctured lung and liver. She still has some degree of permanent brain damage, including memory loss.
I keep hoping there is real significance in the fact of aWol skipping his physical. The last time he missed one, he was fixing to desert.
So if Cheney corks off, what happens? Georgie gets to hand out another political plum?
Hypothetically speaking, do you guys think it's normal when a grown 14 year-old likes to play with his own poopy, instead of you know, jacking off to Playboy and stuff?
I've been so immersed in the nightmare over the last 5 years that I've neglected every other aspect of my life. Now it seems the nightmare will continue but I can't be so engrossed in it anymore. I'm going to clean my house and start getting rid of anything not totally necessary along with other arrangements and plan to move on a moment's notice if need be.
Everyone knows my dick is in a state of permanent and perpetual flaccidness, except of course when I'm reading the casualty reports from Iraq.
Or thinking about tax cuts
konopelli - I am with you on that missed physical.
but of course, our sterling WH press corps isn't going to ask.
You know, it doesn't seem fair. I am going to kick the bucket without ever seeing another Democrat in the Oval Office.
It's gotta be a first, a Troll barges in through the back door to invite us to a party he is throwing, on a nearly defunct thread. LOL
I hate to say it but that is almost an elevation of the form to art.
that said, we should always follow the sage advice given upthread by Doozer among Fraggles.
And if you are incapable of helping yourself, talking around *it* may be more fun than direct interaction.
You know, it doesn't seem fair. I am going to kick the bucket without ever seeing another Democrat in the Oval Office.
all of us are
So if Cheney corks off, what happens? Georgie gets to hand out another political plum?
First they have to remove the deceased's hand from ... well, you know.
Tena:
Amendment XXV sez aWol picks whomsoever he pleases, but the appoinment must be confirmed by a simple majority of both Houses. Claigula could name, and certainly the supine Congress would approve, his horse (if he had one; but c'mon! get real! this is a guy who cant even stay on a bicycle)
did you guys go to andrewsullivan.com yet?
So if Cheney corks off, what happens? Georgie gets to hand out another political plum?
My God,
It really had not occured to me to consider who the man would tap as crachkart's successor.
Idea's anyone
restoration weekend. Man, what I wouldn't give to see a well placed suitcase nuke in Boca this weekend.
Anyone have Pat Robertson's number?
I used to be a legitimate poster on this thread, but then you guys kind of lost it and started suggesting that Dean should be DNC chair.
restoration weekend. Man, what I wouldn't give to see a well placed suitcase nuke in Boca this weekend.
I'm reporting you to the proper authorities.
The WH press whores are too busy sucking bushs dick to try and find out the reason he doesn't want to take his physical. They would require surgical interventin to get bush dick out of their mouths, and you know that really isn't an option.
I don't have any friends.
Lets start a two-part pool:
First, date and time he either a) croaks or b) resigns; second, his replacement.
I say he's off the ticket by Thanksgiving, and EITHER vonRumsfeldt or Condo-minimum Rice is heir designate...
I am going to kick the bucket without ever seeing another Democrat in the Oval Office.
Nah, I'll still be around in four years. Watching the republican party implode is too much fun.
'if they end up at Landstuhl, they're all used up and we no longer have any need for them'.
People in this country are insane or at least the insane ones are running things and there aren't any solutions which means things will continue to worsen. We've entered a time of insanity or something.
I work at Walmart, and love it.
Konopelli, can I come to your house for Thanksgiving?
My Mom says I'm special.
Nah, I'll still be around in four years. Watching the republican party implode is too much fun.
You like being totally dominated? Maybe I could come to your house instead for Thanksgiving, pie.
Did anyone read Brooks' collumn in the NYT today? He writes about the fued brewing between the CIA and the Bushistas. Course, Brooks takes Bush's side, but what kills me is he seems to think the CIA is beholden to candidates who "win elections". Those are his words, seriously.
Obviously, the guy don't know the CIA very well.
Can comeone suggest a different blog to irritate people on? You guys have the collective IQ of fecal matter.
Rice won't the VP replacement. They always travel seperately, just in case something bad happens to one of them. Chimp couldn't stand to be apart from her that often.
McCain? Sure, he had to be promised something to campaign for the ticket.
Tow
Cheney taken to hospital for "shortness of breath." See CNN.
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That SOB!
Konopelli - I think Condi is a good bet. The first woman VP and African American, too. Plus she's George's sometime wife. Why, that's the trifecta, right there.
except for Backslider, who is a true pimp.
Girls don't like me.
I hope before Cheney dies he puts in the order to shut down every blog except andrewsullivan.com
Girls don't like me ... they like semen on their faces.
Okay, so Atrios put a post up about it. So, yeah, apparently someone else saw it, too.
And I'm no "pimp". I'm much too cool for that.
Andrew Sullivan says I'm his special friend, but it's our secret.
I think Bush will pick the corpse of Reagan. You see, over the next four years, science will learn from religion, how to resurrect the dead. This will cement the 2008 election for Vice President Zombie Reagan.
Since he was resurrected, Zombie Reagan gets two more possible terms!
All Hail President Zombie Reagan!
My name is Talking Trevor, and all the mean posters here who made fun of me are going to be very very sorry.
My wife has friends in the VA system, dealing with mental health. Let's just say that Iraq is keeping them far too busy.
Good question - especially the way you framed it, REAL tena (I am assuming it is you because it looks like your CORRECT homepage and usual email address). Who knows what kind of "fruitcake" favor the smirking chimp would pull in if he was have the plum of VP to offer some repug sleazeball. Do you think he can find someone that will be able to put a stop to anyone examining voter patterns in exchange for being VP?
I thought Condi was going to resign at the end of this year. Powell, too. Haven't heard anything recently from either of them.
Do you think they knew this was coming?
I've also heard a rumor that Rumsfeld was going to resign, but this strikes me as really unlikely.
...cause I'm gonna tell my Mom on you.
I think Condi is a good bet. The first woman VP and African American, too. Plus she's George's sometime wife. Why, that's the trifecta, right there.
Interesting idea, REAL TENA, but I would think that his slave-state base would have a thing or 2 to say about that. It would be a great way for the repugs to try and save-face over their voter suppression of African Americans, but they really don't care what people that don't support them think. It could happen, however, I imagine Mrs. Chimp has a thing or 2 to say about it.
Yeah, that was me. It's getting harder to tell, I know.
I'm working on it.
"We've entered a time of insanity or something."
its the new dark age - better start boning up on the meaning of sun spot activity.
-
"Check out the thread below. I'm really pissing off those liberal fags.
Trevor Webb"
According to Merrian Websters there are four usages to the word 'fag'.
1. A poor or worn out end, remnant such as the untwisted end of a rope.
2. As a verb: To work hard, or toil, to tire by strenuous activity, exhaust. To wear out.
3. Cigarette
4. Faggot, (with no clear meaning but implied to mean someone who works too hard)
5. Toil or drudgery
Did you mean drudgery? Did you mean Matt Drudge? Are you saying that Matt Drudge is trolling the previous thread?
MYOB'
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Re: Repug sleazeball
There are several to choose from, but Newt Gingrich comes to mind.
It could happen, however, I imagine Mrs. Chimp has a thing or 2 to say about it.
Anonymous
Yeah, right. Like she's the kind of wife who'd really step in between her husband and his mistress.
Bush no longer has to pander to his basest base. The Family--with their Hitler connection still in evidence and still remembered--would like nothing better than to take credit as having appointed the first African-American female to national political leadership.
They've got a history to spin, you know.
The CIA is beholden to those who win elections? Why the hell is their budget so large? All they need is one guy with a typewriter, who calls up the White House and asks: "What do you want me to say today?"
Anyway.
Look, let me tell you, just you-to-me-wise, your not getting a true measure of fun out of current events if you're not reading "The Dark Valley"(a panorama of the 1930's) by Piers Brendon. (Knopf, NY, 2000)
It sure is fun to watch the advance of fascism, the economic failure, the social injustice, the failure of journalism, militarism, and the general disregard for truth, while going to the chapter of the book to see the roots of all of this in the 1930's. Makes for jolly bedtime reading.
ok, so maybe I'm too busy with one hand up my ass to figure how to link to my homepage, but won't begging help? 'cuz the RNC only pays me per pagehit. anyway, if i don't troll i might get drafted, and nothing scares a chickenshit--er, chickenhawk more than actually serving. libruls! all of you! *snicker*
I suggest reading Thom Hartmann's "Unequal Protection" a book about the history of Corp. personhood. Very eye opening.
I'm a bit late on this:
Cheney taken to hospital for "shortness of breath." See CNN.
cls
Wouldn't that be Bush's ultimate nightmare? Cheney's death would mean Bush would have to actually function as the chief executive!
Yes, but it would be the solution to the GOP's nightmare: Mary Cheney
Julie in Austin
Condi (or Powell) as VP. I dunno, maybe. I vascillitate between thinking the Bushistas will continue to pander to the base and push a radically conservative agenda, or they'll try to reign it in some this time around as a way of ensuring the Little King's "legacy". Frankly, I lean towards the latter. I've still yet to figure out why the GOPranos ran the Dim Son rather than the relatively competent Jeb (perhaps therein' lies the clue), but I do think the PNAC crowd is terribly interested in forming an empire and will try to stick around, "legacy" or no.
What does happen if Cheney croaks or becomes incapacitated? Does shrub appoint someone or is there a predetermined line as with the President?
if Cheney dies, we'll be following the course of the rise of Nazis almost to the letter. how better to push through new assaults on the populace than a high-profile assasination?
if Cheney dies, we'll be following the course of the rise of Nazis almost to the letter. how better to push through new assaults on the populace than a high-profile assasination?
Konopelli - I think it would be hard to pass up the chance of appointing the first woman VP and an African American one at that. I really do.
But I don't know that Cheney will resign - he likes being preznit.
The subject called "Trevor" who is posting insults on a thread about American combat casualties is like all psychopaths in that he has no ability to feel empathy for the suffering of others. This is a thread about war wounded...people losing limbs, disfigurement, nerve damage, and other horrible injuries. He chooses to pollute the thread with childish, vicious taunts showing that he lacks basic human decency. A very sad case.
OMG, if Rice is picked to be the replacement VP, would she run for prez in 08? Would the repubs want her running against Hillary?
Tow
Wasn't there an incident in 2000, before the Supreme Court case, involving Cheney having to go to the hospital? I'm not sure of the details, but I remember thinking at the time that he might have had another heart attack, and again I believe the claim was that it was the stress of the campaign that did it.
I'm almost willing to bet that it was in November, too.
It's grim, but I'd like to know how many single/double+ amputees have been created by this war? How many people blinded or made deaf? How many sentenced to a life in a wheelchair? How many with moderate or worse brain damage?
Now, now Atrios. A better question is how many fags won't be getting married because of the righteous Christian soldiers marching on Nov 2. Praise God!!
Get with the program, man.
Hilary running is such wild speculation that I refuse to even consider it right now. But if the Repugs thought running Rice would work for them, they'd do it.
I really don't imagine that by the time this 4 years is drawing to a close there are going to be many in this administration who would be considered electable.
What happens in 06 is going to have a lot to do with what happens thereafter.
Which is why we need to be working now on electing Democrats to Congress in 06.
Truman didn't have a vice president during his first term and the country managed to survive just fine. He only picked one for the election in 1948.
Wasn't there an incident in 2000, before the Supreme Court case, involving Cheney having to go to the hospital? I'm not sure of the details, but I remember thinking at the time that he might have had another heart attack, and again I believe the claim was that it was the stress of the campaign that did it.
I'm almost willing to bet that it was in November, too.
Nora
OhmiGod, Nora, you're absolutely right. Thanks for picking up this Sanford and Son hustle:
November 22, 2000
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Despite suffering "a very slight heart attack," Republican vice presidential candidate Dick Cheney said, "No doubt about my serving, all we have to do now is get elected."
[Fred Sanford holds his chest as if he's having a heart attack.]
Fred Sanford: Oh, this is the biggest one I ever had! You hear that Elizabeth? I'm coming to join you honey!
Just checked; he did have a heart attack in November, 2000.
Maybe someone was trying to tell him something then, too, and he didn't listen. Possibly this is the last call. Not that I would wish anything bad on Cheney; I want to see him alive and facing human justice for the things he's done.
Yes, Nora, there was.
"November 22, 2000 : With the presidential election hanging on a few hundred votes in Florida, Cheney checks into George Washington University Hospital with chest pains. Doctors insert a coronary stent to prop open a narrowed artery after what Cheney calls "a very slight heart attack." Doctors say Cheney should be able to resume all his normal activities."
CNN
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Tena...I agree Rictus Dick's fond of being Preznit. But last I heard, death trumps fondness pretty much all the time...I think resignation's the least of his worries at the moment (or at least I hope it is)...
Do you think Mary Cheney'd bring her SigO to the hospital for good-byes?
Do you think Mary Cheney'd bring her SigO to the hospital for good-byes
And openly flaunt her homosexuality in the face of good fundies everywhere? Dr. Dobson would have a heart attack himself. Hmmmm...
The 'Murkins don't want to worry their beautiful minds with images of wounded troops! Stop talking about it and everyone will forget.
The Other Washington, in some ways I think that's the scariest thing about this war: the way the media have gone along with the Administration's desire to keep all images of the dead and the wounded out of the public consciousness. It's as if they've all been turned into non persons, as if they never existed at all. It's so incredibly cynical, and the thing that breaks my heart is that none of our mass media went against that. Keep the bad pictures and the bad thoughts away from the nice Americans and they won't realize what's happening and they'll vote for their good masters -- and damn it, it seems to have worked.
Oh I know death trumps wishes. I just don't think he's going to die right now, either.
He's too fucking mean to die. He'll scare death to death.
I was just thinking about what happens to the energy of a bullet which is stopped by a kevlar vest. It's gotta go somewhere, there being laws of conservation of energy and laws of inertia at play here which even kevlar cannot negate. I'd imagine any organ--liver, kidneys, etc--directly in the line of the impact would just about be jellied by the force of the impact, wouldn't it?
just curious...we wore tin pots in the 60s
So, Trevor.
How's it feel to be a snarky little coward, the kind of person decent people despise and about whom entire literatures have been created so that normal people can say, "Yeah, I really think that kind of behavior is wrong"? Your life is a waste, and your parents would probably cast you out. How does that feel, exactly?
Did you watch "Private Ryan" the other night? Aren't you that pathetic loser, the guy who wandered around with all the ammo around his neck and caused the deaths of most of his comrades when they didn't have anything left to shoot, and who only shot one guy, an unarmed prisoner, even though lots of bad guys were right in front of him and he could have saved everybody? That's you, isn't it, Mr. Snarky? A Loser, capital L.
Please go away and die. Nobody cares about you, nobody wants you around, and we'll all be better off when you're gone. You and your gods, Dick Cheney and George W. Bush.
And that's hell, my friend, your worst nightmare made real.
there being laws of conservation of energy and laws of inertia at play here
Still living in the reality-based world I see. Georgie explained it all to one of the fundies: not going to be any casualties in Iraq.
Nora,
Don't forget the woman from Seattle who was fired from her job for taking photos of the troops caskets in the transport plane. And she wasn't a journalist, just a normal citizen! Pathetic.
When this is over (please hurry) and people see for themselves, everyday in their own communities, the wounded and maimed, it will be an ugly awakening.
Tow
"Why did we destroy the one hospital and accupy the other hospital, before Fallujahpallooza War Porn III started up?"
To show our resolve by beginning with a war crime.
Nora - a lot of that not knowing is because a lot of people willingly do not want to know. They've made that crystal clear. There are letters to the Dallas paper about just this very thing all the time.
There were people writing in defense of the affiliate here that refused to air Private Ryan (though they showed it in full last year for Veteran's Day - do they just forget everything from one moment to the next?) saying that all the blood and gore was inappropriate. There seems to be an neverending supply of fucktards who bitch any time the media mentions that people might actually be dying or getting injured in Iraq.
They don't want to know and they don't want anyone else to know. The only reason that I can fathom for this is that they realize that any knowledge of the real cost of a war will turn people against that war and, they fear, all wars. Some people just really like wars.
Seems like Trudeau could build this Landstuhl blackout and the brain injuries into the Doonesbury story line.
The media doesn't report it because many Americans don't want to face the deep shit we are in and reelecting Chimpy was just a way to prolong the denial.
Warning: Troll pollution is particularly noxious today. Wear your protective filters.
He's too fucking mean to die. He'll scare death to death.
Tena
You're right. And I think Nora hit the nail on the head by pointing out that Bush & posse pull this Sanford & Son "This is the big one; I'm coming to join you Elizabeth" hustle whenever things get really, really tight politically. Wonder what prompted this attention deflector: Iraq, or the stolen election buzz that keeps getting louder?
I was expecting more backlash for the showing of "Saving Private Ryan"
The movie seems particularly appropriate this year.
restoration weekend. Man, what I wouldn't give to see a well placed suitcase nuke in Boca this weekend.
No more of this. Let the surreality-based community traffic in poison.
"The full extent of the wounded will not be known for years, not until homeless amputees dressed in ragged fatigues start panhandling in front of 7-11s."
Which will be a great set for some street theatre. While you fish a fiver out of your pocket, an accomplice comes by seeking donations for Iraqi orphans. Write your own ending.
It's not a war crime if you've got moral clarity and vision. You can lie, torture, kill or commit genocide. Saddam awaits trial for doing exactly those things. Bush hasn't done the last one yet, but his gang is encouraging him to flatten Fallujah. And it appears he's on his way. But when he does, he'll be different from Saddam. Because he has (all together now): MORAL CLARITY AND VISION.
Ah yes, let's not forget all that D.U. over there. We have pretty much killed the Arab gene pool.
Back in the 80s, I lived in Kindsbach, which is a little town walking distance from Landstuhl. Used to hang out up there, drink beer, eat bratwurst, et cetera. It was casual.
I can only wonder what it must be like now, with all the blood and pain, and so many people there who understand the stupidity, futility and waste of it all.
So, how are we defining morality these days?
Morality, smorality. We live in the era of profits. Who wants morals when you can bride and cheat and threaten your way to profits!
It's the American Way!
oops bride= bribe
"So, how are we defining morality these days?"
With a dicktionary.
Pay attention to me
Trevor Webb,
for your info, I have a Brazilian wax. Want to come over and check it out?
millerdunwoody, ever eat at the Kaisereck in Einsiedlerhof (early 80's)? They used to serve the biggest snails with an excellent garlic sauce.
BTW, doesn't take an embed. Just have someone count the buses between Ramstein and the hill and figure about 15 per or more per full bus.
Where're yer legs that used to run?
Ha-roo, Ha-roo
Where're yer legs that used to run?
Ha-roo, Ha-roo
Where're yr legs that used to run
When first ya went ta carry a gun?
Indeed, yer dancin' days are done.
Ah . . . Johnnie,
I hardly knew ya.
'If you can spare a moment from looking at gay porn
Trevor Webb | Email | Homepage | 11.13.04 - 2:34 pm | # '
I like mandate.com myself.
Okay. This is where we are.
In fall of 2003, we were warned by our european allies that elections in Iraq had to be called, and pronto. The US lied and said it was impossible, that a census had to be done, they'd have to rewrite the iraqi constitution, etc. Instead the DoD went into Abu Ghraib mode and the Heritage Youth were sent to Baghad. Foot drag and foot drag until the Iraqis got really upset on April 6, 2004.
The US administration was stalling in order to provoke as much reaction to the occupation as possible, so they can go about the business of destroying Sunni cities--this being denied to the US and Britain by surrending Iraqi generals March 03.
The "Iraqi forces" now seem to be Kurdish militiamen. The US looks to be planning to finish off the Sunni. Thousands of them are homeless and camped out in the desert. As the Shia were not informed of the plan and thier reaction is unknown, Bush and Blair have also met to plan their interventions in the south.
Who knows what the reaction will be provoked in Damascus, Egypt or Saudi.
I assume that palms are suitably oiled .
Of course it might be better just to watch the west gate at Ramstein since LMRC isn't the only place they are sending people. Heard much earlier that they were using the out of the way local hospitals like Homburg to handle the overflow.
BREAKING NEWS:
Cheney proclaimed to not have had a heart attack. Cause of Mr. Cheney's pain was attributed indigestion. Possibly from his diet of fresh babies.
In further developments, it was reported that after a MRI, Mr. Cheney has no heart. Leading many to believe that he also must be lacking a soul.
Paging Mr. Cheney....PAging Mr. Cheney.... we had a meeting scheduled a couple of weeks ago..... time's up.
Is Halliburton scheduled to put new extensions on the hospitals? See? We ARE making progress! We are growing our capacity to treat severely wounded soldiers!
Reuters reports 22 minutes ago Cheney walked out of the hospital saying "I feel fine."
Not up to the requisite snarky comment which should follow here...
All you scumsucking ingrates think you're special and know more than eveyone else. But you're all a bunch of losers and last Tuesday proves it! And I do have a website, and it is where you'll find truth, which you wouldn't know anything about. Ha ha ha ha. I win!
At least he didn't make comments about chads when he got out of the hospital this time.
Damn this man.
makes me think of one of my favorite songs. by steeleye span back in the 70s....
What makes you go abroad fighting for strangers
When you could be safe at home free from all dangers?
A recruiting sergeant came our way
To an Inn nearby at the close of day
He said young Johnny you're a fine young man
Would you like to march along behind a military band,
With a scarlet coat and a big cocked hat,
And a musket at your shoulder,
The shilling he took and he kissed the book,
Oh poor Johnny what will happen to ya?
The recruiting sergeant marched away
From the Inn nearby at the break of day,
Johnny went too with half a ring
He was off to be a soldier he'd be fighting for the King
In a far off war in a far off land
To face a foreign soldier,
But how will you fare when there's lead in the air,
Oh poor Johnny what'll happen to ya?
What makes you go abroad fighting for strangers
When you could be safe at home free from all dangers?
The sun shone hot on a barren land
As a thin red line took a military stand,
There was sling shot, chain shot, grape shot too,
Swords and bayonets thrusting through,
Poor Johnny fell but the day was won
And the King is grateful to you
But your soldiering's done and they're sending you home,
Oh poor Johnny what have they done to ya?
They said he was a hero and not to grieve
Over two wooden pegs and empty sleeves,
They carried him home and set him down
With a military pension and a medal from the crown.
You haven't an arm and you haven't a leg,
The enemy nearly slew you,
You'll have to go out on the streets to beg,
Oh poor Johnny what have they done to ya?
What makes you go abroad fighting for strangers
When you could be safe at home free from all dangers?
WE may never know who has fallen injured in this "war." It's not in the Bush administration's best interests to tell the truth in this matter.
Hmmm..Einsiedlerhof.....Ramstein....Landstuhl.....
.seems like there a lot of products of 20 markstrasse posting here.
Cheney has survived again, like the supermacho he is. Despite producing a mutant.
We are going to start having Cheney alerts, since Ashcroft has resolved all the real terror problems.
Damn, when were you there? Viersichtmark Strasse as far as I know, and thats from late 70's. Annabelles' anyone?
1978-1982. Worked at "Erwin" and lived in Hohenecken.
Viersigmarks up to Schwanzigmarks....inflation, I guess.
Ahhhh Annabelle's.! The Vulcan battery that deployed in the parking lot during Alerts was known as the "PoofBatterien".
Nobody gets it. The dynasty demands:
Vice President Jeb Bush.
.
"Centers report traumatic brain injuries account for up to 20 percent of casualties for survivors"
from the AP
They don't allow ANY reporters at Landstuhl, I'm guessing... none from anywhere. Can't allow the sheeple to see double amputees...
Caramba!
I got picked on a lot at school.
Sorry, between German and English I can't spell in either language anymore. The half bottle or better of Brugal rum isn't helping. For those of you wondering, Deutcshesmark 40 street. It is what the local road from Kaiserslautern west to Landstuhl was known as (B40?) due to the price of the hookers standing out there. Annabelles' was the local "ladies of ill repute" house just off the road.
Once again, there really is no way to hide the casualties, the press simply doesn't care to report on them. They are whores and have no interest in giving you the news. They would much rather tell you how you don't understand their job (calling WhitehouseHo).
konopelli, i actually wondered about the same thing myself a while ago and asked around among people who would know. apparently, if you get hit while wearing a kevlar vest it will typically knock you over, hurt a lot, and leave a bigass bruise, but normally it won't do any permanent harm. that's what i have heard, anyway.
I think the brain injuries are caused when a big explsions occurs very near to you. The brain bounces back and forth inside the skull and is damaged. In the past this would not have mattered because you would be dead from the injuries to your torso but the body armor reduces those significantly.
We are going to see a new type of disabled veteran. They will look OK but not be functioning OK. Different from the Vietnam Vets with PTSD. Of course we will see that as well.
Jesu Maria--if the RAF can get an ID off an GI stationed in Germany, why can't some well-organized nonviolent radicals get reliable information or smuggle out some stories? How hard can it be? When we were in (never in Germany) marines never stopped complaining: are soldiers more contented? Is it all that food they eat?
Well, that's very sad and pretty grim, but I seem to remember a report 1 or 2 months ago that stated that close to 30% of the woundeds are indeed amputees, deaf, blind or brain-damaged to some extent - at least definitively disabled in a very bad way, both for military and normal working lifes.
The explanation is basically that the dead/wounded ratio is bigger now than before; better protection and hitech medicine allows more woundeds to survive in the battlefield and after, but that also means that many who now survive and would've died in previous decades are actually disabled. So, that's a progress, but it also means that people should change how they perceive "wounded" when it comes to war, because in far more cases than before it's very grim and tragical.
Olaf glad and big, that is true. However, you need to ask just what such a thing means. Knocked over, bruises, seem okay otherwise. Think of infant shaking syndrome. Having your brain bounced around your skull is not good. Perhaps an adult shows the strain a little differently. I was once in an accident where I woke up in the hospital. Couldn't remember the week before. Finally got it up to about an hour before the accident. Did it harm me? Am I capable of judging that? Can you tell within weeks of the incident? Just because you don't bleed doesn't mean you aren't hurt or suffer injury. On the other hand, maybe everything is okay. The hell is never knowing the difference and being put in the position to wonder.
How many women have been raped, American and Iraqi, and by whom?
Not only don't they want Americans to see pictures of soldiers recently wounded in Iraq, they don't even want us to see actors representing soldiers wounded in WWII. I'm referring of course to the TV censorship of "Saving Private Ryan" to protect delicate sensibilities.
All together now -- fingers in ears, eyes tightly shut, recite the Pledge of Allegiance at the top of your voice to drown out those other unpleasant sounds...
I'd imagine any reporter or news agency that does that story would quickly find all access to the White House and to the Pentagon cut off.
That's the way they run fascist juntas nowadays.
Annabella's?? DM15 for a goddam Champale while some German fox rubs your wanker, chugs the Champale and asks you for another one. That place scared me shitless.
And I remember the Kaisereck, probably ate there. So many restaurants, so much great beer. Oy.
I wonder what it's all like these days.
>"How many with moderate or worse brain damage?"
Sorry Duncan, you weren't in Iraq. You'll have to find another excuse.
And yes, it was the B40, 40-mark Strasse as the GIs so lovingly referred to it. I actually worked at Kapaun Air Station, over at Vogelweh, and so drove past the babes every day. I felt sorry for them when the weather was bad, which it often was.
If you've never seen open prostitution, it's hard to imagine.
Jeff Smithpeters, just what exactly is it they would lose? The chance to be lied to and made horses'asses of? Such honor and priorities they have.
millerdunwoody, not near as fun as it used to be. And you were absolutely right, Annabelles' would scare anybody in thier right mind. It was always about how much for how little. That's a fishbar/whorehouse no matter where you go. Ever been in Korea?
"I sing of Olaf glad and big/whose warmest heart recoiled at war:/a conscientious object-or",
who would not "kiss your fucking flag" and who said "there is some shit I will not eat".
Unfortunately, "our president,being of which/assertions duly notified/threw the yellow sonofabitch/into a dungeon, where he died."
Nice moniker.
Negative on Korea, but I was stationed in Thailand for two years back in the early 70s.
My best friend did a year at Kunsan, though, in '79 as I recall.
Wait a minute. Kapaun, Thailand, early 70's. Were you ever assigned to the 3rd Herd??
Sounds Army to me. I was a 20-year blue-suiter.
Finally ABC picks up on the over 400 injured.
Fierce fighting in Fallujah and elsewhere in Iraq has taken its toll on the Americans. More than 400 wounded soldiers have been transported to the U.S. military's Landstuhl Regional Medical Center in Germany, a hospital spokeswoman said.
Sorry, we got off the subject. My bad.
I guess you weren't. Thought for a moment I might know you. 3rd Mobile Communications Group or shortly after I got there, 3rd Combat Comm Group. Blue suit.
Oh My God! The evangelical vermin are infesting New York City!!!
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/
1...vangelical.html
Oh My God! The evangelical vermin are infesting New York City!!!
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/
1...vangelical.html
You guys ever stay/eat at Pletsch's in Ramstein?
You guys ever stay/eat at Pletsch's in Ramstein?
Thanks for posting this, A. My sweet, bright nephew is a Marine in Fallujah right now. 1st Marines, 3rd Brigade. No other jobs to be had, so he joined the Marines to "challenge himself." What 24 year old kid thinks about the possibility of turning himself into a vegetable? It's hard to breathe some days. Thanks for being a lifeline to the hard truths we all have to hear. Fucking Bush.
Thanks for posting this, A. My sweet, bright nephew is a Marine in Fallujah right now. 1st Marines, 3rd Brigade. No other jobs to be had, so he joined the Marines to "challenge himself." What 24 year old kid thinks about the possibility of turning himself into a vegetable? It's hard to breathe some days. Thanks for being a lifeline to the hard truths we all have to hear. Fucking Bush.
Another terrible thing is the soldiers who are horribly burned. It hardly bears thinking about the suffering.
Another terrible thing is the soldiers who are horribly burned. It hardly bears thinking about the suffering.
Anybody see the documentary "Unfinished symphony"?
Great, moving, very American.
Retired drug Czar and General Barry McCaffrey said last week that the US loses a battalion (sp?) a month in dead, wounded, and injured soldiers in Iraq.
That's a lot of people. How will the US sustain casualties of this level for long without drafting new talent?
Anybody see the documentary "Unfinished symphony"?
Great, moving, very American.
Retired drug Czar and General Barry McCaffrey said last week that the US loses a battalion (sp?) a month in dead, wounded, and injured soldiers in Iraq.
That's a lot of people. How will the US sustain casualties of this level for long without drafting new talent?
"We are going to see a new type of disabled veteran. They will look OK but not be functioning OK. Different from the Vietnam Vets with PTSD. Of course we will see that as well."
And as often happens with returning Vets,many will be welcomed into local law enforcement agencies with open arms.
"We are going to see a new type of disabled veteran. They will look OK but not be functioning OK. Different from the Vietnam Vets with PTSD. Of course we will see that as well."
And as often happens with returning Vets,many will be welcomed into local law enforcement agencies with open arms.
And the wounded at Landstuhl are probably the lucky ones. Let's just hope the insurgents dont take any of our guys captive. You know - - without US support of the "quaint" geneva convention i guess anything goes. Thanks Gonzales
And the wounded at Landstuhl are probably the lucky ones. Let's just hope the insurgents dont take any of our guys captive. You know - - without US support of the "quaint" geneva convention i guess anything goes. Thanks Gonzales
How many Timothy McVeighs and John Allan Muhammads will will this war create?
How many Timothy McVeighs and John Allan Muhammads will will this war create?
The Gonzales affair should demonstrate to the world the contempt the George Bush has not only for international law but for the American GIs who put their lives on the line for his vile politics.
That the American public--and the American news media--have not risen up in outrage over this is a sad commentary on the present state of affairs in this country. And we say we hold our military services in the highest regard.
The Gonzales affair should demonstrate to the world the contempt the George Bush has not only for international law but for the American GIs who put their lives on the line for his vile politics.
That the American public--and the American news media--have not risen up in outrage over this is a sad commentary on the present state of affairs in this country. And we say we hold our military services in the highest regard.
how many amputees, how many wounded in hidden ways? etc.? Support Our Troops.
Just don't come home with a drug dependency, an alcohol problem, battle fatigue (malingering). Bushbaby--'we are proud of the job being done by our fighting men & women' which is why we tried to cut their benefits. at this point the only thing stupider than voting 2 wks ago for Goatboy is volunteering for military svc.
how many amputees, how many wounded in hidden ways? etc.? Support Our Troops.
Just don't come home with a drug dependency, an alcohol problem, battle fatigue (malingering). Bushbaby--'we are proud of the job being done by our fighting men & women' which is why we tried to cut their benefits. at this point the only thing stupider than voting 2 wks ago for Goatboy is volunteering for military svc.
I personally hold any republican I see responsible for these injuries.
I personally hold any republican I see responsible for these injuries.
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