I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
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If he is gay, out his worthless traitor ass!
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If he is gay, out his worthless traitor ass!
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Sounds like the lost episode of "That's My Bush."
Sounds like the lost episode of "That's My Bush."
Why do you mention this subject? Dems would never have the temerity to point out repubs hypocricy. They are too busy trying to "get along" as Lieberman calls it, to give repubs grief
Why do you mention this subject? Dems would never have the temerity to point out repubs hypocricy. They are too busy trying to "get along" as Lieberman calls it, to give repubs grief
Excuse me, gay people? This shouldn't be too difficult. Someone needs to take one for the team.
Excuse me, gay people? This shouldn't be too difficult. Someone needs to take one for the team.
Dems would never have the temerity to point out repubs hypocricy.
Funny, I think that's just what we are doing. Maybe you need an eye exam?
Dems would never have the temerity to point out repubs hypocricy.
Funny, I think that's just what we are doing. Maybe you need an eye exam?
The only anagram for his name seems to be "helm man". Wanted to get keel hauled?
The only anagram for his name seems to be "helm man". Wanted to get keel hauled?
The Democrats can keep their "big tent" crap. The GOP is the "Big Closet" party.
The Democrats can keep their "big tent" crap. The GOP is the "Big Closet" party.
For his service to the Party, I'm sure they'll give him extra rations when it's time for him to go to one of the camps.
For his service to the Party, I'm sure they'll give him extra rations when it's time for him to go to one of the camps.
"And, spare me the crap about his private life."
There ya go. If the right would stop trying to control the private lives of others, then it wouldn't matter whether if he was gay or not. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
But being a Republican -- THAT there's something wrong with!
"And, spare me the crap about his private life."
There ya go. If the right would stop trying to control the private lives of others, then it wouldn't matter whether if he was gay or not. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
But being a Republican -- THAT there's something wrong with!
I don't know anyone on either side of the fence who'd do this chinless spawn of Satan, so it's all academic.
I don't know anyone on either side of the fence who'd do this chinless spawn of Satan, so it's all academic.
Calling Roy Cohn!
Calling Roy Cohn!
Woo woo?
Woo woo?
Out he goes.
Out he goes.
Someone needs to set him up, get pics, and put them out there. AFTER he's been in his new position a while. Maybe like in October 2006.
Someone needs to set him up, get pics, and put them out there. AFTER he's been in his new position a while. Maybe like in October 2006.
John,
when I say dem, I mean dem leaders, not bloggers. They roll over on Iraq, the tax cuts, porter goss, homeland security, abhu graib, everything. It seems like the mission of the democratic leadership is to get along with republicans. That what Leiberman pretty much said on Fox yesterday. That is why Dean NEEDS to be the DNC chair.
John,
when I say dem, I mean dem leaders, not bloggers. They roll over on Iraq, the tax cuts, porter goss, homeland security, abhu graib, everything. It seems like the mission of the democratic leadership is to get along with republicans. That what Leiberman pretty much said on Fox yesterday. That is why Dean NEEDS to be the DNC chair.
Mybe ex-gov. McGreevey could perform one last service for the party... 
Mybe ex-gov. McGreevey could perform one last service for the party...
Excuse me, gay people? This shouldn't be too difficult. Someone needs to take one for the team.
Let's hope that he's not as well hung as Dick Cheney is. Cheney's an absolute monster.
Excuse me, gay people? This shouldn't be too difficult. Someone needs to take one for the team.
Let's hope that he's not as well hung as Dick Cheney is. Cheney's an absolute monster.
Hecate, are you suggesting someone would ADMIT to doing Mehlman?
Hecate, are you suggesting someone would ADMIT to doing Mehlman?
McGreevey could perform one last service for the party - as in a blow to the GOP?
McGreevey could perform one last service for the party - as in a blow to the GOP?
Bush is so good at mind fucking the left.
Bush is so good at mind fucking the left.
LFoD
Ah, gotcha. Much clearer now. Thank you. Yes, Dean as chair.
LFoD
Ah, gotcha. Much clearer now. Thank you. Yes, Dean as chair.
dirtgirl,
Desperate times. Desperate measures.
dirtgirl,
Desperate times. Desperate measures.
TJJ,
Some say that's his colostomy bag, noy his little cheney.
TJJ,
Some say that's his colostomy bag, noy his little cheney.
The cat's in the bag and the bag's in the river.
The cat's in the bag and the bag's in the river.
desperate is a word that comes to mind.
desperate is a word that comes to mind.
democratic leadership is to get along with republicans. That what Leiberman pretty much said on Fox yesterday
Lieberman. On FAUX. That's the leadership of the Democratic Party?
That is why Dean NEEDS to be the DNC chair.
Dean, and only Dean? No other choices?
democratic leadership is to get along with republicans. That what Leiberman pretty much said on Fox yesterday
Lieberman. On FAUX. That's the leadership of the Democratic Party?
That is why Dean NEEDS to be the DNC chair.
Dean, and only Dean? No other choices?
I say take no fucking prisoners.
I say take no fucking prisoners.
democratic leadership is to get along with republicans. That what Leiberman pretty much said on Fox yesterday
Lieberman. On FAUX. That's the leadership of the Democratic Party?
That is why Dean NEEDS to be the DNC chair.
Dean, and only Dean? No other choices?
democratic leadership is to get along with republicans. That what Leiberman pretty much said on Fox yesterday
Lieberman. On FAUX. That's the leadership of the Democratic Party?
That is why Dean NEEDS to be the DNC chair.
Dean, and only Dean? No other choices?
four more queers!
four more queers!
four more queers!
Racicot, Rice, Mehlman. Who else ya got?
four more queers!
Racicot, Rice, Mehlman. Who else ya got?
I'd like to see Dean as chair if for no other reason than I think he would shake things up. What we've been doing isn't working too well, to say the least.
I'd like to see Dean as chair if for no other reason than I think he would shake things up. What we've been doing isn't working too well, to say the least.
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Ornicus said it best. They back us into the corner with vicious and unrelenting attacks which really defines our two options; give up with our bellies upended and our legs facing the sky, or totally kowtow and acknowledge them as the superior ones.
Ornicus -
"Liberals need to punch back, hard. And they need to stop believing that being nicer about it is going to win the debate. Of course, civility is always called for when the discussion is civil; but there are times when the gloves of civility have to come off. The line, I think, has to be drawn when eliminationism and violence -- even intimations of them -- enter into the picture. The response needn't be ugly, but it needs to be sharp, hard, and unmistakable".
I'm sure, if you have been married or in close contact with an abusive spouse, you were offered the two same options. When cornered, it really is fight or flight. With our percentages, do we really have an option?
Ornicus said it best. They back us into the corner with vicious and unrelenting attacks which really defines our two options; give up with our bellies upended and our legs facing the sky, or totally kowtow and acknowledge them as the superior ones.
Ornicus -
"Liberals need to punch back, hard. And they need to stop believing that being nicer about it is going to win the debate. Of course, civility is always called for when the discussion is civil; but there are times when the gloves of civility have to come off. The line, I think, has to be drawn when eliminationism and violence -- even intimations of them -- enter into the picture. The response needn't be ugly, but it needs to be sharp, hard, and unmistakable".
I'm sure, if you have been married or in close contact with an abusive spouse, you were offered the two same options. When cornered, it really is fight or flight. With our percentages, do we really have an option?
Expect nothing from any career politicians, repub or dem, any more than you expect anything from the media whores. They're all absolutely owned by the corporations. Not that I'm telling anyone anything they don't already know....
So an American soldier shot an injured Iraqi in cold blood. Terrible, yes, but at least he saw who he was killing. Most of "our" slaughter has been from a clean impersonal distance. And of course the blood is all on Bush's hands. But kings never pay.
Bring it all down. Don't pay your taxes; boycott the corporations and the churches. Tell your lying congressman to go fuck himself if he won't denounce Bush and this war.
Sorry, I'm really pissed, and unreasonable. But America is dead.
Peace.
Expect nothing from any career politicians, repub or dem, any more than you expect anything from the media whores. They're all absolutely owned by the corporations. Not that I'm telling anyone anything they don't already know....
So an American soldier shot an injured Iraqi in cold blood. Terrible, yes, but at least he saw who he was killing. Most of "our" slaughter has been from a clean impersonal distance. And of course the blood is all on Bush's hands. But kings never pay.
Bring it all down. Don't pay your taxes; boycott the corporations and the churches. Tell your lying congressman to go fuck himself if he won't denounce Bush and this war.
Sorry, I'm really pissed, and unreasonable. But America is dead.
Peace.
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Tastes like ... spam. - good thing we didn't step in it. ;^)
Dean, Clark.....whoever. As long as the person takes no shit. The repubs wake up everyday saying to themselves, 'what is the talking point today, what should be the headline this evening'. When have dems ever stood up in the last 4 years. They have been rolled for the last 4 years. Particularly disgusting was how the dems stood around and let Cleland get smeared as Osama, for voting against a provision in a dem created bill. Or how Kerry was the bad guy for going ot Vietnam, while Bush's desertion led to dan rather getting his fangs torn out If that is not the epitome of weakness, what is? Pathetic.
Dean, Clark.....whoever. As long as the person takes no shit. The repubs wake up everyday saying to themselves, 'what is the talking point today, what should be the headline this evening'. When have dems ever stood up in the last 4 years. They have been rolled for the last 4 years. Particularly disgusting was how the dems stood around and let Cleland get smeared as Osama, for voting against a provision in a dem created bill. Or how Kerry was the bad guy for going ot Vietnam, while Bush's desertion led to dan rather getting his fangs torn out If that is not the epitome of weakness, what is? Pathetic.
Would God want us to be abused?
Would God want us to be abused?
Yahoo News is running the story about a US Marine who shot and killed an injured Iraqi prisoner. And...wait for it...it's on tape.
Fucking A.
Yahoo News is running the story about a US Marine who shot and killed an injured Iraqi prisoner. And...wait for it...it's on tape.
Fucking A.
I really find it distasteful that the homosexuality of Ken Mehlman is under discussion.
After all, if he is gay, as people seem to think, shouldn't he be working to remove the anti-Gay platform of the GOP?
If I were in his position, with his ambiguous sexual orientation, I would, just to get that monkey off my back.
I really find it distasteful that the homosexuality of Ken Mehlman is under discussion.
After all, if he is gay, as people seem to think, shouldn't he be working to remove the anti-Gay platform of the GOP?
If I were in his position, with his ambiguous sexual orientation, I would, just to get that monkey off my back.
Yes, Dave, and if I could quit smoking (which I know feeds the tobacco companies) I would get that monkey off my back, too. But I'm not gunning for a CEO position for the anti-smoking lobby.
Yes, Dave, and if I could quit smoking (which I know feeds the tobacco companies) I would get that monkey off my back, too. But I'm not gunning for a CEO position for the anti-smoking lobby.
This isn't about who Ken Mehlman is or isn't screwing, it's about whether a gay man is going to head the "values" party.
More precisely, it's whether a gay man is going to stand by silently and let his paymasters crucify others of his kind for fun and profit. It's called "collaboration," and he deserves nothing but the most contemptuous treatment for it.
This isn't about who Ken Mehlman is or isn't screwing, it's about whether a gay man is going to head the "values" party.
More precisely, it's whether a gay man is going to stand by silently and let his paymasters crucify others of his kind for fun and profit. It's called "collaboration," and he deserves nothing but the most contemptuous treatment for it.
Full disclosure: I'm watching MSNBC as I spout my revolutionary jargon.
Michael Ware, the embedded Aussie reporter for Time, seems like he's gone off his nut. Not that I blame him, I'm just surprised they let him on TV.
Just thought I'd share.
As you were.
Peace.
Full disclosure: I'm watching MSNBC as I spout my revolutionary jargon.
Michael Ware, the embedded Aussie reporter for Time, seems like he's gone off his nut. Not that I blame him, I'm just surprised they let him on TV.
Just thought I'd share.
As you were.
Peace.
Do you suppose the R's made Mehlman sign a celibacy pledge? Love the sinner, hate the sin and all that.
Cuz it's worked so well for Catholic priests...
Tow
Do you suppose the R's made Mehlman sign a celibacy pledge? Love the sinner, hate the sin and all that.
Cuz it's worked so well for Catholic priests...
Tow
No, it's about going after them with everything we have. We just have to be organized enough to do it. Remember the old days, when sites provided e-mail lists? Dredge those babies up, and keep at it.
No, it's about going after them with everything we have. We just have to be organized enough to do it. Remember the old days, when sites provided e-mail lists? Dredge those babies up, and keep at it.
speedy,
i'm watching him too. Michael Ware is like that every time he calls into the Air America morning show. I never really know what to think of his 'reports'. I am curious how he gets hold of insurgent After Action Reports. seems like quite a catch.
mostly, i just can't get past the accent. keep expect him to grab a venemous snake.
speedy,
i'm watching him too. Michael Ware is like that every time he calls into the Air America morning show. I never really know what to think of his 'reports'. I am curious how he gets hold of insurgent After Action Reports. seems like quite a catch.
mostly, i just can't get past the accent. keep expect him to grab a venemous snake.
Out them all. Any gay person who is supporting the neo-fascist agenda deserves no space in the closet. I think it's safe to say that this particular courtesy of keeping quiet has been rendered "quaint" by the current circumstances. Ahem.
They're no better than the Jews who policed the ghettoes for the Nazi regime, and we should make them understand that their collaboration will not give them a free pass from the train ride that Nero's biggest supporters supporters (read: Sun Myung Moon) have in mind for us.
Out them all. Any gay person who is supporting the neo-fascist agenda deserves no space in the closet. I think it's safe to say that this particular courtesy of keeping quiet has been rendered "quaint" by the current circumstances. Ahem.
They're no better than the Jews who policed the ghettoes for the Nazi regime, and we should make them understand that their collaboration will not give them a free pass from the train ride that Nero's biggest supporters supporters (read: Sun Myung Moon) have in mind for us.
Liberal Cultural Warrior T-shirt slogan:
Out 'Em All!
Let God Sort 'Em Out.
Liberal Cultural Warrior T-shirt slogan:
Out 'Em All!
Let God Sort 'Em Out.
the story about a US Marine who shot and killed an injured Iraqi prisoner
It seems this story of GI's killing a wounded Iraqi like a wounded sheep to 'put him out of his misery' just finished its 15 seconds of fame on the wires.
Goooood mawwwwrning VIET-NAMMM!
the story about a US Marine who shot and killed an injured Iraqi prisoner
It seems this story of GI's killing a wounded Iraqi like a wounded sheep to 'put him out of his misery' just finished its 15 seconds of fame on the wires.
Goooood mawwwwrning VIET-NAMMM!
I really find it distasteful that the homosexuality of Ken Mehlman is under discussion.
Mehlman is not gay. He is a closeted heterosexual. Which is why his spokesman and others close to him will privately confirm that he is heterosexual, but neither they nor ne will go on the record.
Obviously, he is a self-hating straight man.
I really find it distasteful that the homosexuality of Ken Mehlman is under discussion.
Mehlman is not gay. He is a closeted heterosexual. Which is why his spokesman and others close to him will privately confirm that he is heterosexual, but neither they nor ne will go on the record.
Obviously, he is a self-hating straight man.
This isn't about who Ken Mehlman is or isn't screwing, it's about whether a gay man is going to head the "values" party.
Homophobia is alive and kickin' at Eschaton.
This isn't about who Ken Mehlman is or isn't screwing, it's about whether a gay man is going to head the "values" party.
Homophobia is alive and kickin' at Eschaton.
weird adjacent headlines on Google News -
USA Today:
"Man sets himself on fire outside White House
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"Man sets fire to belongings outside White House
weird adjacent headlines on Google News -
USA Today:
"Man sets himself on fire outside White House
China View (Xinhua)
"Man sets fire to belongings outside White House
cmdicely,
Well then, my respect for him has dropped.
Why wont he confirm is heterosexuality for all to see?
Out the heteros! 
cmdicely,
Well then, my respect for him has dropped.
Why wont he confirm is heterosexuality for all to see?
Out the heteros!
The reason this is news if true (and the reason it's important to get it out if it is true) is that the level of repression, denial, and mental illness required for Mehlman to operate in that context if he is gay is truly staggering. It's dangerous to have someone that mentally ill in a position of authority -- not because he's gay (if he is) but because of the self-hatred that reveals.
The larger story is the general level of mental illness and repression on the right.
They hate others because they hate themselves.
The reason this is news if true (and the reason it's important to get it out if it is true) is that the level of repression, denial, and mental illness required for Mehlman to operate in that context if he is gay is truly staggering. It's dangerous to have someone that mentally ill in a position of authority -- not because he's gay (if he is) but because of the self-hatred that reveals.
The larger story is the general level of mental illness and repression on the right.
They hate others because they hate themselves.
So an American soldier shot an injured Iraqi in cold blood. Terrible, yes, but at least he saw who he was killing. Most of "our" slaughter has been from a clean impersonal distance.
Um, so is this the planet where deliberate murder is somehow the least objectionable form of homicide rather than the most?
So an American soldier shot an injured Iraqi in cold blood. Terrible, yes, but at least he saw who he was killing. Most of "our" slaughter has been from a clean impersonal distance.
Um, so is this the planet where deliberate murder is somehow the least objectionable form of homicide rather than the most?
I'm not shocked by the GI shooting after all this is what happens in a war.
I hope all of the war suporters are cheering because this is what you get when you unleash the forces of war.
All wars have atriocities, all sides commit atrocities.
That is the nature of war.
I really wish most people knew this, fucking Hollywood, glorifying wars.
This is why you never declare war because this kind of shit will happen, even the "good" guys do horrible things, that's war.
I'm not shocked by the GI shooting after all this is what happens in a war.
I hope all of the war suporters are cheering because this is what you get when you unleash the forces of war.
All wars have atriocities, all sides commit atrocities.
That is the nature of war.
I really wish most people knew this, fucking Hollywood, glorifying wars.
This is why you never declare war because this kind of shit will happen, even the "good" guys do horrible things, that's war.
C'mon, you guys--the GOP doesn't hate gays, only the gays who want civil rights.
Closeted,
Get out of the closet and check your values. But I suppose you are already heterosexually married. Did anyone notice that Corby Kummer of the Atlantic, the best food writer ever, was in the NY Times as a married gay man? A truly open and creative person on all levels.
C'mon, you guys--the GOP doesn't hate gays, only the gays who want civil rights.
Closeted,
Get out of the closet and check your values. But I suppose you are already heterosexually married. Did anyone notice that Corby Kummer of the Atlantic, the best food writer ever, was in the NY Times as a married gay man? A truly open and creative person on all levels.
The soldier shot a helpless, wounded old man that had been waiting for medical aid for two days.
The soldier shot a helpless, wounded old man that had been waiting for medical aid for two days.
Yes, cmdicely. It's called Planet Bush.
Peace.
Yes, cmdicely. It's called Planet Bush.
Peace.
p.s. sorry - that last post was off-topic.
I tried looking for a link to the Blade's Mehlman article, but no such luck. Shoot, I didn't even realize the blade had a website.
Barney Frank for prez! Hey, if Barney Fife can run and win, why not Barney Frank?
p.s. sorry - that last post was off-topic.
I tried looking for a link to the Blade's Mehlman article, but no such luck. Shoot, I didn't even realize the blade had a website.
Barney Frank for prez! Hey, if Barney Fife can run and win, why not Barney Frank?
Dave J,
and the gays who have gay sex. they like the rest, though.
Dave J,
and the gays who have gay sex. they like the rest, though.
Hell yes out anyone and everyone in the GOP closet. And ask them to publicly declare if they support the amendment to ban gay marriage.
Hell yes out anyone and everyone in the GOP closet. And ask them to publicly declare if they support the amendment to ban gay marriage.
The administration authorized 'gay sex' at Abu Graib.
The administration authorized 'gay sex' at Abu Graib.
what a gay man can't be a bigoted evil asshole?
what a gay man can't be a bigoted evil asshole?
The reason this is news if true (and the reason it's important to get it out if it is true) is that the level of repression, denial, and mental illness required for Mehlman to operate in that context if he is gay is truly staggering.
Its actually not any greater than the level of repression, denial, and mental illness required of any high level Bush appointee, particularly in the National Security and Foreign Policy arenas, and those selections probably represent a more readily understood direct danger to a greater number of American lives than Mehlman does.
Really, of Goss as DCI, Rice as SoS, and Mehlman as RNC chair, I think the latter is the least significant, the least imminently dangerous, and the least easy to create a compelling narrative for the average American about the danger they pose.
So, both substantively and in terms of crafting political messages, while its fun to joke about whatever (homo-, hetero-, or otherwise) sexual closet Mehlman is in (and it wouldn't surprise me if he were straight and the Reps were deliberately fueling the rumors) ought to be about the last thing about this administration we are spending effort and time and communcicating.
The reason this is news if true (and the reason it's important to get it out if it is true) is that the level of repression, denial, and mental illness required for Mehlman to operate in that context if he is gay is truly staggering.
Its actually not any greater than the level of repression, denial, and mental illness required of any high level Bush appointee, particularly in the National Security and Foreign Policy arenas, and those selections probably represent a more readily understood direct danger to a greater number of American lives than Mehlman does.
Really, of Goss as DCI, Rice as SoS, and Mehlman as RNC chair, I think the latter is the least significant, the least imminently dangerous, and the least easy to create a compelling narrative for the average American about the danger they pose.
So, both substantively and in terms of crafting political messages, while its fun to joke about whatever (homo-, hetero-, or otherwise) sexual closet Mehlman is in (and it wouldn't surprise me if he were straight and the Reps were deliberately fueling the rumors) ought to be about the last thing about this administration we are spending effort and time and communcicating.
Whom. Whom Ken Mehlman is screwing.
Whom. Whom Ken Mehlman is screwing.
The administration authorized 'gay sex' at Abu Graib.
What the fuck?
The administration authorized 'gay sex' at Abu Graib.
What the fuck?
what a gay man can't be a bigoted evil asshole?
of course he can. just like an underpaid, outsourced manufacturing worker can vote Republican. but we can still point out how completely retarded it is.
what a gay man can't be a bigoted evil asshole?
of course he can. just like an underpaid, outsourced manufacturing worker can vote Republican. but we can still point out how completely retarded it is.
Weren't we more or less promised a bunch of outings of prominent Bush Repugs? Did I dream that?
I've been waiaiaiaiaiaiting...
Maybe I thought more was known than actually is.
Weren't we more or less promised a bunch of outings of prominent Bush Repugs? Did I dream that?
I've been waiaiaiaiaiaiting...
Maybe I thought more was known than actually is.
Mehlman will only be outed when his lover, Karl Rove, releases their videotape, a la Paris Hilton/Rick Salomon.
And we know how soon THAT'S gonna happen!!!!
Mehlman will only be outed when his lover, Karl Rove, releases their videotape, a la Paris Hilton/Rick Salomon.
And we know how soon THAT'S gonna happen!!!!
Overturning Roe vs. Wade would be good for progressive politics.
Overturning Roe vs. Wade would be good for progressive politics.
Don't know if anyone has posted this site yet...
www.sorryeverybody.com
Started by a student at my college, with thousands of pictures of people holding signs saying "Sorry Everybody" for half of the country re-electing Bush. Pictures are creative and inspiring, check it out
Don't know if anyone has posted this site yet...
www.sorryeverybody.com
Started by a student at my college, with thousands of pictures of people holding signs saying "Sorry Everybody" for half of the country re-electing Bush. Pictures are creative and inspiring, check it out
Dana Priest (WaPo) is on Countdown now. A dozen high level CIA people have left in the time since Goss came on board. Shit.
Dana Priest (WaPo) is on Countdown now. A dozen high level CIA people have left in the time since Goss came on board. Shit.
What the fuck?
Didn't you see the pictures of sexualized torture? They forced men to strip naked and simulate sex with each other.
What the fuck?
Didn't you see the pictures of sexualized torture? They forced men to strip naked and simulate sex with each other.
Overturning Roe vs. Wade would be good for progressive politics.
Yeah, cuz progressive women loathe reproductive health care rights.
Overturning Roe vs. Wade would be good for progressive politics.
Yeah, cuz progressive women loathe reproductive health care rights.
Homophobia is alive and kickin' at Eschaton.
As someone threatened by the Republicans, theor Nuremberg laws, and their supporters, I just have to say... please spare me the sanctimonious bullshit.
Homophobia is alive and kickin' at Eschaton.
As someone threatened by the Republicans, theor Nuremberg laws, and their supporters, I just have to say... please spare me the sanctimonious bullshit.
i'm with cmdicely, much more grave considerations on the horizon.
still, i really want to know if david brooks is gay. because if he's not he should be. and in fact, in the k. cobain sense of the word he's about as gay as you get in the very gay world of journalism.
i'm with cmdicely, much more grave considerations on the horizon.
still, i really want to know if david brooks is gay. because if he's not he should be. and in fact, in the k. cobain sense of the word he's about as gay as you get in the very gay world of journalism.
Yeah, cuz progressive women loathe reproductive health care rights.
Better surf around the internet. Lots of so called liberal pundits are arguing it would be a good thing.
Yeah, cuz progressive women loathe reproductive health care rights.
Better surf around the internet. Lots of so called liberal pundits are arguing it would be a good thing.
Hell yes out anyone and everyone in the GOP closet.
The New Salem Witch Trials.
Sponsored by Eschaton.
Hell yes out anyone and everyone in the GOP closet.
The New Salem Witch Trials.
Sponsored by Eschaton.
Mehlman is either straight... or a walking hypocrisy. We go after him with everything, because God knows that's what they do to our guys ever' damn time.
And... Lieberman is to the Democratic leadership as that loud woman who witnesses an accident and is interviewed on the local news is to the entire metro traffic pattern -- completely irrelevant, but he's the one they've got on TV.
Mehlman is either straight... or a walking hypocrisy. We go after him with everything, because God knows that's what they do to our guys ever' damn time.
And... Lieberman is to the Democratic leadership as that loud woman who witnesses an accident and is interviewed on the local news is to the entire metro traffic pattern -- completely irrelevant, but he's the one they've got on TV.
Some gay folks want to remain anonymous because they fear society isn't quite ready to embrace gays. When the political climate changes, they will come out. Including Republicans.
Some gay folks want to remain anonymous because they fear society isn't quite ready to embrace gays. When the political climate changes, they will come out. Including Republicans.
You know what I wish? I wish Mehlman had the courage to be gay and out. To respect himself enough to be who he actually is, instead of some pre-formed role made for him by Ward Cleaver and Joseph Goebbels.
Of course, that would mean Bush would have to reveal himself as a whiny, sniggering, drunken fratboy. Oh, wait....
You know what I wish? I wish Mehlman had the courage to be gay and out. To respect himself enough to be who he actually is, instead of some pre-formed role made for him by Ward Cleaver and Joseph Goebbels.
Of course, that would mean Bush would have to reveal himself as a whiny, sniggering, drunken fratboy. Oh, wait....
TheOtherWashington, morale in the federal government is the pits right now. And inauguration day is a paid holiday by law. Wonder how many will show up to show their appreciation for bush?
TheOtherWashington, morale in the federal government is the pits right now. And inauguration day is a paid holiday by law. Wonder how many will show up to show their appreciation for bush?
The wounded man shot is top of Google right now:
US Military Probes Shooting of Iraqi in Falluja
Reuters - 45 minutes ago
The US military has begun an investigation into possible war crimes after a television pool report by NBC showed a Marine shooting dead a wounded and unarmed Iraqi in a Falluja mosque, officials said on Monday.
Sad thing is stuff like this has been happening for several days. Story I saw yesterday had our guys throwing gernades into a school before entering. Blew the building up, but there wasn't anyone there. They are working under the assumption that everyone left in town is there to fight. They are mistaken.
The wounded man shot is top of Google right now:
US Military Probes Shooting of Iraqi in Falluja
Reuters - 45 minutes ago
The US military has begun an investigation into possible war crimes after a television pool report by NBC showed a Marine shooting dead a wounded and unarmed Iraqi in a Falluja mosque, officials said on Monday.
Sad thing is stuff like this has been happening for several days. Story I saw yesterday had our guys throwing gernades into a school before entering. Blew the building up, but there wasn't anyone there. They are working under the assumption that everyone left in town is there to fight. They are mistaken.
Some gay folks want to remain anonymous because they fear society isn't quite ready to embrace gays. When the political climate changes, they will come out. Including Republicans.
Some gay folks are working for people who want to legislate gay folks into second-class citizens. Some gay folks are working for people who want to put gay folks into ovens. The Republicans are working for (among others) Sun Myung Moon, who has purchased many of them with his money and influence... Some gay people work for those Republicans.
We have an obligation to make sure they understand what it is they're doing. As loudly and as frequently as possible. It might have the side-effect of making them understand that the rest of us gay folks will not tolerate such collaboration with those who would be our killers.
Some gay folks want to remain anonymous because they fear society isn't quite ready to embrace gays. When the political climate changes, they will come out. Including Republicans.
Some gay folks are working for people who want to legislate gay folks into second-class citizens. Some gay folks are working for people who want to put gay folks into ovens. The Republicans are working for (among others) Sun Myung Moon, who has purchased many of them with his money and influence... Some gay people work for those Republicans.
We have an obligation to make sure they understand what it is they're doing. As loudly and as frequently as possible. It might have the side-effect of making them understand that the rest of us gay folks will not tolerate such collaboration with those who would be our killers.
Way OT, but has anyone been watching Richard Pearle's appearances tonight (NewsHour, Hardball). He seems to be spouting some sort of hagiographic lines about Colin Powell. Wasn't he one of Powell's critics?
And what has put John McCain so deep into Bush's pocket? I don't get it. He was almost ranting about the CIA today--and the people being dumped overboard are not the ones responsible for the missed cues about 9/11 or who cooked the evidence for Iraq.
WTF?
Way OT, but has anyone been watching Richard Pearle's appearances tonight (NewsHour, Hardball). He seems to be spouting some sort of hagiographic lines about Colin Powell. Wasn't he one of Powell's critics?
And what has put John McCain so deep into Bush's pocket? I don't get it. He was almost ranting about the CIA today--and the people being dumped overboard are not the ones responsible for the missed cues about 9/11 or who cooked the evidence for Iraq.
WTF?
Maybe McCain is on some sort of medication that alters his perception of reality and keeps him going off the deep end. Seriously, after what he went through in Vietnam, wouldn't it be possible? And that it affects his judgment now?
Maybe McCain is on some sort of medication that alters his perception of reality and keeps him going off the deep end. Seriously, after what he went through in Vietnam, wouldn't it be possible? And that it affects his judgment now?
Better surf around the internet. Lots of so called liberal pundits are arguing it would be a good thing.
Yeah, but they're spineless assholes. Go back and check what those same people were saying about going to war with Iraq. They were gung ho for that too.
Unlike you and the rest of the right, we don't treat everything published by our philosphical siblings as gospel that must not be evaluated on its own merits. You should try it, or do you really believe all those crazy ideas the extremists on your side are touting.
Better surf around the internet. Lots of so called liberal pundits are arguing it would be a good thing.
Yeah, but they're spineless assholes. Go back and check what those same people were saying about going to war with Iraq. They were gung ho for that too.
Unlike you and the rest of the right, we don't treat everything published by our philosphical siblings as gospel that must not be evaluated on its own merits. You should try it, or do you really believe all those crazy ideas the extremists on your side are touting.
We have an obligation to make sure they understand what it is they're doing. As loudly and as frequently as possible.
Especially after they use this "values" issue against us. And Dick Cheney and Alan Keyes with their lovely daughters, pretending they're outraged.
Damn straight it's fair to expose their hypocrisy.
We have an obligation to make sure they understand what it is they're doing. As loudly and as frequently as possible.
Especially after they use this "values" issue against us. And Dick Cheney and Alan Keyes with their lovely daughters, pretending they're outraged.
Damn straight it's fair to expose their hypocrisy.
Joe Lie-berman and his wussy 'get-along/go-along' DLC schtick, cost the Dumbocraps more votes in 2000 than did Ralph Nader...
Joe Lie-berman and his wussy 'get-along/go-along' DLC schtick, cost the Dumbocraps more votes in 2000 than did Ralph Nader...
And what has put John McCain so deep into Bush's pocket?
He wants to be president in 4 years.
And what has put John McCain so deep into Bush's pocket?
He wants to be president in 4 years.
Unlike you and the rest of the right, we don't treat everything published by our philosphical siblings as gospel that must not be evaluated on its own merits.
I don't treat it as gospel, I hate the mother fuckers. Just pointing out the latest nonsense.
Unlike you and the rest of the right, we don't treat everything published by our philosphical siblings as gospel that must not be evaluated on its own merits.
I don't treat it as gospel, I hate the mother fuckers. Just pointing out the latest nonsense.
US Military Probes Shooting of Iraqi in Falluja
Reuters - 45 minutes ago
The US military has begun an investigation into possible war crimes after a television pool report by NBC showed a Marine shooting dead a wounded and unarmed Iraqi in a Falluja mosque, officials said on Monday.
was watching anderson cooper tonight (who i normally think is a decent guy and decent journalist)... and they show the video of the marines walking up to the wounded iraqis, then they freeze it and the gunfire sounds (with cooper cutting in to say they froze it because it was too graphic)...
and then... he says, to jaime macintyre, who's on commenting: "Just so we're clear, the people who were shot were not the ones who were in the foreground of the video, right? they were actually in the background where we could barely see as the video rolled forward towards the shooting"
and then mcintryre goes "That's absolutely right, anderson. the man who was shot was not in the foreground."
are they fucking insane? so now getting blown away is more okay if you're in the background of a video, but less okay if you're in the foreground?
welcome to the land of braindead tv land.
US Military Probes Shooting of Iraqi in Falluja
Reuters - 45 minutes ago
The US military has begun an investigation into possible war crimes after a television pool report by NBC showed a Marine shooting dead a wounded and unarmed Iraqi in a Falluja mosque, officials said on Monday.
was watching anderson cooper tonight (who i normally think is a decent guy and decent journalist)... and they show the video of the marines walking up to the wounded iraqis, then they freeze it and the gunfire sounds (with cooper cutting in to say they froze it because it was too graphic)...
and then... he says, to jaime macintyre, who's on commenting: "Just so we're clear, the people who were shot were not the ones who were in the foreground of the video, right? they were actually in the background where we could barely see as the video rolled forward towards the shooting"
and then mcintryre goes "That's absolutely right, anderson. the man who was shot was not in the foreground."
are they fucking insane? so now getting blown away is more okay if you're in the background of a video, but less okay if you're in the foreground?
welcome to the land of braindead tv land.
Overturning Roe vs. Wade would be good for progressive politics.
Anonymous
What a turd.
Overturning Roe vs. Wade would be good for progressive politics.
Anonymous
What a turd.
www.sorryeverybody.com
Started by a student at my college, with thousands of pictures of people holding signs saying "Sorry Everybody" for half of the country re-electing Bush. Pictures are creative and inspiring, check it out
Whitney
Damn, Whitney, what a site. I was up till 3am checking out those pictures. Was addictive. Just a window into people's lives. This election touched so many people deeply.
www.sorryeverybody.com
Started by a student at my college, with thousands of pictures of people holding signs saying "Sorry Everybody" for half of the country re-electing Bush. Pictures are creative and inspiring, check it out
Whitney
Damn, Whitney, what a site. I was up till 3am checking out those pictures. Was addictive. Just a window into people's lives. This election touched so many people deeply.
In the old days, the murder of that old man in Fallujah would be shown on TV.
In the old days, the murder of that old man in Fallujah would be shown on TV.
Pretty soon, we're going to have to start holding individual soldiers to account for their war-crimes: murder, rape, looting all the venal sins to which the war-stressed flesh is heir...
Pretty soon, we're going to have to start holding individual soldiers to account for their war-crimes: murder, rape, looting all the venal sins to which the war-stressed flesh is heir...
Lynne Cheney should let herself be filmed with Mehlman munching on her lips and the Republican should demand that the footage be aired during the SuperBowl Halftime.
That would begin to address some of the Republican Party's hypocritical policies.
Lynne Cheney should let herself be filmed with Mehlman munching on her lips and the Republican should demand that the footage be aired during the SuperBowl Halftime.
That would begin to address some of the Republican Party's hypocritical policies.
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. military has begun an investigation into possible war crimes after a television pool report by NBC showed a Marine shooting dead a wounded and unarmed Iraqi in a Falluja mosque, officials said on Monday.
The Iraqi was one of five wounded left in the mosque after Marines fought their way in on Friday and Saturday. The U.S. military has accused insurgents in Iraq of using mosques to launch attacks against American forces.
U.S. forces, along with Iraqi government troops, launched an offensive one week ago on Falluja, and have gained overall control of the formerly rebel-held city, although scattered resistance remains.
Maj. Douglas Powell, a Marine Corps spokesman at the Pentagon, said the investigation, being conducted by the Naval Criminal Investigative Service, focused on "possible law of war violations" by U.S. Marines.
The pool report by NBC correspondent Kevin Sites said the mosque had been used by insurgents to attack U.S. forces, who stormed it and an adjacent building, killing 10 militants and wounding the five.
Sites said the wounded had been left in the mosque for others to pick up and move to the rear for treatment. No reason was given why that had not happened.
A second group of Marines entered the mosque on Saturday after reports it had been reoccupied. Footage from the embedded television crew showed the five still in the mosque, although several appeared to be already close to death, Sites said.
He said one Marine noticed one of the prisoners was still breathing.
A Marine can be heard saying on the pool footage provided to Reuters Television: "He's f***ing faking he's dead. He faking he's f***ing dead."
"The Marine then raises his rifle and fires into the man's head. The pictures are too graphic for us to broadcast," Sites said. No images of the shooting were shown in the footage provided to Reuters.
The report said the Marine had returned to duty after being shot in the face a day earlier.
Sites said the shot prisoner "did not appear to be armed or threatening in any way."
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. military has begun an investigation into possible war crimes after a television pool report by NBC showed a Marine shooting dead a wounded and unarmed Iraqi in a Falluja mosque, officials said on Monday.
The Iraqi was one of five wounded left in the mosque after Marines fought their way in on Friday and Saturday. The U.S. military has accused insurgents in Iraq of using mosques to launch attacks against American forces.
U.S. forces, along with Iraqi government troops, launched an offensive one week ago on Falluja, and have gained overall control of the formerly rebel-held city, although scattered resistance remains.
Maj. Douglas Powell, a Marine Corps spokesman at the Pentagon, said the investigation, being conducted by the Naval Criminal Investigative Service, focused on "possible law of war violations" by U.S. Marines.
The pool report by NBC correspondent Kevin Sites said the mosque had been used by insurgents to attack U.S. forces, who stormed it and an adjacent building, killing 10 militants and wounding the five.
Sites said the wounded had been left in the mosque for others to pick up and move to the rear for treatment. No reason was given why that had not happened.
A second group of Marines entered the mosque on Saturday after reports it had been reoccupied. Footage from the embedded television crew showed the five still in the mosque, although several appeared to be already close to death, Sites said.
He said one Marine noticed one of the prisoners was still breathing.
A Marine can be heard saying on the pool footage provided to Reuters Television: "He's f***ing faking he's dead. He faking he's f***ing dead."
"The Marine then raises his rifle and fires into the man's head. The pictures are too graphic for us to broadcast," Sites said. No images of the shooting were shown in the footage provided to Reuters.
The report said the Marine had returned to duty after being shot in the face a day earlier.
Sites said the shot prisoner "did not appear to be armed or threatening in any way."
jsg, you're right. Can you imagine how scary it is now to be sane and employed by the federal government? The lunatics are running wild in the halls.
Tow
jsg, you're right. Can you imagine how scary it is now to be sane and employed by the federal government? The lunatics are running wild in the halls.
Tow
A black Imperial Wizard?
Neato!
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A black Imperial Wizard?
Neato!
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Kevin Sites, the embedded reporter who witnessed the shooting of the wounded Iraqi has an interesting blog.
Kevin Sites, the embedded reporter who witnessed the shooting of the wounded Iraqi has an interesting blog.
Hey, I know what they'll do. Mehlman and Rice will get married and kill two (rumor) birds with one stone. That should comfort you. /major snark
Tow
Hey, I know what they'll do. Mehlman and Rice will get married and kill two (rumor) birds with one stone. That should comfort you. /major snark
Tow
The saddest thing about the Fallujah shooting is that you know there would be no investigation into "war crimes" if it hadn't been caught on film.
You just know there's stuff like that going on all over Fallujah, but since there's no video, as far as Americans are concerned, it didn't happen.
The Iraquis will remember it, though. Count on that.
The saddest thing about the Fallujah shooting is that you know there would be no investigation into "war crimes" if it hadn't been caught on film.
You just know there's stuff like that going on all over Fallujah, but since there's no video, as far as Americans are concerned, it didn't happen.
The Iraquis will remember it, though. Count on that.
Fallujah is a war crime. Everything else that happens is more war crimes.
But Fallujah has been one big war crime. IN the first place, it was all retaliation over the deaths of 4 contractors/mercenaries. I"m sure the resistance grew as the United States continued to attack. And attack.
Fallujah is a war crime. Everything else that happens is more war crimes.
But Fallujah has been one big war crime. IN the first place, it was all retaliation over the deaths of 4 contractors/mercenaries. I"m sure the resistance grew as the United States continued to attack. And attack.
And, spare me the crap about his private life.
Well, most everyone else is, but I won't. You know why? Because it is his private life. If our side believes in the principle that people should be treated equally regardless of sexual orientation, then don't make it an issue in re Ken Mehlman. You're just battling his (alleged) hypocrisy with your own, and down the drain we go.
If you believe (as I do) that the Dems fared poorly in large part because of the lack of a coherent, positive message, then maybe we should spend our energies enhancing the development of such a message. Go take another look at Obama's convention speech--that's the starting point.
If, however, the goal here is merely to provide red meat for our hyenas, I guess those of us looking for solutions rather than amusingly snarky descriptions of the problem should bow out and let the remainder fight over the gristle.
And, spare me the crap about his private life.
Well, most everyone else is, but I won't. You know why? Because it is his private life. If our side believes in the principle that people should be treated equally regardless of sexual orientation, then don't make it an issue in re Ken Mehlman. You're just battling his (alleged) hypocrisy with your own, and down the drain we go.
If you believe (as I do) that the Dems fared poorly in large part because of the lack of a coherent, positive message, then maybe we should spend our energies enhancing the development of such a message. Go take another look at Obama's convention speech--that's the starting point.
If, however, the goal here is merely to provide red meat for our hyenas, I guess those of us looking for solutions rather than amusingly snarky descriptions of the problem should bow out and let the remainder fight over the gristle.
THE FINE PRINT!
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THE FINE PRINT!
>>>READ IT AT DAILYBLURB.TBLOG.COM
Kevin Sites:
Staff Sgt. Terry Mcelwain of Burden, Kansas is pissed. He grabs the bazooka-like AT-4 rocket launcher from the back of another humvee. It's fire trail zips into the now smoking building. Mcelwain wants Weapons Company to fire a tow missile into it as well, but low hanging electrical wires make it impossible -- so he calls up the tanks instead.
Two Abrams lumber toward the target. They stop and fire their main guns in unison. The explosion shakes the street. But the Marines aren't done yet.
They pour in more rounds from 50 caliber machine guns and their M16's.
But as the unit moves past the building, going from east to west, another RPG explodes behind them, then a third. More casualties. A Navy Corpsman cut the pants leg off one of the injured and wraps a guaze dressing around the bleeding wound while another Marine covers with a 249-SAW (squad Assault Weapon). But regardless of how much firepower the Marines bring to bear -- they can't seem to silence this phantom enemy, which continues to fire on them from the rear.
Then insurgent snipers begin firing in front of the Marines as well. One round pierces the Kevlar helmet a twenty-year old Mark 19 gunner -- in my vehicle. He is badly wounded. He's put in a canvas stretcher and six Marines run through the streets carrying him to a waiting military ambulance.
Shortly after -- another RPG round hits a humvee, but doesn't explode. The Marines are rattled but uninjured. A Marine who has caught shrapnel in the face is led to the safety of an empty storefront -- his eyes bandaged shut -- his hands outstretched -- probing the air in front of him.
The Marines know they are being hunted. Boxed from the east and the west in a treacherous kill zone by an enemy they can feel -- but can't see. Their superior firepower is checked by the insurgent's knowledge of the city -- their cunning in using blind alleyways and the crooks and crannies of buildings to pick off the Marines.
The gun battle continues late into the night -- eventually an AC-130 gunship is called in and strafes Elizabeth Street with its mini guns. With eight of their men wounded--it is a bloody and disappointing start for the Marines -- and a reminder that to win the battle for Falluja -- they will likely have to fight as they did today block by block, street by street.
Discuss
Kevin 11:05 AM
Bobby Shaftow would be proud.
Kevin Sites:
Staff Sgt. Terry Mcelwain of Burden, Kansas is pissed. He grabs the bazooka-like AT-4 rocket launcher from the back of another humvee. It's fire trail zips into the now smoking building. Mcelwain wants Weapons Company to fire a tow missile into it as well, but low hanging electrical wires make it impossible -- so he calls up the tanks instead.
Two Abrams lumber toward the target. They stop and fire their main guns in unison. The explosion shakes the street. But the Marines aren't done yet.
They pour in more rounds from 50 caliber machine guns and their M16's.
But as the unit moves past the building, going from east to west, another RPG explodes behind them, then a third. More casualties. A Navy Corpsman cut the pants leg off one of the injured and wraps a guaze dressing around the bleeding wound while another Marine covers with a 249-SAW (squad Assault Weapon). But regardless of how much firepower the Marines bring to bear -- they can't seem to silence this phantom enemy, which continues to fire on them from the rear.
Then insurgent snipers begin firing in front of the Marines as well. One round pierces the Kevlar helmet a twenty-year old Mark 19 gunner -- in my vehicle. He is badly wounded. He's put in a canvas stretcher and six Marines run through the streets carrying him to a waiting military ambulance.
Shortly after -- another RPG round hits a humvee, but doesn't explode. The Marines are rattled but uninjured. A Marine who has caught shrapnel in the face is led to the safety of an empty storefront -- his eyes bandaged shut -- his hands outstretched -- probing the air in front of him.
The Marines know they are being hunted. Boxed from the east and the west in a treacherous kill zone by an enemy they can feel -- but can't see. Their superior firepower is checked by the insurgent's knowledge of the city -- their cunning in using blind alleyways and the crooks and crannies of buildings to pick off the Marines.
The gun battle continues late into the night -- eventually an AC-130 gunship is called in and strafes Elizabeth Street with its mini guns. With eight of their men wounded--it is a bloody and disappointing start for the Marines -- and a reminder that to win the battle for Falluja -- they will likely have to fight as they did today block by block, street by street.
Discuss
Kevin 11:05 AM
Bobby Shaftow would be proud.
Sam - no way. Hypocrisy is a fair target. I don't care how finely you try to slice this, it is about one thing: hypocrisy.
No way I back off. They deserve this shit = they are trying to promote hatred for gays and lesbians. Fuck that whole idea of backing off.
Sam - no way. Hypocrisy is a fair target. I don't care how finely you try to slice this, it is about one thing: hypocrisy.
No way I back off. They deserve this shit = they are trying to promote hatred for gays and lesbians. Fuck that whole idea of backing off.
Homophobia is alive and kickin' at Eschaton.
closeted
Actually, we're the "homophiles" in this argument.
We love Ken. On the other hand, people in the Republican party hate Ken.
They want to destroy Ken for good measure, they don't want to wait around for God to judge, like the Bible says. (Just in case God's a "librul" and doesn't have the right idea)
Not only is Ken not welcome in their churches, he is not welcome in their party, and he is especially not welcome in their country. They want to amend the Constitution so the Equal Protection Clause no longer applies to him.
Eschatonians are pretty magnanimous in trying to protect Ken's constitutional rights and freedoms, in spite of the fact he's a Rethuglican asshole, dontcha think?
Homophobia is alive and kickin' at Eschaton.
closeted
Actually, we're the "homophiles" in this argument.
We love Ken. On the other hand, people in the Republican party hate Ken.
They want to destroy Ken for good measure, they don't want to wait around for God to judge, like the Bible says. (Just in case God's a "librul" and doesn't have the right idea)
Not only is Ken not welcome in their churches, he is not welcome in their party, and he is especially not welcome in their country. They want to amend the Constitution so the Equal Protection Clause no longer applies to him.
Eschatonians are pretty magnanimous in trying to protect Ken's constitutional rights and freedoms, in spite of the fact he's a Rethuglican asshole, dontcha think?
How to improve the Demorcrat party:
1. Overturn Roe v. Wade
2. Get rid of Habeas Corpus
3. Outlaw all parties except the glorius GOP
4. Have Rupert buy CBS, NBC and ABC
5. Send all registered Democrats to fight in Iraq (we need them to do something productive).
6. Establish mental health tests for all citizens and enforce treatment.
How to improve the Demorcrat party:
1. Overturn Roe v. Wade
2. Get rid of Habeas Corpus
3. Outlaw all parties except the glorius GOP
4. Have Rupert buy CBS, NBC and ABC
5. Send all registered Democrats to fight in Iraq (we need them to do something productive).
6. Establish mental health tests for all citizens and enforce treatment.
"I Am a Republican " troll
"I Am a Republican " troll
I would definitely vote for mental health tests for all citizens. O please, let's do that. And especially any citizen who decides to run for office.
I would definitely vote for mental health tests for all citizens. O please, let's do that. And especially any citizen who decides to run for office.
>Go take another look at Obama's convention speech--that's the starting point.<
I can't imagine a more positive message than John Kerry delivered. I can only imagine what a Swift Boat type group would do with Obama. I'm not saying you're not correct, but our enemy in psychopathic in it's ruthlessness.
>Go take another look at Obama's convention speech--that's the starting point.<
I can't imagine a more positive message than John Kerry delivered. I can only imagine what a Swift Boat type group would do with Obama. I'm not saying you're not correct, but our enemy in psychopathic in it's ruthlessness.
And what has put John McCain so deep into Bush's pocket? I don't get it. He was almost ranting about the CIA today--and the people being dumped overboard are not the ones responsible for the missed cues about 9/11 or who cooked the evidence for Iraq.
Don't like it? Tough. You guys should have run better candidates, but no, so its our country now.
And what has put John McCain so deep into Bush's pocket? I don't get it. He was almost ranting about the CIA today--and the people being dumped overboard are not the ones responsible for the missed cues about 9/11 or who cooked the evidence for Iraq.
Don't like it? Tough. You guys should have run better candidates, but no, so its our country now.
Don't like it? Tough. You guys should have run better candidates, but no, so its our country now.
I Am a Republican | Email | Homepage | 11.15.04 - 9:00 pm | #
You break it, you buy it...feel free to call it yours.
Don't like it? Tough. You guys should have run better candidates, but no, so its our country now.
I Am a Republican | Email | Homepage | 11.15.04 - 9:00 pm | #
You break it, you buy it...feel free to call it yours.
I would definitely vote for mental health tests for all citizens. O please, let's do that. And especially any citizen who decides to run for office.
Glad to see a Dem on board with the agenda.
I would definitely vote for mental health tests for all citizens. O please, let's do that. And especially any citizen who decides to run for office.
Glad to see a Dem on board with the agenda.
Nineteen-year-old redneck ignoramuses, hopped up on adrenaline and speed, armed with the most powerful infantry weapons on the planet, and an enemy they can't find, but who finds them relentlessly?
It was a recipe for atrocities in Nam, and is is the same today in Iraq.
The Bushies should ALL swing...
Nineteen-year-old redneck ignoramuses, hopped up on adrenaline and speed, armed with the most powerful infantry weapons on the planet, and an enemy they can't find, but who finds them relentlessly?
It was a recipe for atrocities in Nam, and is is the same today in Iraq.
The Bushies should ALL swing...
I would definitely vote for mental health tests for all citizens. O please, let's do that. And especially any citizen who decides to run for office.
Tena
And, of course, this would include mandatory drug testing, and an indepth investigation of any and all past legao and illegal drug use. Right?
You break it, you buy it
Clinton broke it. We're fixing it.
I would definitely vote for mental health tests for all citizens. O please, let's do that. And especially any citizen who decides to run for office.
Tena
And, of course, this would include mandatory drug testing, and an indepth investigation of any and all past legao and illegal drug use. Right?
You break it, you buy it
Clinton broke it. We're fixing it.
kerry and establishment dems trashing dean. after all the work he did for them during the campaign:
Kerry is not behind Shaheen right now, he's behind Vilsack (not that he wouldn't turn to her if Vilsack dropped out). As I stated earlier, it's mostly a "Stop Dean" movement that Kerry is leading the charge on from behind the scenes. And yes, Kerry does have that $45M leftover from the campaign that he's not ready to handover to the DNC at this time-- why not?
http://dailykos.com/story/2004/1...11/15/132124/
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this is not principled behavior. this is not what a man of honor and character does.
kerry and establishment dems trashing dean. after all the work he did for them during the campaign:
Kerry is not behind Shaheen right now, he's behind Vilsack (not that he wouldn't turn to her if Vilsack dropped out). As I stated earlier, it's mostly a "Stop Dean" movement that Kerry is leading the charge on from behind the scenes. And yes, Kerry does have that $45M leftover from the campaign that he's not ready to handover to the DNC at this time-- why not?
http://dailykos.com/story/2004/1...11/15/132124/
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this is not principled behavior. this is not what a man of honor and character does.
IAAR:
Please come to Albuquerque and meet me and tell me it is "your" country now, and no longer "mine." Please.
Tip: Buy a one-way ticket...
IAAR:
Please come to Albuquerque and meet me and tell me it is "your" country now, and no longer "mine." Please.
Tip: Buy a one-way ticket...
>Don't like it? Tough. You guys should have run better candidates, but no, so its our country now.
I Am a Republican<
This has to be a five foot turd that had his ears flipped by every single kid that exited that little yellow school bus.
Look at me, I get to be part of a cult that would never even let me mow the lawn for them.
Gloating after a big win is so charming and classy.
>Don't like it? Tough. You guys should have run better candidates, but no, so its our country now.
I Am a Republican<
This has to be a five foot turd that had his ears flipped by every single kid that exited that little yellow school bus.
Look at me, I get to be part of a cult that would never even let me mow the lawn for them.
Gloating after a big win is so charming and classy.
I'm suddenly struck with uncontrollable laughter at the thought of a Republican actually believing that mental health tests for the country would actually make them look more mentally stable.
I'm suddenly struck with uncontrollable laughter at the thought of a Republican actually believing that mental health tests for the country would actually make them look more mentally stable.
Well, most everyone else is, but I won't. You know why? Because it is his private life. If our side believes in the principle that people should be treated equally regardless of sexual orientation, then don't make it an issue in re Ken Mehlman. You're just battling his (alleged) hypocrisy with your own, and down the drain we go.
Private life...Heh
Like the private life of Bill Clinton? Or the private life of Alex Polier who was the target of vicious right wing gossip a la Drudge for some made-up affair with John Kerry? Or the private life of Sidney Blumenthal who sued Drudge for libel after being falsely accused of being a spouse batterer but had to give up his court fight for lack of funds, because Drudge's scumbag "angels" like Scaife and his deep pockets were paying for Drudge's attorneys?
Playing nice with republicans will get you nothing but a knife in the back.
That's the way it is. So, they bring a knife to a fight, you'd better damn well have a gun - because this is the only language these people speak.
Well, most everyone else is, but I won't. You know why? Because it is his private life. If our side believes in the principle that people should be treated equally regardless of sexual orientation, then don't make it an issue in re Ken Mehlman. You're just battling his (alleged) hypocrisy with your own, and down the drain we go.
Private life...Heh
Like the private life of Bill Clinton? Or the private life of Alex Polier who was the target of vicious right wing gossip a la Drudge for some made-up affair with John Kerry? Or the private life of Sidney Blumenthal who sued Drudge for libel after being falsely accused of being a spouse batterer but had to give up his court fight for lack of funds, because Drudge's scumbag "angels" like Scaife and his deep pockets were paying for Drudge's attorneys?
Playing nice with republicans will get you nothing but a knife in the back.
That's the way it is. So, they bring a knife to a fight, you'd better damn well have a gun - because this is the only language these people speak.
Sam, say they are against, oh, Red Sox fans. Say they wanted to jail or punish all Red Sox fans. Then you find out some of them are secretly Red Sox fans themselves. How can you possibly say that pointing that out is hypocritical???? Makes no sense!
Sam, say they are against, oh, Red Sox fans. Say they wanted to jail or punish all Red Sox fans. Then you find out some of them are secretly Red Sox fans themselves. How can you possibly say that pointing that out is hypocritical???? Makes no sense!
OFF TOPIC
John Ashcroft's letter of resignation was written on Nov. 2.
That's election day.
Ashcroft knew Bush had won re-election before the votes had been cast and counted. The content of the letter makes that much obvious.
If I were a suspicious person by nature, I might want to ask how, exactly, did John Ashcroft know that Bush had won re-election BEFORE he had won re-election?
If I were a suspicious person . . .
OFF TOPIC
John Ashcroft's letter of resignation was written on Nov. 2.
That's election day.
Ashcroft knew Bush had won re-election before the votes had been cast and counted. The content of the letter makes that much obvious.
If I were a suspicious person by nature, I might want to ask how, exactly, did John Ashcroft know that Bush had won re-election BEFORE he had won re-election?
If I were a suspicious person . . .
IAAR:
Please come to Albuquerque and meet me and tell me it is "your" country now, and no longer "mine." Please.
I'm happy right here in Kansas.
Look you'd be better spending your energy figurng out how you will ever get a Dem elected to national office.
Better yet, switch parties to the GOP.
IAAR:
Please come to Albuquerque and meet me and tell me it is "your" country now, and no longer "mine." Please.
I'm happy right here in Kansas.
Look you'd be better spending your energy figurng out how you will ever get a Dem elected to national office.
Better yet, switch parties to the GOP.
this is not principled behavior. this is not what a man of honor and character does.
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Wow, maybe Kerry should steal the money and have a bunch of plastic surgery or have sex with eight-year-olds or try to take his wife to "Swinger's clubs" or get hopped up on Hillbilly Heroin before his third divorce or scam Medicaid and sterilize poor women without their consent like all the men of "honor and character" in the Republican party do.
this is not principled behavior. this is not what a man of honor and character does.
y
Wow, maybe Kerry should steal the money and have a bunch of plastic surgery or have sex with eight-year-olds or try to take his wife to "Swinger's clubs" or get hopped up on Hillbilly Heroin before his third divorce or scam Medicaid and sterilize poor women without their consent like all the men of "honor and character" in the Republican party do.
out out damned spot, and try Jerry Kilgore, the Va Atty General while you are at it.
out out damned spot, and try Jerry Kilgore, the Va Atty General while you are at it.
Gloating after a big win is so charming and classy.
Are you telling me you wouldn't be gloating if Kerry had won?
Dude, this is like baseball. When your team wins, you gloat and rub it in. When your team loses, you take it like a man and come back ready to play next season.
This year Kansas won. Just sayin'.
Gloating after a big win is so charming and classy.
Are you telling me you wouldn't be gloating if Kerry had won?
Dude, this is like baseball. When your team wins, you gloat and rub it in. When your team loses, you take it like a man and come back ready to play next season.
This year Kansas won. Just sayin'.
Jeez, try a little dry humor and see what happens? LOL.
I was suggesting ever so lamely that wingnuts should be careful what they wish for.
Maybe they wouldn't pass all those mental health tests themselves.
Jeez, try a little dry humor and see what happens? LOL.
I was suggesting ever so lamely that wingnuts should be careful what they wish for.
Maybe they wouldn't pass all those mental health tests themselves.
I keep suggesting, all of us wrong thinking folk including the politicians, take a hard turn to the right.
It is always hard to pick your opponent out of a crowd.
Ya know,
"Marge! which Republican did you say the the bad Republican? No the other one, naw not that one either. Damn I miss the Democrats, it was a lot easier to hate back then"
I keep suggesting, all of us wrong thinking folk including the politicians, take a hard turn to the right.
It is always hard to pick your opponent out of a crowd.
Ya know,
"Marge! which Republican did you say the the bad Republican? No the other one, naw not that one either. Damn I miss the Democrats, it was a lot easier to hate back then"
Don't like it? Tough. You guys should have run better candidates, but no, so its our country now.
I Am a Republican | Email | Homepage | 11.15.04 - 9:00 pm | # ......................This week your countrys' congress will vote to raise the debt ceiling to 8 trillion dollars.You own it,so pay for the fucking thing.
Don't like it? Tough. You guys should have run better candidates, but no, so its our country now.
I Am a Republican | Email | Homepage | 11.15.04 - 9:00 pm | # ......................This week your countrys' congress will vote to raise the debt ceiling to 8 trillion dollars.You own it,so pay for the fucking thing.
Sometimes I poop my pants. But it tastes good. That's what my mommy says, anyway.
Sometimes I poop my pants. But it tastes good. That's what my mommy says, anyway.
Troll season must be in high gear. I can barely stand the stench.
No feeding. I promise.
But I will say, with all of the resignations today, the news about Condi (nothing like rewarding failed behavior), and Ken Mehlman, hypocrite extraordinaire ~ if he is gay, and even if he isn't, he's merely a talking head...I have a feeling that the second term of this moron is going to be much worse than the first.
Oh my God, just two weeks ago I felt hopeful.
Now I feel like I am the subject in Munsch's Scream.
Troll season must be in high gear. I can barely stand the stench.
No feeding. I promise.
But I will say, with all of the resignations today, the news about Condi (nothing like rewarding failed behavior), and Ken Mehlman, hypocrite extraordinaire ~ if he is gay, and even if he isn't, he's merely a talking head...I have a feeling that the second term of this moron is going to be much worse than the first.
Oh my God, just two weeks ago I felt hopeful.
Now I feel like I am the subject in Munsch's Scream.
Jesus fucking christ - a softball game?
No, it's actually a country. A government. An election for the highest office in the land.
It is most assuredly not a softball game.
Jesus fucking christ - a softball game?
No, it's actually a country. A government. An election for the highest office in the land.
It is most assuredly not a softball game.
stinky , i'm not talking about the money. i shouldn't have included that in the cut and paste. that's an issue jerome armstrong is making. not me.
what i'm saying was unprincipled was kerry leading the charge in the anti-dean crusade, after dean went out of his way to support kerry's candidacy.
stinky , i'm not talking about the money. i shouldn't have included that in the cut and paste. that's an issue jerome armstrong is making. not me.
what i'm saying was unprincipled was kerry leading the charge in the anti-dean crusade, after dean went out of his way to support kerry's candidacy.
IAAR: Actually, not everybody gloats. Some people just take the win and go about their business. Gloaters tend to be people who felt insecure about their chances of winning and therefore feel overly-vindicated even when they only win by a small margin. Gloating after winning the World Series on an eight game winning streak is justified, gloating after winning the series in the seventh game by one run with questionable calls by the umpires, well, that just makes you ridiculous.
IAAR: Actually, not everybody gloats. Some people just take the win and go about their business. Gloaters tend to be people who felt insecure about their chances of winning and therefore feel overly-vindicated even when they only win by a small margin. Gloating after winning the World Series on an eight game winning streak is justified, gloating after winning the series in the seventh game by one run with questionable calls by the umpires, well, that just makes you ridiculous.
so its our country now
Until it's time to clean up the messes and pay the bills. Then even the people in Kansas will beg for the Democrats to clean the Augean stables Republicans have made. And at the rate you folks are spending your 3% "man-date", that could start as early as 2006.
so its our country now
Until it's time to clean up the messes and pay the bills. Then even the people in Kansas will beg for the Democrats to clean the Augean stables Republicans have made. And at the rate you folks are spending your 3% "man-date", that could start as early as 2006.
It is most assuredly not a softball game.
Not softball, hardball. Sometimes you throw a high hard one, sometimes curveball, and sometimes you deke to win.
It is most assuredly not a softball game.
Not softball, hardball. Sometimes you throw a high hard one, sometimes curveball, and sometimes you deke to win.
I have to tell you that on Hannity's radio show, btw, he actually said that he was going to Phoenix (sometime in the near future) and that they were going to have a "gloat" fest. What a nice, moral, upstanding citizen that Sean is.
I have to tell you that on Hannity's radio show, btw, he actually said that he was going to Phoenix (sometime in the near future) and that they were going to have a "gloat" fest. What a nice, moral, upstanding citizen that Sean is.
For as long as I live I will look back and actually feel, viscerally, my disgust for this administration. Like you can remember the smell of summer rain when you were a child, or exactly what you were feeling when your favorite song was playing as a teenager, I will always be flooded with an intense sensation of disgust -- this I will never cease to feel until the day I die.
Funny, my feelings about Nixon and Reagan have long since dissipated. Never with this one.
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For as long as I live I will look back and actually feel, viscerally, my disgust for this administration. Like you can remember the smell of summer rain when you were a child, or exactly what you were feeling when your favorite song was playing as a teenager, I will always be flooded with an intense sensation of disgust -- this I will never cease to feel until the day I die.
Funny, my feelings about Nixon and Reagan have long since dissipated. Never with this one.
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This was written a few days before the election but is a scary look at the real Republican agenda, worth reading now.
In fact, what is at stake in the election is not the future of Roe v. Wade, school prayer, or any of the culture-war issues that have inflamed the country since the 1970s. The left may be hesitant to acknowledge it, but the Rehnquist Court has largely sided with liberals rather than conservatives in these cultural battles. It has done so because liberals have won in the court of public opinion. And the chance of either Bush or Kerry getting through the Senate justices who want to revisit those well-settled precedents is low.
This was written a few days before the election but is a scary look at the real Republican agenda, worth reading now.
In fact, what is at stake in the election is not the future of Roe v. Wade, school prayer, or any of the culture-war issues that have inflamed the country since the 1970s. The left may be hesitant to acknowledge it, but the Rehnquist Court has largely sided with liberals rather than conservatives in these cultural battles. It has done so because liberals have won in the court of public opinion. And the chance of either Bush or Kerry getting through the Senate justices who want to revisit those well-settled precedents is low.
I'm happy right here in Kansas.
Good, stay there. As a blue stater who pays more in federal taxes than we get back, we'd like to cancel our "red state welfare" that keeps you above the level of a dustbowl.
You're so "self-sufficient" and all, I'm sure you'll be glad to be free once and for all of all the vile money of godless, elite, gay-loving blue state heathens who carry your sorry-assed state's economy.
Oh, and good luck. Maybe you can read "Little House on the Prairie" for some tips on how to run your state.
I'm happy right here in Kansas.
Good, stay there. As a blue stater who pays more in federal taxes than we get back, we'd like to cancel our "red state welfare" that keeps you above the level of a dustbowl.
You're so "self-sufficient" and all, I'm sure you'll be glad to be free once and for all of all the vile money of godless, elite, gay-loving blue state heathens who carry your sorry-assed state's economy.
Oh, and good luck. Maybe you can read "Little House on the Prairie" for some tips on how to run your state.
.I have a feeling that the second term of this moron is going to be much worse than the first.
Hi Vicki, Have you noticed that none of the people leaving are neocons? That's the worst part.
.I have a feeling that the second term of this moron is going to be much worse than the first.
Hi Vicki, Have you noticed that none of the people leaving are neocons? That's the worst part.
Gloating after winning the World Series on an eight game winning streak is justified, gloating after winning the series in the seventh game by one run with questionable calls by the umpires, well, that just makes you ridiculous.
Yes, but we won big and fair and square.
Gloating after winning the World Series on an eight game winning streak is justified, gloating after winning the series in the seventh game by one run with questionable calls by the umpires, well, that just makes you ridiculous.
Yes, but we won big and fair and square.
Stinky | Email | Homepage | 11.15.04 - 9:12 pm | #
jesus fucking christ. some people. get a grip. a critique against kerry doesn't mean i'm advancing the republican cause. why don't you hold off a second on the trigger finger so that you can see that i'm a supporter of dean and not a freeper troll.
Stinky | Email | Homepage | 11.15.04 - 9:12 pm | #
jesus fucking christ. some people. get a grip. a critique against kerry doesn't mean i'm advancing the republican cause. why don't you hold off a second on the trigger finger so that you can see that i'm a supporter of dean and not a freeper troll.
jsg - & Vicki - yep. I"m beginning to think this term might make the last one look "moderate."
Oy
jsg - & Vicki - yep. I"m beginning to think this term might make the last one look "moderate."
Oy
jsg
They are going to destory themselves at the pace they are going. They fooled the country into thinking their way is best, now they are dumping the intellect that allowed them to stagger along. Now they are flying solo. It is going to be messy as hell, but they are about to end up trying to deadstick this admin into a landing and they really don't have the stuff to do it.
However, we should be making sure we are not under them when they hit.
I wouldn't stand there, you might want to move over a bit. Yep thats better. Oh and duck.
jsg
They are going to destory themselves at the pace they are going. They fooled the country into thinking their way is best, now they are dumping the intellect that allowed them to stagger along. Now they are flying solo. It is going to be messy as hell, but they are about to end up trying to deadstick this admin into a landing and they really don't have the stuff to do it.
However, we should be making sure we are not under them when they hit.
I wouldn't stand there, you might want to move over a bit. Yep thats better. Oh and duck.
Yes, but we won big and fair and square.
I Am a Republican | Email | Homepage | 11.15.04 - 9:21 pm | #
Ahhh, well, if you'd like to live that fantasy best not to interupt. Continue being delusional then...sorry for the rude interuption.
Yes, but we won big and fair and square.
I Am a Republican | Email | Homepage | 11.15.04 - 9:21 pm | #
Ahhh, well, if you'd like to live that fantasy best not to interupt. Continue being delusional then...sorry for the rude interuption.
No way am I getting married to uber butch Condi what with that monster she's packing. They don't call her little Cheney for nothing.
No way am I getting married to uber butch Condi what with that monster she's packing. They don't call her little Cheney for nothing.
ah destroy....dang it.
ah destroy....dang it.
jsg, yeah, I noticed that. I really believe that we are at a watershed, and that the sheeple are being misled by one of two factions: the Neocons, or the dominionists. I think we're in deep trouble. And I'm worried to the point where I am making wholesale lifestyle changes. In addition to not spending, I'm looking for a new job and I want to liquidate my finances.
I'm not a doomsayer, not by a long shot, and not usually. But we are moving from bad to worse.
It's going to be a wild ride, I'm afraid.
jsg, yeah, I noticed that. I really believe that we are at a watershed, and that the sheeple are being misled by one of two factions: the Neocons, or the dominionists. I think we're in deep trouble. And I'm worried to the point where I am making wholesale lifestyle changes. In addition to not spending, I'm looking for a new job and I want to liquidate my finances.
I'm not a doomsayer, not by a long shot, and not usually. But we are moving from bad to worse.
It's going to be a wild ride, I'm afraid.
Good, stay there. As a blue stater who pays more in federal taxes than we get back, we'd like to cancel our "red state welfare" that keeps you above the level of a dustbowl.
The Blue States are free to leave anytime. But then you'd be like France, and no one wants to be like France. I was reading some articule where a good conservative says we should show you the door.
But it wouldn't happen because blue states need our food.
Good, stay there. As a blue stater who pays more in federal taxes than we get back, we'd like to cancel our "red state welfare" that keeps you above the level of a dustbowl.
The Blue States are free to leave anytime. But then you'd be like France, and no one wants to be like France. I was reading some articule where a good conservative says we should show you the door.
But it wouldn't happen because blue states need our food.
"Rewarding Incompetence: Brought to you by Bush/Cheney"
So Condi gets Colin's job, Hadley get's Condi's job...who gets his job? They're just shifting people up. Eventually there will be one empty entry-level job that there won't be anyone to shift into, so they'll hire from outside. Probably give it to Simone Ledeen.
"Rewarding Incompetence: Brought to you by Bush/Cheney"
So Condi gets Colin's job, Hadley get's Condi's job...who gets his job? They're just shifting people up. Eventually there will be one empty entry-level job that there won't be anyone to shift into, so they'll hire from outside. Probably give it to Simone Ledeen.
Jeez, what is it with people lately that when you disagree with them they immediately get defensive? It must be something in the harmony of the spheres that is out of whack.
Jeez, what is it with people lately that when you disagree with them they immediately get defensive? It must be something in the harmony of the spheres that is out of whack.
Yes, but we won big and fair and square.
Most of the people who voted for Bush are the biggest losers of all.
Yes, but we won big and fair and square.
Most of the people who voted for Bush are the biggest losers of all.
Hey, Mehlman, you ugly little bitch, lay off my girrrl Condi or I'll scratch yo scabby face off!
Hey, Mehlman, you ugly little bitch, lay off my girrrl Condi or I'll scratch yo scabby face off!
Let's hope that he's not as well hung as Dick Cheney is. Cheney's an absolute monster.
Hell, Cheney's the type of asshole who straps a kielbasa to his leg to impress the ladies.
As for Mehlman's private life... bwa ha ha ha ha... Duncan is right. Fuck that, we're at war- take no prisoners!!
And thersites, excellent T-shirt! though I suggest a slight edit:
Out them All-
Let Dobson sort them out.
Let's hope that he's not as well hung as Dick Cheney is. Cheney's an absolute monster.
Hell, Cheney's the type of asshole who straps a kielbasa to his leg to impress the ladies.
As for Mehlman's private life... bwa ha ha ha ha... Duncan is right. Fuck that, we're at war- take no prisoners!!
And thersites, excellent T-shirt! though I suggest a slight edit:
Out them All-
Let Dobson sort them out.
...blue states need our food.
Not California...
...blue states need our food.
Not California...
bliekker: I second that. We can grow anything in California.
bliekker: I second that. We can grow anything in California.
But it wouldn't happen because blue states need our food.
Wow.
We have enough to last us a very long time.
But it wouldn't happen because blue states need our food.
Wow.
We have enough to last us a very long time.
Ahhh, well, if you'd like to live that fantasy best not to interupt. Continue being delusional then...sorry for the rude interuption.
Huh? Dude, check the results:
* Nine million new votes for GWB
* GWB wins popular vote by three million
* GOP increases House and Senate seats.
That's no fantasy.
Ahhh, well, if you'd like to live that fantasy best not to interupt. Continue being delusional then...sorry for the rude interuption.
Huh? Dude, check the results:
* Nine million new votes for GWB
* GWB wins popular vote by three million
* GOP increases House and Senate seats.
That's no fantasy.
I've been very guilty all day of feeding the trolls and they have multiplied all day. I am really very sorry that I ever read one or answered one today.
Please accept my apology. I assure you I will try my utmost not to let down the threads again.
I've been very guilty all day of feeding the trolls and they have multiplied all day. I am really very sorry that I ever read one or answered one today.
Please accept my apology. I assure you I will try my utmost not to let down the threads again.
Fuck, I'll grow my food in a chia pet planter if I have to...
Fuck, I'll grow my food in a chia pet planter if I have to...
Wow.
We have enough to last us a very long time.
How much food does Manhattan grow? Everyone knows the breadbasket is Kansas and Oklahoma. We have the farms and the food. Which is why we charge a premium to the blue states for the food.
Wow.
We have enough to last us a very long time.
How much food does Manhattan grow? Everyone knows the breadbasket is Kansas and Oklahoma. We have the farms and the food. Which is why we charge a premium to the blue states for the food.
Tena
You are simply following current Bush anti-terrorist activities. By keeping the trolls pre-occupied here, they are too busy to pester the rest of the internet. You are being a true TCIPatriot.
Salute!
Tena
You are simply following current Bush anti-terrorist activities. By keeping the trolls pre-occupied here, they are too busy to pester the rest of the internet. You are being a true TCIPatriot.
Salute!
I've fed trolls, too ~ especially on Friday.
It's the Catholic girl voice in me that makes me feel really, really guilty when I do. It's not fun...it's counter productive.
I've fed trolls, too ~ especially on Friday.
It's the Catholic girl voice in me that makes me feel really, really guilty when I do. It's not fun...it's counter productive.
But it wouldn't happen because blue states need our food.
I Am a Republican
Oh right. California needs food from Kansas.
You want us to leave and take our blue states with us? Be careful what you wish for.
You'd better hope the rapture comes soon boy.
But it wouldn't happen because blue states need our food.
I Am a Republican
Oh right. California needs food from Kansas.
You want us to leave and take our blue states with us? Be careful what you wish for.
You'd better hope the rapture comes soon boy.
I realize that low-ball, gutter politics may be the only thing they understand. It's one of the things we dislike them for. So why stoop to it? Again, "outing" Mehlman (which is what Atrios is doing -- I hadn't heard these rumors before, so Atrios "outed" him to me, as well as most others here, I'll bet) is nothing more than combatting an alleged hypocrisy (because we don't know if he's gay) with a very actual hypocrisy. What's the logic here? That we should abandon our principles so that we can assert them later? That's nothing more than a quest for power for its own sake, IMO.
I realize that low-ball, gutter politics may be the only thing they understand. It's one of the things we dislike them for. So why stoop to it? Again, "outing" Mehlman (which is what Atrios is doing -- I hadn't heard these rumors before, so Atrios "outed" him to me, as well as most others here, I'll bet) is nothing more than combatting an alleged hypocrisy (because we don't know if he's gay) with a very actual hypocrisy. What's the logic here? That we should abandon our principles so that we can assert them later? That's nothing more than a quest for power for its own sake, IMO.
Ken Mehlman
Franklin & Marshall College Class of 1988
Just sayin'...
Ken Mehlman
Franklin & Marshall College Class of 1988
Just sayin'...
bliekker: I second that. We can grow anything in California.
What? All California grows are grapes. Where are you going to get the wheat? The beef? The corn? The cotton?
Kansas charges California for that stuff, which is why we get your money.
bliekker: I second that. We can grow anything in California.
What? All California grows are grapes. Where are you going to get the wheat? The beef? The corn? The cotton?
Kansas charges California for that stuff, which is why we get your money.
Everyone knows the breadbasket is Kansas and Oklahoma. We have the farms and the food. Which is why we charge a premium to the blue states for the food.
See guys? this is what education produces in the red states.
Complete and utter nonsense.
Everyone knows the breadbasket is Kansas and Oklahoma. We have the farms and the food. Which is why we charge a premium to the blue states for the food.
See guys? this is what education produces in the red states.
Complete and utter nonsense.
Oh right. California needs food from Kansas.
You want us to leave and take our blue states with us? Be careful what you wish for.
It does! California takes food from Kansas. And water. There's no water in LA unless it comes from us.
Why should we keep subsidizing your suburbs? We can eat the food and drink the water here.
Oh right. California needs food from Kansas.
You want us to leave and take our blue states with us? Be careful what you wish for.
It does! California takes food from Kansas. And water. There's no water in LA unless it comes from us.
Why should we keep subsidizing your suburbs? We can eat the food and drink the water here.
Sometimes I screech like a monkey and throw my poop and pee on the internet. I like attention. My daddy's attention 'specially
Sometimes I screech like a monkey and throw my poop and pee on the internet. I like attention. My daddy's attention 'specially
Has anyone ever had artichokes from California? They are yummy. I could live on artichokes, grapes (my vino) and seafood...
just sayin'.
Has anyone ever had artichokes from California? They are yummy. I could live on artichokes, grapes (my vino) and seafood...
just sayin'.
See guys? this is what education produces in the red states.
Complete and utter nonsense.
How is it nonsense? Do we not have the farms? We do. Where do you think New York gets its food? From the Magic Grocery Store?
No, they get their food from us.
See guys? this is what education produces in the red states.
Complete and utter nonsense.
How is it nonsense? Do we not have the farms? We do. Where do you think New York gets its food? From the Magic Grocery Store?
No, they get their food from us.
Maybe the Mehlman cat is "vigorously heterosexual" and they're afraid he'll give the good white Christian women of America a bad case of the vapors.
And the "I Am A Republican" troll is yankin' y'all's collective chain. He's the "Bush Rocks" guy from yesterday. Just here to fuck shit up.
Maybe the Mehlman cat is "vigorously heterosexual" and they're afraid he'll give the good white Christian women of America a bad case of the vapors.
And the "I Am A Republican" troll is yankin' y'all's collective chain. He's the "Bush Rocks" guy from yesterday. Just here to fuck shit up.
Has anyone ever had artichokes from California? They are yummy. I could live on artichokes, grapes (my vino) and seafood...
Okay, we'll keep our beef, chickens, corn, and water.
How you gonna make wine without water?
Has anyone ever had artichokes from California? They are yummy. I could live on artichokes, grapes (my vino) and seafood...
Okay, we'll keep our beef, chickens, corn, and water.
How you gonna make wine without water?
Well, most everyone else is, but I won't. You know why? Because it is his private life. If our side believes in the principle that people should be treated equally regardless of sexual orientation, then don't make it an issue in re Ken Mehlman.
Let us suppose that a party (Party R) proposes and passes amendments in several states to forbid Jews from marrying non-Jews, or to forbid Jews from holding public office, or from being school-teachers, or whatever. Their opposition party (Party D) supports equal treatment of everyone, no matter what religion or ethnicity they are.
Let us further suppose that we found out some of the people working for Party R are, in fact, Jewish.
Is it somehow hypocritical (or even anti-semitic) to simply point out, in this case, that some of the people working for Party R are Jewish?
Well, most everyone else is, but I won't. You know why? Because it is his private life. If our side believes in the principle that people should be treated equally regardless of sexual orientation, then don't make it an issue in re Ken Mehlman.
Let us suppose that a party (Party R) proposes and passes amendments in several states to forbid Jews from marrying non-Jews, or to forbid Jews from holding public office, or from being school-teachers, or whatever. Their opposition party (Party D) supports equal treatment of everyone, no matter what religion or ethnicity they are.
Let us further suppose that we found out some of the people working for Party R are, in fact, Jewish.
Is it somehow hypocritical (or even anti-semitic) to simply point out, in this case, that some of the people working for Party R are Jewish?
Anyone thinking Kevin Sites better watch his back?
Anyone thinking Kevin Sites better watch his back?
Hi Backslider! You are a dose of sanity!
Hi Backslider! You are a dose of sanity!
* GWB wins popular vote by three million
Nah.
* GWB wins popular vote by three million
Nah.
Actually, I've seen the "red states produce" all the food meme on a couple websites. I wonder how valid this is...from what I understand, most of the food Americans get from the grocery stores comes from Latin America (particularly your veggies) or overseas. Most of the beef comes from here, though, and we all know how safe and drug-free (and cow-part free) that is.
Oddly enough, unless things have changed drastically, most of the foodstuffs "America's Breadbasket" produces goes - you guessed it - overseas. And that's not counting the mountains and mountains of grain and wheat we got in silos and storage, just rotting away so as to keep prices up. And then there's the massive subsidies the corn lobby gets even though corn is in just about every food you eat, one way or another, and the human body really doesn't digest well in such mass quantities.
Hell, maybe it wouldn't be such a bad idea if we didn't get what food we got from the Heartland. Set up some nice progressive organic-minded farming legislature, cut back on pesticides and herbicides - which are mostly unneccessary - cut out growth hormones in cattle and fowl, as well as rendering animals into cattle feed. Shit, might not be a bad idea at all.
Actually, I've seen the "red states produce" all the food meme on a couple websites. I wonder how valid this is...from what I understand, most of the food Americans get from the grocery stores comes from Latin America (particularly your veggies) or overseas. Most of the beef comes from here, though, and we all know how safe and drug-free (and cow-part free) that is.
Oddly enough, unless things have changed drastically, most of the foodstuffs "America's Breadbasket" produces goes - you guessed it - overseas. And that's not counting the mountains and mountains of grain and wheat we got in silos and storage, just rotting away so as to keep prices up. And then there's the massive subsidies the corn lobby gets even though corn is in just about every food you eat, one way or another, and the human body really doesn't digest well in such mass quantities.
Hell, maybe it wouldn't be such a bad idea if we didn't get what food we got from the Heartland. Set up some nice progressive organic-minded farming legislature, cut back on pesticides and herbicides - which are mostly unneccessary - cut out growth hormones in cattle and fowl, as well as rendering animals into cattle feed. Shit, might not be a bad idea at all.
Hi Backslider! You are a dose of sanity!
Vicki Stein | Email | Homepage | 11.15.04 - 9:44 pm | #
Boy, are you in trouble, then.
Hi Backslider! You are a dose of sanity!
Vicki Stein | Email | Homepage | 11.15.04 - 9:44 pm | #
Boy, are you in trouble, then.
Where do you think New York gets its food?
New Jersey and Pennsylvania.
Where do you think New York gets its food?
New Jersey and Pennsylvania.
I don't know which is worse. The fucking queers who are all over the place proudly proclaiming their love of the same sex or the fucking queers who hate themselves so much they want to relegate their whole population to concentration camps.
Fucking queers. I still don't know what the big fucking deal is either way.
I don't know which is worse. The fucking queers who are all over the place proudly proclaiming their love of the same sex or the fucking queers who hate themselves so much they want to relegate their whole population to concentration camps.
Fucking queers. I still don't know what the big fucking deal is either way.
Artichokes and tofu, maybe a few strawberries from Northern Ca and I'm good to go... buh bye, red states, I hardly missed you!
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Artichokes and tofu, maybe a few strawberries from Northern Ca and I'm good to go... buh bye, red states, I hardly missed you!
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Okay, we'll keep our beef, chickens, corn, and water.
Don't got those things up here in the North.
Nope.
Okay, we'll keep our beef, chickens, corn, and water.
Don't got those things up here in the North.
Nope.
My father (in SW Pa) would grow enough vegetables on a couple of acres to keep us largely out of the grocery stores. Start a garden as a political action. (That's not why my father did, though.)
My father (in SW Pa) would grow enough vegetables on a couple of acres to keep us largely out of the grocery stores. Start a garden as a political action. (That's not why my father did, though.)
We also have juicy watermelons here in CA... keep us hydrated quite nicely.
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We also have juicy watermelons here in CA... keep us hydrated quite nicely.
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Jenny ~ mmmm... strawberries!...I'm with ya! Plus, the staples in CA are much better for you than those from the red states. Who needs the grain and taters when they're following South Beach? (cough cough ~ I need to lose a couple)...
Jenny ~ mmmm... strawberries!...I'm with ya! Plus, the staples in CA are much better for you than those from the red states. Who needs the grain and taters when they're following South Beach? (cough cough ~ I need to lose a couple)...
pie, I thought I read that you are in Michigan. It isn't like we have any water here, right? Nope, no water here...move along.
pie, I thought I read that you are in Michigan. It isn't like we have any water here, right? Nope, no water here...move along.
My future I firmly feel's
in the home of a brave an free male
who enjoys bein a guy
havin a girl like me!
My future I firmly feel's
in the home of a brave an free male
who enjoys bein a guy
havin a girl like me!
And actually, if I recall correctly, Southern California gets the bulk of its water from Northern California. One of the Left Coast groovies can clear this up if I'm mistaken, though, but I believe there was also some hullabaloo about getting it from British Columbia and not wanting to pay for it.
Which brings up another question: if you're gung-ho about cutting off agua to those hated libruls in El Lay and points north, are you also willing to cut the spigot off your ideological compadres in Orange County and the like?
And one should note that right here in Red State Georgia, the water's so goddamn nasty it's not even funny. Frankly, drinking water all over the country - particularly in towns with populations above 15,000 - isn't fit for human consumption. Someone had the brilliant idea to ease regulations on water cleanliness and dumping proceedures. Why, you ask? Why, profit, of course, which makes it all a-okay.
And actually, if I recall correctly, Southern California gets the bulk of its water from Northern California. One of the Left Coast groovies can clear this up if I'm mistaken, though, but I believe there was also some hullabaloo about getting it from British Columbia and not wanting to pay for it.
Which brings up another question: if you're gung-ho about cutting off agua to those hated libruls in El Lay and points north, are you also willing to cut the spigot off your ideological compadres in Orange County and the like?
And one should note that right here in Red State Georgia, the water's so goddamn nasty it's not even funny. Frankly, drinking water all over the country - particularly in towns with populations above 15,000 - isn't fit for human consumption. Someone had the brilliant idea to ease regulations on water cleanliness and dumping proceedures. Why, you ask? Why, profit, of course, which makes it all a-okay.
It's really sad to see such a lack of geographical knowledge. As if New York is all Manhattan. As if there wasn't agriculture in other blue states. Not to mention a lack of historical knowledge.
It was tried once before, and the red states lost then, too, even though they thought the blue states would starve without them.
It helps to know a little about a few things.
It's really sad to see such a lack of geographical knowledge. As if New York is all Manhattan. As if there wasn't agriculture in other blue states. Not to mention a lack of historical knowledge.
It was tried once before, and the red states lost then, too, even though they thought the blue states would starve without them.
It helps to know a little about a few things.
Vicki -
We don't need no red state carbs! Long live strawberries...
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Vicki -
We don't need no red state carbs! Long live strawberries...
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But the truth is that there are no red states and blue states. There are purple states for the most part.
All this war between the states crap is silly.
But the truth is that there are no red states and blue states. There are purple states for the most part.
All this war between the states crap is silly.
But it wouldn't happen because blue states need our food.
I Am a Republican
You think blue states need your food with all the agricultural imports we have coming in from Chile and Peru? What a dumbass you are.
And what's sick is that they're cheaper than what you sell - the only thing bailing your sorry Kansan ass out is farm subsidies. And those are gone, remember?? After all, you're too "self-sufficient" to need blue state bailouts.
And without our ports, your grain can rot in the silos. Where's your market? Other red states? (Thanks, it's the best laugh I've had all day)
Plus, I live in a nice blue state where we grow corn and wheat and apples and onions and all that nice stuff - we don't need you or your red state "values". Or anything you have to sell.
We don't need Kansas at all. We really don't.
Bye. Enjoy your "Little House on the Prairie" and all your family values - hope ya don't starve too quick.
But it wouldn't happen because blue states need our food.
I Am a Republican
You think blue states need your food with all the agricultural imports we have coming in from Chile and Peru? What a dumbass you are.
And what's sick is that they're cheaper than what you sell - the only thing bailing your sorry Kansan ass out is farm subsidies. And those are gone, remember?? After all, you're too "self-sufficient" to need blue state bailouts.
And without our ports, your grain can rot in the silos. Where's your market? Other red states? (Thanks, it's the best laugh I've had all day)
Plus, I live in a nice blue state where we grow corn and wheat and apples and onions and all that nice stuff - we don't need you or your red state "values". Or anything you have to sell.
We don't need Kansas at all. We really don't.
Bye. Enjoy your "Little House on the Prairie" and all your family values - hope ya don't starve too quick.
Tena,
Dig that, sister.
Tena,
Dig that, sister.
Vicki. yes. I'm in MI.
We got it all here.
'cept enough jobs.
Vicki. yes. I'm in MI.
We got it all here.
'cept enough jobs.
Whom. Whom Ken Mehlman is screwing.
Andy
Or what. I mean, the theoretical implications are truly staggering...
Whom. Whom Ken Mehlman is screwing.
Andy
Or what. I mean, the theoretical implications are truly staggering...
Okay, we'll keep our beef, chickens, corn, and water.
How you gonna make wine without water?
I Am a Republican
What do they teach you guys in Kansas, that God made the world in 6 days and put all the water in the dustbowl?
Okay, we'll keep our beef, chickens, corn, and water.
How you gonna make wine without water?
I Am a Republican
What do they teach you guys in Kansas, that God made the world in 6 days and put all the water in the dustbowl?
Hey "I am a republican" !
You know you can't live without California-
where will you get your porn from?
Hey "I am a republican" !
You know you can't live without California-
where will you get your porn from?
Well if someone wants to keep the concept of red state vs. blue state going.
If we all went to our imagined corners and stood on principle, would it last.
Consider Dick Cheney and Halliburton. They did back door business with Iraq at a time when it was verboten.
Guarantee a Red Stater who knows he can make money in them Blue State hills will cross the picket line.
Well if someone wants to keep the concept of red state vs. blue state going.
If we all went to our imagined corners and stood on principle, would it last.
Consider Dick Cheney and Halliburton. They did back door business with Iraq at a time when it was verboten.
Guarantee a Red Stater who knows he can make money in them Blue State hills will cross the picket line.
All this war between the states crap is silly.
Oh, *silly* doesn't even to begin to describe it.
We all need food, shelter, jobs, healthcare...
All this war between the states crap is silly.
Oh, *silly* doesn't even to begin to describe it.
We all need food, shelter, jobs, healthcare...
Is it somehow hypocritical (or even anti-semitic) to simply point out, in this case, that some of the people working for Party R are Jewish?
We're talking about one person who has chosen not to discuss his sexual orientation. Presumably we're past the point when someone would feel compelled to keep their Jewishness a secret, so I don't think your parallel applies here.
Look, if Mehlman is gay and comes out, then by all means we can hammer him for being hypocritical. His answer might be that his sexual orientation doesn't trump his belief in conservative policies in re the economy or foreign affairs. So be it.
Is it somehow hypocritical (or even anti-semitic) to simply point out, in this case, that some of the people working for Party R are Jewish?
We're talking about one person who has chosen not to discuss his sexual orientation. Presumably we're past the point when someone would feel compelled to keep their Jewishness a secret, so I don't think your parallel applies here.
Look, if Mehlman is gay and comes out, then by all means we can hammer him for being hypocritical. His answer might be that his sexual orientation doesn't trump his belief in conservative policies in re the economy or foreign affairs. So be it.
pie, I am saddened to read about your mother. I'm sending good thoughts your way.
pie, I am saddened to read about your mother. I'm sending good thoughts your way.
If Mehlman comes out, and I think he won't, then he should be treated as a a collaborator. Stop thinking like people who live in a civil society. I mean, don't savage him, but get after him with direct and hard questions about his involvement in a party that DENIES HIS HUMANITY.
If Mehlman comes out, and I think he won't, then he should be treated as a a collaborator. Stop thinking like people who live in a civil society. I mean, don't savage him, but get after him with direct and hard questions about his involvement in a party that DENIES HIS HUMANITY.
His answer might be that his sexual orientation doesn't trump his belief in conservative policies in re the economy or foreign affairs. So be it.
I don't give a fuck if he's gay.
He is going to be in way more trouble for his belief in conservative policies in re the economy and foreign affairs.
I'll kick his ass. He's wrong.
His answer might be that his sexual orientation doesn't trump his belief in conservative policies in re the economy or foreign affairs. So be it.
I don't give a fuck if he's gay.
He is going to be in way more trouble for his belief in conservative policies in re the economy and foreign affairs.
I'll kick his ass. He's wrong.
Thanks, Vicki.
Thanks, Vicki.
Oh, *silly* doesn't even to begin to describe it.
We all need food, shelter, jobs, healthcare...
pie
We do, but that's not what the red staters profess to want. They want "moral values" if their kids starve and their wives die in childbirth.
We "blue staters" are just a bunch of intellectual elites and godless heathens, which is why we're so concerned about the Rust Belt and unemployed factory workers and Wal-Marts shutting down local businesses and mining companies that blow the tops off of mountains in West Virginia and put miners in unsafe working conditions and pollute the air and groundwater.
You can't save people who don't want to be saved - it's like trying to rehabilitate an alcoholic who doesn't think they have a problem.
When red states get tired of those conditions, when they hit rock bottom and figure out that the Republicans don't give a shit about them, and they might be ready to vote for a change.
Til then, it's foolish to try to convince someone wants a Bible more than bread on the table and a steady paycheck that he's hungry.
Oh, *silly* doesn't even to begin to describe it.
We all need food, shelter, jobs, healthcare...
pie
We do, but that's not what the red staters profess to want. They want "moral values" if their kids starve and their wives die in childbirth.
We "blue staters" are just a bunch of intellectual elites and godless heathens, which is why we're so concerned about the Rust Belt and unemployed factory workers and Wal-Marts shutting down local businesses and mining companies that blow the tops off of mountains in West Virginia and put miners in unsafe working conditions and pollute the air and groundwater.
You can't save people who don't want to be saved - it's like trying to rehabilitate an alcoholic who doesn't think they have a problem.
When red states get tired of those conditions, when they hit rock bottom and figure out that the Republicans don't give a shit about them, and they might be ready to vote for a change.
Til then, it's foolish to try to convince someone wants a Bible more than bread on the table and a steady paycheck that he's hungry.
Sam,
We're not asking if Mehlman is gay. We're asking if he's straight.
If he was a straight man, wouldn't he come right out (no pun intended) and say it?
I'm straight, and I'll tell you that without hesitation. Why won't Mehlman admit that he's straight?
Sam,
We're not asking if Mehlman is gay. We're asking if he's straight.
If he was a straight man, wouldn't he come right out (no pun intended) and say it?
I'm straight, and I'll tell you that without hesitation. Why won't Mehlman admit that he's straight?
We do, but that's not what the red staters profess to want.
Bull.
We do, but that's not what the red staters profess to want.
Bull.
four more queers!
Racicot, Rice, Mehlman. Who else ya got?
Miguel Estrada, in case you missed an earlier thread
four more queers!
Racicot, Rice, Mehlman. Who else ya got?
Miguel Estrada, in case you missed an earlier thread
I just saw a picture of Mehlman that makes him look like Gumby dammit.
I just saw a picture of Mehlman that makes him look like Gumby dammit.
We sure hope some of our red stater friends help us with a little wheat. Out here is liberal commie California we would probably starve with the farmers in Jesusland
California
$1.4 Trillion Gross State Product
Fifth largest economy in the world
Largest state economy in the U.S.
State's economy is 13% of GDP
We sure hope some of our red stater friends help us with a little wheat. Out here is liberal commie California we would probably starve with the farmers in Jesusland
California
$1.4 Trillion Gross State Product
Fifth largest economy in the world
Largest state economy in the U.S.
State's economy is 13% of GDP
Gay or not, how anyone can accept the Republican Party's anti-gay agenda in 2004 is beyond me. It's pretty much spelled out. If you are trying to keep someone from having the same rights as everyone else, you're exclusive, not inclusive.
I so hope the party implodes, doing serious damage to itself. I know it will. It has to. It is off on a wild path right now. Memo to Republican Party: You can't keep fucking with people ~ eventually, the people will have had enough, and it's your ass in the frying pan.
Gay or not, how anyone can accept the Republican Party's anti-gay agenda in 2004 is beyond me. It's pretty much spelled out. If you are trying to keep someone from having the same rights as everyone else, you're exclusive, not inclusive.
I so hope the party implodes, doing serious damage to itself. I know it will. It has to. It is off on a wild path right now. Memo to Republican Party: You can't keep fucking with people ~ eventually, the people will have had enough, and it's your ass in the frying pan.
I just saw a picture of Mehlman that makes him look like Gumby dammit.
I just saw a picture of Mehlman that makes him look like Gumby dammit.
I don't give a fuck if he's gay.
He is going to be in way more trouble for his belief in conservative policies in re the economy and foreign affairs.
I'll kick his ass. He's wrong.
Hey, I'm with you on that.
We're not asking if Mehlman is gay. We're asking if he's straight.
If he was a straight man, wouldn't he come right out (no pun intended) and say it?
I'm straight, and I'll tell you that without hesitation. Why won't Mehlman admit that he's straight?
I don't know, maybe it's personal experience. I'm straight, but have often been thought of as gay. Or, the way I like to put it, some straight people think I might be gay, but most gay people are pretty sure I'm straight. It used to bother me and I'd get defensive, but now I'm 38 and don't care. In fact, I find it amusing. Maybe that's where Mehlman is at. Could be he's decided he's had to explain his sexual orientation enough for one lifetime, and just isn't going to do it anymore. If so, I say good for him.
Ugh, all this Mehlman-defending is getting to me. He is, after all, a mealy-mouthed marionette dweeb!!
I don't give a fuck if he's gay.
He is going to be in way more trouble for his belief in conservative policies in re the economy and foreign affairs.
I'll kick his ass. He's wrong.
Hey, I'm with you on that.
We're not asking if Mehlman is gay. We're asking if he's straight.
If he was a straight man, wouldn't he come right out (no pun intended) and say it?
I'm straight, and I'll tell you that without hesitation. Why won't Mehlman admit that he's straight?
I don't know, maybe it's personal experience. I'm straight, but have often been thought of as gay. Or, the way I like to put it, some straight people think I might be gay, but most gay people are pretty sure I'm straight. It used to bother me and I'd get defensive, but now I'm 38 and don't care. In fact, I find it amusing. Maybe that's where Mehlman is at. Could be he's decided he's had to explain his sexual orientation enough for one lifetime, and just isn't going to do it anymore. If so, I say good for him.
Ugh, all this Mehlman-defending is getting to me. He is, after all, a mealy-mouthed marionette dweeb!!
I can't type anymore.
I can't type anymore.
We do, but that's not what the red staters profess to want.
Bull.
pie
I respectfully disagree. They may want these things, but not badly enough to stop voting for people who don't represent their economic interests.
We do, but that's not what the red staters profess to want.
Bull.
pie
I respectfully disagree. They may want these things, but not badly enough to stop voting for people who don't represent their economic interests.
straight or gay:
Mehlman may well be Gumby.
Dammit
straight or gay:
Mehlman may well be Gumby.
Dammit
I'm perfectly happy to refer to him as "the possibly gay Ken Mehlman" in the future. I don't think that's outing him.
I'm perfectly happy to refer to him as "the possibly gay Ken Mehlman" in the future. I don't think that's outing him.
Come on, Stinky. They didn't all vote for the moron. Not by a long shot.
Come on, Stinky. They didn't all vote for the moron. Not by a long shot.
Pie - I'm sorry, I missed where you talked about your mother - I scrolled and can't find it. Might I ask what is wrong?
Pie - I'm sorry, I missed where you talked about your mother - I scrolled and can't find it. Might I ask what is wrong?
pie,
Sorry to hear about your mother.
Mine died from cancer last year.
I have a pretty good idea what you're going through.
pie,
Sorry to hear about your mother.
Mine died from cancer last year.
I have a pretty good idea what you're going through.
Me too, Pie. My prayers are with you and mom.
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Me too, Pie. My prayers are with you and mom.
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Look, blue states do not have populations that are 100% liberal democrats. Stop this nonsense, please. Do you really want to live in a divided nation where you have to have a passport and Visa to go to your niece's wedding?
We are all Americans. Place the blame where it belongs - on the propaganda masters. Quit blaming their victims.
Look, blue states do not have populations that are 100% liberal democrats. Stop this nonsense, please. Do you really want to live in a divided nation where you have to have a passport and Visa to go to your niece's wedding?
We are all Americans. Place the blame where it belongs - on the propaganda masters. Quit blaming their victims.
Tena, thanks. Tomorrow.
Good night.
Tena, thanks. Tomorrow.
Good night.
The commenters over at AmericaBlog say that this is POG's pressure point - that their standards are so pure, there are very few people who can measure up.
I agree. Make them hold everyone on their side to the same standards as they're holding people who are not them.
Pretty soon, there'd be nobody left.
They pronounced their 'moral stance.' All we have to do is make them live up to it.
The commenters over at AmericaBlog say that this is POG's pressure point - that their standards are so pure, there are very few people who can measure up.
I agree. Make them hold everyone on their side to the same standards as they're holding people who are not them.
Pretty soon, there'd be nobody left.
They pronounced their 'moral stance.' All we have to do is make them live up to it.
Bush's boyfriend from Indymedia:
post this everywhere please:
http://dc.indymedia.org/newswire...90844/
index.php
Bush's boyfriend from Indymedia:
post this everywhere please:
http://dc.indymedia.org/newswire...90844/
index.php
We are all Americans. Place the blame where it belongs - on the propaganda masters. Quit blaming their victims.
Word, Tena.
And on the cynical, "divide and conquer" political tactics they practice.
We are all Americans. Place the blame where it belongs - on the propaganda masters. Quit blaming their victims.
Word, Tena.
And on the cynical, "divide and conquer" political tactics they practice.
Well, at least Steve Earle's tribute has a new life -
Oh Condi Condi beggin’ on my knees
Open up your heart and let me in wontcha please
Got no money but everybody knows
I love you Condi and I’ll never let you go
Sweet and dandy pretty as can be
You be the flower and I’ll be the bumble bee
Oh she loves me oops she loves me not
People say you’re cold but I think you’re hot
Oh, Condi, Condi
Oh, Condi, Condi
Oh Condi, Condi I’m talkin’ to you girl
What’s it gonna hurt come on give me a whirl
Shake your body now let me see you go
One time for me Oh Condi I love you so
Skank for me Condi show me what you got
They say you’re too uptight I say you’re not
Dance around me spinnin’ like a top
Oh Condi Condi Condi don’t ever stop
Oh Condi Condi Can’t you hear me call
I’m standin’ in the street outside your garden wall
Pocketful of money belly full of wine
Condi in my heart and romance on my mind
Listen to me Condi don’t be afraid
I come here tonight to chase your blues away
I’ll never hurt you I’ll treat you right
Oh Condaleeza won’t you come out tonight
Well, at least Steve Earle's tribute has a new life -
Oh Condi Condi beggin’ on my knees
Open up your heart and let me in wontcha please
Got no money but everybody knows
I love you Condi and I’ll never let you go
Sweet and dandy pretty as can be
You be the flower and I’ll be the bumble bee
Oh she loves me oops she loves me not
People say you’re cold but I think you’re hot
Oh, Condi, Condi
Oh, Condi, Condi
Oh Condi, Condi I’m talkin’ to you girl
What’s it gonna hurt come on give me a whirl
Shake your body now let me see you go
One time for me Oh Condi I love you so
Skank for me Condi show me what you got
They say you’re too uptight I say you’re not
Dance around me spinnin’ like a top
Oh Condi Condi Condi don’t ever stop
Oh Condi Condi Can’t you hear me call
I’m standin’ in the street outside your garden wall
Pocketful of money belly full of wine
Condi in my heart and romance on my mind
Listen to me Condi don’t be afraid
I come here tonight to chase your blues away
I’ll never hurt you I’ll treat you right
Oh Condaleeza won’t you come out tonight
I'm a gay Republican.
I am adamantly against outing.
So if Ken Mehlman is outed, I'd be annoyed. But only a teeny, weeny bit annoyed.
You reach a point where enough is enough. Kind of like the point I reached this year when I decided to vote Libertarian.
My Blog - Downtown Lad (Gay Conservative)
I'm a gay Republican.
I am adamantly against outing.
So if Ken Mehlman is outed, I'd be annoyed. But only a teeny, weeny bit annoyed.
You reach a point where enough is enough. Kind of like the point I reached this year when I decided to vote Libertarian.
My Blog - Downtown Lad (Gay Conservative)
Mental health tests? That might take away Republican voting rights. Betcha the NRA won't be backing that plan anytime soon.
Mental health tests? That might take away Republican voting rights. Betcha the NRA won't be backing that plan anytime soon.
We are all Americans. Place the blame where it belongs - on the propaganda masters. Quit blaming their victims.
Sorry Tena- they made a deliberate choice. I'm not letting them off the hook.
You're either for illegal war, state sponsored torture and war crimes or you're not. Many of them chose to look the other way because they wanted their tax breaks or other goodies the rethugs were going to give them.
On the other hand, I don't really think it's a red state- blue state thing. I think it's a morally bankrupt thing.
We are all Americans. Place the blame where it belongs - on the propaganda masters. Quit blaming their victims.
Sorry Tena- they made a deliberate choice. I'm not letting them off the hook.
You're either for illegal war, state sponsored torture and war crimes or you're not. Many of them chose to look the other way because they wanted their tax breaks or other goodies the rethugs were going to give them.
On the other hand, I don't really think it's a red state- blue state thing. I think it's a morally bankrupt thing.
Could be he's decided he's had to explain his sexual orientation enough for one lifetime, and just isn't going to do it anymore.
Yeah right. In the red meat tent, I'm sure he's just refusing to say he's straight on principle.
Could be he's decided he's had to explain his sexual orientation enough for one lifetime, and just isn't going to do it anymore.
Yeah right. In the red meat tent, I'm sure he's just refusing to say he's straight on principle.
Of course, they couldn't tell us this BEFORE the fucking election! Apparently kids with same-sex parents are just as well-adjusted as kids with opposite-sex parents.
Of course, they couldn't tell us this BEFORE the fucking election! Apparently kids with same-sex parents are just as well-adjusted as kids with opposite-sex parents.
Come on, Stinky. They didn't all vote for the moron. Not by a long shot.
pie
Enough of them did to put Chimpy back in the White House. Look, it's nice to worry about things like the impact of strip mining and Wal-Mart in West Virginia, but the majority of people there don't give a damn.
You can't save people who don't want to be saved. And believe me, these people don't want to.
Come on, Stinky. They didn't all vote for the moron. Not by a long shot.
pie
Enough of them did to put Chimpy back in the White House. Look, it's nice to worry about things like the impact of strip mining and Wal-Mart in West Virginia, but the majority of people there don't give a damn.
You can't save people who don't want to be saved. And believe me, these people don't want to.
Pssst. Henry Cisneros for DNC Chair. Pass it on.
Pssst. Henry Cisneros for DNC Chair. Pass it on.
We are all Americans. Place the blame where it belongs - on the propaganda masters. Quit blaming their victims.
Tena
Propaganda victims?! This is a little over the top, don't you think?
If someone is really so dumb and "propagandized" to where they won't question authority or the media, what makes you think they're ever going to be swayed by a progressive message, let alone vote for progressive candidates?
We are all Americans. Place the blame where it belongs - on the propaganda masters. Quit blaming their victims.
Tena
Propaganda victims?! This is a little over the top, don't you think?
If someone is really so dumb and "propagandized" to where they won't question authority or the media, what makes you think they're ever going to be swayed by a progressive message, let alone vote for progressive candidates?
I don't know anyone on either side of the fence who'd do this chinless spawn of Satan, so it's all academic.
you are thinking of ed gillespie, but point taken!
I don't know anyone on either side of the fence who'd do this chinless spawn of Satan, so it's all academic.
you are thinking of ed gillespie, but point taken!
I emailed Dr. Dobson at Focus on the Family asking him what he thought of a "homosexual" in charge of RNC. It might be a good idea to blast these Fundie orgs with alot of emails.
I emailed Dr. Dobson at Focus on the Family asking him what he thought of a "homosexual" in charge of RNC. It might be a good idea to blast these Fundie orgs with alot of emails.
"the sexually ambiguous ken mehlmann"
"the sexually ambiguous ken mehlmann"
it doesn't really matter that he's gay....he's in it for the power and the opportunity to game a system---that transcends sexuality. the gop powers couldn't care less that he's gay....they only care if he can continue to use America's vast resource of stupid people to advance their agenda. and if he is gay....he couldn't possibly care less about the anti-gay stance of the gop....of course, they'll never be able to pass any of the "agenda", and even if some anti-gay legislation does go through....he's certainly set up to buy as much penis as the good lord will allow to fit into his mouth.
it doesn't really matter that he's gay....he's in it for the power and the opportunity to game a system---that transcends sexuality. the gop powers couldn't care less that he's gay....they only care if he can continue to use America's vast resource of stupid people to advance their agenda. and if he is gay....he couldn't possibly care less about the anti-gay stance of the gop....of course, they'll never be able to pass any of the "agenda", and even if some anti-gay legislation does go through....he's certainly set up to buy as much penis as the good lord will allow to fit into his mouth.
Here in Sacramento, sitting between two rivers, organic veggies growing in my back yard, corn and rice a couple miles down the road, grapes, melons, fruit orchards, tomatoes, dairies, oh, we're in a world of hurt.
Let's not let the red states use our ports. I'm up for that. They should do fine without them.
Here in Sacramento, sitting between two rivers, organic veggies growing in my back yard, corn and rice a couple miles down the road, grapes, melons, fruit orchards, tomatoes, dairies, oh, we're in a world of hurt.
Let's not let the red states use our ports. I'm up for that. They should do fine without them.
Shit, my mascara's running!
Shit, my mascara's running!
I don't know if it's fair to single Ken out. But if there is any outing, it has to wait until he gets the job. Then, maybe some time after that. Like, at least around the next election.
Maybe he's not. There are a lot of prominent Republicans who are "married to their job" and never married. Like Karl Rove. And Condi Rice. In Rove's case, it's really interesting, because he's obsessed with insinuating that the opposition is gay. Of course, being married isn't necessarily an indication of anything. Take Jim McGreevey. Or maybe even a guy that currently lives at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave., and exported his rumor baggage to an ambassadorship to Poland. Don't forget Poland, indeed.
I don't know if it's fair to single Ken out. But if there is any outing, it has to wait until he gets the job. Then, maybe some time after that. Like, at least around the next election.
Maybe he's not. There are a lot of prominent Republicans who are "married to their job" and never married. Like Karl Rove. And Condi Rice. In Rove's case, it's really interesting, because he's obsessed with insinuating that the opposition is gay. Of course, being married isn't necessarily an indication of anything. Take Jim McGreevey. Or maybe even a guy that currently lives at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave., and exported his rumor baggage to an ambassadorship to Poland. Don't forget Poland, indeed.
"In Rove's case, it's really interesting, because he's obsessed with insinuating that the opposition is gay."
Just about every raging homophobe I went to highschool with has ended up working for the degenerate developer in the next town who happens to be gay. They are known as "x's boys". Such stories you hear of parties where they wear only tool belts.
Out the fascists, out them and their close relatives and friends. Let them get burned first. It's what they've got planned for the rest of us.
"In Rove's case, it's really interesting, because he's obsessed with insinuating that the opposition is gay."
Just about every raging homophobe I went to highschool with has ended up working for the degenerate developer in the next town who happens to be gay. They are known as "x's boys". Such stories you hear of parties where they wear only tool belts.
Out the fascists, out them and their close relatives and friends. Let them get burned first. It's what they've got planned for the rest of us.
It might be a good idea to blast these Fundie orgs with alot of emails.
Nancy Irving
It is an excellent idea. And while we're at it taunting them over the Republican's dropping overturning Roe wouldn't hurt either.
Roe is gone, either overtly or covertly but it's gone. We've got to make them do it in the way that will cause them the most damage either with the general public or with the thumper tirebiters.
Related Topic: US Catholic Conference of Bishops to Clergy Abuse Victums, "Get stuffed".
It might be a good idea to blast these Fundie orgs with alot of emails.
Nancy Irving
It is an excellent idea. And while we're at it taunting them over the Republican's dropping overturning Roe wouldn't hurt either.
Roe is gone, either overtly or covertly but it's gone. We've got to make them do it in the way that will cause them the most damage either with the general public or with the thumper tirebiters.
Related Topic: US Catholic Conference of Bishops to Clergy Abuse Victums, "Get stuffed".
Mary, you're obviously unaware of Condi Rice and Gwen Ifill.
Karl Rove is a "subject for further research."
Incidentally on another board someone has come up with a perfect term for the anti-abortion crowd: "pro-coathanger"
Mary, you're obviously unaware of Condi Rice and Gwen Ifill.
Karl Rove is a "subject for further research."
Incidentally on another board someone has come up with a perfect term for the anti-abortion crowd: "pro-coathanger"
THIS JUST IN: BUSH PICKS MEHLMAN
Most interesting detail: Mehlman is a "favorite of Karl Rove". . . .
THIS JUST IN: BUSH PICKS MEHLMAN
Most interesting detail: Mehlman is a "favorite of Karl Rove". . . .
Kudos, all of you.
Kudos, all of you.
I realize that low-ball, gutter politics may be the only thing they understand. It's one of the things we dislike them for. So why stoop to it? - Sam
I agree w/Sam. If the moral argument doesn't sway you, ask yourself what on earth we gain by doing this kind of thing? It makes us look like bullies.
I realize that low-ball, gutter politics may be the only thing they understand. It's one of the things we dislike them for. So why stoop to it? - Sam
I agree w/Sam. If the moral argument doesn't sway you, ask yourself what on earth we gain by doing this kind of thing? It makes us look like bullies.
Kudos, all of you.
Thanks.
Liberals like us destroyed you before and saw to it that you died a broken, empty shell of a man.
And we'll smash your rotting corpse back into the ground before the neo-fascists manage to resurrect you.
So, yeah, I think we do deserve a pat on the back.
Kudos, all of you.
Thanks.
Liberals like us destroyed you before and saw to it that you died a broken, empty shell of a man.
And we'll smash your rotting corpse back into the ground before the neo-fascists manage to resurrect you.
So, yeah, I think we do deserve a pat on the back.
" This isn't about who Ken Mehlman is or isn't screwing, it's about whether a gay man is going to head the "values" party."
Atrios-
I know you're being ironic but still the formulation of that sentence cedes a little to much to the Republicans for my taste.
How about:
'the alleged, self-proclaimed, purported party of 'values' (which, as we all know, simply means that John Ashcroft is sticking his nose in your business)'
Less punchy- but giving no ground to the fundies!
" This isn't about who Ken Mehlman is or isn't screwing, it's about whether a gay man is going to head the "values" party."
Atrios-
I know you're being ironic but still the formulation of that sentence cedes a little to much to the Republicans for my taste.
How about:
'the alleged, self-proclaimed, purported party of 'values' (which, as we all know, simply means that John Ashcroft is sticking his nose in your business)'
Less punchy- but giving no ground to the fundies!
And THERE'S MORE WHERE MEHLMAN CAME FROM!
The pictures are Just FABULOUS!
Positively Sullyesque
And THERE'S MORE WHERE MEHLMAN CAME FROM!
The pictures are Just FABULOUS!
Positively Sullyesque
Any coincidence that this post follows one entitled "Condi"?
Any coincidence that this post follows one entitled "Condi"?
Good lord, David Ehrenstein. There are enough of them now to constitute a syndrome. I need some Maalox.
Good lord, David Ehrenstein. There are enough of them now to constitute a syndrome. I need some Maalox.
OK . . . NOW out the fvcker!!!!
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OK . . . NOW out the fvcker!!!!
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tmpl=...ush_republicans
I have no sympathy for any gay person affiliated with the GOP, or any one else who works against advancing the cause of human rights. If our right to freedom is being jeopardized, then your "private" life is fair game.
If you fuck with the bull, you get the horns...
I have no sympathy for any gay person affiliated with the GOP, or any one else who works against advancing the cause of human rights. If our right to freedom is being jeopardized, then your "private" life is fair game.
If you fuck with the bull, you get the horns...
To all good Republicans, I'm warming to pay-for-what-you-get. We know you hate the poor sponging off you for their schools and such, so I'll make you a proposition. I'll go along with abolishing welfare, food stamps and all that if you'll pay for all the foreign wars, the weapons systems, the bases, which you habitually vote for. (And profit from) Let's go all the way with privitazation. Private companies should run the armed forces. The Enron Marines, the WallMart Navy. Fine with me as long as you pay. I'll bet they can run the services just as efficiently as the private sector runs our health care system. While we're at it, Republicans tend to live in the suburbs and rural areas. It costs much more to send water, electricity and gas those extra distances, so it will be fair if your utility bills go up markedly. Roads, too. I assume you will pay for the bulk of highway construction from now on. I'm sure we can find many other things, like government disaster loans. None should go to Republicans who live in Florida. Afterall, they asked for hurricanes, living so close to the coasts. Besides, Republicans don't ask for government help. I'm liking this idea, I'm sure we can work it out.
To all good Republicans, I'm warming to pay-for-what-you-get. We know you hate the poor sponging off you for their schools and such, so I'll make you a proposition. I'll go along with abolishing welfare, food stamps and all that if you'll pay for all the foreign wars, the weapons systems, the bases, which you habitually vote for. (And profit from) Let's go all the way with privitazation. Private companies should run the armed forces. The Enron Marines, the WallMart Navy. Fine with me as long as you pay. I'll bet they can run the services just as efficiently as the private sector runs our health care system. While we're at it, Republicans tend to live in the suburbs and rural areas. It costs much more to send water, electricity and gas those extra distances, so it will be fair if your utility bills go up markedly. Roads, too. I assume you will pay for the bulk of highway construction from now on. I'm sure we can find many other things, like government disaster loans. None should go to Republicans who live in Florida. Afterall, they asked for hurricanes, living so close to the coasts. Besides, Republicans don't ask for government help. I'm liking this idea, I'm sure we can work it out.
OUT every one of these lying hypocrites. That's how to prevail against them. They are federalists when things don't go their way, then the minute they get a little power, they're for BIG federal government. They claim to hate gays but the GOP and OUR GOVERNMENT is full to the brim with gays.
OUT THE FUCKERS .... EXPOSE THE HYPOCRISY.
OUT every one of these lying hypocrites. That's how to prevail against them. They are federalists when things don't go their way, then the minute they get a little power, they're for BIG federal government. They claim to hate gays but the GOP and OUR GOVERNMENT is full to the brim with gays.
OUT THE FUCKERS .... EXPOSE THE HYPOCRISY.
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