I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
And this is why John Kerry's Health Care initiative is important.
And this is why John Kerry's Health Care initiative is important.
Thanks for staying on this story, Atrios. I'm sending the governor a lovely e-mail right now.
This story shows why Kerry's legislation is so necessary.
Thanks for staying on this story, Atrios. I'm sending the governor a lovely e-mail right now.
This story shows why Kerry's legislation is so necessary.
What's sad is that Kerry won't be able to do it.
Because he's John Kerry.
What's sad is that Kerry won't be able to do it.
Because he's John Kerry.
Well, there we have it. You've got to be dead to get medical care under these conditions. Let's see, that makes before birth and after death. In between we're on our own.
Values, a wonderful concept.
Well, there we have it. You've got to be dead to get medical care under these conditions. Let's see, that makes before birth and after death. In between we're on our own.
Values, a wonderful concept.
Remember to ask the Governor why he's not pro-life and wants children to die.
Remember to ask the Governor why he's not pro-life and wants children to die.
Our trolls seem to be changing tactics as fast as they steal our names. Won't work, kids. The afternoon knows what the morning doesn't suspect. Quote of the day in today's paper.
Our trolls seem to be changing tactics as fast as they steal our names. Won't work, kids. The afternoon knows what the morning doesn't suspect. Quote of the day in today's paper.
Let's see. A government program to keep seriously ill people alive that works so well that they have to push people that have been saved out of the door to die.
Thinking.....
Crickets........
Still Thinking.........
I'm sure something will come to my brain........but it hadn't yet. Can we please submit these conundrums in advance?
Let's see. A government program to keep seriously ill people alive that works so well that they have to push people that have been saved out of the door to die.
Thinking.....
Crickets........
Still Thinking.........
I'm sure something will come to my brain........but it hadn't yet. Can we please submit these conundrums in advance?
Health care, bitches...
Atrios, I'm curious - re: your earlier posts on Iran, do you think there's a genuine danger that the administration could go after Iran militarily? I definitely don't put the desire past 'em, but my impression has been that we're too overextended militarily to really do much about it. Then again, they've done a lot of things that have struck me as just plain crazy...
Health care, bitches...
Atrios, I'm curious - re: your earlier posts on Iran, do you think there's a genuine danger that the administration could go after Iran militarily? I definitely don't put the desire past 'em, but my impression has been that we're too overextended militarily to really do much about it. Then again, they've done a lot of things that have struck me as just plain crazy...
If Lauren was a fetus, well, then they'd give a crap about her. If she was a comatose woman in Florida with no hope of revival, Jeb Bush would step in.
BTW, let's start a rumor that Condi Rice aborted George's fetus today. (Supposedly she had uterine fibroids removed...but I think the onus is on her to prove it wasn't an abortion.)
If Lauren was a fetus, well, then they'd give a crap about her. If she was a comatose woman in Florida with no hope of revival, Jeb Bush would step in.
BTW, let's start a rumor that Condi Rice aborted George's fetus today. (Supposedly she had uterine fibroids removed...but I think the onus is on her to prove it wasn't an abortion.)
I hope all the Eschatonians are still calling the doctor's office.
Speaking of governors of Alabama, how's Wallace doing these days?
I hope all the Eschatonians are still calling the doctor's office.
Speaking of governors of Alabama, how's Wallace doing these days?
What a wasted legacy.
Ben Had
Look, either fight or stop bitching.
What a wasted legacy.
Ben Had
Look, either fight or stop bitching.
What's sad is that Kerry won't be able to do it. Because he's John Kerry.
I dunno - principled opposition seems kind of a natural role for him.
What's sad is that Kerry won't be able to do it. Because he's John Kerry.
I dunno - principled opposition seems kind of a natural role for him.
Ben Had's a troll. Ignore him.
Ben Had's a troll. Ignore him.
Sorry, completely OT and blogwhoring for someone else, but check out Holden's "caption of the day" contest at First Draft.
Man, Bar is one scary looking harridan.
And GHWB looks like he was just let out of the home on furlough.
Sorry, completely OT and blogwhoring for someone else, but check out Holden's "caption of the day" contest at First Draft.
Man, Bar is one scary looking harridan.
And GHWB looks like he was just let out of the home on furlough.
So, I have a serious question that is probably going to get some people here angry, but, why would anybody who had a choice, live in Alabama.
It really sounds like a terrible place to try to work and raise a family.
So, I have a serious question that is probably going to get some people here angry, but, why would anybody who had a choice, live in Alabama.
It really sounds like a terrible place to try to work and raise a family.
Ben Had's a troll. Ignore him.
Done.
And now, kittens.
Ben Had's a troll. Ignore him.
Done.
And now, kittens.
"Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses?"
"Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses?"
So, I have a serious question that is probably going to get some people here angry, but, why would anybody who had a choice, live in Alabama.
You call this livin'?
So, I have a serious question that is probably going to get some people here angry, but, why would anybody who had a choice, live in Alabama.
You call this livin'?
John,
I've bookmarked that page and keep clicking on different kitties.
I love the orange tabbies.
John,
I've bookmarked that page and keep clicking on different kitties.
I love the orange tabbies.
Since the Governor's email form requires copious amounts of addresses and phone numbers, I imagine it's scripted to ignore anyone not from his home turf. So here's some numbers to plug in:
Address: 11 South Union Street, Montgomery, AL 36104
Phone: (343) 242-7800
(Address and phone of the State House).
Since the Governor's email form requires copious amounts of addresses and phone numbers, I imagine it's scripted to ignore anyone not from his home turf. So here's some numbers to plug in:
Address: 11 South Union Street, Montgomery, AL 36104
Phone: (343) 242-7800
(Address and phone of the State House).
So, I have a serious question that is probably going to get some people here angry, but, why would anybody who had a choice, live in Alabama.
Cuz it's not Mississippi.
So, I have a serious question that is probably going to get some people here angry, but, why would anybody who had a choice, live in Alabama.
Cuz it's not Mississippi.
I will fight for a national standard for federal elections that has both transparency and accountability in our voting system. It's unacceptable in the United States that people still don't have full confidence in the integrity of the voting process.
"I ask you to join me in this cause."
That's a passage from a message Sen. John Kerry will be sending out to supporters later this afternoon.
-- Josh Marshall
This is a fantastic idea...
FOR NOV. 3 2000!
What happened, John?
Weren't you briefed back then?
Why did you leave the Black Caucus hanging in the wind?
Too little.
Too late.
Kerry = tool
I will fight for a national standard for federal elections that has both transparency and accountability in our voting system. It's unacceptable in the United States that people still don't have full confidence in the integrity of the voting process.
"I ask you to join me in this cause."
That's a passage from a message Sen. John Kerry will be sending out to supporters later this afternoon.
-- Josh Marshall
This is a fantastic idea...
FOR NOV. 3 2000!
What happened, John?
Weren't you briefed back then?
Why did you leave the Black Caucus hanging in the wind?
Too little.
Too late.
Kerry = tool
Isn't this the same governor who proposed a referendum to raise taxes so the poor could be cared for properly as it says in the Bible, only to see it go down to defeat?
Sounds like he's learned what "Christianity" means to his state: fuck the poor, give me more.
Isn't this the same governor who proposed a referendum to raise taxes so the poor could be cared for properly as it says in the Bible, only to see it go down to defeat?
Sounds like he's learned what "Christianity" means to his state: fuck the poor, give me more.
Oh, and let the catblogging begin!
Oh, and let the catblogging begin!
Ben Ha--
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Ben Ha--
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Watertiger
My wife and I have a silver tabby and 8-month-old orange kitten/Balrog.
Frankly, I have a soft spot for calicos (choke on it, Ashcroft) and Russian Blues.
Watertiger
My wife and I have a silver tabby and 8-month-old orange kitten/Balrog.
Frankly, I have a soft spot for calicos (choke on it, Ashcroft) and Russian Blues.
I just received the e-mail from the Kerry people that has the passages that Atrios excerpted including:
"Regardless of the outcome of this election, once all the votes are counted -- and they will be counted -- we will continue to challenge this administration. This is not a time for Democrats to retreat and accommodate extremists on critical principles -- it is a time to stand firm."
I like the sound of that.
I just received the e-mail from the Kerry people that has the passages that Atrios excerpted including:
"Regardless of the outcome of this election, once all the votes are counted -- and they will be counted -- we will continue to challenge this administration. This is not a time for Democrats to retreat and accommodate extremists on critical principles -- it is a time to stand firm."
I like the sound of that.
Why are they not suing and asking for an injunction - the law is clear. If the child is a child and qualifies for medicaid, she cannot be deprived of medically necessary procedures.
Why are they not suing and asking for an injunction - the law is clear. If the child is a child and qualifies for medicaid, she cannot be deprived of medically necessary procedures.
I'm partial to pudublogging, myself:
http://tinyurl.com/6f2ql
I'm partial to pudublogging, myself:
http://tinyurl.com/6f2ql
The time to "stand firm" was Nov. 3 2000, or any day after that before it was too late to do something of value that would have helped by Nov. 2 2004.
Kerry couldn't be bothered.
He was windsurfing.
The time to "stand firm" was Nov. 3 2000, or any day after that before it was too late to do something of value that would have helped by Nov. 2 2004.
Kerry couldn't be bothered.
He was windsurfing.
Aww, kitties. God, I'm such a sap. My real cats are getting jealous.
Aww, kitties. God, I'm such a sap. My real cats are getting jealous.
John,
My family has had orange tabbies, silver tabbies, calicos, and tuxedos.
They're ALL great!
John,
My family has had orange tabbies, silver tabbies, calicos, and tuxedos.
They're ALL great!
Here's most of the Kerry email:
Despite the words of cooperation and moderate sounding promises, this administration is planning a right wing assault on values and ideals we hold most deeply. Healthy debate and diverse opinion are being eliminated from the State Department and CIA, and the cabinet is being remade to rubber stamp policies that will undermine Social Security, balloon the deficit, avoid real reforms in health care and education, weaken homeland security, and walk away from critical allies around the world.
Regardless of the outcome of this election, once all the votes are counted -- and they will be counted -- we will continue to challenge this administration. This is not a time for Democrats to retreat and accommodate extremists on critical principles -- it is a time to stand firm.
I will fight for a national standard for federal elections that has both transparency and accountability in our voting system. It's unacceptable in the United States that people still don't have full confidence in the integrity of the voting process.
I ask you to join me in this cause.
And we must fight not only against George Bush's extreme policies -- we must also uphold our own values. This is why on the first day Congress is in session next year, I will introduce a bill to provide every child in America with health insurance. And, with your help, that legislation will be accompanied by the support of hundreds of thousands of Americans.
There are more than eight million uninsured children in our nation.
That's eight million reasons for us to stay together and fight for a new direction. It is a disgrace that in the wealthiest nation on earth, eight million children go without health insurance.
Normally, a member of the Senate will first approach other senators and ask them to co-sponsor a bill before it is introduced -- instead, I am turning to you. Imagine the power of a bill co-sponsored by hundreds of thousands of Americans being presented on the floor of the United States Senate. You can make it happen. Sign our "Every Child Protected" pledge today and forward it to your family, friends, and neighbors:
http://johnkerry.com/EveryChild
This is the beginning of a second term effort to hold the Bush administration accountable and to stand up and fight for our principles and our values. They want you to disappear; they are counting on that. I'm confident you will prove them wrong, and you will rewrite history again.
Here is what I want you to know. I understand the strength, commitment, and passion that are at the core of what we built together -- and I am determined to make our collective energy and organization a force to be reckoned with in the weeks and months ahead.
Let's roll up our sleeves and get back to work for our country.
Choke on it, brownshirts.
Here's most of the Kerry email:
Despite the words of cooperation and moderate sounding promises, this administration is planning a right wing assault on values and ideals we hold most deeply. Healthy debate and diverse opinion are being eliminated from the State Department and CIA, and the cabinet is being remade to rubber stamp policies that will undermine Social Security, balloon the deficit, avoid real reforms in health care and education, weaken homeland security, and walk away from critical allies around the world.
Regardless of the outcome of this election, once all the votes are counted -- and they will be counted -- we will continue to challenge this administration. This is not a time for Democrats to retreat and accommodate extremists on critical principles -- it is a time to stand firm.
I will fight for a national standard for federal elections that has both transparency and accountability in our voting system. It's unacceptable in the United States that people still don't have full confidence in the integrity of the voting process.
I ask you to join me in this cause.
And we must fight not only against George Bush's extreme policies -- we must also uphold our own values. This is why on the first day Congress is in session next year, I will introduce a bill to provide every child in America with health insurance. And, with your help, that legislation will be accompanied by the support of hundreds of thousands of Americans.
There are more than eight million uninsured children in our nation.
That's eight million reasons for us to stay together and fight for a new direction. It is a disgrace that in the wealthiest nation on earth, eight million children go without health insurance.
Normally, a member of the Senate will first approach other senators and ask them to co-sponsor a bill before it is introduced -- instead, I am turning to you. Imagine the power of a bill co-sponsored by hundreds of thousands of Americans being presented on the floor of the United States Senate. You can make it happen. Sign our "Every Child Protected" pledge today and forward it to your family, friends, and neighbors:
http://johnkerry.com/EveryChild
This is the beginning of a second term effort to hold the Bush administration accountable and to stand up and fight for our principles and our values. They want you to disappear; they are counting on that. I'm confident you will prove them wrong, and you will rewrite history again.
Here is what I want you to know. I understand the strength, commitment, and passion that are at the core of what we built together -- and I am determined to make our collective energy and organization a force to be reckoned with in the weeks and months ahead.
Let's roll up our sleeves and get back to work for our country.
Choke on it, brownshirts.
Ben Had Over and Over Again By The Other Inmates (and starting to like it)
Ben Had Over and Over Again By The Other Inmates (and starting to like it)
OT: Does anyone know where/if I'd be able to find out how many people are members of Moveon.org and how many participated in ACT? I was hoping to get some numbers before the whole "holiday" thing--they say no politics but you know that's not true.
Thank you kindly!
OT: Does anyone know where/if I'd be able to find out how many people are members of Moveon.org and how many participated in ACT? I was hoping to get some numbers before the whole "holiday" thing--they say no politics but you know that's not true.
Thank you kindly!
Kerry will be as successful at providing health care as he's been at reforming the vote over the last 4 years.
Oh, wait...
He couldn't have cared less.
He's a paid glass jaw.
He drops to the mat on cue, and then claims he'll REALLY start fighting now!
How many times were we told during the campaign: "Just wait! Kerry's really going to start fighting after the..."
Convention, Debates, etc. etc.
He never really fought.
He's not going to start now.
He's going to drool the same bullshit to fool the same gullible dolts.
The way you people act towards bread crumbs indicates just how hungry Kerry's left you.
You get what you deserve.
Kerry will be as successful at providing health care as he's been at reforming the vote over the last 4 years.
Oh, wait...
He couldn't have cared less.
He's a paid glass jaw.
He drops to the mat on cue, and then claims he'll REALLY start fighting now!
How many times were we told during the campaign: "Just wait! Kerry's really going to start fighting after the..."
Convention, Debates, etc. etc.
He never really fought.
He's not going to start now.
He's going to drool the same bullshit to fool the same gullible dolts.
The way you people act towards bread crumbs indicates just how hungry Kerry's left you.
You get what you deserve.
So, I have a serious question that is probably going to get some people here angry, but, why would anybody who had a choice, live in Alabama.
Well - and not a knock to watertiger - but places like Alabama and Mississippi are quite nice to come from. I come from Mississippi, and despite the rather insular and admittedly close-minded atmosphere I grew up in, I wouldn't change it for the world. My mother still lives in Mississippi. In fact, she lives less than 200 yards from where she was born. The old house place is still there, though the house was long gone by the time I came on the scene. The simple life isn't such a bad way to live, frankly. Hell, if my ship ever comes in and I become a world-famous author, I'm moving back to the old home place (provided, of course, I can maintain a decent supply of herbal remedies). Your surroundings are only what you make of them. Bight lights and a big city won't fill up an empty soul, nor will tranquil surroundings and a slow pace calm an unsettled spirit.
In other words, some people like it and some people don't. Frankly, I personally don't understand why anyone would live in L.A. Them earthquakes unnerve the shit out of me. But hey...different strokes, ya know?
He was windsurfing.
Ben Had | Email | Homepage | 11.19.04 - 3:29 pm | #
Just curious...what are you doing?
So, I have a serious question that is probably going to get some people here angry, but, why would anybody who had a choice, live in Alabama.
Well - and not a knock to watertiger - but places like Alabama and Mississippi are quite nice to come from. I come from Mississippi, and despite the rather insular and admittedly close-minded atmosphere I grew up in, I wouldn't change it for the world. My mother still lives in Mississippi. In fact, she lives less than 200 yards from where she was born. The old house place is still there, though the house was long gone by the time I came on the scene. The simple life isn't such a bad way to live, frankly. Hell, if my ship ever comes in and I become a world-famous author, I'm moving back to the old home place (provided, of course, I can maintain a decent supply of herbal remedies). Your surroundings are only what you make of them. Bight lights and a big city won't fill up an empty soul, nor will tranquil surroundings and a slow pace calm an unsettled spirit.
In other words, some people like it and some people don't. Frankly, I personally don't understand why anyone would live in L.A. Them earthquakes unnerve the shit out of me. But hey...different strokes, ya know?
He was windsurfing.
Ben Had | Email | Homepage | 11.19.04 - 3:29 pm | #
Just curious...what are you doing?
I had ben gay at a party once. It was fun.
I had ben gay at a party once. It was fun.
I'm a tool who can't windsurf
I'm a tool who can't windsurf
I'm a tool who can't windsurf
I'm a tool who can't windsurf
I'm a tool who can't windsurf
I'm a tool who can't windsurf
I'm a tool who can't windsurf
I'm a tool who can't windsurf
I'm a tool who can't windsurf
I'm a tool who can't windsurf
I'm a tool who can't windsurf
I'm a tool who can't windsurf
I'm a tool who can't windsurf
I'm a tool who can't windsurf
I'm a tool who can't windsurf
I'm a tool who can't windsurf
I'm a tool who can't windsurf
I'm a tool who can't windsurf
I'm a tool who can't windsurf
I'm a tool who can't windsurf
I'm a tool who can't windsurf
I'm a tool who can't windsurf
I'm a tool who can't windsurf
I'm a tool who can't windsurf
I can't recall where I read this, but it's worth repeating. These people are not pro-life; they are pro-birth.
I can't recall where I read this, but it's worth repeating. These people are not pro-life; they are pro-birth.
Shrter Be Had - Give Up.
Shrter Be Had - Give Up.
you'll notice the trolls come out in force whenever anyone around here gets any kind of positive energy or communication going?
then, when confronted with facts, they jump to a new complaint, then, when all else fails, they steal names.
it's too damn predictable. we need to turn last night's troll-spoofing into a FAQ for newcomer trolls so they can study a little and get up to speed before they jump in the water here.
-L.
you'll notice the trolls come out in force whenever anyone around here gets any kind of positive energy or communication going?
then, when confronted with facts, they jump to a new complaint, then, when all else fails, they steal names.
it's too damn predictable. we need to turn last night's troll-spoofing into a FAQ for newcomer trolls so they can study a little and get up to speed before they jump in the water here.
-L.
Why don't you do a fundraiser???
You claim to raise thousand$ just by posting a request.
If this is so impacting an issue...do something.
Why don't you do a fundraiser???
You claim to raise thousand$ just by posting a request.
If this is so impacting an issue...do something.
Backslider,
I joke about Mississippi, but in truth, one of my favorite people hails from the state, so I kind of have a soft spot in my heart for it. He jokes about his birthplace all the time (actually, he was born in Anniston and moved to Mississippi). And yes, his family is still there.
No offense intended.
Backslider,
I joke about Mississippi, but in truth, one of my favorite people hails from the state, so I kind of have a soft spot in my heart for it. He jokes about his birthplace all the time (actually, he was born in Anniston and moved to Mississippi). And yes, his family is still there.
No offense intended.
Ben Had - Didn't your mama tell you that if you can't say something positive, you shouldn't say anything at all? You seem consumed by bitterness.
Ben Had - Didn't your mama tell you that if you can't say something positive, you shouldn't say anything at all? You seem consumed by bitterness.
Just curious...what are you doing?
Backslider |
Just self-fellating.
Just curious...what are you doing?
Backslider |
Just self-fellating.
Just curious...what are you doing?
Backslider
Warning people not to get their hopes up about anything Kerry says.
Some will heed.
Some would rather bleed...for nothing.
You want to help Lauren?
Raise the goddamn money!
Don't use her in a pointless volley over Kerry's sad ass.
Really help her and quit waiting for Godot!
Just curious...what are you doing?
Backslider
Warning people not to get their hopes up about anything Kerry says.
Some will heed.
Some would rather bleed...for nothing.
You want to help Lauren?
Raise the goddamn money!
Don't use her in a pointless volley over Kerry's sad ass.
Really help her and quit waiting for Godot!
Geez, Ben Had, you're a misery bitch, aren't you? Kerry offers a decent idea and you shit on him because he didn't singlehandedly save the world through legislation in the face of the biggest bunch of liars, cheaters and scum the world has ever seen.
Hey, you run for president and get shit on everyday by a compliant media. You stand up and try to offer sound solutions to a part of the country who hates your fucking guts just because you are a Democrat.
No, we aren't going to get paradise through any politician, but now we have an idea to rally around, a new movement to either care for kids or expose the GOP for the heartless pricks they are. We had our robbery on Nov. 2. We can't get it back. Now, this is the resistance. You either join or have a Big Gulp of Shut The Fuck Up. My treat.
Geez, Ben Had, you're a misery bitch, aren't you? Kerry offers a decent idea and you shit on him because he didn't singlehandedly save the world through legislation in the face of the biggest bunch of liars, cheaters and scum the world has ever seen.
Hey, you run for president and get shit on everyday by a compliant media. You stand up and try to offer sound solutions to a part of the country who hates your fucking guts just because you are a Democrat.
No, we aren't going to get paradise through any politician, but now we have an idea to rally around, a new movement to either care for kids or expose the GOP for the heartless pricks they are. We had our robbery on Nov. 2. We can't get it back. Now, this is the resistance. You either join or have a Big Gulp of Shut The Fuck Up. My treat.
Deanna -
I am bitterness defined, through and through. That's why I troll here, Deanna, my bitterness.
Deanna -
I am bitterness defined, through and through. That's why I troll here, Deanna, my bitterness.
Interesting footnote. In the Alabama civil courts, they have taken the high-minded position that every life has value. What it really means is that no evidence, and I mean no evidence, can be admitted about the person who was killed, the life that was taken.
However, this principle only extends to cases involving money. In criminal cases, the testimony about the life of that deceased is admissable.
Does that give you an inkling of Alabama's regard for life?
Interesting footnote. In the Alabama civil courts, they have taken the high-minded position that every life has value. What it really means is that no evidence, and I mean no evidence, can be admitted about the person who was killed, the life that was taken.
However, this principle only extends to cases involving money. In criminal cases, the testimony about the life of that deceased is admissable.
Does that give you an inkling of Alabama's regard for life?
And this isn't rationing health care, how?
I don't get it.
And this isn't rationing health care, how?
I don't get it.
I am on hold right now. They put me right through to someone and seemed shocked by this story.
I suggest everybody call as soon as possible.
I am on hold right now. They put me right through to someone and seemed shocked by this story.
I suggest everybody call as soon as possible.
attention trolls, ENLIST!
attention trolls, ENLIST!
And this isn't rationing health care, how?
I don't get it.
because..... um.. John Kerry!! Nov 3!
Windsurf!! Kerry!
aaaarrgghhh my brains!!! IT BURNS!!!
And this isn't rationing health care, how?
I don't get it.
because..... um.. John Kerry!! Nov 3!
Windsurf!! Kerry!
aaaarrgghhh my brains!!! IT BURNS!!!
http://www.johnkerry.com/petitio.../
everychild.php
Go sign the petition.
http://www.johnkerry.com/petitio.../
everychild.php
Go sign the petition.
anybody got a response from the Governor's office?
anybody got a response from the Governor's office?
That's the trouble with home schooling. By early afternoon mama is all hooched up and jr. just plays on the internets.
That's the trouble with home schooling. By early afternoon mama is all hooched up and jr. just plays on the internets.
We shall tolerate only one misery poster on these threads...where's Incognito anyway?
We shall tolerate only one misery poster on these threads...where's Incognito anyway?
Go sign the petition.
Done.
Hey, Ben Had, you do the same or STFU.
Go sign the petition.
Done.
Hey, Ben Had, you do the same or STFU.
And this isn't rationing health care, how?
I don't get it.
And this isn't rationing health care, how?
I don't get it.
Thanks, Vicki S., for the link!!!
And if you can't get through to the gov's office, send an email. No guarantee that they'll read it, but hey, ya never know.
Thanks, Vicki S., for the link!!!
And if you can't get through to the gov's office, send an email. No guarantee that they'll read it, but hey, ya never know.
The "pro life" party! Hahahahaha! "Pro-life!" HAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA OMFG that is so freakin funny. What kind of brain dead retard do you have to be to actually BELIEVE that line, huh? "Pro-life! But if there is a justification for killing someone man you bet your ASS we're gonna latch onto it like stink on shit!"
PRO-LIFE! HAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH.
The "pro life" party! Hahahahaha! "Pro-life!" HAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA OMFG that is so freakin funny. What kind of brain dead retard do you have to be to actually BELIEVE that line, huh? "Pro-life! But if there is a justification for killing someone man you bet your ASS we're gonna latch onto it like stink on shit!"
PRO-LIFE! HAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH.
"Speaking of governors of Alabama, how's Wallace doing these days?"
He's still dead the last I heard.
"Speaking of governors of Alabama, how's Wallace doing these days?"
He's still dead the last I heard.
Quitters never win and winners never quit.
I'd rather lose again and say at least I tried than lose again and not even have tried.
Go John!
Quitters never win and winners never quit.
I'd rather lose again and say at least I tried than lose again and not even have tried.
Go John!
watertiger,
No offense taken, I assure you. Mainly because I've ceased giving a shit what people think about my home state because I know that while my geographic locality, place of birth and upbringing are all integral parts of my being, they're not the total. Just pieces of the puzzle. In other words, me being a country boy is as about as important as me being a redhead. Sure, it's there, but it doesn't define me completely.
I'm with Tena about the whole "blue states versus red states" thing, in that I think it's total bullshit. And, for what it's worth, it's nothing new. Take it from a stump jumper from way back, we country folk have been sneering at you city people for a long damn time, but it's never stopped us from whining when you do it to us. If anything else, this whole argument is just another way The Powers That Be keep us seperated and fighting amongst ourselves. For when we scuffle with each other, it's preventing us from taking those bastards down.
Ben Had,
Point taken, but may I say "physician, heal thyself". You've made your point. I don't think there's a soul who voted for him who didn't feel incredibly let down when Kerry conceeded before all the votes were counted. As far as I'm concerned, personally, he's in the same boat as the rest of Washington: they got a whole long row to hoe before they prove to me they're worth the oil it'd take to boil them in hell.
Nevertheless, this incessent snarking on your part is counterproductive. You're not trying to get people motivated to change; you're pissing in their corn flakes. Course, that's just an assumption on my part, but it seems to me that if you really want to do what you say you want to do, you'd be trying to come up with solutions rather than just saying "Kerry screwed us, you dumb fuckers, so fuck him and fuck you if you think he's worth shooting".
Just a suggestion that you're free to ignore, because, hell...I'm just another random yay-hoo with a keyboard. As it is, though, you sound more like a 10-year-old who's inordinately pleased with his little brother finding out there's no Santa Claus.
watertiger,
No offense taken, I assure you. Mainly because I've ceased giving a shit what people think about my home state because I know that while my geographic locality, place of birth and upbringing are all integral parts of my being, they're not the total. Just pieces of the puzzle. In other words, me being a country boy is as about as important as me being a redhead. Sure, it's there, but it doesn't define me completely.
I'm with Tena about the whole "blue states versus red states" thing, in that I think it's total bullshit. And, for what it's worth, it's nothing new. Take it from a stump jumper from way back, we country folk have been sneering at you city people for a long damn time, but it's never stopped us from whining when you do it to us. If anything else, this whole argument is just another way The Powers That Be keep us seperated and fighting amongst ourselves. For when we scuffle with each other, it's preventing us from taking those bastards down.
Ben Had,
Point taken, but may I say "physician, heal thyself". You've made your point. I don't think there's a soul who voted for him who didn't feel incredibly let down when Kerry conceeded before all the votes were counted. As far as I'm concerned, personally, he's in the same boat as the rest of Washington: they got a whole long row to hoe before they prove to me they're worth the oil it'd take to boil them in hell.
Nevertheless, this incessent snarking on your part is counterproductive. You're not trying to get people motivated to change; you're pissing in their corn flakes. Course, that's just an assumption on my part, but it seems to me that if you really want to do what you say you want to do, you'd be trying to come up with solutions rather than just saying "Kerry screwed us, you dumb fuckers, so fuck him and fuck you if you think he's worth shooting".
Just a suggestion that you're free to ignore, because, hell...I'm just another random yay-hoo with a keyboard. As it is, though, you sound more like a 10-year-old who's inordinately pleased with his little brother finding out there's no Santa Claus.
You want to help Lauren?
Raise the goddamn money!
Just a reminder to everyone here. Ben Had is a libertarian troll posing as a liberal. Try not to address him directly and he may go away.
You want to help Lauren?
Raise the goddamn money!
Just a reminder to everyone here. Ben Had is a libertarian troll posing as a liberal. Try not to address him directly and he may go away.
When you go to the Kerry website and put in your information, then you click a button that says "Co-Sponsor the Legislation." That's very cool.
Healthy kids is an American value.
When you go to the Kerry website and put in your information, then you click a button that says "Co-Sponsor the Legislation." That's very cool.
Healthy kids is an American value.
i guess i needed to be a little more over the edge in my last few posts to ensure that everyone knew this nick had been nicked 
i guess i needed to be a little more over the edge in my last few posts to ensure that everyone knew this nick had been nicked
i think little bennie had has run away
i think little bennie had has run away
and i wish we didn't need to keep harping at "the south" either! there are a lot of great southern things--we northerners can't make biscuits to save our lives, for one thing!
we are being brainwashed by Rove & MSM with that fake-ass electoral RED v. BLUE states map, which is utterly misleading when it comes to how many people voted which way, in every small town & city across the whole of the US. most places were pretty evenly divided. and EVERY state has BOTH ends of the spectrum.
in honor of Tena, i am re-naming my favorite electoral spectrum by counties map,
The Tena's Sea of Purple Map:
http://tinyurl.com/54f59
it should be color-printed and pasted on every damn available wall.
-L.
(along with Bush's ever shrinking Man Date...2.80% and falling.)
and i wish we didn't need to keep harping at "the south" either! there are a lot of great southern things--we northerners can't make biscuits to save our lives, for one thing!
we are being brainwashed by Rove & MSM with that fake-ass electoral RED v. BLUE states map, which is utterly misleading when it comes to how many people voted which way, in every small town & city across the whole of the US. most places were pretty evenly divided. and EVERY state has BOTH ends of the spectrum.
in honor of Tena, i am re-naming my favorite electoral spectrum by counties map,
The Tena's Sea of Purple Map:
http://tinyurl.com/54f59
it should be color-printed and pasted on every damn available wall.
-L.
(along with Bush's ever shrinking Man Date...2.80% and falling.)
"This is California, and we should have a really fantastic place where we can entertain world leaders," Mr. Schwarzenegger said in a recent interview, describing imaginary grounds with a fountain, a circular driveway and hedgerows."
Barbed wire fences and guard towers.
"It should have a room for dining and dancing and a place for after dinner,'' he said. "We could invite world leaders like the chancellor of Germany or the prime minister of South Africa."
Heck, where ARE we going to entertain the rightwing death squads? Oh, that's right, in our streets.
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"This is California, and we should have a really fantastic place where we can entertain world leaders," Mr. Schwarzenegger said in a recent interview, describing imaginary grounds with a fountain, a circular driveway and hedgerows."
Barbed wire fences and guard towers.
"It should have a room for dining and dancing and a place for after dinner,'' he said. "We could invite world leaders like the chancellor of Germany or the prime minister of South Africa."
Heck, where ARE we going to entertain the rightwing death squads? Oh, that's right, in our streets.
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"pleased with his little brother finding out there's no Santa Claus."
Backslider
What the fuck are you talking about, no Santa Claus, are you telling me there's no Santa Claus, cause I think that's what I read...
Oh shit, thanks a lot backslider for ruining it for the rest of us.
Jeez.
"pleased with his little brother finding out there's no Santa Claus."
Backslider
What the fuck are you talking about, no Santa Claus, are you telling me there's no Santa Claus, cause I think that's what I read...
Oh shit, thanks a lot backslider for ruining it for the rest of us.
Jeez.
more hypocrisy from the right-to-life crowd. Exhibit #1001 in how they don't give a shit about you once you're born.
more hypocrisy from the right-to-life crowd. Exhibit #1001 in how they don't give a shit about you once you're born.
Has no one in Alabama read Catch-22? Yossarian can't get treated for jaundice because he doesn't quite have it, even though the treatment would indeed cure the not-quite-jaundice he does have. So instead they give him fruit juice, which doesn't do anything, though he does make lots of people happy by giving it away.
Has no one in Alabama read Catch-22? Yossarian can't get treated for jaundice because he doesn't quite have it, even though the treatment would indeed cure the not-quite-jaundice he does have. So instead they give him fruit juice, which doesn't do anything, though he does make lots of people happy by giving it away.
OT, but folks at Berkeley have a very interesting look at Florida voting...
http://ucdata.berkeley.edu/new_w...2004/
index.html
Haven't had a chance to read the paper yet (just the findings), but it looks mighty interesting.
OT, but folks at Berkeley have a very interesting look at Florida voting...
http://ucdata.berkeley.edu/new_w...2004/
index.html
Haven't had a chance to read the paper yet (just the findings), but it looks mighty interesting.
Well, hello "Backslider." Good to see this site's Son of the Magnolia State up and about.
I just had the dark "pleasure" of sending gag! MY Governor the following e-mail:
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Dear Governor Riley:
Why is the matter of Lauren Rainey's life or death less important to you that sticking up for a beaurocratic morass?
Here's what you said: " . . . I think to a large extent what you've done is frighten a child, sent the wrong message to the community that the state is not being as responsive as it can be because there are a variety of different programs and I think if we all had taken the opportunity to sit down and explore all the other options we wouldn't even be having this conversation."
When asked if you could name ANY ONE out of that "variety of different programs," this was your response: "No, but I can find out and let you know."
First of all, a Responsible Leader would have already been "on top of this" and, at the least, have been prepared to offer alternative measures for Lauren *before* lashing out at those trying to keep her from dying.
Second, a Responsible Leader would care more about saving the life of a constituent than in defending an unresponsive beaurocratic regime.
And, then, there's you.
And, of course, you will blame someone else, here in this age of Republican-sponsored "Age of Personal Responsibility." I suppose that only applies to the regular "responsible people," not to the "big wigs."
For shame.
Well, hello "Backslider." Good to see this site's Son of the Magnolia State up and about.
I just had the dark "pleasure" of sending gag! MY Governor the following e-mail:
____________________________________
Dear Governor Riley:
Why is the matter of Lauren Rainey's life or death less important to you that sticking up for a beaurocratic morass?
Here's what you said: " . . . I think to a large extent what you've done is frighten a child, sent the wrong message to the community that the state is not being as responsive as it can be because there are a variety of different programs and I think if we all had taken the opportunity to sit down and explore all the other options we wouldn't even be having this conversation."
When asked if you could name ANY ONE out of that "variety of different programs," this was your response: "No, but I can find out and let you know."
First of all, a Responsible Leader would have already been "on top of this" and, at the least, have been prepared to offer alternative measures for Lauren *before* lashing out at those trying to keep her from dying.
Second, a Responsible Leader would care more about saving the life of a constituent than in defending an unresponsive beaurocratic regime.
And, then, there's you.
And, of course, you will blame someone else, here in this age of Republican-sponsored "Age of Personal Responsibility." I suppose that only applies to the regular "responsible people," not to the "big wigs."
For shame.
Ok, some lady responded and tried to feed me some B.S. She obviously didn't know a thing about the story and seemed totally shocked by the whole thing.
Same with the staffer who answered the phone. The response time was quick.
I suggest you all go call right now.
Save a little girl's life.
Ok, some lady responded and tried to feed me some B.S. She obviously didn't know a thing about the story and seemed totally shocked by the whole thing.
Same with the staffer who answered the phone. The response time was quick.
I suggest you all go call right now.
Save a little girl's life.
krsaz, Incognito works weekends ~ long hours ~ so he has a lot of free time during the week. At least that was the last I knew about his schedule...
And by the way, have a great weekend! I'm out of here early (not quite yet, though) ~ watching my twin nephews who just turned 6! I can't wait ~ they are so funny! We're going out for pizza, and then we'll play "Old Maid."
krsaz, Incognito works weekends ~ long hours ~ so he has a lot of free time during the week. At least that was the last I knew about his schedule...
And by the way, have a great weekend! I'm out of here early (not quite yet, though) ~ watching my twin nephews who just turned 6! I can't wait ~ they are so funny! We're going out for pizza, and then we'll play "Old Maid."
"it should be color-printed and pasted on every damn available wall."-L.
Using vote fraud elections to measure such things as purpleness is absurd. Those numbers aren't correct.
We won by landslide.
Hard to wrap your mind around Diebold vote-flipping?
Try this. Type some words into this comment window, then select them, and hit delete. Bye bye, democratic votes, bye bye.
Guffaws from the back rooms.
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"it should be color-printed and pasted on every damn available wall."-L.
Using vote fraud elections to measure such things as purpleness is absurd. Those numbers aren't correct.
We won by landslide.
Hard to wrap your mind around Diebold vote-flipping?
Try this. Type some words into this comment window, then select them, and hit delete. Bye bye, democratic votes, bye bye.
Guffaws from the back rooms.
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Librarian,
we northerners can't make biscuits to save our lives, for one thing!
Ain't that the sad, sorry truth. You also serve cornbread that's sweet and tea that ain't. It's wrong, man, just wrong.
krsaz,
Now, did I say there's no Santa Claus? If you believe, anything's possible...
Librarian,
we northerners can't make biscuits to save our lives, for one thing!
Ain't that the sad, sorry truth. You also serve cornbread that's sweet and tea that ain't. It's wrong, man, just wrong.
krsaz,
Now, did I say there's no Santa Claus? If you believe, anything's possible...
krsaz, Incognito works weekends ~ long hours ~ so he has a lot of free time during the week. At least that was the last I knew about his schedule...
I remember him saying this.
I wish we could stop hating on Incog, though. Since the election, he has really calmed down and more or less dropped the hysteria. I think he makes a lot of good points.
Well, unless some asshole troll gay-baits him. But I think that's fairly understandable...
krsaz, Incognito works weekends ~ long hours ~ so he has a lot of free time during the week. At least that was the last I knew about his schedule...
I remember him saying this.
I wish we could stop hating on Incog, though. Since the election, he has really calmed down and more or less dropped the hysteria. I think he makes a lot of good points.
Well, unless some asshole troll gay-baits him. But I think that's fairly understandable...
Backslider,
I think the country is more purple than red and blue -- lawdy knows. We NYers are a little sensitive because of 9/11 and the feeling that we're still Target #1.
There are plenty of good, honest people in every state, and yes,red v. blue is divisive.
I think people need a little time to digest that purple map.
Backslider,
I think the country is more purple than red and blue -- lawdy knows. We NYers are a little sensitive because of 9/11 and the feeling that we're still Target #1.
There are plenty of good, honest people in every state, and yes,red v. blue is divisive.
I think people need a little time to digest that purple map.
A little harsh on Riley it seems to me. I think he wants to find asolution. Seems more misinformed than unwilling to help.
A little harsh on Riley it seems to me. I think he wants to find asolution. Seems more misinformed than unwilling to help.
Hey, gang, if you REALLY want to get noticed, I recommend you send the governor a Fed-Ex (or some other kind of overnight delivery) letter. The general rule of political correspondence is their attention flows to the more expensive communication methods. It goes something like this: in person > Fed Ex > personal letter > phone call/fax/post card/astroturf > e-mail. Yes, they notice when we clog the phones or mail boxes, but if we clog their *real* inbox...
Anyway, more gas on the fire I say. If you're really pissed off and can spare the $10, Fed Ex is the way to go.
Hey, gang, if you REALLY want to get noticed, I recommend you send the governor a Fed-Ex (or some other kind of overnight delivery) letter. The general rule of political correspondence is their attention flows to the more expensive communication methods. It goes something like this: in person > Fed Ex > personal letter > phone call/fax/post card/astroturf > e-mail. Yes, they notice when we clog the phones or mail boxes, but if we clog their *real* inbox...
Anyway, more gas on the fire I say. If you're really pissed off and can spare the $10, Fed Ex is the way to go.
If you believe, anything's possible...
Oh, you mean like Peter Pan right, ok, cool. Hey I believe that Kerry actually won the election, any possibility that will work out?
If you believe, anything's possible...
Oh, you mean like Peter Pan right, ok, cool. Hey I believe that Kerry actually won the election, any possibility that will work out?
and like i have any room to say anything anout someone else's state, living in PA..."home" to the Senator Santorignoramus!
-L.
and like i have any room to say anything anout someone else's state, living in PA..."home" to the Senator Santorignoramus!
-L.
Yes, I know, I'm a "professional" who can't spell "bureaucrat." But at least I can pronounce it.
.
Yes, I know, I'm a "professional" who can't spell "bureaucrat." But at least I can pronounce it.
.
"Healthy kids is an American value.
Hecate"
Yeah, bully for the kids, but COUNTING OUR VOTES would make a bit more difference to the lives of tens of thousands of kids being blown out of their zories as we chat.
Kerry's appeasement is understandable, but his emphasis on passing feel-good legislation is putting cowpies on our heads until the NEXT time they want to collect recount donations THEY DON'T PLAN ON USING.
COUNT OUR VOTES, John Kerry.
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"Healthy kids is an American value.
Hecate"
Yeah, bully for the kids, but COUNTING OUR VOTES would make a bit more difference to the lives of tens of thousands of kids being blown out of their zories as we chat.
Kerry's appeasement is understandable, but his emphasis on passing feel-good legislation is putting cowpies on our heads until the NEXT time they want to collect recount donations THEY DON'T PLAN ON USING.
COUNT OUR VOTES, John Kerry.
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we northerners can't make biscuits to save our lives, for one thing!
Ain't that the sad, sorry truth. You also serve cornbread that's sweet and tea that ain't. It's wrong, man, just wrong.
My friends from the South love my pecan pie, though...and Mr. Mississippian taught me how to put coffee in my pancake syrup and mop it up with the biscuits. Yum!
we northerners can't make biscuits to save our lives, for one thing!
Ain't that the sad, sorry truth. You also serve cornbread that's sweet and tea that ain't. It's wrong, man, just wrong.
My friends from the South love my pecan pie, though...and Mr. Mississippian taught me how to put coffee in my pancake syrup and mop it up with the biscuits. Yum!
hlm,
Frankly, I think 'Bama's governor had what little spine he had snapped in two over the whole lottery thing and the tax increase-to-fund-schools thing. My brother was going to school at UNA when he was running, and says he was basically elected on the whole lottery issue. Course, the day after the election, Little Brother says the "Say No To Gambling" signs popped up like wildflowers after a rain. And, of course, folks in the Heart of Dixie still flock to Tennessee and Georgia to buy scratch tickets. But, hey...least y'all ain't got Haley Barbour...or for that matter, Georgia's dipstick Sonny Perdue.
And while it's no real issue, I am curious: why the quote marks around my handle?
hlm,
Frankly, I think 'Bama's governor had what little spine he had snapped in two over the whole lottery thing and the tax increase-to-fund-schools thing. My brother was going to school at UNA when he was running, and says he was basically elected on the whole lottery issue. Course, the day after the election, Little Brother says the "Say No To Gambling" signs popped up like wildflowers after a rain. And, of course, folks in the Heart of Dixie still flock to Tennessee and Georgia to buy scratch tickets. But, hey...least y'all ain't got Haley Barbour...or for that matter, Georgia's dipstick Sonny Perdue.
And while it's no real issue, I am curious: why the quote marks around my handle?
Hows about talking about "red" + "blue" people rather than states? Frame it as a mentality rather than as a blanket statement about certain states. Plenty of schmucks in Massachusetts voted for Bush too.
Hows about talking about "red" + "blue" people rather than states? Frame it as a mentality rather than as a blanket statement about certain states. Plenty of schmucks in Massachusetts voted for Bush too.
Yes, I know, I'm a "professional" who can't spell "bureaucrat." But at least I can pronounce it.
.
Yes, I know, I'm a "professional" who can't spell "bureaucrat." But at least I can pronounce it.
.
int argc ~
I'm with ya on the Incognito thing. I like Incognito.
int argc ~
I'm with ya on the Incognito thing. I like Incognito.
"Hey I believe that Kerry actually won the election, any possibility that will work out?
krsaz"
Canvass of Ohio would give the election to John Kerry, just like, er, WE did.
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"Hey I believe that Kerry actually won the election, any possibility that will work out?
krsaz"
Canvass of Ohio would give the election to John Kerry, just like, er, WE did.
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If Lauren were to become sicker or die, she would become the poster child of what is wrong with America -the land of equal opportunity, freedom and compassion.
If Lauren were to become sicker or die, she would become the poster child of what is wrong with America -the land of equal opportunity, freedom and compassion.
35% of Massachusetts is "red".
35% of Massachusetts is "red".
With regard to this story, and to use Ann Coulter's words against her, the Radical GOP are "terrified of letting us point out what racists they are and how they have a big problem with black women" (and girls).
With regard to this story, and to use Ann Coulter's words against her, the Radical GOP are "terrified of letting us point out what racists they are and how they have a big problem with black women" (and girls).
Paul = dopey
Paul = dopey
"I'm with ya on the Incognito thing. I like Incognito.
Vicki Stein"
Incognito is an ADMITTED racist.
He has not recanted his hatred of Arabs or Asians.
I don't get cosy with racists, myself. I fight them in the streets.
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"I'm with ya on the Incognito thing. I like Incognito.
Vicki Stein"
Incognito is an ADMITTED racist.
He has not recanted his hatred of Arabs or Asians.
I don't get cosy with racists, myself. I fight them in the streets.
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Perhaps Lauren should appeal to the komassion of GWB. Perhaps the top 1% of wealthy Americans would be kompassionate and pay for her care out of the tax refunds they just got.
Perhaps Lauren should appeal to the komassion of GWB. Perhaps the top 1% of wealthy Americans would be kompassionate and pay for her care out of the tax refunds they just got.
I think people need a little time to digest that purple map.
watertiger | Email | Homepage | 11.19.04 - 4:00 pm | #
Indeed. We ain't so different, but it behooves them in power - and their mass media lapdogs - to keep the meme circulating. "Us versus them" is always a powerful distraction.
And I'm somewhat ashamed to admit it...I never cared much for pecan pie. I'll eat the hell out of some catfish, though.
Hey I believe that Kerry actually won the election, any possibility that will work out?
krsaz | Email | Homepage | 11.19.04 - 4:02 pm | #
Belief is merely the fuel we use to change society, my friend. We can't change the past - though the GOPranos certainly do try - but we can change the future with our actions in the present. It won't change overnight, of course, and it won't set right what the mendaciousness and venality of others has made wrong, but it can be done.
But belief only goes so far without action, of course. We gotta have thought, reasoning and action, in that order. Change what you can, accept what you must, compromise when neccessary, but never, ever give up the fight.
That's the only way you can really lose.
I think people need a little time to digest that purple map.
watertiger | Email | Homepage | 11.19.04 - 4:00 pm | #
Indeed. We ain't so different, but it behooves them in power - and their mass media lapdogs - to keep the meme circulating. "Us versus them" is always a powerful distraction.
And I'm somewhat ashamed to admit it...I never cared much for pecan pie. I'll eat the hell out of some catfish, though.
Hey I believe that Kerry actually won the election, any possibility that will work out?
krsaz | Email | Homepage | 11.19.04 - 4:02 pm | #
Belief is merely the fuel we use to change society, my friend. We can't change the past - though the GOPranos certainly do try - but we can change the future with our actions in the present. It won't change overnight, of course, and it won't set right what the mendaciousness and venality of others has made wrong, but it can be done.
But belief only goes so far without action, of course. We gotta have thought, reasoning and action, in that order. Change what you can, accept what you must, compromise when neccessary, but never, ever give up the fight.
That's the only way you can really lose.
What a bunch of asshats.
This is what health care will look like for the poor, terminally ill, and disabled under the christo-fascist reicht.
Compassionate conservatism my pink ass.
What a bunch of asshats.
This is what health care will look like for the poor, terminally ill, and disabled under the christo-fascist reicht.
Compassionate conservatism my pink ass.
ok. enough talk. who else has called, faxed or e-mailed? do it now. before 5 p.m. EST
ok. enough talk. who else has called, faxed or e-mailed? do it now. before 5 p.m. EST
Paul,
Incognito and I are allies in that we oppose GWB. Who, I might add, has caused the deaths of 100,000 Iraqi citizens. Compared to that, I'm not as concerned about racist remarks Incog made in the midst of a heated argument with you (where, I might add, you acted like a complete ass as well). But thanks for your efforts as a member of the LWCFS (Left-Wing Circular Firing Squad).
Ass.
Paul,
Incognito and I are allies in that we oppose GWB. Who, I might add, has caused the deaths of 100,000 Iraqi citizens. Compared to that, I'm not as concerned about racist remarks Incog made in the midst of a heated argument with you (where, I might add, you acted like a complete ass as well). But thanks for your efforts as a member of the LWCFS (Left-Wing Circular Firing Squad).
Ass.
The kitties have arrived!!
The kitties have arrived!!
Paul,
I missed the fact that Incognito is a racist. I haven't seen it. But then I haven't been around when/if he's dissing Arabs or Asians.
And if it is true, then that's his problem to deal with.
Paul,
I missed the fact that Incognito is a racist. I haven't seen it. But then I haven't been around when/if he's dissing Arabs or Asians.
And if it is true, then that's his problem to deal with.
Attention pro-lifers: God is pro-death.
We all die.
That is all.
Attention pro-lifers: God is pro-death.
We all die.
That is all.
"Change what you can, accept what you must, compromise when neccessary, but never, ever give up the fight. That's the only way you can really lose.
Backslider"
MEANWHILE, the election isn't final for two more weeks.
I'm so happy that we can never really lose.
Tell me another story, daddy...I'm scared.
I'll keep your sermon, HOW HOLY IS OUR FAILURE, in mind when I go out to protest in a couple of hours.
It's cat snooze day for atrios. Backslider, your E-string is way flat.
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"Change what you can, accept what you must, compromise when neccessary, but never, ever give up the fight. That's the only way you can really lose.
Backslider"
MEANWHILE, the election isn't final for two more weeks.
I'm so happy that we can never really lose.
Tell me another story, daddy...I'm scared.
I'll keep your sermon, HOW HOLY IS OUR FAILURE, in mind when I go out to protest in a couple of hours.
It's cat snooze day for atrios. Backslider, your E-string is way flat.
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BTW, let's start a rumor that Condi Rice aborted George's fetus today. (Supposedly she had uterine fibroids removed...but I think the onus is on her to prove it wasn't an abortion.)
Lisa
Huh, I thought she was gay.
BTW, let's start a rumor that Condi Rice aborted George's fetus today. (Supposedly she had uterine fibroids removed...but I think the onus is on her to prove it wasn't an abortion.)
Lisa
Huh, I thought she was gay.
"(Supposedly she had uterine fibroids removed...but I think the onus is on her to prove it wasn't an abortion.)"
Urgh. Right, we're in Handmaid's Tale days, so I guess I'd better save mine in the jar after my surgery.
"(Supposedly she had uterine fibroids removed...but I think the onus is on her to prove it wasn't an abortion.)"
Urgh. Right, we're in Handmaid's Tale days, so I guess I'd better save mine in the jar after my surgery.
And I'm somewhat ashamed to admit it...I never cared much for pecan pie.
I admit it's an acquired taste. The trick is less corn syrup, more pecans. Otherwise, it's just a gelatinous, goopy, mess.
Oh, and a healthy splash of bourbon.
And I'm somewhat ashamed to admit it...I never cared much for pecan pie.
I admit it's an acquired taste. The trick is less corn syrup, more pecans. Otherwise, it's just a gelatinous, goopy, mess.
Oh, and a healthy splash of bourbon.
The girl can't get help because her condition isn't worsening, but if she can't get help her condition will worsen.
The girl can't get help because her condition isn't worsening, but if she can't get help her condition will worsen.
I'll keep your sermon, HOW HOLY IS OUR FAILURE, in mind when I go out to protest in a couple of hours.
If you're this much of a cock when you're protesting, maybe you'd do the cause more good by staying home.
I'll keep your sermon, HOW HOLY IS OUR FAILURE, in mind when I go out to protest in a couple of hours.
If you're this much of a cock when you're protesting, maybe you'd do the cause more good by staying home.
watertiger,
I love pecan pie. Mmmmm.....
watertiger,
I love pecan pie. Mmmmm.....
Paul--
i think most of us here understand that no map based on the current vote "counts" will accurately reflect the exact, real numbers. i think we've all been supporting the Cobb/Badnarik & Bev Harris funds to greater or lesser extents, and signing the petitions for voting reform & transparency.
my point with the map is ONLY that people voted for various candidates in every state, to differing degrees (as in, no state is 100% filled with 100% Any Political Party--most individuals LEAN one way or the other, but are closer to the middle than to either end of the spectrum, and they are spread all over the country, not divided into North and South.) people have been raggin' on our southern folks over it, and that's not fair.
no, it can't be a totally accurate reflection of the reality of how people WANTED or TRIED to vote, since so many were stopped, and since the counts have been skewed at LEAST by accident, and at LEAST in a number of states...but for now, it sure as hell beats the MSM propaganda map that is being shoved down everyone's throats along with that fake ass Man Date.
that propaganda is meant to divide the people, and to demoralize the left half of us...and THAT is what i am also trying to counter. how can we fight back at all, in any manner, if we are convinced that there are hardly any of us, and we are all in isolated little pockets in the north-east and west coast? even using the current "count", almost half the VAP did not vote (or was stopped from voting,) and of those who got through, and got counted, the numbers for Bush vs. Kerry + Others are nearly even. so, they are even needing to spin their own possibly fraudulent numbers! i am just using their own counts against them.
i really seem to always say things the entirely wrong way for you, and i'm sorry about that.
peace.
-L.
Paul--
i think most of us here understand that no map based on the current vote "counts" will accurately reflect the exact, real numbers. i think we've all been supporting the Cobb/Badnarik & Bev Harris funds to greater or lesser extents, and signing the petitions for voting reform & transparency.
my point with the map is ONLY that people voted for various candidates in every state, to differing degrees (as in, no state is 100% filled with 100% Any Political Party--most individuals LEAN one way or the other, but are closer to the middle than to either end of the spectrum, and they are spread all over the country, not divided into North and South.) people have been raggin' on our southern folks over it, and that's not fair.
no, it can't be a totally accurate reflection of the reality of how people WANTED or TRIED to vote, since so many were stopped, and since the counts have been skewed at LEAST by accident, and at LEAST in a number of states...but for now, it sure as hell beats the MSM propaganda map that is being shoved down everyone's throats along with that fake ass Man Date.
that propaganda is meant to divide the people, and to demoralize the left half of us...and THAT is what i am also trying to counter. how can we fight back at all, in any manner, if we are convinced that there are hardly any of us, and we are all in isolated little pockets in the north-east and west coast? even using the current "count", almost half the VAP did not vote (or was stopped from voting,) and of those who got through, and got counted, the numbers for Bush vs. Kerry + Others are nearly even. so, they are even needing to spin their own possibly fraudulent numbers! i am just using their own counts against them.
i really seem to always say things the entirely wrong way for you, and i'm sorry about that.
peace.
-L.
Ooh good, Dawna is here. Let's see how long it takes her to break into outright trollery.
/leaves for the catblogging thread
Ooh good, Dawna is here. Let's see how long it takes her to break into outright trollery.
/leaves for the catblogging thread
Dear Backslider:
I will NEVER put quote marks around your e-name again. You see, I did that because I know, deep down, that you're not a backslider, that you are washed in the blood, that you surrender all and that you have a personal relationship, and all that. You can't fool me, another Son of the South. But, I won't offend you, either.
As for your brother's take on things, he's apparently conflated Siegelman and Riley. Siegelman was, indeed, elected "on the Lottery" in '98, and when the Alabama Taliban defeated it in '99 (with the help of Ralph Reed and a consortium of Mississippi casinos thank-you-very-much), Siegelman basically had nothing left. Stupid of him. Oh, he also got elected because people hated Fob James, but that may have been the last time for decades that American Talibaners actually considered someone too wacko for them, witness Roy Moore, W. Bush and that nut in Oklahoma who's now a Senator-Elect.
Anyway, Riley got elected in '02 by a little over 8,000 votes. He proposed a tax increase (based, to his marketing credit, on "Christian Principals") to see if he could keep Alabama's economy and education system in parity with Sudan and Haiti. The Good Christians in Alabama consulted the Book of Greed (Chapt 13, Verses 4-) and found the words: "And lo! And angel did appear and say unto them, 'Screw Jesus, man! Just show me da money!'" Armed with the Good Book as their guide, they crushed the tax around 65-35.
So, Riley's testicles are now on the ash-pile right next to Siegelman's. But Riley's doing his best to get back into the good graces of his base by behaving like a bloated, inflamed asshole every chance he gets.
.
Dear Backslider:
I will NEVER put quote marks around your e-name again. You see, I did that because I know, deep down, that you're not a backslider, that you are washed in the blood, that you surrender all and that you have a personal relationship, and all that. You can't fool me, another Son of the South. But, I won't offend you, either.
As for your brother's take on things, he's apparently conflated Siegelman and Riley. Siegelman was, indeed, elected "on the Lottery" in '98, and when the Alabama Taliban defeated it in '99 (with the help of Ralph Reed and a consortium of Mississippi casinos thank-you-very-much), Siegelman basically had nothing left. Stupid of him. Oh, he also got elected because people hated Fob James, but that may have been the last time for decades that American Talibaners actually considered someone too wacko for them, witness Roy Moore, W. Bush and that nut in Oklahoma who's now a Senator-Elect.
Anyway, Riley got elected in '02 by a little over 8,000 votes. He proposed a tax increase (based, to his marketing credit, on "Christian Principals") to see if he could keep Alabama's economy and education system in parity with Sudan and Haiti. The Good Christians in Alabama consulted the Book of Greed (Chapt 13, Verses 4-) and found the words: "And lo! And angel did appear and say unto them, 'Screw Jesus, man! Just show me da money!'" Armed with the Good Book as their guide, they crushed the tax around 65-35.
So, Riley's testicles are now on the ash-pile right next to Siegelman's. But Riley's doing his best to get back into the good graces of his base by behaving like a bloated, inflamed asshole every chance he gets.
.
Baby Jesus saw what you wrote Paul, and he's going to punish you for it....
Baby Jesus saw what you wrote Paul, and he's going to punish you for it....
Backslider--I humbly apologize and hang my head in shame as one of those who characterize the south as "ignorant". Ignorance, unfortunately, like enlightenment, can be found everywhere, including my own backyard. I react to the "northern elitist" cant with a similar absurdity. Yes, just like the blue/red crap, this too is divisive.
Backslider--I humbly apologize and hang my head in shame as one of those who characterize the south as "ignorant". Ignorance, unfortunately, like enlightenment, can be found everywhere, including my own backyard. I react to the "northern elitist" cant with a similar absurdity. Yes, just like the blue/red crap, this too is divisive.
Librarian ~
There are a few people around here that I offend more often than I'd like to. That post you wrote was very nice.
Librarian ~
There are a few people around here that I offend more often than I'd like to. That post you wrote was very nice.
Dear Backslider:
I will NEVER put quote marks around your e-name again. You see, I did that because I know, deep down, that you're not a backslider, that you are washed in the blood, that you surrender all and that you have a personal relationship, and all that. You can't fool me, another Son of the South. But, I won't offend you, either.
As for your brother's take on things, he's apparently conflated Siegelman and Riley. Siegelman was, indeed, elected "on the Lottery" in '98, and when the Alabama Taliban defeated it in '99 (with the help of Ralph Reed and a consortium of Mississippi casinos thank-you-very-much), Siegelman basically had nothing left. Stupid of him. Oh, he also got elected because people hated Fob James, but that may have been the last time for decades that American Talibaners actually considered someone too wacko for them, witness Roy Moore, W. Bush and that nut in Oklahoma who's now a Senator-Elect.
Anyway, Riley got elected in '02 by a little over 8,000 votes. He proposed a tax increase (based, to his marketing credit, on "Christian Principals") to see if he could keep Alabama's economy and education system in parity with Sudan and Haiti. The Good Christians in Alabama consulted the Book of Greed (Chapt 13, Verses 4-) and found the words: "And lo! And angel did appear and say unto them, 'Screw Jesus, man! Just show me da money!'" Armed with the Good Book as their guide, they crushed the tax around 65-35.
So, Riley's testicles are now on the ash-pile right next to Siegelman's. But Riley's doing his best to get back into the good graces of his base by behaving like a bloated, inflamed asshole every chance he gets.
.
Dear Backslider:
I will NEVER put quote marks around your e-name again. You see, I did that because I know, deep down, that you're not a backslider, that you are washed in the blood, that you surrender all and that you have a personal relationship, and all that. You can't fool me, another Son of the South. But, I won't offend you, either.
As for your brother's take on things, he's apparently conflated Siegelman and Riley. Siegelman was, indeed, elected "on the Lottery" in '98, and when the Alabama Taliban defeated it in '99 (with the help of Ralph Reed and a consortium of Mississippi casinos thank-you-very-much), Siegelman basically had nothing left. Stupid of him. Oh, he also got elected because people hated Fob James, but that may have been the last time for decades that American Talibaners actually considered someone too wacko for them, witness Roy Moore, W. Bush and that nut in Oklahoma who's now a Senator-Elect.
Anyway, Riley got elected in '02 by a little over 8,000 votes. He proposed a tax increase (based, to his marketing credit, on "Christian Principals") to see if he could keep Alabama's economy and education system in parity with Sudan and Haiti. The Good Christians in Alabama consulted the Book of Greed (Chapt 13, Verses 4-) and found the words: "And lo! And angel did appear and say unto them, 'Screw Jesus, man! Just show me da money!'" Armed with the Good Book as their guide, they crushed the tax around 65-35.
So, Riley's testicles are now on the ash-pile right next to Siegelman's. But Riley's doing his best to get back into the good graces of his base by behaving like a bloated, inflamed asshole every chance he gets.
.
"Paul, I missed the fact that Incognito is a racist. I haven't seen it. But then I haven't been around when/if he's dissing Arabs or Asians."
I have promised to remind the atriosans of it whenever the topic comes up.
He has expressed VIRULENTLY racist, anti-Arab, anti-Asian statements, repeatedly. He has some experiences traveling in the Arab world, and apparently thinks that Asians do not have sufficiently large penii, and therefore should be expunged.
He has repeatedly attacked Islam ("Arabs with their butts in the air"), and believes that Arab culture is permanently perverse. As a gay, his fantasy boys are all Nordic, muscular, and hung.
Gay racists...like Jewish Nazis...I meet them all the time. They tell me we should kill all the Arabs, but then they show me their Star of David and insist that means they cannot be racists.
"And if it is true, then that's his problem to deal with.
Vicki Stein"
The problem with racism is much more than his problem, but in all cases it is a violation of our ideals of freedom.
--
"Paul, I missed the fact that Incognito is a racist. I haven't seen it. But then I haven't been around when/if he's dissing Arabs or Asians."
I have promised to remind the atriosans of it whenever the topic comes up.
He has expressed VIRULENTLY racist, anti-Arab, anti-Asian statements, repeatedly. He has some experiences traveling in the Arab world, and apparently thinks that Asians do not have sufficiently large penii, and therefore should be expunged.
He has repeatedly attacked Islam ("Arabs with their butts in the air"), and believes that Arab culture is permanently perverse. As a gay, his fantasy boys are all Nordic, muscular, and hung.
Gay racists...like Jewish Nazis...I meet them all the time. They tell me we should kill all the Arabs, but then they show me their Star of David and insist that means they cannot be racists.
"And if it is true, then that's his problem to deal with.
Vicki Stein"
The problem with racism is much more than his problem, but in all cases it is a violation of our ideals of freedom.
--
Dear Backslider:
I will NEVER put quote marks around your e-name again. You see, I did that because I know, deep down, that you're not a backslider, that you are washed in the blood, that you surrender all and that you have a personal relationship, and all that. You can't fool me, another Son of the South. But, I won't offend you, either.
As for your brother's take on things, he's apparently conflated Siegelman and Riley. Siegelman was, indeed, elected "on the Lottery" in '98, and when the Alabama Taliban defeated it in '99 (with the help of Ralph Reed and a consortium of Mississippi casinos thank-you-very-much), Siegelman basically had nothing left. Stupid of him. Oh, he also got elected because people hated Fob James, but that may have been the last time for decades that American Talibaners actually considered someone too wacko for them, witness Roy Moore, W. Bush and that nut in Oklahoma who's now a Senator-Elect.
Anyway, Riley got elected in '02 by a little over 8,000 votes. He proposed a tax increase (based, to his marketing credit, on "Christian Principals") to see if he could keep Alabama's economy and education system in parity with Sudan and Haiti. The Good Christians in Alabama consulted the Book of Greed (Chapt 13, Verses 4-) and found the words: "And lo! And angel did appear and say unto them, 'Screw Jesus, man! Just show me da money!'" Armed with the Good Book as their guide, they crushed the tax around 65-35.
So, Riley's testicles are now on the ash-pile right next to Siegelman's. But Riley's doing his best to get back into the good graces of his base by behaving like a bloated, inflamed asshole every chance he gets.
.
Dear Backslider:
I will NEVER put quote marks around your e-name again. You see, I did that because I know, deep down, that you're not a backslider, that you are washed in the blood, that you surrender all and that you have a personal relationship, and all that. You can't fool me, another Son of the South. But, I won't offend you, either.
As for your brother's take on things, he's apparently conflated Siegelman and Riley. Siegelman was, indeed, elected "on the Lottery" in '98, and when the Alabama Taliban defeated it in '99 (with the help of Ralph Reed and a consortium of Mississippi casinos thank-you-very-much), Siegelman basically had nothing left. Stupid of him. Oh, he also got elected because people hated Fob James, but that may have been the last time for decades that American Talibaners actually considered someone too wacko for them, witness Roy Moore, W. Bush and that nut in Oklahoma who's now a Senator-Elect.
Anyway, Riley got elected in '02 by a little over 8,000 votes. He proposed a tax increase (based, to his marketing credit, on "Christian Principals") to see if he could keep Alabama's economy and education system in parity with Sudan and Haiti. The Good Christians in Alabama consulted the Book of Greed (Chapt 13, Verses 4-) and found the words: "And lo! And angel did appear and say unto them, 'Screw Jesus, man! Just show me da money!'" Armed with the Good Book as their guide, they crushed the tax around 65-35.
So, Riley's testicles are now on the ash-pile right next to Siegelman's. But Riley's doing his best to get back into the good graces of his base by behaving like a bloated, inflamed asshole every chance he gets.
.
"If you're this much of a cock when you're protesting, maybe you'd do the cause more good by staying home.
int argc"
Like you do.
More than 100,000 civilians slaughtered.
Sit on your can and feel holy with Backslider.
--
"If you're this much of a cock when you're protesting, maybe you'd do the cause more good by staying home.
int argc"
Like you do.
More than 100,000 civilians slaughtered.
Sit on your can and feel holy with Backslider.
--
As a gay, his fantasy boys are all Nordic, muscular, and hung.
Are you calling me a Size Queen?? That's not true. I don't care what size it is as long as it's big.
As a gay, his fantasy boys are all Nordic, muscular, and hung.
Are you calling me a Size Queen?? That's not true. I don't care what size it is as long as it's big.
When the little girl dies,Rick Santorum can bring the body home so his children can have a new playmate.
When the little girl dies,Rick Santorum can bring the body home so his children can have a new playmate.
hlm,
Nah, that's probably my confusing more'n Little Brother's. Either way, you're point's totally correct. Riley's pretty much an empty shell to the party at this point, as he reaction to this whole Lauren issue shows.
And, for the record, I am an honest and true "backslider". I was indeed washed in the Blood Of The Lamb at Enon Primative Baptist Church when I was 12. However, I grew up to be a pot-smoking, beer-drinking, marriage-avoiding, free-thinking agnostic. So, therefore, I'm a "backslider" in the purest sense of the word.
Paul,
With all due respect, sir, you missed my point entirely. Did I say to not protest or fight the voter fraud? Please point out where I said "Just lie down and take it". If you'll read, my whole point is to explicitly not give up the good fight. Just because a specific battle may be lost, loathe as I am to use war metaphors, doesn't mean the war's lost.
Win, lose or draw, it's gonna be a tough fight, but we knew that going in. Doesn't mean you don't do what's right.
Have fun at the protest.
hlm,
Nah, that's probably my confusing more'n Little Brother's. Either way, you're point's totally correct. Riley's pretty much an empty shell to the party at this point, as he reaction to this whole Lauren issue shows.
And, for the record, I am an honest and true "backslider". I was indeed washed in the Blood Of The Lamb at Enon Primative Baptist Church when I was 12. However, I grew up to be a pot-smoking, beer-drinking, marriage-avoiding, free-thinking agnostic. So, therefore, I'm a "backslider" in the purest sense of the word.
Paul,
With all due respect, sir, you missed my point entirely. Did I say to not protest or fight the voter fraud? Please point out where I said "Just lie down and take it". If you'll read, my whole point is to explicitly not give up the good fight. Just because a specific battle may be lost, loathe as I am to use war metaphors, doesn't mean the war's lost.
Win, lose or draw, it's gonna be a tough fight, but we knew that going in. Doesn't mean you don't do what's right.
Have fun at the protest.
"Compared to that, I'm not as concerned about racist remarks Incog made in the midst of a heated argument"
These remarks were not made in a heated argument with me, though I do not tolerate such statements and argued with him about them.
Nor has he ever recanted his views. Tell me again how racists who support the murder of Arabs oppose the Iraqi invasion. I need a good laugh.
--
"Compared to that, I'm not as concerned about racist remarks Incog made in the midst of a heated argument"
These remarks were not made in a heated argument with me, though I do not tolerate such statements and argued with him about them.
Nor has he ever recanted his views. Tell me again how racists who support the murder of Arabs oppose the Iraqi invasion. I need a good laugh.
--
This is what health care will look like for the poor, terminally ill, and disabled under the christo-fascist reicht.
Compassionate conservatism my pink ass.
four legs good
This is what healthcare has looked like for at least a decade. I have a chronicly ill child and we've had several battles with insurance companies over treatment. I tried to point this out yesterday and was called a troll and personally attacked by a few truely pathetic individuals. Also something not mentioned is the financial burden taken on by the family who has to seek law professionals to force the insurance to provide treatment. I offered the personal facts to let people know these kinds of things do happen on a daily basis to middle class families too.
This is what health care will look like for the poor, terminally ill, and disabled under the christo-fascist reicht.
Compassionate conservatism my pink ass.
four legs good
This is what healthcare has looked like for at least a decade. I have a chronicly ill child and we've had several battles with insurance companies over treatment. I tried to point this out yesterday and was called a troll and personally attacked by a few truely pathetic individuals. Also something not mentioned is the financial burden taken on by the family who has to seek law professionals to force the insurance to provide treatment. I offered the personal facts to let people know these kinds of things do happen on a daily basis to middle class families too.
best grits & biscuit in the world:
Quarter Scene Cafe, French Quarter, N'awlins
-L.
best grits & biscuit in the world:
Quarter Scene Cafe, French Quarter, N'awlins
-L.
"Have fun at the protest.
Backslider"
Oh, sure, it's going to be a laugh riot.
The tanks and APC at the last one was hilarious.
How come people have so much tinsel in their hair around here?
Demented.
--
"Have fun at the protest.
Backslider"
Oh, sure, it's going to be a laugh riot.
The tanks and APC at the last one was hilarious.
How come people have so much tinsel in their hair around here?
Demented.
--
Can't Lauren get married, move to Florida, and then have her husband threaten to pull the plug? The governor there would make sure she lives forever.
Can't Lauren get married, move to Florida, and then have her husband threaten to pull the plug? The governor there would make sure she lives forever.
"Frankly, I personally don't understand why anyone would live in L.A. "
Neither do I, Backslider. The last time I was there, while I was having dinner in a restaurant I overheard a woman say triumphantly to her husband, "see, there *is* another woman in this city wearing glasses!"
Another conversation- a young girl, awestruck, to a woman with a salt-and-pepper gray Mohawk: "Wow, your hair is, like, totally awesome! How did you get it to look that way?" Older woman, chuckling "It's natural."
Three serious fashion crimes to avoid in La-la land: failure to get Lasik surgery, or at least contacts, being satisfied with the body God gave you, and going anywhere on foot when you could possibly be driving.
There's a cartoon I saw once where a group of passengers was coming out of the gate, and the caption was: "Welcome to LAX. Do you have any physical imperfections to declare?"
"Frankly, I personally don't understand why anyone would live in L.A. "
Neither do I, Backslider. The last time I was there, while I was having dinner in a restaurant I overheard a woman say triumphantly to her husband, "see, there *is* another woman in this city wearing glasses!"
Another conversation- a young girl, awestruck, to a woman with a salt-and-pepper gray Mohawk: "Wow, your hair is, like, totally awesome! How did you get it to look that way?" Older woman, chuckling "It's natural."
Three serious fashion crimes to avoid in La-la land: failure to get Lasik surgery, or at least contacts, being satisfied with the body God gave you, and going anywhere on foot when you could possibly be driving.
There's a cartoon I saw once where a group of passengers was coming out of the gate, and the caption was: "Welcome to LAX. Do you have any physical imperfections to declare?"
thanks Vicki
-L.
thanks Vicki
-L.
My e-mail to the governor was probably more respectful than he deserves, but I appealed to his sense of human decency (and I thought, while he was trying to push through higher taxes, that he had some). Hopefully, it will make a difference.
Slightly OT, for those of you who haven't seen this, our heroine, Bev Harris, found some funky things going on in FL:
My e-mail to the governor was probably more respectful than he deserves, but I appealed to his sense of human decency (and I thought, while he was trying to push through higher taxes, that he had some). Hopefully, it will make a difference.
Slightly OT, for those of you who haven't seen this, our heroine, Bev Harris, found some funky things going on in FL:
Paul, I apologize for what I wrote. I didn't mean it.
Paul, I apologize for what I wrote. I didn't mean it.
Paul,
Well, I do hope you enjoy yourself, anyway. Personally, I try to enjoy myself no matter what situation I'm in. Make the best of a bad situation, as it were. I've been in a couple tense protest situations - spent a couple hours in holding after a pot legalization rally with the definite threat of impending ass-kicking - but one has to at least admit a certain amount of dark humor when first ammendment rights are fought so vigorously by them charged with protecting said rights.
Paul,
Well, I do hope you enjoy yourself, anyway. Personally, I try to enjoy myself no matter what situation I'm in. Make the best of a bad situation, as it were. I've been in a couple tense protest situations - spent a couple hours in holding after a pot legalization rally with the definite threat of impending ass-kicking - but one has to at least admit a certain amount of dark humor when first ammendment rights are fought so vigorously by them charged with protecting said rights.
Sisi,
Shallowness of the Entertainment Biz aside - I didn't see much of it whilst I was there, though I did see some hilarious examples of L.A. rock & rollers - it's the damn earthquakes that freak me out. The ground's not supposed to move. That's nature's way of telling you that this is a place where rats fuck and that's it.
But hey...to each, his or her own.
Sisi,
Shallowness of the Entertainment Biz aside - I didn't see much of it whilst I was there, though I did see some hilarious examples of L.A. rock & rollers - it's the damn earthquakes that freak me out. The ground's not supposed to move. That's nature's way of telling you that this is a place where rats fuck and that's it.
But hey...to each, his or her own.
Let me try that again (OK, I'm html illiterate!):
Let me try that again (OK, I'm html illiterate!):
Oh crap, screw the link, here's the url:
http://www.commondreams.org/view...s04/1118-
22.htm
Oh crap, screw the link, here's the url:
http://www.commondreams.org/view...s04/1118-
22.htm
Backslider (notice the no quotes?):
From hlm (H.L. Mencken) to you:
"The God business is really quite simple. No sane man denies that the universe presents phenomena quite beyond human understanding, and so it is a fair assumption that they are directed by some understanding that is superhuman. But that is as far as sound thought can go. All religions pretend to go further. That is, they pretend to explain the unknowable. As I said long ago, they do it in terms of the not worth knowing. . . . Anyone who pretends to say what God wants or doesn't want, and what the whole show is about, is simply an ass. . . .
"In other words, the objection to religion is that it represents an effort by ignorance to account for a mystery that knowledge simply puts aside as intrinsically impenetrable."
By the way, the wife's in Atlanta tonight. Think I'm gonna go eat some catfish. There's a place down the road that people've been talking about is "the best around" (I'm a relative newcomer to the town I'm in now, but not to the State) and I think it's time to do a little investigative eating. You've inspired me. Besides, I love my wife so much I wouldn't want to take a chance on us going together for the first time and her being disappointed. Damn I'm good.
.
Backslider (notice the no quotes?):
From hlm (H.L. Mencken) to you:
"The God business is really quite simple. No sane man denies that the universe presents phenomena quite beyond human understanding, and so it is a fair assumption that they are directed by some understanding that is superhuman. But that is as far as sound thought can go. All religions pretend to go further. That is, they pretend to explain the unknowable. As I said long ago, they do it in terms of the not worth knowing. . . . Anyone who pretends to say what God wants or doesn't want, and what the whole show is about, is simply an ass. . . .
"In other words, the objection to religion is that it represents an effort by ignorance to account for a mystery that knowledge simply puts aside as intrinsically impenetrable."
By the way, the wife's in Atlanta tonight. Think I'm gonna go eat some catfish. There's a place down the road that people've been talking about is "the best around" (I'm a relative newcomer to the town I'm in now, but not to the State) and I think it's time to do a little investigative eating. You've inspired me. Besides, I love my wife so much I wouldn't want to take a chance on us going together for the first time and her being disappointed. Damn I'm good.
.
Backslider (notice the no quotes?):
From hlm (H.L. Mencken) to you:
"The God business is really quite simple. No sane man denies that the universe presents phenomena quite beyond human understanding, and so it is a fair assumption that they are directed by some understanding that is superhuman. But that is as far as sound thought can go. All religions pretend to go further. That is, they pretend to explain the unknowable. As I said long ago, they do it in terms of the not worth knowing. . . . Anyone who pretends to say what God wants or doesn't want, and what the whole show is about, is simply an ass. . . .
"In other words, the objection to religion is that it represents an effort by ignorance to account for a mystery that knowledge simply puts aside as intrinsically impenetrable."
By the way, the wife's in Atlanta tonight. Think I'm gonna go eat some catfish. There's a place down the road that people've been talking about is "the best around" (I'm a relative newcomer to the town I'm in now, but not to the State) and I think it's time to do a little investigative eating. You've inspired me. Besides, I love my wife so much I wouldn't want to take a chance on us going together for the first time and her being disappointed. Damn I'm good.
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Backslider (notice the no quotes?):
From hlm (H.L. Mencken) to you:
"The God business is really quite simple. No sane man denies that the universe presents phenomena quite beyond human understanding, and so it is a fair assumption that they are directed by some understanding that is superhuman. But that is as far as sound thought can go. All religions pretend to go further. That is, they pretend to explain the unknowable. As I said long ago, they do it in terms of the not worth knowing. . . . Anyone who pretends to say what God wants or doesn't want, and what the whole show is about, is simply an ass. . . .
"In other words, the objection to religion is that it represents an effort by ignorance to account for a mystery that knowledge simply puts aside as intrinsically impenetrable."
By the way, the wife's in Atlanta tonight. Think I'm gonna go eat some catfish. There's a place down the road that people've been talking about is "the best around" (I'm a relative newcomer to the town I'm in now, but not to the State) and I think it's time to do a little investigative eating. You've inspired me. Besides, I love my wife so much I wouldn't want to take a chance on us going together for the first time and her being disappointed. Damn I'm good.
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hlm,
Please, no worries on the quotes. I was just curious. I actually got accused of being a name-stealer the other night.
Go for the catfish. I've still yet to find a decent place here in Athens. And for a incredible asshole, ol' Henry Louis - definately one of my spiritual bookends - sure had a way with words. That's why I love science: "This is the way the universe works...we think."
hlm,
Please, no worries on the quotes. I was just curious. I actually got accused of being a name-stealer the other night.
Go for the catfish. I've still yet to find a decent place here in Athens. And for a incredible asshole, ol' Henry Louis - definately one of my spiritual bookends - sure had a way with words. That's why I love science: "This is the way the universe works...we think."
John Thorne's recipe for pecan pie uses Golden Syrup (a British product) instead of corn syrup, and the results are excellent. John's from Maine, BTW. The recipe as we know it was popularized by the makers of Karo. Older recipes, like the one I use, do not call for any corn syrup at all.
John Thorne's recipe for pecan pie uses Golden Syrup (a British product) instead of corn syrup, and the results are excellent. John's from Maine, BTW. The recipe as we know it was popularized by the makers of Karo. Older recipes, like the one I use, do not call for any corn syrup at all.
Paul, for the record, i DO believe that Ohio (at least) was fiddled with electronically, and i am CERTAIN that the extra effort put into the same old Jim Crow tactics against campuses & urban neighborhoods might have been enough all by itself to steal Ohio (& at least FLA) from Kerry (if it was anything like what happened in Pgh & Philly, anyhow.)
PA & Ohio are more alike than not, in every way except that we still have Dems in control of the county apparatus around the two cities, and a Dem Governor, whereas Ohio does not.
Pgh and Cleveland are practically the same city in two locations. we beat the cheating spread here, but in Ohio somehow they did not--now, is it because the suppression was more active over there? it was, but how much more i don't know (since no one is really collecting up stories for PA as we made it over that hurdle.) but more likely, i think, is that at least SOME fiddling was done with vote counts--just enough, on top of the voter suppression, to flip the state.
i hope we find the evidence.
i hope when we do, someone gives a damn.
i hope if the state of Ohio gets flipped back--that the people of the US have not been so utterly brainwashed by the "mandate" and the red state/blue state TV maps that they are unable to accept a President Kerry...
now, all that being said, i DO disagree with you about that landslide thing...i DO think Kerry won (or would have, in a fair election,) but i still think it would have been closer than i am comfortable with (the popular vote, i mean.)
i also am not ready to jump down Kerry's throat just yet over his handling of this--as has been stated, this election ain't over until the electors go to DC. he is using some of that "leftover" money on lawyers who are in Ohio now (and from what i've heard a couple other states as well.)
should we expect a full accounting of the money spent after the dust settles? absolutely. if we don't get one then, should be demand one? damn straight. am i going to get sidetracked into bitching about that now, while we are still trying to get a fair count of Ohio, an audit of Diebold in New Hampshire (& maybe other states,) ? NO F'N WAY.
okay, i feel lighter now.
even though you tend to always start out by SHOUTING at me, Paul...i still kinda' like you. so there.
-L.
Paul, for the record, i DO believe that Ohio (at least) was fiddled with electronically, and i am CERTAIN that the extra effort put into the same old Jim Crow tactics against campuses & urban neighborhoods might have been enough all by itself to steal Ohio (& at least FLA) from Kerry (if it was anything like what happened in Pgh & Philly, anyhow.)
PA & Ohio are more alike than not, in every way except that we still have Dems in control of the county apparatus around the two cities, and a Dem Governor, whereas Ohio does not.
Pgh and Cleveland are practically the same city in two locations. we beat the cheating spread here, but in Ohio somehow they did not--now, is it because the suppression was more active over there? it was, but how much more i don't know (since no one is really collecting up stories for PA as we made it over that hurdle.) but more likely, i think, is that at least SOME fiddling was done with vote counts--just enough, on top of the voter suppression, to flip the state.
i hope we find the evidence.
i hope when we do, someone gives a damn.
i hope if the state of Ohio gets flipped back--that the people of the US have not been so utterly brainwashed by the "mandate" and the red state/blue state TV maps that they are unable to accept a President Kerry...
now, all that being said, i DO disagree with you about that landslide thing...i DO think Kerry won (or would have, in a fair election,) but i still think it would have been closer than i am comfortable with (the popular vote, i mean.)
i also am not ready to jump down Kerry's throat just yet over his handling of this--as has been stated, this election ain't over until the electors go to DC. he is using some of that "leftover" money on lawyers who are in Ohio now (and from what i've heard a couple other states as well.)
should we expect a full accounting of the money spent after the dust settles? absolutely. if we don't get one then, should be demand one? damn straight. am i going to get sidetracked into bitching about that now, while we are still trying to get a fair count of Ohio, an audit of Diebold in New Hampshire (& maybe other states,) ? NO F'N WAY.
okay, i feel lighter now.
even though you tend to always start out by SHOUTING at me, Paul...i still kinda' like you. so there.
-L.
Good riffing with you some, Backslider.
Gotta run. By the way, don't know if this means anything to you (knowing you're a transplant to Athens and all), but I hope you'll wish my side luck tomorrow against those other forces of evil on the planet earth who will be sullying the hallowed ground of Bryant-Denny Stadium tomorrow. After the first few minutes of last week's game, I just knew the Dogs were going to wipe the field up with the plainsmen-tiger-wargles (why CAN'T they pick a name?!!), but, alas . . .
RTR
Looking forward to running into you again 'round these parts.
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Good riffing with you some, Backslider.
Gotta run. By the way, don't know if this means anything to you (knowing you're a transplant to Athens and all), but I hope you'll wish my side luck tomorrow against those other forces of evil on the planet earth who will be sullying the hallowed ground of Bryant-Denny Stadium tomorrow. After the first few minutes of last week's game, I just knew the Dogs were going to wipe the field up with the plainsmen-tiger-wargles (why CAN'T they pick a name?!!), but, alas . . .
RTR
Looking forward to running into you again 'round these parts.
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backslider--i think that is the latest troll device: they steal someone's name in order to post an accusation that someone ELSE is a name-stealing troll.
as in "backslider is a name-stealing troll. --pie"
they may not be clever, but they are self-reflexive.
paul--take care of yourself out there (you probably don't need me to tell you that.) take a cel phone, get someone at home to stay on the line with you if things start looking hairy--that's what i do, anyhow. then at least i can't get totally "disappeared"!
-L.
backslider--i think that is the latest troll device: they steal someone's name in order to post an accusation that someone ELSE is a name-stealing troll.
as in "backslider is a name-stealing troll. --pie"
they may not be clever, but they are self-reflexive.
paul--take care of yourself out there (you probably don't need me to tell you that.) take a cel phone, get someone at home to stay on the line with you if things start looking hairy--that's what i do, anyhow. then at least i can't get totally "disappeared"!
-L.
I just fired out an email to the Guv of Alabama. They're pro death if you're breathing and functioning, that's fer damn sure!
I'm glad Nick and lots of others are raising hell!! Goddamn sanctimonious fascist rightwingers trying to kill off the disabled.
Lovely. [not-sarcasm alert]
Jeebus, and I thought Texas was backwards!! Whewww!!
I just fired out an email to the Guv of Alabama. They're pro death if you're breathing and functioning, that's fer damn sure!
I'm glad Nick and lots of others are raising hell!! Goddamn sanctimonious fascist rightwingers trying to kill off the disabled.
Lovely. [not-sarcasm alert]
Jeebus, and I thought Texas was backwards!! Whewww!!
hlm,
It caused a minor scandal at my high school - in a heavy Ole Miss-Miss. State battleground town - when I came out as a fan of Bear Bryant's boys. Met the man himself as a young sprout, and apparently, it had a lasting effect. As for the Georgia loss, there was a whole lot unhappy people this past Saturday. They basically pissed away their season.
And to confuse matters even further, I'm a '97 graduate of The University Of Florida. I manage to piss everyone off.
Librarian,
Perhaps that was it. I don't recall the handle, but feh...no skin off my nose, one way or another, ya know?
hlm,
It caused a minor scandal at my high school - in a heavy Ole Miss-Miss. State battleground town - when I came out as a fan of Bear Bryant's boys. Met the man himself as a young sprout, and apparently, it had a lasting effect. As for the Georgia loss, there was a whole lot unhappy people this past Saturday. They basically pissed away their season.
And to confuse matters even further, I'm a '97 graduate of The University Of Florida. I manage to piss everyone off.
Librarian,
Perhaps that was it. I don't recall the handle, but feh...no skin off my nose, one way or another, ya know?
A lot of pressure needs to be put on the governor about the "respect for life" equating this with abortion and saying that Lauren has a right to life. It's one of those things they try to do under the media's watch, but bring it to people's attention and get a reaction. AFter all, this is the classic sob story human interest piece that network news likes. The comment above was right. If Jeb Bush will go to court to keep someone in a coma alive for years, than why do they want to kill Lauren? I feel so sorry for the Mom because she said the standards will give her 3 hours of housework but no nursing care. How crazy is this?
A lot of pressure needs to be put on the governor about the "respect for life" equating this with abortion and saying that Lauren has a right to life. It's one of those things they try to do under the media's watch, but bring it to people's attention and get a reaction. AFter all, this is the classic sob story human interest piece that network news likes. The comment above was right. If Jeb Bush will go to court to keep someone in a coma alive for years, than why do they want to kill Lauren? I feel so sorry for the Mom because she said the standards will give her 3 hours of housework but no nursing care. How crazy is this?
I tried to alert the media to this story. The only reply I got was a yawn.
I tried to alert the media to this story. The only reply I got was a yawn.
Please keep following this story Atrios!
Please keep following this story Atrios!
Well what do you want from the Christian right?
Christian moral values?
Well what do you want from the Christian right?
Christian moral values?
I'm quite impressed with Nick Dupree turning around and helping someone else with his experience. Good man Nick.
I'm quite impressed with Nick Dupree turning around and helping someone else with his experience. Good man Nick.
Thanks for posting this Atrios!
As some of you know, Bruce Mildwurf, the reporter that brought my story, "Nick's Crusade," - http://NicksCrusade.com - to the forefront of Mobile news, recently brought us the story of Lauren Rainey on WPMI. I've kept him on Medicaid issues.
Since the first story aired, I've spread her story far and wide. It has caught fire on the internet and gotten worldwide attention and Michael Moore even added it to the "Must Read" section on his site.
Keep up to date on my blog!
http://www.xanga.com/skin.asp?
us...user=nickdupree
Nick
Thanks for posting this Atrios!
As some of you know, Bruce Mildwurf, the reporter that brought my story, "Nick's Crusade," - http://NicksCrusade.com - to the forefront of Mobile news, recently brought us the story of Lauren Rainey on WPMI. I've kept him on Medicaid issues.
Since the first story aired, I've spread her story far and wide. It has caught fire on the internet and gotten worldwide attention and Michael Moore even added it to the "Must Read" section on his site.
Keep up to date on my blog!
http://www.xanga.com/skin.asp?
us...user=nickdupree
Nick
PRO ??? LIFE ????
PRO ??? LIFE ????
Why do they love fetuses so much? I mean, really, why? They don't care about the life of anyone or anything that has already been born... it seems so odd to me.
Is it maybe because each and every fetus... until the actual birth... COULD be the new Savior?
That's just a wild guess/theory. I really would like to know the answer, if anybody knows. Email would be great, in case I lose track of the thread.
It doesn't have to be a GOOD reason. I just really want to know why. Seriously.
Why do they love fetuses so much? I mean, really, why? They don't care about the life of anyone or anything that has already been born... it seems so odd to me.
Is it maybe because each and every fetus... until the actual birth... COULD be the new Savior?
That's just a wild guess/theory. I really would like to know the answer, if anybody knows. Email would be great, in case I lose track of the thread.
It doesn't have to be a GOOD reason. I just really want to know why. Seriously.
Because if the anti-abortion voters break off and form a third party, the GOP would never be a majority party again.
Because if the anti-abortion voters break off and form a third party, the GOP would never be a majority party again.
I sent a nice note to the Governor. Thanks for the heads up, Atrios.
Love the kitties, John. I like the fighters in the Japanese studio.
I sent a nice note to the Governor. Thanks for the heads up, Atrios.
Love the kitties, John. I like the fighters in the Japanese studio.
Lauren Rainey is just trying to humiliate the State of Alabama. She hates us because we're free.
Lauren Rainey is just trying to humiliate the State of Alabama. She hates us because we're free.
You don't count unless you're a fetus or a stem cell.
Bush cares more about turkeys than he does children, apparently.
You don't count unless you're a fetus or a stem cell.
Bush cares more about turkeys than he does children, apparently.
if the anti-abortion voters break off and form a third party,
I wish those people would form their own country someplace else....or better yet, their own planet.
if the anti-abortion voters break off and form a third party,
I wish those people would form their own country someplace else....or better yet, their own planet.
Here's a letter I sent to the guvner of Alabama:
Why is Alabama trying to kill Lauren Rainey? As a Texan, I am conflicted about this case. Recently, the Texas Legeslature voted to cut CHIPS, the child healthcare program. If y'all in Alabama kill this little girl just for budgetary reasons, then what we did in Texas on CHIPS isn't the worst of the worst. On the other hand, we are talking about a little girl's life. Damn.
Here's a letter I sent to the guvner of Alabama:
Why is Alabama trying to kill Lauren Rainey? As a Texan, I am conflicted about this case. Recently, the Texas Legeslature voted to cut CHIPS, the child healthcare program. If y'all in Alabama kill this little girl just for budgetary reasons, then what we did in Texas on CHIPS isn't the worst of the worst. On the other hand, we are talking about a little girl's life. Damn.
Just FWIW, my email to the guv:
"Re: Lauren Rainey
"You have been quoted as saying all the publicity surrounding her case has done is to 'frighten a child' and impugn the state's responsiveness because there are 'a variety of different programs.' So far, no program that would serve to substitute for the care she is losing has been specified.
"You should either name such programs and show how they will serve her case or admit there aren't any and maintain her current care.
"As a fellow American, I'm sure you appreciate the value of straight talk, so I put it to you: Put up or shut up."
Just FWIW, my email to the guv:
"Re: Lauren Rainey
"You have been quoted as saying all the publicity surrounding her case has done is to 'frighten a child' and impugn the state's responsiveness because there are 'a variety of different programs.' So far, no program that would serve to substitute for the care she is losing has been specified.
"You should either name such programs and show how they will serve her case or admit there aren't any and maintain her current care.
"As a fellow American, I'm sure you appreciate the value of straight talk, so I put it to you: Put up or shut up."
The people of Alabama recently voted NOT to reform the state tax system so that rich people would pay more, poor people less, and needed revenue would be generated for vital social programs. The (Republican) governor actually proposed the plan, and the people of Alabama, including the poor, voted against it.
Without taxes, you can't pay for programs. Blame the people of Alabama, not necessarily the governor.
The people of Alabama recently voted NOT to reform the state tax system so that rich people would pay more, poor people less, and needed revenue would be generated for vital social programs. The (Republican) governor actually proposed the plan, and the people of Alabama, including the poor, voted against it.
Without taxes, you can't pay for programs. Blame the people of Alabama, not necessarily the governor.
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