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No fucking way! What will they think of next?
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No fucking way! What will they think of next?
Vicki Stein |
11.19.04 - 4:39 pm | #
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But, but, the erotoxins contaminate our precious bodily fluids!
robbo |
11.19.04 - 4:39 pm | #
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But, but, the erotoxins contaminate our precious bodily fluids!
robbo |
11.19.04 - 4:39 pm | #
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Good, because I'm much happier as a member of the party of immorality. 
Holden Caulfield |
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11.19.04 - 4:40 pm | #
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Good, because I'm much happier as a member of the party of immorality. 
Holden Caulfield |
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11.19.04 - 4:40 pm | #
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*whew* just in time for Friday! (she says, removing her chastity belt)
Nieves |
11.19.04 - 4:41 pm | #
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*whew* just in time for Friday! (she says, removing her chastity belt)
Nieves |
11.19.04 - 4:41 pm | #
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Holden, we're members of the immoral majority.
Vicki Stein |
11.19.04 - 4:42 pm | #
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Holden, we're members of the immoral majority.
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11.19.04 - 4:42 pm | #
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No, eroTOtoxins.
Jerry |
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No, eroTOtoxins.
Jerry |
11.19.04 - 4:43 pm | #
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. . . I am a man trained in the ways of science. Wanna see my duck float, just like a witch?
Jerry |
11.19.04 - 4:44 pm | #
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. . . I am a man trained in the ways of science. Wanna see my duck float, just like a witch?
Jerry |
11.19.04 - 4:44 pm | #
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Oh yes.. and sponsored by McDonald's and the Lighted Candle Society.
A 501(c)3.
Jeebus indeed.
This has to be the stupidest fucking thing I ever heard of.
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11.19.04 - 4:44 pm | #
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Oh yes.. and sponsored by McDonald's and the Lighted Candle Society.
A 501(c)3.
Jeebus indeed.
This has to be the stupidest fucking thing I ever heard of.
Barndog |
11.19.04 - 4:44 pm | #
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Hell yeah, Vicki. Hedonists unite!
Holden Caulfield |
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11.19.04 - 4:44 pm | #
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Hell yeah, Vicki. Hedonists unite!
Holden Caulfield |
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11.19.04 - 4:44 pm | #
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Um, it might be the fulcrum around which they can leverage censoring the internet. It's worth laughing at, but it's worth watching too.
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11.19.04 - 4:46 pm | #
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Um, it might be the fulcrum around which they can leverage censoring the internet. It's worth laughing at, but it's worth watching too.
northsylvania |
11.19.04 - 4:46 pm | #
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OT: Order now your own Bush Turkey Dinner Action Figure.
You Know What the Stuffing Is
cheney_usa |
11.19.04 - 4:46 pm | #
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OT: Order now your own Bush Turkey Dinner Action Figure.
You Know What the Stuffing Is
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11.19.04 - 4:46 pm | #
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Oh my God, this means that when I was a teenager, I was an opioid addict. Big time! And I didn't need any porn at all, just the underwear section of the Sears catalog.
Oh, those insidious erotoxins. How will our children survive?
cosmic grappler |
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11.19.04 - 4:47 pm | #
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Oh my God, this means that when I was a teenager, I was an opioid addict. Big time! And I didn't need any porn at all, just the underwear section of the Sears catalog.
Oh, those insidious erotoxins. How will our children survive?
cosmic grappler |
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11.19.04 - 4:47 pm | #
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Yes.
And a great many Republican operatives are secretly hooked on Androtoxins.
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Grand Moff Texan |
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11.19.04 - 4:48 pm | #
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Yes.
And a great many Republican operatives are secretly hooked on Androtoxins.
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Grand Moff Texan |
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11.19.04 - 4:48 pm | #
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Maybe when my wife plays "scrabble" online again... I'll see if she can create a word for 'a person who supports the slaughter of innocent people in foreign countries, via the world's most powerful military force' -
And one for 'a person who unconditionally supports military intervention without every having served or intending on serving the military' - besides 'chickenhawk'.
I'm sure better ones than 'erototoxins' can be found.
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11.19.04 - 4:48 pm | #
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Maybe when my wife plays "scrabble" online again... I'll see if she can create a word for 'a person who supports the slaughter of innocent people in foreign countries, via the world's most powerful military force' -
And one for 'a person who unconditionally supports military intervention without every having served or intending on serving the military' - besides 'chickenhawk'.
I'm sure better ones than 'erototoxins' can be found.
Barndog |
11.19.04 - 4:48 pm | #
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Can cause blindness, too, I heard.
Jim Madison's Dog |
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Can cause blindness, too, I heard.
Jim Madison's Dog |
11.19.04 - 4:48 pm | #
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Illegal invasions and war crimes: good.
Touching your wee-wee: bad.
Holden Caulfield |
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11.19.04 - 4:50 pm | #
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Illegal invasions and war crimes: good.
Touching your wee-wee: bad.
Holden Caulfield |
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11.19.04 - 4:50 pm | #
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Euro-Toxins
fuckin' French...
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I'm so disgusted by this talk of 'Dems have to become the party of God and morality now'
As if we weren't before. As if waging unnecessary wars and abandoning the poor is inherently moral????
Didn't we learn anything from the campaign that ended just three weeks ago???
We finally ran a genuine war hero, Kerry's medals were supposed to be the silver bullet against the 'soft on defense/hate the military' libel. What's more the GOP candidate was a proven deserter.
Before that it was the DLC business of moving to the right.
This business of trying to fight the GOP on their own turf has got to stop! You don't let your enemy choose the field of battle!!!
renato |
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11.19.04 - 4:50 pm | #
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Euro-Toxins
fuckin' French...
focus |
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I'm so disgusted by this talk of 'Dems have to become the party of God and morality now'
As if we weren't before. As if waging unnecessary wars and abandoning the poor is inherently moral????
Didn't we learn anything from the campaign that ended just three weeks ago???
We finally ran a genuine war hero, Kerry's medals were supposed to be the silver bullet against the 'soft on defense/hate the military' libel. What's more the GOP candidate was a proven deserter.
Before that it was the DLC business of moving to the right.
This business of trying to fight the GOP on their own turf has got to stop! You don't let your enemy choose the field of battle!!!
renato |
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11.19.04 - 4:50 pm | #
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How many times have I said that these people are anti-pleasure, anti-sex, anti-humans-living-in-human-bodies?
Hecate |
11.19.04 - 4:50 pm | #
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How many times have I said that these people are anti-pleasure, anti-sex, anti-humans-living-in-human-bodies?
Hecate |
11.19.04 - 4:50 pm | #
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OT: Bush Squeezing Pat Clinton to Enter Clinton Libary (using Laura's proninciation)
Party Of Politeness
cheney_usa |
11.19.04 - 4:52 pm | #
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OT: Bush Squeezing Pat Clinton to Enter Clinton Libary (using Laura's proninciation)
Party Of Politeness
cheney_usa |
11.19.04 - 4:52 pm | #
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Hecate, I think they came from alien spawn. Pleasure is good. Pleasure makes life worth living.
Vicki Stein |
11.19.04 - 4:53 pm | #
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Hecate, I think they came from alien spawn. Pleasure is good. Pleasure makes life worth living.
Vicki Stein |
11.19.04 - 4:53 pm | #
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These conservatives hate porn because it shatters their illusions that they have the biggest cock on the block.
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11.19.04 - 4:54 pm | #
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These conservatives hate porn because it shatters their illusions that they have the biggest cock on the block.
Dave J. |
11.19.04 - 4:54 pm | #
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The funny thing about the internet, is that it opens your eyes to just how sexually diverse a people we really are. Kinsey only scraped the surface. That being said... Censoring the internet will be about as easy as Democratizing the Middle East with bombs.
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The funny thing about the internet, is that it opens your eyes to just how sexually diverse a people we really are. Kinsey only scraped the surface. That being said... Censoring the internet will be about as easy as Democratizing the Middle East with bombs.
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They don't come from spawn, Vicki.
That box turtle took a dump on a rock somewhere in a polluted river, and the sun hatched it/them.
Why does Santorum have such a connection with box turtles anyway? It only makes sense....
Barndog |
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They don't come from spawn, Vicki.
That box turtle took a dump on a rock somewhere in a polluted river, and the sun hatched it/them.
Why does Santorum have such a connection with box turtles anyway? It only makes sense....
Barndog |
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These conservatives hate porn because it shatters their illusions that they have the biggest cock on the block.
Dave J.
I disagree. Conservatives love porn as much as the next guy, they just love pandering more.
Case in point: our local anit-porn crusader here in Austin, the Rev. Mark Weaver, has the largest porn collection in town.
For research purposes.
One-handed research.
Holden Caulfield |
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11.19.04 - 4:56 pm | #
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These conservatives hate porn because it shatters their illusions that they have the biggest cock on the block.
Dave J.
I disagree. Conservatives love porn as much as the next guy, they just love pandering more.
Case in point: our local anit-porn crusader here in Austin, the Rev. Mark Weaver, has the largest porn collection in town.
For research purposes.
One-handed research.
Holden Caulfield |
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11.19.04 - 4:56 pm | #
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He wears the thickest glasses in town too I bet, right Holden?
Barndog |
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He wears the thickest glasses in town too I bet, right Holden?
Barndog |
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it shatters their illusions that they have the biggest cock on the block.
And that was even after I tried to describe to them what a complete burden it is some times.
Honestly.
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Grand Moff Texan |
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11.19.04 - 4:59 pm | #
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it shatters their illusions that they have the biggest cock on the block.
And that was even after I tried to describe to them what a complete burden it is some times.
Honestly.
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Grand Moff Texan |
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11.19.04 - 4:59 pm | #
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And, Atrios is right. This is a good example of why we'll never win trying to out-Jebuz the fundies. They'll always be willing to out-crazy us on these issues. I like Kerry's idea of winning on things like health care for children much better.
Hecate |
11.19.04 - 4:59 pm | #
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And, Atrios is right. This is a good example of why we'll never win trying to out-Jebuz the fundies. They'll always be willing to out-crazy us on these issues. I like Kerry's idea of winning on things like health care for children much better.
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This is a good example of why we'll never win trying to out-Jebuz the fundies
...There is a reason to try though. To send them even further to the right. Pat Buchanan didn't get a whole bunch of votes in 2000.
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This is a good example of why we'll never win trying to out-Jebuz the fundies
...There is a reason to try though. To send them even further to the right. Pat Buchanan didn't get a whole bunch of votes in 2000.
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He wears the thickest glasses in town too I bet, right Holden?
Barndog
No glasses, but he does sport a beard.
Back in his heyday (about ten years ago) he was arrested more than once for trying to take photographs inside video arcades. Claimed he was trying to document obscene behavior.
Then he dropped out of sight until about a month ago. Should make for interesting times.
Holden Caulfield |
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11.19.04 - 5:01 pm | #
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He wears the thickest glasses in town too I bet, right Holden?
Barndog
No glasses, but he does sport a beard.
Back in his heyday (about ten years ago) he was arrested more than once for trying to take photographs inside video arcades. Claimed he was trying to document obscene behavior.
Then he dropped out of sight until about a month ago. Should make for interesting times.
Holden Caulfield |
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11.19.04 - 5:01 pm | #
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Feh. Get a couple of Zimas in her and Mary Anne Layden will suck the chrome off a trailer hitch.
At least that's what the guys tell me.
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Grand Moff Texan |
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11.19.04 - 5:01 pm | #
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Feh. Get a couple of Zimas in her and Mary Anne Layden will suck the chrome off a trailer hitch.
At least that's what the guys tell me.
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Grand Moff Texan |
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11.19.04 - 5:01 pm | #
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To send them even further to the right. Pat Buchanan didn't get a whole bunch of votes in 2000.
Shit, Pat seems charming and moderate compared to the current crop of fruitcakes.
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To send them even further to the right. Pat Buchanan didn't get a whole bunch of votes in 2000.
Shit, Pat seems charming and moderate compared to the current crop of fruitcakes.
Marcus Wellby |
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Besides, I know that claiming to be 'holier than thou' isn't the path to a higher spiritual plane of existence.
Unlike some others we are aware of.
Barndog |
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Besides, I know that claiming to be 'holier than thou' isn't the path to a higher spiritual plane of existence.
Unlike some others we are aware of.
Barndog |
11.19.04 - 5:02 pm | #
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OT
There was a story in The Financial Times, here in the UK, about a SaudiPrince who has pledged his support to Rupert Murdoch. Prince al-Waleed bin Talal has vowed to block any hostile takeover for News Corp.
Kingdom Holding Company (the Prince's private investment vehicle) has promised to convert it's 3% non voting stake in News Corp, worth about $1 into voting stock and acquire additional shares in the event of a bid.
These Neocons really do love those Saudis...... Now, remind me again, what was the nationality of those 9/11 highjackers?
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OT
There was a story in The Financial Times, here in the UK, about a SaudiPrince who has pledged his support to Rupert Murdoch. Prince al-Waleed bin Talal has vowed to block any hostile takeover for News Corp.
Kingdom Holding Company (the Prince's private investment vehicle) has promised to convert it's 3% non voting stake in News Corp, worth about $1 into voting stock and acquire additional shares in the event of a bid.
These Neocons really do love those Saudis...... Now, remind me again, what was the nationality of those 9/11 highjackers?
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Now, remind me again, what was the nationality of those 9/11 highjackers
French and Iraqi, sally.
Marcus Wellby |
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Now, remind me again, what was the nationality of those 9/11 highjackers
French and Iraqi, sally.
Marcus Wellby |
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Anyone have a clue about getting rid of this five o'clock shadow on my palms?
I am also finding it increasingly difficult to see the monitor. hmmmmmmm
I hope that that is the OK button.
kent |
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11.19.04 - 5:04 pm | #
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Anyone have a clue about getting rid of this five o'clock shadow on my palms?
I am also finding it increasingly difficult to see the monitor. hmmmmmmm
I hope that that is the OK button.
kent |
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11.19.04 - 5:04 pm | #
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The Afghan poppy harvest is at an all time high(pun intended),but you cant sell Bushco heroin to a bunch of wankers.
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The Afghan poppy harvest is at an all time high(pun intended),but you cant sell Bushco heroin to a bunch of wankers.
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sally:
Freepers were going 'Scanners' a few years back when Murdoch Jr. went to China to fawn all over the communists, telling them how mean America had been to them.
That kind of person will kneel for anyone who can afford the price of emission.
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Grand Moff Texan |
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11.19.04 - 5:06 pm | #
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sally:
Freepers were going 'Scanners' a few years back when Murdoch Jr. went to China to fawn all over the communists, telling them how mean America had been to them.
That kind of person will kneel for anyone who can afford the price of emission.
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Grand Moff Texan |
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11.19.04 - 5:06 pm | #
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For research purposes.
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
kent |
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11.19.04 - 5:06 pm | #
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For research purposes.
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
kent |
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11.19.04 - 5:06 pm | #
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French and Iraqi, sally.
I'd mark the spot where your ass is, but it's hard to tell when you're all ass.
Barndog |
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French and Iraqi, sally.
I'd mark the spot where your ass is, but it's hard to tell when you're all ass.
Barndog |
11.19.04 - 5:06 pm | #
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Well, I think we should all be very, very concerned by the dire threat of erototoxins. They're almost as bad as Kryptonite and Adamantium!
Scooter |
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11.19.04 - 5:08 pm | #
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How long until the fornication laws are enacted? Fornication Under Consent of King bush!
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Well, I think we should all be very, very concerned by the dire threat of erototoxins. They're almost as bad as Kryptonite and Adamantium!
Scooter |
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11.19.04 - 5:08 pm | #
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How long until the fornication laws are enacted? Fornication Under Consent of King bush!
peter panic |
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WOW.
God, I hate those tax and spend liberals.
bdub |
11.19.04 - 5:09 pm | #
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WOW.
God, I hate those tax and spend liberals.
bdub |
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I remember a time when Republicans weren't obsessively sticking their noses into everyone else's pants.
Seraphiel |
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11.19.04 - 5:10 pm | #
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I remember a time when Republicans weren't obsessively sticking their noses into everyone else's pants.
Seraphiel |
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11.19.04 - 5:10 pm | #
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a word for 'a person who supports the slaughter of innocent people in foreign countries, via the world's most powerful military force'
Thanoto-eroto-fascisti?
Fucktards?
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11.19.04 - 5:11 pm | #
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a word for 'a person who supports the slaughter of innocent people in foreign countries, via the world's most powerful military force'
Thanoto-eroto-fascisti?
Fucktards?
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Yeah, I heard that Bush spent the day at the Clinton library making sure he was one step ahead of Clinton. Pretty pathetic, isn't it? He obviously has a case of wee-wee comparison. His must be very small indeed.
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11.19.04 - 5:12 pm | #
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Yeah, I heard that Bush spent the day at the Clinton library making sure he was one step ahead of Clinton. Pretty pathetic, isn't it? He obviously has a case of wee-wee comparison. His must be very small indeed.
dissenter |
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11.19.04 - 5:12 pm | #
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I knew they were ramping this up as soon as I saw the first "PORN" addiction ad on Comedy Central from the AFA.
Remember "..if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out?" Like to suggest that all the wingers bugged out by Kinsey and internet porn (which, BTW, fueled the e-commerce boom) immediately apply a meat cleaver or sewing thread to the offending organ. Sure would help the problem in the long run.
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I knew they were ramping this up as soon as I saw the first "PORN" addiction ad on Comedy Central from the AFA.
Remember "..if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out?" Like to suggest that all the wingers bugged out by Kinsey and internet porn (which, BTW, fueled the e-commerce boom) immediately apply a meat cleaver or sewing thread to the offending organ. Sure would help the problem in the long run.
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Fielding Mellish |
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Here we go, do-de-do
The drumbeats of war begin anew.
*sigh*
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Here we go, do-de-do
The drumbeats of war begin anew.
*sigh*
cls |
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Lemme go fire up the woodstove out in the shop and sit there for a few hours.
They can shove their noses in my pants all they want afterwards.
I'm sure it will be a pleasant experience fumunda there.
Barndog |
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Lemme go fire up the woodstove out in the shop and sit there for a few hours.
They can shove their noses in my pants all they want afterwards.
I'm sure it will be a pleasant experience fumunda there.
Barndog |
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Democrats have to become the party of principled modernity, as apposed to academic modernity. This porn crusade isn't going to cut it anywhere red or blue. To many conservatives like their porn too much.
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Democrats have to become the party of principled modernity, as apposed to academic modernity. This porn crusade isn't going to cut it anywhere red or blue. To many conservatives like their porn too much.
Ragdrazi |
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I don't want to be part of a revolution I can't dance to.
VAdem |
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I don't want to be part of a revolution I can't dance to.
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I think they are all secret sickos desperate to hide it by shouting against it. Like the horrible killers who help families search for their own victims. Yecchh. I think their upbringings (hellfire & damnation?) ruined them.
Sad.
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I think they are all secret sickos desperate to hide it by shouting against it. Like the horrible killers who help families search for their own victims. Yecchh. I think their upbringings (hellfire & damnation?) ruined them.
Sad.
Proud Liberal in Texas |
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Time to Daily Show's take on these events 19:48 hours and counting. . .
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Time to Daily Show's take on these events 19:48 hours and counting. . .
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Oh good. All we needed to make the Return of the Livig Eighties complete was an exhumed Meese commission.
These people really are dirtyminded fucks, though. I bet they really have tried to reinject their spooge into an artery after whacking off to The Passion of the Christ, just to see if it let 'em see the Promised Land...
Thersites |
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11.19.04 - 5:22 pm | #
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Oh good. All we needed to make the Return of the Livig Eighties complete was an exhumed Meese commission.
These people really are dirtyminded fucks, though. I bet they really have tried to reinject their spooge into an artery after whacking off to The Passion of the Christ, just to see if it let 'em see the Promised Land...
Thersites |
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11.19.04 - 5:22 pm | #
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all your erotoxins are beloing to us.
how come they're not pissed about divorce?
antichimp |
11.19.04 - 5:23 pm | #
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all your erotoxins are beloing to us.
how come they're not pissed about divorce?
antichimp |
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Now wait just a dogone minute. Did I or did I not hear recently that male masturbation helped prevent prostrate cancer? Or, was this just a trial ballon for a new Bush middle class healthcare initiative?
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Now wait just a dogone minute. Did I or did I not hear recently that male masturbation helped prevent prostrate cancer? Or, was this just a trial ballon for a new Bush middle class healthcare initiative?
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I remember a time when Republicans weren't obsessively sticking their noses into everyone else's pants.
When was that? No snark intended; serious question.
Thersites |
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11.19.04 - 5:25 pm | #
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I remember a time when Republicans weren't obsessively sticking their noses into everyone else's pants.
When was that? No snark intended; serious question.
Thersites |
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11.19.04 - 5:25 pm | #
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Divorce. . . might be next. The world is their Victorian Era flavored candy store. . .
Ragdrazi |
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Divorce. . . might be next. The world is their Victorian Era flavored candy store. . .
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When was that? No snark intended; serious question.
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I believe it was before they hitched their wagons to the Immoral Majority.
back when there primary concerns were a strong defence and ridding the government of social programs. Not to say that they have not taken any opportunity in the past to threaten to legislate morality when politically expedient.
You can't have the darkies, seducing the daughters of purity after all.
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When was that? No snark intended; serious question.
Thersites
I believe it was before they hitched their wagons to the Immoral Majority.
back when there primary concerns were a strong defence and ridding the government of social programs. Not to say that they have not taken any opportunity in the past to threaten to legislate morality when politically expedient.
You can't have the darkies, seducing the daughters of purity after all.
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And 30 days from now there will be 1000 garage bands named the "Erotoxins".
Anyone grabed the URL for this yet?
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And 30 days from now there will be 1000 garage bands named the "Erotoxins".
Anyone grabed the URL for this yet?
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You know, if I want to hear about the latest in porn, all I have to do is tune into the rethug noise machine.
They're always up on the latest.
I've never seen a more wacko, sex-obsessed fools in my life.
Unfuckingbelievable.
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You know, if I want to hear about the latest in porn, all I have to do is tune into the rethug noise machine.
They're always up on the latest.
I've never seen a more wacko, sex-obsessed fools in my life.
Unfuckingbelievable.
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When was that? No snark intended; serious question.
Thersites
Barry Goldwater. During the Reagan/Bush years, gave an interview deploring the fact that the folks in power were so bent out of shape about homosexuality, because a real conservative doesn't want a government that pokes its nose into bedrooms.
Old Barry was kind of an idiot, but at least he was consistent, unlike the "neo-cons."
Neo-con: short for "person who believes in a bunch of shit that possesses no internal consistency whatsoever. See also: moron"
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When was that? No snark intended; serious question.
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Barry Goldwater. During the Reagan/Bush years, gave an interview deploring the fact that the folks in power were so bent out of shape about homosexuality, because a real conservative doesn't want a government that pokes its nose into bedrooms.
Old Barry was kind of an idiot, but at least he was consistent, unlike the "neo-cons."
Neo-con: short for "person who believes in a bunch of shit that possesses no internal consistency whatsoever. See also: moron"
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Excuse me, but when exactly was the word morality co-opted to mean having to do with sex?
The word morality, or moral have nothing whatsoever to do with sex according to definition.
Morality has to do with the rightness or wrongness of a thing. There is nothing in the definition about sex. Nothing.
I think this is perhaps what bothers me the most about the other side. The wholesale redifinition of the English language by people who are opposed to fact-based education, scientific discovery, and basically curiosity of any kind.
Why do we continue to go along with their definitions of things.
I am not a member of the immorality party. I am a member of the morality party, and so are all of you.
And there is also nothing whatsoever in the deifinition of morality that mentions, even in passing, a reference to God or religion.
Again, let us be the proud member of the reality-based community and claim the correct definitions of words.
The "Dominionization" of our vocabulary is disturbing, to say the least, and a sick level of cultural mouthwashing, to say the most.
Am I the only one who feels this way?
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Excuse me, but when exactly was the word morality co-opted to mean having to do with sex?
The word morality, or moral have nothing whatsoever to do with sex according to definition.
Morality has to do with the rightness or wrongness of a thing. There is nothing in the definition about sex. Nothing.
I think this is perhaps what bothers me the most about the other side. The wholesale redifinition of the English language by people who are opposed to fact-based education, scientific discovery, and basically curiosity of any kind.
Why do we continue to go along with their definitions of things.
I am not a member of the immorality party. I am a member of the morality party, and so are all of you.
And there is also nothing whatsoever in the deifinition of morality that mentions, even in passing, a reference to God or religion.
Again, let us be the proud member of the reality-based community and claim the correct definitions of words.
The "Dominionization" of our vocabulary is disturbing, to say the least, and a sick level of cultural mouthwashing, to say the most.
Am I the only one who feels this way?
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Good, because I'm much happier as a member of the party of immorality.
Dude, you should want to go to hell, all the fun people will be there, not to mention all the best kitties. 
Probably some nudibranches as well, for you invertebrate life-form afficionados.
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Good, because I'm much happier as a member of the party of immorality.
Dude, you should want to go to hell, all the fun people will be there, not to mention all the best kitties. 
Probably some nudibranches as well, for you invertebrate life-form afficionados.
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I've never seen a more wacko, sex-obsessed fools in my life.
Talk about your slippery slope.
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I've never seen a more wacko, sex-obsessed fools in my life.
Talk about your slippery slope.
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You know, I wonder if guys like these with their anti-porn ways simply never realized they do need a firewall, a virus scanner and a spyware killer.
Sir the reason you are seeing so much porn on the internet is your machine has been *OWNED*.
And also ask them... how long was it before you killed the power?
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You know, I wonder if guys like these with their anti-porn ways simply never realized they do need a firewall, a virus scanner and a spyware killer.
Sir the reason you are seeing so much porn on the internet is your machine has been *OWNED*.
And also ask them... how long was it before you killed the power?
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I think they are all secret sickos desperate to hide it by shouting against it.
Yep. Puritans and Pornographers are flip sides of the same coin; they need each other to flourish.
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I think they are all secret sickos desperate to hide it by shouting against it.
Yep. Puritans and Pornographers are flip sides of the same coin; they need each other to flourish.
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genoasail, I guess you've missed me bitching about this very issue the past few months.
Sexual morality is the number one thing with them. It starts and stops there.
I really think they all need some therapy.
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genoasail, I guess you've missed me bitching about this very issue the past few months.
Sexual morality is the number one thing with them. It starts and stops there.
I really think they all need some therapy.
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I need a 12-step program. I am hopelessly addicted to Atrios. Can anyone help?
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I need a 12-step program. I am hopelessly addicted to Atrios. Can anyone help?
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Am I the only one who feels this way?
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NOPE, nice summation as well.
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Am I the only one who feels this way?
genoasail
NOPE, nice summation as well.
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Someone's buying all that Internet porn. I wonder who that could be?
Someone needs to do a study on the political affiliation and religious persuasion of porn customers, and while they're at it, child molesters.
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Someone's buying all that Internet porn. I wonder who that could be?
Someone needs to do a study on the political affiliation and religious persuasion of porn customers, and while they're at it, child molesters.
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Jeez, they really want to shut down the Internet, don't they? Scared little sexless beasts. Makes me wonder when they are going to get around to editing Song of Solomon out of the Bible.
Porn isn't bad, unless the porn itself is bad.
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Jeez, they really want to shut down the Internet, don't they? Scared little sexless beasts. Makes me wonder when they are going to get around to editing Song of Solomon out of the Bible.
Porn isn't bad, unless the porn itself is bad.
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it shatters their illusions that they have the biggest cock on the block.
I think they're more worried that it might shatter their wives' illusions that the world's largest penis is four inches long.
Frankly, I find most porn pretty goddamn dull. Pretty girls nekkid, yeah, sure, sign me up. But there's little I find quite as dull as watching two people fuck unless I'm somehow involved in the process beyond mere observation. Which is probably why I'm not a conservative: I can take porn or leave it. Otherwise, I got more interesting things to think on.
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it shatters their illusions that they have the biggest cock on the block.
I think they're more worried that it might shatter their wives' illusions that the world's largest penis is four inches long.
Frankly, I find most porn pretty goddamn dull. Pretty girls nekkid, yeah, sure, sign me up. But there's little I find quite as dull as watching two people fuck unless I'm somehow involved in the process beyond mere observation. Which is probably why I'm not a conservative: I can take porn or leave it. Otherwise, I got more interesting things to think on.
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"but I deny them my essence"
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"but I deny them my essence"
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I said to a friend of mine the other day, to understand the current USA, you have to think of a modern version of our own Victorian Times.
We were then the great superpower who had an Empire. We had Charles Dickens writing about the life of ordinary Brits. We also had a huge amount of religious fundies, trying to ban anything from Drink to dancing.
History will be the the judge, but you be about 100 years behind us. I know that sounds strange, when you look at how powerfull your country has become. But the religios right may have reached it's highest point. We had a religious revial moment at the turn of the 20th century. It did not last very long and faded away.
We need a modern version of Dickens, he could do some great work on the current Republican party. Delay would make a great charcater for a novel.
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I said to a friend of mine the other day, to understand the current USA, you have to think of a modern version of our own Victorian Times.
We were then the great superpower who had an Empire. We had Charles Dickens writing about the life of ordinary Brits. We also had a huge amount of religious fundies, trying to ban anything from Drink to dancing.
History will be the the judge, but you be about 100 years behind us. I know that sounds strange, when you look at how powerfull your country has become. But the religios right may have reached it's highest point. We had a religious revial moment at the turn of the 20th century. It did not last very long and faded away.
We need a modern version of Dickens, he could do some great work on the current Republican party. Delay would make a great charcater for a novel.
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Brownback said porn was ubiquitous now, compared to when he was growing up and some guy would sneak a magazine in somewhere and show some of us, but you had to find him at the right time.
I suppose he would also like everyone to go back to lugging buckets of water from wells.
Gotta go--I'm getting an erototoxin jones just reading about this.
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Brownback said porn was ubiquitous now, compared to when he was growing up and some guy would sneak a magazine in somewhere and show some of us, but you had to find him at the right time.
I suppose he would also like everyone to go back to lugging buckets of water from wells.
Gotta go--I'm getting an erototoxin jones just reading about this.
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The root of it all. They are just so scared shitless of assertive liberal women, absolutely disgusting.
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The root of it all. They are just so scared shitless of assertive liberal women, absolutely disgusting.
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Atrios, when I hit the comments button just now the number of comments was 69. I think that I share in the deep and profound distress that this community feels over your lack of sensitivity to our sexually delicate natures. I believe there may be a law suit and some hot FCC action right around the block for you fella.
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Atrios, when I hit the comments button just now the number of comments was 69. I think that I share in the deep and profound distress that this community feels over your lack of sensitivity to our sexually delicate natures. I believe there may be a law suit and some hot FCC action right around the block for you fella.
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There was a story in The Financial Times, here in the UK, about a SaudiPrince who has pledged his support to Rupert Murdoch. Prince al-Waleed bin Talal has vowed to block any hostile takeover for News Corp.
Kingdom Holding Company (the Prince's private investment vehicle) has promised to convert it's 3% non voting stake in News Corp, worth about $1 into voting stock and acquire additional shares in the event of a bid.
Two questions:
1) I assume there is something missing after the "$1" like, maybe, "billion".
2) Isn't Kingdom Holding Company not really Prince Waleed's private toy (though he heads it up), but a major investment vehicle for the Saudi royal family generally?
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There was a story in The Financial Times, here in the UK, about a SaudiPrince who has pledged his support to Rupert Murdoch. Prince al-Waleed bin Talal has vowed to block any hostile takeover for News Corp.
Kingdom Holding Company (the Prince's private investment vehicle) has promised to convert it's 3% non voting stake in News Corp, worth about $1 into voting stock and acquire additional shares in the event of a bid.
Two questions:
1) I assume there is something missing after the "$1" like, maybe, "billion".
2) Isn't Kingdom Holding Company not really Prince Waleed's private toy (though he heads it up), but a major investment vehicle for the Saudi royal family generally?
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These assholes will hang themselves. The harder they push this morality shit the quicker it will bite them in the ass. Everybody has skeletons in their closets.
Ask Henry Hyde, Bob Livingston, Bill Bennett,Dick Nixon,Spiro Agnew,Jimmy Swaggart,Jim Baker bla bla bla.
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These assholes will hang themselves. The harder they push this morality shit the quicker it will bite them in the ass. Everybody has skeletons in their closets.
Ask Henry Hyde, Bob Livingston, Bill Bennett,Dick Nixon,Spiro Agnew,Jimmy Swaggart,Jim Baker bla bla bla.
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Erototoxins appears exactly four times in a google search. Nothing like made up words.
"Me fail English? That's unpossible!"
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Erototoxins appears exactly four times in a google search. Nothing like made up words.
"Me fail English? That's unpossible!"
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Sort of relevant:
You should read Terry Southern's
novel "Blue Movie." It's about a
director (patterned after Stanley
Kubrick) who decides to make the
first big budget A-list star porn
film. THe book ends when, while they're
they're filming an orgy scene, a
SWAT team from the Vatican breaks in
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Sort of relevant:
You should read Terry Southern's
novel "Blue Movie." It's about a
director (patterned after Stanley
Kubrick) who decides to make the
first big budget A-list star porn
film. THe book ends when, while they're
they're filming an orgy scene, a
SWAT team from the Vatican breaks in
and confiscates the negative.
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I need a 12-step program. I am hopelessly addicted to Atrios.
Beck, I'll join you in setting up a meeting of Eschatonians Anonymous just as soon as I finish reading all the comments on the last few posts...
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I need a 12-step program. I am hopelessly addicted to Atrios.
Beck, I'll join you in setting up a meeting of Eschatonians Anonymous just as soon as I finish reading all the comments on the last few posts...
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You should read Terry Southern's
novel "Blue Movie."
Truly an overlooked classic. And pretty steamy, too!
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You should read Terry Southern's
novel "Blue Movie."
Truly an overlooked classic. And pretty steamy, too!
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And damn Kerry for releasing lesbo-toxins during the debate!
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And damn Kerry for releasing lesbo-toxins during the debate!
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The root of it all. They are just so scared shitless of assertive liberal women, absolutely disgusting.
They're afraid of the joy a good orgasm brings, and how it might distract them from being afraid of God, Jesus, Negros, Gays and "them."
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The root of it all. They are just so scared shitless of assertive liberal women, absolutely disgusting.
They're afraid of the joy a good orgasm brings, and how it might distract them from being afraid of God, Jesus, Negros, Gays and "them."
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And furthermore..."erototoxins". These nitwits are saying that getting turned on - a natural biological reaction to stimuli that helps in continuing the fucking species - is "bad for you". Man, I came across a sexuality book from the '60s my mom had way back when I was first beginning to feel the budding sprouts of young manhood, if you know what I mean and I think you do. First time I had a nocturnal emission following that, I was scared shitless.
Ahhh, the resurgence of the blue-nose busybody: "My life is miserable and I don't enjoy one single minute of it, so why should you?" Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna smoke some more pot, listen to some more of the groovy-cool Hi Records: The Early Years collection I got yesterday - full of that evil rock & roll - and, what the hell, look at some nekkid women.
I can feel the erototoxins coursing through my veins already. One might say they're "throbbing".
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And furthermore..."erototoxins". These nitwits are saying that getting turned on - a natural biological reaction to stimuli that helps in continuing the fucking species - is "bad for you". Man, I came across a sexuality book from the '60s my mom had way back when I was first beginning to feel the budding sprouts of young manhood, if you know what I mean and I think you do. First time I had a nocturnal emission following that, I was scared shitless.
Ahhh, the resurgence of the blue-nose busybody: "My life is miserable and I don't enjoy one single minute of it, so why should you?" Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna smoke some more pot, listen to some more of the groovy-cool Hi Records: The Early Years collection I got yesterday - full of that evil rock & roll - and, what the hell, look at some nekkid women.
I can feel the erototoxins coursing through my veins already. One might say they're "throbbing".
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NEW ORLEANS (AP) - Republican governors wrapped up a low-key, two-day conference Friday listening to Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge laud the benefits of federal-state cooperation.
But the real star of the show slipped in and out of the meeting at a New Orleans hotel unannounced, without talking to reporters: top White House political strategist Karl Rove.
The architect of President Bush's re-election addressed the governors at a closed dinner Thursday night, providing a detailed, statistical explanation about how Bush won, according to some who were there, including Missouri Gov.-elect Matt Blunt and Ohio Gov. Bob Taft.
Some who attended said that Rove emphasized Bush's increased margins among distinct segments of the electorate - Hispanics, women, evangelicals and others - and a major theme was how the added majorities justified the president's claim of having received a mandate from the voters.
Ridge talked about security measures under way in his department, and told the governors that even more money was available for homeland security efforts than they were perhaps aware of.
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NEW ORLEANS (AP) - Republican governors wrapped up a low-key, two-day conference Friday listening to Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge laud the benefits of federal-state cooperation.
But the real star of the show slipped in and out of the meeting at a New Orleans hotel unannounced, without talking to reporters: top White House political strategist Karl Rove.
The architect of President Bush's re-election addressed the governors at a closed dinner Thursday night, providing a detailed, statistical explanation about how Bush won, according to some who were there, including Missouri Gov.-elect Matt Blunt and Ohio Gov. Bob Taft.
Some who attended said that Rove emphasized Bush's increased margins among distinct segments of the electorate - Hispanics, women, evangelicals and others - and a major theme was how the added majorities justified the president's claim of having received a mandate from the voters.
Ridge talked about security measures under way in his department, and told the governors that even more money was available for homeland security efforts than they were perhaps aware of.
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steve- If I'm not mistaken, Eyes Wide Shut was supposed to be that very movie. I've never read Southern's book, but Robert Anton Wilson parodies it somewhat in Schrodinger's Cat as well.
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steve- If I'm not mistaken, Eyes Wide Shut was supposed to be that very movie. I've never read Southern's book, but Robert Anton Wilson parodies it somewhat in Schrodinger's Cat as well.
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if I want to hear about the latest in porn, all I have to do is tune into the rethug noise machine. They're always up on the latest.
It's been like that for time immemorial. When I was a kid (during the early to mid-60s), my parents would make similar jokes about blue-nosed right-wing birchers underlining the naughty passages in red in paperback books by Harold Robbins and his ilk.
They were scorned and laughed at then, and we should do the same thing now.
And yeah, this whole MNF load of bullshit is "Mandingo" envy in its purest form.
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if I want to hear about the latest in porn, all I have to do is tune into the rethug noise machine. They're always up on the latest.
It's been like that for time immemorial. When I was a kid (during the early to mid-60s), my parents would make similar jokes about blue-nosed right-wing birchers underlining the naughty passages in red in paperback books by Harold Robbins and his ilk.
They were scorned and laughed at then, and we should do the same thing now.
And yeah, this whole MNF load of bullshit is "Mandingo" envy in its purest form.
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Please tell me how we are supposed to find common ground with folks who roll around in rapturous ecstacies at the sound of a bloody, murderous flogging; who cream themselves at the thought of divine crucifixion, but fear the wet thwap of fucking and the groans of genital pleasure...
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Please tell me how we are supposed to find common ground with folks who roll around in rapturous ecstacies at the sound of a bloody, murderous flogging; who cream themselves at the thought of divine crucifixion, but fear the wet thwap of fucking and the groans of genital pleasure...
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And yeah, this whole MNF load of bullshit is "Mandingo" envy in its purest form.
No shit. Terrell Owens, you lucky bastard.
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And yeah, this whole MNF load of bullshit is "Mandingo" envy in its purest form.
No shit. Terrell Owens, you lucky bastard.
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Truly an overlooked classic. And pretty steamy, too!
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Best straight guy gets a blowjob from
a gorgeous lesbian sex scene ever.
What ever you do, don't let Howard
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Truly an overlooked classic. And pretty steamy, too!
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Best straight guy gets a blowjob from
a gorgeous lesbian sex scene ever.
What ever you do, don't let Howard
Stern know.
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I have been using the internets extensively for 10 years and have never, repeat, never accidentally come across all that ubiquitous porn that these people are finding. Moreover, I have never had porn dropped into my email. If ya ain't searching for it, folks, ya ain't gonna find it. This sounds like stage 1 attack on the internets to me. And, although they can't control the internet, they can control means of access in this country. Yup. We've got to keep an eye on this.
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I have been using the internets extensively for 10 years and have never, repeat, never accidentally come across all that ubiquitous porn that these people are finding. Moreover, I have never had porn dropped into my email. If ya ain't searching for it, folks, ya ain't gonna find it. This sounds like stage 1 attack on the internets to me. And, although they can't control the internet, they can control means of access in this country. Yup. We've got to keep an eye on this.
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C'mon, this is the continuation of the same crap that started on 2 November - the dreaded blogs dispersing wrong information without a license, and not fully loving Dear Leader.
Brownback is, I think, the most fully opportunist son of a bitch I have ever known about. Purely. His next step will doubtless be to insist that the tanks or whatever other materiel is available from Little Korea Army Base be sent in to Lawrence and destroy the infidel there.
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C'mon, this is the continuation of the same crap that started on 2 November - the dreaded blogs dispersing wrong information without a license, and not fully loving Dear Leader.
Brownback is, I think, the most fully opportunist son of a bitch I have ever known about. Purely. His next step will doubtless be to insist that the tanks or whatever other materiel is available from Little Korea Army Base be sent in to Lawrence and destroy the infidel there.
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"I really think they all need some therapy."
I really think they all need to get stoned and laid right!
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"I really think they all need some therapy."
I really think they all need to get stoned and laid right!
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Gives a whole new meaning to the term:
"fundie whackjobs"
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Gives a whole new meaning to the term:
"fundie whackjobs"
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Eyes Wide Shut was supposed to be that very movie.
If so, he missed the mark badly. "Blue Movie" was not only out-and-out porn, it was funny as hell.
I think it gets talked about being made into a film at the time it came out in a Southern biography, but can't remember who was supposedly pushing it...
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Eyes Wide Shut was supposed to be that very movie.
If so, he missed the mark badly. "Blue Movie" was not only out-and-out porn, it was funny as hell.
I think it gets talked about being made into a film at the time it came out in a Southern biography, but can't remember who was supposedly pushing it...
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I think it gets talked about being made into a film at the time it came out in a
Southern biography, but can't remember who was supposedly pushing it...
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I think I heard that too.
Is there a good Southern bio, BTW?bb
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I think it gets talked about being made into a film at the time it came out in a
Southern biography, but can't remember who was supposedly pushing it...
dave | Email | Homepage | 11.19.04 - 5:51 pm | #
I think I heard that too.
Is there a good Southern bio, BTW?bb
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The same whack-jobs are going after Garrison Keillor for having poked gentle fun at born-agains in the post-election Prairie Home Companion.
It might not hurt to send a little love the way of Land's End, who sponsor the show.
Click on "Homepage" to see the email I sent.
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The same whack-jobs are going after Garrison Keillor for having poked gentle fun at born-agains in the post-election Prairie Home Companion.
It might not hurt to send a little love the way of Land's End, who sponsor the show.
Click on "Homepage" to see the email I sent.
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I've found a new chemical substance! This compound, which is named "stupotoxin," is released into the body when exposed to ads from the American Family Association.
Rationality-based individuals may experience nausea and a sense of disbelief and worry for the country's future.
On the other hand, if the natural reality-based defenses of the body are overwhelmed by stupotoxin, one may experience the overwhelming desire to vote Republican and troll the comments section at Eschaton.
Won't you help me fight stupotoxins in our lifetime? Call 1-800-Prudes-Are-Idiots today!
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I've found a new chemical substance! This compound, which is named "stupotoxin," is released into the body when exposed to ads from the American Family Association.
Rationality-based individuals may experience nausea and a sense of disbelief and worry for the country's future.
On the other hand, if the natural reality-based defenses of the body are overwhelmed by stupotoxin, one may experience the overwhelming desire to vote Republican and troll the comments section at Eschaton.
Won't you help me fight stupotoxins in our lifetime? Call 1-800-Prudes-Are-Idiots today!
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I really think they all need to get stoned and laid right!
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And some good rock & roll, can't leave that out. Someone needs to grab these guys and say, "Look. Here's the Faces boxset. Here's some primo Florida stumble weed. There's your wife. Go have a good time and lighten the fuck up."
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I really think they all need to get stoned and laid right!
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And some good rock & roll, can't leave that out. Someone needs to grab these guys and say, "Look. Here's the Faces boxset. Here's some primo Florida stumble weed. There's your wife. Go have a good time and lighten the fuck up."
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Well, a little Googling came up with this:
During the production (of "Dr. Strangelove"), Stanley Kubrick and Southern found themselves watching a porn film that had fallen into their hands. It provided the inspiration for Blue Movie, as Kubrick pondered over the idea of a porn film born of the hand and eye of an auteur, using beautiful people and state-of-the-art equipment.
"Pornography had a comic oddness about it that fascinated Terry," says Jonathan Miller. "I remember he showed me this shakily shot Cuban porn film - those grainy images of men and women in glasses and socks screwing each other in Havana in 1932."
Since the success of Candy, the FBI had put Southern under surveillance, believing, incorrectly, that he harboured a stash of porn films. "Congratulations, you've written the definitive blow-job," Kubrick told Southern after reading Blue Movie.
Published as the Seventies waved off the Sixties, the book could be Terry Southern's The Last Tycoon. Unlike Fitzgerald's unfinished novel, Blue Movie is a summary of the Hollywood and decadence not of the Thirties but of the Sixties, and perhaps a goodbye to all that, too. It's another example of how the best satire and parody succeed by sleight of hand rather than the heavy-handedness that now characterises these genres on page and screen. "Terry had the ability to maintain believability," says Nile, "but still go far with the most outrageous things."
A wittier and smarter take on Hollywood movies and moreso than that of Ben Elton's omnipresent Popcorn three decades later, Blue Movie turns the spotlight on King B, an Oscar-winning director determined to shoot the most expensive and X-rated movie ever made. The director discusses the prospect of the nubile Princess Anne for a lesbian love scene.
It was Terry Southern's chance to kick against the pricks that he had encountered during his Hollywood stint. He rarely ate lunch in that town again.
Oh, and here's Steve's blowjob scene.
Personally, I like the lesbian scene where the director has it all set-up for the express purpose of catching the glint of light off his actress' glistening clitoris... but that's just me!
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Well, a little Googling came up with this:
During the production (of "Dr. Strangelove"), Stanley Kubrick and Southern found themselves watching a porn film that had fallen into their hands. It provided the inspiration for Blue Movie, as Kubrick pondered over the idea of a porn film born of the hand and eye of an auteur, using beautiful people and state-of-the-art equipment.
"Pornography had a comic oddness about it that fascinated Terry," says Jonathan Miller. "I remember he showed me this shakily shot Cuban porn film - those grainy images of men and women in glasses and socks screwing each other in Havana in 1932."
Since the success of Candy, the FBI had put Southern under surveillance, believing, incorrectly, that he harboured a stash of porn films. "Congratulations, you've written the definitive blow-job," Kubrick told Southern after reading Blue Movie.
Published as the Seventies waved off the Sixties, the book could be Terry Southern's The Last Tycoon. Unlike Fitzgerald's unfinished novel, Blue Movie is a summary of the Hollywood and decadence not of the Thirties but of the Sixties, and perhaps a goodbye to all that, too. It's another example of how the best satire and parody succeed by sleight of hand rather than the heavy-handedness that now characterises these genres on page and screen. "Terry had the ability to maintain believability," says Nile, "but still go far with the most outrageous things."
A wittier and smarter take on Hollywood movies and moreso than that of Ben Elton's omnipresent Popcorn three decades later, Blue Movie turns the spotlight on King B, an Oscar-winning director determined to shoot the most expensive and X-rated movie ever made. The director discusses the prospect of the nubile Princess Anne for a lesbian love scene.
It was Terry Southern's chance to kick against the pricks that he had encountered during his Hollywood stint. He rarely ate lunch in that town again.
Oh, and here's Steve's blowjob scene.
Personally, I like the lesbian scene where the director has it all set-up for the express purpose of catching the glint of light off his actress' glistening clitoris... but that's just me!
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I can't believe someone would get so upset over a pair of boobies.
apologies to w00t
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I can't believe someone would get so upset over a pair of boobies.
apologies to w00t
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I think there is a basic brain wiring difference between the right and left.
The left read Kinsey and thinks 'I always suspected as much' the right thinks 'we've got to put a stop to this'
The left reads Orwell and looks in shock and horror at the current state of affairs, the right reads Orwell smiles and takes notes.
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I think there is a basic brain wiring difference between the right and left.
The left read Kinsey and thinks 'I always suspected as much' the right thinks 'we've got to put a stop to this'
The left reads Orwell and looks in shock and horror at the current state of affairs, the right reads Orwell smiles and takes notes.
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I actually know someone who is in therapy for a serious addiction to porn, among other things. I'm not at all kidding. Not that it came from porn dropping into his inbox or too much access, but still, I thought this shit was silly until I met someone who is really fucked up from it.
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I actually know someone who is in therapy for a serious addiction to porn, among other things. I'm not at all kidding. Not that it came from porn dropping into his inbox or too much access, but still, I thought this shit was silly until I met someone who is really fucked up from it.
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The porn industry is 57 billion worldwide and 12 billion in the U.S.
The U.S. porn revenue exceeds the combined revenues of ABC, CBS, and NBC (6.2 billion). It would be interesting to see a break down of this revenue via Red State / Blue State.
My guess is that the Red State numbers would be significantly larger than the Blue State numbers. Of course, these hypocrits would probably just blame the Red State Democrats, whom they never seem to acknowledge unless out of convenience.
Despite their craziness, moral issues are on our side and we should not concede anything to these lunatics. Mock the devils every chance you get.
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The porn industry is 57 billion worldwide and 12 billion in the U.S.
The U.S. porn revenue exceeds the combined revenues of ABC, CBS, and NBC (6.2 billion). It would be interesting to see a break down of this revenue via Red State / Blue State.
My guess is that the Red State numbers would be significantly larger than the Blue State numbers. Of course, these hypocrits would probably just blame the Red State Democrats, whom they never seem to acknowledge unless out of convenience.
Despite their craziness, moral issues are on our side and we should not concede anything to these lunatics. Mock the devils every chance you get.
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as Kubrick pondered over the idea of a porn film born of the hand and eye of an auteur, using beautiful people and state-of-the-art equipment.
Isn't that basically what Bob Guccioni's Caligula was supposed to be?
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as Kubrick pondered over the idea of a porn film born of the hand and eye of an auteur, using beautiful people and state-of-the-art equipment.
Isn't that basically what Bob Guccioni's Caligula was supposed to be?
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cosmic grapler
I hear Sears catalogs are a gateway drug.
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cosmic grapler
I hear Sears catalogs are a gateway drug.
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I actually know someone who is in therapy for a serious addiction to porn
...I know someone in therapy because her southern Baptist mother ran off with the pastor of her church when she was a teenager.
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I actually know someone who is in therapy for a serious addiction to porn
...I know someone in therapy because her southern Baptist mother ran off with the pastor of her church when she was a teenager.
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mm,
Oh, no one is saying it doesn't happen. People can get addicted to anything. Hell, I know a couple of folks seriously addicted to my beloved weed, and it's not just a case of being an unrepentant stoner (such as myself). But, frankly, what's the difference between porn addiction and someone who's life rises and falls according to the successes of a college football team?
Anytime you let something completely take over your life and let it influence your every decision, it's not a good thing.
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mm,
Oh, no one is saying it doesn't happen. People can get addicted to anything. Hell, I know a couple of folks seriously addicted to my beloved weed, and it's not just a case of being an unrepentant stoner (such as myself). But, frankly, what's the difference between porn addiction and someone who's life rises and falls according to the successes of a college football team?
Anytime you let something completely take over your life and let it influence your every decision, it's not a good thing.
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Isn't that basically what Bob Guccioni's Caligula was supposed to be?
First movie I ever walked out of, first and only x-rated movie I had seen in a theatre. I think it was the gallons of wine the funnell and the knife to the belly that did it for me.
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Isn't that basically what Bob Guccioni's Caligula was supposed to be?
First movie I ever walked out of, first and only x-rated movie I had seen in a theatre. I think it was the gallons of wine the funnell and the knife to the belly that did it for me.
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"I'm so disgusted by this talk of 'Dems have to become the party of God and morality now'"
Everybody knows sex sells. We should have did sexy election ads. We coulda won.
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"I'm so disgusted by this talk of 'Dems have to become the party of God and morality now'"
Everybody knows sex sells. We should have did sexy election ads. We coulda won.
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...I know someone in therapy because her southern Baptist mother ran off with the pastor of her church when she was a teenager.
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Your point?
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...I know someone in therapy because her southern Baptist mother ran off with the pastor of her church when she was a teenager.
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Your point?
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You know, I want to go live somewhere where it's still okay to enjoy sex and to look at nekkid people.
Is that too much to ask for?
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You know, I want to go live somewhere where it's still okay to enjoy sex and to look at nekkid people.
Is that too much to ask for?
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Well, at least we won't get bored watching the circus. Where do they come up with this shit. The very idea is so stupid. This stands as a good example to the people who say dems need to move further to the right to win the presidency. I don't want to go over there, those fundie whackjobs scare the shit out of me.
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Well, at least we won't get bored watching the circus. Where do they come up with this shit. The very idea is so stupid. This stands as a good example to the people who say dems need to move further to the right to win the presidency. I don't want to go over there, those fundie whackjobs scare the shit out of me.
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Unrepentant stoners for Jesus.
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Unrepentant stoners for Jesus.
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Your point
...People are in therapy for all kinds of reasons, that's hardly a reason to ban something. It seems to me some people have an unhealthy addiction to religion. I wouldn't try to ban the Southern Baptists because some of them end up in therapy.
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Your point
...People are in therapy for all kinds of reasons, that's hardly a reason to ban something. It seems to me some people have an unhealthy addiction to religion. I wouldn't try to ban the Southern Baptists because some of them end up in therapy.
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There's something pornographic about the politics of the repukes in how passionate they are about smearing democrats and how they love war. There's political pornography and war pornography. They find it arousing. Ever listen to Dr Laura trash other's behavior but being from very graphic about it? Like, "What are you hun? Just a warm hole to stick it in?" That lets her listeners be outraged, feeling self-righteous, morally superior and yet titillated at the same time. Just like this initiative of theirs to ban pornography lets them discuss something that should be kept basically private but allows them to openly discuss it.
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There's something pornographic about the politics of the repukes in how passionate they are about smearing democrats and how they love war. There's political pornography and war pornography. They find it arousing. Ever listen to Dr Laura trash other's behavior but being from very graphic about it? Like, "What are you hun? Just a warm hole to stick it in?" That lets her listeners be outraged, feeling self-righteous, morally superior and yet titillated at the same time. Just like this initiative of theirs to ban pornography lets them discuss something that should be kept basically private but allows them to openly discuss it.
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[in biker jackets & jeans]
if being addicted to love is wrong, who wants to be right?
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[in biker jackets & jeans]
if being addicted to love is wrong, who wants to be right?
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four legs, come to Chicago.
We loves us the naked around here.
A.
who is having a very weird day
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four legs, come to Chicago.
We loves us the naked around here.
A.
who is having a very weird day
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Is there a good Southern bio, BTW?
This is the only bio I've seen.
BTW, have you checked out terrysouthern.com? They've got some good stuff. Plus, looks like someone just put out a book regarding "Candy."
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Is there a good Southern bio, BTW?
This is the only bio I've seen.
BTW, have you checked out terrysouthern.com? They've got some good stuff. Plus, looks like someone just put out a book regarding "Candy."
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I actually know someone who is in therapy for a serious addiction to porn
Yeah, I've heard of quite a few people in therapy because their businesses failed, their spouses left, or they lost their faith in God.
Time to outlaw capitalism, marriage, and religion.
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I actually know someone who is in therapy for a serious addiction to porn
Yeah, I've heard of quite a few people in therapy because their businesses failed, their spouses left, or they lost their faith in God.
Time to outlaw capitalism, marriage, and religion.
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It seems to me some people have an unhealthy addiction to religion.
Even the way the choose to worship is very passionate with emotional highs and lows. Some of it's almost orgasmic.
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It seems to me some people have an unhealthy addiction to religion.
Even the way the choose to worship is very passionate with emotional highs and lows. Some of it's almost orgasmic.
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You know where they're putting out all kinds of erotoxins, where erotoxin production has actually spread to all thirty-two provinces so that the entire country is now going to be one huge erotoxin plantation? Afghanistan.
No, wait, that's just harmless, nonaddictive old poppies, just heroin and opium. Crisis averted.
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You know where they're putting out all kinds of erotoxins, where erotoxin production has actually spread to all thirty-two provinces so that the entire country is now going to be one huge erotoxin plantation? Afghanistan.
No, wait, that's just harmless, nonaddictive old poppies, just heroin and opium. Crisis averted.
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Sam Bareback should take it easy.
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Sam Bareback should take it easy.
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Didn't we have this discussion back when Hugh Hefner was young?
Everything old is new again....
(aside from the obvious: internet porn? Yeah, like they can control that....)
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Didn't we have this discussion back when Hugh Hefner was young?
Everything old is new again....
(aside from the obvious: internet porn? Yeah, like they can control that....)
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Falstaff: I wasn't at all suggesting that anything should be banned. Of course, people are addicted to all kinds of things. I think my point was that I never really believed people could be addicted to porn in a way that was really disruptive, until I watched somebody that seems otherwise normal go totally in the toilet over it.
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Falstaff: I wasn't at all suggesting that anything should be banned. Of course, people are addicted to all kinds of things. I think my point was that I never really believed people could be addicted to porn in a way that was really disruptive, until I watched somebody that seems otherwise normal go totally in the toilet over it.
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Time to outlaw capitalism, marriage, and religion.
You forgot food. Some people are addicted to food and for a some of these it's life threatening.
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Time to outlaw capitalism, marriage, and religion.
You forgot food. Some people are addicted to food and for a some of these it's life threatening.
SWR |
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must read: mosque raid unfiltered.
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must read: mosque raid unfiltered.
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until I watched somebody that seems otherwise normal go totally in the toilet over it.
...Point taken. I think there are simply addictive people. I know a guy who was drinking too much and living a really unhealthy life until one day he took up bicycling and started riding 50 miles a day. He simply channeled his addiction into something healthy.
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until I watched somebody that seems otherwise normal go totally in the toilet over it.
...Point taken. I think there are simply addictive people. I know a guy who was drinking too much and living a really unhealthy life until one day he took up bicycling and started riding 50 miles a day. He simply channeled his addiction into something healthy.
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Fielding Mellish and Falstaff: a little too defensive. Nothing in my original comment said anything about banning porn. I didn't even come close to suggesting that a ban seemed like a good idea. It was a thought, that's it. Why don't you both relax.
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Fielding Mellish and Falstaff: a little too defensive. Nothing in my original comment said anything about banning porn. I didn't even come close to suggesting that a ban seemed like a good idea. It was a thought, that's it. Why don't you both relax.
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SWR
Forget that, outlaw reality television. It will do civilization more good than the discovery of antibiotics.
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SWR
Forget that, outlaw reality television. It will do civilization more good than the discovery of antibiotics.
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I feel I must point out that this has to be some kind of record. A thread that is still on topic after 133 posts.
A.
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I feel I must point out that this has to be some kind of record. A thread that is still on topic after 133 posts.
A.
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Why don't you both relax.
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If you ban porn, how will I be able to? Damn. Life must suck in Saudi Arabia.
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Why don't you both relax.
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If you ban porn, how will I be able to? Damn. Life must suck in Saudi Arabia.
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To get serious, at the end of Nadine Strossen's excellent and highly recommended Defending Pornography, a feminist panel is talking with a head of a women's shelter, and they keep coming back to giving up on free speech and banning porn. And finally the woman spits back, look, you fuck women economically, you fuck women when they're growing up so they don't think battery is worth note, you fuck women by not giving a damn about crime when it happens to them, you screw women a thousand different ways and you want to get upset about some stupid adolescent dirty pictures? How about if you actually care about women you work to end or severely reduce domestic violence, make reproductive freedom a universal reality so 16-year-olds don't have to worry about having enough money and sneakiness to avoid having to give birth, worry about real things that actually affect people, etc? This is not something that helps women one way or the other. It's a luxury, an ephemeral issue, from the same creeps who want their chicks in burkhas anyway, the same assholes who jump at the chance to slash welfare, education, women's shelters and social work funding, and so on.
(You know what else it is, if we can get past the Job Loserman/Tipper Gore Democrats, is something we can win on.)
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To get serious, at the end of Nadine Strossen's excellent and highly recommended Defending Pornography, a feminist panel is talking with a head of a women's shelter, and they keep coming back to giving up on free speech and banning porn. And finally the woman spits back, look, you fuck women economically, you fuck women when they're growing up so they don't think battery is worth note, you fuck women by not giving a damn about crime when it happens to them, you screw women a thousand different ways and you want to get upset about some stupid adolescent dirty pictures? How about if you actually care about women you work to end or severely reduce domestic violence, make reproductive freedom a universal reality so 16-year-olds don't have to worry about having enough money and sneakiness to avoid having to give birth, worry about real things that actually affect people, etc? This is not something that helps women one way or the other. It's a luxury, an ephemeral issue, from the same creeps who want their chicks in burkhas anyway, the same assholes who jump at the chance to slash welfare, education, women's shelters and social work funding, and so on.
(You know what else it is, if we can get past the Job Loserman/Tipper Gore Democrats, is something we can win on.)
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Woo-hoo. Go Santiago...Chileans riot in anticipation of Bush's arrival. Tens of thousands of people jam the streets of Santiago for the fourth day running protesting the policies of George W. Bush.
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Woo-hoo. Go Santiago...Chileans riot in anticipation of Bush's arrival. Tens of thousands of people jam the streets of Santiago for the fourth day running protesting the policies of George W. Bush.
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Read The Handmaid's Tale for how we will rule over you.
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Read The Handmaid's Tale for how we will rule over you.
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I'll take a sex addict like Clinton any day over a stunted nerf ball like 'former' alkie George W. Bush
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I'll take a sex addict like Clinton any day over a stunted nerf ball like 'former' alkie George W. Bush
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Personally, I can think of no faster way for them to lose the straight white male vote than by going after pornography. Particularly all the redneck boys I know.
Hil-fuckin'-larious, as far as I'm concerned. Go for it, boys... ban porn. The crowds will have torches and pitchforks, I'm telling you.
Americans... you can screw up their economy, get them into stupid wars, whatever... but man, mess up their god-given right to watch ugly people screw (badly) and I think you're in for some nightmare.
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Personally, I can think of no faster way for them to lose the straight white male vote than by going after pornography. Particularly all the redneck boys I know.
Hil-fuckin'-larious, as far as I'm concerned. Go for it, boys... ban porn. The crowds will have torches and pitchforks, I'm telling you.
Americans... you can screw up their economy, get them into stupid wars, whatever... but man, mess up their god-given right to watch ugly people screw (badly) and I think you're in for some nightmare.
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The biggest addiction in this country is crapaddiction.
Quit buying crap.
Go cold turkey.
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The biggest addiction in this country is crapaddiction.
Quit buying crap.
Go cold turkey.
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"Americans... you can screw up their economy, get them into stupid wars, whatever... but man, mess up their god-given right to watch ugly people screw (badly) and I think you're in for some nightmare."
-Spit
You would have thought that Howard Stern would have had a bigger impact this election. Did he?
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"Americans... you can screw up their economy, get them into stupid wars, whatever... but man, mess up their god-given right to watch ugly people screw (badly) and I think you're in for some nightmare."
-Spit
You would have thought that Howard Stern would have had a bigger impact this election. Did he?
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"Pornography addicts have a more difficult time recovering from their addiction than cocaine addicts, since coke users can get the drug out of their system, but pornographic images stay in the brain forever, Layden said."
Utter anti-scientific bullshit. It's not just wrong, it's not just unscientific, it demonstrates a Talib's contempt for modernity and actual scientific reality. These same jerkoffs claim that porn is also subject to tolerance (look at breasts today, molest children tomorrow), so having the same images wouldn't help. And if you could recall exactly everything you'd seen, that would be more like photographic memory, and it would also call into question why anybody ever buys more and new stuff.
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"Pornography addicts have a more difficult time recovering from their addiction than cocaine addicts, since coke users can get the drug out of their system, but pornographic images stay in the brain forever, Layden said."
Utter anti-scientific bullshit. It's not just wrong, it's not just unscientific, it demonstrates a Talib's contempt for modernity and actual scientific reality. These same jerkoffs claim that porn is also subject to tolerance (look at breasts today, molest children tomorrow), so having the same images wouldn't help. And if you could recall exactly everything you'd seen, that would be more like photographic memory, and it would also call into question why anybody ever buys more and new stuff.
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OT:Juan Cole gets it right for once!
'So, the Marines at Fallujah are operating in accordance with a UNSC Resolution and have all the legitimacy in international law that flows from that. The Allawi government asked them to undertake this Fallujah mission.
To compare them to the murderous thugs who kidnapped CARE worker Margaret Hassan, held her hostage, terrified her, and then killed her is frankly monstrous. The multinational forces are soldiers fighting a war in which they are targetting combatants and sometimes accidentally killing innocents. The hostage-takers are terrorists deliberately killing innocents. It is simply not the same thing.'
Amen, Professor Cole!
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OT:Juan Cole gets it right for once!
'So, the Marines at Fallujah are operating in accordance with a UNSC Resolution and have all the legitimacy in international law that flows from that. The Allawi government asked them to undertake this Fallujah mission.
To compare them to the murderous thugs who kidnapped CARE worker Margaret Hassan, held her hostage, terrified her, and then killed her is frankly monstrous. The multinational forces are soldiers fighting a war in which they are targetting combatants and sometimes accidentally killing innocents. The hostage-takers are terrorists deliberately killing innocents. It is simply not the same thing.'
Amen, Professor Cole!
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I'm addicted to this site. Is that a bad thing?
Stop looking at me like that.
Incognito |
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I'm addicted to this site. Is that a bad thing?
Stop looking at me like that.
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pornographic images stay in the brain forever, Layden said."
Isn't pornography just a way to express those images from childhood that have imprinted themselves on the brain?
Or is Freud just passe now?
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pornographic images stay in the brain forever, Layden said."
Isn't pornography just a way to express those images from childhood that have imprinted themselves on the brain?
Or is Freud just passe now?
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And yeah, this whole MNF load of bullshit is "Mandingo" envy in its purest form.
Yep. Had it been Halle Berry leaping into the arms of Ben Roethlisberger, nobody would be saying jack.
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And yeah, this whole MNF load of bullshit is "Mandingo" envy in its purest form.
Yep. Had it been Halle Berry leaping into the arms of Ben Roethlisberger, nobody would be saying jack.
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There are depictions of women you ought to worry about (without any crap about Iranian imitations and censorship)--and they're in Vogue and Cosmo and Seventeen. Last time we checked not many preteen girls subscribe to Playboy.
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There are depictions of women you ought to worry about (without any crap about Iranian imitations and censorship)--and they're in Vogue and Cosmo and Seventeen. Last time we checked not many preteen girls subscribe to Playboy.
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"pornographic images stay in the brain forever, Layden said."
Ha ha. I know what he always thinks about. You really get a clear picture of what these guys fantasize about just by their outlandish statements. Some of the anti-gay vitriol makes me even blush - quite the imagination.
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"pornographic images stay in the brain forever, Layden said."
Ha ha. I know what he always thinks about. You really get a clear picture of what these guys fantasize about just by their outlandish statements. Some of the anti-gay vitriol makes me even blush - quite the imagination.
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Fielding Mellish and Falstaff: a little too defensive... Why don't you both relax.
mm
Sorry, I'm a little on edge these days. Haven't been getting enough erototoxins.
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Fielding Mellish and Falstaff: a little too defensive... Why don't you both relax.
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Sorry, I'm a little on edge these days. Haven't been getting enough erototoxins.
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erototoxins: The new WMD, but what you really have to watch out for are the homoerototoxins.
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erototoxins: The new WMD, but what you really have to watch out for are the homoerototoxins.
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Yep. Had it been Halle Berry leaping into the arms of Ben Roethlisberger, nobody would be saying jack.
Or if Nicolette Sheridan had lept in to Jeremy Shockey's or Vinnie Testeverde's arms instead.
It's amazing how the Southern obsession with racial purity and the southern/red state obsession with moral purity work hand in hand.
And yes, I know it was Michael Powell who threw the hissy fit. Doesn't matter. He knows what his side wants.
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Yep. Had it been Halle Berry leaping into the arms of Ben Roethlisberger, nobody would be saying jack.
Or if Nicolette Sheridan had lept in to Jeremy Shockey's or Vinnie Testeverde's arms instead.
It's amazing how the Southern obsession with racial purity and the southern/red state obsession with moral purity work hand in hand.
And yes, I know it was Michael Powell who threw the hissy fit. Doesn't matter. He knows what his side wants.
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The terrorists are an inefficient (because vastly poorer) Air Force. They both bomb civilian areas and hold up gambled, rarely won trophies as proof they're accomplishing anything but murder.
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The terrorists are an inefficient (because vastly poorer) Air Force. They both bomb civilian areas and hold up gambled, rarely won trophies as proof they're accomplishing anything but murder.
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Haven't been getting enough erototoxins.
You can never got enough erotoxins.
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Haven't been getting enough erototoxins.
You can never got enough erotoxins.
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BTW, speaking of pornography, why precisely isn't most of the tabloid fodder that the rubes in the red states gulp down considered porn?
Laci Peterson? The Olsen Twins?
Comeon. It's all porn.
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BTW, speaking of pornography, why precisely isn't most of the tabloid fodder that the rubes in the red states gulp down considered porn?
Laci Peterson? The Olsen Twins?
Comeon. It's all porn.
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You know who's really threatening us with erotoxins, is the
BATHROOM LESBIANS!!!!!!!
AAAAAAAARRGGHH!!!
BATHROOM LESBIANS!
BATHROOM LESBIANS!
BATHROOM LESBIANS!
BATHROOM!!
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You know who's really threatening us with erotoxins, is the
BATHROOM LESBIANS!!!!!!!
AAAAAAAARRGGHH!!!
BATHROOM LESBIANS!
BATHROOM LESBIANS!
BATHROOM LESBIANS!
BATHROOM!!
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Sorry, I'm a little on edge these days. Haven't been getting enough erototoxins.
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...interesting, that was always my friend's excuse...
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Sorry, I'm a little on edge these days. Haven't been getting enough erototoxins.
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...interesting, that was always my friend's excuse...
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Shit,
There is an underground sexual revolution going on in this country BECAUSE of the internet. Woo Hoo!
Freaking prudes.
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Shit,
There is an underground sexual revolution going on in this country BECAUSE of the internet. Woo Hoo!
Freaking prudes.
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My guess is that the Red State numbers would be significantly larger than the Blue State numbers.
Depends if you look at the sources of the revenue, or where it goes; I bet most of it is produced in bright blue states, though I wouldn't be surprised if a disproportionate amount of it was sold in red states.
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My guess is that the Red State numbers would be significantly larger than the Blue State numbers.
Depends if you look at the sources of the revenue, or where it goes; I bet most of it is produced in bright blue states, though I wouldn't be surprised if a disproportionate amount of it was sold in red states.
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The conservative right does not want gays and activist judges ramming agendas down their throats and exploding all over their faces.
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The conservative right does not want gays and activist judges ramming agendas down their throats and exploding all over their faces.
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OT:Juan Cole gets it right for once!
For once?
Let me just clarify my comments. First of all, I did not say that the Iraq war was a legitimate war. It was not. It violated the charter of the United Nations.
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OT:Juan Cole gets it right for once!
For once?
Let me just clarify my comments. First of all, I did not say that the Iraq war was a legitimate war. It was not. It violated the charter of the United Nations.
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I guess the "ero" is for erotic and toxins, well, means toxins or erotoxoins.
How cute. They made a little word.
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I guess the "ero" is for erotic and toxins, well, means toxins or erotoxoins.
How cute. They made a little word.
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kinda O.T. but involves the holier than thou crowd:
Has anyone ever tangled with The National Council for Bible Curriculum in Public Schools?
I was wondering cause some woman from North Carolina has showed up here my little ole town in Arkansas and wants our school district to adopt their Bible classes to our school curriculum. Just wondering if anyone has beat them back before they got a school district bogged down in a nasty and expensive legal battle over this class.
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kinda O.T. but involves the holier than thou crowd:
Has anyone ever tangled with The National Council for Bible Curriculum in Public Schools?
I was wondering cause some woman from North Carolina has showed up here my little ole town in Arkansas and wants our school district to adopt their Bible classes to our school curriculum. Just wondering if anyone has beat them back before they got a school district bogged down in a nasty and expensive legal battle over this class.
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pornographic images stay in the brain forever, Layden said
If that were true, there would be a lot fewer stacks of Hot Mature Mamas magazines hidden in closets around the country. >
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pornographic images stay in the brain forever, Layden said
If that were true, there would be a lot fewer stacks of Hot Mature Mamas magazines hidden in closets around the country. >
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As for the topic of this post, good grief.
What a bunch of whining, hypocritical, microscopic weenies.
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As for the topic of this post, good grief.
What a bunch of whining, hypocritical, microscopic weenies.
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Jesus, there's "dr" Judith Riesman, that clitless old Nazi. She was actually was Captain Kangaroo's puppeteer, got fired, and started peddling quack science books about Kinsey being a child molester, Ted Bundy having been driven to kill by Hugh Hefner, that kind of thing. She has a degree in being a gym teacher. The excellent Miss Poppy Dixon has a nice page on her over at Adult Christianity
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Amen, Professor Cole!
Logocentric Lou
Ummm...is Cole's opinion supposed to shock us or something? As always, he seems perfectly rational to me. There may be a few people out there who can't make a moral distinction between kids who got shipped off unnecessarily to Iraq, and now have to fight for their lives under horrifying circumstances, and the sort of bloodthirsty cowards who'd terrorize and murder an aid worker on videotape, but they're not going to be taken seriously by anyone. U.S. soldiers are victims of this idiotic war too. I don't blame them for what they do; I blame the people who sent them there for no reason.
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Jesus, there's "dr" Judith Riesman, that clitless old Nazi. She was actually was Captain Kangaroo's puppeteer, got fired, and started peddling quack science books about Kinsey being a child molester, Ted Bundy having been driven to kill by Hugh Hefner, that kind of thing. She has a degree in being a gym teacher. The excellent Miss Poppy Dixon has a nice page on her over at Adult Christianity
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Amen, Professor Cole!
Logocentric Lou
Ummm...is Cole's opinion supposed to shock us or something? As always, he seems perfectly rational to me. There may be a few people out there who can't make a moral distinction between kids who got shipped off unnecessarily to Iraq, and now have to fight for their lives under horrifying circumstances, and the sort of bloodthirsty cowards who'd terrorize and murder an aid worker on videotape, but they're not going to be taken seriously by anyone. U.S. soldiers are victims of this idiotic war too. I don't blame them for what they do; I blame the people who sent them there for no reason.
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I really think they all need some therapy. - four legs good
Can we develop an antidote for the effects of neurototoxins?
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I really think they all need some therapy. - four legs good
Can we develop an antidote for the effects of neurototoxins?
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SWR,
The Olson Twins aren't porn. Close-ups of double-anal penetration are porn. But your first point is correct, red state consumption of said porn is a national crisis waiting to explode all over our faces.
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SWR,
The Olson Twins aren't porn. Close-ups of double-anal penetration are porn. But your first point is correct, red state consumption of said porn is a national crisis waiting to explode all over our faces.
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I believe we can now declare our brief flirtation with becoming the morality party over, and not a moment too soon. There's no way we can outdo these crackpots...
Ok, what this thing is is the latest example of a crass, tactical wedge issue.
If we come out and take the bait and advocate *for pornography* (???) we get egg on our faces w/ people who are staunchly opposed to it. In that way, the GOP consolidates its hold over those people.
The proper way to respond to it is to call it what it is:
A "cat stuck in tree" story dicerting people's attentio from problems that really matter: poverty, persecution, etc.
We are
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I believe we can now declare our brief flirtation with becoming the morality party over, and not a moment too soon. There's no way we can outdo these crackpots...
Ok, what this thing is is the latest example of a crass, tactical wedge issue.
If we come out and take the bait and advocate *for pornography* (???) we get egg on our faces w/ people who are staunchly opposed to it. In that way, the GOP consolidates its hold over those people.
The proper way to respond to it is to call it what it is:
A "cat stuck in tree" story dicerting people's attentio from problems that really matter: poverty, persecution, etc.
We are
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well... the Marriotts won't be pleased if porn is squashed outside of the internets, of course, since a positively huge chunk of their revenue is earned by the teevee pornawgrawphy sold in each and every hotel room they own...
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well... the Marriotts won't be pleased if porn is squashed outside of the internets, of course, since a positively huge chunk of their revenue is earned by the teevee pornawgrawphy sold in each and every hotel room they own...
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And furthermore..."erototoxins". These nitwits are saying that getting turned on - a natural biological reaction to stimuli that helps in continuing the fucking species - is "bad for you".
All kinds of natural responses that help to continue the species can be bad for you in the wrong context including, for instance, immune reactions.
Nothing bizarre about that.
Something bizarre about the utter lack of rational basis for the particular claim they are making, though.
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And furthermore..."erototoxins". These nitwits are saying that getting turned on - a natural biological reaction to stimuli that helps in continuing the fucking species - is "bad for you".
All kinds of natural responses that help to continue the species can be bad for you in the wrong context including, for instance, immune reactions.
Nothing bizarre about that.
Something bizarre about the utter lack of rational basis for the particular claim they are making, though.
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Or is Freud just passe now?
SWR
Well...
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Or is Freud just passe now?
SWR
Well...
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"Since Bush is a religious conservative, I think his choices will be guided by those ideals.
I'm mystified as to why these people choose to tout the 'morals' of the 1950s and reject the
advances of the 1960s.
1950s society in the U.S. was a very sick one indeed. McCarthyism was at its peak, and sexism was rampant.
In the 60's, these problems began to be remedied.
'Leave it To Beaver' was a fictional show, not a documentary."
-- Heard on the BBC recently
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"Since Bush is a religious conservative, I think his choices will be guided by those ideals.
I'm mystified as to why these people choose to tout the 'morals' of the 1950s and reject the
advances of the 1960s.
1950s society in the U.S. was a very sick one indeed. McCarthyism was at its peak, and sexism was rampant.
In the 60's, these problems began to be remedied.
'Leave it To Beaver' was a fictional show, not a documentary."
-- Heard on the BBC recently
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I think it was the gallons of wine the funnell and the knife to the belly that did it for me.
I remember when Malcolm Macdowell awakens in bed with the horse. The audience in the packed theater I was in started to yell at the screen things like "come on" and "gimme a break, already."
On of the worst movies I ever saw, but Macdowell's story on Letterman years later about having to do the Caligula pissing scene on the day Malcolm's dad came down to the set was hilarious. Macdowell said he was basically mortified doing that scene in front of his father, but his father was thrilled.
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I think it was the gallons of wine the funnell and the knife to the belly that did it for me.
I remember when Malcolm Macdowell awakens in bed with the horse. The audience in the packed theater I was in started to yell at the screen things like "come on" and "gimme a break, already."
On of the worst movies I ever saw, but Macdowell's story on Letterman years later about having to do the Caligula pissing scene on the day Malcolm's dad came down to the set was hilarious. Macdowell said he was basically mortified doing that scene in front of his father, but his father was thrilled.
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Pornography really does, unlike other addictions, biologically cause direct release of the most perfect addictive substance," Satinover said. "That is, it causes masturbation, which causes release of the naturally occurring opioids. It does what heroin can't do, in effect."
It's true, pornography does cause masturbation. Farm animals also cause bestiality. They're dangerous, I tell you.
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Pornography really does, unlike other addictions, biologically cause direct release of the most perfect addictive substance," Satinover said. "That is, it causes masturbation, which causes release of the naturally occurring opioids. It does what heroin can't do, in effect."
It's true, pornography does cause masturbation. Farm animals also cause bestiality. They're dangerous, I tell you.
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" The campaign should combat the messages of pornography by putting signs on buses saying sex with children is not OK, said Layden. "
The better pornographers should totally beat them to it with this garbage defamation: naked intertwined well-oiled highly photogenic adults (in various combinations, but especially AC/AC & DC/DC given the audience) with captions and banners saying "sex with children is notr okay" and "how can you think about kids at a time like this?" etc.
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" The campaign should combat the messages of pornography by putting signs on buses saying sex with children is not OK, said Layden. "
The better pornographers should totally beat them to it with this garbage defamation: naked intertwined well-oiled highly photogenic adults (in various combinations, but especially AC/AC & DC/DC given the audience) with captions and banners saying "sex with children is notr okay" and "how can you think about kids at a time like this?" etc.
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The conservative right does not want gays and activist judges ramming agendas down their throats and exploding all over their faces.
fresh leaves
ha ha You noticed that too. They always say, "We don't want the gays ramming their agenda down our throats." I always get a big laugh out of that.
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The conservative right does not want gays and activist judges ramming agendas down their throats and exploding all over their faces.
fresh leaves
ha ha You noticed that too. They always say, "We don't want the gays ramming their agenda down our throats." I always get a big laugh out of that.
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well you tried it just for once found it all right for kicks.
but now you found out that it's a habit that sticks.
and you're an orgasm addict.
you're an orgasm addict.
sneaking in the back door with dirty magazines.
now your mother wants to know what all those stains on your jeans.
and you're an orgasm addict.
you're an orgasm addict.
Buzzcocks - "Orgasm Addict"
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well you tried it just for once found it all right for kicks.
but now you found out that it's a habit that sticks.
and you're an orgasm addict.
you're an orgasm addict.
sneaking in the back door with dirty magazines.
now your mother wants to know what all those stains on your jeans.
and you're an orgasm addict.
you're an orgasm addict.
Buzzcocks - "Orgasm Addict"
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Swan,
The proper response is what we've demonstrated here:
hooting derision.
I believe that is the route out of hell.
cosmic grappler |
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Swan,
The proper response is what we've demonstrated here:
hooting derision.
I believe that is the route out of hell.
cosmic grappler |
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HA HA
I don't want those homosexuals shoving their agenda into my pants, I can tell you that right now.
Their big throbbing agenda...
cosmic grappler |
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HA HA
I don't want those homosexuals shoving their agenda into my pants, I can tell you that right now.
Their big throbbing agenda...
cosmic grappler |
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pit-pats re hotel porn--oh our thousands of Shinto gods--we read this San Diego liberal free weekly paper article by a token Jonathan Edwards nutball who decided to do "research" by actually going to a motel and renting a room and buying some TV porn. The whole time scribbling down indignant, carefully worded evidence. Fucking hilarious. This same guy always wrote such insane crap, the rest of the San Diego Weekly Reader is pretty interesting though.
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pit-pats re hotel porn--oh our thousands of Shinto gods--we read this San Diego liberal free weekly paper article by a token Jonathan Edwards nutball who decided to do "research" by actually going to a motel and renting a room and buying some TV porn. The whole time scribbling down indignant, carefully worded evidence. Fucking hilarious. This same guy always wrote such insane crap, the rest of the San Diego Weekly Reader is pretty interesting though.
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The proper way to respond to it is to call it what it is:
It is fundie whackjobs with too much time on their hands and too little brains in their heads.
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The proper way to respond to it is to call it what it is:
It is fundie whackjobs with too much time on their hands and too little brains in their heads.
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Black and white as usual.
Moderation to these moralists is too close to the word masterbation. Guilt by association.
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Black and white as usual.
Moderation to these moralists is too close to the word masterbation. Guilt by association.
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1950s society in the U.S. was a very sick one indeed. McCarthyism was at its peak, and sexism was rampant.
I think I've said this before...but 1950s America was "sick" because it was a culturally exciting time in which new ideas were being expressed, and traditional concepts were being questioned and overthrown. The repression of that era was a RESPONSE to people who were claiming or demanding freedoms. That's why they call repression "reactionary," because it's a reaction. In that sense, it's not much different from where we've been ever since. And personally, I wish we had half as much cultural opposition to fascism today as 1950s America had.
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1950s society in the U.S. was a very sick one indeed. McCarthyism was at its peak, and sexism was rampant.
I think I've said this before...but 1950s America was "sick" because it was a culturally exciting time in which new ideas were being expressed, and traditional concepts were being questioned and overthrown. The repression of that era was a RESPONSE to people who were claiming or demanding freedoms. That's why they call repression "reactionary," because it's a reaction. In that sense, it's not much different from where we've been ever since. And personally, I wish we had half as much cultural opposition to fascism today as 1950s America had.
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The Olson Twins aren't porn. Close-ups of double-anal penetration are porn.
They're not "porn" but their "pornographic".
Similarly, photographs or statues of nudes aren't necessarily "pornographic".
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The Olson Twins aren't porn. Close-ups of double-anal penetration are porn.
They're not "porn" but their "pornographic".
Similarly, photographs or statues of nudes aren't necessarily "pornographic".
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Blind Athena is not pornographic. John Ashcroft in front of Athena is pronographic.
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Blind Athena is not pornographic. John Ashcroft in front of Athena is pronographic.
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Why does Santorum have such a connection with box turtles anyway? It only makes sense....
Barndog
again, it's Cornyn that's Senator Box Turtle. Santorum is Senator Man on Dog
I think they are all secret sickos desperate to hide it by shouting against it.
Yep. Puritans and Pornographers are flip sides of the same coin; they need each other to flourish.
deja pseu
increases the prices without effecting the demand, they gotta love it
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Why does Santorum have such a connection with box turtles anyway? It only makes sense....
Barndog
again, it's Cornyn that's Senator Box Turtle. Santorum is Senator Man on Dog
I think they are all secret sickos desperate to hide it by shouting against it.
Yep. Puritans and Pornographers are flip sides of the same coin; they need each other to flourish.
deja pseu
increases the prices without effecting the demand, they gotta love it
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Phila: church bombings, standing death sentence to any black man or boy looking at white chicks, etc.
SWR-good point, we were going to bring up our preference for auditory and more mental stimulus a ban on photographs and visual images would do nothing to. Will they close down gyms?
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Phila: church bombings, standing death sentence to any black man or boy looking at white chicks, etc.
SWR-good point, we were going to bring up our preference for auditory and more mental stimulus a ban on photographs and visual images would do nothing to. Will they close down gyms?
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Do you suppose they meant excitotoxins instead of erototoxins?
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Do you suppose they meant excitotoxins instead of erototoxins?
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"...personally, I wish we had half as much cultural opposition to fascism today as 1950s America had."
Philalethes
Amen. But I'm optimistic. The more these people think they're the mainstream and the more they start airing their strageness in public, the more people are going to come blinking into the sunlight saying, "Jesus, we didn't vote for THAT!"
And the arts in the 50's rocked, both literally and figuratively, mainly in reaction to conformity and suppression.
So, to coin a phrase, bring it on.
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"...personally, I wish we had half as much cultural opposition to fascism today as 1950s America had."
Philalethes
Amen. But I'm optimistic. The more these people think they're the mainstream and the more they start airing their strageness in public, the more people are going to come blinking into the sunlight saying, "Jesus, we didn't vote for THAT!"
And the arts in the 50's rocked, both literally and figuratively, mainly in reaction to conformity and suppression.
So, to coin a phrase, bring it on.
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I like excitotoxins with my erototoxins.
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I like excitotoxins with my erototoxins.
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Anyone remember the news story about hookers being brought in to NYC to meet the demand for the Rethug Nat'l Convention?
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Anyone remember the news story about hookers being brought in to NYC to meet the demand for the Rethug Nat'l Convention?
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SWR-good point, we were going to bring up our preference for auditory and more mental stimulus a ban on photographs and visual images would do nothing to. Will they close down gyms?
Or paint clothes on the figures in the Sistine Chapel?
The problem with talking about "pornography" is that any kind of sexually explicit material takes on the character of it's audience.
There's nothing necessarily harmfull in nudity or even sexually explict films.
Pornography in the US tends to be disturbing because it's catering to people who have been repressed and are using the pornography to get in touch with parts of themselves that society won't allow a healthy outlet.
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SWR-good point, we were going to bring up our preference for auditory and more mental stimulus a ban on photographs and visual images would do nothing to. Will they close down gyms?
Or paint clothes on the figures in the Sistine Chapel?
The problem with talking about "pornography" is that any kind of sexually explicit material takes on the character of it's audience.
There's nothing necessarily harmfull in nudity or even sexually explict films.
Pornography in the US tends to be disturbing because it's catering to people who have been repressed and are using the pornography to get in touch with parts of themselves that society won't allow a healthy outlet.
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Bees do it, bears do it, geese do it, Preznit and Condi do it.
It's really no big deal. Sex is just nature's way of making a beautiful, euphoric sticky mess.
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Bees do it, bears do it, geese do it, Preznit and Condi do it.
It's really no big deal. Sex is just nature's way of making a beautiful, euphoric sticky mess.
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I think they meant to say X-citotoxins.
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I think they meant to say X-citotoxins.
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Well, art is art, isn't it? Still, on the other hand, water is water. And east is east and west is west and if you take cranberries and stew them like applesauce they taste much more like prunes than rhubarb does. Now, uh... Now you tell me what you know.
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Well, art is art, isn't it? Still, on the other hand, water is water. And east is east and west is west and if you take cranberries and stew them like applesauce they taste much more like prunes than rhubarb does. Now, uh... Now you tell me what you know.
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A few years ago (someplace in the heartland, I forget which state), encouraged by a law against kiddie porn, the first thing the fundies went after was
videos of fisting?
No.
videos of double anal penetration?
No.
videos of bukkake?
Nope, not even close.
The Tin Drum. That's right, the movie of Gunter Grass' novel.
The Tin fucking Drum.
But they left SpectraVision alone.
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A few years ago (someplace in the heartland, I forget which state), encouraged by a law against kiddie porn, the first thing the fundies went after was
videos of fisting?
No.
videos of double anal penetration?
No.
videos of bukkake?
Nope, not even close.
The Tin Drum. That's right, the movie of Gunter Grass' novel.
The Tin fucking Drum.
But they left SpectraVision alone.
cosmic grappler |
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Boy that kiss Bush planted on Condi the other day really made me feel uncomfortably dirty. Like overhearing a nasty little secret.
yuck....gives me shivers
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Boy that kiss Bush planted on Condi the other day really made me feel uncomfortably dirty. Like overhearing a nasty little secret.
yuck....gives me shivers
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Well shit, I guess they better legislate lobotomies. The best porn I've ever seen is in front of my eyes when they are closed having sex, making love, fucking, whatever.
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Well shit, I guess they better legislate lobotomies. The best porn I've ever seen is in front of my eyes when they are closed having sex, making love, fucking, whatever.
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Dworkin tried outlawing porn and got hoised by her own petard, because porn can be anything, and because in a healthy society you see sexual flavors and tints outside of purely pornographic things (statues of Greek goddesses representing ideals). If someone were more interested in power relationships, periods of strain and tension not necessarily physical or athletic exertion than in stupid passive photographic "modelling," how would you go about banning these abstract concepts that form a vital element depended upon in almost every narrative since Odysseus?
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Dworkin tried outlawing porn and got hoised by her own petard, because porn can be anything, and because in a healthy society you see sexual flavors and tints outside of purely pornographic things (statues of Greek goddesses representing ideals). If someone were more interested in power relationships, periods of strain and tension not necessarily physical or athletic exertion than in stupid passive photographic "modelling," how would you go about banning these abstract concepts that form a vital element depended upon in almost every narrative since Odysseus?
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For some reason, this thread has me thinking of my favorite psycho-pixie, Bjork:
if you ever get close to a human
and human behaviour
be ready be ready to get confused
there's definitely definitely definitely no logic
to human behaviour
but yet so yet so irresistible
and there's no map to human behaviour
they're terribly terribly terribly terribly moody
then all of a sudden turn happy
but, oh, to get involved in the exchange
of human emotions
is ever so ever so satisfying
and there's no map
and a compass wouldn't help at all
Sex is such an integral part of human behaviour. No wonder it drives the fundies nuts (NPI).
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For some reason, this thread has me thinking of my favorite psycho-pixie, Bjork:
if you ever get close to a human
and human behaviour
be ready be ready to get confused
there's definitely definitely definitely no logic
to human behaviour
but yet so yet so irresistible
and there's no map to human behaviour
they're terribly terribly terribly terribly moody
then all of a sudden turn happy
but, oh, to get involved in the exchange
of human emotions
is ever so ever so satisfying
and there's no map
and a compass wouldn't help at all
Sex is such an integral part of human behaviour. No wonder it drives the fundies nuts (NPI).
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I know we could, with time, reverse it. But maybe we wont have time. I'm just worried aging Rapturists will provoke something irreversible. Dominionists believe in The Jesus Factor. They believe that if the nukes begin flying, if it wasn't meant to be, then Jesus would intervene and prevent it. You guys just have no idea how dangerous and whacked they really are. The "erotoxins" ones are laughable. It's those behind the scenes of this administration who really worry me.
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I know we could, with time, reverse it. But maybe we wont have time. I'm just worried aging Rapturists will provoke something irreversible. Dominionists believe in The Jesus Factor. They believe that if the nukes begin flying, if it wasn't meant to be, then Jesus would intervene and prevent it. You guys just have no idea how dangerous and whacked they really are. The "erotoxins" ones are laughable. It's those behind the scenes of this administration who really worry me.
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I've once had a roommate of Brownback's at Washburn U. law school tell me he was a neat freak. When they would play a pickup basketball game, sammy would come with T-shirts with crease marks while everyone else was wearing their cleanest dirty shirts. Yep, sammy even folded his underwear. Apparently, he's always been a prissy little dick.
Probably a pervert too, judging by his foot-washing fetish.
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erotoxins aren't just for breakfast anymore.
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I've once had a roommate of Brownback's at Washburn U. law school tell me he was a neat freak. When they would play a pickup basketball game, sammy would come with T-shirts with crease marks while everyone else was wearing their cleanest dirty shirts. Yep, sammy even folded his underwear. Apparently, he's always been a prissy little dick.
Probably a pervert too, judging by his foot-washing fetish.
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erotoxins aren't just for breakfast anymore.
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cg,
I remember that Tin Drum flap. It was supposed to be kiddie porn because Oskar (16, but visually 3) is in bed with a girl (16, but visually about 30). So a very young man making love to much older woman, or to flip the victimization, a boy being molested. But to see it as kiddie porn means a willful ignorance of what the scene means, and also that the censor didn't read the fucking book! To quote our favorite ex-Dem nutjob, "You know what a metafer is, dontha?"
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cg,
I remember that Tin Drum flap. It was supposed to be kiddie porn because Oskar (16, but visually 3) is in bed with a girl (16, but visually about 30). So a very young man making love to much older woman, or to flip the victimization, a boy being molested. But to see it as kiddie porn means a willful ignorance of what the scene means, and also that the censor didn't read the fucking book! To quote our favorite ex-Dem nutjob, "You know what a metafer is, dontha?"
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Sure, you can argue at point in it's short time on this earth a uterine fibroid should be considered a human. But it is God's creation and shouldn't just be ripped out of it's mothers womb.
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Sure, you can argue at point in it's short time on this earth a uterine fibroid should be considered a human. But it is God's creation and shouldn't just be ripped out of it's mothers womb.
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because porn can be anything, and because in a healthy society you see sexual flavors and tints outside of purely pornographic things
Has anybody ever thought of filming a series of sexually explicit tales from the Old Testement (complete with full nudity and penetration)?
Queue cheesy porn music, Joseph and the Pharoh's wife:
Pharoh's wife (disrobing): "Oh Joseph. Do you peform as well as you prophesize?"
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because porn can be anything, and because in a healthy society you see sexual flavors and tints outside of purely pornographic things
Has anybody ever thought of filming a series of sexually explicit tales from the Old Testement (complete with full nudity and penetration)?
Queue cheesy porn music, Joseph and the Pharoh's wife:
Pharoh's wife (disrobing): "Oh Joseph. Do you peform as well as you prophesize?"
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It's really no big deal. Sex is just nature's way of making a beautiful, euphoric sticky mess.
fresh leaves
Woody Allen used to say "sex is he most fun you can have without laughing." Personally, I've always thought that if you're not laughing, you're probably doing something wrong.
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It's really no big deal. Sex is just nature's way of making a beautiful, euphoric sticky mess.
fresh leaves
Woody Allen used to say "sex is he most fun you can have without laughing." Personally, I've always thought that if you're not laughing, you're probably doing something wrong.
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it takes courage
to enjoy it
especially when the [libertarian anti-big-]government is watching you instead of the terrorists
biiiiiig
ti-ime
sensuality
(sensuality)
i don't know my future
after this weekend
and i don't want to
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it takes courage
to enjoy it
especially when the [libertarian anti-big-]government is watching you instead of the terrorists
biiiiiig
ti-ime
sensuality
(sensuality)
i don't know my future
after this weekend
and i don't want to
kei & yuri |
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because porn can be anything, and because in a healthy society you see sexual flavors and tints outside of purely pornographic things
I seem to remember a lot of seed spilling and incest last time I read the bible. I think yer onta sumpin, SWR.
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because porn can be anything, and because in a healthy society you see sexual flavors and tints outside of purely pornographic things
I seem to remember a lot of seed spilling and incest last time I read the bible. I think yer onta sumpin, SWR.
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SWR-no, no, no, you ruined it. Pharoah's wife can't be just a pathetic object on her back (like the Futurama joke: "now that we're rid of the massive ball of garbage, Doctor, maybe you can help me with my sexual dysfunction"--"With gusto.") She has to climb on top of him like Demi Moore on Michael Douglas and make clear his lack of choice, etc.
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SWR-no, no, no, you ruined it. Pharoah's wife can't be just a pathetic object on her back (like the Futurama joke: "now that we're rid of the massive ball of garbage, Doctor, maybe you can help me with my sexual dysfunction"--"With gusto.") She has to climb on top of him like Demi Moore on Michael Douglas and make clear his lack of choice, etc.
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Was it Dorothy Parker who named her unrly parakeet Onan? Because he kept spilling his seed upon the ground?
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Was it Dorothy Parker who named her unrly parakeet Onan? Because he kept spilling his seed upon the ground?
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I seem to remember a lot of seed spilling and incest last time I read the bible. I think yer onta sumpin, SWR
I'm thinking full frontal nudity with penetration of Lot and his daughters with actors that look exactly like Bush, Jenna, and Not Jenna.
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I seem to remember a lot of seed spilling and incest last time I read the bible. I think yer onta sumpin, SWR
I'm thinking full frontal nudity with penetration of Lot and his daughters with actors that look exactly like Bush, Jenna, and Not Jenna.
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anyone else remember the story of the guy renting adult videos in SLC that got busted for "violating community standards" and wound up showing during discovery that SLC was one of the top markets for Playboy/Spice/Porn on demand cable?
wonder how soon until the good Senator gets a letter from the General and/or Larry Flynt with some of Brownback's glossies
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anyone else remember the story of the guy renting adult videos in SLC that got busted for "violating community standards" and wound up showing during discovery that SLC was one of the top markets for Playboy/Spice/Porn on demand cable?
wonder how soon until the good Senator gets a letter from the General and/or Larry Flynt with some of Brownback's glossies
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because porn can be anything, and because in a healthy society you see sexual flavors and tints outside of purely pornographic things
Hmm.. wonder what Dick Morris thinks of Shrimp Lover's month at Red Lobster?
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because porn can be anything, and because in a healthy society you see sexual flavors and tints outside of purely pornographic things
Hmm.. wonder what Dick Morris thinks of Shrimp Lover's month at Red Lobster?
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Anybody remember another early 70s
satirical porn novel called "Billy
and Betty" by Twigs Jameson (a
psuedonym, obviously). I think it
was published by Olympia Press.
Anyway, the gimmick was that it was
hard core porn, except that the
author made up new words for all the
dirty ones. I seem to recall he
coined "pudarkus" for, how shall I
say, a female's naughty bits.
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Anybody remember another early 70s
satirical porn novel called "Billy
and Betty" by Twigs Jameson (a
psuedonym, obviously). I think it
was published by Olympia Press.
Anyway, the gimmick was that it was
hard core porn, except that the
author made up new words for all the
dirty ones. I seem to recall he
coined "pudarkus" for, how shall I
say, a female's naughty bits.
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Remember it was Lot's daughters who "raped" him, because they were so concerned for the good of the line. And Noah getting drunk and exposing himself to his kids, who responded by walking backwards.
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Remember it was Lot's daughters who "raped" him, because they were so concerned for the good of the line. And Noah getting drunk and exposing himself to his kids, who responded by walking backwards.
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To be pedantic, if you want "graphic stories from the Bible", with "full nudity and penetration", Joseph and Pharoah's wife doesn't work as a good example, unless you are radically changing the story, since the whole point is that she claimed to have been assaulted because he refused her.
Not that there aren't a lot of things that could be done there without changing the substance of stories (Lot and his daughters, for instance).
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To be pedantic, if you want "graphic stories from the Bible", with "full nudity and penetration", Joseph and Pharoah's wife doesn't work as a good example, unless you are radically changing the story, since the whole point is that she claimed to have been assaulted because he refused her.
Not that there aren't a lot of things that could be done there without changing the substance of stories (Lot and his daughters, for instance).
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I saw a show not long ago that revealed that the state that's #1 in per-capita pay-per-view residential satellite porn purchases is Utah.
Uh-huh. The reddest of the red states is the biggest satellite porn consumer in the country. Who woulda thunk it?
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I saw a show not long ago that revealed that the state that's #1 in per-capita pay-per-view residential satellite porn purchases is Utah.
Uh-huh. The reddest of the red states is the biggest satellite porn consumer in the country. Who woulda thunk it?
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Dick Morris really needs to take his own foot out of his mouth and choke on someone else's.
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Dick Morris really needs to take his own foot out of his mouth and choke on someone else's.
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To be pedantic, if you want "graphic stories from the Bible", with "full nudity and penetration", Joseph and Pharoah's wife doesn't work as a good example, unless you are radically changing the story, since the whole point is that she claimed to have been assaulted because he refused her.
But she obviously fantasized about getting it on with his big Hebrew manhood so we could film the nudity and penetration as a fantasy sequence inside the head of the Pharoh's wife.
It didn't really happen (we'll make that clear). It's only a possibility.
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To be pedantic, if you want "graphic stories from the Bible", with "full nudity and penetration", Joseph and Pharoah's wife doesn't work as a good example, unless you are radically changing the story, since the whole point is that she claimed to have been assaulted because he refused her.
But she obviously fantasized about getting it on with his big Hebrew manhood so we could film the nudity and penetration as a fantasy sequence inside the head of the Pharoh's wife.
It didn't really happen (we'll make that clear). It's only a possibility.
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oops-
I meant to say, (but cut myself off somehow) we are the party of morality, and they are the party of lies and obfuscation, and we do need to recognize it and talk like it- we need to answer this as a distraction from real issues.
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oops-
I meant to say, (but cut myself off somehow) we are the party of morality, and they are the party of lies and obfuscation, and we do need to recognize it and talk like it- we need to answer this as a distraction from real issues.
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Howard Stern should lead a huge sexual offensive on the part of all entertainers not collaborators or family-identified (like Robin Williams).
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Howard Stern should lead a huge sexual offensive on the part of all entertainers not collaborators or family-identified (like Robin Williams).
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I'm also thinking explicit Jesus/Mary Magdelane sequences.
Drag your cross in here big boy and let's see you perform some miracles.
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I'm also thinking explicit Jesus/Mary Magdelane sequences.
Drag your cross in here big boy and let's see you perform some miracles.
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This is sort of off on a tangent, but:
Calif. Man Convicted Under New Federal Law Aimed at Sex Tourism
An 86-year-old man was found guilty Friday of attempting to travel to the Philippines to sexually molest girls, in violation of a new federal law aimed at fighting sex tourism.
His defense attorney, Allan Stokke, had argued that the government presented insufficient evidence that Seljan intended to have sex with two girls with whom he exchanged sexually explicit letters.
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This is sort of off on a tangent, but:
Calif. Man Convicted Under New Federal Law Aimed at Sex Tourism
An 86-year-old man was found guilty Friday of attempting to travel to the Philippines to sexually molest girls, in violation of a new federal law aimed at fighting sex tourism.
His defense attorney, Allan Stokke, had argued that the government presented insufficient evidence that Seljan intended to have sex with two girls with whom he exchanged sexually explicit letters.
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Seljan, who sat in a wheelchair during the non-jury trial, was arrested at Los Angeles International Airport, where he allegedly attempted to board a flight with child pornography, sexual aids and nearly 100 pounds of chocolate.
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Seljan, who sat in a wheelchair during the non-jury trial, was arrested at Los Angeles International Airport, where he allegedly attempted to board a flight with child pornography, sexual aids and nearly 100 pounds of chocolate.
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On the other hand, it was Johnny
Rotten who once observed that "sex
was twenty seconds of squishing
noises that proves your head's not
on straight."
He may have moderated his views
since then, however.
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On the other hand, it was Johnny
Rotten who once observed that "sex
was twenty seconds of squishing
noises that proves your head's not
on straight."
He may have moderated his views
since then, however.
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An 86 year old man with 100 pounds of chocolate and a suitcase full of kiddy porn on his way to the Phillipines?
Jesus Christ. I can die now. I've seen everything.
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An 86 year old man with 100 pounds of chocolate and a suitcase full of kiddy porn on his way to the Phillipines?
Jesus Christ. I can die now. I've seen everything.
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That was my wife's reaction, too, SWR
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That was my wife's reaction, too, SWR
just me |
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steve,
Maybe John Lydon needs to find a girl with a less squishy podarkus.
Just sayin'
NYMary |
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steve,
Maybe John Lydon needs to find a girl with a less squishy podarkus.
Just sayin'
NYMary |
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An 86 year old man with 100 pounds of chocolate and a suitcase full of kiddy porn on his way to the Phillipines?
Is he a republican?
Or human?
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An 86 year old man with 100 pounds of chocolate and a suitcase full of kiddy porn on his way to the Phillipines?
Is he a republican?
Or human?
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November 19, 2004
Hello everyone my name is Jason Gooljar. I am running for the 92nd Assembly District. Now more than ever it is clear that we need to take a new direction with our State. Here in NY I am tired of hearing about state mandates that are passed on to the local municipalities. It's time the state pays for it's programs, we need to work towards lowering property taxes in the district and throughout the state. We need to work towards raising the minimum wage here in the state of New York. We need to close Indian Point once and for all.
As your Assemblyman I would work towards ushering in a new era of politics and community involvement. I am a progressive and an activist first. I will always remain true to those two focuses. I will seek to work with all progressives and activists in the district and throughout the state. This campaign is going to be a grassroots people oriented effort. I will look to include young people and minorities like myself to help grow the progressive movement in this state. I cannot do this without you and I look to make this a campaign for everyone. I share the same goals that you share I ask that people who seek change to work through me to achieve something that we can all be proud of. At the age of 25, I may be young but I ask that you all grow with me as I grow with you. I got into politics because of Howard Dean's campaign and my goal is to further the progressive agenda and the ideals that arose and that still continue to this day. Thank You.
Jason Gooljar
www.gooljar2006.com
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November 19, 2004
Hello everyone my name is Jason Gooljar. I am running for the 92nd Assembly District. Now more than ever it is clear that we need to take a new direction with our State. Here in NY I am tired of hearing about state mandates that are passed on to the local municipalities. It's time the state pays for it's programs, we need to work towards lowering property taxes in the district and throughout the state. We need to work towards raising the minimum wage here in the state of New York. We need to close Indian Point once and for all.
As your Assemblyman I would work towards ushering in a new era of politics and community involvement. I am a progressive and an activist first. I will always remain true to those two focuses. I will seek to work with all progressives and activists in the district and throughout the state. This campaign is going to be a grassroots people oriented effort. I will look to include young people and minorities like myself to help grow the progressive movement in this state. I cannot do this without you and I look to make this a campaign for everyone. I share the same goals that you share I ask that people who seek change to work through me to achieve something that we can all be proud of. At the age of 25, I may be young but I ask that you all grow with me as I grow with you. I got into politics because of Howard Dean's campaign and my goal is to further the progressive agenda and the ideals that arose and that still continue to this day. Thank You.
Jason Gooljar
www.gooljar2006.com
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Boy that kiss Bush planted on Condi the other day really made me feel uncomfortably dirty.
What's the matter? Haven't you seen llama in ecstacy before?
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Boy that kiss Bush planted on Condi the other day really made me feel uncomfortably dirty.
What's the matter? Haven't you seen llama in ecstacy before?
bo |
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Is he a republican?
Wait just a minute. How old is George Bush Sr.?
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Is he a republican?
Wait just a minute. How old is George Bush Sr.?
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NYMary:
I've said this before, but a very
nice chardonnay was just ejected
through my nose.
Thank you!
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NYMary:
I've said this before, but a very
nice chardonnay was just ejected
through my nose.
Thank you!
steve simels |
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An 86 year old man with 100 pounds of chocolate and a suitcase full of kiddy porn on his way to the Phillipines?
Is he a republican?
Or human?
pie
Hopeful, ever hopeful...
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An 86 year old man with 100 pounds of chocolate and a suitcase full of kiddy porn on his way to the Phillipines?
Is he a republican?
Or human?
pie
Hopeful, ever hopeful...
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The first erotic movie I ever saw was "The Story of O." I think I was about 19 or 20 years old. Man, I was ready to have sex with my boyfriend then.
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The first erotic movie I ever saw was "The Story of O." I think I was about 19 or 20 years old. Man, I was ready to have sex with my boyfriend then.
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Hey everybody, come visit my new blog,The Vent, inspired by Atrios and Atrios readers.
The Vent
If you post a comment about your blog, I will add it to my blogroll
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Hey everybody, come visit my new blog,The Vent, inspired by Atrios and Atrios readers.
The Vent
If you post a comment about your blog, I will add it to my blogroll
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There's a movie version of Story of
O? Pray tell....
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There's a movie version of Story of
O? Pray tell....
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In the spirit of 'fundie whackjobs', Cornyn and Santorum are one in the same to me.
Jeebus - they're all the fucking same right?
Batshit, barking, fucking Daffy Duck looney tune mad? Let's be serious here.
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In the spirit of 'fundie whackjobs', Cornyn and Santorum are one in the same to me.
Jeebus - they're all the fucking same right?
Batshit, barking, fucking Daffy Duck looney tune mad? Let's be serious here.
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The internet is dangerous because it removes the inefficiency in the delivery of pornography, making porn much more ubiquitous than in the days when guys in trench coats would sell nudie postcards, Satinover said.
Interesting time warp these guys have been living in.
But I'm confused. The first erotic movie I ever saw was "The Story of O." I think I was about 19 or 20 years old. Man, I was ready to have sex with my boyfriend then.
Is porn that lead to sex okay? Or is it bad only when it leads to masturbation? Because according to Satinover, that's the dangerous addiction.
Not sure why, of course, but I'm just tryin' to figure out. Are we no longer worried about porn leading to sexual congress? Is onanism a more serious problem?
And whatever happened to the guys in the trenchcoats, anyway? Maybe we should shut down the internet in order to help clothing manufacturers. I'm sure Burberry would appreciate the boost in business.....
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The internet is dangerous because it removes the inefficiency in the delivery of pornography, making porn much more ubiquitous than in the days when guys in trench coats would sell nudie postcards, Satinover said.
Interesting time warp these guys have been living in.
But I'm confused. The first erotic movie I ever saw was "The Story of O." I think I was about 19 or 20 years old. Man, I was ready to have sex with my boyfriend then.
Is porn that lead to sex okay? Or is it bad only when it leads to masturbation? Because according to Satinover, that's the dangerous addiction.
Not sure why, of course, but I'm just tryin' to figure out. Are we no longer worried about porn leading to sexual congress? Is onanism a more serious problem?
And whatever happened to the guys in the trenchcoats, anyway? Maybe we should shut down the internet in order to help clothing manufacturers. I'm sure Burberry would appreciate the boost in business.....
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"The panelists all agreed that the government should fund health campaigns to educate the public about the dangers of pornography."
Kind of like the campaign to educate on the dangers of marijuana. Maybe they'll make a film called "Wanker Madness" this time.
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"The panelists all agreed that the government should fund health campaigns to educate the public about the dangers of pornography."
Kind of like the campaign to educate on the dangers of marijuana. Maybe they'll make a film called "Wanker Madness" this time.
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i think they're trying to pander to conservative christians by offering them something else that's not gonna happen. amend the federal constitution? really unlikely. legislate internet porn away? yeah, uh-huh.
what i think will be interesting is if the conservative christians herded to the polls this year will take the bait or continue to pressure the administration to ban abortion and gay marriage and to put put godly men in charge of us all. if the republicans don't give them something, a lot of conservative christians will walk away from the party.
now i'll take off my academic hat and say: fuckers. or maybe: wannabe fuckers...
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i think they're trying to pander to conservative christians by offering them something else that's not gonna happen. amend the federal constitution? really unlikely. legislate internet porn away? yeah, uh-huh.
what i think will be interesting is if the conservative christians herded to the polls this year will take the bait or continue to pressure the administration to ban abortion and gay marriage and to put put godly men in charge of us all. if the republicans don't give them something, a lot of conservative christians will walk away from the party.
now i'll take off my academic hat and say: fuckers. or maybe: wannabe fuckers...
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The first erotic movie I ever saw was "The Story of O." I think I was about 19 or 20 years old. Man, I was ready to have sex with my boyfriend then.
Funny, that was the first erotic novel I ever read. In the Perry-Castaneda library, at UT in Austin. When I should have been reading literature for my graduate courses....
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The first erotic movie I ever saw was "The Story of O." I think I was about 19 or 20 years old. Man, I was ready to have sex with my boyfriend then.
Funny, that was the first erotic novel I ever read. In the Perry-Castaneda library, at UT in Austin. When I should have been reading literature for my graduate courses....
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What next? Erototerrorism?
George Johnston |
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What next? Erototerrorism?
George Johnston |
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RMJ,
In the dictionary under the word "geek":
a picture of a college student reading The Story of O in a library.
(Hey, what can I tell you? We know our own.)
NYMary |
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RMJ,
In the dictionary under the word "geek":
a picture of a college student reading The Story of O in a library.
(Hey, what can I tell you? We know our own.)
NYMary |
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In your heart.
Or not.
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Jimmy Carter |
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In your heart.
Or not.
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Jimmy Carter |
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I understand that Nixon tried to pull this shit during the Ozzie and Harriet Nelson, Ward and June Cleaver, separate beds 60's.
How ya going to keep them down on the farm after they've seen anal gangbang 65?
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I understand that Nixon tried to pull this shit during the Ozzie and Harriet Nelson, Ward and June Cleaver, separate beds 60's.
How ya going to keep them down on the farm after they've seen anal gangbang 65?
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One point no one here has addressed is that regular sexual activity is necessary for the health of the prostate gland - often men who have prostate inflammation are told to masturbate a few times a day.
I think there have been studies linking good gyneacological health to women who have sex and orgasms frequently as well.
So, try as you might to squelch the sexual urge, we were built like this for a reason, not just for pleasure. The pleasure part was just to make sure we did what was needed to reproduce.
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11.19.04 - 7:39 pm | #
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One point no one here has addressed is that regular sexual activity is necessary for the health of the prostate gland - often men who have prostate inflammation are told to masturbate a few times a day.
I think there have been studies linking good gyneacological health to women who have sex and orgasms frequently as well.
So, try as you might to squelch the sexual urge, we were built like this for a reason, not just for pleasure. The pleasure part was just to make sure we did what was needed to reproduce.
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I've got catatacts and am shaving my palms 4 times a day, anybody have some home remedies?
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I've got catatacts and am shaving my palms 4 times a day, anybody have some home remedies?
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Phila: church bombings, standing death sentence to any black man or boy looking at white chicks, etc.
Yep. Like I said, lots of reactionaries. Lots of racism, especially in the South. Lots of violent outrage at the idea of extending human rights to people who didn't "deserve" them. Lots of worries about sex and violence in movies and cartoons, and lots of arguments for censorship. Lots of paranoia about how "socialism" would destroy us all.
Your point being?
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Phila: church bombings, standing death sentence to any black man or boy looking at white chicks, etc.
Yep. Like I said, lots of reactionaries. Lots of racism, especially in the South. Lots of violent outrage at the idea of extending human rights to people who didn't "deserve" them. Lots of worries about sex and violence in movies and cartoons, and lots of arguments for censorship. Lots of paranoia about how "socialism" would destroy us all.
Your point being?
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OT, but from the "Mandate, My Ass!" file:
Little noticed in this month's election was that the nation's third biggest vote getter, behind only President Bush and John Kerry , was Sen. Barbara Boxer, a fiery California Democrat who proudly wears her liberalism on her sleeve.
In a campaign year when the GOP picked off most of its Democratic targets, Boxer sailed to a third Senate term Nov. 2 with 6.4 million votes, 200,000 more than Kerry got in the state. Ralph Nader's total for the country: 407,000 votes.
Boxer crushed former California Secretary of State Bill Jones by 20 percentage points and scored a bigger share of the electorate than Democrat Dianne Feinstein, the state's senior and more popular senator, got in her last election.
This from a San Francisco Bay Area liberal who's made a habit of exasperating the GOP, whether taking on the Pentagon (news - web sites) over a $7,600 coffee pot — a fight she waged as a junior congresswoman two decades ago — or leading opposition to drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.
"She's certainly one of the most liberal senators in the country, and one that Republicans love to hate," said Ken DeBow, a political scientist at California State University, Sacramento. "And they can't come close to touching her."
Full story here, including a bit about the failure of der Gropinator to shift the entire state into the brownshirt camp...
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OT, but from the "Mandate, My Ass!" file:
Little noticed in this month's election was that the nation's third biggest vote getter, behind only President Bush and John Kerry , was Sen. Barbara Boxer, a fiery California Democrat who proudly wears her liberalism on her sleeve.
In a campaign year when the GOP picked off most of its Democratic targets, Boxer sailed to a third Senate term Nov. 2 with 6.4 million votes, 200,000 more than Kerry got in the state. Ralph Nader's total for the country: 407,000 votes.
Boxer crushed former California Secretary of State Bill Jones by 20 percentage points and scored a bigger share of the electorate than Democrat Dianne Feinstein, the state's senior and more popular senator, got in her last election.
This from a San Francisco Bay Area liberal who's made a habit of exasperating the GOP, whether taking on the Pentagon (news - web sites) over a $7,600 coffee pot — a fight she waged as a junior congresswoman two decades ago — or leading opposition to drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.
"She's certainly one of the most liberal senators in the country, and one that Republicans love to hate," said Ken DeBow, a political scientist at California State University, Sacramento. "And they can't come close to touching her."
Full story here, including a bit about the failure of der Gropinator to shift the entire state into the brownshirt camp...
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>I've got catatacts and am shaving my palms 4 times a day, anybody have some home remedies?<
Washing feet.
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>I've got catatacts and am shaving my palms 4 times a day, anybody have some home remedies?<
Washing feet.
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>Washing feet.<
Unless that's your fetish, in which case, no, no, no!
NYMary |
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>Washing feet.<
Unless that's your fetish, in which case, no, no, no!
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these are only pornographic program related activities.
no real blonde bombshells.
no throbbing nuclear torpedo's.
no real warheads.
but you're thinking about them so we can invade our own country.
really.
-J.T.
Warlord of Silver Spring
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these are only pornographic program related activities.
no real blonde bombshells.
no throbbing nuclear torpedo's.
no real warheads.
but you're thinking about them so we can invade our own country.
really.
-J.T.
Warlord of Silver Spring
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I'll tell ya, if the Right tries to go after masturbation, they're gonna cut themselves off at the knees.
I can see the bumpersticker now:
"If you want my dick, you'll have to pry it out of my cold, dead hands."
Philalethes |
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I'll tell ya, if the Right tries to go after masturbation, they're gonna cut themselves off at the knees.
I can see the bumpersticker now:
"If you want my dick, you'll have to pry it out of my cold, dead hands."
Philalethes |
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I read an article a number of years ago about a female Catholic theologian who argued that sex (within its proper milieu, natch) was God's gift to humanity, that orgasm was proof of a benevolent deity, and furthermore that orgasm was as close as we could get to heaven on earth.
But Catholic, like I said, and so part of that whole Whore of Babylon crowd.
NYMary |
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I read an article a number of years ago about a female Catholic theologian who argued that sex (within its proper milieu, natch) was God's gift to humanity, that orgasm was proof of a benevolent deity, and furthermore that orgasm was as close as we could get to heaven on earth.
But Catholic, like I said, and so part of that whole Whore of Babylon crowd.
NYMary |
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Since no one has said it yet, let me note that the real problem here is neurototoxins.
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Since no one has said it yet, let me note that the real problem here is neurototoxins.
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these are only pornographic program related activities.
no real blonde bombshells.
no throbbing nuclear torpedo's.
no real warheads.
but you're thinking about them so we can invade our own country.
Sure! That was Saddam's problem, too. He "lusted in his heart" after WMD. We had to invade to stop him from jerking off over the idea of having nukes.
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these are only pornographic program related activities.
no real blonde bombshells.
no throbbing nuclear torpedo's.
no real warheads.
but you're thinking about them so we can invade our own country.
Sure! That was Saddam's problem, too. He "lusted in his heart" after WMD. We had to invade to stop him from jerking off over the idea of having nukes.
Philalethes |
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11.19.04 - 7:50 pm | #
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What's that Woody Allen line in
Manhattan; "All my orgasms have been
right on the money."
Makes sense to me....
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What's that Woody Allen line in
Manhattan; "All my orgasms have been
right on the money."
Makes sense to me....
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What next? Erototerrorism?
George Johnston
Yes! Beware the porn bombs!
I remember when Rove tried to bring that term into public discourse. The more things change..
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What next? Erototerrorism?
George Johnston
Yes! Beware the porn bombs!
I remember when Rove tried to bring that term into public discourse. The more things change..
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we can still become the morality party just by framing our own principles in a different way...
ex:
We are pro-choice because we want women to be safe when they get abortions, and we want abortions to be more rare. Our policies work towarrds that goal.
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Seriously, though, can anyone imagine the troll problem we'd have around here if it weren't for Internet porn? We'd be lucky to get a word in edgewise.
Philalethes |
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we can still become the morality party just by framing our own principles in a different way...
ex:
We are pro-choice because we want women to be safe when they get abortions, and we want abortions to be more rare. Our policies work towarrds that goal.
ken m |
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Seriously, though, can anyone imagine the troll problem we'd have around here if it weren't for Internet porn? We'd be lucky to get a word in edgewise.
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"If you want my dick, you'll have to pry it out of my cold, dead hands."
Since no one has said it yet, let me note that the real problem here is neurototoxins.
We have our winners.
Jen, might I suggest neurotitoxins.
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"If you want my dick, you'll have to pry it out of my cold, dead hands."
Since no one has said it yet, let me note that the real problem here is neurototoxins.
We have our winners.
Jen, might I suggest neurotitoxins.
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Wow, talk of these erototoxins makes my modest clothing itch.
I might be enticed to have sex without procreating.
Then I might actually think for myself!
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Wow, talk of these erototoxins makes my modest clothing itch.
I might be enticed to have sex without procreating.
Then I might actually think for myself!
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I read an article a number of years ago about a female Catholic theologian who argued that sex (within its proper milieu, natch) was God's gift to humanity, that orgasm was proof of a benevolent deity, and furthermore that orgasm was as close as we could get to heaven on earth.
Less formally and implicitly (and with, perhaps, a somewhat broader interpretation of its "proper milieu" than the institutional heirarchy would usually embrace), the same message is not uncommon in the writings of Fr. Andrew M. Greeley, Catholic priest, sociologist, and fiction author.
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I read an article a number of years ago about a female Catholic theologian who argued that sex (within its proper milieu, natch) was God's gift to humanity, that orgasm was proof of a benevolent deity, and furthermore that orgasm was as close as we could get to heaven on earth.
Less formally and implicitly (and with, perhaps, a somewhat broader interpretation of its "proper milieu" than the institutional heirarchy would usually embrace), the same message is not uncommon in the writings of Fr. Andrew M. Greeley, Catholic priest, sociologist, and fiction author.
cmdicely |
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"Man Date" update for 11/19/04
(use as needed for troll repellant!)
margin: 2.80% (DOWN again from yesterday! woo hoo, it's FUN to watch it shrivel up!)
every day, with each vote counted, that "big" ole' Man Date just keeps on shrinking up (maybe the fall weather is too cold for it? W is suffering from "shrinkage"?)
Kerry: 57,575,777 (48.12% and rising)
Bush: 60,932,091 (50.92% and falling)
others: 1,153,060 (.96% holding firm)
58,728,837 Americans actively & successfully cast a vote AGAINST George W. Bush, and were lucky enough to get that vote accurately counted. so far.
turnout: 54.9% of VAP (76.8% of those who registered...)
for perspective, since 1968, Richard Nixon's 2nd term run still kicks W's in the ass (60.67% of a 55.2% turnout of VAP, so no records being set there!)
as for top winners of the popular vote, W is now UNDER the % his daddy got, and getting into Jimmy Carter territory. and this for a sitting President, absent any public media scandals, in "WAR TIME"?! yeesh! my three legged dog coulda' done better than that--and he can't hack a Diebold machine to save his life! how sad.
George W. Bush--getting LESS popular than Nixon, every day.
-L.
facts here:
http://tinyurl.com/5vql7
county by county Sea of Purple Tena's map here:
http://tinyurl.com/54f59
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DISCLAIMER FOR PAUL:
this in no way implies that i don't believe there was significant voter suppression & other nastiness, nor does it imply that i believe there were no "glitches" or even maybe outright theft of votes during "counting", nor does it imply that this is "over"--we are still fighting for a fair count, everyone should keep doing that!
blackboxvoting.org
www.votecobb.org
www.truthout.org
(ducking now!)
Librarian |
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"Man Date" update for 11/19/04
(use as needed for troll repellant!)
margin: 2.80% (DOWN again from yesterday! woo hoo, it's FUN to watch it shrivel up!)
every day, with each vote counted, that "big" ole' Man Date just keeps on shrinking up (maybe the fall weather is too cold for it? W is suffering from "shrinkage"?)
Kerry: 57,575,777 (48.12% and rising)
Bush: 60,932,091 (50.92% and falling)
others: 1,153,060 (.96% holding firm)
58,728,837 Americans actively & successfully cast a vote AGAINST George W. Bush, and were lucky enough to get that vote accurately counted. so far.
turnout: 54.9% of VAP (76.8% of those who registered...)
for perspective, since 1968, Richard Nixon's 2nd term run still kicks W's in the ass (60.67% of a 55.2% turnout of VAP, so no records being set there!)
as for top winners of the popular vote, W is now UNDER the % his daddy got, and getting into Jimmy Carter territory. and this for a sitting President, absent any public media scandals, in "WAR TIME"?! yeesh! my three legged dog coulda' done better than that--and he can't hack a Diebold machine to save his life! how sad.
George W. Bush--getting LESS popular than Nixon, every day.
-L.
facts here:
http://tinyurl.com/5vql7
county by county Sea of Purple Tena's map here:
http://tinyurl.com/54f59
*
DISCLAIMER FOR PAUL:
this in no way implies that i don't believe there was significant voter suppression & other nastiness, nor does it imply that i believe there were no "glitches" or even maybe outright theft of votes during "counting", nor does it imply that this is "over"--we are still fighting for a fair count, everyone should keep doing that!
blackboxvoting.org
www.votecobb.org
www.truthout.org
(ducking now!)
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Seriously, though, can anyone imagine the troll problem we'd have around here if it weren't for Internet porn?
Really? You think the trolls would cough up the cash for internet access in such a world?
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Seriously, though, can anyone imagine the troll problem we'd have around here if it weren't for Internet porn?
Really? You think the trolls would cough up the cash for internet access in such a world?
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One point no one here has addressed is that regular sexual activity is necessary for the health of the prostate gland - often men who have prostate inflammation are told to masturbate a few times a day.
Oh, Yassss.
What you have here is the old Western religion approach to sex. If you choke your chicken, you'll go blind.
Of course, if you males out there follow said advice and yank one's crank multiple times daily, I recommend a good moisturizer before, during, and after said flagellation as the old member gets a mighty chafed with all that stimulation.
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One point no one here has addressed is that regular sexual activity is necessary for the health of the prostate gland - often men who have prostate inflammation are told to masturbate a few times a day.
Oh, Yassss.
What you have here is the old Western religion approach to sex. If you choke your chicken, you'll go blind.
Of course, if you males out there follow said advice and yank one's crank multiple times daily, I recommend a good moisturizer before, during, and after said flagellation as the old member gets a mighty chafed with all that stimulation.
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So porn is acceptable if inefficiently delivered? Have these morons ever been to real sticks like Newfoundland or Utah or Nevada? Picture a fucking trailer or massive building every few miles, easily the most common building in the streches of nowhere, with huge fluorescent signs proclaiming Adult Relaxation. You drive out to these out-of-the-way stores and find all kinds of filth. More common, bigger and better stocked than the grocer's.
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So porn is acceptable if inefficiently delivered? Have these morons ever been to real sticks like Newfoundland or Utah or Nevada? Picture a fucking trailer or massive building every few miles, easily the most common building in the streches of nowhere, with huge fluorescent signs proclaiming Adult Relaxation. You drive out to these out-of-the-way stores and find all kinds of filth. More common, bigger and better stocked than the grocer's.
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Really? You think the trolls would cough up the cash for internet access in such a world?
cmdicely
Hmmm. You have a very good point.
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Really? You think the trolls would cough up the cash for internet access in such a world?
cmdicely
Hmmm. You have a very good point.
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"Joseph and the Pharoh's wife"
People, that's *Potiphar's* wife. Potiphar was a senior official of the pharaoh.
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"Joseph and the Pharoh's wife"
People, that's *Potiphar's* wife. Potiphar was a senior official of the pharaoh.
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Who said that ignorant nonsense about paying for internet porn? Yeah a lot of sites charge, but you should be able to get by with a little searching; there's a lot of free stuff out there.
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Who said that ignorant nonsense about paying for internet porn? Yeah a lot of sites charge, but you should be able to get by with a little searching; there's a lot of free stuff out there.
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Picture a fucking trailer or massive building every few miles, easily the most common building in the streches of nowhere, with huge fluorescent signs proclaiming Adult Relaxation. You drive out to these out-of-the-way stores and find all kinds of filth. More common, bigger and better stocked than the grocer's.
That's no joke. And they also tend to serve as the loci for swinging, prostitution, anonymous sodomy, and God knows what all. The South and West are full of those things...the average Wal-Mart or McDonald's is a thousand times more discreet.
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Picture a fucking trailer or massive building every few miles, easily the most common building in the streches of nowhere, with huge fluorescent signs proclaiming Adult Relaxation. You drive out to these out-of-the-way stores and find all kinds of filth. More common, bigger and better stocked than the grocer's.
That's no joke. And they also tend to serve as the loci for swinging, prostitution, anonymous sodomy, and God knows what all. The South and West are full of those things...the average Wal-Mart or McDonald's is a thousand times more discreet.
Philalethes |
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Who said that ignorant nonsense about paying for internet porn? Yeah a lot of sites charge, but you should be able to get by with a little searching; there's a lot of free stuff out there.
The question was, "Would trolls even bother paying for Internet access if there were no porn on the Internet?"
Philalethes |
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Who said that ignorant nonsense about paying for internet porn? Yeah a lot of sites charge, but you should be able to get by with a little searching; there's a lot of free stuff out there.
The question was, "Would trolls even bother paying for Internet access if there were no porn on the Internet?"
Philalethes |
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Question:
The wingnuts who got so bent out of shape about Nicolette Sheridan's dropping her towell for Terrel Owens.
What were they titilated by? Nicolette Sheridan's breats or Terrel Owen's big bl......
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Question:
The wingnuts who got so bent out of shape about Nicolette Sheridan's dropping her towell for Terrel Owens.
What were they titilated by? Nicolette Sheridan's breats or Terrel Owen's big bl......
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sn't Sen. Brownback's name just begging to be "santorum-ized"????
brownback - to have unprotected anal sex before fecal matter is cleared from the rectum.
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sn't Sen. Brownback's name just begging to be "santorum-ized"????
brownback - to have unprotected anal sex before fecal matter is cleared from the rectum.
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oh.
but they're all libertarian tax cheat experts, they're probably writing off asccess as a small business asset.
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oh.
but they're all libertarian tax cheat experts, they're probably writing off asccess as a small business asset.
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testing, testing...Vicki, if you're there, I'm using Internet Explorer.
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testing, testing...Vicki, if you're there, I'm using Internet Explorer.
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brownback - to have unprotected anal sex before fecal matter is cleared from the rectum.
If I were the Senator I would consider a name change. Maybe Sen. Hershey Highway or Sen. Dukey Chute?
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brownback - to have unprotected anal sex before fecal matter is cleared from the rectum.
If I were the Senator I would consider a name change. Maybe Sen. Hershey Highway or Sen. Dukey Chute?
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The internets is the most dangerous tool Satan's created since the Sears catalog.
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The internets is the most dangerous tool Satan's created since the Sears catalog.
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BTW. Re: That story about Jenna and not Jenna being refused service in a NYC restaurant.
That's not creative thinking.
What are the odds that someone could get Jenna drunk and film it a la Paris Hilton?
Do the Secret Service keep tabs on this sort of thing?
I guarantee you it would be the most downloaded video in the history of the Internets .
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BTW. Re: That story about Jenna and not Jenna being refused service in a NYC restaurant.
That's not creative thinking.
What are the odds that someone could get Jenna drunk and film it a la Paris Hilton?
Do the Secret Service keep tabs on this sort of thing?
I guarantee you it would be the most downloaded video in the history of the Internets .
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Okay. Let's start targeting these fuckers for mid-term defeat. Erototoxins? WTF?!
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Okay. Let's start targeting these fuckers for mid-term defeat. Erototoxins? WTF?!
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Signing off for now, but Vicki Stein, you're a life saver!!!
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Signing off for now, but Vicki Stein, you're a life saver!!!
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oh.
but they're all libertarian tax cheat experts, they're probably writing off asccess as a small business asset.
Sure. Along with medicated Hemorrhoidal pads, slurpees, and Slim Jims.
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oh.
but they're all libertarian tax cheat experts, they're probably writing off asccess as a small business asset.
Sure. Along with medicated Hemorrhoidal pads, slurpees, and Slim Jims.
Philalethes |
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brownback - to have unprotected anal sex before fecal matter is cleared from the rectum.
-coulter - to have unprotected anal sex before fecal matter is cleared from one's mouth.
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brownback - to have unprotected anal sex before fecal matter is cleared from the rectum.
-coulter - to have unprotected anal sex before fecal matter is cleared from one's mouth.
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" often men who have prostate inflammation are told to masturbate a few times a day."
The wife and I were working in the shop and listening to NPR. They did a story about how regular ejaculation lowers the risk of prostate cancer...the theory being that toxins are regularly drained so they can't do as much damage.
I winked at the wife. She smiled....
Until they said that the threshold for lower risk was about 40 ejaculates a month.
Guess I'm on my own..
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" often men who have prostate inflammation are told to masturbate a few times a day."
The wife and I were working in the shop and listening to NPR. They did a story about how regular ejaculation lowers the risk of prostate cancer...the theory being that toxins are regularly drained so they can't do as much damage.
I winked at the wife. She smiled....
Until they said that the threshold for lower risk was about 40 ejaculates a month.
Guess I'm on my own..
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Let's start targeting these fuckers for mid-term defeat.
Monica, you talked me into it!
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Let's start targeting these fuckers for mid-term defeat.
Monica, you talked me into it!
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Do you have any film of you and Nixon doing the act?
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Do you have any film of you and Nixon doing the act?
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lower risk was about 40 ejaculates a month.
jdw-The would have been a hell of a scientific study to be in.
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lower risk was about 40 ejaculates a month.
jdw-The would have been a hell of a scientific study to be in.
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" often men who have prostate inflammation are told to masturbate a few times a day."
I have an insight into this...but I suddenly realize that I don't want to talk about it.
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" often men who have prostate inflammation are told to masturbate a few times a day."
I have an insight into this...but I suddenly realize that I don't want to talk about it.
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