I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Hi Mom! Happy birthday!
Hi Mom! Happy birthday!
Someone! happy birthday!
Someone! happy birthday!
Just in time.
Just in time.
Hi.
Hi.
It's like a front yard full of newly-fallen snow.
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It's like a front yard full of newly-fallen snow.
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maybe someone can summarize for me the meaning of the past few weeks of spitzer et al vs insurance and brokers?
maybe someone can summarize for me the meaning of the past few weeks of spitzer et al vs insurance and brokers?
maybe someone can summarize for me the meaning of the past few weeks of spitzer et al vs insurance and brokers?
The insurance companies were colluding and fixing their prices. They pretended to compete with each other but they set a price that they wouldn't go below.
maybe someone can summarize for me the meaning of the past few weeks of spitzer et al vs insurance and brokers?
The insurance companies were colluding and fixing their prices. They pretended to compete with each other but they set a price that they wouldn't go below.
Jeepers H. Christmas.
Welcome home, Duncan. 'Bout time. Kidding, of course.
Jeepers H. Christmas.
Welcome home, Duncan. 'Bout time. Kidding, of course.
MisterX,
What did you do for your mamma today? Serious.
MisterX,
What did you do for your mamma today? Serious.
I seem to be getting a lot of things bouncing off my firewall lately. Not trying to be an alarmist, but wonder if they might be coming through haloscan.com. They seem to come in shortly after I open up a comments window. Anybody else with ZoneAlarm noticing this sort of thing?
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I seem to be getting a lot of things bouncing off my firewall lately. Not trying to be an alarmist, but wonder if they might be coming through haloscan.com. They seem to come in shortly after I open up a comments window. Anybody else with ZoneAlarm noticing this sort of thing?
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Try using an anonymous proxy, FM.
Try using an anonymous proxy, FM.
Fielding Mellish
Do you have a hardware router with firewall capabilities?
It will stop the majority of those type of hits. It is also a good second layer of protection.
Fielding Mellish
Do you have a hardware router with firewall capabilities?
It will stop the majority of those type of hits. It is also a good second layer of protection.
FM, think you're being watched? Odds are you are.
You know about Carnivore and Eschelon. Among the (I'm guessing) other classified data harvesting systems the government has we don't even know about...
Try visiting Al Jazeera or Hezbollah and watch your firewall light up like a menorah.
FM, think you're being watched? Odds are you are.
You know about Carnivore and Eschelon. Among the (I'm guessing) other classified data harvesting systems the government has we don't even know about...
Try visiting Al Jazeera or Hezbollah and watch your firewall light up like a menorah.
What did you do for your mamma today? Serious.
bigvic
Well, little MasterX drew a picture he calls "Mom, Dad, Max and Laney Under the Red Maple Tree All Saying Happy Birthday to Oma" which I scanned and then worked into a email card which was sent off to Mom and Pop in Florida. I had previously sent her some fine German tinned herring in various sauces and a fat jar of Lingonberries, which she enjoys for some reason... Later in the day we all "conference-called" her and sang a horribly out of tune but well-intentioned round of "Happy Birthday". She is a mere 70 years old and is quite inspiring.
(She also grew up in Nazi Germany and roundly detests the current administration.)
What did you do for your mamma today? Serious.
bigvic
Well, little MasterX drew a picture he calls "Mom, Dad, Max and Laney Under the Red Maple Tree All Saying Happy Birthday to Oma" which I scanned and then worked into a email card which was sent off to Mom and Pop in Florida. I had previously sent her some fine German tinned herring in various sauces and a fat jar of Lingonberries, which she enjoys for some reason... Later in the day we all "conference-called" her and sang a horribly out of tune but well-intentioned round of "Happy Birthday". She is a mere 70 years old and is quite inspiring.
(She also grew up in Nazi Germany and roundly detests the current administration.)
Thanks EkCenTrik and Old Hat. Gonna try to switch over to AP, should have done it long ago. Wonder how many of us are on watch lists? Of course, they'll "never" use them for anything...
Yours in paranoia.
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Thanks EkCenTrik and Old Hat. Gonna try to switch over to AP, should have done it long ago. Wonder how many of us are on watch lists? Of course, they'll "never" use them for anything...
Yours in paranoia.
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Oh yes. I love these threads. 
Oh yes. I love these threads.
Wonder how many of us are on watch lists?
I don't think it's individuals who are on these watch lists but large groups of people. They're not after Joe Schmoe, they're looking for patterns in the mounds of data they collect, trying to refine their algorithms, their regression analyses, etc.
As long as your name isn't Ali or Mohammed and you don't donate money to Islamic charities, I don't think you have too much to worry about. Yet.
But you can bet all of our IPs have been logged and stored in some database somewhere at one point or another for visiting verboten websites and using flagged words in our e-mails.
Wonder how many of us are on watch lists?
I don't think it's individuals who are on these watch lists but large groups of people. They're not after Joe Schmoe, they're looking for patterns in the mounds of data they collect, trying to refine their algorithms, their regression analyses, etc.
As long as your name isn't Ali or Mohammed and you don't donate money to Islamic charities, I don't think you have too much to worry about. Yet.
But you can bet all of our IPs have been logged and stored in some database somewhere at one point or another for visiting verboten websites and using flagged words in our e-mails.
Show of hands: how many of you are still Democrats?
Tally will be posted at end of chat.
Buster
Show of hands: how many of you are still Democrats?
Tally will be posted at end of chat.
Buster
Today was also Senator Byrd's birthday.
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Today was also Senator Byrd's birthday.
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Thanks EkCenTrik and Old Hat. Gonna try to switch over to AP, should have done it long ago. Wonder how many of us are on watch lists? Of course, they'll "never" use them for anything...
What is "AP"? Seriously....
Buster
Thanks EkCenTrik and Old Hat. Gonna try to switch over to AP, should have done it long ago. Wonder how many of us are on watch lists? Of course, they'll "never" use them for anything...
What is "AP"? Seriously....
Buster
Buster, why don't you instead take a poll of how immature you can be in a ten minute period.
Listen carefully now:
THERE IS NO ALTERNATIVE.
Did you hear?
Unless you're planning on inviting more than 100 million people to live on your private island, we have to work with what we've got, as usual.
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Buster, why don't you instead take a poll of how immature you can be in a ten minute period.
Listen carefully now:
THERE IS NO ALTERNATIVE.
Did you hear?
Unless you're planning on inviting more than 100 million people to live on your private island, we have to work with what we've got, as usual.
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I've been following the issue at WUNC (public radio) where they would not allow the use of the phrase "reproductive rights" on the air. Seems they won't budge, and Ipas has removed its underwriting.
I've been following the issue at WUNC (public radio) where they would not allow the use of the phrase "reproductive rights" on the air. Seems they won't budge, and Ipas has removed its underwriting.
I notice that my senator Dick Durbin was doing a fine job of pointing out the stink bombs the other party tucked into the omnibus bill and mobilizing the forces to block it. Good work, Minority Whip Durbin! I sent him an e-attaboy; you can too. Click homepage to get there.
I notice that my senator Dick Durbin was doing a fine job of pointing out the stink bombs the other party tucked into the omnibus bill and mobilizing the forces to block it. Good work, Minority Whip Durbin! I sent him an e-attaboy; you can too. Click homepage to get there.
Buster - AP = Anonymous Proxy, and yes I'm still a Democrat.
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Buster - AP = Anonymous Proxy, and yes I'm still a Democrat.
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"Within 48 hours of their arrival in Baghdad in April, some of Chalabi's men, including members of his personal bodyguard force, began taking cars, bank accounts and real estate, said a senior military officer who received reports of the events."
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"Within 48 hours of their arrival in Baghdad in April, some of Chalabi's men, including members of his personal bodyguard force, began taking cars, bank accounts and real estate, said a senior military officer who received reports of the events."
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Here I am, blogwhoring again.
Actually, the term is called advertising. I don't post as often as Atrios does, for reasons of time, and it's hard to bring attention to my site (why else do you write a blog except for people to read it?), so I use the comments section here, which brings my traffic up, and a few more people become regular readers.
I don't know how Atrios and Kos made the transition from 100 hits a day or so to thousands, but certainly no one is going to go on my site if they don't know it exists. And since neither Atrios or Kos or anyone else in that range has me as a regular link, I do what I can to draw some attention to myself.
So if it seems to some of you out there like I'm "whoring", I'm sorry, but hey you do what you can. At least I never post anonymously...
Have A Nice, Hot Cup O' Joe!
Here I am, blogwhoring again.
Actually, the term is called advertising. I don't post as often as Atrios does, for reasons of time, and it's hard to bring attention to my site (why else do you write a blog except for people to read it?), so I use the comments section here, which brings my traffic up, and a few more people become regular readers.
I don't know how Atrios and Kos made the transition from 100 hits a day or so to thousands, but certainly no one is going to go on my site if they don't know it exists. And since neither Atrios or Kos or anyone else in that range has me as a regular link, I do what I can to draw some attention to myself.
So if it seems to some of you out there like I'm "whoring", I'm sorry, but hey you do what you can. At least I never post anonymously...
Have A Nice, Hot Cup O' Joe!
man, i could go for some herring and lingonberries.
man, i could go for some herring and lingonberries.
"In the first weeks of 2003, as war appeared inevitable, it began to dawn on many officials throughout the government that the United States was unprepared to stabilize and rebuild Iraq after Saddam was defeated."
Combined with what we now know has gone missing (including 4,000 shoulder-fired missiles, 650,000 pounds of ammo, and 380 tons of high-explosives) we have a solid impeachment case against ALL Iraq war planners in the administration.
They whittled down the forces until force protection itself was impossible, and then allowed our unarmored boys to be picked off, unarmored Humvee by unarmored Humvee.
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"In the first weeks of 2003, as war appeared inevitable, it began to dawn on many officials throughout the government that the United States was unprepared to stabilize and rebuild Iraq after Saddam was defeated."
Combined with what we now know has gone missing (including 4,000 shoulder-fired missiles, 650,000 pounds of ammo, and 380 tons of high-explosives) we have a solid impeachment case against ALL Iraq war planners in the administration.
They whittled down the forces until force protection itself was impossible, and then allowed our unarmored boys to be picked off, unarmored Humvee by unarmored Humvee.
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i don't know why people complain about blogwhoring anyway. doesn't make sense to me.
i don't know why people complain about blogwhoring anyway. doesn't make sense to me.
Please forgive my ignorance, but I don't understand what possible "logical" explanation the repubs could give, for the record, as to why they inserted this provision. I mean, even as a mistake, well, what were they thinking? Can anyone enlighten me?
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Please forgive my ignorance, but I don't understand what possible "logical" explanation the repubs could give, for the record, as to why they inserted this provision. I mean, even as a mistake, well, what were they thinking? Can anyone enlighten me?
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i think they blamed it on their staffers.
i think they blamed it on their staffers.
"Here I am, blogwhoring again. Actually, the term is called advertising."
No, it's not, unless you're selling a product you are profiting from. Using that term might get you bounced from this blog.
My only advice is that instead of the cutesy cup of Joe bit, you include some sort of reference that the link goes to your blog.
Personally, if you would post some informative tidbit that you had just written about, along with a link for 'more,' that would be more satisfactory than just the 'visit me, I'm lonely' tone of what you're doing.
You should also not do that on every thread, but choose one post, once a day, or something.
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"Here I am, blogwhoring again. Actually, the term is called advertising."
No, it's not, unless you're selling a product you are profiting from. Using that term might get you bounced from this blog.
My only advice is that instead of the cutesy cup of Joe bit, you include some sort of reference that the link goes to your blog.
Personally, if you would post some informative tidbit that you had just written about, along with a link for 'more,' that would be more satisfactory than just the 'visit me, I'm lonely' tone of what you're doing.
You should also not do that on every thread, but choose one post, once a day, or something.
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"i don't know why people complain about blogwhoring anyway. doesn't make sense to me.
Olaf glad and big"
It's simple enough. Atrios is frequented because people trust atrios on some level. Links, especially blind links, to other blogs distracts, clutters, and potentially links atriosans to some other content and perspective that may be outright hostile to our causes.
I personally am offended when I follow a link that goes to a blog, instead of to specific content that I need to know in order to process the shit storm further.
As for why the Senate Rs are lying sacks of shit, contact your local priest for an explanation of My God Doesn't Give A Flying Fuck About What Happens Down Here.
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"i don't know why people complain about blogwhoring anyway. doesn't make sense to me.
Olaf glad and big"
It's simple enough. Atrios is frequented because people trust atrios on some level. Links, especially blind links, to other blogs distracts, clutters, and potentially links atriosans to some other content and perspective that may be outright hostile to our causes.
I personally am offended when I follow a link that goes to a blog, instead of to specific content that I need to know in order to process the shit storm further.
As for why the Senate Rs are lying sacks of shit, contact your local priest for an explanation of My God Doesn't Give A Flying Fuck About What Happens Down Here.
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That was so sweet, MisterX! Thanks for sharing!
That was so sweet, MisterX! Thanks for sharing!
Um, I think "Atrios and Kos made the transition from 100 hits a day or so to thousands" by having something interesting to say. Word gets around. I personally don't mind if you have something to say, and then post your blog address. If you have something interesting to say, folks can follow the link back to your blog to get more of the same. Throwing up a billboard for your blog without comment or anything for context makes me roll my eyes and skip right over you, as I do for "melanie".
That being said, this is JUST MY PERSONAL OPINION. This is not my blog, and I don't make the rules. (Thats up to the Kings and Queens of Eschaton, apparently.)
Remember, this is just one poster's opinion.
Um, I think "Atrios and Kos made the transition from 100 hits a day or so to thousands" by having something interesting to say. Word gets around. I personally don't mind if you have something to say, and then post your blog address. If you have something interesting to say, folks can follow the link back to your blog to get more of the same. Throwing up a billboard for your blog without comment or anything for context makes me roll my eyes and skip right over you, as I do for "melanie".
That being said, this is JUST MY PERSONAL OPINION. This is not my blog, and I don't make the rules. (Thats up to the Kings and Queens of Eschaton, apparently.)
Remember, this is just one poster's opinion.
my opinion, blogwhoring is perfectly acceptable. i don't know if joe's blog is any good or not because i never checked. just because there's a link doesn't mean you have to follow it. people should just relax.
my opinion, blogwhoring is perfectly acceptable. i don't know if joe's blog is any good or not because i never checked. just because there's a link doesn't mean you have to follow it. people should just relax.
Thanks for sharing!
Charlotte Smith (nee Beavers)
Well, thank you. I love my Mom and Dad very much, and I am trying to instill the values they taught me into my children.
But not the lingonberries. Those things make my tongue curl. My saliva glands are cranking right now just thinking about them...
Bonus: They both will be up North in two weeks and word on the street is that Opa found a couple of beach kites at a yard sale! MasterX is very excited.
Thanks for sharing!
Charlotte Smith (nee Beavers)
Well, thank you. I love my Mom and Dad very much, and I am trying to instill the values they taught me into my children.
But not the lingonberries. Those things make my tongue curl. My saliva glands are cranking right now just thinking about them...
Bonus: They both will be up North in two weeks and word on the street is that Opa found a couple of beach kites at a yard sale! MasterX is very excited.
To spread our memes and frames, we need a distribution system. We could spend decades building up a counter to the GOP talk-radio, faux news, thinktank trifecta or...
We can do it now.
Operation: Red Illumination
Join the Resistance.
To spread our memes and frames, we need a distribution system. We could spend decades building up a counter to the GOP talk-radio, faux news, thinktank trifecta or...
We can do it now.
Operation: Red Illumination
Join the Resistance.
Well, anyhow, it is good to tell others where the link goes, because a major reason for reading a good blog is getting the leads to Didya hear? stories.
I suspect Bush will begin the second phase of his Too Ugly to Appear on TV Makeover.
Expect buboes, nose-warts, a rheumy eye, forehead flab, a nasty habit of flickering his tongue while talking, and clear signs that he doesn't wash after ramming his head up Rove's arse.
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Well, anyhow, it is good to tell others where the link goes, because a major reason for reading a good blog is getting the leads to Didya hear? stories.
I suspect Bush will begin the second phase of his Too Ugly to Appear on TV Makeover.
Expect buboes, nose-warts, a rheumy eye, forehead flab, a nasty habit of flickering his tongue while talking, and clear signs that he doesn't wash after ramming his head up Rove's arse.
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posting about lingonberries will definitely get you on the watchlist.
if snarking is a crime, then i'm guilty as charged. you'll never take me alive, coppers!!
posting about lingonberries will definitely get you on the watchlist.
if snarking is a crime, then i'm guilty as charged. you'll never take me alive, coppers!!
people should just relax.
Olaf glad and big
Don't make me get out the "Blogwhore Haiku"... or the lingonberries! 
people should just relax.
Olaf glad and big
Don't make me get out the "Blogwhore Haiku"... or the lingonberries!
"expect buboes, nose warts. . ."
there is definitely something wrong with bush. he is not healthy. i doubt he survives his second term.
"expect buboes, nose warts. . ."
there is definitely something wrong with bush. he is not healthy. i doubt he survives his second term.
I got this one guy who comes by my Fed Building/Nat'l Cemetary vigil who likes to brag and strut about how marvelous he is for being a traitor.
I'm at an age (in both protest and life) where I just don't give a flea's fingernails for animalistic oneupsmanship, reproductive sex-marking man-on-man displays, or chest-thumping.
Bush looks like something has gone WAY rancid in him. Expect worms to crawl from his ears, and his face to suddenly collapse like a Bosch painting.
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I got this one guy who comes by my Fed Building/Nat'l Cemetary vigil who likes to brag and strut about how marvelous he is for being a traitor.
I'm at an age (in both protest and life) where I just don't give a flea's fingernails for animalistic oneupsmanship, reproductive sex-marking man-on-man displays, or chest-thumping.
Bush looks like something has gone WAY rancid in him. Expect worms to crawl from his ears, and his face to suddenly collapse like a Bosch painting.
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Since no one has mentioned it:
Commons motion to impeach Blair gets go-ahead
David Hencke | London | November 19
Guardian - The parliamentary motion to impeach Tony Blair for "gross misconduct" over the war against Iraq will be published next Wednesday, the day after the Queen's speech.
It will be the first to be tabled in 198 years.
http://tinyurl.com/6smqk
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Since no one has mentioned it:
Commons motion to impeach Blair gets go-ahead
David Hencke | London | November 19
Guardian - The parliamentary motion to impeach Tony Blair for "gross misconduct" over the war against Iraq will be published next Wednesday, the day after the Queen's speech.
It will be the first to be tabled in 198 years.
http://tinyurl.com/6smqk
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I haven't watched SNL for quite some time, but tuned in briefly tonight. What a piece of shit. When did it get so lame?
I haven't watched SNL for quite some time, but tuned in briefly tonight. What a piece of shit. When did it get so lame?
oh, God, what a relief! Maybe someone will be held accountable!
oh, God, what a relief! Maybe someone will be held accountable!
I haven't watched SNL for quite some time, but tuned in briefly tonight. What a piece of shit. When did it get so lame?
I think they had a major change in writing staff a few years back. It's been going downhill ever since. Tina Fey comes up with a few good ones, but she falls flat more than she really nails it, and there aren't, to my understanding, very much talent to back her up. All the good writers work on the Daily Show
I haven't watched SNL for quite some time, but tuned in briefly tonight. What a piece of shit. When did it get so lame?
I think they had a major change in writing staff a few years back. It's been going downhill ever since. Tina Fey comes up with a few good ones, but she falls flat more than she really nails it, and there aren't, to my understanding, very much talent to back her up. All the good writers work on the Daily Show
The British system is very weird, and it is almost impossible to remove a PM. Their Lords, of course, are actual Lords, after all.
This is for symbolic value, eh. I wouldn't advise taking the storm shutters off your heart for quite awhile.
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The British system is very weird, and it is almost impossible to remove a PM. Their Lords, of course, are actual Lords, after all.
This is for symbolic value, eh. I wouldn't advise taking the storm shutters off your heart for quite awhile.
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Didn't the Commons recently vote to ban hunting with hounds with some procedural gimmick to bypass Lords, which would vote to keep those hounds a-hunting (they're such anachronisms)? Good for the Commons.
Didn't the Commons recently vote to ban hunting with hounds with some procedural gimmick to bypass Lords, which would vote to keep those hounds a-hunting (they're such anachronisms)? Good for the Commons.
Vis a vis blog whoring, I think the reason Atrios is so successful is because of the unsurpassed community of commenters. I find the comments here utterly hilarious and insightful and uplifting. And how can you account for that? It's a tipping point thing. And, sure, Atrios has a true, clear voice. But, it's the comments.
Just saying.
Vis a vis blog whoring, I think the reason Atrios is so successful is because of the unsurpassed community of commenters. I find the comments here utterly hilarious and insightful and uplifting. And how can you account for that? It's a tipping point thing. And, sure, Atrios has a true, clear voice. But, it's the comments.
Just saying.
oh, I know. but I would be happy with some kind of formal censure, even if it's just the equivalent in England of introducing impeachemnt legislation.
oh, I know. but I would be happy with some kind of formal censure, even if it's just the equivalent in England of introducing impeachemnt legislation.
Hey! it's my birthday today. Scorpio!
Here are my b'day thoughts:
The ultra-conservatives are trying to create a religious civil war.
We are a young country. At only 225 years, we have only established the United States as a cultural origin hundreds of years after the solid foundation of societies in Europe and Asia. So in the older countries, especially in Europe, ethnic and religious clashes have festered longer over time. Here in America, we have been here too little a time to firmly entrench these stereotypes and prejudices upon each other. Thankfully, the civil rights movement helped to stem that course of intolerance.
Until now.
The extremist right wing that has taken control of the political landscape is blatantly using religious wedge issues to divide our nation and create hatred. Religious and ethnic wars are started by those with supposed religious authority when they begin proclaiming those outside of their religion as evil.
America is supposed to the big kettle of soup or whatever. We accept any and all religious practices. It is part of our foundation to not declare one religion more correct than another.
The warning signs are loud and clear. Not only has a cold civil war begun, but also a religious war. WE must stand on the side of peace and tolerance. WE must not counter their hatred with any similar venom. Be Gandhi, stand up for the oppressed.
And shame those who preach intolerance.
Hey! it's my birthday today. Scorpio!
Here are my b'day thoughts:
The ultra-conservatives are trying to create a religious civil war.
We are a young country. At only 225 years, we have only established the United States as a cultural origin hundreds of years after the solid foundation of societies in Europe and Asia. So in the older countries, especially in Europe, ethnic and religious clashes have festered longer over time. Here in America, we have been here too little a time to firmly entrench these stereotypes and prejudices upon each other. Thankfully, the civil rights movement helped to stem that course of intolerance.
Until now.
The extremist right wing that has taken control of the political landscape is blatantly using religious wedge issues to divide our nation and create hatred. Religious and ethnic wars are started by those with supposed religious authority when they begin proclaiming those outside of their religion as evil.
America is supposed to the big kettle of soup or whatever. We accept any and all religious practices. It is part of our foundation to not declare one religion more correct than another.
The warning signs are loud and clear. Not only has a cold civil war begun, but also a religious war. WE must stand on the side of peace and tolerance. WE must not counter their hatred with any similar venom. Be Gandhi, stand up for the oppressed.
And shame those who preach intolerance.
SNL has funny women and an army of faceless unfunny white guys. But it's always been hard for women to get stuff on the air there and now is no exception. Tina Fey is also the head writer so I'm not sure why this is still true. Maybe she doesn't support the other women. I have known many people who have worked there over the years and a couple who do now. Most become so isolated by the idiotic late night schedule (a throwback to the days of coke) that they come to believe the show isn't bad.
Althought the people I know there currently do think it's bad.
The show was never as good as people remember but you've got to go back a ways to find it as bad as it is now.
SNL has funny women and an army of faceless unfunny white guys. But it's always been hard for women to get stuff on the air there and now is no exception. Tina Fey is also the head writer so I'm not sure why this is still true. Maybe she doesn't support the other women. I have known many people who have worked there over the years and a couple who do now. Most become so isolated by the idiotic late night schedule (a throwback to the days of coke) that they come to believe the show isn't bad.
Althought the people I know there currently do think it's bad.
The show was never as good as people remember but you've got to go back a ways to find it as bad as it is now.
PS.
To the idea that all the good writers are at the Daily Show. Having written tons of good and bad comedy in my life I can say - it's a hell of a lot easier to get a newspaper delivered every day and watch cable news shows and then write jokes based on that material than to think up characters and sketches from thin air. Not that the Daily Show writers aren't good, but they do have an easier job.
PS.
To the idea that all the good writers are at the Daily Show. Having written tons of good and bad comedy in my life I can say - it's a hell of a lot easier to get a newspaper delivered every day and watch cable news shows and then write jokes based on that material than to think up characters and sketches from thin air. Not that the Daily Show writers aren't good, but they do have an easier job.
"oh, I know. but I would be happy with some kind of formal censure, even if it's just the equivalent in England of introducing impeachemnt legislation.
eh"
It's always possible; it's a weird system.
If you haven't read The Last Lion, vol. 2, the biography on Churchill in the 30s...wow, it has kept me sane for the last six months.
The end of the book deals with Chamberlain's sudden loss of power, at the same time as Hitler's invasion of France. AMAZING how long Chamberlain was enabled to continue.
At the same time, Blair has truly screwed the pooch with the public, and the Commons is not the Lords. I don't know enough about it by far to predict, but the ricos generally dictate affairs a bit better than the demos...I've noticed.
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"oh, I know. but I would be happy with some kind of formal censure, even if it's just the equivalent in England of introducing impeachemnt legislation.
eh"
It's always possible; it's a weird system.
If you haven't read The Last Lion, vol. 2, the biography on Churchill in the 30s...wow, it has kept me sane for the last six months.
The end of the book deals with Chamberlain's sudden loss of power, at the same time as Hitler's invasion of France. AMAZING how long Chamberlain was enabled to continue.
At the same time, Blair has truly screwed the pooch with the public, and the Commons is not the Lords. I don't know enough about it by far to predict, but the ricos generally dictate affairs a bit better than the demos...I've noticed.
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If you find the commentors here insightful, you might want to check out their own blogs. And to make it convenient for y'all I've set up The Eschatonians which provides 350 character summaries for a bunch of the blogs of commentors here including Philatheles and Thersites and Attaturk and Echidne and Backslider and I've added recently folks like Kent.
As for other interesting commentary, did anyone notice the team sitting behind Bush in Santiago while meeting with President Hu of China? McClellan, Powell, Armitage... and I think one more that I didn't catch.
Scottie is a replacement for a quitter and the other two are quitters as well. Baghdad Bush administration... they don't wait to be chased out by indictments. They leap off the cliff like lemmings all by themselves.
If you find the commentors here insightful, you might want to check out their own blogs. And to make it convenient for y'all I've set up The Eschatonians which provides 350 character summaries for a bunch of the blogs of commentors here including Philatheles and Thersites and Attaturk and Echidne and Backslider and I've added recently folks like Kent.
As for other interesting commentary, did anyone notice the team sitting behind Bush in Santiago while meeting with President Hu of China? McClellan, Powell, Armitage... and I think one more that I didn't catch.
Scottie is a replacement for a quitter and the other two are quitters as well. Baghdad Bush administration... they don't wait to be chased out by indictments. They leap off the cliff like lemmings all by themselves.
Steven Hadley is the mystery man in the photo. currently the Deputy National Security Adviser but isn't he supposed to replace Condi as head of NSA?
Not sure this photo from a wider angle gives more clues as to who is on Bush's sideline.
Here's one of President Hu with the HK Chief Executive, Mr. Tofu-for-Brains.
Steven Hadley is the mystery man in the photo. currently the Deputy National Security Adviser but isn't he supposed to replace Condi as head of NSA?
Not sure this photo from a wider angle gives more clues as to who is on Bush's sideline.
Here's one of President Hu with the HK Chief Executive, Mr. Tofu-for-Brains.
Good work, Tom.
Doesn't that just look like a happy room?
The representatives of billionaires, measuring their lips for the proper diameters.
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Good work, Tom.
Doesn't that just look like a happy room?
The representatives of billionaires, measuring their lips for the proper diameters.
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"and if my thought dreams could be seen
they'd probably put my head in a guillotine"
--bob dylan
it's no doubt for the best that we neither wonder nor fixate upon the interconnectednous of it all. such mishievous making monkeywrenching can only lead to an enhanced pariah status. here in nevada we're especially grateful that this brilliant plan to house 77000 tons of nuke waste on an active earthquake fault will only require one shipment every four hours, 365 days a year, for the next 24 years.
"and if my thought dreams could be seen
they'd probably put my head in a guillotine"
--bob dylan
it's no doubt for the best that we neither wonder nor fixate upon the interconnectednous of it all. such mishievous making monkeywrenching can only lead to an enhanced pariah status. here in nevada we're especially grateful that this brilliant plan to house 77000 tons of nuke waste on an active earthquake fault will only require one shipment every four hours, 365 days a year, for the next 24 years.
Saturday, November 20, 2004
Groups to attempt new Ohio election challenge
From today's Plain Dealer:
A trio of activist lawyers armed with mysteriously wrong exit polls and hundreds of voter horror stories announced plans Friday to contest Ohio's presidential election as soon as the vote is official.
Their challenge could lead to widespread reconsideration of dozens of alleged election irregularities around the state - from reported computerized voting glitches to provisional-ballot mishaps to unusual incidents involving voter rolls, poll workers and machine technicians.
Columbus attorney Cliff Arnebeck, a national officer in the Alliance for Democracy, could not predict exactly when members of the coalition will be ready or able to file their request. And, after they do, the Ohio Supreme Court would have to rule in their favor.
To qualify to reopen consideration of the election, Arnebeck said, the group needs find only 25 aggrieved electors and evidence of irregularities, both of which he and his associates have collected in abundance at hearings around the state, he said.
Another hearing is scheduled in Cleveland today.
Arnebeck said the national boards of the NAACP, Alliance for Democracy and Common Cause are reviewing requests to sign on to the litigation, which is not affiliated with either political party. . .
http://ohvotesuppression.blogspot.com/
(Thanks, Librarian. Good find.0
Saturday, November 20, 2004
Groups to attempt new Ohio election challenge
From today's Plain Dealer:
A trio of activist lawyers armed with mysteriously wrong exit polls and hundreds of voter horror stories announced plans Friday to contest Ohio's presidential election as soon as the vote is official.
Their challenge could lead to widespread reconsideration of dozens of alleged election irregularities around the state - from reported computerized voting glitches to provisional-ballot mishaps to unusual incidents involving voter rolls, poll workers and machine technicians.
Columbus attorney Cliff Arnebeck, a national officer in the Alliance for Democracy, could not predict exactly when members of the coalition will be ready or able to file their request. And, after they do, the Ohio Supreme Court would have to rule in their favor.
To qualify to reopen consideration of the election, Arnebeck said, the group needs find only 25 aggrieved electors and evidence of irregularities, both of which he and his associates have collected in abundance at hearings around the state, he said.
Another hearing is scheduled in Cleveland today.
Arnebeck said the national boards of the NAACP, Alliance for Democracy and Common Cause are reviewing requests to sign on to the litigation, which is not affiliated with either political party. . .
http://ohvotesuppression.blogspot.com/
(Thanks, Librarian. Good find.0
"77000 tons of nuke waste on an active earthquake fault will only require one shipment every four hours, 365 days a year, for the next 24 years."
Soon the I-40 will be aglow the trucks won't need headlights. Think of the gas savings!
The trains are an IMPOSSIBLE security problem, and everyone knows it.
The 1:100 "Irradiate Us All, Jesus" Prometheus shot that NASA is planning with the USPNAC is a real Nevada roll of the dice.
We don't manage to stop them, that radiation is going to be returned to the earth, in our bones.
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"77000 tons of nuke waste on an active earthquake fault will only require one shipment every four hours, 365 days a year, for the next 24 years."
Soon the I-40 will be aglow the trucks won't need headlights. Think of the gas savings!
The trains are an IMPOSSIBLE security problem, and everyone knows it.
The 1:100 "Irradiate Us All, Jesus" Prometheus shot that NASA is planning with the USPNAC is a real Nevada roll of the dice.
We don't manage to stop them, that radiation is going to be returned to the earth, in our bones.
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KG -
I don't know that I would characterize what is happening now as a cold cultural war, but I am feeling something bad happenin in this country all the way to my bones. We are divided in a way that we can't bring back together and no matter what side you are on in the last election - we definitely all know something real f****** happened - right now, Rove's "genius" has brought our country's spirit to its knees, and its future too I predict. We are in a sad sad way and its hard to know how to make it better anytime soon.
KG -
I don't know that I would characterize what is happening now as a cold cultural war, but I am feeling something bad happenin in this country all the way to my bones. We are divided in a way that we can't bring back together and no matter what side you are on in the last election - we definitely all know something real f****** happened - right now, Rove's "genius" has brought our country's spirit to its knees, and its future too I predict. We are in a sad sad way and its hard to know how to make it better anytime soon.
"We are divided in a way that we can't bring back together"
That's just not true. Kerry won by landslide.
We are in the middle of a coup, after a second stolen presidential election. MOST of voting America is outright horrified at what is going on.
Failed wars, crap economy, and open season on the environment are PROVEN election losers. Bush did not somehow turn his shiny red oragutang backside smile into legitimate power.
He's a thief, from the crib.
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"We are divided in a way that we can't bring back together"
That's just not true. Kerry won by landslide.
We are in the middle of a coup, after a second stolen presidential election. MOST of voting America is outright horrified at what is going on.
Failed wars, crap economy, and open season on the environment are PROVEN election losers. Bush did not somehow turn his shiny red oragutang backside smile into legitimate power.
He's a thief, from the crib.
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http://radioci.embaci.com/
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I find it odd that Furious George goes off to his biggest meeting of heads of state after a cabinet shuffle and Rice is nowhere to be seen. Also I don't see John Bolton in the photo either, though I might just be missing him.
Rice did visit China this last July, but it was without great effect. And Bolton is a known pain in the ass to the Chinese and North Koreans, so if he was absent, it was an honest sign of diplomacy.
I find it odd that Furious George goes off to his biggest meeting of heads of state after a cabinet shuffle and Rice is nowhere to be seen. Also I don't see John Bolton in the photo either, though I might just be missing him.
Rice did visit China this last July, but it was without great effect. And Bolton is a known pain in the ass to the Chinese and North Koreans, so if he was absent, it was an honest sign of diplomacy.
...Paul, do you actually think that Kerry winning would bring our country back together again just like that? I don't think so, sad to say. There has been tremendous and purposeful damage done to our sense of national community...it doesnt exist anymore, we are not all in this together and to add to it, are very suspicious of each other. Not a good recipe for a stable and optimistic population. I am not sure what will happen or what we are going to do...but that is what is the reality right now...
...Paul, do you actually think that Kerry winning would bring our country back together again just like that? I don't think so, sad to say. There has been tremendous and purposeful damage done to our sense of national community...it doesnt exist anymore, we are not all in this together and to add to it, are very suspicious of each other. Not a good recipe for a stable and optimistic population. I am not sure what will happen or what we are going to do...but that is what is the reality right now...
When did it get so lame?
About 1979.
When did it get so lame?
About 1979.
Links, especially blind links, to other blogs distracts, clutters, and potentially links atriosans to some other content and perspective that may be outright hostile to our causes.
Here's an idea: don't click on them.
Links, especially blind links, to other blogs distracts, clutters, and potentially links atriosans to some other content and perspective that may be outright hostile to our causes.
Here's an idea: don't click on them.
I find it odd that Furious George goes off to his biggest meeting of heads of state after a cabinet shuffle and Rice is nowhere to be seen.
Well, to be fair, she went in the hospital Friday for "women's" surgery and was released Sat. morn...
I find it odd that Furious George goes off to his biggest meeting of heads of state after a cabinet shuffle and Rice is nowhere to be seen.
Well, to be fair, she went in the hospital Friday for "women's" surgery and was released Sat. morn...
A bit of good news for all us America-hating leftists types:
Actually CNN.com headline :
"Rebellious Republicans Derail 9/11 Reform"(ed.)
If we can paint the Republicans as obstructionist(which they tend to do to each other,as well as us),then we can get those Republican piss-ants afraid of the election in 2006.
A bit of good news for all us America-hating leftists types:
Actually CNN.com headline :
"Rebellious Republicans Derail 9/11 Reform"(ed.)
If we can paint the Republicans as obstructionist(which they tend to do to each other,as well as us),then we can get those Republican piss-ants afraid of the election in 2006.
These excerpts from yesterday's Boston Globe.
WASHINGTON -- A state-of-the-art rehabilitation center opening next year at Walter Reed Army Medical Center seeks to return more amputee soldiers to a place once thought impossible: the battlefield.
Besides treadmills and stationary bikes, the $10 million Military Amputee Training Center will have weapons simulators, a climbing and rappelling wall, and military vehicle simulators to help soldiers adapt their prosthetics to driving tanks and trucks.
''Our guys and gals, they don't want to just walk household distances, they want to be able to return to running; they want to be able to return to duty," Lieutenant Colonel Jeff Gambel, clinical chief of the amputee clinic, said yesterday at a groundbreaking ceremony. ''And if they don't return to duty, they want to be able to rock climb and do all those other things."
''If there's somebody who drove a tank, we can build a simulated vehicle and actually allow them to drive that," said Lieutenant Colonel Paul Pasquina, medical director of Walter Reed's amputee program. ''We look at the controls and figure out how they can operate it with either an upper-extremity prosthesis or lower-extremity prosthesis."
Chuck Scoville, amputee program manager at Walter Reed, told a congressional committee this summer that amputations accounted for 2.4 percent of all wounded in action in Iraq, twice the rate in World Wars I and II.
.....at least 10 amputees have returned or are planning to return to their units, hospital officials said.
Cost savings plan for the VA? Somehow it strikes me as a bad idea to allow the insurgents to get a second shot in. Call me old fashioned but haven't these people given enough for king and corporation already?
Also, in the age of gay purges in the military, isn't this a bit more of a danger to the safety of soldiers on active duty? Not perhaps PC to point it out but perhaps realistic.
These excerpts from yesterday's Boston Globe.
WASHINGTON -- A state-of-the-art rehabilitation center opening next year at Walter Reed Army Medical Center seeks to return more amputee soldiers to a place once thought impossible: the battlefield.
Besides treadmills and stationary bikes, the $10 million Military Amputee Training Center will have weapons simulators, a climbing and rappelling wall, and military vehicle simulators to help soldiers adapt their prosthetics to driving tanks and trucks.
''Our guys and gals, they don't want to just walk household distances, they want to be able to return to running; they want to be able to return to duty," Lieutenant Colonel Jeff Gambel, clinical chief of the amputee clinic, said yesterday at a groundbreaking ceremony. ''And if they don't return to duty, they want to be able to rock climb and do all those other things."
''If there's somebody who drove a tank, we can build a simulated vehicle and actually allow them to drive that," said Lieutenant Colonel Paul Pasquina, medical director of Walter Reed's amputee program. ''We look at the controls and figure out how they can operate it with either an upper-extremity prosthesis or lower-extremity prosthesis."
Chuck Scoville, amputee program manager at Walter Reed, told a congressional committee this summer that amputations accounted for 2.4 percent of all wounded in action in Iraq, twice the rate in World Wars I and II.
.....at least 10 amputees have returned or are planning to return to their units, hospital officials said.
Cost savings plan for the VA? Somehow it strikes me as a bad idea to allow the insurgents to get a second shot in. Call me old fashioned but haven't these people given enough for king and corporation already?
Also, in the age of gay purges in the military, isn't this a bit more of a danger to the safety of soldiers on active duty? Not perhaps PC to point it out but perhaps realistic.
dave - i just noticed that about Condi. But doing a quick search on the procedure, it doesn't sound like this was a rush job. More like a scheduled procedure that could slide a week this way or that to accomodate meeting the heads of state of APEC.
dave - i just noticed that about Condi. But doing a quick search on the procedure, it doesn't sound like this was a rush job. More like a scheduled procedure that could slide a week this way or that to accomodate meeting the heads of state of APEC.
Kerry did not win by a landslide and Bush does not have a mandate. The country is still evenly divided like it was four years ago. When voters are asked what they believe a clear majority will respond with something very close to the platform the democrats have been running on for years, but enough of these people vote for republicans to give them the edge in Washington.
Kerry did not win by a landslide and Bush does not have a mandate. The country is still evenly divided like it was four years ago. When voters are asked what they believe a clear majority will respond with something very close to the platform the democrats have been running on for years, but enough of these people vote for republicans to give them the edge in Washington.
'Links, especially blind links, to other blogs distracts, clutters, and potentially links atriosans to some other content and perspective that may be outright hostile to our causes.'
indeed. Someone could be exposed to material hostile to our causes! That would be simply awful.
'Links, especially blind links, to other blogs distracts, clutters, and potentially links atriosans to some other content and perspective that may be outright hostile to our causes.'
indeed. Someone could be exposed to material hostile to our causes! That would be simply awful.
Tom - DTL, I'm thinking that, whenever the surgery would have been scheduled, it would have been a bad time. It would be for me, and I'm not a member of the Cabinet.
It's always something.
BTW, and seriously OT, I do love the psuedonyms people use here.
Tom - DTL, I'm thinking that, whenever the surgery would have been scheduled, it would have been a bad time. It would be for me, and I'm not a member of the Cabinet.
It's always something.
BTW, and seriously OT, I do love the psuedonyms people use here.
From someone who considers themselves fairly political:
who CARES who Bush appoints, and blah blah blah. Get off you r damn computer and start making your kids/friends etc lives better.
Oh and to Andy Sullivan...why don't you move to WACO if Liberals are so funny. It's nice to have you r cake and eat it too. (this isn't to say that being gay is his only attribute but to many more in a place like WACO it would be).
From someone who considers themselves fairly political:
who CARES who Bush appoints, and blah blah blah. Get off you r damn computer and start making your kids/friends etc lives better.
Oh and to Andy Sullivan...why don't you move to WACO if Liberals are so funny. It's nice to have you r cake and eat it too. (this isn't to say that being gay is his only attribute but to many more in a place like WACO it would be).
Paul destroys us blogwhores, then breathlessly posts a story about Blair's impeachment I had on my blog days ago. Irony is dead!
Paul destroys us blogwhores, then breathlessly posts a story about Blair's impeachment I had on my blog days ago. Irony is dead!
Logo:
I think the Bush regime was BEHIND the 9/11 attacks.
I wouldn't put ANYTHING past these people!
Logo:
I think the Bush regime was BEHIND the 9/11 attacks.
I wouldn't put ANYTHING past these people!
Resistance is NOT futile.
We will NOT be assimiliated.
BITE me, Bush bastards!
Resistance is NOT futile.
We will NOT be assimiliated.
BITE me, Bush bastards!
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"Paul destroys us blogwhores, then breathlessly posts a story about Blair's impeachment I had on my blog days ago. Irony is dead!
The Kenosha Kid"
What are you trying to teach me about the accuracy of reporting on your blog?
A, I didn't 'destroy' yuse, B it wasn't breathless (it was slightly aged news I didn't see anyone talking about), and C, irony is not dead, though these days it should be called something like 'titaniumy.'
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"Paul destroys us blogwhores, then breathlessly posts a story about Blair's impeachment I had on my blog days ago. Irony is dead!
The Kenosha Kid"
What are you trying to teach me about the accuracy of reporting on your blog?
A, I didn't 'destroy' yuse, B it wasn't breathless (it was slightly aged news I didn't see anyone talking about), and C, irony is not dead, though these days it should be called something like 'titaniumy.'
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"...Paul, do you actually think that Kerry winning would bring our country back together again just like that? I don't think so, sad to say. There has been tremendous and purposeful damage done to our sense of national community...it doesnt exist anymore,
Wow, how you exaggerate. Much of the 280 million Americans are worse for wear, but hardly maimed for life.
"we are not all in this together and to add to it, are very suspicious of each other."
That is not my experience at all, but I don't have any way of knowing how things are in your neck of the woods.
This coup exerts itself trying to make such changes permanent, but in fact they have had very little effect, ran a lousy failed campaign, have no new ideas, no one to put in their top slots other than CEOs, the presidency rarely looking so much like a boardroom, have shot themselves in the foot with anyone who like credibility, and had one of the biggest defections at the polls in the history of the United States.
The problem is more that there are rattlesnakes in the refrigerator, and we can't shotgun them without blowing the shit out of my beer.
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"...Paul, do you actually think that Kerry winning would bring our country back together again just like that? I don't think so, sad to say. There has been tremendous and purposeful damage done to our sense of national community...it doesnt exist anymore,
Wow, how you exaggerate. Much of the 280 million Americans are worse for wear, but hardly maimed for life.
"we are not all in this together and to add to it, are very suspicious of each other."
That is not my experience at all, but I don't have any way of knowing how things are in your neck of the woods.
This coup exerts itself trying to make such changes permanent, but in fact they have had very little effect, ran a lousy failed campaign, have no new ideas, no one to put in their top slots other than CEOs, the presidency rarely looking so much like a boardroom, have shot themselves in the foot with anyone who like credibility, and had one of the biggest defections at the polls in the history of the United States.
The problem is more that there are rattlesnakes in the refrigerator, and we can't shotgun them without blowing the shit out of my beer.
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"Kerry did not win by a landslide and Bush does not have a mandate."
Kerry DID WIN BY LANDSLIDE, and the facts on that are already in evidence.
Did you see the size of his loyalty-oath campaign rallies? PATHETIC.
" The country is still evenly divided like it was four years ago. "
Really! That's an amazing result, given the massive defection of Rs from the vote rolls of the most irresponsible government in the history of the country.
That's an amazing result given a total fup in the ME, a thousand soldiers dead, a police state in the making, religious kooks coming out of the woodowork, and F911 showing Bush with his head up his ass on the day in question.
Most of the people I talked to had NO idea that Bush had been so IMMOBILIZED by the crisis. And millions of people saw that, who did not vote for Gore.
Bush hemorrhaged votes by the millions. But Diebold can flip the vote just like you can flip the lightswitch.
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"Kerry did not win by a landslide and Bush does not have a mandate."
Kerry DID WIN BY LANDSLIDE, and the facts on that are already in evidence.
Did you see the size of his loyalty-oath campaign rallies? PATHETIC.
" The country is still evenly divided like it was four years ago. "
Really! That's an amazing result, given the massive defection of Rs from the vote rolls of the most irresponsible government in the history of the country.
That's an amazing result given a total fup in the ME, a thousand soldiers dead, a police state in the making, religious kooks coming out of the woodowork, and F911 showing Bush with his head up his ass on the day in question.
Most of the people I talked to had NO idea that Bush had been so IMMOBILIZED by the crisis. And millions of people saw that, who did not vote for Gore.
Bush hemorrhaged votes by the millions. But Diebold can flip the vote just like you can flip the lightswitch.
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So if the recounts prove that Kerry won, can Kerry disconcede?
So if the recounts prove that Kerry won, can Kerry disconcede?
So if the recounts prove that Kerry won, can Kerry disconcede?
He wouldn't have to. A concession isn't legally binding.
So if the recounts prove that Kerry won, can Kerry disconcede?
He wouldn't have to. A concession isn't legally binding.
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