I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Speaking of fundies, get a load of this quote: "When the courts make unconstitutional decisions, we should not enforce them. Federal courts have no army or navy… The court can opine, decide, talk about, sing, whatever it wants to do. We're not saying they can't do that. At the end of the day, we're saying the court can't enforce its opinions.".
That was John Hostettler, the Republican Rep from Indiana, speaking to the Christian Coalition. Who needs the courts, anyway?
(sorry for the blog whoring)
Speaking of fundies, get a load of this quote: "When the courts make unconstitutional decisions, we should not enforce them. Federal courts have no army or navy… The court can opine, decide, talk about, sing, whatever it wants to do. We're not saying they can't do that. At the end of the day, we're saying the court can't enforce its opinions.".
That was John Hostettler, the Republican Rep from Indiana, speaking to the Christian Coalition. Who needs the courts, anyway?
(sorry for the blog whoring)
Silly rabbit - the Walrus was Paul!
Silly rabbit - the Walrus was Paul!
Hey, everyone's been agreement for years that the biggest threat to America is religious fundamentalism.
It's just that some people think that only means bin Laden.
This is it, folks. Seriously, this is the culture war that Buchanan was talking about in '92. And it is for the heart and soul of America. Thing is, the religious nuts who claim to be defending our values are the ones likeliest to destroy them.
Hey, everyone's been agreement for years that the biggest threat to America is religious fundamentalism.
It's just that some people think that only means bin Laden.
This is it, folks. Seriously, this is the culture war that Buchanan was talking about in '92. And it is for the heart and soul of America. Thing is, the religious nuts who claim to be defending our values are the ones likeliest to destroy them.
I'd think the fundies are the Carpenter, the corporatists are the Walrus, and we are all the oysters.
I'd think the fundies are the Carpenter, the corporatists are the Walrus, and we are all the oysters.
I'm sure The Carpenter has to be Jesus, but the rest of it makes my head hurt.
Guess I'll just go to work. Being a fundamentalist, Biblical Absolutist is really tiring.
This was biblical, right?
I'm sure The Carpenter has to be Jesus, but the rest of it makes my head hurt.
Guess I'll just go to work. Being a fundamentalist, Biblical Absolutist is really tiring.
This was biblical, right?
Well, when The 900 LB Walrus Corp gets hungry, it's gonna be Fundies onna half-shell, you bet. Pass the hot sauce.
Well, when The 900 LB Walrus Corp gets hungry, it's gonna be Fundies onna half-shell, you bet. Pass the hot sauce.
first indiana sends nba players into the stands and now they want to send what into the courtrooms to get all them activist judges!
first indiana sends nba players into the stands and now they want to send what into the courtrooms to get all them activist judges!
Hey y'all -- it's time to get a gun rack for your Volvo ... seriously.
Due to a touchy piece of legislation, Oklahoma conservatives are at odds with themselves over the hot-button issue of guns-in-the-workplace. The question is one red staters probably never thought had to be asked (and blue staters never thought could be asked):
Is the right to keep your firearm locked in your car in the company parking lot more sacrosanct than the right the company has to keep your guns off its land?
Corporate interests are imploring the government to keep their real estate firearm-free. Gun-owners want to be prepared for any job-related mishap. The Oklahoma courts are set for a Constitutional dilemma.
After hearing such an alien inquiry, latte-sipping, Volvo-driving liberals may lament the new dialectic of the Bush Era, throw up their arms, and call for a pox on both their houses. But the tired and dying left may want to look at the broader implications of this simmering Red State Civil War. What's really going on here is that the stitching holding the conservative movement together is beginning to fray, and what's popping out ain't pretty.
Hey y'all -- it's time to get a gun rack for your Volvo ... seriously.
Due to a touchy piece of legislation, Oklahoma conservatives are at odds with themselves over the hot-button issue of guns-in-the-workplace. The question is one red staters probably never thought had to be asked (and blue staters never thought could be asked):
Is the right to keep your firearm locked in your car in the company parking lot more sacrosanct than the right the company has to keep your guns off its land?
Corporate interests are imploring the government to keep their real estate firearm-free. Gun-owners want to be prepared for any job-related mishap. The Oklahoma courts are set for a Constitutional dilemma.
After hearing such an alien inquiry, latte-sipping, Volvo-driving liberals may lament the new dialectic of the Bush Era, throw up their arms, and call for a pox on both their houses. But the tired and dying left may want to look at the broader implications of this simmering Red State Civil War. What's really going on here is that the stitching holding the conservative movement together is beginning to fray, and what's popping out ain't pretty.
Here's Lewis Carroll's "Fame's Penny trumpet" a very pointed attack at the Victorian equivalent of Grantsmanship.
Enjoy!
1876
FAME'S PENNY-TRUMPET
by Lewis Carroll
FAME'S PENNY-TRUMPET -
[Affectionately dedicated to all "original researchers"
who pant for "endowment".] -
BLOW, blow your trumpets till they crack,
Ye little men of little souls!
And bid them huddle at your back-
Gold-sucking leeches, shoals on shoals! -
Fill all the air with hungry wails-
"Reward us, ere we think or write!
Without your Gold mere Knowledge fails
To sate the swinish appetite!" -
And, where great Plato paced serene,
Or Newton paused with wistful eye,
Rush to the chace with hoofs unclean
And Babel-clamour of the sty. -
Be yours the pay: be theirs the praise:
We will not rob them of their due,
Nor vex the ghosts of other days
By naming them along with you. -
They sought and found undying fame:
They toiled not for reward nor thanks:
Their cheeks are hot with honest shame
For you, the modern mountebanks! -
Who preach of Justice- plead with ears
That Love and Mercy should abound-
While marking with complacent ears
The moaning of some tortured hound: -
Who prate of Wisdom- nay, forbear,
Lest Wisdom turn on you in wrath,
Trampling, with heel that will not spare,
The vermin that beset her path! -
Go, throng each other's drawing-rooms,
Ye idols of a petty clique:
Strut your brief hour in borrowed plumes
And make your penny-trumpets squeak: -
Deck your dull talk with pilfered shreds
Of learning from a nobler time,
And oil each other's little heads
With mutual Flattery's golden slime: -
And when the topmost height ye gain,
And stand in Glory's ether clear,
And grasp the prize of all your pain-
So many hundred pounds a year- -
Then let Fame's banner be unfurled!
Sing Paeans for a victory won!
Ye tapers, that would light the world,
And cast a shadow on the Sun- -
Who still shall pour His rays sublime,
One crystal flood, from East to West,
When ye have burned your little time
And feebly flickered into rest! - -
THE END
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Here's Lewis Carroll's "Fame's Penny trumpet" a very pointed attack at the Victorian equivalent of Grantsmanship.
Enjoy!
1876
FAME'S PENNY-TRUMPET
by Lewis Carroll
FAME'S PENNY-TRUMPET -
[Affectionately dedicated to all "original researchers"
who pant for "endowment".] -
BLOW, blow your trumpets till they crack,
Ye little men of little souls!
And bid them huddle at your back-
Gold-sucking leeches, shoals on shoals! -
Fill all the air with hungry wails-
"Reward us, ere we think or write!
Without your Gold mere Knowledge fails
To sate the swinish appetite!" -
And, where great Plato paced serene,
Or Newton paused with wistful eye,
Rush to the chace with hoofs unclean
And Babel-clamour of the sty. -
Be yours the pay: be theirs the praise:
We will not rob them of their due,
Nor vex the ghosts of other days
By naming them along with you. -
They sought and found undying fame:
They toiled not for reward nor thanks:
Their cheeks are hot with honest shame
For you, the modern mountebanks! -
Who preach of Justice- plead with ears
That Love and Mercy should abound-
While marking with complacent ears
The moaning of some tortured hound: -
Who prate of Wisdom- nay, forbear,
Lest Wisdom turn on you in wrath,
Trampling, with heel that will not spare,
The vermin that beset her path! -
Go, throng each other's drawing-rooms,
Ye idols of a petty clique:
Strut your brief hour in borrowed plumes
And make your penny-trumpets squeak: -
Deck your dull talk with pilfered shreds
Of learning from a nobler time,
And oil each other's little heads
With mutual Flattery's golden slime: -
And when the topmost height ye gain,
And stand in Glory's ether clear,
And grasp the prize of all your pain-
So many hundred pounds a year- -
Then let Fame's banner be unfurled!
Sing Paeans for a victory won!
Ye tapers, that would light the world,
And cast a shadow on the Sun- -
Who still shall pour His rays sublime,
One crystal flood, from East to West,
When ye have burned your little time
And feebly flickered into rest! - -
THE END
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Another great psychedelic poet once said:
"Fascism should more accurately be named corporatism, since it is the merger of state and corporate power."
Don't for a second believe the corporatists won't win control of the GOP. Follow the money. The question is whether the religious radicals will rebel and start causing problems for all of us, the way the Wahhabist do for the Saudi Royals.
Same dynamic -- same result?
Another great psychedelic poet once said:
"Fascism should more accurately be named corporatism, since it is the merger of state and corporate power."
Don't for a second believe the corporatists won't win control of the GOP. Follow the money. The question is whether the religious radicals will rebel and start causing problems for all of us, the way the Wahhabist do for the Saudi Royals.
Same dynamic -- same result?
Great post, Hecate. It will be interesting to see the outcome, won't it?
Great post, Hecate. It will be interesting to see the outcome, won't it?
Spot on and artful post, Hecate. You could plug in each group either place, but it seems to me the fundies can't even spare crocodile tears in their zeal these days. They are the Carpenter to me, I guess.
Thanks for Fame's Penny Trumpet, Mr. Bill. I've never read that.
Spot on and artful post, Hecate. You could plug in each group either place, but it seems to me the fundies can't even spare crocodile tears in their zeal these days. They are the Carpenter to me, I guess.
Thanks for Fame's Penny Trumpet, Mr. Bill. I've never read that.
If you exist, Lord, give us a sign.
Fundie smiting would be mighty fine.
They use you to spread hate.
They call you a Man Date.
Squeeze their nuts till they swinishly whine.
If you exist, Lord, give us a sign.
Fundie smiting would be mighty fine.
They use you to spread hate.
They call you a Man Date.
Squeeze their nuts till they swinishly whine.
All in all I'm starting to think that chaos would be easier... and a hell of a lot cheaper.
All in all I'm starting to think that chaos would be easier... and a hell of a lot cheaper.
How about the seven maids? Lots of us feel like that this week. But, we are the oysters. Yes.
How about the seven maids? Lots of us feel like that this week. But, we are the oysters. Yes.
Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe
Beware the Jabberwock, my son!
The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun
The frumious Bandersnatch!
He took his vorpal sword in hand:
Long time the manxome foe he sought -
So rested he by the Tumtum tree
And stood awhile in thought.
And, as in uffish thought he stood,
The Jabberwock, with eyes of flame,
Came wiffling through the tulgey wood,
And burbled as it came!
One, two! One, two! And through, and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back.
And hast thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
A frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!
He chortled in his joy.
Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.
.
Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe
Beware the Jabberwock, my son!
The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun
The frumious Bandersnatch!
He took his vorpal sword in hand:
Long time the manxome foe he sought -
So rested he by the Tumtum tree
And stood awhile in thought.
And, as in uffish thought he stood,
The Jabberwock, with eyes of flame,
Came wiffling through the tulgey wood,
And burbled as it came!
One, two! One, two! And through, and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back.
And hast thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
A frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!
He chortled in his joy.
Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.
.
Federal courts have no army or navy… The court can opine, decide, talk about, sing, whatever it wants to do. We're not saying they can't do that. At the end of the day, we're saying the court can't enforce its opinions."
That's great. Channeling Andrew Jackson there. Get plenty of fluids, kids, we're gearing up for a brand new trail of tears.
Federal courts have no army or navy… The court can opine, decide, talk about, sing, whatever it wants to do. We're not saying they can't do that. At the end of the day, we're saying the court can't enforce its opinions."
That's great. Channeling Andrew Jackson there. Get plenty of fluids, kids, we're gearing up for a brand new trail of tears.
Federal courts have no army or navy… The court can opine, decide, talk about, sing, whatever it wants to do. We're not saying they can't do that. At the end of the day, we're saying the court can't enforce its opinions.
Federal courts have no army or navy… The court can opine, decide, talk about, sing, whatever it wants to do. We're not saying they can't do that. At the end of the day, we're saying the court can't enforce its opinions.
%*&% Halocsca.
Time to re-read Marbury v. Madison, I guess. Hostettler clearly doesn't understand notion of a government based on checks and balances. Nor what happens when a populace is left w/ no outlet other than violence. Hope he doesn't need to learn this lesson the hard way.
%*&% Halocsca.
Time to re-read Marbury v. Madison, I guess. Hostettler clearly doesn't understand notion of a government based on checks and balances. Nor what happens when a populace is left w/ no outlet other than violence. Hope he doesn't need to learn this lesson the hard way.
The oysters are obviously the fundies - the corporations will eat them all up. What, do the fundies actually think they are somehow not the victims of this government?
Yeah, right.
The oysters are obviously the fundies - the corporations will eat them all up. What, do the fundies actually think they are somehow not the victims of this government?
Yeah, right.
Mule Kicker's right - follow the money. The corporatists will prevail, and the rest of us get screwed. The Cs can afford to throw the fundies all the bones they need to stay in control. If abortion is outlawed, if religious fundamentalism prevails in the schools, if free speech is restricted - the Corporatists have the money to circumvent any such controls on themselves.
Mule Kicker's right - follow the money. The corporatists will prevail, and the rest of us get screwed. The Cs can afford to throw the fundies all the bones they need to stay in control. If abortion is outlawed, if religious fundamentalism prevails in the schools, if free speech is restricted - the Corporatists have the money to circumvent any such controls on themselves.
Hostettler clearly doesn't understand notion of a government based on checks and balances.
Or, more likely, doesn't want to understand.
Hostettler clearly doesn't understand notion of a government based on checks and balances.
Or, more likely, doesn't want to understand.
Having money and controlling the levers of power, in the manner of the corporatists, gives them the true power. The fundies are the most energized they've ever been, though, and have True Believers seeded in Congress. If the fundies turn on the corparatists, and try to gin up a Father Coughlin-type movement, there is no FDR to save us. There would be a literal bloodbath when the fundies and corpos duke it out with all those guns. We'd get lots of collateral damage.
Having money and controlling the levers of power, in the manner of the corporatists, gives them the true power. The fundies are the most energized they've ever been, though, and have True Believers seeded in Congress. If the fundies turn on the corparatists, and try to gin up a Father Coughlin-type movement, there is no FDR to save us. There would be a literal bloodbath when the fundies and corpos duke it out with all those guns. We'd get lots of collateral damage.
Consider these facts:
-- Kerry won the youth vote (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/
A35290-2004Nov8.html?referrer=email) -- the future voters of America.
-- Corporate America donated ten times as much to the Republicans as they did to the Democrats ( http://www.boston.com/news/polit...or_gop?mode=PF)
. This fact has not got the media play that the evangelicals have -- though it is by far a bigger factor in the Republican gains in the White House and Congress. (There's also Diebold and Sequoia, but for our purposes, we will pretend that nothing at all went wrong in the 2004 vote count.)
-- Bush's biggest gains in 2004 came from non-religious voters (http://www.emergingdemocraticmajorityweblog.com/
donkeyrising/archives/000930.php), not from the religious.
-- Finally, the groups that are most heavily-touted in the media as being "moral" -- Bob Jones' outfit (http://slate.msn.com/id/1004724/), Jerry Falwell and company (http://www.webpan.com/dsinclair/falwell.html), James Dobson (http://atheism.about.com/library/FAQs/rr/
blfaq_rr_dobson_agenda.htm), et cetera -- tend to be the same Southern churches that not so long ago were infamous for their sexism and bigotry -- especially against blacks. They may have officially toned down their anti-black bigotry, but their other bigotries have just been repackaged as "moral values".
Knowing all this, why are so many folks who should know better pushing the Suck-Up-To-The-Evangelicals line?
We know why the "mainstream" media are doing so. They're been in bed with the Republicans at least since Ronald Reagan killed the Fairness Doctrine, if not before. But what about the Democrats? Why are some of their leaders so eager to push the country farther towards fascism than the piddling election results warrant?
The answer: Because those people make up the current leadership of the Democratic Leadership Council, whose policies have driven Democratic strategies for the past fourteen years. They've controlled Democratic politics for over a decade -- and during that time, have lost both Houses of Congress, lost the Democratic lead in governorships, and lost the White House twice. The only thing that they can claim on the "win" side is Clinton's 1992 victory -- and with Ross Perot in the mix, it's doubtful that they can really claim that. The bottom line: Democrats lose when they ape Republicans as the DLC prescribes.
But since the DLC leaders like their hold on the Democratic reins of power -- even if at this point the reins are more like gold-plated deck chairs on the Titanic -- they continue to pitch the bogus "morals" message.
We must point out just how amoral the GOP's evangelicals are -- and point out the other facts about the 2004 election. Granted, with a pro-Republican media hindering our ability to do this, it will be difficult. But that's why
Consider these facts:
-- Kerry won the youth vote (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/
A35290-2004Nov8.html?referrer=email) -- the future voters of America.
-- Corporate America donated ten times as much to the Republicans as they did to the Democrats ( http://www.boston.com/news/polit...or_gop?mode=PF)
. This fact has not got the media play that the evangelicals have -- though it is by far a bigger factor in the Republican gains in the White House and Congress. (There's also Diebold and Sequoia, but for our purposes, we will pretend that nothing at all went wrong in the 2004 vote count.)
-- Bush's biggest gains in 2004 came from non-religious voters (http://www.emergingdemocraticmajorityweblog.com/
donkeyrising/archives/000930.php), not from the religious.
-- Finally, the groups that are most heavily-touted in the media as being "moral" -- Bob Jones' outfit (http://slate.msn.com/id/1004724/), Jerry Falwell and company (http://www.webpan.com/dsinclair/falwell.html), James Dobson (http://atheism.about.com/library/FAQs/rr/
blfaq_rr_dobson_agenda.htm), et cetera -- tend to be the same Southern churches that not so long ago were infamous for their sexism and bigotry -- especially against blacks. They may have officially toned down their anti-black bigotry, but their other bigotries have just been repackaged as "moral values".
Knowing all this, why are so many folks who should know better pushing the Suck-Up-To-The-Evangelicals line?
We know why the "mainstream" media are doing so. They're been in bed with the Republicans at least since Ronald Reagan killed the Fairness Doctrine, if not before. But what about the Democrats? Why are some of their leaders so eager to push the country farther towards fascism than the piddling election results warrant?
The answer: Because those people make up the current leadership of the Democratic Leadership Council, whose policies have driven Democratic strategies for the past fourteen years. They've controlled Democratic politics for over a decade -- and during that time, have lost both Houses of Congress, lost the Democratic lead in governorships, and lost the White House twice. The only thing that they can claim on the "win" side is Clinton's 1992 victory -- and with Ross Perot in the mix, it's doubtful that they can really claim that. The bottom line: Democrats lose when they ape Republicans as the DLC prescribes.
But since the DLC leaders like their hold on the Democratic reins of power -- even if at this point the reins are more like gold-plated deck chairs on the Titanic -- they continue to pitch the bogus "morals" message.
We must point out just how amoral the GOP's evangelicals are -- and point out the other facts about the 2004 election. Granted, with a pro-Republican media hindering our ability to do this, it will be difficult. But that's why
Continued from previous:
... Granted, with a pro-Republican media hindering our ability to do this, it will be difficult. But that's why we started these blogs and Air America, right?
Continued from previous:
... Granted, with a pro-Republican media hindering our ability to do this, it will be difficult. But that's why we started these blogs and Air America, right?
> Is the right to keep your firearm
> locked in your car in the company
> parking lot more sacrosanct than the
> right the company has to keep your
> guns off its land?
I thought that had already been decided. At least in Texas, where several factories I worked at had signs at the doors saying "leave your gun in your truck".
Cranky
> Is the right to keep your firearm
> locked in your car in the company
> parking lot more sacrosanct than the
> right the company has to keep your
> guns off its land?
I thought that had already been decided. At least in Texas, where several factories I worked at had signs at the doors saying "leave your gun in your truck".
Cranky
Wow, Hecate. I just googled your name. You are awesome!
Wow, Hecate. I just googled your name. You are awesome!
Corporations and Churches both only continue to exist if they make money, so whats the difference?
Corporations and Churches both only continue to exist if they make money, so whats the difference?
up2date - awesome post - I used it at First-Draft - hope you don't mind. I linked back to your blog, so you get credit.
up2date - awesome post - I used it at First-Draft - hope you don't mind. I linked back to your blog, so you get credit.
When the fundies go after the Jews I'll start to worry. There they are, affluent, influential, mostly liberal, and they don't accept Jesus as their Lord and Savior !
Fundementalism may appear to be miles wide, but it's not even an inch deep. Let's see them go after something besides straw men they've stuffed themselves.
Which is not to denigrate the suffering of those they decide to bully.
Remember the flap over the Monday night Football promo? It actually came down to 3 letters which were original, and not prompted by e-mails or astroturfed.
When the fundies go after the Jews I'll start to worry. There they are, affluent, influential, mostly liberal, and they don't accept Jesus as their Lord and Savior !
Fundementalism may appear to be miles wide, but it's not even an inch deep. Let's see them go after something besides straw men they've stuffed themselves.
Which is not to denigrate the suffering of those they decide to bully.
Remember the flap over the Monday night Football promo? It actually came down to 3 letters which were original, and not prompted by e-mails or astroturfed.
My contention is that the repiglicans consist mainly of 3 groups:
a) Rich bastids (corporatists)
b) Nutty religious bastids (fundies)
c) All the other bastids (NASCAR dads, security moms, bush cultists)
Group A screws C by Walmarting their communities, shipping their jobs overseas, weakening their labor unions, and sucking up their tax money.
Group B screws C by taking away their right to choose, beating them over the head with a religion they're not all that worked up about, and taking away their titties, beer, Nintendo, and action movies.
In my mind, A is the carpenter (dour, colorless), B is the Walrus (hypocritical, demonstrative), and C is the plate of oysters.
What's really unbelievable is C just can't figure it out. Too addicted to SUVs, DVDs, and light beer.
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My contention is that the repiglicans consist mainly of 3 groups:
a) Rich bastids (corporatists)
b) Nutty religious bastids (fundies)
c) All the other bastids (NASCAR dads, security moms, bush cultists)
Group A screws C by Walmarting their communities, shipping their jobs overseas, weakening their labor unions, and sucking up their tax money.
Group B screws C by taking away their right to choose, beating them over the head with a religion they're not all that worked up about, and taking away their titties, beer, Nintendo, and action movies.
In my mind, A is the carpenter (dour, colorless), B is the Walrus (hypocritical, demonstrative), and C is the plate of oysters.
What's really unbelievable is C just can't figure it out. Too addicted to SUVs, DVDs, and light beer.
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I am the eggman, they are the eggmen.
I am the walrus, goo goo g’joob.
I am the eggman, they are the eggmen.
I am the walrus, goo goo g’joob.
This part were the news media continuously insist that it IS doing it's job is nothing but a joke.
I was watching Jonathan Alter on S-Span as he YELLED at a member of the audience over the mere suggestion that the news media wasn't doing it's job anymore.
Jonathan Alter, who writes opinions that are truly a close second only to Thomas Friedman's horrid contemptibility.
And today in NYT Brook writes a pieces that suggest that Bush is a saint for giving China so much new found wealth.
Good News About Poverty
By DAVID BROOKS
Globalization has made this the most prosperous year in human history.
Bush should be honored for increasing the creation of more sweatshops in third world countries that have ever existed before now. Never mind that American citizens have suffered the greatest NET loss of jobs that ANY President EVER in American history.
And Republicans keep telling all US citizens that they DON'T CARE what other people in foriegn countries think of the US and what looks to me like the ever increasing amount of stupidity Americans show is this regard is dispiriting.
Bush WASN'T for a strong American dollar because he was for empowering China’s communism. And yet Republics are always calling liberals "Socialist". Jeebus, but isn't it more like Bush and his cronies are the type of workings of the KGB and Russian that they aren't?
Bush isn't a conservative, he is a criminal. The ONLY service Bush provices is to his crony captialist supporters. There is NOTHING Christian and/or democratic about the Bush Adminstration and it's soul support for it's GOP contributors.
This part were the news media continuously insist that it IS doing it's job is nothing but a joke.
I was watching Jonathan Alter on S-Span as he YELLED at a member of the audience over the mere suggestion that the news media wasn't doing it's job anymore.
Jonathan Alter, who writes opinions that are truly a close second only to Thomas Friedman's horrid contemptibility.
And today in NYT Brook writes a pieces that suggest that Bush is a saint for giving China so much new found wealth.
Good News About Poverty
By DAVID BROOKS
Globalization has made this the most prosperous year in human history.
Bush should be honored for increasing the creation of more sweatshops in third world countries that have ever existed before now. Never mind that American citizens have suffered the greatest NET loss of jobs that ANY President EVER in American history.
And Republicans keep telling all US citizens that they DON'T CARE what other people in foriegn countries think of the US and what looks to me like the ever increasing amount of stupidity Americans show is this regard is dispiriting.
Bush WASN'T for a strong American dollar because he was for empowering China’s communism. And yet Republics are always calling liberals "Socialist". Jeebus, but isn't it more like Bush and his cronies are the type of workings of the KGB and Russian that they aren't?
Bush isn't a conservative, he is a criminal. The ONLY service Bush provices is to his crony captialist supporters. There is NOTHING Christian and/or democratic about the Bush Adminstration and it's soul support for it's GOP contributors.
Tena - I don't mind at all. I'm glad to get the word out.
Tena - I don't mind at all. I'm glad to get the word out.
The corporatists will cooperate in ANYTHING which drives a wedge between the People and their democratic institutions. Simple as that. The churches are already complcit with corporations in ever so many ways. Churches NEVER oppose the corporate culture in any other than purely nominal and ineffective ways, and mostly they endorse the corporate model. The Church (RC) IS the model for fascism, after all...
The corporatists will cooperate in ANYTHING which drives a wedge between the People and their democratic institutions. Simple as that. The churches are already complcit with corporations in ever so many ways. Churches NEVER oppose the corporate culture in any other than purely nominal and ineffective ways, and mostly they endorse the corporate model. The Church (RC) IS the model for fascism, after all...
I do not think we should be kidding ourselves though. There is no reason why the theocratic and plutocratic wings of the GOP cannot peacefully co-exist for as long as they hold power. After all their version of Christianity has been purged of all references to camels and eyes of needles. For them God and Mammon are one. Even the puritans of old had nothing against being rich per se , they just were against people using that money to show off and have fun. When was the last time Jerry or Pat and the rest of the howling pack denounced the morals of a CEO or a conservative politician ? I'm sure that they understand perfectly well that the ruling class is exempt from the morals that they preach provided a certain amount of discretion is shown. After all the aristocracy of the Gilded Age had their mistresses , fancy bordellos and opium dens so why should their heirs have it any different today ? After all a Talibanized America will provide many advantages to the plutocrats: the dumbed down curriculum will provide them with a cheap and docile work force , any shortages of skilled specialists can be made good by outsourcing to India and China. All land use and environmental regulations will be gone and if the life expectancy of the proles is shortened , then no need for Social Security. Compared to that , any quarrels about such things as taking guns to work are small beer , there is too much to be gained by both sides. I'm sure that Unka Karl is perfectly well aware of all that I mentioned above and is working diligently to cement this alliance.
Also , about this whole "values won the election " issue I think we are all missing the main point which is: the GOP no longer has to shove the religious right into the attic when election time rolls around. In '92 Pat Buchanan was seen as a wild eyed whacko and scared the bejeezus out of a lot of people in the GOP with his "culture war speech". Now , compared to some of the crazies just elected to the senate , he's almost respectable.
I do not think we should be kidding ourselves though. There is no reason why the theocratic and plutocratic wings of the GOP cannot peacefully co-exist for as long as they hold power. After all their version of Christianity has been purged of all references to camels and eyes of needles. For them God and Mammon are one. Even the puritans of old had nothing against being rich per se , they just were against people using that money to show off and have fun. When was the last time Jerry or Pat and the rest of the howling pack denounced the morals of a CEO or a conservative politician ? I'm sure that they understand perfectly well that the ruling class is exempt from the morals that they preach provided a certain amount of discretion is shown. After all the aristocracy of the Gilded Age had their mistresses , fancy bordellos and opium dens so why should their heirs have it any different today ? After all a Talibanized America will provide many advantages to the plutocrats: the dumbed down curriculum will provide them with a cheap and docile work force , any shortages of skilled specialists can be made good by outsourcing to India and China. All land use and environmental regulations will be gone and if the life expectancy of the proles is shortened , then no need for Social Security. Compared to that , any quarrels about such things as taking guns to work are small beer , there is too much to be gained by both sides. I'm sure that Unka Karl is perfectly well aware of all that I mentioned above and is working diligently to cement this alliance.
Also , about this whole "values won the election " issue I think we are all missing the main point which is: the GOP no longer has to shove the religious right into the attic when election time rolls around. In '92 Pat Buchanan was seen as a wild eyed whacko and scared the bejeezus out of a lot of people in the GOP with his "culture war speech". Now , compared to some of the crazies just elected to the senate , he's almost respectable.
Same thing will happen as in 1933 Deutschland. German corporations thought they could control the NSDAP
just like they had controlled the socialists. Once they realized that the Nazi movement has gained its own legs, the time had passed during which they could alter the course of events. Of course, this isn't Germany. But I do think the corporations (Sinclar, Clear Channel) have conjured up something that's going to be beyond their ability to easily dictate.
Same thing will happen as in 1933 Deutschland. German corporations thought they could control the NSDAP
just like they had controlled the socialists. Once they realized that the Nazi movement has gained its own legs, the time had passed during which they could alter the course of events. Of course, this isn't Germany. But I do think the corporations (Sinclar, Clear Channel) have conjured up something that's going to be beyond their ability to easily dictate.
Good points, Eric V. Depressing, but good.
Good points, Eric V. Depressing, but good.
Eric V. - Let me suggest something: The very fact that the Religious Right has taken center stage is the very thing that will bring the Bushies down.
I don't think that the leaders of the RR are respectable, really. I don't think the majority of Americans are going to accept the RR as legitimate. That's one reason why I want as many of those wackos out front and vocal as possible. I don't believe that most Americans are extremists. I just don't think most Americans take the RR seriously enough. I think they will begin to now.
Eric V. - Let me suggest something: The very fact that the Religious Right has taken center stage is the very thing that will bring the Bushies down.
I don't think that the leaders of the RR are respectable, really. I don't think the majority of Americans are going to accept the RR as legitimate. That's one reason why I want as many of those wackos out front and vocal as possible. I don't believe that most Americans are extremists. I just don't think most Americans take the RR seriously enough. I think they will begin to now.
Konopelli,
The "churches" that you speak of are the "foolers" as seen since the time of the IWW, the anarcho-syndicalists, and good old Sacco and Vanzetti.
It took just over 70 years for the churches to shake off the mantle of being tools used in the suppression of the common people, and 60 years to shake off the legacy of indecision and confusion of Pius the 12th.
You can find churchmen that assist in helping the poor, and getting aid for the handicapped and so on.
But for each activist of the cloth, you find some screaming bile-spitter who would see religion used again as a tool, and again left in the lurch in the face of clear evil.
We have watched the American Catholic church split, fragment, get attacked by a very clever new "Klan," be exposed for hiding evil, and recently, attacked some more by firebrands with an agenda.....more bile-spitters.
This new breed of pious bigot will succeed only in making a new hell of America, a hell I think Thomas Jefferson clearly saw and sought to stop.
America is based on freedom, and yes, it is a very opportunistic freedom at that, and not based on religious dogma. John Adams saw a Freedom for religion, and Thomas Jefferson saw a freedom from religion.
I'll line up with Jefferson.
Konopelli,
The "churches" that you speak of are the "foolers" as seen since the time of the IWW, the anarcho-syndicalists, and good old Sacco and Vanzetti.
It took just over 70 years for the churches to shake off the mantle of being tools used in the suppression of the common people, and 60 years to shake off the legacy of indecision and confusion of Pius the 12th.
You can find churchmen that assist in helping the poor, and getting aid for the handicapped and so on.
But for each activist of the cloth, you find some screaming bile-spitter who would see religion used again as a tool, and again left in the lurch in the face of clear evil.
We have watched the American Catholic church split, fragment, get attacked by a very clever new "Klan," be exposed for hiding evil, and recently, attacked some more by firebrands with an agenda.....more bile-spitters.
This new breed of pious bigot will succeed only in making a new hell of America, a hell I think Thomas Jefferson clearly saw and sought to stop.
America is based on freedom, and yes, it is a very opportunistic freedom at that, and not based on religious dogma. John Adams saw a Freedom for religion, and Thomas Jefferson saw a freedom from religion.
I'll line up with Jefferson.
I also line up with dieselcreek...
"I am he, as we are me, and we are all together."
"Look how they fly like Judy in the sky"
"See how they fly"
"They're flying!"
"I am the eggman, we are the eggmen"
"I am the Walrus!"
"Goo goo ga-joob!"
Nothing like a 6-way of Mr. Natural for a lively Thanksgiving...right diesel? (with apologies to R Crumb and Dr. Hunter S. Thompson)
I also line up with dieselcreek...
"I am he, as we are me, and we are all together."
"Look how they fly like Judy in the sky"
"See how they fly"
"They're flying!"
"I am the eggman, we are the eggmen"
"I am the Walrus!"
"Goo goo ga-joob!"
Nothing like a 6-way of Mr. Natural for a lively Thanksgiving...right diesel? (with apologies to R Crumb and Dr. Hunter S. Thompson)
Eric V has a good point. Neocons and Theocons may be able to coexist. This is because the theocons are no longer (or maybe never have been) concerned about the agglomeration of wealth or economic power. They are only concerned with sex -- or demonizing sex and anything connected to it.
The neocons can and always will be able to insulate themselves from the prattle of the theocons. And the commonality shared by the neocons and the theocons is "Big Government Conservatism." That is, using the Leviathan of government to wield power for themselves. As long as the theocons let the neocons go make their money and globalize the world for economic exploitation and the neocons let the theocons have a little fun with school curriculum and FCC regs they'll never have to abide by, the marriage is secure.
The Goldwater libertarians, the small-government obsessives, are the useless wing of the GOP. They are the outliers, and they are the people the Dems can best appeal to if they approach the next elections as the outsider/reform party.
Eric V has a good point. Neocons and Theocons may be able to coexist. This is because the theocons are no longer (or maybe never have been) concerned about the agglomeration of wealth or economic power. They are only concerned with sex -- or demonizing sex and anything connected to it.
The neocons can and always will be able to insulate themselves from the prattle of the theocons. And the commonality shared by the neocons and the theocons is "Big Government Conservatism." That is, using the Leviathan of government to wield power for themselves. As long as the theocons let the neocons go make their money and globalize the world for economic exploitation and the neocons let the theocons have a little fun with school curriculum and FCC regs they'll never have to abide by, the marriage is secure.
The Goldwater libertarians, the small-government obsessives, are the useless wing of the GOP. They are the outliers, and they are the people the Dems can best appeal to if they approach the next elections as the outsider/reform party.
boilerman10,
I raise my bubbler to you, my friend.
Cheers!
boilerman10,
I raise my bubbler to you, my friend.
Cheers!
Just stopping by to note that our political reality has been captured beautifully by writers like Jonathan Swift and Lewis Carroll. There are no end of "Wonderland" images and episodes that are apropos to the status quo.
The "hunt" for Osama is foretold in the picaresque rhyme, "The Hunting of the Snark."
"For the Snark was a Boojum, you see..."
Just stopping by to note that our political reality has been captured beautifully by writers like Jonathan Swift and Lewis Carroll. There are no end of "Wonderland" images and episodes that are apropos to the status quo.
The "hunt" for Osama is foretold in the picaresque rhyme, "The Hunting of the Snark."
"For the Snark was a Boojum, you see..."
Latest FaBlog: The Art of Hate
Latest FaBlog: The Art of Hate
Remember how, in myth, Hope was in Pandora's Box?
The fundamentalist vote comes with Hope. They need the carrot to be dangled or they will fade away. The carrot is about to be eaten or it is about to fade for decades. Either way, it makes for a bleak picture for the Republicans going forward.
Remember how, in myth, Hope was in Pandora's Box?
The fundamentalist vote comes with Hope. They need the carrot to be dangled or they will fade away. The carrot is about to be eaten or it is about to fade for decades. Either way, it makes for a bleak picture for the Republicans going forward.
*Bzzt*. ' "What's The Matter With Kansas?' "
As long as the corporate cronies are able to continue to blame Liberals and Liberalism for the harm big corporations and Republican policies do to our society, the Fundies will continue to march, pitchforks and torches in hand.
*Bzzt*. ' "What's The Matter With Kansas?' "
As long as the corporate cronies are able to continue to blame Liberals and Liberalism for the harm big corporations and Republican policies do to our society, the Fundies will continue to march, pitchforks and torches in hand.
I think that the neo-cons and theo-cons will get along fabulously. You will have cheap labor capitalism sucking the life out of everybody and then you will have the fundi thought police being used as social control. It worked in the south just fine. Keep the drones whipped up over gays and women who don't know their place and those darker people and they won't pay the least attention to their pockets being picked. The south is their model of Richy Rich's little paradise. The interstates will be kept up because products have to move to market but county and city roads that the common trash drive on will be full of potholes. The schools will only teach them enough to follow orders and nothing else because a real education makes them uppity and they will want to move beyond their rightful place. No social services because it will make them lazy. No public libraries because they might read and "get ideas". High prices and high rent and low wages because otherwise they might try to build a nest egg and break free of the iron boot resting on their necks. They might try to go to college, create their own business, or horrors! make a better life for their kids, the next generation of drones. And the churches and the media will pound away at their minds telling them to shut up and take it and obey and not be greedy for better wages. And that wanting a better life is selfish and weak while you should just sit there and stoically take it up the rear and put what's left of your wages in the collection plate.
I think that the neo-cons and theo-cons will get along fabulously. You will have cheap labor capitalism sucking the life out of everybody and then you will have the fundi thought police being used as social control. It worked in the south just fine. Keep the drones whipped up over gays and women who don't know their place and those darker people and they won't pay the least attention to their pockets being picked. The south is their model of Richy Rich's little paradise. The interstates will be kept up because products have to move to market but county and city roads that the common trash drive on will be full of potholes. The schools will only teach them enough to follow orders and nothing else because a real education makes them uppity and they will want to move beyond their rightful place. No social services because it will make them lazy. No public libraries because they might read and "get ideas". High prices and high rent and low wages because otherwise they might try to build a nest egg and break free of the iron boot resting on their necks. They might try to go to college, create their own business, or horrors! make a better life for their kids, the next generation of drones. And the churches and the media will pound away at their minds telling them to shut up and take it and obey and not be greedy for better wages. And that wanting a better life is selfish and weak while you should just sit there and stoically take it up the rear and put what's left of your wages in the collection plate.
I say the rest of us all move to the blue states, make them as close to heaven as possible and let the red states go down. Don't all the corporate moguls live in the blue states and pay blue state taxes? They have taste, no?
Let's move all those distasteful government functions like healthcare and teaching evolution to the state governments only and choke them off at the national level. Then we can see whether the blue way is better than the red way (although I already know the answer, QED).
I say the rest of us all move to the blue states, make them as close to heaven as possible and let the red states go down. Don't all the corporate moguls live in the blue states and pay blue state taxes? They have taste, no?
Let's move all those distasteful government functions like healthcare and teaching evolution to the state governments only and choke them off at the national level. Then we can see whether the blue way is better than the red way (although I already know the answer, QED).
Whoa, sekmet, I've had those thoughts, but hadn't dared let myself really examine them. Jeebus. It all makes sense.
What about all the military crap, though? It seems all of these wars only, really, benefit a very few companies. Am I wrong? It seems it works against the rest of the corporatocracy, because everyone icky and sad. When Clinton was in office, everyone was spending like a loon.
Whoa, sekmet, I've had those thoughts, but hadn't dared let myself really examine them. Jeebus. It all makes sense.
What about all the military crap, though? It seems all of these wars only, really, benefit a very few companies. Am I wrong? It seems it works against the rest of the corporatocracy, because everyone icky and sad. When Clinton was in office, everyone was spending like a loon.
Sigh.
"because everyone icky and sad"="because everyone FEELS icky and sad"
Sigh.
"because everyone icky and sad"="because everyone FEELS icky and sad"
The whole "culture war" is really about preserving the dominance of the white male in American culture. This is the last heyday of an increasingly emasculated group. Their days are numbered. The catch is, there may be nothing worth saving when they're done ruining the country.
Personally, I think we'd be better off if America lost its Only Dominant Superpower status. I'd like to see us become more Europeanized. I'm only 32, so maybe in my lifetime it'll happen.
The whole "culture war" is really about preserving the dominance of the white male in American culture. This is the last heyday of an increasingly emasculated group. Their days are numbered. The catch is, there may be nothing worth saving when they're done ruining the country.
Personally, I think we'd be better off if America lost its Only Dominant Superpower status. I'd like to see us become more Europeanized. I'm only 32, so maybe in my lifetime it'll happen.
I think of it like the story of Dr. Frankenstein. By giving these nutjobs hope that the powerful people who run the country share the vision of a Christian nation, eventually a leader has come out of that who will choose building the Christian nation over fiscal responsibility. Karl Rove's influence is essentially the Republican's Frankenstein, where he built up a monster that was supposed to be harmless, but has become genuinely scary.
I think of it like the story of Dr. Frankenstein. By giving these nutjobs hope that the powerful people who run the country share the vision of a Christian nation, eventually a leader has come out of that who will choose building the Christian nation over fiscal responsibility. Karl Rove's influence is essentially the Republican's Frankenstein, where he built up a monster that was supposed to be harmless, but has become genuinely scary.
Thanks, David, for the link to your article about Matthew Shepard. The fundies are rewriting history as we speak.
Sekmet is right. The south has pitted poor whites and blacks against each other deliberately for over a hundred years, successfully. It's frightening to think they have control of the country right now. Watch what they do to education. Just as they did after the Civil War in rewriting history books to make them look favorable, they'll do it to make gays and women and liberals look unfavorable. I hate living in Georgia. I never used to, but seeing the religious right advance over the last 25 years is a frightening thing. There's no reasoning with them.
Thanks, David, for the link to your article about Matthew Shepard. The fundies are rewriting history as we speak.
Sekmet is right. The south has pitted poor whites and blacks against each other deliberately for over a hundred years, successfully. It's frightening to think they have control of the country right now. Watch what they do to education. Just as they did after the Civil War in rewriting history books to make them look favorable, they'll do it to make gays and women and liberals look unfavorable. I hate living in Georgia. I never used to, but seeing the religious right advance over the last 25 years is a frightening thing. There's no reasoning with them.
forget the federal government... it has been completely stolen from us. our only recourse is at the local level and by becoming responsible consumers.
Wal mart (and businesses like it)needs to be excised from every community.
Local communities can and do pass laws holding corporations responsible for their dirty deeds. In some cases, some communities have revoked "personhood" status for corporations. You know, we DONT HAVE TO ALLOW THEM INTO OUR COMMUNITIES!
forget the federal government... it has been completely stolen from us. our only recourse is at the local level and by becoming responsible consumers.
Wal mart (and businesses like it)needs to be excised from every community.
Local communities can and do pass laws holding corporations responsible for their dirty deeds. In some cases, some communities have revoked "personhood" status for corporations. You know, we DONT HAVE TO ALLOW THEM INTO OUR COMMUNITIES!
I agree with those who say the Walrus and the Carpenter are GOP leaders, fundie or corporate, and all the rest of us are the oysters. The fundie rank and file is byno means going to be exempt from being eaten.
I agree with those who say the Walrus and the Carpenter are GOP leaders, fundie or corporate, and all the rest of us are the oysters. The fundie rank and file is byno means going to be exempt from being eaten.
Larry, I am from Georgia also, and I did my own unofficial poll at work, and all my African-American friends voted the straight Democratic ticket but also for the amendment banning gay marriage- this was and continues to be perplexing to me...
Larry, I am from Georgia also, and I did my own unofficial poll at work, and all my African-American friends voted the straight Democratic ticket but also for the amendment banning gay marriage- this was and continues to be perplexing to me...
Roberta, yeah, I hard the Hispanics voted republican on the gay issue too. Amazing that. You would think they'd remember the white southerners used the Bible to justify enslaving them, but I guess they forgot.
Roberta, yeah, I hard the Hispanics voted republican on the gay issue too. Amazing that. You would think they'd remember the white southerners used the Bible to justify enslaving them, but I guess they forgot.
PS: Maybe I'm too influenced by Franks' What's the Matter with Kansas?, but I tend to think the corporate interests will win out yet again in the GOP.
Of course, I would feel a great deal of Schadenfreude if all the media blather about "values voters" causes the theocons to bite the corporate types in the ass.
Only problem is, the rest of us would pay for the theocon victory, too.
PS: Maybe I'm too influenced by Franks' What's the Matter with Kansas?, but I tend to think the corporate interests will win out yet again in the GOP.
Of course, I would feel a great deal of Schadenfreude if all the media blather about "values voters" causes the theocons to bite the corporate types in the ass.
Only problem is, the rest of us would pay for the theocon victory, too.
They got what they wanted from the fundies so I expect Cheney (whose only god is money) to tell Monkey Boy to pull back and distance himself from them!
Oh, they'll get lip service like they did under Saint Ronald of the Monster Deficit, but nothing more.
Do they really think that the Halliburton White House cares about THEM?
They've been used....played like a cheap fiddle...and they're too stupid to see it.
They got what they wanted from the fundies so I expect Cheney (whose only god is money) to tell Monkey Boy to pull back and distance himself from them!
Oh, they'll get lip service like they did under Saint Ronald of the Monster Deficit, but nothing more.
Do they really think that the Halliburton White House cares about THEM?
They've been used....played like a cheap fiddle...and they're too stupid to see it.
Tena.
Actually , what I meant about respectability was not that Pat and Co have made themselves more respectable by becoming more moderate but that the american socio-political spectrum has moved so far to the right that they don't seem that extreme anymore and that's what really is scary about the current situation.
As for the best weapon against them being exposure , you're absolutely right. They prate that there is no right to privacy , they want to tell us what to do in our bedrooms ? Then so be it. Let's turn our attention to the sordid goings on in theirs. We must hound them , sniff in their garbage , follow with cameras , fish for every juicy story. And then put out ads resembling roughly to :
"A.......... Serial adulterer
B...........Gambling Addict
C...........Child Molester
Should they-or anyone , have the right to tell you who to marry ? how many children to have , if any ? when to have sex ? what to read , watch , listen and play ? OR do you think that there should be 2 sets of rules , one for them and one for you? "
Tena.
Actually , what I meant about respectability was not that Pat and Co have made themselves more respectable by becoming more moderate but that the american socio-political spectrum has moved so far to the right that they don't seem that extreme anymore and that's what really is scary about the current situation.
As for the best weapon against them being exposure , you're absolutely right. They prate that there is no right to privacy , they want to tell us what to do in our bedrooms ? Then so be it. Let's turn our attention to the sordid goings on in theirs. We must hound them , sniff in their garbage , follow with cameras , fish for every juicy story. And then put out ads resembling roughly to :
"A.......... Serial adulterer
B...........Gambling Addict
C...........Child Molester
Should they-or anyone , have the right to tell you who to marry ? how many children to have , if any ? when to have sex ? what to read , watch , listen and play ? OR do you think that there should be 2 sets of rules , one for them and one for you? "
It really isn't going to be all that much of a spectacle. Those with the most influence on the fundamentalist side have made one thing perfectly clear: they want, above all else, to control appointments to the courts. If Bush delivers on that, then there will be no objection from inside the GOP tent to whatever business interests want-- except no special favors for the entertinment industry will be allowed.
It really isn't going to be all that much of a spectacle. Those with the most influence on the fundamentalist side have made one thing perfectly clear: they want, above all else, to control appointments to the courts. If Bush delivers on that, then there will be no objection from inside the GOP tent to whatever business interests want-- except no special favors for the entertinment industry will be allowed.
Beware the beast, Neotheocon -- a power-hungry paradox, a Big Government Conservative. An unsettling admixture of corporatism and theocracy, he will feed on the debts of our children to fund tax breaks for the rich, yachts for the president, and social controls on our families. He will demand a bizarro-world Soviet society, where religion is inculcated and conglomerated capitalism is freed. Shun him, for he is the harbinger of fascism.
Beware the beast, Neotheocon -- a power-hungry paradox, a Big Government Conservative. An unsettling admixture of corporatism and theocracy, he will feed on the debts of our children to fund tax breaks for the rich, yachts for the president, and social controls on our families. He will demand a bizarro-world Soviet society, where religion is inculcated and conglomerated capitalism is freed. Shun him, for he is the harbinger of fascism.
This use of Carroll's Walrus poem is apt, since William Manchester in his GREAT second volume of The Last Lion, uses it throughout to accompany the history of Tory defeatist appeasement throughout the 30s, as Hitler gained power.
IF the Brits had at any point put up a struggle, the German generals would have iced the Fuhrer, and it would have all been over, long before WWII. Millions and millions of lives would have been saved.
But the defeatist appeaser is only trying to protect the appearances it is accustomed to. It lies to itself, and then sleeps in the lies.
For the rest of us, 4 years of HOOEY is not convincing me to let them rape my sister and kill my brother for Zeus. It's not convincing me that I should take FAKE ELECTIONS like a media-ted chicken with my head chopped off.
And I don't believe that Americans are wearing the armbands for Bushliar like the media says. NO ONE saw him pack a rally; they were TINY.
WE are the majority. Rather than defeatist appeasement, we simply have to INSIST on our rights, and if that don't get it, we'll have to INSIST on our rights. And if that still don't get it, we'll have to INSIST ON OUR RIGHTS some more.
George Fuckwad Bushliar is one slice of apple from the future of his karmas. He's a thug; he's not a god.
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This use of Carroll's Walrus poem is apt, since William Manchester in his GREAT second volume of The Last Lion, uses it throughout to accompany the history of Tory defeatist appeasement throughout the 30s, as Hitler gained power.
IF the Brits had at any point put up a struggle, the German generals would have iced the Fuhrer, and it would have all been over, long before WWII. Millions and millions of lives would have been saved.
But the defeatist appeaser is only trying to protect the appearances it is accustomed to. It lies to itself, and then sleeps in the lies.
For the rest of us, 4 years of HOOEY is not convincing me to let them rape my sister and kill my brother for Zeus. It's not convincing me that I should take FAKE ELECTIONS like a media-ted chicken with my head chopped off.
And I don't believe that Americans are wearing the armbands for Bushliar like the media says. NO ONE saw him pack a rally; they were TINY.
WE are the majority. Rather than defeatist appeasement, we simply have to INSIST on our rights, and if that don't get it, we'll have to INSIST on our rights. And if that still don't get it, we'll have to INSIST ON OUR RIGHTS some more.
George Fuckwad Bushliar is one slice of apple from the future of his karmas. He's a thug; he's not a god.
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The Republican Paarty is the party of Big Business. Since Big Business represents a minority, it has gotten the religious right to join.
Once the religious right sees that Big Business does not really care about the religious right, there will be separation.
Who will be on top? Who brings the money? The Republican Party will remain the party of Big Business.
The Republican Paarty is the party of Big Business. Since Big Business represents a minority, it has gotten the religious right to join.
Once the religious right sees that Big Business does not really care about the religious right, there will be separation.
Who will be on top? Who brings the money? The Republican Party will remain the party of Big Business.
George W. Bush is the carpenter, Karl Rove is the Walrus, and the oysters are whomever Rove wants them to be.
George W. Bush is the carpenter, Karl Rove is the Walrus, and the oysters are whomever Rove wants them to be.
Hostetler is hardly original: Andrew Jackon's "Justice Marshall has made his decision ... now let him enforce it" was there first.
Hecate: Don't express any doubts about the meme that the Religious Right gave Republicans victory. As far as we are concerned, for the next four years it serves our interests for this to be the operative truth (and the fundies themselves are only too happy to play along). The more the Republican Party becomes the party of the religious right, the more opposition to them redounds to the benefit of the Democratic party.
Hostetler is hardly original: Andrew Jackon's "Justice Marshall has made his decision ... now let him enforce it" was there first.
Hecate: Don't express any doubts about the meme that the Religious Right gave Republicans victory. As far as we are concerned, for the next four years it serves our interests for this to be the operative truth (and the fundies themselves are only too happy to play along). The more the Republican Party becomes the party of the religious right, the more opposition to them redounds to the benefit of the Democratic party.
The Carpenter is blind Corporatism, which finds odd bedfellows from time to time, and is utterly lacking in seeing the environmental impact his present appetites predicts. The Walrus isn't a walrus in this day and age, but and Elephant seal. He is an immoral liar happily directing the masses to speak of pretty things when they are in no condition to appreciate the essence of his true desire: self satisfaction. The oysters du jour are the fundies-- fat little creatures who believe that their efforts will be rewarded.
The interesting part is that the Narrator is a Democrat. A deep thinking sentient being of principle and collective might who eventually catches up with the Carpenter and forces him to clean up the beach and then puts the elephant seal in the situation of choosing his lost liberty or a slavery at the Washington Zoo.
The Carpenter is blind Corporatism, which finds odd bedfellows from time to time, and is utterly lacking in seeing the environmental impact his present appetites predicts. The Walrus isn't a walrus in this day and age, but and Elephant seal. He is an immoral liar happily directing the masses to speak of pretty things when they are in no condition to appreciate the essence of his true desire: self satisfaction. The oysters du jour are the fundies-- fat little creatures who believe that their efforts will be rewarded.
The interesting part is that the Narrator is a Democrat. A deep thinking sentient being of principle and collective might who eventually catches up with the Carpenter and forces him to clean up the beach and then puts the elephant seal in the situation of choosing his lost liberty or a slavery at the Washington Zoo.
""At the end of the day, we're saying the court can't enforce its opinions.""
"(Chief Justice) Taney has his decision. Let's see him enforce it." --Andrew Jackson, 1832
(over Worcester vs. Georgia, Taney's failed attempt to prevent the Trail of Tears genocide of assimilated Cherokee (and the theft of their highly-profitable lumber yards), which marked the first time the Executive simply ignored the Supreme Court, AFAIK).
Also very Jacksonian is the Spoils System that he inaugurated. And, of course, Turncoat Z. Miller, with his duel challenge -- rightwing Jacksonianism at its finest.
Rove has wetdreams over Jackson's manly, racist totalitarianism.
Here's Senator Henry Clay on Jackson, see if you can spot the similarities to a certain George Fuckwad Bushliar:
"Ignorant, passionate, hypocritical, corrupt, and easily swayed by the base men who surround him."
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""At the end of the day, we're saying the court can't enforce its opinions.""
"(Chief Justice) Taney has his decision. Let's see him enforce it." --Andrew Jackson, 1832
(over Worcester vs. Georgia, Taney's failed attempt to prevent the Trail of Tears genocide of assimilated Cherokee (and the theft of their highly-profitable lumber yards), which marked the first time the Executive simply ignored the Supreme Court, AFAIK).
Also very Jacksonian is the Spoils System that he inaugurated. And, of course, Turncoat Z. Miller, with his duel challenge -- rightwing Jacksonianism at its finest.
Rove has wetdreams over Jackson's manly, racist totalitarianism.
Here's Senator Henry Clay on Jackson, see if you can spot the similarities to a certain George Fuckwad Bushliar:
"Ignorant, passionate, hypocritical, corrupt, and easily swayed by the base men who surround him."
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This clever little poem helps me to see more clearly than ever that the only people who really benefit from the political system in its current condition are the people who pay for campaigns and those who either run for office or help them do so.
The rest of us are just oysters in a basket, waiting to be eaten.
This clever little poem helps me to see more clearly than ever that the only people who really benefit from the political system in its current condition are the people who pay for campaigns and those who either run for office or help them do so.
The rest of us are just oysters in a basket, waiting to be eaten.
"The rest of us are just oysters in a basket, waiting to be eaten." --Jon R. Koppenhoefer
Untrue. Turn the telescope around and look through the right end.
"The arc of history is long, but it bends toward justice." (MLK Jr., American Hero for Freedom).
As true today as forty years ago.
Bushliar and the entire Iran planners clique have committed grave crimes against the United States. That's not just 'who benefits from the political system.' Its the Jacksonian Spoils system, but unlike Jackson, the people DIDN'T elect Bushliar or his gang of theives in EITHER of his two treasonous coups.
So, yeah, the government is corrupt, but the people needing impeachment deserve more of your hostility.
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"The rest of us are just oysters in a basket, waiting to be eaten." --Jon R. Koppenhoefer
Untrue. Turn the telescope around and look through the right end.
"The arc of history is long, but it bends toward justice." (MLK Jr., American Hero for Freedom).
As true today as forty years ago.
Bushliar and the entire Iran planners clique have committed grave crimes against the United States. That's not just 'who benefits from the political system.' Its the Jacksonian Spoils system, but unlike Jackson, the people DIDN'T elect Bushliar or his gang of theives in EITHER of his two treasonous coups.
So, yeah, the government is corrupt, but the people needing impeachment deserve more of your hostility.
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"Hecate: Don't express any doubts about the meme that the Religious Right gave Republicans victory. --SullyWatch"
Why, is Jerry Falwell the CEO of Diebold?
This was VOTE FRAUD, not demographic shift.
John Kerry WON by landslide, as all the exit polls showed.
A voting system with no paper trail AND no exit polls (as in 2002, and 2004) is not a legal system, especially as it is administered by one party, and some complicit SecStates who may have been threatened or bribed.
VOTE FRAUD
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"Hecate: Don't express any doubts about the meme that the Religious Right gave Republicans victory. --SullyWatch"
Why, is Jerry Falwell the CEO of Diebold?
This was VOTE FRAUD, not demographic shift.
John Kerry WON by landslide, as all the exit polls showed.
A voting system with no paper trail AND no exit polls (as in 2002, and 2004) is not a legal system, especially as it is administered by one party, and some complicit SecStates who may have been threatened or bribed.
VOTE FRAUD
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"The rest of us are just oysters in a basket, waiting to be eaten." --Jon R. Koppenhoefer
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But who will be eaten first? ...
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"The rest of us are just oysters in a basket, waiting to be eaten." --Jon R. Koppenhoefer
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But who will be eaten first? ...
http://www.geocities.com/
tribhis...hulhutract.html
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