I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Is "I think, therefore I am" redundant? Would not just "I" suffice?
Is "I think, therefore I am" redundant? Would not just "I" suffice?
Bush declared fit for duty in "annual" physical. Well, physically, perhaps.
Bush declared fit for duty in "annual" physical. Well, physically, perhaps.
I was in the shower, lathering my manly pride with the loofah, thinking of tight buttocks and anal sex when...uh, sorry, wrong thread.
I was in the shower, lathering my manly pride with the loofah, thinking of tight buttocks and anal sex when...uh, sorry, wrong thread.
And Trogdor smote the Kerik, and all was laid to burnination...
And Trogdor smote the Kerik, and all was laid to burnination...
Well, there is some criticism of the cogito that it assumes the existence of a self to prove the existence of a self. Tautalogical or question begging would be a more apt framing of the criticism, though.
Well, there is some criticism of the cogito that it assumes the existence of a self to prove the existence of a self. Tautalogical or question begging would be a more apt framing of the criticism, though.
Which do you prefer: "judgement" or "judgment"?
"judgment" has a certian aerodynamisticity - it looks strong and clean.
"judgement" is more earthy and sullen. It sits there with the weight of authority.
Which do you prefer: "judgement" or "judgment"?
"judgment" has a certian aerodynamisticity - it looks strong and clean.
"judgement" is more earthy and sullen. It sits there with the weight of authority.
Oh where, Oh where has my freedom gone
Oh where, Oh where can it be....
Oh where, Oh where has my freedom gone
Oh where, Oh where can it be....
Carpbasman -
But isn't the assumption of the self the proof of self? if I am not assuming I am, who is?
Carpbasman -
But isn't the assumption of the self the proof of self? if I am not assuming I am, who is?
I think, therefore I didn't vote Bush.
I think, therefore I didn't vote Bush.
Snow and mix up here in "da gred whid nord". Question in one of the papers up here this AM--"What NYC residents mean when they say New York--Answer, Manhattan. Isn't that what most 'muricans think when they hear New York? If they only knew...6 deer in the back yard this mornin'...turkey tracks all over the place.
Snow and mix up here in "da gred whid nord". Question in one of the papers up here this AM--"What NYC residents mean when they say New York--Answer, Manhattan. Isn't that what most 'muricans think when they hear New York? If they only knew...6 deer in the back yard this mornin'...turkey tracks all over the place.
Maybe you only think you're thinking. If that's the case...ah, never mind.
I drink, therefore I am.
Maybe you only think you're thinking. If that's the case...ah, never mind.
I drink, therefore I am.
Beautiful, MrX.
Beautiful, MrX.
After reading some wingnut talking about how the Arabs lack certain... necessities for democracy (he didn't have the exact Al Campanis phrasing, but it was in that general ballpark, so to speak), I started to think that maybe there's *another* real reason behind the Iraqi invasion.
Iraq, with it's severe religious and ethnic divisions, is a textbook example of a country that is almost impossible to democratize, and yet we supposedly invaded it for precisely that reason? I don't think so.
I think the real objective could very well be a spectacular failure of democracy in Iraq, to *prove* that Muslims/Arabs are incapable of democracy, and thus letting Bush off the hook for his abject failure to even *attempt* to promote democracy in countries like Saudi Arabia, Egypt, or Pakistan.
After all, why waste all that time & lip service energy riling up all the Arab Street, when they're not even capable of democracy anyway? Better to just not rock the boat, and let them keep on providing us with oil and, well, with whatever it is that Pakistan provides.
After reading some wingnut talking about how the Arabs lack certain... necessities for democracy (he didn't have the exact Al Campanis phrasing, but it was in that general ballpark, so to speak), I started to think that maybe there's *another* real reason behind the Iraqi invasion.
Iraq, with it's severe religious and ethnic divisions, is a textbook example of a country that is almost impossible to democratize, and yet we supposedly invaded it for precisely that reason? I don't think so.
I think the real objective could very well be a spectacular failure of democracy in Iraq, to *prove* that Muslims/Arabs are incapable of democracy, and thus letting Bush off the hook for his abject failure to even *attempt* to promote democracy in countries like Saudi Arabia, Egypt, or Pakistan.
After all, why waste all that time & lip service energy riling up all the Arab Street, when they're not even capable of democracy anyway? Better to just not rock the boat, and let them keep on providing us with oil and, well, with whatever it is that Pakistan provides.
Or, as the Moody Blues put it, "I am..therefore, I think I am..I think..."
Or, as the Moody Blues put it, "I am..therefore, I think I am..I think..."
The Yushchenko poisoning is one of the oddest stories I ever remember. Did they think that people would not vote for him if he was ugly? If you are going to poison him, why not with something that will kill him?
The Yushchenko poisoning is one of the oddest stories I ever remember. Did they think that people would not vote for him if he was ugly? If you are going to poison him, why not with something that will kill him?
If you are going to poison him, why not with something that will kill him?
Why, that would be suspicious.
If you are going to poison him, why not with something that will kill him?
Why, that would be suspicious.
Gee, that is too bad about Rudy's boy, but at least Rudy will have more company on his:
I am Rudy G. and I am here to manage your terror threat du jour
What an opportunistic scumbag. Somebody should let Rudy know that he can't kiss enough ass to become presnit of the USA. He is too crazy for us and not crazy (or WASPish) enough for the wingnuts.
Gee, that is too bad about Rudy's boy, but at least Rudy will have more company on his:
I am Rudy G. and I am here to manage your terror threat du jour
What an opportunistic scumbag. Somebody should let Rudy know that he can't kiss enough ass to become presnit of the USA. He is too crazy for us and not crazy (or WASPish) enough for the wingnuts.
That's an interesting thought, Eli, but if that's the case, Bush would be abandoning an extraordinarily important propaganda justification for invading the world. That is, when other countries go to war, they do it for personal gain; when we go to war, it's to spread peace and democracy because we're the good guys. I just don't see any US administration giving up on the concept of "making the world safe for democracy." It's worked too darned well in the past.
That's an interesting thought, Eli, but if that's the case, Bush would be abandoning an extraordinarily important propaganda justification for invading the world. That is, when other countries go to war, they do it for personal gain; when we go to war, it's to spread peace and democracy because we're the good guys. I just don't see any US administration giving up on the concept of "making the world safe for democracy." It's worked too darned well in the past.
when did judgement become judgment?
Judgment looks like Judgahment, whereas, the e gives it a soft gee sound, and more civil, I think. Therefore I yam, said the sweet potato to the casserole.
when did judgement become judgment?
Judgment looks like Judgahment, whereas, the e gives it a soft gee sound, and more civil, I think. Therefore I yam, said the sweet potato to the casserole.
euphronius,
"Is "I think, therefore I am" redundant? Would not just "I" suffice?"
Good point. But just having an "I" would make the circularity of the argument a little too obvious. You couldn't help but notice the conclusion just *was* the same damn thing as the only premise.
That's what makes a great philosopher. Being able to obscure your bad arguments.
euphronius,
"Is "I think, therefore I am" redundant? Would not just "I" suffice?"
Good point. But just having an "I" would make the circularity of the argument a little too obvious. You couldn't help but notice the conclusion just *was* the same damn thing as the only premise.
That's what makes a great philosopher. Being able to obscure your bad arguments.
Good point, Ron. Then how about as simply validating an excuse for consistent failure? "We're doing the best we can, but introducing democracy to these ragheads is hard. It's hard work."
Good point, Ron. Then how about as simply validating an excuse for consistent failure? "We're doing the best we can, but introducing democracy to these ragheads is hard. It's hard work."
Well, there is some criticism of the cogito that it assumes the existence of a self to prove the existence of a self. Tautalogical or question begging would be a more apt framing of the criticism, though.
The cogito does technically beg the question, but only in the same way that every deductive argument does, since by definition the conclusion of a valid deductive argument cannot provide any information that wasn't already present in the premises.
This is why deductive (valid) arguments are 100% certain, because it's absolutely impossible for the conclusion to be false if the premises are true, because, in the end, the conclusion really isn't saying anything different than the premises.
This might technically make the cogito 'tautological', but then so is every mathematical proof as well.
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Well, there is some criticism of the cogito that it assumes the existence of a self to prove the existence of a self. Tautalogical or question begging would be a more apt framing of the criticism, though.
The cogito does technically beg the question, but only in the same way that every deductive argument does, since by definition the conclusion of a valid deductive argument cannot provide any information that wasn't already present in the premises.
This is why deductive (valid) arguments are 100% certain, because it's absolutely impossible for the conclusion to be false if the premises are true, because, in the end, the conclusion really isn't saying anything different than the premises.
This might technically make the cogito 'tautological', but then so is every mathematical proof as well.
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And Trogdor smote the Kerik, and all was laid to burnination...
Zeus M. | Email | Homepage | 12.11.04 - 5:22 pm | #
Strongbad rules.
Who holds more "conservative values" Bush or Clinton?
And Trogdor smote the Kerik, and all was laid to burnination...
Zeus M. | Email | Homepage | 12.11.04 - 5:22 pm | #
Strongbad rules.
Who holds more "conservative values" Bush or Clinton?
That's what makes a great philosopher. Being able to obscure your bad arguments.
Scott | Email | Homepage | 12.11.04 - 5:33 pm | #
And thus sums up, basically, the minor I got in philosophy. More or less. The ability to bullshit better than the other fellow's ability to bullshit.
That's what makes a great philosopher. Being able to obscure your bad arguments.
Scott | Email | Homepage | 12.11.04 - 5:33 pm | #
And thus sums up, basically, the minor I got in philosophy. More or less. The ability to bullshit better than the other fellow's ability to bullshit.
I am, therefore I think, unless of course you are a wingnut, wherein being and thinking are mutually exclusive.
I am, therefore I think, unless of course you are a wingnut, wherein being and thinking are mutually exclusive.
The Bush version would be: "I don't think. Therefore I am a strong leader."
The Bush version would be: "I don't think. Therefore I am a strong leader."
Iraq, with it's severe religious and ethnic divisions, is a textbook example of a country that is almost impossible to democratize, and yet we supposedly invaded it for precisely that reason? I don't think so.
No. We didn't. That's just the revisionist reason. We invaded because chimpy saw a "gathering threat" which always made me think of hunters and gatherers on the rampage.
Liars, liars. liars.
Iraq, with it's severe religious and ethnic divisions, is a textbook example of a country that is almost impossible to democratize, and yet we supposedly invaded it for precisely that reason? I don't think so.
No. We didn't. That's just the revisionist reason. We invaded because chimpy saw a "gathering threat" which always made me think of hunters and gatherers on the rampage.
Liars, liars. liars.
I know we didn't invade to promote democracy, 4lg - I know that!
But it is the Official Invasion Reason Du Jour. At least I think it is, unless they've moved onto something even more ludicrous.
I know we didn't invade to promote democracy, 4lg - I know that!
But it is the Official Invasion Reason Du Jour. At least I think it is, unless they've moved onto something even more ludicrous.
Oh, and Teen Girl Squad is absolute bloody genius ("Ow! My skin!")
Oh, and Teen Girl Squad is absolute bloody genius ("Ow! My skin!")
How about "I believe everthing Spawn Hannity says, therefore I am" (an idiot)
How about "I believe everthing Spawn Hannity says, therefore I am" (an idiot)
so if not kerik...
who?
elmer fudd...
oliver hardy....
the rock...
so if not kerik...
who?
elmer fudd...
oliver hardy....
the rock...
In the wingnut universe valid deductive arguments are a thing of the past. You can accept all the premises and deny the conclusion.
In fact, you cannot be accepted into the wingnut secret society unless you agree to do away with valid arguments (otherwise you cannot be trusted).
In the wingnut universe valid deductive arguments are a thing of the past. You can accept all the premises and deny the conclusion.
In fact, you cannot be accepted into the wingnut secret society unless you agree to do away with valid arguments (otherwise you cannot be trusted).
I think, therefore Saddam has nukes and gays are evil.
I think, therefore Saddam has nukes and gays are evil.
Since our wartime president has now been declared to be "fit for duty", the obvious question to ask is when does Bush's National Guard Unit get called to the Middle East, with aWol attached to his unit?
Since our wartime president has now been declared to be "fit for duty", the obvious question to ask is when does Bush's National Guard Unit get called to the Middle East, with aWol attached to his unit?
Eli -- No dumber than CIA thinking Fidel would lose his power if his beard fell out. Some secularization of the Samson myth, I guess . . .
Eli -- No dumber than CIA thinking Fidel would lose his power if his beard fell out. Some secularization of the Samson myth, I guess . . .
Wingnut Logic (from my friend the Bush voter)..but they could have hidden the WMD in the desert, and Sadam gased his own people. The best was "well this war isn't nearly as bad as Vietnam, in Vietnam we last this many soldiers in a month!"
Wingnut Logic (from my friend the Bush voter)..but they could have hidden the WMD in the desert, and Sadam gased his own people. The best was "well this war isn't nearly as bad as Vietnam, in Vietnam we last this many soldiers in a month!"
Eli- I think the reason du jour is, "Freedom is on the march!!"
Which also gives me strange mental visions of marching statues.
These people have no respect for language.
Eli- I think the reason du jour is, "Freedom is on the march!!"
Which also gives me strange mental visions of marching statues.
These people have no respect for language.
doh....last = lost
doh....last = lost
Nah, "Freedom is on the march" is the status report, but not an actual reason.
Nah, "Freedom is on the march" is the status report, but not an actual reason.
Dole Office Clerk: Occupation?
Comicus: Stand up philosopher.
Dole Office Clerk: What?
Comicus: Stand up philosopher. I coalesce the vapors of human existence into a viable and meaningful comprehension.
Dole Office Clerk: Oh, a BULLSHIT artist!
Dole Office Clerk: Occupation?
Comicus: Stand up philosopher.
Dole Office Clerk: What?
Comicus: Stand up philosopher. I coalesce the vapors of human existence into a viable and meaningful comprehension.
Dole Office Clerk: Oh, a BULLSHIT artist!
In fact, you cannot be accepted into the wingnut secret society unless you agree to do away with valid arguments (otherwise you cannot be trusted).
The GOP really has become an entirely faith-based party. The stuff about not living in the 'reality based community' is no joke. These people actually do look down on logic and evidence as guiding factors in the formation of beliefs, principles, and goals.
This frightening embrace of total irrationality is a sign that their ideas and principles really are bankrupt. They've finally reached the last resort of those who are wrong -- simply deny rationality itself. Since it is rationality that shows that they are wrong, it is the only option that is really left to them.
In and of itself, this would just be pathetic and laughable. What's scary to me is that it seems to be so easy to convince others to do exactly the same thing. About 51% of them, at last 'count' (STILL not trusting this 'election'!).
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In fact, you cannot be accepted into the wingnut secret society unless you agree to do away with valid arguments (otherwise you cannot be trusted).
The GOP really has become an entirely faith-based party. The stuff about not living in the 'reality based community' is no joke. These people actually do look down on logic and evidence as guiding factors in the formation of beliefs, principles, and goals.
This frightening embrace of total irrationality is a sign that their ideas and principles really are bankrupt. They've finally reached the last resort of those who are wrong -- simply deny rationality itself. Since it is rationality that shows that they are wrong, it is the only option that is really left to them.
In and of itself, this would just be pathetic and laughable. What's scary to me is that it seems to be so easy to convince others to do exactly the same thing. About 51% of them, at last 'count' (STILL not trusting this 'election'!).
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Shaw:
If someone else hasn't already said it, when "potato" became "potatoe".
Shaw:
If someone else hasn't already said it, when "potato" became "potatoe".
Freedom is on the march...
That is the status report on the insurgent side as well. Lots of people dying in the name of freedom.
Freedom is on the march...
That is the status report on the insurgent side as well. Lots of people dying in the name of freedom.
AAR needs more anti drug spots and more commercials.
AAR needs more anti drug spots and more commercials.
The indoctrination started with Rush Limbaugh and just keeps growing. Fox News, Laura Ingram, Lars Larson etc.
It's easy to go along with the flow, hey these people are on the radio and TV, and I like what I'm hearing, I'm tired of thinking, tired of feeling responsible for the worlds' problems. Fuck it, I'm happy now and Bush is killing the terrorists.
The indoctrination started with Rush Limbaugh and just keeps growing. Fox News, Laura Ingram, Lars Larson etc.
It's easy to go along with the flow, hey these people are on the radio and TV, and I like what I'm hearing, I'm tired of thinking, tired of feeling responsible for the worlds' problems. Fuck it, I'm happy now and Bush is killing the terrorists.
Well, the criticism isn't that the Cogito is deductive. Deductive arguments are 100% certain because if you except the premises you have to accept the conclusion. The criticism of the cogito is that the conclusion (I exist) is assumed for the premise (I think). That is, that you are assuming that there is a self to think to come to the conclusion that there is a self that exists.
Somewhat like arguing "Unicorns have horns, therefore unicorns exist." But not quite like that since Descartes actual argument isn't quite structured like that but more like "there is a substance which thinks, therefore that substance exists, and that substance is me" (although I'm 5 years away from my degree in philosophy and have quite gladly never looked back, so I might have gotten that wrong)
Well, the criticism isn't that the Cogito is deductive. Deductive arguments are 100% certain because if you except the premises you have to accept the conclusion. The criticism of the cogito is that the conclusion (I exist) is assumed for the premise (I think). That is, that you are assuming that there is a self to think to come to the conclusion that there is a self that exists.
Somewhat like arguing "Unicorns have horns, therefore unicorns exist." But not quite like that since Descartes actual argument isn't quite structured like that but more like "there is a substance which thinks, therefore that substance exists, and that substance is me" (although I'm 5 years away from my degree in philosophy and have quite gladly never looked back, so I might have gotten that wrong)
I have it on good authority that Bernie Kerik's replacement is this guy.
I have it on good authority that Bernie Kerik's replacement is this guy.
Grey,
Yeah it is more scary then laughable. Even though they will give us endless opportunities to laugh, and we should do so to keep our spirts high, at the end of day their irrationality is no laughing matter.
BTW, the idea that some of the democratic leadership still believes that we can reason with these people is even more scary. The wingnuts are certifiably crazy, and this other group is well on their way.
Reasoning with irrational people leads to insanity.
Grey,
Yeah it is more scary then laughable. Even though they will give us endless opportunities to laugh, and we should do so to keep our spirts high, at the end of day their irrationality is no laughing matter.
BTW, the idea that some of the democratic leadership still believes that we can reason with these people is even more scary. The wingnuts are certifiably crazy, and this other group is well on their way.
Reasoning with irrational people leads to insanity.
Accept the premises.
Accept the premises.
Is "I think, therefore I am" redundant? Would not just "I" suffice?
Long ago, Chuang Chou dreamed he was a butterfly fluttering among trees, doing as he pleased, completely unaware of a Chuang Chou. A sudden awakening, and there, looking a little out of sorts, was Chuang Chou. Now, I don't know whether it is Chou who dreamed he was a butterfly, or whether a butterfly dreams he's Chuang Chou. But between Chuang Chou and the butterfly, we ought to be able to find some sort of distinction. This is what's known as Things Changing.
Is "I think, therefore I am" redundant? Would not just "I" suffice?
Long ago, Chuang Chou dreamed he was a butterfly fluttering among trees, doing as he pleased, completely unaware of a Chuang Chou. A sudden awakening, and there, looking a little out of sorts, was Chuang Chou. Now, I don't know whether it is Chou who dreamed he was a butterfly, or whether a butterfly dreams he's Chuang Chou. But between Chuang Chou and the butterfly, we ought to be able to find some sort of distinction. This is what's known as Things Changing.
my cogito can beat up your cogito.
my cogito can beat up your cogito.
(don't repeat that, I'm pretty sure cogfights are illegal)
(don't repeat that, I'm pretty sure cogfights are illegal)
Cogito Ergo Dim Sum
I think, therefore I think I'll have Chinese.
Cogito Ergo Dim Sum
I think, therefore I think I'll have Chinese.
People in Kansas weren't always so ignorant.
The Garden of Eden
Dinsmoor really comes into his own when exposing the hypocrisy of big business and government, or, as he likes to call them, the "Trusts."
The Trusts are represented as amorphous multi-limbed alien creatures, wrapping their greedy tentacles around everything in sight. In some cases the "little people" fight back, as in the inspiring Liberty Tree, which features a Goddess of Liberty spearing a Trust in the head while voters attack its flanks with ballots. But the high point of the Garden is the devastatingly satirical Crucifixion of Labor, which features four human "Grafters" (a doctor, lawyer, banker, and preacher) nailing the Christlike figure of Labor to a crosslike tree. This is truly turn of the century populism at its finest.
If you're ever driving across Kansas along I 70, stop and check it out.
People in Kansas weren't always so ignorant.
The Garden of Eden
Dinsmoor really comes into his own when exposing the hypocrisy of big business and government, or, as he likes to call them, the "Trusts."
The Trusts are represented as amorphous multi-limbed alien creatures, wrapping their greedy tentacles around everything in sight. In some cases the "little people" fight back, as in the inspiring Liberty Tree, which features a Goddess of Liberty spearing a Trust in the head while voters attack its flanks with ballots. But the high point of the Garden is the devastatingly satirical Crucifixion of Labor, which features four human "Grafters" (a doctor, lawyer, banker, and preacher) nailing the Christlike figure of Labor to a crosslike tree. This is truly turn of the century populism at its finest.
If you're ever driving across Kansas along I 70, stop and check it out.
With apologies to Lime Rickey
There once was a philospher named Descartes
Who used radical doubt as a start
He said the cogito
And found his own ego
Sitting around in the dark.
With apologies to Lime Rickey
There once was a philospher named Descartes
Who used radical doubt as a start
He said the cogito
And found his own ego
Sitting around in the dark.
What happens if you mix cognito with incognito?
What happens if you mix cognito with incognito?
So Descartes goes up to a hot dog stand and orders a hot dog. The vendor asks him if wants relish on it. Descartes says "I think not" and disappears.
So Descartes goes up to a hot dog stand and orders a hot dog. The vendor asks him if wants relish on it. Descartes says "I think not" and disappears.
rorschach -- you do know both parts of the Zen Buddhist hot dog joke, right?
rorschach -- you do know both parts of the Zen Buddhist hot dog joke, right?
I have it on good authority that Bernie Kerik's replacement is this guy.
I have it on good authority that Bernie Kerik's replacement is this guy.
rorschach -- you do know both parts of the Zen Buddhist hot dog joke, right?
Yeah. I only barely managed to resist...
rorschach -- you do know both parts of the Zen Buddhist hot dog joke, right?
Yeah. I only barely managed to resist...
Heh. Just got online, open thread, and now I get called away. Sigh. Have fun, guys -- back in an hour or two.
Heh. Just got online, open thread, and now I get called away. Sigh. Have fun, guys -- back in an hour or two.
Accept the premises.
Question authority.
"When they give you ruled paper, write the other way."
rorschach/filkertom -
Okay, you guys are making me feel like it's Thanksgiving and I'm sitting at the little table. Out with it...
Accept the premises.
Question authority.
"When they give you ruled paper, write the other way."
rorschach/filkertom -
Okay, you guys are making me feel like it's Thanksgiving and I'm sitting at the little table. Out with it...
So anyway, from the Historical Irony Dept, we are making Iraq safe for Communism:
The communists, Iraq's oldest political party, have submitted a list of 257 candidates drawn from across ethnic and faith groups for the January elections and joined under the banner, Union of the People, newspapers said today.
"The Union of the People list includes personalities of all faiths and all communities," party secretary Hamid Majid Mussa told the daily Al-Madaa, without saying who would head the new group.
So anyway, from the Historical Irony Dept, we are making Iraq safe for Communism:
The communists, Iraq's oldest political party, have submitted a list of 257 candidates drawn from across ethnic and faith groups for the January elections and joined under the banner, Union of the People, newspapers said today.
"The Union of the People list includes personalities of all faiths and all communities," party secretary Hamid Majid Mussa told the daily Al-Madaa, without saying who would head the new group.
Yeah. I only barely managed to resist...
Resistance is futile.
"But, then, so is everything else..."
--Ecclesiastes
Yeah. I only barely managed to resist...
Resistance is futile.
"But, then, so is everything else..."
--Ecclesiastes
"To be is to do"
--Plato
"To do is to be"
--Sartre
"Do be do be do"
--Sinatra
"To be is to do"
--Plato
"To do is to be"
--Sartre
"Do be do be do"
--Sinatra
cogito ergo sum
-Descarte
cogito ergo smegma.
-Liddy Dole
You are what you do.
-Aristotle
You are what you do do.
-Liddy Dole
cogito ergo sum
-Descarte
cogito ergo smegma.
-Liddy Dole
You are what you do.
-Aristotle
You are what you do do.
-Liddy Dole
Communists in Iraq........Oh no, another wingnut reason for this war.
Communists in Iraq........Oh no, another wingnut reason for this war.
Leibniz said that the Monad.
Is why we should really be glad
That in everything curled
Is the best of all worlds
Even in my left gonad.
Leibniz said that the Monad.
Is why we should really be glad
That in everything curled
Is the best of all worlds
Even in my left gonad.
Bush meets Descartes:
I think I am a fabulous president, therefore I am.
Bush meets Descartes:
I think I am a fabulous president, therefore I am.
My 28-month-old talks like Homestar. I couldn't be more proud!
My 28-month-old talks like Homestar. I couldn't be more proud!
But seriously. Does anyone else here support Americans United for the Separation of Church and State?
Just got their most recent newslettery-type magazine, and my god! It is even more frightening than usual! You have to look into this. The fundies are even scarier than you know.
But seriously. Does anyone else here support Americans United for the Separation of Church and State?
Just got their most recent newslettery-type magazine, and my god! It is even more frightening than usual! You have to look into this. The fundies are even scarier than you know.
The Zen Master goes up to the (vegan) hotdog stand, and the guy says, "What'll you have, Mac?"
The Zen Master replies, "Make me one with everything."
Did someone already tell this one?
The Zen Master goes up to the (vegan) hotdog stand, and the guy says, "What'll you have, Mac?"
The Zen Master replies, "Make me one with everything."
Did someone already tell this one?
Mmm... I like my nirvana with onions.
Mmm... I like my nirvana with onions.
The truth makes you cry...
The truth makes you cry...
Bush meets Descartes:
and says, "What, are you a Frenchy or something?"
Bush meets Descartes:
and says, "What, are you a Frenchy or something?"
Damn, somebody got pwned! How the hell do you fleece the reality based community out of $600,000 and get away with it? Damn! That is embarrassing...
Damn, somebody got pwned! How the hell do you fleece the reality based community out of $600,000 and get away with it? Damn! That is embarrassing...
Bush meets Descartes:
"Say, didn't you invent fuzzy math?"
Bush meets Descartes:
"Say, didn't you invent fuzzy math?"
Central Scrutinizer--
try
www.opensecrets.org
(considered reputable in Library Land.)
"Was it you that recently (a coupla weeks ago) posted a link to a website that had detailed info on companies and their donations to political parties?
Central Scrutinizer"
-L.
Central Scrutinizer--
try
www.opensecrets.org
(considered reputable in Library Land.)
"Was it you that recently (a coupla weeks ago) posted a link to a website that had detailed info on companies and their donations to political parties?
Central Scrutinizer"
-L.
Schwa, are suggesting that our estimable host personally profited somehow by notifying his readers of candidates in close races that could use financial support.
I really don't get this. This is like the troll the other day claiming that Kerry was doing somethin unethical by deciding how to spend his owm capaign money.
Schwa, are suggesting that our estimable host personally profited somehow by notifying his readers of candidates in close races that could use financial support.
I really don't get this. This is like the troll the other day claiming that Kerry was doing somethin unethical by deciding how to spend his owm capaign money.
I only got a 25% cut of all campaign contributions.
joke, of course. no cut.
I only got a 25% cut of all campaign contributions.
joke, of course. no cut.
You are what you do do.
-Liddy Dole
I must demur.
You are WHO you do.
-Liddy Dole
You are what you do do.
-Liddy Dole
I must demur.
You are WHO you do.
-Liddy Dole
Bush meets Descartes:
"Your nickname shall be 'Frogs Legs'."
Bush meets Descartes:
"Your nickname shall be 'Frogs Legs'."
You are WHO you do.
-Liddy Dole
Well, from bebe's many vivid characterizations, I gathered that Liddy really wasn't that picky...
You are WHO you do.
-Liddy Dole
Well, from bebe's many vivid characterizations, I gathered that Liddy really wasn't that picky...
--"What NYC residents mean when they say New York--Answer, Manhattan."
To those in the outer boroughs, Manhattan is referred to as "the city." When you're going to the city, you're going to Manhattan.
Greatest city in the world, by the way, even if it has no deer.
--"What NYC residents mean when they say New York--Answer, Manhattan."
To those in the outer boroughs, Manhattan is referred to as "the city." When you're going to the city, you're going to Manhattan.
Greatest city in the world, by the way, even if it has no deer.
"After reading some wingnut talking about how the Arabs lack certain... necessities for democracy"
I love how some Americans are SO arrogant that they think ALL counties want to be just like us.
Maybe some nations (who have been around for THOUSANDS of years longer than "murka") don't WANT "Western-style democracy."
And THIS is DEMOCRACY that we have here in the 'states???????
I think not!
"After reading some wingnut talking about how the Arabs lack certain... necessities for democracy"
I love how some Americans are SO arrogant that they think ALL counties want to be just like us.
Maybe some nations (who have been around for THOUSANDS of years longer than "murka") don't WANT "Western-style democracy."
And THIS is DEMOCRACY that we have here in the 'states???????
I think not!
Central Scrutinizer -
Perhaps you mean these sites (as well as opensecrets.org):
www.choosetheblue.com
www.projectbluechristmas.com
And don't forget this site, which lists Fox sponsors (so YOU don't have to watch the vile spew to come up with a list), and sponsors a boycott:
http://spendingliberally.org
Central Scrutinizer -
Perhaps you mean these sites (as well as opensecrets.org):
www.choosetheblue.com
www.projectbluechristmas.com
And don't forget this site, which lists Fox sponsors (so YOU don't have to watch the vile spew to come up with a list), and sponsors a boycott:
http://spendingliberally.org
All COUNTRIES, I mean to say!
All COUNTRIES, I mean to say!
Check out the Kentucky Democrat
Check out the Kentucky Democrat
Hey, at least in the US we only have *two* irreconcilable faactions who hate and distrust each other.
Hey, at least in the US we only have *two* irreconcilable faactions who hate and distrust each other.
I see nothing's gotten any better since my temperature went past 100.
I still insist that cat should be named Goldie. Male, female, big deal. All cats are girls anyway.
Judgement is the correct and British spelling. Judgment is merely poor.
Where's the mentholatum?
I see nothing's gotten any better since my temperature went past 100.
I still insist that cat should be named Goldie. Male, female, big deal. All cats are girls anyway.
Judgement is the correct and British spelling. Judgment is merely poor.
Where's the mentholatum?
"Who holds more "conservative values" Bush or Clinton?"
I know who's smarter and who I would MUCH rather have in the White House.
And it sure ain't Georgie Jerkoff!
"Who holds more "conservative values" Bush or Clinton?"
I know who's smarter and who I would MUCH rather have in the White House.
And it sure ain't Georgie Jerkoff!
Librarian,
Thank you.
Librarian,
Thank you.
CS, thanks for the Garden of Eden link. I adore that kind of primitive art, when people turn their whole yard into an art piece. Like when they build an entire house out of bottles. One day I want to travel around the country, just visiting all those own places.
CS, thanks for the Garden of Eden link. I adore that kind of primitive art, when people turn their whole yard into an art piece. Like when they build an entire house out of bottles. One day I want to travel around the country, just visiting all those own places.
The Iraq Blog Count site:
http://iraqblogcount.blogspot.com/
is polling for best Iraq blog.
The balloting appears stuffed by the right-leaners backing Iraq the Model.
Y'all might want to go vote otherwise.
The Iraq Blog Count site:
http://iraqblogcount.blogspot.com/
is polling for best Iraq blog.
The balloting appears stuffed by the right-leaners backing Iraq the Model.
Y'all might want to go vote otherwise.
Kate,
Thanks to you too!
Kate,
Thanks to you too!
Central Scrutinizer -
Just to add a suggestion on a simple step to take to stop supporting red business:
On Friday we opened a checking and savings account at a local county-wide credit union which invests in the local economy (after researching which would be the best one).
As soon as the dust settles on the account we will be moving all our money out of Wells Fargo. They are big-time Republican donors (who ignore Democrats), and they are even funding the obscenely expensive (barf) "Inauguration" ball.
We informed the credit union about why they're getting our business, and we will likewise inform Wells Fargo why they can go jump in a lake. Nice extra: there are *many* fewer fees at the credit union, so it's less expensive for us too.
Central Scrutinizer -
Just to add a suggestion on a simple step to take to stop supporting red business:
On Friday we opened a checking and savings account at a local county-wide credit union which invests in the local economy (after researching which would be the best one).
As soon as the dust settles on the account we will be moving all our money out of Wells Fargo. They are big-time Republican donors (who ignore Democrats), and they are even funding the obscenely expensive (barf) "Inauguration" ball.
We informed the credit union about why they're getting our business, and we will likewise inform Wells Fargo why they can go jump in a lake. Nice extra: there are *many* fewer fees at the credit union, so it's less expensive for us too.
DOH!
(after doing my stats work earlier, i was all back into official contributions blah blah land, and not in BOYCOTT land!)
so, therefore, CS, also try this:
http://www.donotparticipate.org/
and, internationally:
www.boycottbush.net
and
www.boycottbush.org
-L.
DOH!
(after doing my stats work earlier, i was all back into official contributions blah blah land, and not in BOYCOTT land!)
so, therefore, CS, also try this:
http://www.donotparticipate.org/
and, internationally:
www.boycottbush.net
and
www.boycottbush.org
-L.
Descartes -- the last good French philosopher.
(Only kidding, for all you Foucault-heads out there.)
Descartes -- the last good French philosopher.
(Only kidding, for all you Foucault-heads out there.)
"Christian Group Claims Dinosours Fraud"
Click homepage for link
"(Washington, DC) Today in the nations capital a new group of Washington lobbyists are pressing for changes in the education standards which mold the minds of millions of 1st through 6th graders. Zeke Johnson, spokesman for the group 'Concerned Christians for Biblical Truth in Education' have been meeting with high ranking Republicans in the house of representatives to change the standards regarding the inclusion of creatures into science and biology classes which they say attack the foundation of the country's moral and christian heritage. "The facts as portrayed in the old testement do not support the existence of dinosours and we believe the testimony as given in the bible should have precedent over what liberal minded scientists have to say on the matter" Johnson claims. The bible makes no mention of dinosaurs, or other creatures of such tremendous size and biblical experts working with the group claim this alone should prove that dinosours are frauds being perpetrated by liberals to undermind the christian faith of Americans making them weaker in our determination to fight terrorism, abortion, and taxs. "There is no way Noah could have made room for both a Brontosaurus and a Brachiosaurus aboard the ark. The Smithsonian and it's currators must also be in on the plot to undermind the youth of America" Johnson goes on to say. Public relations officers for the Smithsonian claim otherwise. "The facts are the facts," they claim. Yet this hasn't deterred CCBTE members from insisting that mention of the ancient creatures be removed from textbooks nationwide. "We gave the president a mandate to restore american values, and christianity is the foundation of those values." The dinosaurs must go."
MYOB'
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"Christian Group Claims Dinosours Fraud"
Click homepage for link
"(Washington, DC) Today in the nations capital a new group of Washington lobbyists are pressing for changes in the education standards which mold the minds of millions of 1st through 6th graders. Zeke Johnson, spokesman for the group 'Concerned Christians for Biblical Truth in Education' have been meeting with high ranking Republicans in the house of representatives to change the standards regarding the inclusion of creatures into science and biology classes which they say attack the foundation of the country's moral and christian heritage. "The facts as portrayed in the old testement do not support the existence of dinosours and we believe the testimony as given in the bible should have precedent over what liberal minded scientists have to say on the matter" Johnson claims. The bible makes no mention of dinosaurs, or other creatures of such tremendous size and biblical experts working with the group claim this alone should prove that dinosours are frauds being perpetrated by liberals to undermind the christian faith of Americans making them weaker in our determination to fight terrorism, abortion, and taxs. "There is no way Noah could have made room for both a Brontosaurus and a Brachiosaurus aboard the ark. The Smithsonian and it's currators must also be in on the plot to undermind the youth of America" Johnson goes on to say. Public relations officers for the Smithsonian claim otherwise. "The facts are the facts," they claim. Yet this hasn't deterred CCBTE members from insisting that mention of the ancient creatures be removed from textbooks nationwide. "We gave the president a mandate to restore american values, and christianity is the foundation of those values." The dinosaurs must go."
MYOB'
.
With all the so-called reform it seems like the US intelligence community is making the same mistakes in North Korea as they made in Iraq, blurring the worst-case scenario with proven reality. This is further endangering the U.S.
For more info: www.politicalthought.net
With all the so-called reform it seems like the US intelligence community is making the same mistakes in North Korea as they made in Iraq, blurring the worst-case scenario with proven reality. This is further endangering the U.S.
For more info: www.politicalthought.net
Zeke? Excuse me, Zeke? There's a fellow named Occam outside your office, says he needs to speak with you right away.
Zeke? Excuse me, Zeke? There's a fellow named Occam outside your office, says he needs to speak with you right away.
"Who holds more "conservative values" Bush or Clinton?"
I know who's smarter and who I would MUCH rather have in the White House.
And it sure ain't Georgie Jerkoff!
I'm not the world's biggest Clinton fan (don't worry; my problem with him isn't blowjob-stuff; it's the 'welfare reform'-type stuff), but this is why Clinton and Gore were infinitely preferable to GWB (thus negating the logic behind a Nader vote) -- I trust C & G NOT to bring the world to the brink of Armageddon (sp?) or further, even if I didn't like all of their policy choices. They were at least SANE.
Unlike the current occupants (squatters) of the White House.
.
"Who holds more "conservative values" Bush or Clinton?"
I know who's smarter and who I would MUCH rather have in the White House.
And it sure ain't Georgie Jerkoff!
I'm not the world's biggest Clinton fan (don't worry; my problem with him isn't blowjob-stuff; it's the 'welfare reform'-type stuff), but this is why Clinton and Gore were infinitely preferable to GWB (thus negating the logic behind a Nader vote) -- I trust C & G NOT to bring the world to the brink of Armageddon (sp?) or further, even if I didn't like all of their policy choices. They were at least SANE.
Unlike the current occupants (squatters) of the White House.
.
so if not kerik...
who?
my money's on Dr. Laura.
so if not kerik...
who?
my money's on Dr. Laura.
WHAT?? No Barney?? Say it ain't so.
WHAT?? No Barney?? Say it ain't so.
so if not kerik...
who?
I pity the poor WH staffer who has to explain to Bush that Harry Callahan and Jack Ryan aren't real people...
so if not kerik...
who?
I pity the poor WH staffer who has to explain to Bush that Harry Callahan and Jack Ryan aren't real people...
No Bermie, no Barney. All in the same day. I can't take any more.
No Bermie, no Barney. All in the same day. I can't take any more.
(the non-sex club Jack Ryan, that is - although he might be on the list too...)
(the non-sex club Jack Ryan, that is - although he might be on the list too...)
C.S. -
You're very welcome. We need to fight with our money/spending decisions.
By the way, can someone define the term "movement conservative"? It *sounds* like a right-winger who's very serious about right-wingedness. So I'm wondering if "movement liberal" would be a good term to appropriate. Unless, of course, it means something else I haven't cottoned on to yet.
C.S. -
You're very welcome. We need to fight with our money/spending decisions.
By the way, can someone define the term "movement conservative"? It *sounds* like a right-winger who's very serious about right-wingedness. So I'm wondering if "movement liberal" would be a good term to appropriate. Unless, of course, it means something else I haven't cottoned on to yet.
Bush meets Descartes:
bush refuses to meet with descartes because he fears he won't be treated with the respect he deserves.
Bush meets Descartes:
bush refuses to meet with descartes because he fears he won't be treated with the respect he deserves.
By the way, can someone define the term "movement conservative"?
I thought it was Dapper Dan...
By the way, can someone define the term "movement conservative"?
I thought it was Dapper Dan...
It's just a damn shame that the inverse (converse?) of "I think, therefore I am" isn't true...
It's just a damn shame that the inverse (converse?) of "I think, therefore I am" isn't true...
"There is no way Noah could have made room for both a Brontosaurus and a Brachiosaurus aboard the ark. The Smithsonian and it's currators must also be in on the plot to undermind the youth of America" Johnson goes on to say.
This is a joke, correct? Please reassure me that this is a joke.
.
"There is no way Noah could have made room for both a Brontosaurus and a Brachiosaurus aboard the ark. The Smithsonian and it's currators must also be in on the plot to undermind the youth of America" Johnson goes on to say.
This is a joke, correct? Please reassure me that this is a joke.
.
I thought it was Dapper Dan...
"movement conservative" is a hair pomade?
I thought it was Dapper Dan...
"movement conservative" is a hair pomade?
...joke, of course. no cut.
You need a better agent.
...joke, of course. no cut.
You need a better agent.
This is a joke, correct? Please reassure me that this is a joke.
Hey, if the facts disagree with the Bible, then the facts must be wrong.
This is a joke, correct? Please reassure me that this is a joke.
Hey, if the facts disagree with the Bible, then the facts must be wrong.
MYOB - Want to hear something interesting? In the Dallas paper this morning, there was an article that Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison, R., Tx, was in town exhorting our medical community and our legislature to follow California and start doing stem cell research.
Not all the Repugs are lining up behind the Delay/Falwell/Bush wing, apparently.
MYOB - Want to hear something interesting? In the Dallas paper this morning, there was an article that Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison, R., Tx, was in town exhorting our medical community and our legislature to follow California and start doing stem cell research.
Not all the Repugs are lining up behind the Delay/Falwell/Bush wing, apparently.
MYOB, I can no longer tell satire from reality anymore. Which is it?
But I hear in a related story, certain groups have declared 2+2=4 anti-Christian and are lobbying to have it removed from elementary school textbooks, saying that it distorts the values on which this country was founded.
-- Stu
MYOB, I can no longer tell satire from reality anymore. Which is it?
But I hear in a related story, certain groups have declared 2+2=4 anti-Christian and are lobbying to have it removed from elementary school textbooks, saying that it distorts the values on which this country was founded.
-- Stu
remove either the no longer or the anymore from previous comment; your pick.
sigh.
remove either the no longer or the anymore from previous comment; your pick.
sigh.
Hey, if the facts disagree with the Bible, then the facts must be wrong.
As Stephen Colbert (or maybe it was Rob Corddry) said a couple months ago, the facts are biased.
-- Stu
Hey, if the facts disagree with the Bible, then the facts must be wrong.
As Stephen Colbert (or maybe it was Rob Corddry) said a couple months ago, the facts are biased.
-- Stu
If to think is enough to validate oneself as "real" then isn't this the validation that the wingnut is correct in judgeing that any reality that they think is correct?
Ergo, to think that there were no dinosaurs means that there weren't.
Or, to be a little more acedemic, aren't they really bat-shit, f*ckin' crazy?
If to think is enough to validate oneself as "real" then isn't this the validation that the wingnut is correct in judgeing that any reality that they think is correct?
Ergo, to think that there were no dinosaurs means that there weren't.
Or, to be a little more acedemic, aren't they really bat-shit, f*ckin' crazy?
WHAT?? No Barney?? Say it ain't so.
Gonna Ralph
Denies the existence of Strom, too.
That's gotta put the wingnuts in a quandry!
WHAT?? No Barney?? Say it ain't so.
Gonna Ralph
Denies the existence of Strom, too.
That's gotta put the wingnuts in a quandry!
Ummmm, i suppose it's too simple to declare that the bible doesn't mention dinosaurs because there were no people around to mention them when the dinosaurs walked the earth...
And can I have a small, shaped charge over here to be shoved just as far up Zeke's filthy, feculent anal passage as humanly possible and then detonated...
Ummmm, i suppose it's too simple to declare that the bible doesn't mention dinosaurs because there were no people around to mention them when the dinosaurs walked the earth...
And can I have a small, shaped charge over here to be shoved just as far up Zeke's filthy, feculent anal passage as humanly possible and then detonated...
So which is more infallible: The Bible, or Preznit Bush?
So which is more infallible: The Bible, or Preznit Bush?
Tell me this came from The Onion, please? Dinosaurs don't exist? They're kidding, right?! Omigod, I suppose that means all those bones in all those museums are going to be thrown out for (gasp)fundie dogs to chew on?
Tell me this came from The Onion, please? Dinosaurs don't exist? They're kidding, right?! Omigod, I suppose that means all those bones in all those museums are going to be thrown out for (gasp)fundie dogs to chew on?
Well the bible doesn't mention miracle whip or the United States either.
Well the bible doesn't mention miracle whip or the United States either.
MYOB - Want to hear something interesting? In the Dallas paper this morning, there was an article that Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison, R., Tx, was in town exhorting our medical community and our legislature to follow California and start doing stem cell research.
Not that I have any use for Kay Bailey Hutchison, yet another Rovot, IIRC.
But I do welcome the signs of internecine Rethug war.
MYOB - Want to hear something interesting? In the Dallas paper this morning, there was an article that Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison, R., Tx, was in town exhorting our medical community and our legislature to follow California and start doing stem cell research.
Not that I have any use for Kay Bailey Hutchison, yet another Rovot, IIRC.
But I do welcome the signs of internecine Rethug war.
Fossils were put on Earth by Satan to confuse good Christians.
Fossils were put on Earth by Satan to confuse good Christians.
If it turns out to be satire, it's pretty telling that it's so easy to believe, being indistinguishable from the real thing...
If it turns out to be satire, it's pretty telling that it's so easy to believe, being indistinguishable from the real thing...
Librarian -
Thanks for those websites in your latest post; I hadn't heard of them yet.
Don't you love the way such sites are springing up? This means many, many folks are thinking like we are.
Are you familiar with www.karmabanque.com? They are very cool and savvy in their approach to boycotts. They analyze businesses both for their boycott-worthiness and for their *vulnerability* to a boycott, thus channeling boycott effectiveness at reducing the offending company's share price.
They talk about shorting the stock, too. How to make money on a principled boycott! It's run by an ex-Wall-Street hot-shot turned activist who now lives in (*gasp!*) France.
Librarian -
Thanks for those websites in your latest post; I hadn't heard of them yet.
Don't you love the way such sites are springing up? This means many, many folks are thinking like we are.
Are you familiar with www.karmabanque.com? They are very cool and savvy in their approach to boycotts. They analyze businesses both for their boycott-worthiness and for their *vulnerability* to a boycott, thus channeling boycott effectiveness at reducing the offending company's share price.
They talk about shorting the stock, too. How to make money on a principled boycott! It's run by an ex-Wall-Street hot-shot turned activist who now lives in (*gasp!*) France.
Miracle Whip was put on Earth by Satan to confuse good Christians.
Miracle Whip was put on Earth by Satan to confuse good Christians.
So who is it in Hutchinson's family that has Alzheimer's or Parkinson's? Or is paralyzed? I just don't see her advocating this out of the pure goodness of her altruistic heart, sorry.
So who is it in Hutchinson's family that has Alzheimer's or Parkinson's? Or is paralyzed? I just don't see her advocating this out of the pure goodness of her altruistic heart, sorry.
Tell me this came from The Onion, please? Dinosaurs don't exist? They're kidding, right?!
What? You didn't know Satan planted those fossils to lead us all astray? Haven't you heard of the dinosaur footprints in Texas, right alongside human footprints, that prove humans and dinosaurs existed together? Except dinosaurs never existed, so those footprints are a lie, too!
Oh, that Satan, he's a devious one, alright!
Tell me this came from The Onion, please? Dinosaurs don't exist? They're kidding, right?!
What? You didn't know Satan planted those fossils to lead us all astray? Haven't you heard of the dinosaur footprints in Texas, right alongside human footprints, that prove humans and dinosaurs existed together? Except dinosaurs never existed, so those footprints are a lie, too!
Oh, that Satan, he's a devious one, alright!
Liddy Dole was put on earth to confuse herself.
Liddy Dole was put on earth to confuse herself.
BTW, World o'Crap gathers all the Kerik threads together.
(Thanks to tBogg...)
BTW, World o'Crap gathers all the Kerik threads together.
(Thanks to tBogg...)
sdf - "MYOB, I can no longer tell satire from reality anymore. Which is it?"
These days when it comes to wing-nut thinking, to be safe, I assume it's true and immediately start planning a good offense/defense.
Daniel Stewart - "Fossils were put on Earth by Satan to confuse good Christians."
If by good christian you mean fundamentalist head case, the effort was hardly necessary.
sdf - "MYOB, I can no longer tell satire from reality anymore. Which is it?"
These days when it comes to wing-nut thinking, to be safe, I assume it's true and immediately start planning a good offense/defense.
Daniel Stewart - "Fossils were put on Earth by Satan to confuse good Christians."
If by good christian you mean fundamentalist head case, the effort was hardly necessary.
It's one of those tricks to test your faith.
Damn Dino tricksters
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It's one of those tricks to test your faith.
Damn Dino tricksters
.
This is too funny, really. I'm sure that at this rate it won't be long before congress people are running from the building screaming "get them off me!"
If Congress has any control over textbook content, I'm not aware of it. That's generally up to the states, I thought.
This is too funny, really. I'm sure that at this rate it won't be long before congress people are running from the building screaming "get them off me!"
If Congress has any control over textbook content, I'm not aware of it. That's generally up to the states, I thought.
I wasn't at all familiar with Kerik or his career - but after seeing his picture, I had hoped they would investigate him - he looked as tho he might have a shady past.
Speaking of looks, why is it that one can look at a public figure and 99 times out of a 100, one can guess correctly whether he is a Republican or Democrat. (With female public figures, it's a little bit more difficult - 75 times out of a hundred, one can guess correctly.)
I wasn't at all familiar with Kerik or his career - but after seeing his picture, I had hoped they would investigate him - he looked as tho he might have a shady past.
Speaking of looks, why is it that one can look at a public figure and 99 times out of a 100, one can guess correctly whether he is a Republican or Democrat. (With female public figures, it's a little bit more difficult - 75 times out of a hundred, one can guess correctly.)
By "good Christian" I meant fundamentalist nut-job.
By "good Christian" I meant fundamentalist nut-job.
Okay, everybody sing!
Immanuel Kant was a real pissant
Who was very rarely stable,
Heidegger, Heidegger was a boozy old beggar
Who could think you under the table,
David Hume could out-consume
Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel,
And Wittgenstein was a beery swine
Who was just as schloshed as Schlegel
There's nothing Nietzche couldn't teach ya
'Bout the raising of the wrist,
Socrates, himself, was permanently pissed...
John Stuart Mill, of his own free will,
On half a pint of shandy was particularly ill,
Plato, they say, could stick it away--
Half a crate of whisky every day!
Aristotle, Aristotle was a bugger for the bottle,
Hobbes was fond of his dram,
And René Descartes was a drunken fart -
"I drink, therefore I am."
Yes, Socrates, himself, is particularly missed,
A lovely little thinker,
But a bugger when he's pissed!
Okay, everybody sing!
Immanuel Kant was a real pissant
Who was very rarely stable,
Heidegger, Heidegger was a boozy old beggar
Who could think you under the table,
David Hume could out-consume
Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel,
And Wittgenstein was a beery swine
Who was just as schloshed as Schlegel
There's nothing Nietzche couldn't teach ya
'Bout the raising of the wrist,
Socrates, himself, was permanently pissed...
John Stuart Mill, of his own free will,
On half a pint of shandy was particularly ill,
Plato, they say, could stick it away--
Half a crate of whisky every day!
Aristotle, Aristotle was a bugger for the bottle,
Hobbes was fond of his dram,
And René Descartes was a drunken fart -
"I drink, therefore I am."
Yes, Socrates, himself, is particularly missed,
A lovely little thinker,
But a bugger when he's pissed!
I can no longer tell satire from reality anymore.
As Tom Lehrer pointed out, satire died the day Kissinger won the Nobel Peace Prize...
I can no longer tell satire from reality anymore.
As Tom Lehrer pointed out, satire died the day Kissinger won the Nobel Peace Prize...
Are there any references in the Bible to a nation being led by a chimpanzee?
Just askin'.
Are there any references in the Bible to a nation being led by a chimpanzee?
Just askin'.
That's what I thought (insert smiley face here - optional).
That's what I thought (insert smiley face here - optional).
Tena -
Wasn't there a federal agency that had to put a stop to some already-printed history textbooks at the behest of Her Royal Pain-in-the-Ass Lynne Cheney -- because they weren't rah-rah Manifest Destiny Love-it-or-Leave-It enough? That gave me chills.
Tena -
Wasn't there a federal agency that had to put a stop to some already-printed history textbooks at the behest of Her Royal Pain-in-the-Ass Lynne Cheney -- because they weren't rah-rah Manifest Destiny Love-it-or-Leave-It enough? That gave me chills.
"I'm sure that at this rate it won't be long before congress people are running from the building screaming "get them off me!""
Thanks, Tena.That's the first real laugh I've had all day!
"I'm sure that at this rate it won't be long before congress people are running from the building screaming "get them off me!""
Thanks, Tena.That's the first real laugh I've had all day!
Just got back from some Xmas-type shopping... everyone needs one of these.
Just got back from some Xmas-type shopping... everyone needs one of these.
Schwa,
Where you posting from, soldier?
Schwa,
Where you posting from, soldier?
Are there any references in the Bible to a nation being led by a chimpanzee?
Not sure, but in the Mitchell Bros.' magnum opus, "The Seven Days of Gomorrah," God was portrayed as a chimpanzee who spoke in John Wayne's voice... does that count?
Are there any references in the Bible to a nation being led by a chimpanzee?
Not sure, but in the Mitchell Bros.' magnum opus, "The Seven Days of Gomorrah," God was portrayed as a chimpanzee who spoke in John Wayne's voice... does that count?
Wile E Odysseus - I can't stand Kay Bailey Hutchison, but I find the situation interesting. And frankly, I'd take her as governor over Gov Goodhair.
I think she's a pro-choice Repug. I think.
Wile E Odysseus - I can't stand Kay Bailey Hutchison, but I find the situation interesting. And frankly, I'd take her as governor over Gov Goodhair.
I think she's a pro-choice Repug. I think.
"And lo the giant ape-creature didst bring down upon the nation the righteous banana of tribulation and retribu..."
Sorry, this bible hasn't been written yet.
"And lo the giant ape-creature didst bring down upon the nation the righteous banana of tribulation and retribu..."
Sorry, this bible hasn't been written yet.
MYOB - We're still waiting for the link to the dinosaur article.
MYOB - We're still waiting for the link to the dinosaur article.
My fundie uncle told me the Texas dinosaur/human footprints story a couple of years ago. At the time, I thought he was the most insane xtian I had ever encountered...Now your telling me the fundies are actually pushing this crap?
Yeesh. It must really suck being them.
My fundie uncle told me the Texas dinosaur/human footprints story a couple of years ago. At the time, I thought he was the most insane xtian I had ever encountered...Now your telling me the fundies are actually pushing this crap?
Yeesh. It must really suck being them.
Good one, jimmyraybob!
Good one, jimmyraybob!
It must really suck being them.
Yep, constantly oppressed and mocked by reality wherever they go...
It must really suck being them.
Yep, constantly oppressed and mocked by reality wherever they go...
Of course, good Christians can differ. (Wait, no they can't.) These folks explain that not only did dinosaurs exist, but they are mentioned in the bible several times. Course, they were only created 1 day before humans, despite what those damn secularists would have you believe. (As they say, "Unfortunately, our public school system and the media have convinced us that dinosaurs were extinct at least 60 million years before man appeared on earth.")
-- Stu
Of course, good Christians can differ. (Wait, no they can't.) These folks explain that not only did dinosaurs exist, but they are mentioned in the bible several times. Course, they were only created 1 day before humans, despite what those damn secularists would have you believe. (As they say, "Unfortunately, our public school system and the media have convinced us that dinosaurs were extinct at least 60 million years before man appeared on earth.")
-- Stu
"Movement conservative" is a disordering of the words in the phrase. It should be "conservative movement."
And yes, it is roughly analogous to a "bowel movement."
As for "judgement" vs. "judgment", the former is the only correct and logical choice. The latter looks wrong, which is enough. But consider other words ending in -ment such as commitment, statement, endorsement, employment, development, assessment, assignment, government, inducement, enticement, improvement, management, etc. In NONE of them is the last letter of the root word dropped, even when it's a silent "e". You would only drop the final silent "e" if the suffix began with a vowel.
That having been said, I'm sitting here looking at a style manual that insists "judgment" is the correct form, even after that same manual listed the rule given in the last sentence of my previous paragraph.
But it's not correct, for all the reasons given.
"Movement conservative" is a disordering of the words in the phrase. It should be "conservative movement."
And yes, it is roughly analogous to a "bowel movement."
As for "judgement" vs. "judgment", the former is the only correct and logical choice. The latter looks wrong, which is enough. But consider other words ending in -ment such as commitment, statement, endorsement, employment, development, assessment, assignment, government, inducement, enticement, improvement, management, etc. In NONE of them is the last letter of the root word dropped, even when it's a silent "e". You would only drop the final silent "e" if the suffix began with a vowel.
That having been said, I'm sitting here looking at a style manual that insists "judgment" is the correct form, even after that same manual listed the rule given in the last sentence of my previous paragraph.
But it's not correct, for all the reasons given.
sdf - Oh, man, this just gets better and better. Now we're going to have competing theologies going after each other and the government.
sdf - Oh, man, this just gets better and better. Now we're going to have competing theologies going after each other and the government.
Poor W. Those damned annoying "ethical issues" keep getting in the way of his chosen appointees.
Poor W. Those damned annoying "ethical issues" keep getting in the way of his chosen appointees.
Other things not mentioned in the bible: Automobiles, telephones, email, the internets, tangelos, polar bears, the Hubble telescope, and mu shu chicken.
Obviously, all mention of these and other things must be stricken from all publications.
Other things not mentioned in the bible: Automobiles, telephones, email, the internets, tangelos, polar bears, the Hubble telescope, and mu shu chicken.
Obviously, all mention of these and other things must be stricken from all publications.
Not exactly like a bowel movement. The shit comes out the mouth.
Not exactly like a bowel movement. The shit comes out the mouth.
Here's another one, from an article headlined Glendive man plans dinosaur museum to teach 'creation truth'.
From the article:
How do the dinosaurs fit into the Bible? Kline points to Job 40:15, which speaks of "the behemoth" that "feeds on grass like an ox."
"I believe there were dinosaurs put on the ark," Kline said. "There was no rule that said they had to be mature."
Our Christian overlords say some really funny stuff, don't they?
-- Stu
Here's another one, from an article headlined Glendive man plans dinosaur museum to teach 'creation truth'.
From the article:
How do the dinosaurs fit into the Bible? Kline points to Job 40:15, which speaks of "the behemoth" that "feeds on grass like an ox."
"I believe there were dinosaurs put on the ark," Kline said. "There was no rule that said they had to be mature."
Our Christian overlords say some really funny stuff, don't they?
-- Stu
when did judgement become judgment?
Semi-drunk prescriptivist weighing in on a comment probably posted ages ago: Actually, the preferred U.S. spelling is "judgment" and "judgement" is listed as a variant of "judgment." The "semi" refers both to "drunk" and "prescriptivist," so I'm open to the language changing and all, but...
I fall back on the wonderful phrase...
just sayin'.
when did judgement become judgment?
Semi-drunk prescriptivist weighing in on a comment probably posted ages ago: Actually, the preferred U.S. spelling is "judgment" and "judgement" is listed as a variant of "judgment." The "semi" refers both to "drunk" and "prescriptivist," so I'm open to the language changing and all, but...
I fall back on the wonderful phrase...
just sayin'.
Not exactly like a bowel movement. The shit comes out the mouth.
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Yes, this is why it's only "roughly analogous."
Not exactly like a bowel movement. The shit comes out the mouth.
Spinoza | Email | Homepage | 12.11.04 - 7:36 pm | #
Yes, this is why it's only "roughly analogous."
It only became 'judgment' in the United States sometime around the 1930s, when quite a few standard British spellings were falling by the wayside. Try any US novel from the '20s and you'll see. Things change. The centre does not hold. Move to Toronto.
Find the mentholatum for me!
It only became 'judgment' in the United States sometime around the 1930s, when quite a few standard British spellings were falling by the wayside. Try any US novel from the '20s and you'll see. Things change. The centre does not hold. Move to Toronto.
Find the mentholatum for me!
Jennifer - well there is a school of thought that says whichever way becomes most common is the correct way.
I never see it written judgement in American writings. All court documents that I've seen spell the word without the "e". I think that is the accepted American spelling. Which makes it correct for American English.
Jennifer - well there is a school of thought that says whichever way becomes most common is the correct way.
I never see it written judgement in American writings. All court documents that I've seen spell the word without the "e". I think that is the accepted American spelling. Which makes it correct for American English.
Oh for heaven's sake - the only constant in the universe is change.
There's no reason why language like any other human institution shouldn't evolve. And so it does.
Oh for heaven's sake - the only constant in the universe is change.
There's no reason why language like any other human institution shouldn't evolve. And so it does.
anyone remember the 'unicorn song'?
anyone remember the 'unicorn song'?
No, Tena, it makes it the primary US English spelling, in the same way that gray is the primary over grey. Variants are perfectly acceptable.
Of course Vicki Stein uses alot and alright and those two are also listed as variants, but they make me even edgier than I am generally because they are not something that has evolved, but rather an attempt to pair existing words with similar constructions with artificially created words, and then call them even. But that's just me. I believe there's an honest to God word 'am'n't'. Things change. Some day I shall use that word in publication, as G-d is my witness.
No, Tena, it makes it the primary US English spelling, in the same way that gray is the primary over grey. Variants are perfectly acceptable.
Of course Vicki Stein uses alot and alright and those two are also listed as variants, but they make me even edgier than I am generally because they are not something that has evolved, but rather an attempt to pair existing words with similar constructions with artificially created words, and then call them even. But that's just me. I believe there's an honest to God word 'am'n't'. Things change. Some day I shall use that word in publication, as G-d is my witness.
GWPDA - whatever.
Fortunately language is flexible enough that it is shaped by usage, which means that if enough people are using the correct form ("judgement") then it becomes the accepted standard. In any case, that's the form I'll continue to use, because the silent "e" at the end of the word is there for a reason - to indicate the sound of either a preceding vowel or consonant. In this case, it's to let you know that the "g" is taking the "j" sound. So dropping the "e" when adding "ment" would change the pronunciation of the word. There's any number of reasons why "judgment" should be considered incorrect, but this is the hard and fast one.
GWPDA - whatever.
Fortunately language is flexible enough that it is shaped by usage, which means that if enough people are using the correct form ("judgement") then it becomes the accepted standard. In any case, that's the form I'll continue to use, because the silent "e" at the end of the word is there for a reason - to indicate the sound of either a preceding vowel or consonant. In this case, it's to let you know that the "g" is taking the "j" sound. So dropping the "e" when adding "ment" would change the pronunciation of the word. There's any number of reasons why "judgment" should be considered incorrect, but this is the hard and fast one.
Hey GWPDA -
If you can't find the Vicks Vapo-Rub, what about some eucalyptus leaves in a potpourri thingy? Methinks that one of the active ingredients is eucalyptus, no? Don't you have some such trees on the property?
On the other hand, if you're feeling really crummy, I guess you're not up to eucalyptus leaf harvesting.
Hey GWPDA -
If you can't find the Vicks Vapo-Rub, what about some eucalyptus leaves in a potpourri thingy? Methinks that one of the active ingredients is eucalyptus, no? Don't you have some such trees on the property?
On the other hand, if you're feeling really crummy, I guess you're not up to eucalyptus leaf harvesting.
Jennifer - I haven't ever used the word judgement without an 'e'. On the other hand, I have periodically been called on to spell the name Guinevere. Gwynhyfar. Genevieve. You know....
Jennifer - I haven't ever used the word judgement without an 'e'. On the other hand, I have periodically been called on to spell the name Guinevere. Gwynhyfar. Genevieve. You know....
Kate, I don't want any stinking Vicks - I want the mentholatum. It's somewhere in the house, but I think Arthur got into it. And no, I'm not really up to facing off with the house koala in competition for eucalyptus. I might make it down to the Walgreen's, but there, I figure I could beat out the wildlife and make it to the Jeep before any of them. Also, I have the keys and they don't.
Kate, I don't want any stinking Vicks - I want the mentholatum. It's somewhere in the house, but I think Arthur got into it. And no, I'm not really up to facing off with the house koala in competition for eucalyptus. I might make it down to the Walgreen's, but there, I figure I could beat out the wildlife and make it to the Jeep before any of them. Also, I have the keys and they don't.
Yo bebe:
D'ya think Liddy has sufficient development of the labial muscles to suck a god damn golf ball through a garden hose?
Yo bebe:
D'ya think Liddy has sufficient development of the labial muscles to suck a god damn golf ball through a garden hose?
It's a gag.
We're watching Jurassic Park on the Sci-Fi channel right now plus my son is reading up on them for school.
The fun part is that there's almost no chance any of you could be 100% sure either way no could you?
Let the horror begin.
MYOB'
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It's a gag.
We're watching Jurassic Park on the Sci-Fi channel right now plus my son is reading up on them for school.
The fun part is that there's almost no chance any of you could be 100% sure either way no could you?
Let the horror begin.
MYOB'
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GWPDA -
Jeez Louise, I'm really ignorant about the diff between mentholatum and Vicks. I though the "generic" version of Vicks had the word mentholatum on the jar. I need enlightenment here.
And if Arthur (cute guy!) got into it, wouldn't there be, um, *aromatic* evidence of his crime?
Apart from all that, your house sounds like FUN. Can I come see the koala? I promise to keep my car keys in a zipped pocket... (After your flu passes, of course. Couldn't get that shot, you know.) Your backyard doesn't abut the Wildlife World Zoo, does it?
Do feel better, dear. My heart goes out to you. Braving wildlife is always more difficult while fighting a fever.
GWPDA -
Jeez Louise, I'm really ignorant about the diff between mentholatum and Vicks. I though the "generic" version of Vicks had the word mentholatum on the jar. I need enlightenment here.
And if Arthur (cute guy!) got into it, wouldn't there be, um, *aromatic* evidence of his crime?
Apart from all that, your house sounds like FUN. Can I come see the koala? I promise to keep my car keys in a zipped pocket... (After your flu passes, of course. Couldn't get that shot, you know.) Your backyard doesn't abut the Wildlife World Zoo, does it?
Do feel better, dear. My heart goes out to you. Braving wildlife is always more difficult while fighting a fever.
Jennifer, if you're looking for a cause, I wish you would help people understand the difference between "its" and "it's".
As for judgment , it's simply a matter of deciding what standard you want to follow.
And, Konopelli, I'm so sorry you are not well. Want me to bring you a hot toddy?
Jennifer, if you're looking for a cause, I wish you would help people understand the difference between "its" and "it's".
As for judgment , it's simply a matter of deciding what standard you want to follow.
And, Konopelli, I'm so sorry you are not well. Want me to bring you a hot toddy?
Kate - personally, I'm deeply hurt you didn't contact me for membership in the Arizona Federal Credit Union. I would have sponsored you and at the same time gotten $20 for the referral.
But here, it all started with the 75' eucalyptus in the front yard, that the previous owner had been trimming the same way she'd trimmed the windbreaks out on the family farm on the west side. That is to say, badly and ignorantly - so that a 20' limb simply dropped to the ground last spring. With that, after having to have the arborists in, we disposed of the excess eucalyptus to the zoo and are considering turning the joint into a rest stop for koala moving to the coast.
Mentholatum is compounded of camphor and menthol and made by the Mentholatum Company of Orchard Park, NY. Vicks is made of:4.8% Camphor, 2.6% Menthol and 1.2% Eucalyptus oil, with Inactive Ingredients: Cedarleaf oil, nutmeg oil, special petrolatum, thymol, and turpentine oil, and is made by Proctor & Gamble. Leonard Rosenberg used to eat Vicks. Mentholatum is American.
And I found it.
Kate - personally, I'm deeply hurt you didn't contact me for membership in the Arizona Federal Credit Union. I would have sponsored you and at the same time gotten $20 for the referral.
But here, it all started with the 75' eucalyptus in the front yard, that the previous owner had been trimming the same way she'd trimmed the windbreaks out on the family farm on the west side. That is to say, badly and ignorantly - so that a 20' limb simply dropped to the ground last spring. With that, after having to have the arborists in, we disposed of the excess eucalyptus to the zoo and are considering turning the joint into a rest stop for koala moving to the coast.
Mentholatum is compounded of camphor and menthol and made by the Mentholatum Company of Orchard Park, NY. Vicks is made of:4.8% Camphor, 2.6% Menthol and 1.2% Eucalyptus oil, with Inactive Ingredients: Cedarleaf oil, nutmeg oil, special petrolatum, thymol, and turpentine oil, and is made by Proctor & Gamble. Leonard Rosenberg used to eat Vicks. Mentholatum is American.
And I found it.
Next step: Lynne Cheney has a bonfire for all the natural history textbooks mentioning "dinosaurs." Empanels committee of religious scholars for rewrite. Fatwa issued to Dept. of Education.
Followed by: Dick Cheney reconvenes secret Energy Task Force at undisclosed location. Presentation by Frank Luntz leads to unanimous decision to drop all public use of the term "fossil fuel" in preference for "U.S. fuel." Newly chosen UN Ambassador Norm Coleman presents Security Council with America's demand for mineral rights in all "squatter" nations in Middle East.
Next step: Lynne Cheney has a bonfire for all the natural history textbooks mentioning "dinosaurs." Empanels committee of religious scholars for rewrite. Fatwa issued to Dept. of Education.
Followed by: Dick Cheney reconvenes secret Energy Task Force at undisclosed location. Presentation by Frank Luntz leads to unanimous decision to drop all public use of the term "fossil fuel" in preference for "U.S. fuel." Newly chosen UN Ambassador Norm Coleman presents Security Council with America's demand for mineral rights in all "squatter" nations in Middle East.
Nevermore - I'm with the author of Eats, Shoots & Leaves on the subject of its and it's when she says this is the greatest solecism in punctuation, that it indicates illiteracy, and anyone guilty of using it's in place of its should be struck by lightning, hacked up, and buried on the spot in a shallow grave. With my own mother, I had to go into the long explanation of the correct usage on this one, since she wouldn't simply accept that it's always, and can only, mean one thing: "it is."
Nevermore - I'm with the author of Eats, Shoots & Leaves on the subject of its and it's when she says this is the greatest solecism in punctuation, that it indicates illiteracy, and anyone guilty of using it's in place of its should be struck by lightning, hacked up, and buried on the spot in a shallow grave. With my own mother, I had to go into the long explanation of the correct usage on this one, since she wouldn't simply accept that it's always, and can only, mean one thing: "it is."
Stone! ROTFLOL.
Stone! ROTFLOL.
Its or It's?
Its is the possessive pronoun; it modifies a noun.
It's is a contraction of it is or it has.
Incorrect: The mother cat carried it's kitten in it's mouth.
(Possessive pronoun, no apostrophe)
Correct: The mother cat carried its kitten in its mouth.
Correct: I think it's going to rain today.
(Contraction of it is)
Correct: It's been a very long time.
(Contraction of it has)
Its or It's?
Its is the possessive pronoun; it modifies a noun.
It's is a contraction of it is or it has.
Incorrect: The mother cat carried it's kitten in it's mouth.
(Possessive pronoun, no apostrophe)
Correct: The mother cat carried its kitten in its mouth.
Correct: I think it's going to rain today.
(Contraction of it is)
Correct: It's been a very long time.
(Contraction of it has)
Why not "freedom fuel"?
Why not "freedom fuel"?
Never mind, Stone - I think your last sentence explains it.
Never mind, Stone - I think your last sentence explains it.
And thanks to Jenny for the long explanation (the one I had to give my mother) and the correction that "it's" can also indicate "it has".
And thanks to Jenny for the long explanation (the one I had to give my mother) and the correction that "it's" can also indicate "it has".
Jennifer -
I didn't think of "it has" as a contraction for 'it has'. At least not in my current mental state. Good on you for the it's/its lesson.
Every time I type or write one of the its/it's words, I have to think of the rules. English is a complicated language, no?
Jennifer -
I didn't think of "it has" as a contraction for 'it has'. At least not in my current mental state. Good on you for the it's/its lesson.
Every time I type or write one of the its/it's words, I have to think of the rules. English is a complicated language, no?
Jennifer and Jenny,
I thank you both. You have done a service to written discourse.
Jennifer and Jenny,
I thank you both. You have done a service to written discourse.
Jennifer -
I googled it. Yours was much more homey.
Jennifer -
I googled it. Yours was much more homey.
All in all, Jennifer and Jenny make a good team. It's elementary!
All in all, Jennifer and Jenny make a good team. It's elementary!
I still say Bernie Kerik's replacement will be either Dog: the Bounty Hunter fer the Red Staters, or John Walsh, of America's Most Wanted. Less scary, but maybe wider appeal.
Another poster mentioned The Rock, who'd be popular, but too ethnic for the Bushie Crew. Besides, what about that movie career?
I still say Bernie Kerik's replacement will be either Dog: the Bounty Hunter fer the Red Staters, or John Walsh, of America's Most Wanted. Less scary, but maybe wider appeal.
Another poster mentioned The Rock, who'd be popular, but too ethnic for the Bushie Crew. Besides, what about that movie career?
What about John Edward? Wouldn't his gift come in really handy in such a position?
What about John Edward? Wouldn't his gift come in really handy in such a position?
GWPDA -
What a guy! You gave me all that detailed info in spite of the fact that you got no kickbacks out of us, and were deeply hurt, to boot. I appreciate it. We chose Sun West, by the way. Mr. Kate said info on them looked very good, and the fact that their main branch is fairly close to us was another factor. Also, we didn't need a sponsor, Maricopa County residency was enough to get us into the club. But if you're peddling any other companies (besides Mentholatum) let us know in advance wouldja? Sheesh. 
BTW, what food group does Vicks fall into?
Glad you found the right stuff. Tuck yourself in, and don't answer any knocks from transient koalas. They're foreign, you know, and could be carrying foreign flu germs.
Also: have you ever been to the Wildlife World Zoo? After we moved here, having no relatives anywhere nearby and knowing not a soul, we spent an Easter Sunday there. I had great fun hand-feeding a giraffe. A wonderful experience I'll never forget. They have such amazing tongues, which they can shape into ladle-like form to scoop as much food as possible.
GWPDA -
What a guy! You gave me all that detailed info in spite of the fact that you got no kickbacks out of us, and were deeply hurt, to boot. I appreciate it. We chose Sun West, by the way. Mr. Kate said info on them looked very good, and the fact that their main branch is fairly close to us was another factor. Also, we didn't need a sponsor, Maricopa County residency was enough to get us into the club. But if you're peddling any other companies (besides Mentholatum) let us know in advance wouldja? Sheesh.
BTW, what food group does Vicks fall into?
Glad you found the right stuff. Tuck yourself in, and don't answer any knocks from transient koalas. They're foreign, you know, and could be carrying foreign flu germs.
Also: have you ever been to the Wildlife World Zoo? After we moved here, having no relatives anywhere nearby and knowing not a soul, we spent an Easter Sunday there. I had great fun hand-feeding a giraffe. A wonderful experience I'll never forget. They have such amazing tongues, which they can shape into ladle-like form to scoop as much food as possible.
Re it's and its:
Thanks for clearing that up.
Re it's and its:
Thanks for clearing that up.
John Edward would be great, if they could control him. Imagine the secrets he could reveal if he ever stopped drinking the Kool-aid and Ron Suskind got ahold of him...
John Edward would be great, if they could control him. Imagine the secrets he could reveal if he ever stopped drinking the Kool-aid and Ron Suskind got ahold of him...
Vicks falls into the ointment without carbs subgroup. As for the Wildlife World Zoo - no, but once once or two of their panthers got loose and terrorised many people I know. And one time in Van Nuys, a puma flung itself across the back yard, in the full view of myself and the Salvation Army pickup guy. There were quail hanging around the front yard this morning too. Wildlife is what you make of it.
AZFCU is the largest CU going now - it used only to be for City of Phoenix employees, which meant every cop and every firefighter were there. I've been a member since 1984, which is surely a record for any banking relationship.
Vicks falls into the ointment without carbs subgroup. As for the Wildlife World Zoo - no, but once once or two of their panthers got loose and terrorised many people I know. And one time in Van Nuys, a puma flung itself across the back yard, in the full view of myself and the Salvation Army pickup guy. There were quail hanging around the front yard this morning too. Wildlife is what you make of it.
AZFCU is the largest CU going now - it used only to be for City of Phoenix employees, which meant every cop and every firefighter were there. I've been a member since 1984, which is surely a record for any banking relationship.
Nah, it wouldn't be that hard to control a psychic - after all, he'd *know* what's in store for him if he fucks up.
Nah, it wouldn't be that hard to control a psychic - after all, he'd *know* what's in store for him if he fucks up.
I thought this would be a good place to remind you:
you are what you are not, and you are not what you are
I thought this would be a good place to remind you:
you are what you are not, and you are not what you are
Well, I guess banking at a place filled with cops and firefighters has a certain secure feel to it.
If any wildlife breaks in to attempt a hold-up, the cops'll know what to do. And when those puma try to leap in front of you in line, the ensuing heart attack will be quickly attended to by a firefighter.
Well, I guess banking at a place filled with cops and firefighters has a certain secure feel to it.
If any wildlife breaks in to attempt a hold-up, the cops'll know what to do. And when those puma try to leap in front of you in line, the ensuing heart attack will be quickly attended to by a firefighter.
Remember, wherever you go... there you are.
Remember, wherever you go... there you are.
nope - I was just there and now I am here.
nope - I was just there and now I am here.
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